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Title: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: thejaytiesto on March 19, 2016, 05:18:49 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: eddyubachs on March 19, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
I think big traders and big gamblers must be holding that amount of bitcoins, but the common people who are working on campaign or offering services would not be holding that higher amount for sure.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: a7mos on March 19, 2016, 05:24:31 PM
It is possible to know how many address has more than 21 btc. but you will not be able to know how many person because one may have his coins spread in more than one address.
I do not own that amount and for me, holding one bitcoin is good amount for my finanical situation now


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: jack1111 on March 19, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: thejaytiesto on March 19, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders

The entry point is already high enough for like 99% of people out there... I mean ask if someone you know would be willing to put near 10k in Bitcoin.
Even if they had a decent amount of money, they would be reticent because they would not know what Bitcoin is, maybe they have heard it a couple of time in some lame headlines. Thats why anyone holding 21 BTC is such a pioneer.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: benmartin613 on March 19, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders

I also think gamblers and traders have this much amount of bitcoin or even more.
Pioneers in bitcoin would also have these kind of amount,chinese miners also have these amount.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: onlinedragon on March 19, 2016, 05:43:04 PM
There are people who own such amount fear earned or scammed from people. Don't think I will ever reach that amount.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: thejaytiesto on March 19, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders

I also think gamblers and traders have this much amount of bitcoin or even more.
Pioneers in bitcoin would also have these kind of amount,chinese miners also have these amount.
But he said "many people"
Like I said before, I don't think many people own 21 BTC... in the grand scheme of things, most people don't own ANY Bitcoin, let alone 1 BTC, let alone 21. I think 21 BTC is already elite status in the long term, as the price raises and the entry point becomes more and more prohibitive.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: calkob on March 19, 2016, 06:12:11 PM
i'm pretty close.....  ;D cant wait till these are a million a piece


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: etparle on March 19, 2016, 06:12:53 PM
If you want to make a list you can add me to it.
I own at least 21 btc.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Amph on March 19, 2016, 06:16:36 PM
users base is 3M if we assume 1% this is still too much, probably 0.1% or less own such amount, the majority have not even one bitcoin let alone 21


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: kyrios_ on March 19, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.

Why the number 21 thought? And 21 BTC is approximately 8000 usd which is not exactly very rare


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: etparle on March 19, 2016, 06:18:58 PM
users base is 3M if we assume 1% this is still too much, probably 0.1% or less own such amount, the majority have not even one bitcoin let alone 21

I think the majority of bitcoin holders do have at least 1 btc. Id like to see some stats on this. Do you know if any have been posted before.



Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: DimensionZ on March 19, 2016, 06:20:59 PM
21 Bitcoins is a desirable amount because of the 21 million Bitcoins that will be issued? To be honest I am seeing people who gamble 20-30 btc a bet on Bitcoin sportsbooks and Dice sites so this elite status is nothing more than people with cash buying Bitcoins to hold or dispose of.

And 21 Bitcoins at current market price is approx. $8505 which in a first world country with a good salary and a normal full-time job can be earned in 1-2 months worth of work. It's another story if you are trying to earn the same amount here with the pittance which the sig campaigns are offering to you.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: magemist on March 19, 2016, 06:21:57 PM
21 BTC at today's price does not seem like alot but com back after June and then see the price then.
You will say who hold's 10btc.  :D


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Amph on March 19, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
users base is 3M if we assume 1% this is still too much, probably 0.1% or less own such amount, the majority have not even one bitcoin let alone 21

I think the majority of bitcoin holders do have at least 1 btc. Id like to see some stats on this. Do you know if any have been posted before.



yes i remember a % in this forum showed long time ago, i cna not find it right now, and the majority were holding less than 1 btc and a very tiny % 21 btc


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: dreamsorcerer on March 19, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.

Why 21 btc and not 10 btc?!?!

I think it's not a large sum (for EU/USA/AUS/JPY) is a normal sum of money...


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: unamis76 on March 19, 2016, 07:02:18 PM
It's pretty hard to measure people, but you can see how many addresses own a given amount of Bitcoin. Currently, less than 0.09% (http://www.bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=400000) of used addresses in the network have 21 BTC


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: DimensionZ on March 19, 2016, 07:04:08 PM
The number 21 is special because only 21 million Bitcoins will be ever issued so most people would like to own at least 0.00001% of the total amount of Bitcoins that will exist in the World. That will happen by 2110 +/1 a decade or 2 so we will be dead already but our kids or grandkids may be multi billionairs  ;D

Or perhaps Bitcoin will be dead till then and replaced by a better currency altogether. Or the World could be invaded and destroyed by aliens. Or a 3rd World war could have destroyed our planet after a  massive nuclear strike. Or we may be living on Mars because our planet is dying.

