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... yet another pirate thread.

This is not meant to debate anything, but to answer a simple question. Who here has direct knowledge to the identity of pirateat40?

If you looked him up on Google, it doesn't count.
If he sent you a photo ID and a passport, it doesn't count.

It only counts if you have met him in person. I know some members of the forum have. Who are they?

you wana be ready when he tries to take all the bitcoins and run?

I am not exposed to / invested in pirate.

I assume you are familiar with Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91252.0;topicseen) where some people report having met him?

Thanks.

I've seen the thread, don't remember exactly who said what, and I thought it would be a good idea to concentrate the (short?) list of people here. If nobody answers then I'll go & review that thread again, if needed.

I have a thought :)



Dread Pirate Roberts is SR's admin dude...



Pirateat40 is the same guy :)  SR brings in tons of profit, enough to pay the interest he's offering..... :)

 I met him downtown recently:

 http://i50.tinypic.com/161ntz5.jpg

From the left:

1.
2. OneFixt
3.
4. gigavps
5.
6.
7. reeses
8. pirate
9. goat
10.

Bernanke and Satoshi at the little table in the background.

Does anyone want to fill in the rest?

quoting.

I had the exact same idea. It would explain the odd correlation of this address (https://blockchain.info/address/1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM) to both entities (pointed out by taint analysis):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94675.100

Also the fact, that pirate claimed on IRC to have moved the market on the 17th of July "for the first time" in which 70k BTC were sold, just before that (some minutes/hours before) 70k were withdrawn from that address, for the first time.

Now the similar names of both heads of the operation.

Things add up, he can now effectively mix bitcoins used for buying drugs with those invested into his BS&T or his Gigamining operation.

--> I have to post this in some dedicated thread, sorry to pollute yours ripper234!

If he is not the one running SR he could simply be running its mixer.

I think he is Dread Pirate Roberts......... Same dude..... most people in their early 30's think money and drugs are great :)

pirateat40 is not from silk road. That's for sure.

Also if that's him in the nike hat I'm now totally convinced he is running a ponzi. No man that is making 6 figures a month (based off interest paid out and his past claims of profitability) would ever dress that awful.

He was claiming to do large sales of 100K ++ USD/BTC. No one is going to hand over that much money to some unshaven slob wearing a polo 3 sizes too big tucked into his dad jeans and a hat straight out of junior high. If that guy try to conduct any real business he would get laughed out of most buildings if he somehow managed to get by security.

Well, if you can't see him and everything is done over the internet... How would you make such a decision ?

No one is doing those type of trades online only with someone they never met.

You must be new here. Welcome to bitcoin.

LOL :)

People are dumb... Even compared to me, It amazes me :P

LOL @ dresscode = $$ , this mentality went out of the window decades ago ever since more 20something turned to millionaires than the ancient vanguards who used to turn millionaires at 50+

The door to door beggers and nigerian scammers all wear full suits, I bet you would invest in their businesses eagerly. ;)

Bernie Madoff was impeccably dressed at all times.  :)

I knew a busboy at an Albanian restaurant that was always sharply dressed. He worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, for 2 years straight, before leaving to go back to Mexico and start up a taxi service. Today at McD's, as a many past days, at a many different McD's, the manager was dressed as a slob, and she just got there to start her shift. When I used to manage Waffle Houses in Alabama, I didn't tolerate a single employee who wasn't wearing a properly cleaned and donned uniformed. Nor did I hire a single person who had metal sticking out of their face. Well, except for only this one chick, and it was only because I wanted to...

Another quick story from my Waffle House days.

It was a busy lunch hour, and I was cooking my ass off, when this Chinese guy, named Frank, cleanly dressed, asked for an application after asking, in barely understandable English, if we were hiring, whereupon I naturally replied in the affirmative. You know when at what point I hired him? Directly after he asked for an application. You know why? Besides needing a cook, and was fully aware that he probably had a cooking background in the states, it was because of the way he presented himself.

