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I know, i Know, nubbins led you all to believe that i would "never show my face in public on this forum again" well he was wrong. Although i do not have the time to read through the 100+ messages in my inbox, and i dont have the time nor the want to participate in his witch hunt thread. I am going to take a few minutes to clear a few things up as about 90% of what he and his band of misfits have lead you to believe is not true in any fashion. I'm going to work backwards here as its the fastest way to set the record straight.

1: Deliverymans coin (the lion)

Nubbins is 50% correct.


When you buy a commercial license for a stock image you can use it for whatever you want, In the case of Deliverymans coin the exact lion on the coin is not one i provided, I do not have the license for that and should not have carve it on the coin. I sent Deliveryman a design with a lion head on it, NOT THE ONE ON THE FINISHED COIN. Deliveryman sent me back a sketch of what he wanted stating that he was OCD about things being symmetrical and wanted the lion head that is currently on the coin. I was un-aware that he grabbed the image from a stock images site or i would have requested he provide a copy of the license for it.

2: The process

yes my clients get a sketch of their designs before i begin carving, I lay out the design on canvas with charcoal until it looks the way i want it (THIS IS CALLED SKETCHING ITS WHAT YOU CALL IT WHEN YOU PUT A PEN, PENCIL, PAINT, CHARCOAL OR OTHER MATERIAL TO CANVAS, PAPER, OR WHAT HAVE YOU),then scan in into the computer to send to them for approval. i have NEVER not ONCE claimed that i drew the individual elements that make up any of the coins, but in any event, any design element that is not my own I OWN THE LICENSE FOR and can legally use them. The witch hunt would lead you to believe this makes me a fraud. If that is the case, then they better also start threads for Smoothie, Casicus, Kialara, and a half dozen other metal coin makers as they all have stock image elements in them. But we all know the mob mentality does not operate on logic or reason. If the client wanted me to draw out my own art design, i.e. draw them an original lion. i have no problem with that, but they are also going to pay dearly for that as well as my original artworks cost much much much more than i have ever charged anyone here.

3: All this crap that i own a laser machine

100% false. As i have stated before  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880599.msg9720494#msg9720494) i dont need to spend $80,000 to transfer a design to wood. A sheet of carbon transfer paper costs me about $0.05. Once the final design is approved it takes about 5 minutes for me to turn the scanned design into a line drawing, then it is nothing more than printing it out and tracing it with carbon paper onto the wood. Then all thats left is to remove the wood around the lines. If that makes me a fraud then about every artist in the world is a fraud even before the days of technology and carbon paper artists use to use pot ash to transfer their sketches to canvas before starting work on the final piece.

Long and the short of it, if you were working with pine or super soft wood, most any of you could be taught to do the same thing in less than a day. the skill comes in when working with hardwoods, hardwood grain tears easy, it will splinter in a heartbeat if you are not careful, and its a quick way to cut off a finger if you dont know what your doing. When you know what your doing, how hard to you think it really is to cut within the lines? i think they teach you that in grade school yeah?

To lay out a little common sense for you, IF I OWNED A LASER I COULD SHIT OUT 10 COINS IN AN AFTERNOON, collect $50,000 and still have time to go to Disneyland. Yet it takes sometimes an entire month to clear out the wood around the design. But the mob mentality does not use common sense or simple logic.

4: The tools

Yes i own a lathe, 3 of them in fact. One's a JET, one's a Grizzly, and ones a Oneway. One is used only for roughing out blanks as they vibrate like hell when out of round and i am not tearing up my $12,000 machine when i have a $1,000 machine that i can tear to pieces and replace once a year if i had to. The chisels, Yep they are clean, Nubbins asked for a picture of them, and i delivered, but since they are clean and sharp as hell i must be a liar, like he can tell that in a photo. HSS and Carbon steel is expensive, when you invest thousands in tools you take care of them. So sue me for keeping my things clean. That does not make me a fraud like the witch hunt wants you to believe. I also own a handful of rotary tools, a band saw, a table saw, 2 scroll saws, a joiner, a planer, a table router, a portable saw mill, a dozen or so drills, a drill press, and more other stuff that i dont feel like inventorying just to list here.

