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Title: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 17, 2015, 02:37:29 AM
About a year ago, we drew our attention to the poor efficiency of existing equipment for mining script currencies. On the basis of already existing knowledge and ideas, as well as borrowing the technology, we have started work on the development of an entirely new type of device. Main task was to achieve good indicators in power consumption. Due to the lack of funding and unwillingness to attract funding from the end user to the development process, we faced with the cruel realities in advancing the project. But the purposefulness and desire to succeed helped us to cope with the task.

And now a little about what we have achieved. The main problem that we faced - how to remove the heat from the chips. A solution was found in the liquid cooling with mineral oil. With this solution we were able to reduce not only the level of energy consumption for cooling modules, but also to reduce the noise level and the amount of heat emitted into the atmosphere. The entire cooling system is completely sealed and requires no maintenance.
Over the last month the station shows stable operating temperature. The whole system operates at a temperature of 37-42°C. Hashing power also shows stable result of 175-183Mh/s(approx. 87-92Mh/s from each module) and less than 950W of power consumption.

We have already found the manufacturer in China who will produce modules for us. All assembly will be made by our own hands. 
Few pictures:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2hyatv.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/5ml54n.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2rxd1eu.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/167tjqx.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2en5e81.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ijnngg.jpg


Our web-site is only in the development stage, but you can follow our achievements HERE (http://coldminers.com)


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: adaseb on February 17, 2015, 04:14:49 AM
LOL


SCAM!


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Prelude on February 17, 2015, 04:25:32 AM
I applaud you for going the extra mile to scam people, instead of only creating a render on your PC.

Bravo!


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 17, 2015, 09:42:31 AM
I applaud you for going the extra mile to scam people, instead of only creating a render on your PC.

Bravo!

We have gone the extra hundred miles to create that prototype.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: dmatthewstewart on February 18, 2015, 07:17:27 PM
I applaud you for going the extra mile to scam people, instead of only creating a render on your PC.

Bravo!

How can you tell its a scam? I started looking at the pics and thought "Well, big deal. How hard can it be to liquid cool a chip?" After all, my gaming rig is fully water cooled (cpu, gpu, full cover mobo, RAM) Only thing I dont water cool is my HDD. Still, Im curious to know how you knew (or know) its a scam. All of the senior members on here are always very good at sniffing these things out (I wouldnt be able to do it)


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 18, 2015, 09:47:16 PM

I don't see it being a scam just yet.  I know with my A2 miners -- the colder the room, the less wattage they use.

Also, their temporary website is showing an 85Mh/s unit (sounds like typical A2 type internals) -- using 500 watts.  If it is cooled down, then that sounds quite plausible.

I think this is quite real.  They're using already available technology and just cooling the chips down for the increased power efficiency (along with custom software).  This seems to be the way to go instead of trying to create new chips.




Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 20, 2015, 04:17:40 PM

I don't see it being a scam just yet.  I know with my A2 miners -- the colder the room, the less wattage they use.

Also, their temporary website is showing an 85Mh/s unit (sounds like typical A2 type internals) -- using 500 watts.  If it is cooled down, then that sounds quite plausible.

I think this is quite real.  They're using already available technology and just cooling the chips down for the increased power efficiency (along with custom software).  This seems to be the way to go instead of trying to create new chips.


You are 85% correct  ;) With great pleasure we add a little bit oil to the fire
Small test video (http://youtu.be/9cU6x828a_M)


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Equate on February 20, 2015, 05:29:19 PM

I don't see it being a scam just yet.  I know with my A2 miners -- the colder the room, the less wattage they use.

Also, their temporary website is showing an 85Mh/s unit (sounds like typical A2 type internals) -- using 500 watts.  If it is cooled down, then that sounds quite plausible.

I think this is quite real.  They're using already available technology and just cooling the chips down for the increased power efficiency (along with custom software).  This seems to be the way to go instead of trying to create new chips.


You are 85% correct  ;) With great pleasure we add a little bit oil to the fire
Small test video (http://youtu.be/9cU6x828a_M)

Have you decided the pricing yet ?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 20, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
Have you decided the pricing yet ?

Currently price range is set to:
- 2250$ for 85Mh/s+ single module station
- 4450$ for 175Mh/s+ double module station

Now we are testing double module station on overheat and max. possible hashrate and max. possible stable hashrate. If the results will be at least +25-35% increase in hashrate from current low temp. rate, then price range will stay at this level. If not, then we will consider about lowering the prices.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 20, 2015, 06:23:24 PM

Trying to see how this will save one money (over typical A2 miners already out for about $1k) at that type of pricing?



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: notlist3d on February 21, 2015, 07:36:49 AM

Trying to see how this will save one money (over typical A2 miners already out for about $1k) at that type of pricing?



They have the estimated power close to a 90 A2.   Is this using A2 chips and they are just liquid cooled?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 21, 2015, 12:16:42 PM

Trying to see how this will save one money (over typical A2 miners already out for about $1k) at that type of pricing?



They have the estimated power close to a 90 A2.   Is this using A2 chips and they are just liquid cooled?

Yes, this one is running on the A2 chips.

