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I went through many posts and articles about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and made a list of the suspects,
divided into 1) prime suspects, 2)others, and 3) group/institutions
I know some sound very unlikely but I still mention them because I didn't want to make any prejudgments.
Please let me know about other potential candidates. Happy Birthday Bitcoin!

1)
Adam Back
Charles Bry
David Chaum
Michael Clear
Wei Dai
Hal Finney
Neal J. King
Martti Malmi
Shinichi Mochizuki
John Nash
Tatsuaki Okamoto
Vladimir Oksman
Nick Szabo

2)
Gavin Andresen
Andreas Antonopoulos
Peter Bachman
John Perry Barlow
Doug Barnes
Michel Bauwens
BCNext
Tim Berners-Lee
Jim Bell
Kay Bell
Tamas Blummer
Nicholas Bohm
S. Boxx
Stefan Brands
Eli Brandt
Greg Broiles
Patrick Byrne
Jan Camenisch
Arthur Chandler
Jim Choate
Igor Chudov
Bram Cohen
Nick Collision
Matt Corallo
Geoff Dale
Luke Dashjr
L.Detweiler
Whitfield Diffie
Ray Dillinger
Jamie Dinkelacker
James A. Donald
Dooglus
Barry Downey
Evan Duffield
Vincent Durham
Tony Eng
Dan Fabulich
Niels Ferguson
Paul Ferguson
Amos Fiat
Art Forz
Matthew Franklin
Patri Friedman
Curtis D. Frye
Tony Gallippi
Jeff Garzik
Matthew Gaylor
John Gilmore
David Gordon
James Orlin Grabbe
Ron Gross
Ashish Gulhati
Laszlo Hanyecz
Mike Hearn
Martin Hellman
Michael Hendrix
Eyal Hertzog
Robert A. Hettinga
Eric Hughes
Mike Ingle
David Irvine
Douglas Jackson
Victor K.
Jeff Kane
Mark Karpeles
Sunny King
Steve Klingsporn
Con Kolivas
Dave Krieger
Nick Lambert
Matthew B. Landry
Laurie Law
Charles/Charlie Lee
Vili Lehdonvirta
Hendrik Lenstra
Romana Machado
Michael Marquardt
Yossi Matias
Gregory/Greg Maxwell
Timothy C. May
Jed McCaleb
Stanton McCandlish
James McCarthy
Jim McCoy
Alfred J. Menezes
Perry E. Metzger
Jude Milhon
Max More
David Naccache
Daniel A. Nagy
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto
Moni Naor
Satoshi Obana
Kazuo Ohta
Donald O'Mahony
Jackson Palmer
Torben Pedersen
Michael Peirce
Jean-Marc Piveteau
Naval Ravikant
Ben Reeves
Ron Rivest
Meni Rosenfeld
Nikolay Rozhok
Gary Rowe
Susan Sabett
Mayank Sahu
Steve Schear
Andreas Schildbach
Nils Schneider
Berry Schoenmakers
Adi Shamir
Carol Shaw
Charlie Shrem
Barry Silbert
Jerry Solinas
Markus Stadler
Bill Stewart
Patrick Strateman
Aaron Swartz
Amir Taaki
Yael Tauman
Hitesh Tewari
Will Thomas
Peter Todd
Zhou Tong
Dustin D. Trammell
Patrick P. Tsang
Ross William Ulbricht
Wladimir J. van der Laan
Thomas Vartanian
Roger Ver
Paul Vernon
Sebastiaan von Solms
Erik Voorhees
Michael Weber
Russell E. Whitaker
Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn
Peter Wuille
Moti Yung
Phil Zimmerman
Haibin Zhang

3)
Group of above mention persons and/or others
NSA
Samsung/Toshiba/Nakamichi/Motorola

You forgot niels furguson.

you should make this up as a Poll of the Top Ten so we can vote.....(feel free to choose i've no idea who should be in the top 10)

just saying

Toooo many candidate.
You cant find the right one.

What about if satoshi is all of them? lol :P


i dont know why, but i will never care about who is satoshi, for me is more than enought to enjoy what he give to us, lets contribute not destroy.


not a bad idea ;)

ha, that was a lot longer than expected.

just to mention as usual: there are more potential negatives than positives if SN identity is ever confirmed.

Why chase him when he doesnt want to be found and it has no constructive value?

Cant you put this effort into solving a murder or something? ???

I'll give you an A for the effort OP but he's the guy who invented world's first crypto-currency, you can't find him unless he wants to be found.

...Or none of the above. I wonder what the chances are of satoshi just being a nobody or complete unknown (or unknowns). Personally I hope he never gets outed because the mystique just makes bitcoin a little bit more mysterious.

If you are wondering who Satoshi is, you should read this:

Finding Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=883213.0)

You forgot one..  Satoshi Nakamoto (http://www.coindesk.com/bticoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-found-california/) himself ;)

Very true my friend. The whole thing reminds me of someone else, well known..can't remember his name for the life of me though..It does give Bitcoin's story a certain sense of wonder.

Nope, he is on the list:


His first name is Dorian, middle name is Satoshi.

Personally I reckon it's likely a few people who developed the idea and some of them will likely be on the list.


I think we can really discredit some of these people especially this guy. Would he really go be so silly as to use his actual name? That being said, I am the real Beyonce.

Thanks for making this list! I don't really think it will matter in the end who originated the idea, but its still fun to guess :)

I'm pretty sure that James McCarthy could be removed from the list.

What if we are all bitcoins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgAmNzxek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgAmNzxek)

God or an unknown

I think you mean Niels Ferguson. He's on the list.

Updated List
added (red color): Barr, Kumagai, Lerner, Meier

1) prime suspects
2) others
3) group/institutions

1)
Adam Back
Charles Bry
David Chaum
Michael Clear
Wei Dai
Hal Finney
Neal J. King
Martti Malmi
Shinichi Mochizuki
John Nash
Tatsuaki Okamoto
Vladimir Oksman
Nick Szabo

2)
Gavin Andresen
Andreas Antonopoulos
Peter Bachman
John Perry Barlow
Doug Barnes
Ashley Barr
Michel Bauwens
BCNext
Tim Berners-Lee
Jim Bell
Kay Bell
Tamas Blummer
Nicholas Bohm
S. Boxx
Stefan Brands
Eli Brandt
Greg Broiles
Patrick Byrne
Jan Camenisch
Arthur Chandler
Jim Choate
Igor Chudov
Bram Cohen
Nick Collision
Matt Corallo
Geoff Dale
Luke Dashjr
L.Detweiler
Whitfield Diffie
Ray Dillinger
Jamie Dinkelacker
James A. Donald
Dooglus
Barry Downey
Evan Duffield
Vincent Durham
Tony Eng
Dan Fabulich
Niels Ferguson
Paul Ferguson
Amos Fiat
Art Forz
Matthew Franklin
Patri Friedman
Curtis D. Frye
Tony Gallippi
Jeff Garzik
Matthew Gaylor
John Gilmore
David Gordon
James Orlin Grabbe
Ron Gross
Ashish Gulhati
Laszlo Hanyecz
Mike Hearn
Martin Hellman
Michael Hendrix
Eyal Hertzog
Robert A. Hettinga
Eric Hughes
Mike Ingle
David Irvine
Douglas Jackson
Victor K.
Jeff Kane
Mark Karpeles
Sunny King
Steve Klingsporn
Con Kolivas
Dave Krieger
Masatoshi Kumagai
Nick Lambert
Matthew B. Landry
Laurie Law
Charles/Charlie Lee
Vili Lehdonvirta
Hendrik Lenstra
Sergio Lerner
Romana Machado
Michael Marquardt
Yossi Matias
Gregory/Greg Maxwell
Timothy C. May
Jed McCaleb
Stanton McCandlish
James McCarthy
Jim McCoy
Patrick Meier
Alfred J. Menezes
Perry E. Metzger
Jude Milhon
Max More
David Naccache
Daniel A. Nagy
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto
Moni Naor
Satoshi Obana
Kazuo Ohta
Donald O'Mahony
Jackson Palmer
Torben Pedersen
Michael Peirce
Jean-Marc Piveteau
Naval Ravikant
Ben Reeves
Ron Rivest
Meni Rosenfeld
Nikolay Rozhok
Gary Rowe
Susan Sabett
Mayank Sahu
Steve Schear
Andreas Schildbach
Nils Schneider
Berry Schoenmakers
Adi Shamir
Carol Shaw
Charlie Shrem
Barry Silbert
Jerry Solinas
Markus Stadler
Bill Stewart
Patrick Strateman
Aaron Swartz
Amir Taaki
Yael Tauman
Hitesh Tewari
Will Thomas
Peter Todd
Zhou Tong
Dustin D. Trammell
Patrick P. Tsang
Ross William Ulbricht
Wladimir J. van der Laan
Thomas Vartanian
Roger Ver
Paul Vernon
Sebastiaan von Solms
Erik Voorhees
Michael Weber
Russell E. Whitaker
Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn
Peter Wuille
Moti Yung
Phil Zimmerman
Haibin Zhang

