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well, here's the story:

once upon a time, a bitcointalk user ( Neotox )  dislike an answer a gave him , on an another user ( Kanapka )...  
 i was the escrow of the  sale of this account.. ( yes i know ... selling account is alowed by bitcointalk rules, but it's NOT a good thing for this forum, and SHOULDN'T  be allowed, that's my own opinion.. )

so, the reason of this conflict betwen me and Neotox was in the fact i left a good feedback for Kanapka while they have a minor conflict at this time. ( between Kanapka and Neotox ).

Neotox didnt like my answer at this time, so he start to spread fake accusations: ie:

 " kanapka is your alt account!.... blablabla... you have escrowing for yourself !... blablabla.."

here's the reference of this shit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184583.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1184583.0)

so, the result  was: i saw a sort of justiciary ( Vod ) thinking to be a sort of god in this forum left me a neg feedback , while i never heard from him before that , never had a deal with him  , even never talk with ..  result was my trust ranking fell down..  
the true of this story was : i NEVER , NEVER had any alt account on bitcointalk , NEVER !
( Neotox , On the other hand, buy and sell a lot of bitcointalk account, ( and probably escrow for himself ).
the sad part of this story was after doing a lot of trade in bitcointalk from several years now, i have lost a bit of credibility cause Vod and his fake bad feedback...

Now, after few month passed, i had contacted him few days ago for polite ask him to remove this stupid bad feedback, and when i wake up this morning, this what i've got in my forum messages:

everyone can judge by himself ... ;)

https://i.imgur.com/TWgdsdF.png

what kind of credibility could have this kind of user ?

another point about the originals accusations against me :  what could i win on an member rank account sale ?  1$ ?  ...   2$?  LMAO !

every body can  look at my trust ranking , and see i have deal for many bitcoins , and understand i haven't  NOTHING to win in escrowing an account sale ! ..

It's really sad to see how a trust ranking system could be abused with stupid fake accusations by some stupid users, and more sad to see how some "sheeps' users could follow them..   ;)

RESERVED  ;D

Can you do a tl;dr version? I'm not following what you're actually complaining about.

Also I don't think Vod's feedback has been removed and re-added, shows an old date:

https://meem.link/i/a/c4vs4.jpg
Edited 2020-11-28 to fix a broken image

yeah ! and this exactly why i said he's a liar.. for the same reason: date ..  he never removed anything.  , on this morning (look the time of his last post today on bitcointalk, and then look at the hour he left me the personnal message.......  ;)


https://i.imgur.com/hmIv8lS.png

Actually he means to say ( suchmoon ) that if Vod has deleted and re-added as per what you said mate, then why it shows a old date ?

I think he has a point but you have screenshots too, please explain how it shows a old date yet ( if he removed it and re-added ) , moreover can you verify that he sent such a message ? I mean by showing to someone like blazed ?

Why is it that certain people can not live without drama in their lives (regardless of personal or online)? It does not matter who Vod is.

He has been here for a very long time and has deserved his place.

It does not matter who he/she is but can you explain us how that message is relevant which VOD sent to OP ?

i applauze  ;D


 i had left him  my feedback at the same date ( 2015 ), , and i had removed my feedback... but i put it again on today , ( just look on his trust ranking ...  proof i HAD LEFT MINE , before putting it again on TODAY

absolutely no problem for me, to show the original message to any respectable user , like Blazed for example , Monbux , or .. Lauda  why not?  ;)

edit:

i"d just left a message to blazed on irc yet , ( bitcoin-otc)
[22:11:24] <defcon23> hello blazed
[22:11:29] <defcon23> good evening
[22:11:40] <defcon23> you're invoked here man ;)
[22:11:42] <defcon23> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1399668.msg14209328#new
[22:13:01] <defcon23> could i show you my screen , i need to show it to a respectable user , for a proof

This story is missing details for us noobs pressed up against the back wall trying to get view of the match.
Can I get a run down on names mentioned here and why they be pissing on each other?

I know VOD be grouchy at times but I do not know the other players besides Neo sells accounts.

