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Title: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 01:34:53 PM
Hi.
I got segnalation of deleted message in a thread, deleted some 2 weeks ago.

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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Please, explain, why there is such activity of moderators, if whole thread is just deleted/closed?


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 09, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
Please, explain, why there is such activity of moderators, if whole thread is just deleted/closed?
Moderators usually act independently which you should know if you read the rules of this forum. We can't know who did this without more information (how about link to the thread?). The real question is why does this matter to you? That whole thread is garbage.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
We can't know who did this without more information (how about link to the thread?). The real question is why does this matter to you? That whole thread is garbage.

Thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686828.4260
The thread was loved by many users, and got many thousands of views, it's so hard to call garbage.
This is more about envy of so sucessful thread.

Someone was so heartburning about my asking of quality of service of one site, that he began to complain of my other messages.

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  The real question is why does this matter to you? 

I'm worried if such removal may lead to ban.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 09, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
The thread was loved by many users, and got many thousands of views, it's so hard to call garbage. This is more about envy of so sucessful thread.
The number of posts and views does tell one nothing about the quality of the thread. This thread is full of random nonsense, ergo has no value, ergo garbage (definitely not successful).

I'm worried if such removal may lead to ban.
I don't see a specific reason for which this image would be removed from that thread. I also do not think that these is a reason for which this removal could lead to your ban.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 09, 2016, 05:16:22 PM
OK. Thank You.

P.S.
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I don't see a specific reason for which this image would be removed from that thread.

I have find this as a strange activity, to search something to delete in a closed 2 weeks long thread.
This is one of some other PM about deleted messages from the same place.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 09, 2016, 05:33:09 PM
I have find this as a strange activity, to search something to delete in a closed 2 weeks long thread.
This is one of some other PM about deleted messages from the same place.
A few months ago I had one or multiple posts that were ~2 years old (IIRC) deleted. It can happen. Unless the moderator who did it replies or contacts you directly then you might never know. You can message the global moderators (there are 3) directly to find out. However, since it is just a single post and the thread is locked I think that it does not matter. Might not be worth yours and their time.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: james.lent on March 10, 2016, 12:24:33 AM
You should read this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1334019.0


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: iCEBREAKER on March 10, 2016, 02:28:24 AM
I've enjoyed the Pics from Russia thread.

Very nice insight into vast regions and unique people unseen and unknown by many in the West.

Before reading it, I did not know there were more (and crazier) rednecks in Siberia than in Alabama!   :D

I hope the same humorless standard is not applied to the Wall Observer thread, which would also be closed for being full of silly fun and frivolity.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Zeke2345 on March 10, 2016, 02:36:50 AM
Funny you mention that Russian thread, was looking at the modlog and saw a lot deleted from that thread. Was going to open a thread here about mods hating Russia! :P


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 08:52:50 AM
I've enjoyed the Pics from Russia thread.

Thank You.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: hilariousandco on March 10, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
I believe someone reported it for multiple bumps/consecutive posts in the same day so someone probably just handled that report instead of deleting all the others.

I'm worried if such removal may lead to ban.

You're lucky you haven't been banned already with the spam advertising and trolling in others threads. I suggest you calm down if you're worried about being banned.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: mexxer-2 on March 10, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
You're lucky you haven't been banned already with the spam advertising and trolling in others threads. I suggest you calm down if you're worried about being banned.
Yeah, to list a few:
1) Sales-trashing/promoting his service in other's thread
2) Trolling in multiple threads
3) Warning regarding the NSFW avatar, probably 2 times by now
4) Multiple bumps
5) Multiple posts in a row, ironically(?) in this thread as well

The most annoying being the 3rd one


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
and trolling in others threads.

I'm really was interested in "other service" promoted on this forum, but i have find nothing of few on promised URL.
And if i was writing about it in dedicated thread, to become the answers on problems, i become a long serie of personal insults from signature compain members.
You ignore the fact of the same problem, claimed by minimum of tree other Forum users.
In this way - there was no trolling, and i have post the screenshots of promoted URL page with No service available.

The funniest is calling to use a VPN to resolve my problem by "ufficial Model" and it goes against privacy setting of other models.
A so bad place to working for models.

Absolutely - no trolling, just notice of big problems and testing to resolve them.