Latest test has shown impossibility of increasing the hashrate, so till Monday we will consider about lowered price range. Those who has already made an order will get refund of the price difference.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 21, 2015, 02:49:10 PM
Price range will be lowered to:
- $3300 for 175Mh/s+ miner version
- $1650 for 85Mh/s+ miner version

Added option to build your own miner.
Prices for basic miners:
- $1025 for 85Mh/s+
- $2590 for 175Mh/s+

This is the lowest price that we can offer. Otherwise production of these miners becomes unprofitable.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on February 21, 2015, 05:19:11 PM
Have you sent a miner to Dogie?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 22, 2015, 08:36:03 AM

Ok - so your cooling solution just lowers the power consumption of an A2 miner?  What is the power rating for 85Mh/s?  Noise level?



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 22, 2015, 03:39:39 PM

Ok - so your cooling solution just lowers the power consumption of an A2 miner?  What is the power rating for 85Mh/s?  Noise level?


Noise level ~22-23dB
Power rating: 450-500W



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: atp1916 on February 23, 2015, 03:10:29 PM
OP,
You will need to ship review units out to trusted members of this forum so they can give their impressions.  Your pictures / explanation leave very much to the imagination.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on February 23, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
OP,
You will need to ship review units out to trusted members of this forum so they can give their impressions.  Your pictures / explanation leave very much to the imagination.

This is what I was getting at.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on February 24, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 24, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015

Where is your company located?



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on February 24, 2015, 06:52:06 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015

No offense, but that is not the same as giving a machine to a few trusted members such as Dogie for review.  Offering a coupon may seem like a good way to get a few out into the wild, but your still requiring people to send you money up front, which we all know never goes well.  Please reconsider asking someone to write up a review of a unit and I guarantee you will make more profit from being a trusted seller than the expense it would cost to give that unit away.

EDIT: I just watched the video and looked at your pictures, and again no offense, but there is nothing concrete there that shows a unit actually working.  Most people can make a case like that and have something flash on a screen with little to no effort.  I am not calling you a scam, but we have seen these things over and over again with fictitious products.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on February 24, 2015, 08:33:32 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015

No offense, but that is not the same as giving a machine to a few trusted members such as Dogie for review.  Offering a coupon may seem like a good way to get a few out into the wild, but your still requiring people to send you money up front, which we all know never goes well.  Please reconsider asking someone to write up a review of a unit and I guarantee you will make more profit from being a trusted seller than the expense it would cost to give that unit away.

EDIT: I just watched the video and looked at your pictures, and again no offense, but there is nothing concrete there that shows a unit actually working.  Most people can make a case like that and have something flash on a screen with little to no effort.  I am not calling you a scam, but we have seen these things over and over again with fictitious products.

A thousand times this.

1) Send a unit to dogie (or another reputable member - though dogie is arguably the best) for review
2) Show PROOF of mining
3) Escrow

There is no reason to NOT do this since you would profit. If you're able to sell five units at a 50% discount then you can do the above steps.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 24, 2015, 09:07:42 PM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on February 25, 2015, 12:40:13 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 25, 2015, 02:47:56 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: giveen on February 25, 2015, 03:04:23 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



I kinda agree, returning them removes the pressure to provide positive reviews for a "gift"


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on February 25, 2015, 04:26:26 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



I kinda agree, returning them removes the pressure to provide positive reviews for a "gift"

I don't know what to tell you guys, that's the way it works around here.  Perhaps when you spend some more time around, you will understand the need and necessity of having trusted members and the value they bring to this community.  This thread is full of asking for proof that these things exist, the best way is what I have outlined (noticed how I wasn't even asking for them to choose me), they posted pictures and video that I have already said are not conclusive, so unless you have any other ideas on what they can do, that is the best and most transparent way.  I also said that they could of course work out a different deal with someone to test the unit, but speaking personally, I believe a free test unit is the most fair compensation for the time and service it would take to do the tests.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: notlist3d on February 25, 2015, 04:41:21 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



I kinda agree, returning them removes the pressure to provide positive reviews for a "gift"

It all comes down to the reviewer. You really put your name on the line with the review so you want to be accurate.  If you say it's great and it goes out and is not.... does not make you look to good.

But from what I see I doubt we will see a reviewer.   I don't see this being a big batch of miners.   It is still using the A2 chip so it is a good chip, but nothing new.  The new thing is to add water to it but this will make it more expensive.  So you will be able to get old A2's (air cooled) for cheaper.

Are you able to tell us how many you are making in this batch?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 25, 2015, 04:42:59 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



I kinda agree, returning them removes the pressure to provide positive reviews for a "gift"

I don't know what to tell you guys, that's the way it works around here.  Perhaps when you spend some more time around, you will understand the need and necessity of having trusted members and the value they bring to this community.  This thread is full of asking for proof that these things exist, the best way is what I have outlined (noticed how I wasn't even asking for them to choose me), they posted pictures and video that I have already said are not conclusive, so unless you have any other ideas on what they can do, that is the best and most transparent way.  I also said that they could of course work out a different deal with someone to test the unit, but speaking personally, I believe a free test unit is the most fair compensation for the time and service it would take to do the tests.

"That's the way it works around here."  Sounds very old skool - LOL.  I'm sorry but perhaps times are changing.

There have been so many cloud mining scams, etc. -- I'm not sure anyone really trusts anyone on here anymore -- no matter if it says "Legendary" or "Senior" or whatever.  