3)
Group of above mention persons and/or others
NSA
Samsung/Toshiba/Nakamichi/Motorola

you forgot to put elvis.

http://www.dailydot.com/technology/history-misidentifying-satoshi-nakamoto/

"Chris Belzingam" (I actually know the real name of this guy as he's part of our meetup group but I won't put it here  8))

I know, I know. I also didn't include God, everyone, ....


Well, yeah, he sounds pretty legit. Anyway, why not let us know the real name of this comedian?

How ironic that the real Satoshi is only in the second list :)

Thanks, you've really narrowed it down for us. I think a top 10 is order of likleyhood would be better. My number one would be Nick Szabo.

If Bitcoin was created by Fiat, we wouldn't have all these libertarians.

some names are part of the group that created it ;)

A lot of names and a lot of possibility. But no certainty. One thing with Bitcoin is that nothing is certain, Not the price, not even the creator. ;)

NSA/CIA  wouldn't surprise me ;D

Eggs Ackley.  Satoshi did something nearly impossible; he spearheaded a major development, worked with people over an extended period of time, managed to do it without leaving a single shred of evidence linking to the government's name for him, and GOT AWAY WITH IT.  "Satoshi Nakamoto" is the single hottest nym in the world in terms of making trouble for anyone who can ever be proven to have been the guy who used it.

Why the hell would he ever use the single hottest nym in the world again?  It would just give people a chance to catch him.

I say again.  We are all little fish swimming around in an aquarium, constantly watched.  But Satoshi knew the whole system, worked around it, and  HE GOT AWAY WITH IT.  Getting associated with that nym now would blow the whole effort he put into keeping it a secret, and if you understand how much surveillance we're under you know that was a HELL of an effort to do.

Reminder: my 2011 guess is Hettinga based on language analysis of known forum posts (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49751.0)

Note that Hettinga knows Chaum so it is possible he used Chaum's code.

Interesting, I hadn't heard that before. Anyone have a photo of Hettinga or other real-world info? (Nothing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hettinga) My own favorite has been Nick Szabo, with the caveat that "Nick Szabo" itself seems to be a pseudonym as he seems to have no real-life presence and based on a comment of his in the early 90's that imply it was a pseudonym. So I wouldn't be surprised if Satoshi was Nick who was someone like Hettinga.

Half of me hopes we never figure it out. The other half wants answers...

Updated List
added: red color
I put Robert A. Hettinga and Jim McCoy to the first group

1) prime suspects
2) others
3) group/institutions

1)
Adam Back
Charles Bry
David Chaum
Michael Clear
Wei Dai
Hal Finney
Robert A. Hettinga
Neal J. King
Martti Malmi
Jim McCoy
Shinichi Mochizuki
John Nash
Tatsuaki Okamoto
Vladimir Oksman
Nick Szabo

2)
Gavin Andresen
Andreas Antonopoulos
Peter Bachman
John Perry Barlow
Doug Barnes
Ashley Barr
Michel Bauwens
BCNext
Tim Berners-Lee
Jim Bell
Kay Bell
Tamas Blummer
Nicholas Bohm
S. Boxx
Stefan Brands
Eli Brandt
Greg Broiles
Patrick Byrne
Jan Camenisch
Arthur Chandler
Jim Choate
Igor Chudov
Bram Cohen
Nick Collision
Matt Corallo
Geoff Dale
Luke Dashjr
L.Detweiler
Whitfield Diffie
Ray Dillinger
Jamie Dinkelacker
James A. Donald
Dooglus
Barry Downey
Andrew Dubinsky
Evan Duffield
Vincent Durham
Tony Eng
Dan Fabulich
Niels Ferguson
Paul Ferguson
Amos Fiat
Art Forz
Matthew Franklin
Patri Friedman
Curtis D. Frye
Tony Gallippi
Jeff Garzik
Matthew Gaylor
John Gilmore
Ian Goldberg
Oded Goldreich
David Gordon
James Orlin Grabbe
Ian Grigg
Ron Gross
Ashish Gulhati
Timo Hanke
Laszlo Hanyecz
Mike Hearn
Martin Hellman
Michael Hendrix
Eyal Hertzog
Eric Hughes
Mike Ingle
David Irvine
Joichi Ito
Douglas Jackson
Victor K.
Jeff Kane
Mark Karpeles
Sunny King
Steve Klingsporn
Paul Kocher
Con Kolivas
Andrew Krieger
Dave Krieger
Masatoshi Kumagai
Ryan Lackey
Nick Lambert
Matthew B. Landry
Ben Laurie
Laurie Law
Charles/Charlie Lee
Vili Lehdonvirta
Hendrik Lenstra
Sergio Lerner
Li Xianglin/David X. Li
Romana Machado
Dahlia Malkhi
Michael Marquardt
Yossi Matias
Gregory/Greg Maxwell
Timothy C. May
Jed McCaleb
Stanton McCandlish
James McCarthy
Patrick Meier
Alfred J. Menezes
Perry E. Metzger
Jude Milhon
Ulf Moeller
Max More
David Naccache
Daniel A. Nagy
Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto
Moni Naor
Satoshi Obana
Kazuo Ohta
Donald O'Mahony
Jackson Palmer
Torben Pedersen
Michael Peirce
Jean-Marc Piveteau
Naval Ravikant
Ben Reeves
Michael Reiter
Ron Rivest
Meni Rosenfeld
Nikolay Rozhok
Gary Rowe
Susan Sabett
Mayank Sahu
Len Sassaman
Steve Schear
Andreas Schildbach
Nils Schneider
Berry Schoenmakers
Adi Shamir
Carol Shaw
Adam Shostack
Charlie Shrem
Barry Silbert
Jerry Solinas
Markus Stadler
Bill Stewart
Patrick Strateman
Bjarne Stroustrup
Aaron Swartz
Amir Taaki
Yael Tauman
Hitesh Tewari
Will Thomas
Peter Todd
Zhou Tong
Dustin D. Trammell
Patrick P. Tsang
Ross William Ulbricht
Wladimir J. van der Laan
Variety Jones/cimon
Thomas Vartanian
Roger Ver
Paul Vernon
Sebastiaan von Solms
Erik Voorhees
Michael Weber
Russell E. Whitaker
Zooko Wilcox-O’Hearn
Peter Wuille
Moti Yung
Phil Zimmerman
Haibin Zhang

3)
Group of above mention persons and/or others
NSA
Samsung/Toshiba/Nakamichi/Motorola

Can I ask why Variety Jones is on the list?
He was a cannabis seeds seller on Silk Road, and apparently Ross Ulbright's mentor.

How did speculate that he could be Satoshi?

Out of list 1 and 2. I only know three people.