The next day, the district manager told me that I was crazy for hiring a guy that doesn't speak or write English. I looked the pirate in her eyes, after she stole my enthusiasm, and told her. "It's worse than you think. He doesn't understand it either." Here's the neat part, for those not familiar with Waffle House: There are no tickets for the cooks read like in a conventional restaurant, because the waitresses call in the orders using a form of verbal shorthand, and the cooks have to memorize the orders. Image cooking 30 meals at once--all different orders. Yes, it can be done. My personal record is 53. One cook I knew hit 72, which is more than the seating capacity of any Waffle House. How? Call in orders.

It's standard procedure for the cook to say 'repeat' when he/she wants to rehear the order. Frankie Boy had to do this 4-5 times before he got it, then he would bow to the waitresses, whereupon the waitresses started to bow back. It was a fuckin' funny sight to see and listen to the exchanges. It only took Frankie Boy less than two weeks to never have to ask a waitress to repeat an order again. Also, during his shift, he took it upon himself to clean the entire restaurant, a thing I also did from day one of my employment as a cook, hence one reason for getting the promotion(s). In less than two months, Frankie Boy was speaking English like a southern native, albeit broken. (come to think of it, maybe I shouldn't post this post  :-[)

Less than 6 months later, Frankie Boy was given his own store to manage. To this day, I don't believe Frank was his real name.  ;D

Here's hopin' you enjoyed the read.

~Bruno~

PS: I knew a deaf guy in Biloxi that got-employee-of-the-year at the Beau Rivage. Another sharply dressed guy. His only job was to clean the men's room. Every time I enter the men's room there, and he was working, I would tip him five bucks. I used to envision him standing inside each urinal scrubbing around the edges--the inside edges we can't see, let alone care about, yet believe he did. That's how that guy worked. The men's rooms were always spotless during his shift. I heard he cried when presented with the award, for he didn't have a clue that he was up for it. He was just doing his job that he was hired to do. That was all.

It's nothing to do with what they are wearing but the fit and style. Hair cut as well. No self respecting man is going to wear a baseball cap inside either. You can easily tell how much a person makes by those few things. These are simple things you learn from your peers once you start netting 80k+ a year. A t-shirt and jeans that is well fitted without gaudy branding is better than a regular cut suit that's too big. Find me someone that makes 1.2 mil+ a year that doesn't know the very basics of dressing themselves please. Heck I make 10% of that and work almost entirely online. But if I were caught dressed like that in public I would lose respect from the vast majority of my peers. Some times there are eccentrics (mainly artist type) that dress "weird" but it's usually consider fashion forward not sloppy like pirate there. It comes naturally just by the company you start to keep in that income bracket.

Also the Madoff/Nigerian scammer thing helps prove my point. He/they were actually meeting investors and giving the illusion of doing business. How many depositors would he have found if he dressed like pirate there? Since dresscode doesn't matter it would be the same right?

Pirate doesn't need to dress nice because all his depositors are online and he never actually meets anyone to make sales or conduct any sort of business.

I'm not saying dressed nicely = legit. What a silly assumption to make based off what I said. Dressing badly indicates he doesn't really hang out or do business with anyone that makes any significant income or he'd know better.

I mean they were in Vegas and that's the best he could do? Not like it was snapped at some cafe on laundry day.

Please find less retarded peers, people that actually think for themselves instead of blindly following societal rules in judging other people. I'm not a big fan of conformists as you can probably tell :)

I had the same attitude when I was younger then I got a decent job. It's just how the world works. The first thing people see when they meet you is how you're dressed and how you present yourself. First impressions mean a lot. You can have fun in your non-conformist society under the bridge and I'll happily bleat my way to the bank.

How do you asshats let a thread about the identity of pirateat40 devolve into an inane discussion about status/hacker/slacker fashion.  Take your small dicks and post over at Women Wear Daily for crying out loud.
As a matter of fact why don't you just post this shit on one of the train wreck bitconica threads  and maybe Phinn can use his google fu to sort it out  for you.

This does not mean I don't dress well when it is beneficial. It just means I do not judge people based on that (or at least try not to, some people just look disgusting). That is the difference. I'm not saying you should fight the entire world cause you will lose.