RE the topic:

Vod's real name/address is:

Martin Lawrence
46 Sheridan Dr
St. Albert, Alberta Canada
source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704289.0)

If he has defamed you, harmed you or otherwise committed a tort against you, then you most likely will be able to serve him at the above address if you wish to pursue legal action against him. You will most likely not be able to maintain whatever level of anonymity that you have if you do wish to pursue legal action against him. Additionally, pursuing legal action against Vod may not be successful, even if the courts find that he has in fact broken the law due to the fact that Vod supposedly has a form of Tourettes (https://archive.is/GrD00), and a court may be reluctant to award a judgment for something that someone with Tourettes has said in the past, as doing so may be poor public policy.

RE the screenshot of the PM from Vod -- he is clearly trolling you, and has no interest in having a reasonable conversation with you.

 Thanx quickseller ( i think you know better as anyone here that mechanism where people lost their rep for nothing )  ;)

it's something like:

https://i.imgur.com/m9XVMGW.jpg

look at the sheeps ..  :D  That's exactly who Vod is .

edit:  

i repeat:  i'm ready to show the original message to anyone with enought respectability in this forum ! i still waiting for Blazed , or Monbux , or Lauda avaibility .., or anyone serious else .

again, THANX for this DOX ! i'will indeed start to use it ... in a legal way  ;)

Quickseller has had his fair share of leading witch hunts, so I don't know if I would give him too much sympathy. He does make himself useful occasionally. I am not sure it evens out though.

So Vod has tourettes...that explains SO much...

The OP doesn't seem to be interested in making this easier for us so I had to go digging. It looks like the conflict with Neotox revolves around this PM exchange and specifically the quoted part:

https://archive.is/Bqhr1#selection-2177.0-2191.12


It would appear that defcon23 is claiming that Kanapka has been sold. Neotox has an issue with a transaction conducted by Kanapka and asks when the account was sold (to determine if the sale was before or after the aforementioned transaction) but defcon23 is refusing to disclose the date. Neotox checks seclog, doesn't find a password change for Kanapka, and assumes that defcon23 is lying. Further Neotox makes a claim that Kanapka is an alt of defcon23 but I don't think there is any proof of that.

Kanapka denies the sale too:


And claims the misunderstanding happened due to defcon23's bad English.

I have no idea where Vod comes into the picture though.

Vod left a negative rating for the op regarding this dispute.

Thanx for clarifing these few things ;) that's exactly what happend. and my appologies to everybody for my very bad english ( yes i have to  admit it .. ) ;)

i agree to an another point with you: i haven't understood why Vod comes in this story... but it seems to be an usual attitude for him...  he should think to be a sort of sherif , justiciary,  or something like that... , or maybe he haven't any life or credibility outside this forum .. ;D   lmao


in regard of this:  
sorry dude , but that's not completly true, .. he just spread accusation without any proof  ( as they never exist ) , and that's how this guy grow is reputation , often baseless on nothing real, and this is really sad for all people who had to suffer of  this troll posts..  but : justice is coming .. for him and for Neotox.. trust me.

regards of this:

  = WRONG ! is it Neotox version?...  ;)

I'm confused now. Are you saying there was a password change for Kanapka? What's your version then?

 indeed man !  when you escrow a sale of an account , 1: asking a bitcoin signed message ( to ensure that's not an hacked account)
2: changing  the password of the account ( to avoid a possible scam of the seller, just after sale. )

so YES , this account password was changed, by ME ( the escrow )  , and this , before i gave the account to his new owner.

anyway: NEVER EVER escrowing for an account sale ( i repeat : what is shoudn't be allowed by bitcointalk rules.)

Actually what I said is true, he did leave you a negative rating, maybe I am confused as to what for. To be clear I am not saying you deserved the rating, just that he left it. I have also been the victim of Vod's abusive obsessive compulsive behavior. I completely believe he could have done this to you for no reason other than to make himself look/feel more important.