1. Nick Szabo
2. Gavin Andresen
3. Tim Berners-Lee

And I dont think any of them is Satoshi Nakamoto.

Wait what about that article that says he was found in California?  Is that just an April fools joke or something?  Or is it that we like to have our conspiracy theories regardless of the truth :)

I don't see Al Gore mentioned?

:D

I don't believe it either. There are many other who sound quite ridiculous.
I just put anyone on the list who got mentioned by someone in some forum and as long as it was not meant to be a joke.
Someone might have thought that because of his brilliancy and mystery, he also qualifies for Satoshi.


He isn't SN. Proof: he would have named it Ecocoin.


Well, for some, Newsweek is indeed a long lasting joke

I like the idea of David Irvine being Satoshi. Maidsafe is an older project than Bitcoin, therefore there is a solid possibility there that something spawned Bitcoin while developing Maidsafe.

oh god please no...  i would also place a very small % chance on this being possible.  If it was what a way to alienate the community from bitcoin overnight.  Keep it quiet if so mark.

I've done it, I've cracked the case, Balaji Srinivasan has the same amount of syllables as Satoshi Nakamoto.

I have read the list of the Candidates for Satoshi Nakamoto. Unfortunately non of them is Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto is not any one in the Cyberpunks or in the Bitcoin Community. He is not a Japanese man but he is British Asian.

You Must Know Who is Real Satoshi Nakamoto.

People think no body knows who is real Satoshi Nakamoto, that is not correct. Ted Nelson think Shinichi Mochizuki is Satoshi Nakamoto but he is wrong. Leah M. Goodman thought Dorian Prentice Nakamoto is the Inventor of Bitcoin but she also was wrong. There are more than 24 candidates over the Internet, people speculating one of them could be Satoshi Nakamoto the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin. There are so much speculation and conspiracy theories all around Bitcoin invention and about Satoshi Nakamoto. I have spent two years and £160,000 Pound to find Satoshi Nakamoto. My main interest is to write the true History of Bitcoin but without discovering the real Satoshi Nakamoto the inventor of Bitcoin my book 'History of Bitcoin' will not be completed. This is why I have spent lots of money to discover this mysterious man Satoshi Nakamoto. Today I have come to the the Bitcoin forum to ask question to some prominent Bitcoin forum people, why they have failed to discover the real Satoshi Nakamoto? My investigation suggesting me that top Bitcoin leaders who are in the Bitcoin Foundation know who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? Why they are scared of Satoshi Nakamoto the man who invented the Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology? There is some thing secret in connection to their affiliation to the Bitcoin. I have uncovered every things and I am going to publish it in the Bitcoin Talk Forum first, so the people who are the members of the Bitcoin Talk Forum will know first the mystery and the secret of Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin is not invented by any one who is a Cyberpunks or any one who is in the Bitcoin community, trading Bitcoin and making huge sums of money out of Bitcoin. But they have forgotten the inventor of Bitcoin who spent 14 years of time to research on digital currency. Finally when he invented Bitcoin in May 2007 and the Hackers from all around the world group together and hijacked his Bitcoin Project with dreadful piracy attack.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a Macro Economist, a mathematician, a digital scientist and social engineer. You all hackers have victimised him very badly and continuously attacking him for your own safety, thinking the world will not know your dreadful piracy. Yes, I have discovered that it is Dread Pirates Roberts a group of three those who have dreadfully attacked Satoshi Nakamoto and hijacked his Bitcoin Project. Satoshi Nakamoto is not a Japanese man but he is a British Commonwealth Citizen. A South Asian British Digital Scientist. Who invented Bitcoin in May 2007 in Croydon South London. You hackers have done a serious inhuman barbaric act to Satoshi Nakamoto. He is a man who has one Mission. Helping mankind but you Computer Hackers now Bitcoin Community leaders have done unforgivable crime against Satoshi Nakamoto but as he is a humble man, he has forgiven you all because he thinks the heaven permitted you to act such way that was a dreadful acts of not less wrong but serious wrong. I have interviewed him and met him many time. How he is suffering and living a miserable  life you can not imagine; but you people have made millions and billions out of his invention Bitcoin and you are now harassing him Psychologically and attacking him bio-chemically to disable him. This type of wicked acts of barbarism in this modern world is unthinkable. You have done a serious wrong things to a great scientist. You do not need to be afraid of judgement. He is not going to take you to court of justice. Andreas Anthonopaulos showed off his charitable kind heart by collecting Bitcoin donation for Dorian Nakamoto who has suffered from Media contact, but how about the inventor of Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto? What charitable duty do you have to him? Satoshi Nakamoto said, Good wishes to all the hackers who involved themselves as developers to take the Bitcoin project around the world. Soon he will reward and give Certificate of Accreditation according their Credentials; who has assisted him by creating Bitcoin Market and doing Bitcoin Evangelistic work. I will unmask the Real Satoshi Nakamoto soon. Also I will unmask the Dread Pirate Roberts who first dreafully attacked Satoshi Nakamoto to hijack his Bitcoin Project. Satoshi Nakamoto has tried many times to communicate to the Bitcoin Community leaders but you self styled Bitcoin Bandits have no human heart. But Satoshi Nakamoto said, they are the products of the old world rotten society. They are just greedy to make money by means any how doing organised crimes. He also said, that these computer hackers and jackers is doing a great jobs for him. Thinking they are making money for their greedy interest but indeed they are working for his Bitcoin Project as Robots. Satoshi Nakamoto has announced the Bitcoin Round Table Meeting. He want to invite 24 developers and Computer Hackers who have hijacked his Bitcoin Project. He want to reveal a real mysterious matter about the Bitcoin Invention Story. I will write the whole story here in another post.

Written - Miss Roselyn Hamilton
Economist and Writer.
Reporter of Bitcoin Telecast.

Whatever...

I still think it is Dorian.

One of my favourite candidates has always ben Jim McCoy. He has everything that it takes to be him. Here is him talking about a primitive decentralized cryptocurrency in year 2000


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r76WIdqjw4

David Irvine is also a good candidate, he is pretty much a genius after i've spend some time learning about the Maidsafe project and the project is older than Bitcoin.

Of course Nick is always a potential candidate as well..

I have showed the list of Potential Candidates for Satoshi Nakamoto to the Real Satoshi Nakamoto. He said, "who has written this list? Satoshi Nakamoto said, "he will keep 24 on the list and invite all of them to the Bitcoin Round Table Meeting in London. He will request every one to prove for them selves if any one want to prove that he is myself, Satoshi Nakamoto. If every one want to impersonate him to take the credit as he is the Inventor of Bitcoin then he will ask him to write message with his PGP but if 24 of them do sign with their PGP that mean all 24 people are Satoshi Nakamoto. But Satoshi Nakamoto said, He will prove that all of them are impostor of him with his Bitcoin Tail. Then he said, " They, the DPRs has shattered my life, I wish I did not invent the Bitcoin." Now why the real Satoshi Nakamoto regreted for his own invention Bitcoin? The hackers the Dread Pirates Roberts has destroyed Satoshi Nakamoto's usual life.
- By Roselyn Hamilton

There have been several attempts to verify the identity but all we have are theories ranging from engineers, researchers and political figures to possibly a group of people. Revealing his identity wouldn't give us anything, but he'd be in danger. Politicians, maybe even some criminals would be interested in him. Additionally, it's his choice, not ours, whether we know him or not.

Why not stop this useless chase of someone who has done so much for us, and for the world, and who obviously prefers to stay anonymous.

Bitcoin is about the idea, not the inventor. Let's put all this energy in further spreading the idea instead.

Excuse me Mr. Moderator. You have put a warning on my account that I am Roselyn is a Newbie but could be an impostor as I have writen a letter to the Veteran Theymos. You are utterly wrong I am very new to the Bitcoin Forum but I am not an impostor of Satoshi Nakamoto Himself. My question is, Why you all have failed to find Satoshi Nakamoto the inventor of Bitcoin?

