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Title: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 03, 2016, 08:13:01 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=502384
https://i.imgur.com/GsVPYCy.jpg https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-zinck-49502b24 Quote Michael Zinck Advisor - Board of Investors at Stakeminers.com Philippines Internet Current Stakeminers.com, AIDS Moncton Previous Cabela's Canada, Killam Properties Inc., Veterans Affairs Canada Education Holland College https://i.imgur.com/LZTQPer.jpg Quote Board of Investors Stakeminers.com April 2015 – Present (1 year)Region XI - Davao, Philippines Investor and adviser to a firm in the crypto-currency Proof of Stake (PoS) field. The company has been in business for 10 month as of January 2016. It has been a challenging first year with many operational decisions being made and policies being revised to meet a demanding and volatile marketplace. The company accepts bitcoin investments from clients with which it then purchases alternative (altcoins) for staking (electronic mining) on the altcoins electronic peer to peer network. Given the oft described 'wild west' nature of the crypto community, a think skin, patience and a tolerance for high risk are required. https://i.imgur.com/xBSMcvR.jpg Upon at least a hundred requests, Leroy Fodor, founder (ONLY - not CEO) of StakeMiners.com (website ONLY), has yet to provide proof that StakeMiners is nothing but a website in spite of him repeatedly referring to it as a company. StakeMiners is not registered in any Nation State or on any planet in our solar system, and perhaps not in any other solar system unless Leroy provides proof otherwise. StakeMiners' Board of Investors which Michael Zinck is a proud member of is a non-paying position. I take that back. Michael had to pay at least 1 BTC to be considered for the position, indicative of ALL other BOI trustees. The general consensus from folks much wiser than I all depict StakeMiners as a classic Ponzi scheme, with current investors now having to wait at least 54 weeks to get their initial investment back due to market conditions, according to Leroy Fodor. Those market conditions consists of investors leaving StakeMiners with no new members joining, again, according to Leroy. See my sig or visit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990219 to read all the lies that Leroy Fodor has penned throughout the years and, moreover, the hundreds of lies he's penned since joining the crypto space in May 2014. Michael Zinck is a man that should be smart enough to recognize a scammy fuck like Leroy Fodor, but since he's not and opts to spread his lies and Ponzi scheme, I have no choice but to expose him as a scammy cocksucker as well, with apologies for using the term "scammy". Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 03, 2016, 10:31:20 PM Let me just post a completely random list of mugshots and names. Surely not affiliated or in any way complicit with Leroy Fodor's scam.
https://meem.link/i/a/X7PSRNf.png Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 03, 2016, 11:19:58 PM I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names?
Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 03, 2016, 11:22:53 PM Let me just post a completely random list of mugshots and names. Surely not affiliated or in any way complicit with Leroy Fodor's scam. https://i.imgur.com/X7PSRNf.png How is Wofvman CFO of a website (not a company) when Leroy Fodor does all the financial, Wofvbreath ONLY owning the domain (unless Leroy lied about that also)? Hey, suchmoon, do you wanna be the CFO of the Gleb Gamow company which I'm the CEO? You handle all of the money of the company and I simply post. If anybody wants to withdraw from Gleb Gamow, tell them there's a three-year waiting list, but that could shorten if economic conditions improve. I would do it myself, but I have to go and create another bogus Russian account on Facebook to fuck with Leroy some more, hence the GG brand having so much value. HAHAHA I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names? Yes, and they're all non-paying positions, albeit all paid at least 1 BTC to be a trustee. That's how fucked up StakeMiners is. http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs11/howdybig.jpg "And I'm the CEO of the company making it all work." Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2016, 01:54:02 AM I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names? Their forum names and twitter handles and such. What's going on is quite simple - cyberpinoy aka Leroy Fodor collected 120 BTC worth of "investments" and now has roughly ~20 BTC while the rest evaporated due to his astoundingly stubborn ineptitude masked by a massive stream of lies and other bullshit. The gang in the pictures is his "board" that supports this idiocy with varying levels of aggression. Terrik is a good example - plainly refused to look at any evidence showing cyberpinoy's lies. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2016, 02:11:28 AM Hey, suchmoon, do you wanna be the CFO of the Gleb Gamow company which I'm the CEO? You handle all of the money of the company and I simply post. If anybody wants to withdraw from Gleb Gamow, tell them there's a three-year waiting list, but that could shorten if economic conditions improve. I would do it myself, but I have to go and create another bogus Russian account on Facebook to fuck with Leroy some more, hence the GG brand having so much value. HAHAHA I see what you did here. You're trying to make Leroy think it's you so he would blow up on the poor sucker. I don't think that's gonna happen. As long as there is any hope of fleecing the Russian for the 50 BTC Leroy will be stringing him along. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 04, 2016, 02:19:26 AM I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names? Their forum names and twitter handles and such. What's going on is quite simple - cyberpinoy aka Leroy Fodor collected 120 BTC worth of "investments" and now has roughly ~20 BTC while the rest evaporated due to his astoundingly stubborn ineptitude masked by a massive stream of lies and other bullshit. The gang in the pictures is his "board" that supports this idiocy with varying levels of aggression. Terrik is a good example - plainly refused to look at any evidence showing cyberpinoy's lies. Nigel Dollentas was 15 when he joined StakeMiners, 16 when he paid his at-least 1 BTC dues to become a BOI Trustee. That, in spite of StakeMiners' ToS: https://stakeminers.com/terms.php Quote 4.1. By creating an Account, the User expressly represents and warrants that he/she: follows the rules and laws in his/her country of residence and/or country from which he/she accesses this Site and Services; has accepted these Terms of Use; is at least 18 years of age and has the right to accept these Terms of Use and participate in transactions involving cryptocurrencies and commodities. https://twitter.com/nigeldollentas/status/705537183327899648 https://i.imgur.com/pQtnmFQ.jpg Just like Leroy Fodor, Wofvman and Lucas Musser before him, Nigel is looking to start his own GoFundMe page. The lad had a lot of promise, but instead of high school pussy fuckin' up his career, kowtowing to Leroy produced the same results. Hey, suchmoon, do you wanna be the CFO of the Gleb Gamow company which I'm the CEO? You handle all of the money of the company and I simply post. If anybody wants to withdraw from Gleb Gamow, tell them there's a three-year waiting list, but that could shorten if economic conditions improve. I would do it myself, but I have to go and create another bogus Russian account on Facebook to fuck with Leroy some more, hence the GG brand having so much value. HAHAHA I see what you did here. You're trying to make Leroy think it's you so he would blow up on the poor sucker. I don't think that's gonna happen. As long as there is any hope of fleecing the Russian for the 50 BTC Leroy will be stringing him along. Okay, I guess I'll go with my second choice: A Romanian Monk. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2016, 02:25:54 AM Okay, I guess I'll go with my second choice: A Romanian Monk. ... who happens to have a Nigerian Uncle :) Or is that too obvious even for Leroy? Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 04, 2016, 03:00:27 AM Okay, I guess I'll go with my second choice: A Romanian Monk. ... who happens to have a Nigerian Uncle :) Or is that too obvious even for Leroy? Leroy Fodor's a motherfuckin' idiot. I once penned "at the end of the day" and that stupid cocksucker took it literally in spite of context, chastising me for using the phrase, whereupon I quote his fuckin' ass no less than a half dozen times depicting him using the exact same phrase in same context over the course of years on the Net. Another thing I noticed is that every time he used to spell 'their' as 'thier' we gave him hell. Leroy's solution? He quit penning it, perhaps because the spelling was beyond him. He did the same for 'cheif'. HAHAHA The first year anniversary is fast approaching in two short weeks, celebrating when I first started following Leroy Fodor anywhere and everywhere. HAHAHA Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 04, 2016, 11:37:03 PM https://www.facebook.com/mszinck/posts/10152822853716956:0
https://i.imgur.com/E995qKO.jpg Way to go, Michael! You've successfully change your May 15, 2015, content to what it reads now. BTW, StakeMiners Ponzi's anniversary isn't till two weeks from now. Quote Stakeminers has reached it's first year in business (March 2016). The business offer to stake your bitcoin deposit in altcoins and to make weekly payouts from the altcoins, sold for bitcoin, of your portion of the earnings from the stake pool operation. Payouts continue to be made each Monday. One of the dowsides to the POS (proof of stake) model is that as the investments in the stake pool increase, each stateholders % decreases. Investors need to understand this and plan a reinvestment strategy. Stakeminers will be of interest to clients with a tolerance for high risk. If Leroy Fodor is truly looking out for his Investards, then why is he soliciting more StakeMiners Ponzi Investards that will decrease current Investards' % returns. And, if StakeMiners is truly not a Ponzi, then why are you instructing current Investards to deposit more funds into the scheme so to better earn a more betterer % return? And, why aren't you telling current and future Investards that any moneys they now deposit into StakeMiners Not a Ponzi won't be able to be withdrawn till at least two years down the road, that not being the case earlier this year when earlier Investards deposited funds believing that they'll be able to withdraw them anytime sans a fee, now it's a fee and years out AND NO DIVIDENDS? That makes you, Michael Zinck, a fuckin' scammer. HAHAHA Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 04, 2016, 11:54:25 PM https://www.facebook.com/sascha.vodorodoff/posts/160380634350336:0
Quote Caшa Boдopoдoв Why you delete all questions? If you not want questions tell that on facebook page. Then I not waste time. I ask many questions because your numbers not sum up and not correct on blockchain and you not answer simple question. Then you delete all. Very bad communication. StakeMiners.com Since you are not comfortable with the information provided to date then we understand you will not be investing with us, and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinck on behalf of Stakeminers. https://i.imgur.com/22ERCdO.jpg Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 05, 2016, 12:58:54 AM Damn how wrong I was about that one. The question-asker was banished quickly and by Zinck himself... fantastic PR team. I guess you can't have all those filthy facebookers asking questions when you're running a collapsing ponzi "designed to provide you with a weekly payout" <-- yep, that's an actual quote from StakeMiners FB page.
Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 05, 2016, 02:48:26 AM Damn how wrong I was about that one. The question-asker was banished quickly and by Zinck himself... fantastic PR team. I guess you can't have all those filthy facebookers asking questions when you're running a collapsing ponzi "designed to provide you with a weekly payout" <-- yep, that's an actual quote from StakeMiners FB page. http://my.fool.com/profile/profithog/info.aspx https://i.imgur.com/BtoV7So.jpg http://www.fool.com/investing/brokerage/how-to-invest-20-100-and-1000-and-more.aspx https://i.imgur.com/0Jq7ihS.jpg Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 05, 2016, 03:25:47 AM I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names? Their forum names and twitter handles and such. What's going on is quite simple - cyberpinoy aka Leroy Fodor collected 120 BTC worth of "investments" and now has roughly ~20 BTC while the rest evaporated due to his astoundingly stubborn ineptitude masked by a massive stream of lies and other bullshit. The gang in the pictures is his "board" that supports this idiocy with varying levels of aggression. Terrik is a good example - plainly refused to look at any evidence showing cyberpinoy's lies. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 05, 2016, 03:37:16 AM I'm not familiar with what's going on here--what are those names underneath their real names? Their forum names and twitter handles and such. What's going on is quite simple - cyberpinoy aka Leroy Fodor collected 120 BTC worth of "investments" and now has roughly ~20 BTC while the rest evaporated due to his astoundingly stubborn ineptitude masked by a massive stream of lies and other bullshit. The gang in the pictures is his "board" that supports this idiocy with varying levels of aggression. Terrik is a good example - plainly refused to look at any evidence showing cyberpinoy's lies. Rest assured that I'm sane, albeit I have gone on some crazy tangents either on purpose or by nature due to fucking up while presenting the facts as I perhaps incorrectly interpreted them. In fact, I've even gotten saner after discontinuing eggnog enemas (note that I even spelt eggnog correctly) in lieu of spelt wheat enemas (just Googled spelt, hence the added humor). Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 05, 2016, 04:50:21 AM https://www.facebook.com/sascha.vodorodoff/posts/160380634350336:0 Quote Caшa Boдopoдoв Why you delete all questions? If you not want questions tell that on facebook page. Then I not waste time. I ask many questions because your numbers not sum up and not correct on blockchain and you not answer simple question. Then you delete all. Very bad communication. StakeMiners.com Since you are not comfortable with the information provided to date then we understand you will not be investing with us, and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinck on behalf of Stakeminers. https://i.imgur.com/22ERCdO.jpg The following is all that Michael Zinck deleted: Speaking of serious invest questions... if you go to: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1738418506382130&id=1627849564105692 And click on the "1 comment" and expand the whole thing (sorry, I don't know how to link more directly) there is some hilarity going on. Edit: screenshot http://i.snag.gy/HdkkA.jpg (very large image) I'll just copy and paste the entire thing, forgoing formatting it correctly (image at end): Quote StakeMiners.com February 22 at 9:28pm · Stakeminers - What's Your Income Goal? Stakeminers is designed to provide you with a weekly payout. But how much bitcoin do you need to deposit to reach your goal? Good question and here's the formula. Say I want to earn $25 USD per week: $25 per week x 52 weeks = $1300 per year. Divide $1300/0.5% base earnings = 2600/$400 USD BTC price = 6.5 BTC. But let's say I only have 2 BTC, how much will I earn each week? Reverse the formula. 2 BTC x $400 USD BTC price = $800 x 0.5% base earnings = 400/ 52 weeks = $7.69 USD per week. So what are you waiting for, let us help you reach your goal. Sign up today, deposit today, and start getting a payout next Monday! ----------------------------------------------------- Stakeminers earnings and the USD BTC price will vary and values shown here are to illustrate the math. Stakeminers.com is a crypto-currency altcoin Proof of Stake (POS) company with current holdings in 10 altcoins. We provide our clients with a variable rate of return generated from our stake pool earnings. Please see our website Stakeminers.com or email us at: info (at) stakeminers.com for more information. Like Like Love Haha Wow Sad Angry CommentShare Top Comments 1 Comments Viz Daq Write a comment... Press Enter to post. Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв This is complicate. Tell me simple. I give you 50 BTC. How much you pay per week? Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:03pm Hide 23 Replies StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Right now our weekly income is 1/2%. last year we did very well and reached up to 2% a week. But past performance can not always decide future results. So as of right now our weekly income is providing us with 1/2% a week return on what we have deposited. This is much Much higher than any back account such as Savings accounts offering up to 1.05% a YEAR, 5 year CDs are up to 2.2% a YEAR and Money Markets are offering 1.11% a YEAR. We are also allowing people to earn better than 60% of the Dividend Stocks available for investment right now. We can not give a direct estimation, becasue we would never want to mislead anyone. We can only tell you what we are earning at the present moment and what we were able to deliver in the past. We are also working continuously to provide a higher weekly return to the members. Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:55pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com what kind of weekly income are you looking to receive, that may be a better way to approach your situation. I think for me its better to look at our system with the question of how much do i want to make every week, rather than how much can I make off any specific amount. You may not need to invest 50 BTC to earn the income you are seeking to reach. Maybe for what you are looking to earn with us weekly you could invest less and be able to diversify your investment amount in more than one portal, which is always advisable. Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:59pm · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв If I go to bank they tell how much percent I make after month or after year. If I buy stock they tell approximate how much percent dividend it pay. Your site is like bank or like stock? What is worst case percent? Like · Reply · February 29 at 8:15pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв Right now 1/2% a week is our lowest rate of return we have seen since we started and a little over 2% a week is the best we have seen. A 50 BTC deposit would actually increase this weekly return a little, possibly getting it very near 1% a week. As an example a few weeks ago we saw 3/4% for one week, so our returns move depending on what the coins are worth on the market. We try and give you an approximate ammount based on what we know and have experienced. But we do not control the values of the coins we are staking, those values are decided upon by the markets. However the more coins we hold in our portfolio the higher our weekly income becomes. Because the more we hold the more we earn. I would not say we are like a Bank or Stocks, I was just giving a comparison to what is available out there people are investing in on a long term mindset. I like to inform people, but I never want to mislead them into putting their BTC with us, I would rather you have lower amounts in your calculation than higher than expected estimates. because if we can over perform on what you expect it is a win win for both of us. Where as if you are expecting 2% and we can not deliver that, you will be dissatisfied with the return you expected and I will be unhappy I could not deliver what you felt I promised you. Like · Reply · February 29 at 8:25pm Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв What is 1/2%? Is 1% or 2%? Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:15pm Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв You have page with past percent earning? Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:16pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв Yes when you log in there is a chart that shows the returns for a 1 BTC investment over the history of the site. 1/2% is half of 1% I am not sure how to really explain that one for you. So, right now the weekly income is 1/2% of what your deposited amount is. Also you can follow our weekly updates they will say exactly what we got in returns for each week also to keep informed on what is going on with our income. Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:36pm · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв I not understand 1 BTC chart. Why is chart USD? Do you have numbers BTC? Or percent? I not use USD. I understand percent now. Half 1% is 0.5% worst case. 120 BTC you have invested you pay 0.5% is 0.6 BTC per week yes? And 50 BTC pay 0.25 BTC per week yes? Like · Reply · 1 · February 29 at 10:04pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com The USD part of the chart is for the clients who are selling their BTC for USD after they receive their weekly payout. Not everyone uses our service for just BTC benefit, a lot of us exchange our income for USD. And you are correct in your second paragraph. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 6:59pm · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв I look payout page https://stakeminers.com/transactions.php It include withdraws? How much is withdraw how much is percent pay? Last week 0.76638050 BTC Like · Reply · Yesterday at 7:14pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com There are other withdraws which are not in BTC paid out in the week. People who are withdrawing coins they have deposited. So in addition to the BTC payouts and withdraws we also have direct coin withdraws that are processed. Last week we had both Netcoin and BitBean withdraws in addition to that number you have quoted. Next wek we will have some HyperStake and RateCoin withdraws, and so on and so forth. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:06pm · Edited StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Remember this is a Staking pool, and there are number of ways members can deposit. StakeMiners.com also allows current coin stakers who want to generate a higher income than staking on thier own an ability to do so. We are one of the first POS pools that was designed to cater to as many different crypto enthusiasts as we could, so we also allow people to invest BTC to earn an income as well. StakeMiners | The Future of PoS Mining Stakeminers.com is the FIRST public multi coin… STAKEMINERS.COM Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:09pm Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв is payout page https://stakeminers.com/transactions.php not include withdraws? or some withdraws? I ask how much 0.76638050 BTC is withdraws and how much is dividend. I not find this numbers on site. StakeMiner | The Future of PoS Mining StakeMiners.com is the FIRST public multi coin staking pool. It is the Future of POS Mining. STAKEMINERS.COM Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:20pm StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Yes sir I understand you are using the transactions page to try and calculate a return, and you are correct that number does not include all the withdraws, just the BTC related information, (BTC payouts and Withdraws). You are trying to base your calculations on how many BTC have been deposited Site Wide, as a total of BTC plus the value of the altcoins that were deposited at the time they were deposited. Basing your returns from the site wide valuations is not going to give you the return you are expecting. The 1/2% calculation is based on what account holders are receiving at the moment. But in there 0.41 BTC was payouts. which if you do a site wide valuation it would seem equal to 1.3% that week Due to different coin price variances and market conditions, which is not what account holders are receiving, so for me if I based our weekly returns on the actual BTC value we are holding in altcoins site wide as you are trying to do, then it would be misleading as you would be expecting to get 1.3% a week when account holders are actually getting 1/2% a week. As I mentioned calculations and estimations are not easy for a Multicoin POS pool such as ours, Due to the diversification in our portfolio and the many different coin markets price variations and movements, the slightest mistake in calculations could mislead someone into thinking they will get a better return than we could actually provide. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:12pm · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв I write above "120 BTC you have invested you pay 0.5% is 0.6 BTC per week yes?" and you say is correct. But you say now it is 0.41 BTC payout. It is 0.6 BTC or 0.41 BTC? 0.5% or not? This confusing. You have all numbers on one place? on website? Like · Reply · 3 hrs StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com The yes is to the 1/2% returns, and actually as I said if you based it on the BTC holdings of the site, the amount would be more equal to 1.3% which is higher than 1/2% account holders are receiving which could be misleading if we used site wide valuations. The answer to your question is right now members are receiving 1/2% of thier deposited amount, so YES members are getting 1/2% a week of their deposited amount. So if you deposited 120 BTC YES (BASED ON CURRENT PAYOUTS) you would be receiving 0.6 BTC per week. Our income is paying 1/2% a week right now to our members. Like · Reply · 2 hrs · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв ok how much money site has invested now? says 121.05915991 BTC Invested on dashboard. Should have 0.6 per week transaction payout, no? Why is 0.41 BTC? Like · Reply · 2 hrs StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Becasue the value of the coins we hold have decreased due to factors out of our control. There has been a large increase in BTC value which has pushed altcoin values down right now, and a situation with an insolvent/hacked exchange which cause large sell pressure on altcoin markets that was abnormal. This is why in our chart you also see a USD value of returns in addition to BTC value, so people looking to get their USD value out of their income can see what they are making also. 121 BTC has been deposited over the past year, and just over 130 has been paid out over this past year, the altcoin values are closer to 35 BTC right now due to market conditions. Like · Reply · 2 hrs · Edited StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com For your investment I would suggest you purchase one of the coins we stake directly and invest with that. or if you are looking to invest 50 BTC get a handful of all of them, and then do not reinvest but get a weekly paycheck. Do not buy them all at once put in buy orders and wait until they are filled. A 50 BTC investment is a large amount of buy pressure on markets and you never want to drop that much on a market all at once. This is why we usually do the buying for the clients, we serve as a cloud service where you do not have to do any of the work related to earning an income with us, we make sure you get the most for your money we can possibly provide, Our Vice Chairman has another suggestion for a client of your stature who could probably go over some other options for you, but he is out of his country at the moment. I just want to make sure you are well informed, understand the system, how it is our income is generated, and what you can safely expect from our service. For me right now the best way for that to happen may be for you to purchase the coins we stake and deposit those. Like · Reply · 2 hrs · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв ok i not understand this numbers. can you tell a - how much deposited total per year b - hoe much withdraw total per year c - how much week payout total per year d - how much decrease value total per year e - how much have now and should be a - b - d = e, yes? and if c < d then bad investment, yes? Like · Reply · 1 hr · Edited StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com We have only been here for a year, and the sites numbers are correct. A- 121 BTC ( this numbers changes every week due to withdraws and reinvestments. B - 130 BTC have been paid out since we launched C - Clients are earning 1/2% of what they deposit per week right now D - This number fluctuates all year long, In the beginning of the year last year we saw an increase of +72% in our holdings. The most recent weekly update on this page shows we have -75% decrease in value for the altcoins we hold. Like · Reply · 1 hr · Edited Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв i look 1 BTC chart on dashboard and add all BTC numbers 0.01646596 + 0.06066700 + 0.08548808 + 0.10078224 + 0.11290820 + 0.08299243 + 0.07019654 + 0.04485757 + 0.03531942 + 0.03003435 = 0.63971179 about 64% if invested one BTC at beginning. How did you do 130 BTC payouts on 121 BTC invested? Like · Reply · 1 hr Caшa Boдopoдoв Caшa Boдopoдoв ok... maybe my language is not good a - how much deposits only without withdraws b - how much withdraws only without payouts c - how much week payout only without withdraw d - 75% of 121 BTC? so 90 BTC yes? e - how much now site has? you have this numbers yes? like you do accounting and check if sum is correct and you doing good or bad. Same I would check if sum is correct a - b - d = e and if c < d then I know if good investment or bad. Like · Reply · 1 hr http://i.snag.gy/HdkkA.jpg EDIT: More quotes: StakeMiners.com C is less than D yes you are correct. Like · Reply · 22 mins StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com C is less than D yes you are correct. Like · Reply · 21 mins StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв " i look 1 BTC chart on dashboard and add all BTC numbers 0.01646596 + 0.06066700 + 0.08548808 + 0.10078224 + 0.11290820 + 0.08299243 + 0.07019654 + 0.04485757 + 0.03531942 + 0.03003435 = 0.63971179 about 64% if invested one BTC at beginning. How did you do 130 BTC payouts on 121 BTC invested?" That is a single account holding 1 BTC with us, and as you can see by your calculations it would seem that account gained 64% in one year of returns. the other 2 numbers you have listed are site wide (All the members together) and the payouts are week one plus week two plus week 3 and so on until 12 months later equaling a total amount paid as 130 BTC. Like · Reply · 5 mins Caшa Boдopoдoв StakeMiners.com how can be different? if 1 BTC pay 64% how can all 121 BTC pay 130 BTC that is more than 100%? Like · Reply · 19 mins StakeMiners.com StakeMiners.com The weekly return on Current deposits with us is 1/2%. As I stated 20 messages up, you are trying to base a return on site wide values which include past performance which will not tell you what a specific account holder can earn right now. Account holders are making 1/2% a week. If you would like to earn 1/2% a week than we are an opportunity for you. If that is to low a return for your expectations I apologize, but right now with current market conditions that is what we are paying. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 05, 2016, 04:55:01 AM https://www.facebook.com/sascha.vodorodoff/posts/160380634350336:0 Quote Caшa Boдopoдoв Why you delete all questions? If you not want questions tell that on facebook page. Then I not waste time. I ask many questions because your numbers not sum up and not correct on blockchain and you not answer simple question. Then you delete all. Very bad communication. StakeMiners.com Since you are not comfortable with the information provided to date then we understand you will not be investing with us, and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinck on behalf of Stakeminers. https://i.imgur.com/22ERCdO.jpg More convo between the Russian dude and Michael Zinck: https://www.facebook.com/sascha.vodorodoff/posts/160380634350336:0 StakeMiners.com Since you are not comfortable with the information provided to date then we understand you will not be investing with us, and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinckl on behalf of Stakeminers. Caшa Boдopoдoв I ask a simple question. I know you have that information but you not answer. If you answer then I know if I'm comfortable with that information. Now looks you hide something and you say that I'm not comfortable but I not said that. I just want to know some things. If you not want customers know things but give you money then say so on your facebook. Save time waste for people. StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв If you want to see how the business works then make an investment. The minimum is 0.05 BTC, take the risk and see for yourself. If after 90 days it is not earning to your satisfaction then ask for a principal withdrawal. We can arrange to pay you out immediately. Michael Zinck for Stakeminers. Caшa Boдopoдoв You want I pay to learn about your business instead of telling me a simple number. That is weird. I also read on other sites that your numbers is not correct and you yell at other people. Not looks like honest business. StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв Then let's leave it at that and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinck for Stakeminers. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 03:01:27 AM It was come to my attention that Michael Zinck is not just an unpaid BOI Trustee, but a paid employee of StakeMiners, albeit paid how I haven't a clue, but he is an admin of StakeMiners, that's 100% for sure.