Or...


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Altynbekova on March 19, 2016, 07:20:14 PM
It's pretty hard to measure people, but you can see how many addresses own a given amount of Bitcoin. Currently, less than 0.09% (http://www.bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=400000) of used addresses in the network have 21 BTC

Yeah and remember many of us have multiple addresses. I for example. got 30 BTC but it is spread around 6 addresses at several palces.
Exchanges, wallets etc. But 21 BTC is around 4500 USD i don't think many hold so much money.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: mikehersh2 on March 19, 2016, 07:56:16 PM
Big traders,gamblers, and miners are the only ones with that amount these days.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Za1n on March 19, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
It's pretty hard to measure people, but you can see how many addresses own a given amount of Bitcoin. Currently, less than 0.09% (http://www.bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=400000) of used addresses in the network have 21 BTC

Yeah and remember many of us have multiple addresses. I for example. got 30 BTC but it is spread around 6 addresses at several palces.
Exchanges, wallets etc. But 21 BTC is around 4500 USD i don't think many hold so much money.

If you have 21 BTC it is actually closer to $8,400 at today's value ($400/btc).

But yeah, I also have BTC spread among several addresses, so I do not think simply counting how many addresses hold => 21 BTC is a reliable measure.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: gentlemand on March 19, 2016, 08:25:30 PM
Probably far fewer than many expect. Not many people have that to throw around on extreme bets. Even fewer would be willing to actually do it.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Dagwanoenyent on March 19, 2016, 08:33:01 PM
People actually realising how bitcoin have very bad distribution and majority of coins
is in hands of whales. This will be resolved only with good old redistribution called DUMP.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: tampazeus on March 19, 2016, 08:38:40 PM
I think very few people would be holding that big amount, as it is not that easy to earn that amount of btc either your gamble or jsut buy it which is not possible for many of us.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Dagwanoenyent on March 19, 2016, 08:45:45 PM
I can assume from readings here that many members who are involved here for years  don't have big wallets,
on contrary many of them are impecunious, and they collecting signatures fragments.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: mkc on March 19, 2016, 08:52:38 PM
In capital market, over time, wealth will tend to flow to whom already have abandom of it, meaning, the rich getting richer, and poor getting more poor.
I think the question is, will Bitcoin accumulate to fewer people over time or spread out to more people? Personally I think the number of people owning more than 21btc will stay the same in the past two years, simply because who didnot have that much will have a hard time over that barrier.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Kprawn on March 19, 2016, 08:52:49 PM
There are too many gamblers and porn addicts around here, to keep 21 bitcoins around.  ::) .... The reality is, most of the bitcoins are immediately converted back to fiat, when

people earn it online to cover daily expenses. I only started using Bitcoin, when I reached my "hoard" goal. The 21 BTC goal will be a pipe dream for many people, because there

are too many other things that can be done with Bitcoin now.  ;D


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Za1n on March 19, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
People actually realising how bitcoin have very bad distribution and majority of coins
is in hands of whales. This will be resolved only with good old redistribution called DUMP.


I think you have that backwards. Most of the time the big whales are accumulating (buying) when the price is down and then they distribute (sell) their cheaply acquired coins for higher amounts as the price rises. This simple concept is why they stay rich and everyone else stays poor.

To expand on this, notice when BTC was down around $200 last year there were plenty of "sell before it goes to 0" type of posts and a lot of people were predicting the end, "get out while you can". There were probably a good many people taking that advice and selling their $400, $600 or higher coins for half, or even less value, thinking it was better to get something than nothing for their coins. Meanwhile, the smart money was buying, and probably many of the same ones buying were also the ones that were talking the FUD up in the first place. This was the accumulation phase.

Now early this year when the price was near $450 all those people who were posting the end is nigh, sell me your coins, are the same ones who now are posting advice such as "buy now while its cheap, moon tomorrow" while they were secretly selling you their $200 coins at over 2x profit. This was the distribution phase.