5: The Laserviking incident

Over the weekend after i listed IronMarvels last coin i got over a dozen e-mails of people wanting to put their name on coin #9. Laserviking was second, but he talked me into a deposit and holding off on the rest of the funds until this Friday 1/23/15. Laserviking was already only a few days in one of the most difficult people i have worked with on this forum, after only a day he made it clear his only real want was to re-sell the coin later because i am not making any more than the 10 2015 coins for this year. His greed and want of profit is NOT MY PROBLEM. When nubbins set out on his witch hunt to eliminate his competition Laserviking started messaging me with all his requests and hoops he wanted me to jump through and says " i am putting this coin on hold" until you act like a trained monkey and jump through these hoops. My reply, i told him privately, and now will share it publicly "fuck you, i am nobody's trained monkey" Is that professional? Who cares, i know i dont. Every business man at one time or another is going to find that one pain in the ass that will never be happy no matter what you do. I offered long before he even had a chance to read the Nubbins smear campaign to make the video for the community of his coin being done. Way more than i had to do as that was never part of the deal. I told him if it wasn't paid by friday he would forfeit it, and it two days coin #9 will be back up for grabs and he eats 1BTC.

6: The art in general

Lets just be clear here, I DID NOT COME HERE TO SELL YOU ART, IT HAS BEEN MORE OF A PAIN IN THE ASS THAN ANYTHING EVEN BEFORE NUBBINS SMEAR CAMPAIGN. I came here to buy wood from forum members. I still today do that daily, and that's is truly the only thing i give a rip about around here. Some months ago Blazedout asked me to make him a BTC, so i made him a BTC the day after it was done i got another message, then another then another, and another. I didnt have a problem doing some quick work in between real jobs (the ones that pay the bills and keep the lights on... The original 100% unique pieces i sell outside this place) to spread a little style around the bitcoin space. but the truth is, not to be an ass, but 90% of you here cannot afford me, not my original work, i knew it coming in to the forum and thats why i never offered it until the demand got out of hand that it was just easier to make a thread so i could stop answering the same questions 20 times a day.

Every single piece of art i have sold on this forum was hand carved, well i cant say that, every single piece of art i sold on this forum was either hand carved or turned on a lathe. Every single piece of art i have sold here is still just as beautiful as my 100% unique works, i just have not spend the dozens of hours in creating custom artwork to put on the art and had 0 complaints until Nubbins started in. If you own a ferrari, and your wind visor breaks, rather than spending $1,000 on a new one from the factory, you buy the aftermarket one for $200, does that make your car not a ferrari? Nubbins and his mob wants you to think so.

7: This shit about videos

I have said it before and i will say it again, I AM NOBODY'S TRAINED MONKEY. With that said, i run a business, actually 3 business. I make bitcoin art in my spare time when people ask for it. Beyond the pieces i have commissioned to be done through my galleries right now i have now 11 pieces that are needing to be done for forum members that are already paid for.

Let me tell you what i am not going to do, Put my life, my business, and my work on hold to start jumping through hoops for a badger and his band of misfits. This is my busiest time of year even without this forum. What better way to save on the taxes than to buy a $300,000 piece of corporate art for your lobby of your office building and write it off. There is no point in feeding a band of hungry badgers. Even before i have had a chance to make a video they have already told you " it will be of crappy craftsmanship and blah blah blah" These people do not care about truth or fact, that was not their mission from the start. so why be in a hurry like it matters.

What i am going to do...... I have about a half dozen projects for this forum that are having finish work done right now, that means applying the oils, sealers, poly, acrylic, and liquid glass resin. It takes time as most of that stuff has to dry for hours between coats. While its wet, i cannot have any dust in the air, i have a drying room but it is full of things going to clients outside this forum, so the forum pieces are drying in my workshop with 3 dust collectors and an air filtration unit running. As soon as they are dry, i will start carving on the next batch of pieces for the forum and i will set up a camera for those of you who wish to see how its done. NOT TO APPEASE THE WITCH HUNT. As a matter of fact if any of you are interested in learning the basics of wood carving i may even make an instructional video series for you on the forum here. Dont worry, i will put a sign with my forum name on it so you know its me. You can buy yourself a cheap set of chisels for about $20 on ebay, and to start with i recommend you grab yourself some pine. If i find there is enough interest and people serious about learning a new skill via the web and videos i will go ahead and do a video series as well.