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on February 25, 2015, 04:51:07 AM

So does the tester return the item back to the manufacturer after a week?



Usually its a gift from the company to the person for proving that they are real and writing a review and how to guide for the unit, of course every deal is different and will have to be determined with the person asked to review the unit.

LOL - Ah I see.  No wonder there is so much pressure to send the product to prove it is legit.  LOL

It is one thing to just test the item and return it (with the manufacturer covering all costs) -- it is another thing if the tester expects to keep the item.  Kind of a conflict of interest.



I kinda agree, returning them removes the pressure to provide positive reviews for a "gift"

I don't know what to tell you guys, that's the way it works around here.  Perhaps when you spend some more time around, you will understand the need and necessity of having trusted members and the value they bring to this community.  This thread is full of asking for proof that these things exist, the best way is what I have outlined (noticed how I wasn't even asking for them to choose me), they posted pictures and video that I have already said are not conclusive, so unless you have any other ideas on what they can do, that is the best and most transparent way.  I also said that they could of course work out a different deal with someone to test the unit, but speaking personally, I believe a free test unit is the most fair compensation for the time and service it would take to do the tests.

"That's the way it works around here."  Sounds very old skool - LOL.  I'm sorry but perhaps times are changing.

There have been so many cloud mining scams, etc. -- I'm not sure anyone really trusts anyone on here anymore -- no matter if it says "Legendary" or "Senior" or whatever.  



Sigh your trolling is starting to get on my nerves.  I am sitting here telling them how to gain trust, and instead of adding intellectual ideas on what can be done differently, you are just stating the reason we need reviewers in the first place.  Seriously, read your comment, you say times are a changin, but then quickly say there are too many scams.  Direct contradiction on yourself, then you fail to bring up any new ideas.  Congrats on joining my ignore list for wasting everyones time.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on February 25, 2015, 07:15:59 AM

Wow - someone is grumpy.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on February 25, 2015, 04:53:38 PM

Wow - someone is grumpy.



He isn't grumpy, he's just correct.

Spend more time around here before telling someone who knows more than you how things work.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: madmartyk on February 27, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015

Where is your company located?



You never answered this?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Scooby903 on February 27, 2015, 08:15:59 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

Promo coupon information:
Code: Promo-50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Promo start date: 25/02/2015
Promo end date: 01/03/2015

Where is your company located?



You never answered this?

Given the date format, I'd say they aren't located in the USA


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 01, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
Given the date format, I'd say they aren't located in the USA

You are correct - not USA. Ukraine.

Few updates for today:
- We have started Batch 2
- Affiliate commission was raised from 2% to 4%
- Website development has moved to the final stage.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: jamesdeng on March 02, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
Given the date format, I'd say they aren't located in the USA

You are correct - not USA. Ukraine.

Few updates for today:
- We have started Batch 2
- Affiliate commission was raised from 2% to 4%
- Website development has moved to the final stage.

Post out some pictures please .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ssateneth on March 02, 2015, 10:57:17 AM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on March 02, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.

It could be as easy as the fact that the units don't exist.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Prelude on March 03, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.

It could be as easy as the fact that the units don't exist.

Winner winner chicken dinner.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Mikestang on March 03, 2015, 07:25:34 AM
I will trade you a bridge for one.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 04, 2015, 08:26:31 PM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.

Water conducts electricity, while mineral oil - no. For better cooling boards were completely submerged in oil. By this managed to achieve not only good cooling of the chips, but also cooling of the other board components.


Update 04/03/2015:
- Testing PayPal payment gateway(will be available as additional payment method in 1-2 days)


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 04, 2015, 09:45:52 PM

I'm not sure why people think this is fiction -- just check it out at this link:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Mineral-Oil-Submerged-PC/

I guess the question is how is the heat dissipated?  Or maybe this was already answered.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on March 04, 2015, 09:49:41 PM

I'm not sure why people think this is fiction -- just check it out at this link:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Mineral-Oil-Submerged-PC/

I guess the question is how is the heat dissipated?  Or maybe this was already answered.



I don't think anyone has said it is fiction because they claim to use water cooling.  People are saying it is fiction because it is a brand new account hawking high dollar value products, and using an irreversible payment method while showing little to no proof that they actually claim to have said product.

That being said, the fact they are offering paypal as a payment method is a little better, at least people could recover their money if they don't receive a product.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 04, 2015, 09:55:08 PM

I would hope at this point, with all of the scams that have happened, that people would only purchase an item using Paypal or credit card.  If those options are not offered, then pass on the product.

Hopefully people will use common sense?  If they don't -- then it is their own fault.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 04, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.

I don't understand why people can't spend 30 seconds on Google to answer their question.  I found a great article about how oil is perfect for cooling off circuit boards.

https://www.nsa.gov/research/tnw/tnw202/article4.shtml

In summary it says:

Quote
Unfortunately, we cannot dunk a computer in water like a burnt finger since electricity and water do not play well together. Mineral oil, on the other hand, has been used by electric utilities to cool electrical power distribution equipment, such as transformers and circuit breakers, for over 100 years. Mineral oil only has about 40% of the heat holding capacity and about one quarter the thermal conductivity of water, but it has one huge advantage over water—it is an electrical insulator. This means that electrical devices can operate while submerged in oil without shorting out.