Granted, with Bitcoin it is more spread out and not as clearly defined as with many of the alts where you can plainly see this pattern much more readily, but the concept is quite the same.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: CryptoBjorn on March 19, 2016, 09:12:47 PM
People actually realising how bitcoin have very bad distribution and majority of coins
is in hands of whales. This will be resolved only with good old redistribution called DUMP.


I think you have that backwards. Most of the time the big whales are accumulating (buying) when the price is down and then they distribute (sell) their cheaply acquired coins for higher amounts as the price rises. This simple concept is why they stay rich and everyone else stays poor.

That is the whole thing of trading. But that being said it would be good to have it more spread across more people. This would benefit us all.
Since the distribution can make or break bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: nanonymousx on March 20, 2016, 06:51:24 AM
Big whale are getting bigger and bigger, and they are not selling. Just make sure we don't have  bitcoin future, which will artificially increase the supply of bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: n0ne on March 20, 2016, 08:12:37 AM
I can assume from readings here that many members who are involved here for years  don't have big wallets,
on contrary many of them are impecunious, and they collecting signatures fragments.

Yeah that's true. Most of the user here won't have large number of bitcoin in their wallet. Only the traders and gamblers looks to be the one with large number of bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: 1Referee on March 20, 2016, 08:21:04 AM
There are plenty of people that don't even have 0.5BTC as it is very hard to collect for them. Especially nowadays where there is a huge influx of noobs joining this forum that are burning through faucets and joining Yobit for a dust payout. These people mostly end up selling their coins for fiat once they reach the amount of 0.02BTC or so.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: krunox123 on March 20, 2016, 08:34:28 AM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
As others said, it's quite hard to measure people that have at least 21 BTC in their wallet. Well, if you own 21 BTC, you currently own 0.000001% out of 21 million coins. Owning a 21 BTC isn't my dream because I want to own at least 1k BTC or so. It isn't a dream as I am trying to achieve it as we speak though it might take months or even years for me to achieve it. Don't let your dreams be dreams.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Divinespark on March 20, 2016, 10:31:55 AM
My guess is no more than 10, maybe 15k folks own as many as 21 btc individually
We are still very, very early in the adoption curve


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 20, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
I can assume from readings here that many members who are involved here for years  don't have big wallets,
on contrary many of them are impecunious, and they collecting signatures fragments.

Yeah that's true. Most of the user here won't have large number of bitcoin in their wallet. Only the traders and gamblers looks to be the one with large number of bitcoin.
Me myself have collected very small part of btc via signature camping and i know how hard is to end one btc, it is almost impossible for lower ranked members. If you want bitcoins you must buy it, if you have money of course.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: maku on March 20, 2016, 11:02:31 AM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders
Do you know any gambler who reach that number and earn that money from gambling alone? Because I don't.
Rich 'gamblers' are usually people who got money from doing things totally different than gambling: trading, having a company, earn it in a different way.
It is popular misconception that by gambling you can get rich fast. It is actually very hard to do - unless you have already accumulated some wealth.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: SanaButt on March 20, 2016, 12:41:14 PM
It's pretty hard to measure people, but you can see how many addresses own a given amount of Bitcoin. Currently, less than 0.09% (http://www.bitcoinrichlist.com/charts/bitcoin-distribution-by-address?atblock=400000) of used addresses in the network have 21 BTC

Yeah and remember many of us have multiple addresses. I for example. got 30 BTC but it is spread around 6 addresses at several palces.
Exchanges, wallets etc. But 21 BTC is around 4500 USD i don't think many hold so much money.


Yes, it is difficult to trace a person with 21 BTC, because people tends to keep their hard earned BTC in different wallets
in order to keep them save.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: SanaButt on March 20, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
I think very few people would be holding that big amount, as it is not that easy to earn that amount of btc either your gamble or jsut buy it which is not possible for many of us.