3) Warning regarding the NSFW avatar, probably 2 times by now


No warnings about my avatar.

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Sales-trashing/promoting his service in other's thread
What is bad in promoting a Bitcoin accepting digital product "online live chat service" "in other's thread"?
There is a "self moderating" option, for the jealous people for arguments in thread.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 10, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
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Sales-trashing/promoting his service in other's thread
What is bad in promoting a Bitcoin accepting digital product "online live chat service" "in other's thread"?
It is against the rules. Rules which you probably have not read. Depending on the case one could classify it as thread hijacking.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 10:31:58 AM

It is against the rules. Rules which you probably have not read. Depending on the case one could classify it as thread hijacking.

I have read "the rules".
This version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994018.0

There is nothing similar to "thread hijacking" and talking about bitcoin accepting digital services "in other's thread".
In what part of the rules is about "thread hijacking"?
If the thread is not in the "Marketplace", talking about various services help to bitcoin users for better money management and encrise the value of Bitcoin in real services.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: mexxer-2 on March 10, 2016, 10:33:28 AM

It is against the rules. Rules which you probably have not read. Depending on the case one could classify it as thread hijacking.

I have read "the rules".
This version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994018.0

There is nothing similar to "thread hijacking" and talking about bitcoin accepting digital services "in other's thread".
*Facepalm* Those are the rules for Russian board, which also by the way should be similar to the "Unofficial" rules of bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 10, 2016, 10:35:49 AM
There is nothing similar to "thread hijacking" and talking about bitcoin accepting digital services "in other's thread".
Depending on the case e.g. rule 22 can be applied. However, it should be obvious that you aren't allowed to hijack someones sales/service thread by promoting your own goods/services in it.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 10:40:25 AM
you aren't allowed to hijack someones sales/service thread by promoting your own goods/services in it.

Asking about the availability of promoted service is not against the rules, and i have posted the screenshots in relation with "no service" promised by promoter of service.
But there are no ansvers in relation with my claim and tree other forum users claims.
So, no trolling in that case and the confront of services is not against the USA law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR9hTcofU1E


*Facepalm* Those are the rules for Russian board

There is not indicated, that the rules are only for the Russian Language board here and other parts of Forum have some special Rules.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: mexxer-2 on March 10, 2016, 10:54:09 AM
Alright, you just got me digging. And I'm still surprised that you're not banned already

1) Multiple bumps
1.1)
It is your website?

Beronata Services
Themistokli Dervi 6,
1066, Nicosia, Cyprus

...

Beronata Services
Themistokli Dervi 6,
1066, Nicosia, Cyprus

http://beronata.com/faq (http://beronata.com/faq)
473   MODELS ARE CURRENTLY ONLINE

1.2


Holy WTF

On the left part of the page, You can select


-NSFW content-

Where are Your troubles in choice?

And Please, do not post Here faces of Models, You have no rights to pubilsh such images.



2) Self-advertising
How do You evaluate the level of anonymity on my signature bitcoin free webcam shows site,
there are free shows on public chat,
and for free membership You need only a e-mail from www.Yandex.com with no SMS verification?
On my signature webcam live chat shows site the membership is for free,
 so everyone stay anonymous there,
 You need pay any amount of tokens for cam2cam activation
 and for purchase of tokens to tip models
for this bitcoins are accepted.
There are 100% amateur Models.
Categories: Anal play, Babes, Big tits, Blonde, Brunette   , College girls, Hairy pussy, Mature, Medium tits, Redhead, Shaved pussy, Squirt, Small tits, Teens 18+, Toys, BBW, Big butt, Asian, Ebony, White Girls, Latina, Curvy, Petite Body, Muscle, Granny, Lesbian, Foot Fetish, Smoking, Group Sex, Huge Tits, Housewives, Pornstar, Pregnant, Bondage.

If go around the clock - there are Models from many countries. USA, Canada, EU countries, Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Thailand, ecc.
Who pay with credit card on my signature - will have "non porn related" pay note
Wrong.
www.VKcams.com give this possibility, even more.
NSFW

Here is the site www.VKcams.com , where people earn money online with bitcoin adult shows.
You can even see tips onine.
Every Token is $0.05

Working online as Webmodel, from Home can give much more, than $25 at Hour.
and some nudity page

There are ways, with No Face and No Nudity.