While mineral oil does not have the heat capacity of water, it still holds over 1,000 times more heat than air. This means that the server rack discussed earlier that needed 1,200 CFM of air to keep from burning up could be kept cool with just about 1 CFM of oil. The energy required to pump 1 CFM of oil is dramatically less than the energy required to blow 1,200 CFM of air. In a perfectly designed data center, where the amount of air blown or oil pumped is matched exactly to the heat load, the energy required to blow air is five times that required to pump oil for the same amount of heat removed. In reality, the amount of air moved through a data center is far more than that required to satisfy the load. This is due to the fact that not all of the air blown into a data center passes through a computer before it returns to the CRAC unit. Since the air is not ducted directly to the computers' air intakes, it is free to find its own path back to the CRAC unit, which is frequently over, around, or otherwise not through a server rack. As we will soon see, it is much easier to direct the path of oil and to pump just the right amount of oil to satisfy a given computer heat load. Thus, the energy required to circulate oil can be more than 10 times less than the energy required to circulate air.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: rammy2k2 on March 04, 2015, 11:46:47 PM
do NOT send any money upfront to these people !


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 04, 2015, 11:49:48 PM
do NOT send any money upfront to these people !


If this company already has a bad reputation, then hopefully a more legitimate company can use the same technology and provide a product to the public.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on March 04, 2015, 11:57:37 PM
do NOT send any money upfront to these people !


If this company already has a bad reputation, then hopefully a more legitimate company can use the same technology and provide a product to the public.



This "company" has NO reputation, and doesn't accept escrow. Hoping for a legitimate company as well.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 04, 2015, 11:59:49 PM

Well maybe they will come through with their Paypal option.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on March 05, 2015, 12:03:37 AM

Well maybe they will come through with their Paypal option.


Awesome! Then we can tie up our money in Paypal for no reason than to get our money back when they fail to deliver. That's way better than sending a one time payment to escrow and dealing with a single person if something goes wrong. I love customer support, because that 100% protects me!

The crypto world is full of scams for a reason.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 05, 2015, 03:10:44 AM

Wow - I'm sensing a trend on this forum.  A lot of the Senior Folks seem quite bitter in general.

Ok right right -- I know..

1.  BTC is not at a $1k

2.  And yes ASICs killed the whole mining movement

3.  And yes we've all been scammed by some hardware company at one time or another

4.  And yes some of us fell for ponzi cloud mining and got scammed

But despite all of this -- take some happy pills or refrain from responding to everything in a negative way.  This whole forum is just full of negativity and just a bunch of rude people.  A bunch of sour and bitter people.

You can say you'll now "ignore me" or that I'm "spreading FUD" or that "I'm trolling" or whatever weird term you want to use -- but try not to shoot down everything.

Yes - I'm sure there are a lot of scams out there and everyone by now should know not to send money to some unknown company (without protections) -- but maybe maybe there are still some good ideas and potential companies out there.  

Yes - I know this company has a good chance of being a scam (especially since they are not willing to send some senior person on here a unit for free - to keep), but there is a slight chance that maybe it is just a group of people trying to create a new product.  Time will tell.

I guess on here you are guilty until proven innocent.  LOL





Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: nsimmons on March 05, 2015, 04:53:00 AM

Wow - I'm sensing a trend on this forum.  A lot of the Senior Folks seem quite bitter in general.

Ok right right -- I know..

1.  BTC is not at a $1k

2.  And yes ASICs killed the whole mining movement

3.  And yes we've all been scammed by some hardware company at one time or another

4.  And yes some of us fell for ponzi cloud mining and got scammed

But despite all of this -- take some happy pills or refrain from responding to everything in a negative way.  This whole forum is just full of negativity and just a bunch of rude people.  A bunch of sour and bitter people.

You can say you'll now "ignore me" or that I'm "spreading FUD" or that "I'm trolling" or whatever weird term you want to use -- but try not to shoot down everything.

Yes - I'm sure there are a lot of scams out there and everyone by now should know not to send money to some unknown company (without protections) -- but maybe maybe there are still some good ideas and potential companies out there.  

Yes - I know this company has a good chance of being a scam (especially since they are not willing to send some senior person on here a unit for free - to keep), but there is a slight chance that maybe it is just a group of people trying to create a new product.  Time will tell.

I guess on here you are guilty until proven innocent.  LOL





http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/naive


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 05, 2015, 06:05:08 AM

Hmm - my post is labeled naive -- or that I am "showing a lack of experience, judgement" -- or I am "unsophisticated or ingenuous."

Really?  Is that what my posts indicate to you?

That's a shame.

The "elders" of this forum need to lighten up. 

Yes - most things on this forum are scams, but that doesn't give one the reason to shoot down a good idea.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on March 05, 2015, 01:34:17 PM

Hmm - my post is labeled naive -- or that I am "showing a lack of experience, judgement" -- or I am "unsophisticated or ingenuous."

Really?  Is that what my posts indicate to you?

That's a shame.

The "elders" of this forum need to lighten up. 

Yes - most things on this forum are scams, but that doesn't give one the reason to shoot down a good idea.



Nobody is shooting down a good idea. We are just not supportive of bad habits. If you think this will work so well, then just wait and let them prove it.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Rabinovitch on March 05, 2015, 02:44:26 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

To celebrate this you better send one unit to one of us here...


