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Dont know if this is the right place, but I just noticed that Curtis Greens family set up a go fund me campaign to help fight against the bad agent I think the Url is
http://www.gofundme.com/helpushelpcurtis I think they put in a bitcoin address too, but didnt read the whole thing.

Wow, they set it up less than 40 minutes ago and you found it already?   Especially with 0 social media shares??  ::)

Anyone can set up a go fund me campaign and pretend to be anyone they want.

Why didn't you donate any money?

Wow.... $18 000 in a fanny pack.... what bank does not want 18k deposits?

Anything related to Silkroad is a hot potato and people would think twice to donate, if they not sure that the money is going to someone who is innocent and a real victim.

They will also not donate to a anonymous bitcoin address. {Make a youtube video, and proof that it's real}

I've reported it to gofundme.  If legit, I will remove the neutral feedback I have placed against the OP.

If it turns out this is BS, I will change the neutral feedback to negative feedback.

I agree with you, I feel strange with this news how he found this story or he might cooperate with this person.

I happen to know the family pretty well (i dated his Daughter a few years ago). tonya, his wife set it up. She actually tried to get it going a few days ago. but if you look at the family picture she used and look at her facebook which she posted it on, i think, you will see that they are the same person . I believe she posted it on her facebook.  she has never had any experience with gofund me. how can i get her to prove its legit?

I sent her a message on Facebook.  You can contact her and ask her to reply.  :)

will do vod. but here is one of the first articles that they did and it shows Tonya and the family..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2013/11/08/meet-the-silk-road-employee-that-the-dread-pirate-roberts-allegedly-tried-to-murder/

I know.  The picture used on the gofundme campaign is widely available on the web.

Have her reply on Facebook.

but look under that photo. it has her picture and name... good grief...

Also she told me that it has been tweeted on Curtis' twitter page. his handle is ilovepoker

After reading it I was wondering who the fuck keeps 18k in a  fanny pack, then I saw the picture. He had banking troubles? The whole thing sounds suspicious, yea the DEA guys were scum but after googling Curtis green's name it comes up that he is "self-proclaimed former heroin addict". Yet your add says he has never touched or injested a sched 1 substance, the whole thing sounds fishy. I imagine he wasn't a mod for free. I am just trying to figure out why I should donate to the GOFUND me. Didn't this guy get caught? Reading the Gfm it sounds like you are playing he is an angel, DEA=Bad.


"But to the hundreds of thousands of anonymous names that populated the Silk Road, he was a pseudonymous administrator who fielded complaints from the site’s buyers and sellers, ran its user-written information page and peddled narcotics. Green first posted to the Silk Road user forums as chronicpain in June of 2011, and announced that he would be selling drugs like oxymorphone, oxycodone and “maybe” methadone and adderall.

“I’m new to the site but I’m not new to the game,” he noted, adding later that he had been selling drugs in the mail “for years” prior to the Silk Road’s creation. He covered his tracks, according to online posts, by wearing driving gloves while mailing packages and using post offices outside of his hometown."

She can leave a comment to the campaign with the facebook account you're talking about.

She just texted  me that she posted a comment. hope that will satisfy the disbelievers. Thats okay if you dont donate, thats your choice. but I think most peoples attitude would change if they knew the whole story. I really feel bad for his family. Tonya will be posting a video or picture holding up the bitcoin  address soon.

Call me naive, but I believe Curtis when he stated he has never sold drugs. Just because its posted on a forum doesn't make it true. if you believe everything you read, your in trouble. BTW, I asked him who posted it, and it was a new vendor by the name of pharmville, he used his account until he established one for himself (it had pharm in the name somewhere, lol)

You sure?

http://freeross.org/donate-now-2/ (http://freeross.org/donate-now-2/)

Good grief?  Don't you understand how easy it would be for a scammer to take a public photo and a public name and create a fake listing?

Update:  OP PMed me to email her at an anonymous gmail address. (Like I was born yesterday)  ::)  I'm waiting for her to contact me on Facebook from her Facebook page.  I have given the OP instructions on how she can do this.