8: Who am I?

Honestly NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. I am not here trying to sell you my brand. 90% of you cannot afford it, i make art pieces for the people here because they ask for it. There are all of 3 people on this forum who know who i really am, and every one of them would not sell that secret for $100,000 because they have a vested interest in keeping the secret. What i am is why you will never find out. I am, in fact a world famous artist, my pieces have been in the Smithsonian on exhibit at the Louvre and in the home of pompous wealthy people the world over. Even if you have the money and want to spend a ton of it, even buying one of my original artworks via this forum will not get you my identity. There is too much at stake.

In the art world, or for that matter any luxury goods world, taking a very well branded high end product and then doing lesser works and selling them for cheaper is called scalping. Scalping work is the fastest way to destroy a million or billion dollar brand. There is a reason you will never see Louis Vuitton or Prada "on sale" or "on clearance" If you do you can be assured its fake as every single distributor is bound by their contract that they are not allowed to do so, that makes the work valuable and always expensive, its called an access barrier. LV and Prada buy back their unsold merchandise and literally burn it, it keeps the brand managed and expensive. There is a book, its called "luxury brand management". Read it ! It is no different in the art world, Once i sold a piece of art for 7 figures, all my art values went up because someone was willing to pay 7 figures for a piece, because you do not get direct access to me ever without a referral my work is expensive. If it got out that i made some little bitcoin trinket for a few grand and sold it, every single piece of art i have ever made will lose value. There are some really great people here on the forum, and some of you i really like and enjoy talking with like Blazedout and OgNasty and TookDK, but i dont like any of you enough to risk millions of dollars and my life's work.

Likely story right? The only explanation is that you don't get an explanation. Well played WoodCollector!.......... Tough shit, i like some of you, but none of you enough to risk my life's work.  No amount of trolling, accusations, or what have you is going to change that. The truth is, none of you people really matter to me. At the end of the day, most of you are just some kid, or adult that still has not grown up that are sitting at home behind a computer screen in a fight for virtual popularity. Collecting "likes" "thumbs up's" and "forum reputation" like its crack cocaine. Like i said, i like some of you, but none matter so much that i really have to care if i leave this place. Dont forget, i came here to buy wood not sell bitcoin trinkets. I could take a log, bash it with a mallet. throw it off a roof, cover it in poly throw it on display, call it something like "urban warfare" and sell it for more than most of your houses within a few months. That is a nice luxury to have, im not giving it up for anyone here.

9: So why bitcoin?

My brother gave me some, and the technology is great. i may outright hate 80% of the people that are in bitcoin, but the technology is great and there are a handful of really great people in it too. Bitcoin saves me time and money on buying wood direct. Why make the art with so much at stake? I dont really, i have told quite a few people here no. If i make something for you when you ask its because i feel that you are vital to the community and deserve something to symbolize what you believe in. Some things are better than money, giving someone something they truly love is one of those things. So i take a few shortcuts to make something beautiful for you. Sue me. I didnt use a laser as accused, and your piece is still gorgeous. Carbon paper and stock images are not a crime. That's why they sell them.

10: the real truth

Due to Nubbins business on this forum, he considers me direct competition, he is a great manipulator and knows how to work a crowd. His smear campaign is nothing more than trying to get an angry mob to get rid of me with outright lies or half truth's. If i had the time to waste on it i am sure at least 80-90% of what has been said on his thread is false, speculation, or smoke and mirrors. I dont have the time and i dont really care.

The summary

I'm not going anywhere, i'm here to buy wood, and i have talked to everyone that is selling it to me and they could care less what Nubbins is up to. I am making them money  ;)

Nubbins and his band of misfits are soon going to take over this thread with their banter as part of their witch hunt. I still dont give a rats ass, as long as it gives them something to do. I dont really have the time nor the desire to play games any more. Nobody here matters that much too me that i am going to get worked up over this any longer. If you dont like the facts or want to try and bend those as well, have at it. I can send you a bottle of ketchup, maybe that will make it easier to swallow. Truth Hurts.