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 05, 2015, 04:55:38 PM
Coldminers are happy to announce that we are almost done with the first batch. To celebrate this together with all miners - we have issued promo coupons.

To celebrate this you better send one unit to one of us here...

LOL - You better.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: MinerFTW on March 05, 2015, 07:32:56 PM
looks nice but thats it.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: atp1916 on March 08, 2015, 01:52:55 PM
Batch 1 got bought up already??  I don't believe it one bit.


I've had notions of setting up an ASIC hardware review site that verifies and validates companies and their units in the same manner your average tech hardware review site samples general purpose hardware.  

Anyone else shared these aspirations?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: locohammerhead on March 08, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
I go buy the sediment no reviews, no ship dates, no ASICs.  Also 2200 for 85 MH/s is WAY to expensive for this market.  If you shop around you can still find A2 Terminators at 110MH/s for 1250 USD.

I think everybody expressing concerns is 100% warranted and have the right to be overtly skeptical until we see real evidence.  Review sets should be shipped out to trusted members for reviews and escrow, Skrill, Paypal (eww) should be used as well.  Refusing to do show just helps peoples notions that it is a scam.

Hopefully it's not, we need more manufacturers in scrypt ASICs but until I see actual proof they are not vapor-ware, I will hold my breath.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: locohammerhead on March 08, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
Batch 1 got bought up already??  I don't believe it one bit.


I've had notions of setting up an ASIC hardware review site that verifies and validates companies and their units in the same manner your average tech hardware review site samples general purpose hardware.  

Anyone else shared these aspirations?

I would be more than happy to help you out in this endeavor.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 16, 2015, 08:08:33 AM
Quote
Batch 1 got bought up already??

First batch was only 35 units.

Quote
Also 2200 for 85 MH/s is WAY to expensive for this market

$2200 was the starting price we planned to sell for. At the start of the sales price dropped to $1650. Currently we are running 10% discount to close our second batch as fast as possible so buyers won't need to wait extra time.


Update 16/03/2015: 10% discount for all units of the second batch.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 16, 2015, 07:13:03 PM
Quote
Batch 1 got bought up already??

First batch was only 35 units.

Quote
Also 2200 for 85 MH/s is WAY to expensive for this market

$2200 was the starting price we planned to sell for. At the start of the sales price dropped to $1650. Currently we are running 10% discount to close our second batch as fast as possible so buyers won't need to wait extra time.


Update 16/03/2015: 10% discount for all units of the second batch.


still cost to much you can buy 6 sha256 miner for the price you want for one of these at 2200  maybe a little more and make out better.


why not send one out, all the big guys do and don't expect any thing back for reviews ? .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: ncsupanda on March 16, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
I'm more interested in seeing notes from the "first batch."

How do we know they were even sold? There aren't any pictures of production nor any user feedback.

If 35 units were sold at this high price then why haven't we seen proof at all?


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 17, 2015, 07:46:08 PM
I'm more interested in seeing notes from the "first batch."

How do we know they were even sold? There aren't any pictures of production nor any user feedback.

If 35 units were sold at this high price then why haven't we seen proof at all?


I look at it that way to,+ if you can not afford to send off a few demos for nice reviews and not want them back, there is some thing wrong some place. your either over extended in costs or your main goal is to steal what you can .



Prove US wrong :) .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 17, 2015, 07:59:34 PM

Isn't it typical that when someone reviews a product, they then ship it back to the company (at the company's expense)?

When the first BFL unit came out -- I remember reading the article on CNet I believe -- and they were given a test unit to review (but had to give it back in the end).

Now if the company is unwilling to send a unit for review (for say 30 days) -- with the expectation they are to receive it back -- then I do see an issue. 

This is just a custom cooling solution.  Of course they are going to sell small numbers.  It is not like they have special chips made.  They are using currently available product to produce a better product.

I'll be glad to review a unit.  PM me.  I don't expect to keep it - but if I like it -- I would consider purchasing it.  :-)  Just make sure you provide the means to ship it back at your expense.

My company produces TV commercials -- so we can open it up in a professional studio using professional cameras and lighting.  Not some jerky iPhone camera or even worse just stills.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 17, 2015, 08:25:30 PM

Isn't it typical that when someone reviews a product, they then ship it back to the company (at the company's expense)?

When the first BFL unit came out -- I remember reading the article on CNet I believe -- and they were given a test unit to review (but had to give it back in the end).

Now if the company is unwilling to send a unit for review (for say 30 days) -- with the expectation they are to receive it back -- then I do see an issue.  

This is just a custom cooling solution.  Of course they are going to sell small numbers.  It is not like they have special chips made.  They are using currently available product to produce a better product.

I'll be glad to review a unit.  PM me.  I don't expect to keep it - but if I like it -- I would consider purchasing it.  :-)  Just make sure you provide the means to ship it back at your expense.

My company produces TV commercials -- so we can open it up in a professional studio using professional cameras and lighting.  Not some jerky iPhone camera or even worse just stills.




really any thing i have ever reviewed was mine to keep trust me ive done a lot of reviews and testing for company's in surveys and other stuff still do that news to me . unless its a product that's all ready on the market they want to test some thing else for that product then i may have to return it but every survey or test i have ever done with any kind of demo that was my reward for doing the the survey review and testing. no matter what its been tv PC tooth paste etc it does not matter what the product is. even these .