-NSFW Images with url-

Just "No Nude Modelling".

click on my signature and you'll see how much hotter it can get WINK WINK

LOL

Check the number of models online on my signature first.
304   MODELS ARE CURRENTLY ONLINE
And there are completely free public shows.
"Public show on free chat" - that mean - for free, absolutely. 24/7
No credit card, no bitcoin, only a valid e-mail.
Take one new free e-mail for this on https://mail.yandex.com/
-NSFW images wih url-
Who will - can use BTC for tokens purchase, to activate Cam2cam option and to tip models. t


Edit: Actually, nevermind I'm not even going to bother going through. If you don't reform your ways, a ban is coming, temp most likely


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 10, 2016, 11:06:29 AM


Edit: Actually, nevermind I'm not even going to bother going through. If you don't reform your ways, a ban is coming, temp most likely

Wow. I goes to search about "Self Advertising" Rule.
Will You help me?


If You go to see the thread in question, there is every picture as single message, and that thread was going not 1 day and not 1 Month long.
All moderators have visited that thread and have changed nothing.

Digg more :)

And I'm still surprised that you're not banned already
How it is possible to a so big "Rules-Nazi" as You to hijacking this thread with a so bullshit offtopic like this?
Respect the rules and use "Report to Moderator" button.

http://s019.radikal.ru/i624/1603/73/61312f226683.jpg

Do You have noticed this future on Forum?

This offtopic is a true 2 in 1 trolling attempt under the eyes of all Moderators.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Spoetnik on March 11, 2016, 09:08:09 AM
My 2 cents ?

Staff should just talk to this guy about what specifically you want him to do differently.
I don't see a need to ban the guy..

I seen his Russia topic and thought it was messy + large.
Possible problem could be is the topic is too vague and that many pictures
were found on an image hoster then added to that big topic (by Vika)
Which is padding the topic with a LOT of posts that seem random.

Had he made a topic called Hot women from Russia it would be more focused.
Like the "Hot Girls from Asia" topic - in off-topic

Then i see him pushing it a bit with his "service"
and if i am not mistaken wasn't codishmumu banned for that partly too ?
Is posting cam girl invites for BTC against the rules ? i have no idea LOL

Anyway i don't think he's trying to Troll ..and Trolling requires Intent. (beyond a reasonable doubt)
He seems like a good guy with some rough English skills though.

Hopefully you guys can get it sorted out..


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 11, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
Wow. I goes to search about "Self Advertising" Rule.
Will You help me?
It is simple. Do not post your service in other people's threads.

How it is possible to a so big "Rules-Nazi" as You to hijacking this thread with a so bullshit offtopic like this?
This offtopic is a true 2 in 1 trolling attempt under the eyes of all Moderators.
No. His post is actually very on topic with examples of your posts (haven't judged them).

Staff should just talk to this guy about what specifically you want him to do differently.
I don't see a need to ban the guy..
It is not up to the staff to explain the rules in baby steps to everyone. We can and obviously will help out, but if the user refuses to follow them or is unable to understand the rules then there is not much that we can do.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 11, 2016, 10:45:18 AM
but if the user refuses to follow them or is unable to understand the rules then there is not much that we can do.

 I see, that this forum have multiple rules, and they are written in many languages with no English translation.
I found regular "UP" message deleted in German forum and regular post with "referral url" deleted in Italian forum.
In the Italian forum i found a Rule, that there "are abled to write only Italians".
 This is a totaly to laugh and to declared as a racist Rule.
 After my claim, this rule seems was changed to better, but still with a streng attention
to "Italian Language usage".
In Italy are existing millions of people with very low knowlege of Italian Language
and they are cutted in this way from discussion about BTC
The moderator send them all to their language countries sections,
 but how does chinese in Italy to discuss in China section the questions about the Italian situation or EU situation?

All this local rules needs a translation to English, and a Warning about
 specific range of action to language section.
Non English Rules must have a warning about English and other section Rules.

Any local Rules need specific the main difference with global forum rules shortly and clear.