When was the Kanapka account sold? Give us the date or at least the year and the month.

ok ; crhonology:

https://i.imgur.com/IpKPAK7.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/IpKPAK7.png

then

https://i.imgur.com/rD0dnVE.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/85HpuZQ.png


then:


https://i.imgur.com/270GeBl.png


then:


https://i.imgur.com/oB4BUxs.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/y8OTuNq.png

then:


https://i.imgur.com/R3TfeGo.png

then:

https://i.imgur.com/6XcTyvB.png

then:

https://i.imgur.com/DoQCUIJ.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/vNVcset.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/rsKoKLQ.png

then:

https://i.imgur.com/kNiKpYe.png

then:

https://i.imgur.com/f7m7UlK.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/cUnUbQZ.png


then:

https://i.imgur.com/eLTnEsx.png


are you enought satisfied ?  ;)

humm... another sherif?? lol .. you're going to grow my public ignore list  dude ...   question : do you have a life outside this forum ?....  you are  another  alt of Neotox !  LOL

Well, I guess that's sorted then. I think I see now why Vod wouldn't feel compelled to remove the feedback.

Oh for christ's sake no one is going to do this, you yourself haven't done this with your self-escrow issue and lying about the ban evasion.

I've come to believe that Vod is 99% fair which isn't bad for being someone on the internet.  That's who Vod is.  He tends to be spot-on in picking out scams and has been doing this for years on this forum.  Look at his trust feedback--not that it's always accurate but in his case it pretty much is.

Self moderated threads do nothing to help peopled plights. Makes me uneasy when I see it and know I am not the only one.
Could have sworn Vod posted in this thread,was I wrong?

By all means, listen to Quickscammer and go harass the old lady that lives there.   ::)

http://www.canada411.ca/res/7804588933/M-Lawrence/225477863.html

Save yourself a plane ticket - the phone number is right there.  Call it at all hours.  (780) 458-8933



Coprolalia is quite common in people with high IQs - look it up!   Since verbal impulse control is not an issue on a forum, you obviously noticed my condition due to my intelligent posts.  I appreciate the compliment TS.  :)

I don't think making fun of people just for having a medical condition is funny. It wasn't meant to be a compliment or an insult, just an observation. Don't waste a good opportunity to masturbate yourself in public tho.

Well, I appreciate the compliment that was inferred in your observation.

Since I wrote that "About" page I read the book:

"You Are Not Your Brain"
https://www.amazon.ca/You-Are-Not-Your-Brain/dp/1583334831

Along with medication, it's helped me reduce my inappropriate verbal comments to almost zero.  :)

I highly recommend it to other intelligent people on the forum that have the same condition.  When your brain is running at 120% that of normal, you don't always stop and think "is this an appropriate comment" before speaking.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or comments.  I openly accept my condition and I'm happy to help others.  :)

I think you also have lots of work to do on your obsessive compulsive disorder which is also something commonly found in those with forms of tourettes. You certainly show the symptoms.

Thank you again for the compliment TS, but you are repeating yourself.  :)  Don't be upset - your obsessive compulsive disorder (as evidenced recently with your ongoing obsession with me) is to blame - not you personally.   Call your mom.  :)

Yes yes, the classic I am rubber you are glue defense. Just because I said your name in a thread referring to you does not make an obsession, even if it upsets you to the point you have to make things up about me to satisfy your compulsions.

The compulsive obsession stems from your continued attacks, in cooperation with Quickscammer.  Even months after I have posted about you.

If you want to distance yourself from that scammer, don't participate in his hate threads.

You need to let go of the anger man.   :-\

I did not suggest that anyone harass you at that address. I said that you should be able to be served with a legal process at that address if someone wanted to pursue legal action against you, and did not mind giving up their anonymity in doing so.

You're lying.  No one can serve me there because I don't live there.  And you know that.

But like I said, when you and your dozens of alts tell a lie often enough, people will believe it.   :-\

Not that I believe you, but please note the use of the word "should" in both of my posts about being able to serve you at that address.

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Anyway, I really have not seen any evidence that the OP was actually escrowing for himself, nor that he is an alt of the person he was supposedly escrowing for. The claim that the OP was escrowing his own deal appears to be based on speculation. I do acknowledge that the fact that the OP said that the Kanapka account was sold is strange, (it is possible that it was some kind of miscommunication) although it does not appear that any deal actually went back that Kanapka was involved in.