If you want an art piece made, message me. If i have the time, we can work something out. If you want something 100% unique, then your going to pay for it, if you want something original in design, you get a little better price. If you want a video of it being made i'm ok with that as long as your willing to pay for the extra time it takes to set up, and do the video editing so it is a small enough file i can e-mail it to you. If your just another body behind a computer screen, i'm probably not going to make you something no matter the price.


Edit: Pretty much 100% of anything posted below this post will not be read by me, i wasted an entire day on this issue yesterday and my clients both here on the forum who are waiting for work, and the real clients outside the forum deserve better from me. I have deadlines, i keep them.

yawn :)

UPDATE 1: WoodCollector creates a hate thread in order to intimidate me into silence. He will post his evidence "soon": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0)

UPDATE 2: A carver with 40 years of experience calls bullshit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017)

UPDATE 3: Several pieces are found to be using stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824)

UPDATE 4: IMPORTANT: I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance. I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.

UPDATE 5: Thread where WoodCollector attempts to recruit paid shills to push his phony wares: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0)

UPDATE 6: Thread where our Master Carver is tired of making $10 million a year, and is interested in a much more lucrative career operating a dark market website selling marijuana paraphernalia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499).

UPDATE 7: More stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300)

UPDATE 8: WoodCollector resorts to using homophobic slurs to silence his detractors: https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png (https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png)

What is the tl;dr version?

Someone just go to your local wood worker or call a wood working business and have them look at the photos. Woodcollector's probably had tens of thousands of dollars (or more) of business destroyed by nubbins (if his accusations are true).

Regarding issue number 1.  Just to be clear, I communicated with deliveryman and he told me he was not aware at any time that the images on his coin were anything but original works of art made by WoodCollector, and was quite disappointed to find out that they weren't. Contrary to what WoodCollector is claiming, WoodCollector was the one who first came to deliveryman with the vector image lion design(exact image nothing changed) and presented it as a "sketch", not the other way around. 

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/bullshit.jpg

And
 
http://www.medimanage.com/Images/marketing-excuses.jpg

Awwwww look at that. When people actually put the facts in play, and refuse to let Nubbins witch hunt continue. He locks the thread like a scared little child.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235549#msg10235549

Whats the matter nubbins, cant handle a little of your own medicine little man?

This thread is titled "Nubbins is using a witch hunt to try and iliminate his competition".

As far as I can see, Nubbins makes $45 screen prints, whereas Woodcollector makes $$$ wall hanging sculptures and cheap bongs and dildos.
How are they in competition? 

Nubbins tries to sell physical bitcoins all the time.

Not even tries; does.

You know that a piece of wood with a BTC etched into it is not a "physical bitcoin" any more than a piece of paper with $$$ written on it is a dollar, right?

How the mighty has fallen.



I like how TerraHasher the multimillionaire also uses the same phrases that WoodCollector do (children, trolls, 10 yr olds, 5 year olds, childish, etc.) and how both of them are also big shot businessmen!

TerraHasher, good luck in your lawsuit against PayPal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402405.msg4391601#msg4391601) and your multi-million dollar business!

You know that a piece of metal with a design stamped into it is no more a physical bitcoin than an elephant is a fish right? at its core, bitcoin is binary code, cannot be touched.

Whats your point? are you going to admit you are on a witch hunt to try and get rid of the competition and this has nothing to do with a scam now?

Didnt think so, your not man enough to admit your mistakes, you'll ride them into the ground until nobody takes you seriously.

Here's a $12,600 piece of wood being sold for under $600:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-49-x-8-x-1-25-/171638172084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f66ea9b4 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-49-x-8-x-1-25-/171638172084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f66ea9b4)

Here's a 43lb chunk for less than a tenth of what blazedout's piece cost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-42-x-10-x-3-125-thats-43-pounds-of-awesome-/181613345598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a48ffbb3e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-42-x-10-x-3-125-thats-43-pounds-of-awesome-/181613345598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a48ffbb3e)

At this rate all we will have left here on the forum are trolls, scammers, and mobs. I am watching all the actual contributing members flea from this sinking ship of degeneracy that has become Bitcointalk. Have fun ruling over the scorched rat infested ruins after you drive anyone decent away just so you can put on a plastic badge for a few minutes and play scambuster.