From the estimates we have of the size of SR he'd have to be taking a >40% cut of every deal just to pay BS&T's interest.
So he may be the same guy, but SR couldn't pay for BTCST to pay out the interest it does.

How do you figure? You have no idea what kind of profits SR is bringing in.... 10% of all tx's under a few hundred....  Has to be a rather large chunk of money... Remember all vendors pay a 30BTC vendors fee..


SR buyers also get charged for cancelled orders if their purchase was "Hedged" Lots of little fees

my old  landlord took his retirement early  and bought up all the deserted buildings   he could in the late  80s for peanuts

he renovated them all into condos and then the E.U  property boom kicked in and prices of real estate skyrocketed

3-4 story townhouses he converted into 6-12 unit condo buildings ,he made convenience stores and coffee shops below many of his buildings

in the next 17 years he ended up owning half the city centre

even then he still wore old clothes ,drove an old shitty car and could be seen dumping garbage and painting walls himself even when he was about 65 and a millionaire god knows how many times over .....

its actually the pretentious people who are showing off  the illusion of wealth that i find are more pre-occupied by dress than the people who actually have $hitloads of wealth and dont need to prove it to anybody

Hilarious thread.

No. 7 at the table is reeses, I believe.

Also, in texas, you can wear hats inside.

There's a thread here somewhere - some agency or other analysed the silk road and worked out total trade was about $1.9 million per month and total fees for the operators were about $130,000 per month.

Pirate's interest payments however amount to about $1.2 million this month.

However, looking at BitcoinMax as a sample, new investment exceeded interest payments by a fair chunk in July.

and you believe that? They have no idea of knowing and each day would be different. Those numbers were probably pulled by the number of forum users or someshit.

Is it me or is it just white guys and one asian chick in this picture?

Remind you of most of your high school parties?


10:1 sausage ratio ?

Sexist racist ;)

I've not had time to read it myself (it's in "bitcoin discussion") but I think they came to those conclusions based on SR's feedback system.

myfreecams.com meetup  ;D

www.cam4btc.com ! ;)

Wouldn't it be so funny if both sites were related via Kevin Day?

~Bruno~

This must be my fault but I just looked up Kevin Day (a comedian apparently) and I totally miss the reference here. Care to explain the joke?  ;)

Meet Kevin Day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20207.0

Am I the only one who thinks Pirates wardrobe choice was intentional?

Black hat.  White collar.

Good choice, imho.

Well it was an almost year long research project at the University of Carnegie Mellon.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.7139v1.pdf


They did a complete scrape of the entire SR every day for eight months and dumped the listings, feedback, and order statuses into a database.  From that and analyzing the daily changes and timestamps they built a model to extrapolate daily and monthly volume.    Slight more than just "pulled by the number of forum users or someshit".

While obviously is some error (it is an estimate) it is the most detailed look at the SR yet.   It seems unlikely their methodology would be so bad that they are off by a magnitude.   Their estimate is SR operator has gross revenue of ~$200K per month.   If it is $150K or $400 it doesn't really material change the assessment that Pirate operation is simply too large to be the SR tumbler.  Hell even if the SR operator GROSS REVENUE was $2 million (a stretch to think their methodology was that inaccurate) it seems very unlikely they would give 60% of that away for "tumbling services".

What are the chances the cia is buying all the bitcoins they can on the sly because they know the usd is about to collapse as the worlds reserve currency and they are just getting as much of the replacement as they can before the russians or chinese do ?

In  this case there is unlimited fiat at their disposal and they can just run the presses to gather as many bitcoins as they can.

Why would SR even need 'tumbling services'. Have there been instances where someone has said 'Oh your coins came from SR they are no good here'? I just don't think it is a necessary thing unless SR is actually paying taxes on their revenue which is another long stretch.

No idea..



I think SR has grown since they did this study... some vendors alone would be doing $400k in monthly sales..


1 guy I talk to on there moves a kilo of coke every couple days... say 15 kilo's a month... x $25k = a lot of money :P



has to be something not so legal... possibly SR is only a small part of it :)

if the CIA  or the FED were buying coins ,theres no reason they would stop at 11usd

esp if fiat was about to collapse