If you go to the fundme page, there is a share from facebook with her picture on it. (at the bottom where there is a picture of tonya and a little quote) at least i can see it...  Hopefully tonya just send a friend reguest to VOD, so i hope we can put this to rest, lol..

Also, I've been a member here since 2011, i forgot my log in credentials and had to open a new account in 2012, ive sold many bitcoin miners and feel that im trusted. Now, I can see if i was a noob or someone that hasn't been here as long as I have. I was one of the first people to buy a mini rig from BFL, and one of the first to get scammed, lol...

Tonya Heaps Green contacted me via Facebook.  The picture on the FB account is the same as the GoFundMe campaign.  She has over 250 FB friends and posts from 2014.

Looks like this is legit so I apologize to the OP.  There are a lot of scams going around so one has to be careful.

A word of advice:  Don't make your initial post with phrases like "I just noticed" if you were aware of the campaign to begin with.  Throws up a red flag.

:)

Thanks Vod. I hate scammers as well. I should have handled it differently. I knew the timing would be an issue, I should have waited a day, lol...

It's also posted on reddit by someone:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34a6tt/a_gofundme_campaign_has_been_set_up_by_curtis/

I guess they bounced a check a few years ago and you know how bank fees can spiral out of control, so when that happens you get put on a list and you cant open a bank account, at least thats what his wife said was the reason they didn't have a checking account, they wanted one, but couldnt get one. So, it makes sense to me why they had that much cash on hand. it wast small bills either, all big bills and wrapped in the banks wrapping and in the banks envelope. Its amazing that they can seize money without a trial. sounds unconstitutional to me...Especially when you can prove where the money came from.. now, if was all in 20s tens, and all wadded up or looked used, then it would look fishy, but crisp 100 dollar bills? fucking government.

BTW, I donated a hundred bucks to the family..

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22gofundme.com%2Fhelpushelpcurtis%22&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&oq=%22gofundme.com%2Fhelpushelpcurtis%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6973j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

http://s9.postimg.org/7sfiw9eyn/1gr.jpg

Curious as to why there's still nary a single mention by friends and family of the Greens via Twitter or Facebook of this funding campaign.

Perhaps they don't want too much publicity?

I guess you're right. Besides, it's ONLY $50K for a dude that Ross wanted dead, hence the faking of first the water torture in a bathtub at a hotel then smothered and covered him like Waffle House hash browns to show Ross pics of a limp body so that the balance of the hit could be made: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/.

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/


http://www.gofundme.com/helpushelpcurtis



Two different amounts in the fanny pack.

Ironic, to read two different accounts of two different Tonya loosely linked to the OP.

Pardon me while I paste this here: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8b9a14cdd93c73226618fe136466490d8a19b9470b16b7816c92d321e585ce48

What does this mean?  The people asking for money bought drugs on Silk Road?

Maybe I could help clarify a few things.. I asked tonya about that tonya jones, Im sure its a total coincidence.. she has no idea who that person is. About the transactions, She stated that Curtis has been buying ans selling bitcoin since 2011, and he used mtgox, so no surprise that there are sr connections.. anything particular you want me to ask her?

Also, i asked her about the money.. they took 18k from his fanny pack and Carl and Shaun bridges took 4k from his dwolla account. hence it equals 23k.. From what she understands, is that carl and shaun pocketed that money, it wasnt turned over to their superiors...

Yes, as devote mormons, this has been very embarrassing for the family i guess. I do know that their next door neighbor, who is there ecclisastical (spelling) leader, or one of them, actually dumped cat and dog shit on their front door soon after this happened. not very christ like if you ask me... In fact, they continue to get death threats. Tonya is a fantastic lady..

lol, i almost forgot... Carl took over the mtgox account and moved his stolen money into Curtis' account. if you look at the dates,  coins were moved to from the account when he was supposed to be dead.EDIT> I was wrong.. so forget what i just said, lol...This whole case is surreal. You can't make this shit up, lol...