TECSHARE, this guy STOLE over twenty thousand dollars from the members of this forum in the past three months.

If you don't like me putting him to task for it, please just stop posting in these threads. Your posts are adding as much noise as anyone else.

If bitcoin had more people like you in it tecshare, bitcoin would have hit main stream a year ago. A buddy of mine i told about bitcoin about 5 months ago went to check it out. Found this place via google and a few days later when i talked to him says " It reminds me of those kids that play that world of warcraft game all the time...... I would rather pay the bank fees than use bitcoin and have to deal with that garbage if i needed help or to ask a question"

Worst part is that he does import / export all the time and probably does over a million a year in transactions. It made me think how many more like him are out there. tens of millions a year in transactions that we are missing in the market because of this crap forum.

I'll admit, i'm just as guilty, i am man enough to say when i do wrong. But in my guilt, i aim to expidite the process, the sooner this turns to scorched earth, the sooner it dies, the sooner it can rebuild without the scum, or a new technology will come along leaving these folks behind.

We need a new forum or community social space for sure. Not just a face lift on this one, but a new, advanced, heavily moderated, 0 b.s. tolerated gathering space. Not bitcointalk 2.0 . org. More like bitcoinforgrownups.org. No virtual popularity digital currency like the default trust crap that is so heavily abused here. 0 tolerance for witch hunts. Mandating concrete proof to have something listed as a scam, not a bunch of speculation, theory's and smoke and mirrors. And most of all, a 0 trolling policy. Something to keep cliques like the Nubbins, fishbone, smoothie, redsnow etc. band of misfits from ever behaving like they do.

In the mean time. i will do my part to defend the innocent from witch hunts, and aid in the demise of this failed social experiment so it can rebuild into something better.

First of all, YOU HAVE NOT PROVEN ANYTHING. You have strung together a bunch of speculation, assumptions, and accusations with almost zero factual backing and used it to create a mob. This isn't how disputes are arbitrated, this is how children act, and regardless of your premise being right or wrong it IS IN FACT DESTRUCTIVE TO THIS COMMUNITY. Imagine for a second that you are not infallible, and perhaps you are in fact mistaken, would you still find your behavior acceptable? No matter how convinced you are of your own conclusions, YOU ARE NOT INFALLIBLE.

In less than 24 hours you have managed to incite a mob against WC before he even had an opportunity to provide any countering evidence. Even IF you are right, YOU ARE WRONG. You "taking him to task" is little more than you satiating your compulsive desires for retribution, NOT an honest debate about the subject. THAT is the problem. Unfortunately this mob mentality is endemic on this forum, and it is driving away long term productive members because they would rather not take a chance of being caught up in this sort of childishness that people such as yourself seem to think is ok because "scambusting".

Goat made a Big Brother, you-must-play-nice Bitcoin forum ages ago. It's called CryptoCrypt, and it's a piece of shit. Check it out. (You'll need to sign up to even view the subforums).

Who's Goat, you ask? Oh, right, you're a fucking rube with no concept of the history of this place or the endless shills and scammers just like your buddy who have passed through here.

You'd probably like it better than here, so I guess we won't be seeing you around anymore. Maybe your million-dollar-a-year buddy can get an account too.

Seriously, why do these fools exaggerate so much? $80k/year would at least be BELIEVABLE, but I guess more=better if you're an idiot, so it's A MILLION BUX now.

TECSHARE, just hit the Ignore button under my profile picture.

Now the personal attacks on people pointing out your overreaction? Very adult. You are right, what would I know about the history of this forum, I have only been here since 2011 (2 years before you). All that other bullshit you just said is fluff to distract from the fact that you are slowly realizing that you probably fucked up, and the mob is starting to look at you. Enjoy your own personal inquisition.

i agree with you, personally id like to call it not scambusting, likely witchhunt, capture, stab and ask question later

nubbins state his evidence with his assumptions that his evidence is 100%, its assumptions

until WC dont provide the promised video it will be only then his assumptions will be facts

Until he doesn't provide the video? Uh... how long do we wait?