I totally agree with you. Holding this much big amount of Coins is a difficult thing and the one who has this much amount
should be the lucky person. 21 BTC is a huge amount considering the value of 1 BTC is more than 405 $.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 20, 2016, 01:14:07 PM
why 21BTC i don't get why that exact number. even if you are making a speculation for the future price and getting rich there is a room not an exact number :D

anyways, i think putting aside all the businesses like exchangers, gambling sites, online wallets,... there are a lot of traders who have that amount. you have to put that much in to make a decent profit each day.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: lite on March 20, 2016, 04:43:54 PM
why 21BTC i don't get why that exact number. even if you are making a speculation for the future price and getting rich there is a room not an exact number :D

anyways, i think putting aside all the businesses like exchangers, gambling sites, online wallets,... there are a lot of traders who have that amount. you have to put that much in to make a decent profit each day.
The total number of bitcoins ever will be 21m, so that's why 21 bitcoins.
i think less than 2k people own 21 btc.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: pereira4 on March 20, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
21 Bitcoins is a desirable amount because of the 21 million Bitcoins that will be issued? To be honest I am seeing people who gamble 20-30 btc a bet on Bitcoin sportsbooks and Dice sites so this elite status is nothing more than people with cash buying Bitcoins to hold or dispose of.

And 21 Bitcoins at current market price is approx. $8505 which in a first world country with a good salary and a normal full-time job can be earned in 1-2 months worth of work. It's another story if you are trying to earn the same amount here with the pittance which the sig campaigns are offering to you.
Those people are millionaires, so that's the elite playing around. In the grand scheme of things, most people will never even own 1 BTC...
get some perspective and you will realize 21 BTC will be impossible for most people to ever own, and I agree with everyone saying that 21 BTC is a perfect number to have because of the 21 million BTC total.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on March 20, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
anybody who has a big amount of bitcoin (like 21 btc) is not going to publicly announce having it and there is no way of telling this.

there is anonymity and also people save their coins in multiple addresses sometimes which makes it immpossible to make such statistics.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on March 20, 2016, 05:22:58 PM
why 21BTC i don't get why that exact number. even if you are making a speculation for the future price and getting rich there is a room not an exact number :D

anyways, i think putting aside all the businesses like exchangers, gambling sites, online wallets,... there are a lot of traders who have that amount. you have to put that much in to make a decent profit each day.
The total number of bitcoins ever will be 21m, so that's why 21 bitcoins.
i think less than 2k people own 21 btc.


I think 21BTC is not a difficult target at the moment. How did you derive the number "2k" for 21 BTC owners? I think we should have more. My guess is at least 10k people with 21 BTC or above...


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Zeke2345 on March 20, 2016, 05:30:59 PM
There is actually a thread that I read two days ago that breaks down bitcoin holders on a yearly level and shows how many people hold what on average.
Was pretty interesting as there are only 3 people with massive amounts and 20 bitcoins there was only about a thousand out of a million people.
Wish I could find the thread if I find it I will come back and link it.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: pereira4 on March 20, 2016, 05:33:11 PM
why 21BTC i don't get why that exact number. even if you are making a speculation for the future price and getting rich there is a room not an exact number :D

anyways, i think putting aside all the businesses like exchangers, gambling sites, online wallets,... there are a lot of traders who have that amount. you have to put that much in to make a decent profit each day.
The total number of bitcoins ever will be 21m, so that's why 21 bitcoins.
i think less than 2k people own 21 btc.


I think 21BTC is not a difficult target at the moment. How did you derive the number "2k" for 21 BTC owners? I think we should have more. My guess is at least 10k people with 21 BTC or above...

Dude 21 BTC is a lot of money, you must live in a bubble. Most people all over the world are struggling to pay bills, there's no way anyone but a small minority would be able to drop 10K worth of BTC to have 21BTC... a very small minority not only on a global level, but only on a "first world countries" level.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Lucius on March 20, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
why 21BTC i don't get why that exact number. even if you are making a speculation for the future price and getting rich there is a room not an exact number :D

anyways, i think putting aside all the businesses like exchangers, gambling sites, online wallets,... there are a lot of traders who have that amount. you have to put that much in to make a decent profit each day.
The total number of bitcoins ever will be 21m, so that's why 21 bitcoins.
i think less than 2k people own 21 btc.


I think 21BTC is not a difficult target at the moment. How did you derive the number "2k" for 21 BTC owners? I think we should have more. My guess is at least 10k people with 21 BTC or above...