Because we respect his wish to stay anonymous. And honestly, I think it's for the better. Instead of focusing on the inventor of Bitcoin, let's focus on his idea, and help it spread and go mainstream.

You Must Know Who is Real Satoshi Nakamoto.

People think no body knows who is real Satoshi Nakamoto, that is not correct. Ted Nelson think Shinichi Mochizuki is Satoshi Nakamoto but he is wrong. Leah M. Goodman thought Dorian Prentice Nakamoto is the Inventor of Bitcoin but she also was wrong. There are more than 24 candidates over the Internet, people speculating one of them could be Satoshi Nakamoto the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin. There are so much speculation and conspiracy theories all around Bitcoin invention and about Satoshi Nakamoto. I have spent two years and £160,000 Pound to find Satoshi Nakamoto. My main interest is to write the true History of Bitcoin but without discovering the real Satoshi Nakamoto the inventor of Bitcoin my book 'History of Bitcoin' will not be completed. This is why I have spent lots of money to discover this mysterious man Satoshi Nakamoto. Today I have come to the the Bitcoin forum to ask question to some prominent Bitcoin forum people, why they have failed to discover the real Satoshi Nakamoto? My investigation suggesting me that top Bitcoin leaders who are in the Bitcoin Foundation know who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto? Why they are scared of Satoshi Nakamoto the man who invented the Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology? There is some thing secret in connection to their affiliation to the Bitcoin. I have uncovered every things and I am going to publish it in the Bitcoin Talk Forum first, so the people who are the members of the Bitcoin Talk Forum will know first the mystery and the secret of Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin is not invented by any one who is a Cyberpunks or any one who is in the Bitcoin community, trading Bitcoin and making huge sums of money out of Bitcoin. But they have forgotten the inventor of Bitcoin who spent 14 years of time to research on digital currency. Finally when he invented Bitcoin in May 2007 and the Hackers from all around the world group together and hijacked his Bitcoin Project with dreadful piracy attack.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a Macro Economist, a mathematician, a digital scientist and social engineer. You all hackers have victimised him very badly and continuously attacking him for your own safety, thinking the world will not know your dreadful piracy. Yes, I have discovered that it is Dread Pirates Roberts a group of three those who have dreadfully attacked Satoshi Nakamoto and hijacked his Bitcoin Project. Satoshi Nakamoto is not a Japanese man but he is a British Commonwealth Citizen. A South Asian British Digital Scientist. Who invented Bitcoin in May 2007 in Croydon South London. You hackers have done a serious inhuman barbaric act to Satoshi Nakamoto. He is a man who has one Mission. Helping mankind but you Computer Hackers now Bitcoin Community leaders have done unforgivable crime against Satoshi Nakamoto but as he is a humble man, he has forgiven you all because he thinks the heaven permitted you to act such way that was a dreadful acts of not less wrong but serious wrong. I have interviewed him and met him many time. How he is suffering and living a miserable  life you can not imagine; but you people have made millions and billions out of his invention Bitcoin and you are now harassing him Psychologically and attacking him bio-chemically to disable him. This type of wicked acts of barbarism in this modern world is unthinkable. You have done a serious wrong things to a great scientist. You do not need to be afraid of judgement. He is not going to take you to court of justice. Andreas Anthonopaulos showed off his charitable kind heart by collecting Bitcoin donation for Dorian Nakamoto who has suffered from Media contact, but how about the inventor of Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto? What charitable duty do you have to him? Satoshi Nakamoto said, Good wishes to all the hackers who involved themselves as developers to take the Bitcoin project around the world. Soon he will reward and give Certificate of Accreditation according their Credentials; who has assisted him by creating Bitcoin Market and doing Bitcoin Evangelistic work. I will unmask the Real Satoshi Nakamoto soon. Also I will unmask the Dread Pirate Roberts who first dreafully attacked Satoshi Nakamoto to hijack his Bitcoin Project. Satoshi Nakamoto has tried many times to communicate to the Bitcoin Community leaders but you self styled Bitcoin Bandits have no human heart. But Satoshi Nakamoto said, they are the products of the old world rotten society. They are just greedy to make money by means any how doing organised crimes. He also said, that these computer hackers and jackers is doing a great jobs for him. Thinking they are making money for their greedy interest but indeed they are working for his Bitcoin Project as Robots. Satoshi Nakamoto has announced the Bitcoin Round Table Meeting. He want to invite 24 developers and Computer Hackers who have hijacked his Bitcoin Project. He want to reveal a real mysterious matter about the Bitcoin Invention Story. I will write the whole story here in another post.

Written By Miss Roselyn Hamilton
Economist and Writer.
Reporter of Bitcoin Telecast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqJbQ6EDcCw

None of this Three are real Sartoshi Nakamoto. THe Real Satoshi Nakamoto is on the Bitcoin Telecast. Listen the Voice of Satoshi in the Youtube.

Why? Who Satoshi Nakamoto is, is completely irrelevant for Bitcoin.

Seriously, would you not rather spend that time and energy on the idea itself, instead of its inventor?

A very likely guess. His ideas of MojoNation include a lot of what we can see with Bitcoin.


I agree, the idea is more important than the creator itself. However, people will always want to know who did it, and it's also not completely irrelevant. Satoshi holds ~1 million Bitcoins and that gives him a lot of power about the future of Bitcoin. There's a risk if one man (or group) has the potential to destroy his own creation, or can control a major global currency (in case Bitcoin goes to the moon).


No, I do not know, that's why I wrote "potential candidates" in the thread's headline


So, you're a writer, but your post is full of writing mistakes and you even don't know that a big wall of text is just horrible to read. Looks like a solid career choice.

No one is attacking or insulting Satoshi. He gets glorified by most of the people and is praised as a genius. People respect his invention very much. Banks, paypal, credit card companies and governments probably not so much.

Why don't you just tell us who you think it is instead of writing the same craziness over and over again? Honestly, you sound completely psycho.

Usually, I appreciate every contribution to this thread. Some made interesting comments, others came up with funny jokes, but your post contributes nothing but useless bullshit. It's not even original. When compiling this list, I read many posts like yours. Unproven claims, conspiracy sounding manifestos and sensationalists announcements without any follow-up. It gets boring and annoying.

Ok, I watched the first minute of your telecast. Now, I'm sure you are actually a comedian. I just don't get the funniness.

Dooglus?  :D

I agree with the fact knowing who Satoshi is not really important and could be used against us, since if the inventor has a certain past or political views the whole thing would be attacked on that level. Its better to have an anonymous figure.

As someone who actually corresponded with Satoshi, I'm probably one of the people you suspect of knowing the True Identity behind the "Satoshi" nym.  I have a suspicion as to the true identity, but that's all. That said, I for one have not failed to discover who Satoshi is.  I have succeeded in avoiding such discovery.  The distinction is important.  Satoshi himself (or herself, or themselves) indicated to us a desire for anonymity.  I indicate to you a desire to honor the wishes of someone whose every interaction with us was both respectful and productive.

As to the parasites, the criminals, the people of dishonorable intent?  Every ecosystem has parasites.  Croesus invented government-issued money.  One cannot blame him for every crime committed for its sake or by its use.  Similarly one cannot blame Satoshi for the same old crooks learning to use his invention. 

I vote for nick szabo, most of names I don't even know why they are in the list. But I think it's even more probable he is not in this list.

Are any proof under these claims?

Sure, but difference would it make if we find out his real name is Jonathan Dough, or Neil O'Connor, or Salomon Fitzgerald?

Not the name itself is relevant but the person behind that name and what they stand for. I would think different of Bitcoin if it is created by some government organization, or a multi-national corporation, or Nick Szabo or whomever.
I like to know the agenda of the person who might one day own 5% of a major global currency.
Humans are curious by nature, so the search for the real person behind Satoshi will anyway never end.

Hello

Hunt for Satoshi Nakamoto is Over !
 
