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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Mining (Altcoins) => Topic started by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 03:33:03 AM



Title: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 03:33:03 AM
so i tried to get mining setup and ready for flappycoins but the only miner i could get to work was cudaminer, at first i got an error saying out of memory.. im guessing my card sucks its an nvida geforce 9200 my hash is at 1.40 - 1.50 my question is is ther a way to get more cores running ? if i provide a pic can anyone help me out why does it say gpu 0:

i thought i had more cores? any help would be awesome sorry to be a burdin also em i just waisting my time trying to mine with big hardware??

https://i.imgur.com/uzn2whZ.png


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: notlist3d on February 13, 2015, 06:57:27 AM
Might post command you are using.

And most likely yes you are wasting time.  Most CPU/GPU coins you mine at a loss.   Asics have taken over regular scrypt coins.  The ones left just are hard for most part to make profit.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: MaxDZ8 on February 13, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
nvida geforce 9200
:o
The 9200 was an absolutely bleak card, even in the age gen 9000 cards were state of the art. It is a low-power, low-cost design, even by integrated GPU standards of the time (I think there was a 9120 which is even smaller). I'd say it's doing an awesome job considering its age!

is is ther a way to get more cores running ? if i provide a pic can anyone help me out why does it say gpu 0:
It's ok. It's the first GPU in your system, counting from 0. It's not the number of cores. As a side note, many computers equipped with such cards often feature a way more powerful processor. No, you cannot get more cores.

em i just waisting my time trying to mine with big small hardware?
(corrected that for you).
Yes. It's not even worth for learning purposes as the dynamics are screwed. Leaving aside that scrypt is dead for amateurs, you need to get at least 50x more performance. Those cards could be around 75 bucks but I honestly don't suggest to buy one and I don't think you can mount one anyway.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 08:15:37 AM
Thank you for your explenation ! It helped me out


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: ranochigo on February 13, 2015, 08:24:24 AM
Mining speed of 1kh/s is extremely slow, a modern desktop GPU could easily beat that. The GPU is too old. AFAIK, Cudaminer automatically makes adjustment to achieve optimal hashrate. With cudaminer being the most efficient software for nvidia GPU, you can't get anymore hashrate other than that. Try buying a scrypt ASIC if you want to learn more about scrypt mining.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Amph on February 13, 2015, 08:45:19 AM
buy a new nvidia card like 750ti, they are very cheap, low consumption and very good hashrate


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: MaxDZ8 on February 13, 2015, 11:25:12 AM
Very cheap for you enthusiasts maybe. For non-enthusiasts a cheap card is 50 bucks. Midrange 80, High-end 100, 120 if we want to go overkill. Not to mention always the same thing: if it's for mining, it's trashing money. If for learning, better to upgrade the whole system.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 03:18:42 PM
Max i can spend is 400$ maybe $1000 budget


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: ranochigo on February 13, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
Max i can spend is 400$ maybe $1000 budget
Your budget may barely be enough, you would need a new motherboard, psu,cpu etc. CPU plays a small part in mining so cpu speed doesn't matter unless you are mining using CPU. Buy the cheapest motherboard you can find which support your card and a cheap CPU.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
Max i can spend is 400$ maybe $1000 budget
Your budget may barely be enough, you would need a new motherboard, psu,cpu etc. CPU plays a small part in mining so cpu speed doesn't matter unless you are mining using CPU. Buy the cheapest motherboard you can find which support your card and a cheap CPU.
was thinking .... http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Traxx187/saved/y7fxFT (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Traxx187/saved/y7fxFT) or whats a good card to mine scrypt with?


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: jawitech on February 13, 2015, 06:00:33 PM
whats a good card to mine scrypt with?

No card. Scrypt is dominated by ASICs, you won't get any reasonable results with a GPU. Try GPU friendly algos and coins (X11, X13, X15, Neoscrypt).


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 13, 2015, 06:55:08 PM
whats a good card to mine scrypt with?

No card. Scrypt is dominated by ASICs, you won't get any reasonable results with a GPU. Try GPU friendly algos and coins (X11, X13, X15, Neoscrypt).
but flappycoin is scrypt?? Im confused??


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Amph on February 13, 2015, 08:45:25 PM
Very cheap for you enthusiasts maybe. For non-enthusiasts a cheap card is 50 bucks. Midrange 80, High-end 100, 120 if we want to go overkill. Not to mention always the same thing: if it's for mining, it's trashing money. If for learning, better to upgrade the whole system.

you can find it for 50 buck even new lol

750ti is very cheap

Max i can spend is 400$ maybe $1000 budget

well buy a gtx 970 then, but keep in mind that everything is not profitable right now


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: jawitech on February 14, 2015, 12:14:07 AM
whats a good card to mine scrypt with?