Then why does bitmain Spondoolies-Tech  Avalon some of them do it you don't even know till it's  done ?. I am sorry ihave to disagree i know diff it does not cost them 2 k to make the dam thing to start  most of that 2 k is nothing but profit. That's the best PR you can do any place send out the finished product no mater what it is . if you noticed all so the ones that do in fact  send out Demos are still doing it at  reasonable prices etc .


all the ADMIN are doing it making sure no one is ripped off . if you trust it that much buy into it :?) .


I don't see what the big deal is about it.  Keeping a product adds bias to your review


in some cases this may be true but from what Ive seen from all of  dogs reviews, none of them are bias he only gives the facts in the reviews he will in fact tell you in that review if its a bad buy, to loud etc . , some of his comments are  but the facts and the reviews are not from what Ive seen


Ive heard of cars being offered as demos they could keep for there time to test it, i have yet to be that lucky. time is not free either . in fact nothing is free even the gift of life is not free just using that thing about life as a example before any one jumps all over me for saying it.


every thing has a cost some place a long the way , and reviews cost time  :) .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 17, 2015, 08:32:40 PM

I don't see what the big deal is about it.  Keeping a product adds bias to your review.

Sure - I've seen people on small ticket items keep the product -- but when they are expensive items - keeping it is not the norm.

Now of course - the heavy weights will chime in here any second and go -- "We keep the item we review.  This is the way it has always been and always will be done.  And so it is!"  LOL  Funny.  Go find your freebies elsewhere.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: monsterx on March 18, 2015, 09:25:54 PM
Saw one on ebay but haven't found any review or additional information.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 23, 2015, 02:56:12 PM
1 week pre-launch discount coupon for cloud mining contracts.

Pre-launch coupon information:
Code: BtcLtcTalk
Discount amount: 25%
Amount of coupons issued: 10
Start date: 23/03/2015
End date: 29/03/2015


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: stasis-crypto on March 23, 2015, 08:22:36 PM
Why would you use oil as the liquid though? Why not water? It's free, and has better heat capacitance.

It could be as easy as the fact that the units don't exist.

Ooh! That's a zinger right there. I'll be pretty open to paying via PayPal if that's an option, though. God knows when I was a seller using it, the buyers always got their way. Even if it's a scam, at worst I'll get my money back, which is all I really care about. If I do get a working product that's just a bonus.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 24, 2015, 08:05:03 AM
may be this is real  one for sell on Ebay for batch one ready to ship


http://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-IceCube-175MH-S-scrypt-mining-rig-READY-TO-SHIP/261812606100?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D1dfbd09571e64ed5b3412f79d8747f55%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D111622378235



still cost to much compared to a S5 or SP20 i know there bitcoin miner but in the end you trade up Script coins for BTC :) .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 24, 2015, 10:52:41 AM
Second batch is almost completed. We decided to launch 50% discount for last 5 units as we did it for the first batch.

2nd batch end discount coupon:
Code: 2batch50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Start date: 24/03/2015
End date: 30/03/2015


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on March 24, 2015, 12:33:15 PM
Second batch is almost completed. We decided to launch 50% discount for last 5 units as we did it for the first batch.

2nd batch end discount coupon:
Code: 2batch50
Discount amount: 50%
Amount of coupons issued: 5
Start date: 24/03/2015
End date: 30/03/2015

Boy that is suspicion.  I would advise caution as I am losing trust in this company.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: stasis-crypto on March 24, 2015, 02:40:23 PM
Why is this suspicious? I'm curious, as it just seems to be a promotion of sorts.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on March 24, 2015, 02:46:09 PM
Why is this suspicious? I'm curious, as it just seems to be a promotion of sorts.

They have been offering promotions for both, "batches", but I have yet to see anyone post that they have bought a unit or received a unit, despite claims that the first batch has been sold out, and this one is almost sold out.

It sounds like they are saying batches are almost sold out to make it sound like a, "Last Chance" type of deal, get yours before they are gone, but there really is no proof that these exist, and no one claiming they do from the previous batch.

Also, they apparently refuse to get them reviewed, which would only cost them one unit, but instead are able to offer a 50% discount on 5 units, which would be equivalent of 2.5 units being given away, when, once a verified member reports these as real, they shouldn't have a problem selling them at full price.

These things lead me to call them suspicious.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Scooby903 on March 24, 2015, 05:28:45 PM
Why is this suspicious? I'm curious, as it just seems to be a promotion of sorts.

They have been offering promotions for both, "batches", but I have yet to see anyone post that they have bought a unit or received a unit, despite claims that the first batch has been sold out, and this one is almost sold out.

It sounds like they are saying batches are almost sold out to make it sound like a, "Last Chance" type of deal, get yours before they are gone, but there really is no proof that these exist, and no one claiming they do from the previous batch.

Also, they apparently refuse to get them reviewed, which would only cost them one unit, but instead are able to offer a 50% discount on 5 units, which would be equivalent of 2.5 units being given away, when, once a verified member reports these as real, they shouldn't have a problem selling them at full price.

These things lead me to call them suspicious.

Yep, they are full of shit!