I agree, 21 BTC may today have a large number of people,especially those living in developed countries and have solid earnings.
To buy 21 BTC you need today 8600 $,but people accumulate BTC for years so number of people with 21 BTC is for sure greater than several thousand.Let say it is 10k,so that people have in total 210 000 BTC which is due to the total amount of 15+ million BTC small percentage.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: knowhow on March 20, 2016, 11:02:58 PM
Well the most people has less then 1 btc ,at this forum in a year with signature paying you can collect atleast those ammount.I believe the huge part of us has something around 2-10btc from signature work,made till now.As last year people were earning around 0,40btc montly.To have such ammount ,the 21 btc at earning from signatures well maybe one or other has such,but buying all those coins is something some people cant afford ,not because they cant buy it ,but because they have others issues above bitcoin ,as pay house,car.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ranlo on March 20, 2016, 11:06:08 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders

The entry point is already high enough for like 99% of people out there... I mean ask if someone you know would be willing to put near 10k in Bitcoin.
Even if they had a decent amount of money, they would be reticent because they would not know what Bitcoin is, maybe they have heard it a couple of time in some lame headlines. Thats why anyone holding 21 BTC is such a pioneer.

And the smart thing is to have no more than 5% in risky investments. So if you have 10k invested in BTC, you should have 190k elsewhere.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: fuathan on March 21, 2016, 01:34:13 AM
The number 21 is special because only 21 million Bitcoins will be ever issued so most people would like to own at least 0.00001% of the total amount of Bitcoins that will exist in the World. That will happen by 2110 +/1 a decade or 2 so we will be dead already but our kids or grandkids may be multi billionairs  ;D

Or perhaps Bitcoin will be dead till then and replaced by a better currency altogether. Or the World could be invaded and destroyed by aliens. Or a 3rd World war could have destroyed our planet after a  massive nuclear strike. Or we may be living on Mars because our planet is dying.

Or...

You got the point... In my opinion BTC will survive for at least 10 years. 10 years later I think a BTC equals to 5 digit number if economical situation goes like today's.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Hirose UK on March 21, 2016, 05:51:56 AM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
I think there aren't many people out there who own that amount, even gamblers because not all of gamblers have that amount because if there's a winner, of course there's a loser.

I also want to own that amount, but I even don't have 20% of it. you know, I need some stuff yo buy every month, daily necessities, kind of thing. so even in 10 years probably I won't get that amount unless I'm lucky


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: electronicash on March 21, 2016, 06:17:00 AM
whats so special about 21 bitcoins,  if you can earn more than 21 btc that would be better don't you think?
I certainly don't want just 21 btc in my wallet, i just don't have them right now but won't limit myself to own just 21. if i have more than 50btc i'd feel much better.



Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: qiwoman2 on March 21, 2016, 07:20:53 AM
I had at one time 30 bitcoins and 12 bitcoin of those I made through just one crypto currency ICO. Those were the days for me but now I am struggling to get my first new bitcoin together to start all over again to save. I do have though around 5 bitcoins worth of digital currencies that I could convert to bitcoin but I did once at least own more than 21.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: the_poet on March 21, 2016, 08:33:25 AM
It's full of people that started several years ago and used to own hundreds of Btc, but because of an adverse fate (hard drive failures, gambling, need to convert btc to fiat for personal reasons, etc) have now a tiny fraction of that.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ranlo on March 21, 2016, 08:43:27 AM
whats so special about 21 bitcoins,  if you can earn more than 21 btc that would be better don't you think?
I certainly don't want just 21 btc in my wallet, i just don't have them right now but won't limit myself to own just 21. if i have more than 50btc i'd feel much better.



21 means you own 1/1,000,000 so you're one in a million, :p.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Genius Einstein on March 21, 2016, 08:45:05 AM
It is possible to know the exact amount of adresses but i don't know that number and there will be quite a number of people out there with 21 bitcoin. If you strive really hard and if you have a good rank it can't be that hard


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ranlo on March 21, 2016, 08:49:21 AM
It is possible to know the exact amount of adresses but i don't know that number and there will be quite a number of people out there with 21 bitcoin. If you strive really hard and if you have a good rank it can't be that hard

What does your rank have to do with how much money you have? There are legendaries with no money and newbies with millions. There's no correlation.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: SquallLeonhart on March 21, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
I think big investors would be having that amount of bitcoins, but the normal users working on signature campaign would not holding that huge amount.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: tampazeus on March 21, 2016, 11:39:52 AM
I think big investors would be having that amount of bitcoins, but the normal users working on signature campaign would not holding that huge amount.

