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Title: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: LouReed on March 27, 2015, 04:51:18 PM
Karma's a bitch!

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: dopecoindude on March 27, 2015, 05:02:11 PM
Karma's a bitch!

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

Wow!  :o


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Lauda on March 27, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 27, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
lol look at the photo of them together. his right arm....
poor girl must be shocked when she learned that the guy scammed a lot of people.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: dopecoindude on March 27, 2015, 05:08:29 PM
lol look at the photo of them together. his right arm....
poor girl must be shocked when she learned that the guy scammed a lot of people.

I saw that and was like omg just imagine!


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: HI-TEC99 on March 27, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
I don't know what the sheep market was, I assume it was a silk road type thing. Have the government got a load of bitcoins from there? How big was the market in comparison to evolution?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: ShetKid on March 27, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
I don't know what the sheep market was, I assume it was a silk road type thing. Have the government got a load of bitcoins from there? How big was the market in comparison to evolution?

He was the owner of the Dark Net scam . Seems he has only been arrested for Money laundering for now. How much is the usual punishment for that ?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: redsn0w on March 27, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
Karma's a bitch!

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

Finally a good news for the bitcoin community, I hope they will put him in the jail for a long time (looooong). 40 mln of dollars is an huge sum of money, and finally he was caught after ~2 years.


Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.

karpeles will never go to the jail, also if he has lost 850k bitcoin (more than 40 mln of dollars  ::)).


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 27, 2015, 05:16:25 PM
I don't know what the sheep market was, I assume it was a silk road type thing. Have the government got a load of bitcoins from there? How big was the market in comparison to evolution?

He was the owner of the Dark Net scam . Seems he has only been arrested for Money laundering for now. How much is the usual punishment for that ?

well, seeing as he didn't continue his illegal activities, maybe fifteen years max and a lot of fine.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on March 27, 2015, 06:09:51 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: albert11 on March 27, 2015, 06:11:55 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

has anyone tracked the blockchain to see where MTgOX coins have gone?



Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 27, 2015, 06:16:42 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

I'm surprised that nobody tried to hire a hitman and shoot the guy.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Snorek on March 27, 2015, 06:22:34 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

has anyone tracked the blockchain to see where MTgOX coins have gone?


I believe this is the latest article regarding MtGox and their coins moving through blockchain. http://www.coindesk.com/gox-money-moving-through-block-chain/ (http://www.coindesk.com/gox-money-moving-through-block-chain/)
Apparently since that time there wasn't any changes.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: kokojie on March 27, 2015, 06:37:48 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 27, 2015, 06:59:45 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

has anyone tracked the blockchain to see where MTgOX coins have gone?


I believe this is the latest article regarding MtGox and their coins moving through blockchain. http://www.coindesk.com/gox-money-moving-through-block-chain/ (http://www.coindesk.com/gox-money-moving-through-block-chain/)
Apparently since that time there wasn't any changes.

I doubt he's going to dump them soon. it hasn't been 3 years since the incident and I'm sure he have a lot of money left.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: silex3e4 on March 27, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

I'm surprised that nobody tried to hire a hitman and shoot the guy.

Drug vendors are not violent in nature, especially those on the darknet who can operate more safely, drugs don't create crime it's the illegality of drugs that creates it.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: --Encrypted-- on March 27, 2015, 07:03:16 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

I'm surprised that nobody tried to hire a hitman and shoot the guy.

Drug vendors are not violent in nature, especially those on the darknet who can operate more safely, drugs don't create crime it's the illegality of drugs that creates it.

I wasn't talking anything about drugs dealer, dude. I was talking about the Mtgox owner


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: silex3e4 on March 27, 2015, 07:11:23 PM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
I do not know the exact details of the Karpeles case, but I think it's safe to say that he will not go to jail at this point, he somehow got away with the whole thing.

I'm surprised that nobody tried to hire a hitman and shoot the guy.

Drug vendors are not violent in nature, especially those on the darknet who can operate more safely, drugs don't create crime it's the illegality of drugs that creates it.

I wasn't talking anything about drugs dealer, dude. I was talking about the Mtgox owner

My bad, didn't read the whole thread thought you were talking about sheep market.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: indiemax on March 27, 2015, 08:56:15 PM
I imagine being that fat,picking up the soap is going to hurt.........a lot  ;D


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Chef Ramsay on March 27, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Wonderful, leave it up to the Czechs to do what the Japanese and others failed to do. Glad to see this jerkoff got what was coming to him.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Netnox on March 27, 2015, 09:52:40 PM
Karma seriously screws you up, there is no escaping.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Bizmark13 on March 27, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.