I am please to see some people here earnestly trying to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Well your search of Satoshi Nakamoto is over. I am the Spoke person of Satoshi Nakamoto the inventor of Bitcoin.
I am here to satisfy every ones' inquiring about the mystery related to Bitcoin invention and about the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I am going to reveal the whole truth about Bitcoin and about Satoshi Nakamoto in gradual steps.
 
Step One:

Satoshi Nakamoto is not a Japanese man. Satoshi Nakamoto is his Robotic Pseudonym. He is a single person. He is a Macro Economist, Digital Scientist, Mathematician and Social Engineer. He is a British Asian man. He is not any one in the Bitcoin Community. He is not any one in the Cyberpunks group either. He is not an Anarchist. He is neither a  Monarchist. He is a Sorachist. He is a Druid. He is a visionary with one mission. His mission is 'Justifiable New Economic System.'

Those who want to know Satoshi Nakamoto, can ask me any question about Bitcoin Technology and about Satoshi Nakamoto. I will answer all your questions.

Step Two:

Satoshi Nakamoto is the inventor of Bitcoin. He invented the Bitcoin in may 2007 after 14 years of constant research on Digital Electronic Currency. He invented Bitcoin from his home in Croydon, South London. He wanted to launch the Bitcoin in July 2007 but he could not launch it in July 2007 because of a 'mysterious phenomenon.'

What is this 'mysterious Phenomenon' in the early stage of Bitcoin is a major factor that public has no knowledge. Only Six or Seven people in the Bitcoin community is aware of it. This mysterious phenomenon has lead Satoshi Nakamoto to create a Bitcoin Tail which enabled Satoshi Nakamoto to remain anonymous.  Satoshi Nakamoto is not illusive but the Bitcoin Community leaders deliberately made him illusive. Satoshi Nakamoto is on the Twitter and many people have read his tweets. He is visible but unseen. Satoshi Nakamoto is busy withe his next projects. He has no personal interest in Bitcoin. He invented Bitcoin for his charity Orphans Care International. Satoshi Nakamoto is a Charity worker. He is watching the Bitcoin movement daily and getting amazed to see the progress. But he has a concern that most the Bitcoin community leaders are behaving like Gremlins. Every one is busy to make money out of his Bitcoin Project while he is suffering gravely from the interference of the Organized Criminals. Satoshi Nakamoto is very upset about his Bitcoin Project. He is regretting, saying, “I wish I did not invent Bitcoin." Why Satoshi Nakamoto is regretting for his own invention? The answer is the greedy Aliens have hijacked the Bitcoin Project from him.  



-Miss Roselyn Hamilton
 Spoke Person of Satoshi Nakamoto
 Staff Reporter
 Bitcoin Telecast.

Well, mrs spokesperson of Satoshi Nakamoto, can you please ask Satoshi to instruct the current core devs to get some fucking consensus already about the whole block size debate, pick one solution (at the flip of a coin, if necessary) and stick to that, instead of risking Bitcoin to be split into 2 altcoins?

Personally I'd say: increase max block size to 2Mb in the near future, and increase the limit with 50% every 52596 blocks (≈about 1 year). But any of the proposed solutions currently being discussed is WAY better than ongoing debate and no solution at all.

I have taken notes from your comments and I will pass it to Dr. Satoshi Nakamoto. He will reply to you. As you already know that Satoshi Nakamoto is no longer in charge of Bitcoin Project but he will do some thing about your concern.

-Roselyn Hamilton

I agree. This ongoing discussion and risk of having 2 alt coins is dangerous for the future of Bitcoin. 2mb sounds like a reasonable decision.

Unfortunately, according to mrs spokesperson, Satoshi Nakamoto might be more concerned about the interference of the Organized Criminals, Gremlins and the greedy hijacking Aliens. Oh, and don't forget about the mysterious Phenomenon.


Can you please tell his real life name? Thanks

Dear @Roselyn,

I didnt know if this will happend or not, but i would like to tell one thing to Mr. sn, thank you man, nobody know what will happend with bitcoin, as you already know humans are unpredictable, but i hope that all steps that are comming from you, help us to bring us a great future, im pretty sure that was your first intention, if you are a human charity as @Roselyn sayd, dont stop man, just dont stop, keep going on, demons are everywhere, yes?

also @Roselyn, i like your name :)

@Roselyn

SN is definitely an economist. Or at least very educated.
As an economist he knows that if there's money to make, there will be greed.
The world isn't black and white. And greed isn't necessarily bad. Greed creates innovation and thrives adaption.
It's even not true that there's just greed. You find a lot of idealists in the Bitcoin community.

The inventor of a pseudoanonymous digital currency also knows that this will be used for criminal activities.
Just look at the history of alternative currencies (e.g. e-gold). We can be sure SN knows about all of the predecessors and similar projects.

When you claim SN didn't expect this or is disappointed in Bitcoin's development you make him look stupid and naive. Actually, you're insulting him.
We can assume SN isn't that dumb and knows very well about the disadvantages and risk that come with something like Bitcoin. As long as the advantages are bigger, and I believe they are, this isn't even a problem. And I believe SN thinks so, too.

Conclusion: you're a liar and attention whore, and a poor spoke person and writer because you still make too many mistakes.

I never understood why do people care who Satoshi really was. I mean, I can see that if you are a government agency and you want to catch a poor guy and make him suffer, but for us, the Bitcoiners really shouldn't matter that much.

I mean I am happy that he gave us this amazing technology for free, now I am for that that we just make a man be.

Just one question, could Satoshi Nakamoto please sign a message that you are his spokesperson with his PGP key?
I'll donate 10 BTC to any "decent" nonprofit organization of your/his choice if he does.
Rules for decent organizations would resemble the rules for Bitcoin100 candidates.
This is a standing offer.

Well, as long as you don't take that offer, I'll leave some negative trust for you.

Good idea. I also did that.
Of course, she won't do that because she can't. Instead, she started another thread with her nonsense. The quality of this forum is too often between madness and entertainment.

time for an update to the OP?

Read Charlie Shrem as Charlie Sheen when I was scrolling down and thought what the hell is going on!
What are the chances all this talk about who he/she is ,will actually end up outing him/her in the end.
It will become such a side show that they have to step forward to save the integrity of bitcoin in the public eye.

Feels like something is coming down the pipe on this topic.

jim.com was registered in February of 1995, two years before internet usage became widely popular and known.

James A. Donald = James A. Bowery = Satoshi Nakamoto?

These screenshots are of google cache:

https://postimg.cc/YGGPWHjK

https://postimg.cc/SJMypBGP


About two days before Thanksgiving, 2018, Jim Bowery had the now-cached blurb about his having

created the world's first  "fast...cryptocurrency ... high frequency ...arbitrage" etc. (read the exact quote in the two google caches) IN his

LinkedIn address.  Then he suddenly removed his quote, the final comment in his bio.  Assuming he is Nakamoto--  perhaps his noticing my

unmasked hits on jim.com and echeque.com, he may have quickly

taken down his open and deserved proudness at having invented Bitcoin.  Lucky I got the google cache shots in time.


Bill Gates said Ray Ozzie (who's been on the cover of Wired and was the number 4 or 5 guy in early Microsoft, their CTO, Chief Technology

Officer) was one of the three best coders in the world.  Ozzie himself has said James Bowery is the best coder he knows, better than himself.

The two were once best friends.


Nick Szabo and Steve Sailer follow Bowery on twitter: @jabowery

Bowery's sociological and technical writings generally mirror both James. A Donald's and Satoshi Nakamoto's.  Surf all around jim.com and read

his crypto and BTC comments over the years.  James A. Donald (same first name and middle initial as 1995-registered jim.com James A.

Bowery) was the first to respond to Nakamoto's January 3rd, 2009 Cypherpunks post.  Wasn't he having a point counter-point edifying

discussion with himself for the kind edification of the specific reading crowd?