I have actually had several of WC's customers contact me via PM and state that they know they were ripped off, but they're afraid to speak out publicly because they fear he will release their personal info.

few speaks as if they were ripped off because of your claim that WC is a fraud and use laser engraver instead of hand carver, we still dont know if this is a fact or not until the promised video is being made

as stated below


PS : bolded part was done by me

Cool story bro

For all those waiting for a video, please state below the maximum amount of time you are willing to wait for the video.

Me: one month.

Fixed.


The question is when are you going to leave... or stop whining and get over it? I can't believe you're complaining over this of all things. How the community policies itself works great 99% of the time. All WoodCollector needs to do is provide evidence which he should be able to do easily and very quickly but all we have seen so far is stalling and excuses. If he provided satisfactory evidence the accusations would have ceased and he would've likely received an apology and everyone would've moved on and WoodCollector would've come out unscathed and possibly even better for it as any doubts people had would've been quashed. 


He doesn't care. He just wants to derail yet another thread to make it all about him and how hard done by he feels. 


Since when is this forum the entire bitcoin Eco-system? This is just an Internet message board and it has people from both sides of the spectrum and everything in between from scammers to scam-busters, pioneers to plagiarists and altruistic libertarian anarchists to greedy capitalist pigs. If you can't handle any of that and are looking for a peaceful utopia then this isn't the place, but you're free to go try create one. 


You seem to know a lot about what he does and doesn't do but nobody is buying your bs because it's clear you are a shill in whatever capacity. Again, this forum isn't the entire bitcoin universe just a small piece of it, but I wonder how much btc has been transacted soley because this forum exists? A lot more than what you are proposing is being missed out on that's for sure. 


You and Techshare should stop complaining and go ahead and do that but you'll quickly see how it will descend into chaos and then also a barren wasteland when people leave for being censored left and right. Whether you like it or not the way this forum is run works exceptionally well and people tend to agree right up until they do something wrong and they're exposed for it and handled rightfully by the community/staff. 

Another professional example of how to act by the professional staff.

11 pages of TECSHARE complaining about another Scam Buster, who blew the whistle on TradeFortress.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0)

TradeFortress, which was TOTALLY NOT PROVEN TO BE A SCAM SO YOU CAN'T GO THROWING AROUND ACCUSATIONS LIKE THAT OH FUCK WHERE DID ALL OUR MONEY GO

Get the fuck out of here, put me on ignore, shut the fuck up complaining about the noise coming from people stomping the rats in your basement.

Ok, I see this is about me now. Interesting. Don't mind the fact that VOD was actually abusing the trust system to silence me, but don't let that stop your little mob here. My complaint about VOD had nothing to do with Tradefortress, but it works for you to make it sound that way ;)

Oh I have a feeling you won't have to wait much longer, then you my friend are going to look a complete tool.

ukcrypto, a direct question: how long are you willing to wait? Please state a direct answer below.

as we all know, ignoring a direct question twice in a row is a telltale sign of a shill.

2 days .. A direct question for you?

What will you do when he shows himself carving?

I will mail your "ukcrypto is a fucking shill" t-shirt to you, free of charge.

Quoting for posterity. This will come due January 25, 2014, 15:13:37 FST (forum standard time!)

Wow seriously I hope people see what an arrogant twat you are, ok I will ask again:

What will you say in response to him carving and not using a laser, will any apology be forthcoming or will you just continue sounding retarded.

I am not a shill no matter how many times you say it, you just fail to contemplate that his customers are happy with his products - until other buyers come and here and say otherwise.

Ok btw on the Tshirt - I will message you my address and see if you are true to your word.

ARE YOU SHITTING ME !!!!! Hilariousandco is a damn staff member and he behaves like that? Now i understand why satoshi left. funny when you look at the dates most of these people joined and the date satoshi left. Set a social experiment in motion, leave, and watch the kids tear it all to hell, burn it to the ground until there is nothing but scorched earth left.

He will say nothing, he will divert attention from it, make excuses for why its BS, and defend is non defensible position / behavior until his fingers bleed. He is a sociopathic pathological liar. He's so good, he can convince himself that his own bullshit is true.

its a free speech here, everyone got their own opinion, and hilarious put on opinion based on assumptions made by nubbins which isnt fault at all even if he is a staff, and hilarious behaviour got nothing to do with satoshi  ;D this is clearly out of topic imo

I still want to see proof that you were actually bribed. Can you post a screenshot of a PM of WC offering this bribe? Can you post a txid of the transaction that he sent you?