Edit again. I was thinking, I wonder how many coins have been thru the silk road or one one the dark web places? I bet millions passed thru there, so odds are, many of us probably have SR coins somewhere in our wallets, or at least they were there at one point, lol.... i wonder what the exact data is?

My Google Fu fees are generally ~$100/hr. For Vod, I charge exactly $314.15/hr because I can run rings around him.  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.msg1122254#msg1122254 // https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.msg1122258#msg1122258

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8b9a14cdd93c73226618fe136466490d8a19b9470b16b7816c92d321e585ce48

http://s16.postimg.org/3wpplkek5/18b.jpg

oh yea, i remember that. I never did get my 10btc  he said he would pay me 4btc becasue the value skyrocketed, which I agreed to, but never got it.. it was that mathew wright scam that he pulled... I believe that was a mtgox account. I used that or bitinstant back then. I did have a online wallet, but it was rarely used. I foolishly trusted 3rd parties, now, I wouldnt let anyone else but me control my coins.., i think, its now defunct, but this was when bitcoin was sub 10 dollars, boy, to have those 300 or so coins back now (or when we hit the all time high)..... I thought you were talking about someone else, not me, lol..

Also, your assuming that just because one used silk road that they purchased drugs or something illegal? Its none of your damn business, but  Ill admit, I purchased 8 hp touchpads from silk  road, I finalized early  and was scammed... the value was right around 800  bucks, hp was unloading them for 25 bucks or something, so I thought 100 a piece was a deal, before they stopped making them, they sold for like 600 a piece. it was for the scammer, lol... that one hurt, i didnt have much money and it wiped me out, i was planning on reselling them.. hard lesson...

I still dont know what sending coins to silk road has to do with anything....you do realize that during 2011 and 2012 there were more non drug items than drug items for sale, for some unknown reason, drugs happened to be their best seller, i guess, lol..., i believed that changed in 2013 when drugs were like 3 to 1 on non  drug items... but what does this have anything to do with his gofundme campaign.. I chose to give, call me crazy.. price of btc back then was about 9 bucks, but it would vary from 5-10 if i recall... man, to have a time machine..

Also, that item where you bring up tonya jones is misleading.. someone was talking about some sort of scam and gave the name and address, it had nothing to with me, since I lived in the same county, i offered to drive over and knock on the door for the person that was ripped off. you make is sound as if It was my business or something, I  was just trying to help since I knew the area...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606942.msg7491679#msg7491679

Ooch! I guess it's safe to assume that your ~17 BTC purchase from SilkRoad 11 days prior went smoothly.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/db0b5345b13b044bf34472c5c693805e35c588f28992f6441d670ed230fb322f

http://s24.postimg.org/x1wvgofnp/1db.jpg

The very next transaction - sans fees - was to 1DEA7x5XzSo27ku2otPy5NcNNBPs7B4PBF (https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1DEA7x5XzSo27ku2otPy5NcNNBPs7B4PBF).

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/2227017fa23cad804db9753364c69054e77908bc3db4c3288139aa929a508c15

http://s7.postimg.org/5eoji84ej/1da.jpg

I guess your definition of being wiped out is different than my definition of being wiped out, i.e., spending ~77 BTC two days later:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/06b986b1a3c4c16ed11898c9ce9fd5649bd5f3a6d55ca3c29c80e89d653821ca

http://s18.postimg.org/myqwhnwdl/106.jpg

And, on the same day (~13 hours later), spending another ~55 BTC, with ~28 BTC going to SilkRoad: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/d66464ab2278d16b7bb0cd3eb239deb718ae7296321a563d2767ce18606a20c7.

And, ~4 days later, spending another ~642 BTC: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/4ddcbf88874881415c8f491847883691e94bdcbb644a2183a7573d8f88fd39eb

http://s9.postimg.org/r16g0oorz/14d.jpg

I assume you're Mormon, correct?

Yep, you got me... I was stoned out of my mind. wait, ive never done an illegal drug in my life, must of been too much caffeine.... you are taking this off topic... please stop posting....