20 years? It's quite likely that the site would have been actually hacked or its owner would slip up and get caught by the feds during that time. 20 years is a long time when it comes to Bitcoin and computer security. Tor might not even be a reliable method of obscuring one's identity by then.

Also, it would have been easy to launder the stolen bitcoins if he had done it properly. He could have sent a portion of his stash through a mixer such as Bitmixer.io every couple of months and cashed out little bits at a time using LocalBitcoins. If the police becomes suspicious, he could have simply said that he was an early adopter which would be very difficult to disprove.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: L on March 27, 2015, 10:17:26 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.

20 years? It's quite likely that the site would have been actually hacked or its owner would slip up and get caught by the feds during that time. 20 years is a long time when it comes to Bitcoin and computer security.

Also, it would have been easy to launder the stolen bitcoins if he had done it properly. He could have sent a portion of his stash through a mixer such as Bitmixer.io every couple of months and cashed out little bits at a time using LocalBitcoins. If the police becomes suspicious, he could have simply said that he was an early adopter which would be very difficult to disprove.

Yap, the longer he ran the site the more probable it would have been for him to get caught by authorities.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: bitgeek on March 27, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
He knew his face is well known, knew he was a suspect, but just couldn't wait and had to buy a residence and transfer a couple hundred thousand euros through his girlfriend's bank account, really?  ::)
In my country bank transfers of over €15k may be (and usually are) reported to the IRS, since Czech Republic is a part of the EU it may have similar rules.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on March 27, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
Karma seriously screws you up, there is no escaping.

I'm curious why karma doesn't work for USA presidents...


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: pawel7777 on March 27, 2015, 10:55:49 PM
...
Also, it would have been easy to launder the stolen bitcoins if he had done it properly. He could have sent a portion of his stash through a mixer such as Bitmixer.io every couple of months and cashed out little bits at a time using LocalBitcoins. If the police becomes suspicious, he could have simply said that he was an early adopter which would be very difficult to disprove.

It's not that easy. In such cases you have to be able to prove your story. They cannot prosecute you for any crime until proving your guilt, but they can and will seize your cash if you can't prove it's legit. Otherwise every criminal could just say "I'm an early bitcoin adopter and cashed my bitcoins slowly over time".

Plus, according to linked article:

Quote
Thomas was never arrested until know, even though that his name details were well known and reported to the Czech police soon after the scam.

that surely didn't help his attempt to money launder.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: duckydonald on March 27, 2015, 10:56:47 PM
cause they are protected and dont blame just the prez alone is the whole government.  

also one more thing they only go after you steal more then 300,000 dollars, I dont see people going to jail for 10,000  


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: duckydonald on March 27, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
...
Also, it would have been easy to launder the stolen bitcoins if he had done it properly. He could have sent a portion of his stash through a mixer such as Bitmixer.io every couple of months and cashed out little bits at a time using LocalBitcoins. If the police becomes suspicious, he could have simply said that he was an early adopter which would be very difficult to disprove.

It's not that easy. In such cases you have to be able to prove your story. They cannot prosecute you for any crime until proving your guilt, but they can and will seize your cash if you can't prove it's legit. Otherwise every criminal could just say "I'm an early bitcoin adopter and cashed my bitcoins slowly over time".

Plus, according to linked article:

Quote
Thomas was never arrested until know, even though that his name details were well known and reported to the Czech police soon after the scam.

that surely didn't help his attempt to money launder.

if he took 40 million he should had moved and stay off the net. Case solved, the face he kept his facebook and other shit, he did the same shit like Dread pirate roberts did. Im sure the Evoulution scammers are scared of there asses now.  ha ha ha


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: maku on March 27, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
...
Also, it would have been easy to launder the stolen bitcoins if he had done it properly. He could have sent a portion of his stash through a mixer such as Bitmixer.io every couple of months and cashed out little bits at a time using LocalBitcoins. If the police becomes suspicious, he could have simply said that he was an early adopter which would be very difficult to disprove.

It's not that easy. In such cases you have to be able to prove your story. They cannot prosecute you for any crime until proving your guilt, but they can and will seize your cash if you can't prove it's legit. Otherwise every criminal could just say "I'm an early bitcoin adopter and cashed my bitcoins slowly over time".