Why would i have to post a screen shot. He didnt hide it, he was paying me to keep a secret, not keeping secret he paid me to remove my post.

Start here and read down. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900656.msg9978848#msg9978848

Also, it was not a bribe. It was an offer to buy my silence. Which was for sale

I was not aware of that post.

I would have to say this is a very strange case. I also think this forum has way too much drama and this is contributing to this problem

Unfortunately, the drama comes into play when knowledgeable people spot an obvious rotten fish stink, and rubes don't listen to what they're told. About thirty pages of fucking bullshit so far, trying to wipe one single shit smear out of this forum so that honest people can do business.

Well I dont understand why you left negative feedback on terrahasher. He was paid several weeks before this accusacation came to light. I can't say with certainty but I would say the information he is withholding probably relates to WC's real life identity.

The rating he left you *may* have some level of merit as you do appear to be in a similar business (if your claim turned out to be incorrect then it would be more true). Tech share (who has traded on here honestly for a long time says that it is not possible to tell if a laser was used by looking at pictures on a computer 

I am also the owner of a 40w laser engraver.

Because he's a shill for a scammer, and therefore a scammer, and all scammers must hang.

This was not about drama, this was about his account PM's were compromised some how. I got information from a friend and thought it was public knowledge already. The secret behind the 10th coin and why only 10 coins total. He explained to me that he is keeping it secret because he did not want to insight bidding wars over the coins. It would not be fair to his clients. I think its a very honorable thing he did. Giving up $1,000 of his own money to protect his clients.

It's not the first time.

There was a huge mixup over an auction. He basically gave away a few thousand dollars to make good by the two parties who were affected and get them a coin. He didnt have to

Then, there was his bounty campaign for a brand name development. After weeks nobody really came up with anything he could use. But someone listed something that gave him some inspiration for the name he came up with himself. He paid the guy. RIGHT AWAY. he didnt have to, he didnt use the name the guy provided. but because WC is an outstanding person and an honorable man. He paid the guy anyways.

I could go on for the next hour with more, but i think your able to read his post history and trust ratings in between the red lines of false accusations.

WC is one of the most honorable men i have ever met on this forum, i am not the only one who thinks so, i have gotten over a dozen messages since i logged on for the day from guys cheering me on, telling me thanks for sticking up for him. that they were to afraid of Nubbins and his possy trashing their reps and stuff if they spoke up. This forum sucks that way, Default trust, childish bullies who spend hours and hours a day trying to turn speculation, theory's and outright lies into something they can sell on the forum to trash someone. This whole system, forum is messed up like that. Either hide and dont say anything so you dont piss of the usual suspects. Tomatocage, Nubbins, RedSnow, all those guys, or speak your mind, stand up for what you know is right and true, and let them trash you too.

Me, i will stand up for WC until my rating is as bad as king of sports. WC is one of the greatest forum members i have met here and i have yet to find a more honorable man. When he says something is going to get done, it gets done. He offered to let a bunch of people watch him carve on the eff nubbins piece yesterday on skype, including quite a few of the witch hunt degenerates from the forum here. Every single one of them he could contact said no. Just proves to me they are on a witch hunt and not a fact finding mission. I watched him for over an hour.

Anyone reading this who thinks TerraHasher is NOT a paid shill who would literally shit in his own mouth for a buck, please say so...

I would disagree. He obviously does have some level of taint because he has received money from WC before but the transaction in question has nothing to do with this allegation, he was paid to remove posts several weeks ago, not to stick up for WC nor to spread misinformation.

A scammer is essentially someone who has stolen money. If you say "scammers must hang" then you are saying it would be appropriate for them to get the death penalty for stealing witch could not be farther from an appropriate punishment. I do not like scammers either and I think that someone who has scammed should obviously not be trusted in the future and anyone considering doing business with them in the future should take steps to protect themselves.

I would say a more appropiate punishment for scammers is jail and/or community service (eg taking steps to make the community a better place).

Is anyone willing to compile a list of how much money WoodCollector has earned with his frauds so far?