Did you ever check out Silk road? there were tons of cool stuff to purchase, and no, im not talking about drugs. I purchased the computers, that i was scammed, i purchased some silver and an uncut diamond, a couple pair of sunglasses from china, and the best thing that I bought was coupons from purple lotus, ill never forget that name..he had some great coupons.. so yea, im guilty of buying off silk road, certainly doesn't mean i purchased drugs, not like I care if others did, i dont judge others, or try not to...

Oh, i almost forgot, i purchased a graphics card for mining... Anything else I can do for you?  I looked at the date, and the date of purchase was months before what you are posting, about the computers, it seemed like i was scammed in the late fall of 2011 or early 2012..but Im pretty sure that was my first purchase, not 100 percent sure though..

The coupons cost me like 25 or 30 bucks, i think, could have been a bit more, cant remember the prices of the other items, but silver was close to spot, the uncut diamond turned out to be a great deal, i want to say it was around 500 bucks, could have been more.

So, you are saying that just because one purchases from silk road they are buying drugs? There were some great deals, I know of some people would go sell an item just to use the escrow system. I think that a legal SR would work out quite well, if done right.. meaning, just be like ebay, but use bitcoins. I know there was a site that tried to do that, but the software sucked and was slow, I think DPR could have done silk road without the drugs and still have been successful..

Drug purchases aside, you just penned that a ~200 BTC purchase nearly wiped you out, but 4 days later you spent ~642 BTC, not to mention alluding to this SR buy being a one time deal due to a great deal, and now you want me to quit posting in this thread. Color me confused. Doesn't sound very Mormon-esque to me.

wiped out my savings.Also, maybe when i say it wiped me out, it wiped me out of all the "extra" money I could spend. its been so long, i cant remember the exact financial situation it put me in, but it hurt me.i bought and sold bitcoins for months, bought low sold high.. did this for about a year or 2, until bitcoin got so expensive it got out of my league.. but when it was 10 dollars, it was a great way to make money.... I cant remember the exact dates of when I purchased them.. i know you want me to be this bad guy.. sorry to disappoint. Im far from perfect, but one thing im not is a lier or a thief, can you say the same?

Oh yea, i mined bitcoins from early 2011 til I finally got my machines from BFL.. Why the interest? is this your new project? Also, who made you my judge? you should probably spend more time on bettering yourself than trying to find fault in others.. it will do you and the world a lot of good...

BTW, who said I was a Mormon?

now I know why people say "Dont feed the trolls"

Firstly, you said you're a Mormon via other site(s) I've found, but being kind by not posting the links.

Secondly, still color "now-I'm-a-troll" confused...



What do you about those that helped bring Silk road down? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313182.0)


I say it's now quite obvious why you desire of me to quit posting in this thread, or is this post off-topic vis-à-vis not related to the OP in any way, shape or form?


"The admins, like your ex-girlfriend's father, take all the risk."

The last highlighted text implies that the SR was all about drugs, but you used it for everything but.

What I was talking about is Silk roads hedging system, how complicated it was. Nothing to do with the legal risks. just about how they took all the financial risk of the hedging system. if bitcoin made a big swing, the site could lose a large sum of money. Thats what i was talking about them taking the risk, and its obvious that ross made the sites specifically for drugs and guns, but took guns off or made another site., hence my comment about tech/ drug savvy admins. meaning Ross. I just recently figured out how Ross did it. and yea, most purchases that are done on silk road were drugs, even though there were more non drugs for sale. a recent article i read stated that 80 percent of all sales on SR were drug related, dont know how they can know for sure, but i wouldn't doubt it. There were many vendors that didnt sell any type of drug. In fact, If they didnt charge for a vending account, I was going to sell bitcoin tshirts on the site, glad i never did that, lol, just like a vendor in England that didnt sell drugs is suing the govt for his bitcoins back.

I think SR could have been successful without the need to sell drugs. But, its been nefarious things that drove the popularity of VHS tapes, and the rise of the internet( no pun intended), porn drove both of those to be popular (as you most likely know).. a lot of people attribute the success of bitcoin because of Silk road.

You are now on ignore, now off you go!! Go back to trolling BFL...
I can change colors and size too!