In this way this forum will be more clear to users.
=======================
About multiple messages - there exist a script to put all those messages in one. No idea how it is calling.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 11, 2016, 10:51:24 AM
This is a totaly to laugh and to declared as a racist Rule. After my claim, this rule seems was changed to better, but still with a streng attention to "Italian Language usage".
So a local sub-forum made for Italians who speak Italian is racist?
https://i.imgur.com/c4dXdIP.png

 I did not know 'Italian' was a race. :D


This is all written in the forum rules:
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9. Discussions in the main boards must be in English. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.
26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.

All this rules needs a translation to english, and a Warning about specific range of action to language section.
Non English Rules must have a warning about English and other section Rules.
No. This is a English speaking forum. I do not go to some random Russian forums and demand translations and neither should you do so here.

Any local Rules need specific the main difference with global forum rules shortly and clear.
That's is up to each individual local moderator. If you have a problem with some local section then talk to the sections moderator.


Is this supposed to be about you, and what rules you broke or the problems that you have with the forum? You're derailing your own thread.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 11, 2016, 11:07:07 AM

So a local sub-forum made for Italians who speak Italian is racist?
https://i.imgur.com/c4dXdIP.png

 I did not know 'Italian' was a race. :D

The Rule was exactly about "be Italian" to post in Italian section.
In this mode the Rule was a pure racist.
I'm living in Italy and i'm a Russian citizen and in this way was not able to write there.
The section is called "Italiano" and not "Italy".

Intention of moderator was to limite the use
of cheap mode of machine translations to Italian from foreigners in that section.

In this moment there are streng Rules about correct use of Italian Language in text
 and no more "be Italian" request.

(And there was a total ban of referral URL's.)

==================================

I will study better the English section Rules.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 11, 2016, 11:27:04 AM
I did not know 'Italian' was a race. :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Lauda on March 11, 2016, 01:42:48 PM
The Rule was exactly about "be Italian" to post in Italian section.
In this mode the Rule was a pure racist.
The local sections are for people to talk solely in specific languages. These sections are not on a per country basis. You are completely wrong here.

In this moment there are streng Rules about correct use of Italian Language in text
 and no more "be Italian" request.
The general rules (on found in this section) should apply to all sections. Additionally local moderators can introduce some rules as long as they don't contradict with the general rules.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
This has nothing to do with the 'racist rule'. I don't care about Italian laws.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: shorena on March 11, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
-snip-
I will study better the English section Rules.

Maybe create a translation yourself if you think one is missing. mprep will likely link it same as the other translations at the end of this[1] post.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: xandry on March 14, 2016, 04:42:56 AM
Maybe create a translation yourself if you think one is missing. mprep will likely link it same as the other translations at the end of this[1] post.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
We already have translation (only https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rules) with some explanations:
I have read "the rules".
This version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994018.0


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 14, 2016, 08:27:51 AM
We already have translation

Hi.
I'm talking about local Rules and the English version of Local Rules.

The local Rules are different in some sases from English Rules of the site.
For example - the Italian Language section. Just someone have called it " the section for Italians".
There was a total ban of referral codes and messages in English.
But no Info about in English Language about this issue.

Here i'm claimed about
"Topic Hijacking" and
"Self Promotion in other's threads",
so i see nothing about such problems in Russian Language Rules, or i'm partially blind.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: xandry on March 14, 2016, 08:43:32 AM
Hi.
I'm talking about local Rules and the English version of Local Rules.

The local Rules are different in some sases from English Rules of the site.
For example - the Italian Language section. Just someone have called it " the section for Italians".
There was a total ban of referral codes and messages in English.
But no Info about in English Language about this issue.

Here i'm claimed about "Topic Hijacking" and "Self Promotion in other threads", so i see nothing about such problems in Russian Language Rules, or i'm partially blind.
Diff. in global and local rules has a very simple explanation:
26. Local thread rules, if stated properly when the thread was started, specific enough and don't conflict with the forum rules, have to be followed.[e]
"Topic Hijacking" and "Self Promotion in other threads" can be attributed to rule 22 and 24.


Title: Re: Deleting messages in NSFW deleted threads. (NSFW)
Post by: Vika NSFW on March 14, 2016, 09:08:03 AM

"Topic Hijacking" and "Self Promotion in other threads" can be attributed to rule 22 and 24.

The Rule N.24 have the clear description, if someone is
 interested in a "Bitcoin Porn Site" and post a direct request of URL -
 there is nothing wrong to put a URL of "Bitcoin Accepting Live Webcam Site VKcams.com"