Bonus points and recognition as a hero if you correlate BTC amounts to exchange rate on the day of the posting.

i think he already has done this. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868954

You just need to click on each of the threads he linked to find the selling prices

With his fraud? Thats easy 0 dollars and 0 cents. Total sales via the forum or with bitcoin. I know they are over $150,000 at minimum. Barley 20-25% of his work for the forum is published, i saw a bunch of them on skype yesterday. 2 forum members that i know of were granted the privilege to come to his gallery in NYC as they live there and wanted to check it out and buy with bitcoin.

That number is going to increase soon as i am intent on winning the auction for the "fuck nubbins" piece he is making in his videos. Dont care if it costs me $5,000 its going to be hung above my toilet in the master bathroom. And a bunch of the guys on the skype feed yesterday ordred some stuff too.

Why do you want to know? checking to see if you have had any impact on his business here? I can answer that for you, you have had a tremendous impact on his sales here. I think at least $30,000 of that $150,000 i know of for sure came from yesterdays skype feed. Even though your a moron you have made him now famous online as well, like a marketing genius you are. At this rate, he will probably break 500k by the time the snow melts. I know i have a few more pieces i want to have made.

Can you provide txid's for any of these transactions?

Sorry Quickseller, i'n not sure which ones your asking for. The transactions back on the 30th when he paid me? or the TXID's for the things he has sold?

No, there is no way i would have access to those. He sent the payment addresses to them on skype in PM's, the only way i knew what was going on was because we were all talking on a group chat with audio and after he sent them the addresses i heard them tell him a few minutes later that the funds were sent.

I know the payment addresses started with "1Wood" because all of his do. is there any way to scan the block chain for transactions to and from addresses starting with 1Wood from yesterday? I am sure there has to be. Thats about the only way i could think of to get them.

I cant really just ask him" hey can i have the TXID's for all those transactions yesterday? the guys over on the witch hunt want them." as i am pretty sure he would just laugh and say, what the hell are you still doing hanging out with those misfits (not you directly just the mob in general). he hasnt been on his WC account in a few days from what i can tell so i highly doubt he is even up to date with the latest wild theory's and smoke and mirrors going on over here.

EDIT : just check the address, any out or in is included with TX ID, just click it

Not unless the hash is the same for every address in the world. Who re-uses bitcoin addresses these days?

LOL look at what we are all discussing this has turned into a joke.

Evidence refuting claims of it being laser engraved work WC does could have been posted but...still waiting...(its been over 2 days since he said he would post a video).

The long he takes the more of a joke it becomes.

The longer he takes, the more idiots that reveal themselves. You really think this was ever a fact finding mission? He was streaming on Skype yesterday for over 4 hours. He even invited some of the same idiots that sit here and spit bullshit conspiracy theory all day long to sit in, they said no. I dont think there could be any more evidence that this was never anything more than a witch hunt than that. He already said that he is uploading the video from yesterday to youtube. It's youtube, your not going to upload an hour and a half of video in 2 minutes. Last i heard on skype it was about 55% done and he started it at like 8p.m. last night my time. So i figure it will be up for him sometime overnight tonight while he is sleeping.

What do you really think thats going to change anyways? Are you man enough to apologize after the video is uploaded? I doubt it. Are you going to remove your negative feedback after the video is uploaded? I doubt it. Are you going to do anything other then stand in line with the mad mob of degenerates and continue to try and find another angle to work this from so you don't have to admit that pretty much all of you crossed the line on this one? Not very likely. Not a single damn one of you is concerned with the truth. quite a few of you had the chance yesterday to see the truth. instead you all kept up on reddit with the idiocy.

Every one of you fuckers is going to owe him an apology when this is done, and i am 1,000,000% sure that not a single one of you is man enough to give it to him because your all a bunch of whiny little kids. The bulk of you proved that yesterday by thinking that your refusal to watch the stream and see the truth, makes it all still a lie.

It was my impression that most of his sales were based in fiat so I would find it strange that all of a sudden he is accepting all these orders from people via bitcoin and that this many people have enough bitcoin to purchase this much art from him. I am sure that someone could go through all the transactions with apparent vanity addresses to verify/refute your claims. However I do find it unlikely that people would still be willing to buy his art on here while all this is going on.