I just wanted to clarify one thing.. If adults want to do drugs and as long as they dont hurt an another person, then more power to them. IF they want to risk overdosing or ruining their life, then thats their choice. If you want to go smoke a doobie, then i think you should have that choice and right. I personally choose not to but I dont think badly of people that do. I think it was gutsy of Ross to start Silk road. But in the end, he acted just like a typical drug kingpin. I think things might have turned out differently had he stuck to his ideals. but power and greed over took him.. Most libertarians would agree with what silk road stood for. minus the murder for hires, etc.. Despite what the govt says, i think SR probably helped saves lives, but who knows for sure. I think the war on drugs has been a huge failure and we should rethink our tactics as a government, but its too big of a business. too many federal agents that need to be employed,  too many prisons that need to be filled. it trickles down. millions of jobs would be lost if we ended the the war on drugs. The War on drugs will probably never end, at least in our life time. We should take a page out of portugals book and decriminalize drugs.. its actually lowered the  crime rate there.

/end rant...

July 15, 2012, 07:49:21 PM CST: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15672.msg1033133#msg1033133


September 12, 2012, 12:46:06 PM CST: So, he tried his hand at mining, eh? I'm curious as to how much he spent to get into mining bitcoins.


It's a damn shame that you have this troll, me, on ignore, for I'll now never have a chance to read your clever explanations to this post.

You just penned that you've been mining since early 2011, yet your very first post on this forum clearly depicts that you were going try your hand at mining circa mid-July, 2012, thus eliminating a typo on your part to mean early 2012 oppose to early 2011. Then, you spent ~$100K USD to try mining. Then, a few hundred dollar purchase on SR hurt you financially. Then, you spent three times the amount that hurt you financially four days later.

If the Greens are in such dire straits needing $50K USD, then why the fuck haven't they themselves put in one iota of effort to bring attention to their crowdfunding campaign? All I'm seeing is that effort by you with this thread, an effort you penned two years ago that you were planning on doing.

This entire crowdfunding campaign doesn't make any sense, with still nary a mention of its existence outside of this forum and Reddit in spite of 24 tweets (below) linking to the GFM page that Google felt is not important enough to even index those efforts:


I'm now going to do a test tweet via GFM and see how quickly Google indexes it. I'm guessing it'll show up.

Tweet is now live: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin100/status/594530983572963328

Is there evidence to support this story?

Yes! The Marriott should have a record of the stay by the fake DEA thugs that gave Curtis Green four baths to convince Ross of SR that he's clean now.  ::)

<see my sig> And, this week's The Fodor Award goes to...



Forty-year-old dude dating a twenty-year-old(?) owns a bathtub company and ~1.5M USD in buildings and is minority diamond mine owner was hurt financially due to an ~$800 USD purchase that went sour via SilkRoad.  ::)

No wonder I'm on his ignore list. The last person he put on ignore was Matthew N. Wright, vowing to never speak of him again, albeit he spoke of him in the next dozen or so posts after vowing to not do such.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Help%20us%20fight%20dirty%20Federal%20agents!&src=typd

http://s10.postimg.org/v9hmi57u1/100.jpg

That's weird! After 25 (was 24 till I tweeted) tweets, mine is the only one that shows up.

To date, the Greens have virtually done nothing to advance their $50K USD GFM request due to being in dire straits, whereas the OP and I have put in efforts.

now, this thread totally makes sense...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.0

I just have to laugh.....

Here's an interesting tidbit.

The 40-year-oldish dude who owns a bathtub company and dated the daughter of a 40-year-oldish dude who faked his water torture in a...wait for it...bathtub, opted to not post on this forum circa the time that Curtis Green was arrested. Further, when he came back to this forum after a near-six-month hiatus, he posted under his current moniker and no longer using avidreader.

lol, didn't you used to be phiineaus gage or something like that? why is okay for you to change names, but give me shit for doing it? I liked the name better and they let me change it. no conspiracy theory, lol, but im sure youll make one up.. I also kept the same account, the name just changed... also,  I have been away  for months at a time. multiple times.. i dont live here like some people..