I dare anyone to ask me for proof. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 05:14:08 AM It was come to my attention that Michael Zinck is not just an unpaid BOI Trustee, but a paid employee of StakeMiners, albeit paid how I haven't a clue, but he is an admin of StakeMiners, that's 100% for sure. I dare anyone to ask me for proof. I double-dare you. Don't make me pen triple-dare. HAHAHA Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 12:51:42 PM It was come to my attention that Michael Zinck is not just an unpaid BOI Trustee, but a paid employee of StakeMiners, albeit paid how I haven't a clue, but he is an admin of StakeMiners, that's 100% for sure. I dare anyone to ask me for proof. I double-dare you. Don't make me pen triple-dare. HAHAHA Okay, you fuckers made me do it! I now triple-dare you. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2016, 03:28:43 PM I'm waiting for the dog to get in there.
Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 08:12:42 PM I'm waiting for the dog to get in there. Is that code for "I triple-dare you"? Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2016, 08:16:25 PM I'm waiting for the dog to get in there. Is that code for "I triple-dare you"? I thought triple-dog-dare beats triple-dare but it's been a while since elementary school so I might be missing the latest trends. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 10:03:15 PM I'm waiting for the dog to get in there. Is that code for "I triple-dare you"? I thought triple-dog-dare beats triple-dare but it's been a while since elementary school so I might be missing the latest trends. I may or may not have missed the "dog" connection, but if I did, again, not saying that I didn't, then I'll consider that what I've requested which, BTW, what was it? ::) Give me a sec while I take a screenshot of the email sent to me by some other, including a quick comment. On second that, I'll forgo the comment so that I can comment on it so to increase my and this thread's post count. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 10:11:30 PM The following is all that he(?) sent me accompanying a quick note allowing me to post the following (I wasn't privy to the content of the initial email, albeit it may be somewhat surmised given Michael Zinck's reply).
https://i.imgur.com/bdew9O1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Kup8OyW.jpg Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 08, 2016, 10:45:20 PM The following is all that he(?) sent me accompanying a quick note allowing me to post the following (I wasn't privy to the content of the initial email, albeit it may be somewhat surmised given Michael Zinck's reply). https://i.imgur.com/bdew9O1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Kup8OyW.jpg <The following text was included, thus apologies for its formatting since I'm not the recipient otherwise I would've formatted it accordingly (no text accompanied the first image)> Quote Michael Zinck <mszinck@gmail.com> To proxess@yahoo.com Mar 6 at 5:58 AM Prox Ess, The minimum deposit period is 90 days. You can request a withdrawal after that time. We keep your personal information confidential and only use the information to understand from what countries our customers come from. The bitcoin address. The bitcoin address you register with is the one we will send your weekly payments to. The email address. The email address you register with is the one we will use to contact you. Our support will contact you at this email address to resolve the deposit problem. If you have any other questions please email us. Thank you, Michael Zinck 10 Fernwood Ave, Moncton, NB E1A 2W4 Email:mszinck@gmail.com / Tele:+1 506-204-8758 Stakeminers - The Future of PoS Mining Since when did the practice start of companies giving email addresses to non-employees, in this case Michael Zinck, ONLY a non-paid StakeMiners BOI Trustee who had to pay no less than 1 BTC to become a Trustee? If my memory serves me well, Leroy Fodor was obsessed with not relaying bitcoin wallet address out of fear that they could be hacked, but he has no problem giving a non-employee with no background check a potential client their email address. This begs the question: What else is Michael Zinch privy to pertaining to StakeMiners? EDIT: I just saw some text of the original message sent to StakeMiners. I think I need glasses, for I haven't a clue as to how I missed it. Perhaps because it's faint and I mistook it as part of the header et al. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2016, 11:36:47 PM Since when did the practice start of companies giving email addresses to non-employees, in this case Michael Zinck, ONLY a non-paid StakeMiners BOI Trustee who had to pay no less than 1 BTC to become a Trustee? If my memory serves me well, Leroy Fodor was obsessed with not relaying bitcoin wallet address out of fear that they could be hacked, but he has no problem giving a non-employee with no background check a potential client their email address. This begs the question: What else is Michael Zinch privy to pertaining to StakeMiners? We already know that Zinck is managing StakeMiners Facebook account too. Could it be that Leroy decided to throw uncle Mike under the bus and dedicate himself to Counterstrike and faucets instead? That would be unfortunate because Zinck is even more clueless about crypto, impossible as it may sound. Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 09, 2016, 02:00:28 AM Since when did the practice start of companies giving email addresses to non-employees, in this case Michael Zinck, ONLY a non-paid StakeMiners BOI Trustee who had to pay no less than 1 BTC to become a Trustee? If my memory serves me well, Leroy Fodor was obsessed with not relaying bitcoin wallet address out of fear that they could be hacked, but he has no problem giving a non-employee with no background check a potential client their email address. This begs the question: What else is Michael Zinch privy to pertaining to StakeMiners? We already know that Zinck is managing StakeMiners Facebook account too. Could it be that Leroy decided to throw uncle Mike under the bus and dedicate himself to Counterstrike and faucets instead? That would be unfortunate because Zinck is even more clueless about crypto, impossible as it may sound. Looks like Mr. Leroy "Transparent" Fodor forgot to inform folks that when sending info to StakeMiners, a person supposedly not on the payroll is going to be privy to their email address. My bad! Michael Zinck forgot to mention that he's the one that'll be replying to StakeMiners' email. I have to admit that it didn't occur to me that Leroy would have any other reading internal correspondence. Boy, he fuckin' proved me wrong on that count. Quote The minimum deposit period is 90 days. You can request a withdrawal after that time. We keep your personal information confidential and only use the information to understand from what countries our customers come from. ... If you have any other questions please email us. Thank you, Michael Zinck 10 Fernwood Ave, Moncton, NB E1A 2W4 Email:mszinck@gmail.com / Tele:+1 506-204-8758 Stakeminers - The Future of PoS Mining Michael Zinck failed to state how long it'll take for the dude to get his principle back after 90 days when he's first able to request a withdrawal. Michael doesn't mention what position he holds at StakeMiners in spite of him penning "us" at the end of the correspondence. Also, he, too, can't correctly write the brand's name - Stakeminers instead of StakeMiners. The fuckin' retards don't even know how to use a spellchecker. Notice in the image below that StakeMiners in not underlined but Stkminers and Stakeminers is. https://i.imgur.com/ddu1LH6.jpg Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 09, 2016, 03:03:24 AM The following is all that he(?) sent me accompanying a quick note allowing me to post the following (I wasn't privy to the content of the initial email, albeit it may be somewhat surmised given Michael Zinck's reply). https://i.imgur.com/bdew9O1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Kup8OyW.jpg https://forum.gethashing.com/t/ponzi-pos-coin-staking-stakeminers-com/3925/1089 Quote Your account info is locked, there is no need for any of that becasue in order to change anything it must be requested by you, then it is verified by you confirmed by you and then manually changed by me. 2FA is useless on our site, because no one but you can make changes to your account. I am your 2FA and FYI (ME) the sender has direct access to your account and I dont need to log into your account to do that. But again you already know that, you just want to make a useless fuss Looks like that's no longer the case, and that Michael Zinck can now read all correspondence to and from StakeMiners including the clear text passwords sent to all its Investards, even if they requested a changed password, that, too, was and is sent via clear text to them. Fuckin' amazin'! Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 10, 2016, 06:00:27 AM https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/1934242_10153196703561956_6934205441923222796_n.jpg?oh=51ad8b6ca68be455d4bde271f1bc7405&oe=575C0EA9
"Then the traveler came to a fork in the road where two men stood. One was a truth-teller and the other was a Leroy Fodor. The traveler was instructed that he could only ask one question to either of them to ascertain which road to take to his destination. Having been on a similar path before, he knew exactly what to ask, but the Leroy Fodor deleted his question seconds after it was asked." Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 13, 2016, 05:11:12 AM Michael Zinck is now involved in another scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435597.msg14521251#msg14521251
Title: Re: WARNING!: Michael Zinck is a scammer advancing a Ponzi scheme! Post by: Spoetnik on April 13, 2016, 10:46:30 AM Interesting.. seeing the title i was thinking "M. Wilterdink" LOL
Nope.. another new Koolaid drinker :D No offense to Koolaid either, i love the stuff ! @suchMoon i liked the Picture good work ! I really liked the last guy diamante's picture he must use lots of hair gel and his parents must have been nuts to give him a name like that. I think this crew illustrates the problem that persists in Crypto. It's just a free for all for scammers. There is so much of it and so many me-too greedy idiots, they can simply blend into the crowd and cry FUD for bucks $$$ endlessly ..seemingly unstoppable. Apparently the carrot of greed being dangled in front of Investard noses is just too much to resist. Anyway Wilterdink (Terrik) has been cyberpinoy's bum buddy for ages on this scammy shit so i don't want him forgotten either.. the two of them sat on Cryptsy chat scamming until the doors closed. Another saga that seems to have no end in sight. And Gleb Gamow sane ? Would it matter ? All that matters is what he posts is true.. i am sure he makes a solid effort to be legit. That is all i need. Sanity is subjective (not really) LOL |