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on March 24, 2015, 05:57:47 PM

Here we go again with the elders…



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Scooby903 on March 24, 2015, 06:14:37 PM

Here we go again with the elders…



 ;D with experience comes wisdom, my son


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: DebitMe on March 24, 2015, 07:26:31 PM

Here we go again with the elders…



I hope you don't feel too bad when someone buys one of these units because they thought you were, "standing up for the little guy", and they lose all their money.  Again, your not dispelling or responding to any of my opinions, which is all they are, but simply following it up with nonsense and foolishness.  You are free to share your opinion on why they should be trusted (I have shown my opinion the other way), but you have yet to do that.  So please, explain why you think they should be trusted.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: monsterx on March 24, 2015, 08:33:49 PM
I have read through this topic several times... A little confusing situation...

What kind of proof you want more? For me wasn't enough only few pics, video in shitty quality and a listing on ebay to buy one of these units for full price. I'm interested in much more information(i have looked through the most part of companies and this lack of information has 60% of these companies). But to purchase one of these for half price - is more than enough. I'm considering to order the cheapest one. If this is SHIT I'll loose only 500$. Only than I'll be able to tell that it's a scam.

Quote
They have been offering promotions for both, "batches", but I have yet to see anyone post that they have bought a unit or received a unit, despite claims that the first batch has been sold out, and this one is almost sold out.

As I understand there are more than 5 000 000 crypto users all over the world. They claim that have sold(and as stated on their website shipped) first batch of 35 units. Do the math and you will get the answer.

P.S. I don't trust anybody and I'm not sure that these units really exists but here I must agree with hdmediaservices about the sick skepsis of the elder users. We all have lost something on scams but sometimes there are really good opportunity between these scams but everybody is scared.

P.P.S. I will... I don't know what I will do if this is SHIT and I have taken their side...


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Mikestang on March 24, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
may be this is real  one for sell on Ebay for batch one ready to ship


http://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-IceCube-175MH-S-scrypt-mining-rig-READY-TO-SHIP/261812606100?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D1dfbd09571e64ed5b3412f79d8747f55%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D111622378235



still cost to much compared to a S5 or SP20 i know there bitcoin miner but in the end you trade up Script coins for BTC :) .

ROFL, if you believe that box is a real miner I've got a bridge to sell you.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: monsterx on March 24, 2015, 09:40:20 PM
may be this is real  one for sell on Ebay for batch one ready to ship


http://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-IceCube-175MH-S-scrypt-mining-rig-READY-TO-SHIP/261812606100?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D1dfbd09571e64ed5b3412f79d8747f55%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D111622378235



still cost to much compared to a S5 or SP20 i know there bitcoin miner but in the end you trade up Script coins for BTC :) .

ROFL, if you believe that box is a real miner I've got a bridge to sell you.

I agree, but at the same time I don't see anything serious not to believe to...


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Mikestang on March 24, 2015, 10:22:07 PM

I agree, but at the same time I don't see anything serious not to believe to...

Then you're not paying attention.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on March 25, 2015, 09:42:02 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: atp1916 on March 26, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2w3aqut.jpg


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: nsimmons on March 27, 2015, 05:29:17 PM
I have read through this topic several times... A little confusing situation...

What kind of proof you want more? For me wasn't enough only few pics, video in shitty quality and a listing on ebay to buy one of these units for full price. I'm interested in much more information(i have looked through the most part of companies and this lack of information has 60% of these companies). But to purchase one of these for half price - is more than enough. I'm considering to order the cheapest one. If this is SHIT I'll loose only 500$. Only than I'll be able to tell that it's a scam.

Quote
They have been offering promotions for both, "batches", but I have yet to see anyone post that they have bought a unit or received a unit, despite claims that the first batch has been sold out, and this one is almost sold out.

As I understand there are more than 5 000 000 crypto users all over the world. They claim that have sold(and as stated on their website shipped) first batch of 35 units. Do the math and you will get the answer.

P.S. I don't trust anybody and I'm not sure that these units really exists but here I must agree with hdmediaservices about the sick skepsis of the elder users. We all have lost something on scams but sometimes there are really good opportunity between these scams but everybody is scared.

P.P.S. I will... I don't know what I will do if this is SHIT and I have taken their side...

Speak for yourself. When did naivety and stupidity become virtues. Elders...I'm 35. jesus christ.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 27, 2015, 10:02:50 PM
may be this is real  one for sell on Ebay for batch one ready to ship


http://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-IceCube-175MH-S-scrypt-mining-rig-READY-TO-SHIP/261812606100?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D1dfbd09571e64ed5b3412f79d8747f55%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D111622378235



still cost to much compared to a S5 or SP20 i know there bitcoin miner but in the end you trade up Script coins for BTC :) .

ROFL, if you believe that box is a real miner I've got a bridge to sell you.


I don't  believe it, guess you missed what I said above i won't buy it either way uses to much power .


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on March 27, 2015, 10:04:47 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.



LMAO ,I guess they got a few orders and got out the game before it was to late .





Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: Prelude on March 28, 2015, 02:05:35 AM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.



LMAO ,I guess they got a few orders and got out the game before it was to late .





I really hope no one was dumb enough to preorder one of these. If so, you deserve losing the money you sent them.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on April 09, 2015, 03:18:45 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.



LMAO ,I guess they got a few orders and got out the game before it was to late .