Plus, according to linked article:

Quote
Thomas was never arrested until know, even though that his name details were well known and reported to the Czech police soon after the scam.

that surely didn't help his attempt to money launder.

if he took 40 million he should had moved and stay off the net. Case solved, the face he kept his facebook and other shit, he did the same shit like Dread pirate roberts did. Im sure the Evoulution scammers are scared of there asses now.  ha ha ha
This Czech guy was just a lucky flop. He was not pro scammer but he just went with the flow and he won some big money. From the other hand Evolution creators were professional scammers, fraudsters and carders. They won't be easy catch.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Cult on March 28, 2015, 12:10:44 AM
Hope he enjoys his new sex life. :D


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: ajareselde on March 28, 2015, 12:28:07 AM
In the time that this scam happened, and the money was stolen , there was virtually possibilities of such scams on every corner. People were new to bitcoin, there was a large inflow of
money in bitcoin, and all that led to pranksters like this fatty to do what he did.
The very fact that he got cought in such a noob way tells more about him than any news, he obviously isnt smart enough to keep the money. Justice served right.

cheers


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Velkro on March 28, 2015, 12:33:06 AM
Finally, someone gets arrested for running a scam. He definitely deserved this. Hopefully more bad guys will be caught in the future.
Just look at Karpeles, still a free man.
Agree, scammer got what he deserved. He looks terrible, and hurt a lot of dangerous people ;O


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: BitcoiNaked on March 28, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
What a fag, i thought he would look more badass for a darknet drug dev, but i guess they all look like an ugly nerd not being able to run a block, it's pathetic. Horrible for a drugdealer to see what kind of person took his money lol.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: TheGr33k on March 28, 2015, 05:57:48 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.
he would have been arrested if he ran the site for 20 years, when evo exit scammed someone pointed out that you can only leave in 3 ways; get arrssted, exit scammed, or shutdown with notice of the users. Only a fww sites ever done the last because they dont need to.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Jamie_Boulder on March 28, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Not sure if we're allowed to talk about this here but what's the new famous black market these days? still SR 2.0?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: uvt9 on March 28, 2015, 07:47:43 PM
The fact that someone getting investigated just because he suddenly got rich is really scary.

Why don't he just tell authority that he bought those coins years ago when it was only few cents a pop ? How did police end up revealing the stolen coins ?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Bytty on March 28, 2015, 07:55:15 PM
Not sure if we're allowed to talk about this here but what's the new famous black market these days? still SR 2.0?

Check here: http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/10/28/updated-llist-of-hidden-marketplaces-tor-i2p/


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: dasource on March 28, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Karma seriously screws you up, there is no escaping.

I'm curious why karma doesn't work for USA presidents...

Too funny!
Glad to see these thieves are being dealt with ...


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: dhimasnk on March 28, 2015, 11:37:51 PM
deserved severe punishment imposed on persons who have committed fraud. I hope other con men in the field of bitcoin soon caught, because they have damaged the reputation of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: coinpr0n on March 28, 2015, 11:43:04 PM
Will this bring any justice? Maybe more Bitcoin auctions down the road?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Jamie_Boulder on March 29, 2015, 06:02:03 AM
Not sure if we're allowed to talk about this here but what's the new famous black market these days? still SR 2.0?

Check here: http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/10/28/updated-llist-of-hidden-marketplaces-tor-i2p/
Very helpful, thanks.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Kprawn on March 29, 2015, 06:12:45 AM
It is always funny that these people think they will get away with scams like this. Then you go out and buy huge assets like a house and you think no red flags will be raised?

I wonder if his girlfriend will go to jail too? She should have know that he used her account for illegal money laundering.  :(


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Mobius on March 29, 2015, 06:54:18 AM
Good to see that justice was served. Hopefully this is in the mind of other bitcoin scammers who are still on the run. Make money honestly or constantly worry.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: coinpr0n on March 29, 2015, 08:57:30 AM
Not sure if we're allowed to talk about this here but what's the new famous black market these days? still SR 2.0?

Check here: http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/10/28/updated-llist-of-hidden-marketplaces-tor-i2p/
Very helpful, thanks.