There is however solid evidence that Neotux (neotox?) was escrowing for himself in a signature campaign that he was managing (and escrowing for) as he had several of his alts enrolled (and accepted into) the campaign.

Here is your lie.  With all the time you have spent investigating me, you know I cashed in my coins at $600, you know I built my own dream house and you know a black woman lives at that address you claim is mine.  Why not do it properly, hire a PI and get the first name of the person living there.  Should not cost much at all with public utility records.  I guarantee you it won't be "Martin".  Unless you want to claim a black woman is my mother...

No one should trust your word in any context.   :-\

Fixed that for you. I didn't give a fuck about what you had to say until you decided to try to destroy my reputation and income over it.

Putting words in my mouth is the only way you'll win an argument with me.   :)

Good luck with the new medication.  

It doesn't matter if you say it, it is what you did. Badbear even told you to back off, but here you are at it again. Project some more Vod, I am sure it will fix all of your problems.

Hey, I have a right to defend myself against your lies.  I believe BB told you to back off as well, and here you go again.

Have your doctor increase your medication and stick to your business.  I have no interest in kicking you when you are down.

What lies? You mean like the lie you negative rated me for but couldn't quote? Would you like me to post the PM he sent us? I can do that if you insist on following me around like a sick puppy. I didn't before because I felt bad for you but it makes it hard to feel bad for you when you are stalking me. I am taking this to a more appropriate thread. Feel free to make more shit up here if it satisfies your ego.

 YOU are just a LIAR dude...  you gave me a bad rep for nothing , and you never remove anything , as the screenshot proove it....  wait now.. expect me..  8)

Hey OP, thanks for leaving me a negative. What was the reason again?
Was it because I've reported your reflink thread about a shop that doesn't even accept BTC?
That's a great reason to leave someone a negative feedback, congratulations OP.

go home pupy.. you love to report everyone for nothing here.. it seem you love report much as you can ... it's how you think you gona grow ?  lmao !   go back crying to your mumy  ;)

I have a feeling this post is going to get deleted, as the mods here seem to think my posts are nonconstructive.  So be it.  But Lutpin, you should probably expect more of this retaliatory feedback if you're going to be policing the forum.  Look at Vod's trust feedback, which is filled with bogus negatives.  Hell, even my trust feedback is filled with red from assholes who I called out on BS.  That's just the nature of the forum.

man , i have to admit it : you're absolutely right  ! and this is exactly why i hate this kind of users like vod, neotox, lutpin and ALL their alts. just have a look at their sents feedbacks , it seem they like ( and think ) growing their own reputations with many reports on over user ( often for no real reason ). just read ... , everyone can judge by themselve. they probably think they are win some credibility in denouncing much as possible... that's completly ashame, but it seem  they probably have no real life outside this forum...  that's why these trolls grow their life in this way..

just have a look to my signature: that's the thread lutpin have reported on yesterday ( and been removed so..)  he start by coming in this thread, ask if bitcoin is accepted, and blame me for putting my referal link.. you see ? what's his problem?  he maybe think to be a justiciary here? no : that's just a stupid kid who think wining more credibility in this forum with one more report  :D
That's not the first time... once again, look at his sents feedbacks  ( and reasons )

However, look at the general rank/age of the accounts leaving these retaliatory feedbacks. They are mostly new accounts who are annoyed that they didn't get their own way, correct?
To have someone who was once trusted enough to escrow, like defcon23, do exactly the same thing (because his thread was removed for breaking the rules) is nothing less of sad.

No, pretty much all feedback sent by the users you just listed is valid as they are on the Default Trust network. Should the feedback they leave be invalid, they would have been removed.

However, this doesn't happen. Newbies here have been scammed by people with red trust before, and it will continue to happen. Trying to say that people shouldn't leave feedback because others judge for themselves is wrong, because it doesn't happen.

"Hmm, I need to look mature to win this argument. I know! I'll insult the people that disagree with me for no reason!". Are you a child? Grow up.

So, you post a shop onto BitcoinTalk which doesn't take bitcoin, with a referral link (which is against the rules to post) and you're surprised that it was reported and removed. What did you expect to happen?

man , i'm not a teenager , 48 years old precisely.  so , keep your lessons please .