No way, we are still in the game. We have already moved to another server but still having problems with the website. We have already launched our cloud mining service and those who has pre-ordered mining contract received their account details and are mining already. 

We have closed our second batch and are shipping them now. Release of the third batch is planned on the end of Q3(better units, better prices, no pre-orders).

Website launch date moved to 13/04/2015


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: djm34 on April 09, 2015, 03:29:50 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.



LMAO ,I guess they got a few orders and got out the game before it was to late .




No way, we are still in the game. We have already moved to another server but still having problems with the website. We have already launched our cloud mining service and those who has pre-ordered mining contract received their account details and are mining already.  

We have closed our second batch and are shipping them now. Release of the third batch is planned on the end of Q3(better units, better prices, no pre-orders).

Website launch date moved to 13/04/2015
Since they launched their "cloud mining" service, I guess we can call that already a scam and move on...  ;D
like every other ponzi mining company...


cloud mining = selling share of hardware we don't have but some might expect we have while nobody can't verify if we really have them




Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: hdmediaservices on April 09, 2015, 06:42:31 PM

I completely agree.  Cloud mining is Ponzi Mining -- SCAM SCAM SCAM.



Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: toptekk on April 11, 2015, 09:55:19 PM
UPDATE:To prevent useless talking we would like to inform that our shop and website may be offline for 2-3 days. Due these days we will move to another server and try to set up our new website. We will do our best to end it all till Monday.



LMAO ,I guess they got a few orders and got out the game before it was to late .




No way, we are still in the game. We have already moved to another server but still having problems with the website. We have already launched our cloud mining service and those who has pre-ordered mining contract received their account details and are mining already.  

We have closed our second batch and are shipping them now. Release of the third batch is planned on the end of Q3(better units, better prices, no pre-orders).

Website launch date moved to 13/04/2015
Since they launched their "cloud mining" service, I guess we can call that already a scam and move on...  ;D
like every other ponzi mining company...


cloud mining = selling share of hardware we don't have but some might expect we have while nobody can't verify if we really have them





Question :  does any one actually  have one of these yet ?

  Please be honest !!!.


hehe, Zeus all over again take a few orders make it sound good  then get some big time inverters then one day tell everyone we don't make miners or make miners at all any more ( which was a lie just not for the public)  so that GEN 3 won't be coming but we will refund you or you can buy our cloud mining.


 which is not doing to well and they have yet to pay off a few of the trusting inverters and keep stringing them a long. There is a post on the LTC forums about some who are still waiting for that refund or hosted  hardware to be at there door.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: kimosan on April 13, 2015, 03:12:47 PM
Why argue with the shill accounts itt?

They've opened a cloud mining op now...


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: atp1916 on April 13, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
This fellow/company may indeed have built a miner, but the problem is supplying the demand.  

People put in hundreds of units on pre-orders, and all of the sudden it goes BFL in no time because the company doesn't have the supply chain / manufacturing capacity.  The fact these guys use an existing Scrypt chip is nice and likely means they do indeed have (a) working unit(s), but that doesn't mean at all they can actually deliver their product. 

Them going cloud mining is a sign of inability to deliver actual units to customers.  Watch out!


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: coldminers on April 13, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
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Them going cloud mining is a sign of inability to deliver actual units to customers.

It was stated from the beginning that cloud mining services will be offered. Also we haven't stopped development of the hardware. We have stopped sales of the unwanted and possibly unprofitable and expensive units with high power consumption. As I have mentioned earlier, new batch of units will see light approximately on Q3/Q4 if everything goes well. Problem is not in the delivery - problem is in the end user interest. We have closed second batch with lack of 2 units(88 out of 90) to ship in-time.


Title: Re: Script asic miners - Fully liquid cooled 175Mh/s+ rig.
Post by: djm34 on April 14, 2015, 02:29:27 AM
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Them going cloud mining is a sign of inability to deliver actual units to customers.

It was stated from the beginning that cloud mining services will be offered. Also we haven't stopped development of the hardware. We have stopped sales of the unwanted and possibly unprofitable and expensive units with high power consumption. As I have mentioned earlier, new batch of units will see light approximately on Q3/Q4 if everything goes well. Problem is not in the delivery - problem is in the end user interest. We have closed second batch with lack of 2 units(88 out of 90) to ship in-time.

so your cloud mining use your "unprofitable hardware"  ;D and you will be able to make magically profit with it ? (or may-be you plan to go the Josh Garza way and not pay your electricity bill  ;D)
or is it the hardware you won't have before Q3/Q4 that you are using for your cloud mining operation.

Actually what you say makes no sense, either you have plenty of hardware and you can make a cloud mining operation (but it still have to be profitable) either you don't have hardware because it won't be there before Q3/Q4 and you can't have a cloud mining operation...

this is a difficult choice...  ;D

and again you are completely ignoring all the messages (here or on litecointalk) asking you to show a proof that you have what you say.
and it shouldn't be very difficult to show that. So far you showed only one white box which looks to me as a prototype (... and I am being nice)

we never saw more even though have produced a batch of 200, (you must at least unpack them to test them) so a few photos that they exist is easy.

Since you are now in the cloud mining business: it should be even more easy to show an array of those things in operation.

well... still nothing, no photo and my comment will probably be ignored  ;D