A great resource. But I thought many (if not most) DNMs were down due to a vulnerability with Tor hidden services?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: fonenumba on March 29, 2015, 02:54:25 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.
20 years is a really long time to achieve ROI. He reasonably should be able to double his money in ~8 years if he invested it in the stock market.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: pawel7777 on March 29, 2015, 06:39:46 PM
He could have made the same amount of money if he just kept running the site honestly for the next 20 years. I guess fast money is too tempting, and he thought he could get away with it.
20 years is a really long time to achieve ROI. He reasonably should be able to double his money in ~8 years if he invested it in the stock market.

He probably reached his ROI within first month or two.

Earning the same amount of money that you could have gained by stealing is not "ROI"


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: gentlemand on March 30, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
Will this bring any justice? Maybe more Bitcoin auctions down the road?

I guess a decent amount has been converted into fiat already. Maybe the rest is locked in his head but that's not going to be much use to him further down the road. They'll be watching every possible funding option.

I think the lesson we should take from this nincompoop is - be nice and then fade away.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Furio on March 30, 2015, 11:51:20 AM
Karma's a bitch!

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

He's a very stupid man, recently had a presentation about darkmarkets and bitcoin criminals, they are untraceable of they do it right, but allmost all fall victim to their own greed, couldn't he just waited a couple of years, emigrate to a country without expidition treaty, and voila he would have got away with it, but no, they all want to bask in their wealth immediately, laughable, guy won't make it for a week...


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 30, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Can't believe this actually.... Just a few days after the robbery, some of the Reddit users had identified Thomas Jiřikovský as the possible thief.

http://www.deepdotweb.com/sheep-marketplace-and-tomas-jirikovsky/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rxjsc/ji%C5%99ikovsk%C3%BDs_girlfriend_made_a_statement_on_her/

They deserve a big round of applause. But I am sad that the biggest thief is still roaming free (Karpeles).


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: coinpr0n on March 30, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
Can't believe this actually.... Just a few days after the robbery, some of the Reddit users had identified Thomas Jiřikovský as the possible thief.

http://www.deepdotweb.com/sheep-marketplace-and-tomas-jirikovsky/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rxjsc/ji%C5%99ikovsk%C3%BDs_girlfriend_made_a_statement_on_her/

They deserve a big round of applause. But I am sad that the biggest thief is still roaming free (Karpeles).

Don't mess with the Internet peoples' monies. It don't end well.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: DeboraMeeks on March 30, 2015, 08:57:26 PM
Can't believe this actually.... Just a few days after the robbery, some of the Reddit users had identified Thomas Jiřikovský as the possible thief.

http://www.deepdotweb.com/sheep-marketplace-and-tomas-jirikovsky/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rxjsc/ji%C5%99ikovsk%C3%BDs_girlfriend_made_a_statement_on_her/

They deserve a big round of applause. But I am sad that the biggest thief is still roaming free (Karpeles).

Karpeles time will come, trust me!


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 31, 2015, 11:27:57 AM
Can't believe this actually.... Just a few days after the robbery, some of the Reddit users had identified Thomas Jiřikovský as the possible thief.

http://www.deepdotweb.com/sheep-marketplace-and-tomas-jirikovsky/

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rxjsc/ji%C5%99ikovsk%C3%BDs_girlfriend_made_a_statement_on_her/

They deserve a big round of applause. But I am sad that the biggest thief is still roaming free (Karpeles).

Don't mess with the Internet peoples' monies. It don't end well.

Yes... this is going to end very badly for Jiřikovský. At the time of the SMP robbery, a few drug lords, with connection to powerful mafias and cartels were rumored to have lost millions of USD in coins and cash. And now the identity of the thief is established, I don't think they will remain quiet.


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: Immortal Tech on March 31, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
Yes... this is going to end very badly for Jiřikovský. At the time of the SMP robbery, a few drug lords, with connection to powerful mafias and cartels were rumored to have lost millions of USD in coins and cash. And now the identity of the thief is established, I don't think they will remain quiet.

Don't believe everything you read on reddit. Has any evidence been presented on this or are you literally just going by something you read on the internet?


Title: Re: Sheep Market owner arrested!
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 31, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
Don't believe everything you read on reddit. Has any evidence been presented on this or are you literally just going by something you read on the internet?

Use your brain. There were quite a few major drug dealers in SMP, who lost more than BTC10,000 each. Some of them openly threatened to kill the thief if he was ever identified. And I don't think that all of these drug dealers are unrelated to any organized cartel.