Jim Bowery was profoundly involved in BTC and related peer to peer micro-currency solutions from November 2008 through January 2009

and years beyond.  On the this tenth year anniversary (this month technically, see Nov. 2008, not firstly January 2009):

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/code/  ... Jim Bowery is posting, in a pleasingly sentimental and reflective mood, a simple white type on

black background statement about Bitcoin.


C++ coders who can recognize specific other coders' works (I'm told this can be done) should closely compare Satoshi Nakamoto's and Jim

Bowery's coding styles.


James A. Donald clearly seems to be a fictitious character; he has only cat's paw internet footprints.  He also coded "Kong", an encrypted

system. (Kong's code should also be compared to Satoshi Nakamoto's).

Jim Bowery created the world's first 3D game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasim


Jim Bowery is extraordinarily interested in data compression, which I suppose might solve (as the lightning network may) some elements

of Bitcoin's probs. He has offered a prize:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutter_Prize

Data compression will also assist AI, another development Bowery often expounds on.


Video of James Bowery, 64 year old Satoshi Nakamoto candidate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563xZAV6C-M&t=6690s google cache

If Jim Bowery is Satoshi Nakamoto, he deserves recognition during his lifetime for his achievement.  In a way, his recently scrubbed LinkedIn

clues on google cache seem to glaringly yet subtly request same.  

One cannot have certitude.  Satoshi designed it all for his plausible deniability.

Thanks.  I enjoyed reading about Niels Ferguson who is on list two at the start of this thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Ferguson

Also, liked reading about his former professional associate, Bruce Schneier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier

Yet I don't have any fount of personal knowledge of Ferguson's and Schneier's activities during Nov. through Jan. of 2008/2009 and beyond

from which to speak.


In the case of Jim Bowery, I have direct personal knowledge from Bitcoin conversations and interactions with Jim during that period--

November 2008 through January 2009 and long beyond.  

Thus my logical friendly, admiring and well-wishing suspicions he is the historic anonymous figure Satoshi Nakamoto.

Ten Years After.  Got me thinking about it all.

You forgot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons and by extension, this --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer. See one of my most recent posts to get up to speed.

we will never know the name really Satoshi therefore I think that it is necessary to put up with it

UsernameBitcoin said:

"I went through many posts and articles about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and made a list of the suspects,
divided into 1) prime suspects, 2)others, and 3) group/institutions
I know some sound very unlikely but I still mention them because I didn't want to make any prejudgments.
Please let me know about other potential candidates. Happy Birthday Bitcoin!

1)
Adam Back
Charles Bry
David Chaum
Michael Clear
Wei Dai
Hal Finney
Neal J. King
Martti Malmi
Shinichi Mochizuki
John Nash
Tatsuaki Okamoto
Vladimir Oksman
Nick Szabo "

=========================

UsernameBitcoin, you have Finn Martti Malmi #8 in the first section of your list.

Martti was a young, extremely reclusive second year university student when I was in Finland.  He supported me, and I still appreciate that to

this day.

I guess he listened a lot to heavy metal music--  probably liked Saga too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbp6nUrEi7Q&bpctr=1543322563

He also had supported his fellow young Finn, Henrik Holappa.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esa_Henrik_Holappa

I don't know if Martti had, a couple of years later, tacitly supported Anders Behring Breivik or not.  Martti is a cautious dude.  There are unfairly

heavy duty speech control laws in place in Finland, even though that nation has a rich history of political intrigue.
https://www.flipsnack.com/5B786B58B7A/the-court-sayings-of-a-breivik-red-letter-a-linder-commentary.html

On January 2nd or 3rd, 2009, while in the political asylum system of Schengen,
https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/en/administration/information/general/asylum/

I was in this Monticello-reminiscent central Helsinki public library--

Kallio, sitting in the mezzanine having a typed conversation with Martti about the ATF having raided Tom Metzger's home on June 2nd, 2009.  

Martti expressed great concern.  Tom just left, instructing them to "lock the house up and put the key under the doormat when you

leave", I believe it was, lulz.

http://www.helmet.fi/en-US/Libraries_and_services/Kallio_Library
http://www.helmet.fi/en-US/Libraries_and_services/Kallio_Library
http://www.helmet.fi/en-US/Libraries_and_services/Kallio_Library/Whats_going_on/Book_an_exhibition_space_for_your_art_at(163773)

It was the second time in Finland I'd talked with Martti on Skype from within Finland, the first being at another library near a barracks-like

high-rise near the industrial section adjacent to a freeway where we had resided before being transferred to a semi-luxury hotel in Finland. My

roommate there was from Africa.  This refers back to Kallio library, which was nearby that hotel.

I've only recently-- within the past week-- discovered Martti's https://twitter.com/marttimalmi

relationship with Satoshi (I had forgotten Martti Malmi...didn't even know he has long been a public figure!), and then it all clicked.


I do wonder if Satoshi was really writing Martti in the emails Martti has laid in in the upper left of his twitter.  Martti says something like

"Satoshi has changed his writing style?".  Does this mean MM thinks Satoshi is hectoring him or calling in old favors when Satoshi says he

gave Martti a chance to be a part of history so early on?  I don't know.  Martti Malmi must be a very wealthy young man now-- like Satoshi,


though Satoshi is iconoclastic enough to perhaps not even have his private keys now to 63% or so of his 900,000 or 1,000,000 Bitcoins.  So

Satoshi alleges in one of the emails Martti has up.  The private key is gone.  (It'd make BTC even more valuable)

Does he enjoy the anonymity and power of mystery so much?  Is it safer from Deep State?  One would

reasonably conclude NSA would long have known-- does in fact know-- who he is too.  Admiral Poindexter was on the case then, right?  After

all, it's not as if he is on borrowed time or  anything.  Though the harsh

glare of publicity is a great shock, I personally know.  Fame without wealth is particularly difficult.


So I never met Martti face to face.  He was a reclusive, political young man.  It was all I could do to get his real name out of him, so I knew he

wasn't a  Finnish "hate speech" cop.  Finland hosted Lenin around the time of the Finnish Civil War, and in graditude, Lenin eventually gave the

nation their  freedom, even after the "Whites" (vs. the "Reds") won that civil war.  So the nation has always straddled the West and Russia.  

Political intrigue is there.  They are highly-educated.  Satoshi would like that.  Did. Does.

  
Martti offered me money, saying he had a little bit, but I avered I was quite

comfortable and well provided for in the political asylum system, though I later faced trial before 3 judges, two males and a female after a

long-haired surfer-looking  cop, his female partner and a male driver cop picked me up after knocking on my room door at the asylum hotel.  

At least the commanding officer running the Helsinki jail smiled, offered his hand, and asked me if I knew why I was there.  "The internet?" I

knowingly guessed, to which he immediately replied in the affirmative.  


It's amusingly funny to me very few people will believe this account.  You know, I do wonder if Martti Malmi knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is.  

As bright and good as MM is, and considering who else he was then in contact with, I'd be floored if he hasn't figured it out.


By the way, in reading through all James A. Donald's crypto posts on http://jim.com, I see in 2013 he essentially tacitly recommended Monero

as a unit which might rival or surpass Bitcoin.  Monero is just above $53.42 now.  Maybe MIT's open source PIVX at $.638?

I'll put my Bitcoin Ledger address in this post later.
==============================

EDIT:  Satoshi Nakamoto quotation from his email to Wei Dai of January 10, 2009 in which Satoshi formally refers to Adam Back and Hal Finney by their first and last names, but to "James" Donald --ever-present pot-stirrer/devil's advocate himself?-- merely as the familiar, chummy (who isn't naturally chummy and on a conversational basis with his own being?) and friendly "James".  The scaling probs were on Jame's/Satoshi's mind.