No card. Scrypt is dominated by ASICs, you won't get any reasonable results with a GPU. Try GPU friendly algos and coins (X11, X13, X15, Neoscrypt).
but flappycoin is scrypt?? Im confused??

Flappycoin is a scrypt coin with low difficulty and network hashrate. So yes, with such coins you'll get your share. But with a price of 40-50 litoshi per FLAP, it's not really worth the used energy (unless you have free energy). The other algos are more energy efficient than scrypt.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: ranochigo on February 14, 2015, 02:12:10 AM
whats a good card to mine scrypt with?

No card. Scrypt is dominated by ASICs, you won't get any reasonable results with a GPU. Try GPU friendly algos and coins (X11, X13, X15, Neoscrypt).
but flappycoin is scrypt?? Im confused??

Flappycoin is a scrypt coin with low difficulty and network hashrate. So yes, with such coins you'll get your share. But with a price of 40-50 litoshi per FLAP, it's not really worth the used energy (unless you have free energy). The other algos are more energy efficient than scrypt.
Scrypt produces lots and lots of heat, it stresses your GPU a lot. Even with a new GPU, an ASIC would be a far more viable choice due to the decreasing price per MH. Might not be profitable unless you have close to free electricity and the company is trusted.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 14, 2015, 03:24:34 AM
thanks everyone for helping me out!! anyone recommend any miners?? hardware lol


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: MaxDZ8 on February 14, 2015, 07:21:13 AM
Very cheap for you enthusiasts maybe. For non-enthusiasts a cheap card is 50 bucks. Midrange 80, High-end 100, 120 if we want to go overkill. Not to mention always the same thing: if it's for mining, it's trashing money. If for learning, better to upgrade the whole system.

you can find it for 50 buck even new lol

750ti is very cheap
Link please. Here's what I can get for for 50 bucks from my favourite etailer: ASUS nVidia GeForce GT 730 903Mhz 1Gib GDDR3. 64 bit bus. That's sure going to be very similar in performance. No trace of those on amazon.co.uk, but I'm sure I suck at it.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: MaxDZ8 on February 14, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
 ???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 14, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.
so only way is scrypt farm??


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: ranochigo on February 14, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.
so only way is scrypt farm??
Mining game is really out for everyone even if you invest in ASICs. There are huge farms using ASICs to mine Bitcoin. Even with new hardwares, it may become obsolete even before you ROI. Alt coins are relatively volatile so it wouldn't be a good choice too.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 14, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.
so only way is scrypt farm??
Mining game is really out for everyone even if you invest in ASICs. There are huge farms using ASICs to mine Bitcoin. Even with new hardwares, it may become obsolete even before you ROI. Alt coins are relatively volatile so it wouldn't be a good choice too.
im trying to mine flappycoins guys not high end alts


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: jawitech on February 15, 2015, 12:54:58 AM
???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.
so only way is scrypt farm??
Mining game is really out for everyone even if you invest in ASICs. There are huge farms using ASICs to mine Bitcoin. Even with new hardwares, it may become obsolete even before you ROI. Alt coins are relatively volatile so it wouldn't be a good choice too.
im trying to mine flappycoins guys not high end alts

Get some used zeus blizzard miners on eBay. The 1.3 MH/s or 3.6 MH/s models should be affordable to get.


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Bombadil on February 15, 2015, 01:20:13 AM
Mining game is really out for everyone even if you invest in ASICs. There are huge farms using ASICs to mine Bitcoin. Even with new hardwares, it may become obsolete even before you ROI. Alt coins are relatively volatile so it wouldn't be a good choice too.

The thing about hunting altcoins, is that you need GPUs. GPUs are adaptable, in contrary to ASICs. If a new algo comes out tomorrow, big chance that it will support GPUs, even from start.
ASICs become much faster obsolete that way, unlike GPUs. And even then, ASICs can only be resold as paperweight, a GPU can still find its way to a second hand gaming setup.

I don't advice anyone who is into mining for fun and hobby to invest into ASICs, they become boring before they're obsolete :P


Title: Re: a little help please ?
Post by: Hades. on February 15, 2015, 01:47:57 AM
???
Anyway, now OP has a budget and wants to go ASIC, I'd call myself out.
so only way is scrypt farm??
Mining game is really out for everyone even if you invest in ASICs. There are huge farms using ASICs to mine Bitcoin. Even with new hardwares, it may become obsolete even before you ROI. Alt coins are relatively volatile so it wouldn't be a good choice too.
im trying to mine flappycoins guys not high end alts

Get some used zeus blizzard miners on eBay. The 1.3 MH/s or 3.6 MH/s models should be affordable to get.
thanks man you helped me out!