" ... ideas: a way of solving the kinds of problems James lists here, of  creating a globally consistent but decentralized database; and then using
| it for a system similar to Wei Dai’s b-money (which is referenced in the
| paper) but transaction/coin based rather than account based. Solving the
| global, massively decentralized database problem is arguably the harder
| part, as James emphasizes. The use of proof-of-work as a tool for this
| purpose is a novel idea well worth further review IMO.

Satoshi ..."
https://nakamotostudies.org/emails/satoshi-and-wei-dai-correspondence/

Wow. You made a huge work. There are so many people and 90% of them I dont know. Who is Satoshi Nakamoto in your opinion?

You forgot to add my genius submission to the list, bud.

Very good application for service in a detective Agency) But it seems to me that the real knowledge of who is actually the father and Creator of bitcoin has no practical use. On the contrary, the consequences of this investigation will be purely negative, since this person certainly has information that in the hands of fraudsters will be destructive. There is also a threat to personal safety.

Your original contention-- before I'd even posted--was that James Simons was Satoshi Nakamoto; then you revised that to suggest Nick Szabo is the one who was working for billionaires, Szabo being the actual paid worker bee Satoshi to have created Bitcoin, so to speak.  I don't know if you've edited out your older post about Simons actually being Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.60


https://www.gwern.net/docs/bitcoin/2008-nakamoto

Sounds definitive in the negative to me.

Again, Nick Szabo follows James Bowery on twitter and vice versa.  That might change (in case someone wants to get screenshots now).

I've read only about 500 Bitcoins have ever been spent by Satoshi.  This is an Eric Hoffer-like "true believer" stoic mindset, the more so

because some of those spends were when the value of BTC was much less.


I have seen James in his home drink out of glass food jars, a somewhat common and self-comforting retro trait of many midwesterners and

southerners.


Someone in the other thread makes the point-- without citing the date...I looked it up-- that in December 2017, James A. Donald made a post

about witnessing certain things in Cuba.  Donald cites no date.  Now, if you look up the price of BTC then, it was pretty startling and changing.

Maybe it was a period in which the heat was building.  It could be Donald was inventing a false clue, or maybe Donald had recently visited Cuba

as an American tourist and talked with old timers

there.  A 64 year old man (maybe 63 in 2017) would have been too young to have been in the sugar cutting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venceremos_Brigade of 1969 and really, too old in 2017, when the brigade was begun again.  


James A. Donald consistently avoided leaving or dropping any clues as to his real identity, though he made an exception in December

2017, for whatever reason.  My take is he made it up.  In communications to Martti Malmi, he seems obsessed with security.

FYI: James A. Donald once owned jim.com. Ref: https://web.archive.org/web/20180308073337/http://echeque.com/

Yes, that's precisely what I had already posted in the other thread in which we are discussing this, except, in the most technical sense,

a re-direct from echeque to jim.com does not perfectly prove James A. Donald owned either or both.  He probably set the redirect though,

sure.  I certainly believe he did/does own both, as I've already said in the other thread.  But I don't have an allwhois screenshot, as it is all

masked.


Also, as I mentioned before, jim.com was registered in February of 1995.  Early.  James A. Donald goes by both Jim and James, as does

Bowery.  This is of course no big deal re men with this name-- just another clue.

As it can and has been easily proven Bowery is a massively skilled C++ programmer with a long, intense interest going back to roughly the

mid-1990s in peer-to-peer file sharing, e-currencies, cryptography, gold (I believe he was a regular poster or reader on the goldismoney

board but haven't researched that .. he did in fact post a lot on Majority Rights).  


Seeing as how these are his known interests and skills, why

do you think he appears nowhere on Cypherpunks-- under his real name, Jim Bowery or James Bowery-- which I have found?  He was missing

in action?  A mere passive "interested reader"? Too dull? Too much a scientific nobody?  (Bowery has testified to Congress about the need for

scientific education).  

https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/users/319662/james-bowery

Too disinterested? Too reticent?  Or maybe just too present but with anonymous patina?  Which stands to reason?

James Bowery in Iowa just under 3 years ago speaking for Rand Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w39dpwSYsbw

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=james+bowery

Jim Bowery blog:
http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/?view=flipcard

Scroll 4:32 -- Nick Szabo (whose Bitgold work is strangely uncredited in Nakamoto's white paper) asks if "anyone wants to help me code one up?".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iSZIf4xVq0&feature=youtu.be

On December 27th, 2008 Szabo wrote, “Bit Gold would greatly benefit from a demonstration, an experimental market (with e.g. a trusted third party substituted for the complex security that would be needed for a real system). Anybody want to help me code one up?”

One week later on January 3rd, 2009, Satoshi released the code for Bitcoin, with Bit Gold as the inspiration.

(Clearly, Satoshi didn't code it up in a week.  So Szabo's request is stagy in the extreme.  The two would have been in concert for some months.)
https://coincentral.com/who-is-nick-szabo/


Bowery and Szabo follow each other on twitter.  Go see and get screenshots.

Could Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto of CA, a two-block away neighbor of Hal Finney (an easy address search on the net in 2008/9)  have been used as a patsy by JB, or a cabal of JB, Szabo and maybe even-- but not necessarily, Hal Finney himself?  Of the three, Bowery is by far the most skilled C++ coder.  
 ===========================

"The Book Of Satoshi" bundles old mailing-lists discussions with Satoshi Nakamoto. Upon reading through the pages, I noticed this sentence:

"The design [of Bitcoin] supports a tremendous variety of possible transaction types I DESIGNED YEARS AGO: escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/288a6n/another_pointer_to_nick_szabo/
Unrelated but interesting Hal Finney archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09975.html

(The Satoshi Nakamoto phrase  "I designed years ago: escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc" ... if you google it, it is all over, even in a Washington Post piece.  It's a genuine Satoshi quote.

Now read Crypto Kong below. -doublespend timestamp)
============================

https://cryptome.org/jya/crypto-kong.htm

15 January 1998 (EDIT NOTE: "Years ago" Satoshi quote.  Additionally, here is the Crypto Kong software.  Experienced C++ coders
can compare it to Satoshi's coding style.  But it's the current antifa year; few will even read long posts like this on V-Bulletin.
http://echeque.com/Kong/
-doublespend timestamp)

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:49:52 -0800 (PST)
To: Filtered Cypherpunks List <cypherpunks@toad.com>
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
Subject: Crypto Kong penetration.
(EDIT NOTE: Remember, James A. Donald was the first to reply to Satoshi Nakamoto's Jan. 3, 2009. -doublespend timestamp)

    -- 2
Since release there have been a very large number of hits on
the Kong documents, and mere 102 downloads of the program,
and 74 downloads of the source code.

The large number of source code downloads indicates that I am
only reaching the crypto techie audience, that for the most
part is already able to use PGP, not the non tech audience
that Crypto Kong was designed for.

On my web page I have documentation as to how business users
can and should use this product. (See the section "contracts
and certificates" <http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong>

I and Mather Cromer have prepared a release document targeted
at business users  (See below)

Does anyone have any suggestion of how to get the message in
front of the target audience?

 (press release oriented towards businessmen follows:


    --
   Announcing Crypto Kong.

    Free digital signatures and encryption.

    <http://www.jim.com/jamesd/Kong/Kong.htm>.

    Many businessmen use a faxed signature for a contract, or for
    authority to act, or worse still, a shared password, as
    stockbrokers often do.  This is almost worthless.

    The signature on a fax can be, and often is, a mere bitmap,
    not genuinely scanned in from a signature written in ink on a
    paper document, but merely applied digitally to an image in
    computer memory.  If that bitmap was also applied to some
    other document sent to the same company, which it usually
    was, then the fax proves nothing.

    On the other hand, often one cannot wait for FedEx to deliver
    signed documents.   The answer is digital signatures and
    encryption. With digitally-signed electronic documents, you
    can send unforgeable signed documents instantaneously across
    the globe.

    Crypto Kong is easy to use and it uses the same identity
    model that as businesses today use for ordinary handwritten
    signatures,  unlike other products which impose their own
    different way of handling identity.

    Crypto Kong takes away the hassles of certificate management,
    public key authentication, and complicated operating
    instructions.  Anyone can immediately use it to sign
    documents, to compare signatures  or to encrypt sensitive
    messages. Kong compares the signatures on documents, rather
    than comparing a signature against certificates.

    Crypto Kong software makes it easy to send or receive
    digitally signed documents or use top grade encryption to
    keep messages private.

    Crypto Kong provides support for contracts and the
    documentation that accompanies transactions.

    The Crypto Kong application and detailed documentation
    information is available as a free download from the Kong
    home page:

    Kong is compatible only with Windows 95 and Windows NT.
    Complete source code is also available for download from the
    home page.

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         James A. Donald
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JAN 9 (2009)
Quine's Simplification of Structural Realism
After reviewing Stanford's web page on Ontic Structural Realism, it is becoming more urgent that I try persuade scholars in this area to take more seriously Quine's monumental feat of clearing away semantic underbrush with his description of relata as syntactic sugars for relations.

Quine had the beginnings of a revolution in philosophy by relying on identity-as-substitutivity which, as it turns out, is adequate to describe all of mathematics using nothing but the predicate calculus:

“Chief among the omitted frills is the name. This again is a mere convenience and is strictly redundant, for the following reasons. Think of ‘a’ as a name, and think of ‘F(a)’ as any sentence containing it. But clearly ‘F(a)’ is equivalent to ‘(∃x)( a = x & F(x))’. We see from this that ‘a’ need never occur except in the context ‘a =’. But we can as well render ‘a =’ always as a simple predicate ‘A’, thus abandoning the name ‘a’. ‘F(a)’ gives way thus to ‘(∃x)(A(x) & F(x))’, where the predicate ‘A’ is true solely of the object ‘a’.

“It may be objected that this paraphrase deprives us of an assurance of uniqueness that the name has afforded. It is understood that the name applies to only one object, whereas the predicate ‘A’ supposes no such condition. However, we lose nothing by this, since we can always stipulate by further sentences, when we wish, that ‘A’ is true of one and only one thing:


(∃x)A(x) & ~ (∃x,y)(A(x) & A(y) & ~(x=y) )”


“(This identity sign “=” here would either count as one of the simple predicates of the language or be paraphrased in terms of them.)”



I really think a lot more progress in science, mathematics and philosophy would occur if scholars of "structure" would state their arguments in Quine's syntax.
Posted 9th January 2009 by Jim Bowery
http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/2009/01/quines-simplification-of-structural.html?view=flipcard

We don't know.  We don't need to.

I have a business card which I like to think might be Satoshi's.  It reads, "This card intentionally left blank."  I could upload a picture of it if you're interested.

FWIW, speaking as someone whose name is on your list of candidates, I regard this fixation on Satoshi's identity as being a little dangerous.  There are people who might do awful things to other people if they think that by doing so they might get their hands on Satoshi's coins.  Many of them read this forum.

Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto residing just two blocks from Hal Finney meets highly unlikely odds.  Yet his name (Satoshi Nakamoto) was pre-picked.

In 2008 and still today, Japanese engineering in the popular mind has great respect.  Perhaps in coding, not as much so, but even if that

circumstance holds, it is not in the popular mind.  So the coder snatched Finney's neighbor's name.  Clever, with the mysterious Orient element.

Nick Szabo had conceived many or most elements of it, without solving the doublespend issue...nad maybe some other vital 'unsolves'.

He advertised for a coder to come forward, and one did.  Szabo, from accounts, either doesn't code C++ particularly well or at all.

Szabo's initials-- 'NS' would be how a Japanese would write his name...this has been oft mentioned, i.e. 'Nakamoto Satoshi', 'NS'-- another cute

wrinkle..  


Then Satoshi glaringly leaves Nick's seminal work out in his treatise crediting bibliography.


Is the 'real' Satoshi Nick Szabo or his coder? (Wozniak to Jobs?).  After all, the coder made it happen and perfected it.  Neither one seems to have

done it for much money-- not billions, anyway.  A lot, but not billions maybe.  Unless their coins and the private key is extant.


If it is true, as someone claiming to be Satoshi emailed to Martti Malmi, that he (Satoshi) no longer had the private key-- if Satoshi has destroyed

it and all copies in a fit of dyspeptic passion, as it were, from reasonable loathing of persecution by govt or abject fear from kidnapping, theft,

harm to himself or even temptation to flood the market, and maybe inadvertently outing himself--  well, Satoshi would have retained plausible

deniability, at least in his own private considerations of what possibilities might

happen in future.

 
Under the historic circumstances, that is thin veneer.  Could Gutenberg have remained anonymous?


During the time Hal Finney was expiring from Lou Gehrig's Disease, his family requested donations of Bitcoin to help pay his medical

expenses.  One could claim that as a ruse so that his family would not be hassled or in danger after his passing, but it seems a stretch to me.

Szabo surely has very many coins, as would anyone who mined them at 50 per ten minutes (for the blocks they won) in 2009.  I think Szabo and

JAB likely snagged Nakamoto's name and address from public records.  Finney might have helped in that regard, but not so majorly otherwise.


As the very definition of Bitcoin is early peer to peer privacy (quite faulty but a portentous start) Szabo and his coder won't be fessin' up.  Why

would they?  They, as most of us, are true believers.  They want to upheave the system and have succeeded.  

When the total market was $800 billion and BTC was around 55% of it, they'd created  almost three times the wealth of Bezos' $155 billion, while

retaining, in Szabo's case, relative anonymity and in JAB the coder's case (if indeed he be) near total  anonymity except from maybe a very few

who knew him and might put it together.  But who would believe anyone without hard proof in the Fake News Idiocracy?  Almost no one at best.


By spending frugally they allay suspicions.

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Comment #72:
http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-bitcoin-buycott/

James Bowery says: • Website
January 21, 2018 at 10:53 pm GMT • 100 Words
The proof of work required for bitcoin is amenable to mass production of specialized “mining” hardware. This is the kind of thing that governments and other large institutions can manufacture as a military armament.

A better proof of work would require CPU computation and substantial RAM — which means people can use their personal computers to compete with the bureaucracies.

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SAN FRANCISCO
Satoshi Nakamoto Is On The Move, November 2nd, 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvF_cCH6lc


Chris R
2 weeks ago (edited)
i think you need to check the figures the current banking systems consumes about thousands of times more power than bitcoin does right now the usa uses more on christmas lights

Happiness Deciphered
3 weeks ago
Oh noes , Millions of Bitcoins floods the market , and get bought up INSTANTLY. THANKS.

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VIDEO- Chinese junking crypto-mining gear because no money to be made at current prices:
https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1064878600594305025

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079536.0

100,000+ BTC moved into segwit addresses
December 03, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
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A very interesting set of transactions happened just a couple of days ago. Someone has moved chunks of 25,000 coins into bech32 addresses. What's really weird is that he has moved it into an huge list of different addresses:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e4aaf711863d194cd8bdc04733e71b6a3296b788b5e7cd345dce17afde426841

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e8184cb85c93c073b83505856a88a87a2041480cb7410cc3cadaf59a9f8a417b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/a024efae4a970da9353a0e2a20381f4c567654f7052b86b5db6e69216a33ab77

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/fc24c43f5f9593ba12bc35a43b46c8ce51732e03e669c9e3ae099aed4d3024fb

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ad11701c33aecf82c092a7182909ce16b63d4574f1569459e27e97d22cd5e29b

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/257b4a8848541996857043e6d2f6319edddf5abde2776f4b49bb9e773cc4414c

He wants to increase his privacy by splitting them into different addresses? Anyhow, it could be said that whales trust segwit, or at least some whales do.

Re the last links, I'd say that them coins belong to Bitfinex cuz I can easily connect them addys to https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW as Burt comments about below (see OP of thread quoted) ... (took me less than two minutes, then found said thread)