That's true people who are working hard to earn from campaigns would be earning a descent amount of bitcoins but 21 btc is too high to hold.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on March 21, 2016, 04:13:25 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
yes its hard to guesstimate the owner of bitcoin,its why bitcoin called as anonymous,we can't know how many people have 21BTC,and how many people have more than that amount.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ebookscreator on March 21, 2016, 05:40:53 PM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: BitMaxz on March 21, 2016, 05:53:23 PM
Its very hard to know who has 21 btc unless they are giving their address you can see their outstanding balance just go in block explorer and put his wallet address you can see now the total out standing balance.. if the balance is below 21 btc or more..


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: jak1 on March 21, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.

Yes the onwers of big sites related to bitcoins, must have 21 or above BTC. But they are only people few in numbers.
Most of the people using bitcoins may not have even 1 BTC with them.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: knowhow on March 21, 2016, 09:39:40 PM
Knowing that bitcoin can be earned for free ,being at faucets,captchas ptc,and signatures i believe there is a group here with less then 1btc,as some earn and invest or spend it ,the thing is that is a low number of people able to invest at bitcoin such ammount as their salary they are able to pay bills and nothing else.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Dagwanoenyent on March 25, 2016, 10:06:20 PM
Few years before i had a feeling there is many chances for earning on internet but i did not recognize
bitcoin as one of those opportunities. So today i don't have 21 btc not even close.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: DeathAngel on March 25, 2016, 10:39:20 PM
I'd love to own 21 bitcoin's, I don't think I'll ever be in possession of such a high number though. Must be cool for early adopters to have even way more in excess of 21.

As for the number of people with 21 or more I'd guess a lot due to how low the price was. Not any more though sadly.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: BR01 on March 25, 2016, 11:23:08 PM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.

Yes the onwers of big sites related to bitcoins, must have 21 or above BTC. But they are only people few in numbers.
Most of the people using bitcoins may not have even 1 BTC with them.
yeah i fon't think that even more half of bitcoin users don't have a hole bitcoin right now maybe some high rollers and  BTC traders or hackes have over 21BTC


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: LoyceV on March 25, 2016, 11:30:17 PM
Like "normal" money, a very tiny fraction of the population owns the majority. I read an article recently on the MtGox distribution of money: most people had a few mBTC, and a few thousand people own almost everything. That is true in dollars, and it will be true in bitcoins.
I would estimate there are at least 1000 bitcoin-users with less than 21 BTC for every person with more than 21 BTC.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: MTBTT on March 26, 2016, 12:56:36 AM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.
of course owner has many bitcoin gambling site. probably more than 100 BTC. certainly
they are very large capital to make gambling sites. big gamblers also usually have a large bankroll


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: rio3233 on March 26, 2016, 01:21:11 AM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.
of course owner has many bitcoin gambling site. probably more than 100 BTC. certainly
they are very large capital to make gambling sites. big gamblers also usually have a large bankroll

Of course gambling sites have many bitcoins. For their hot wallet and when people win big on that gambling sites. Trader and cryptocoin exchanger also have many bitcoins.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: cryptohunter on March 26, 2016, 03:59:35 AM
my guess

less than 15% of the board I would think (talking snr members and above )

100btc would  be perhaps 4%

200btc  maybe 1%

1000btc - a few here have that


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: floxa on March 26, 2016, 04:13:30 AM
I think that not so many people even know about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: uname on March 26, 2016, 06:39:47 AM
Few years before i had a feeling there is many chances for earning on internet but i did not recognize
bitcoin as one of those opportunities. So today i don't have 21 btc not even close.
to get 21 BTC is a difficult thing. I'm not sure there are many users on this forum that has 21 BTC in their wallets. most people do not hold too much of their bitcoin


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: 1Referee on March 26, 2016, 06:47:26 AM
I think that not so many people even know about Bitcoin.

I think there are quite a few people that have heard about it in the media, but simply don't know what it really is.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ajun96 on March 26, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Mostly owner of gambling site and other like bitcoin mixer and other exchange site they have 21 btc or more and also i think rich gamblers and trader has 21 btc or more.. if i had 21 btc i can start my own business here in online.
I think people who have 21 BTC there are a lot of people because  21 BTC has not been classified you have a lot of money.
certainly bankroll gambling sites more than 21 BTC even profit gambling site can get 21 BTC per day
bankroll gambling sites more than 500 BTC. I think
to make business. I think 21 BTC enough


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: romero121 on March 26, 2016, 02:41:08 PM
Only people who consider bitcoin as a saving for the future holds 21bitcoin. Others who hold 21bitcoins and more are the large scale traders.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 05:46:42 PM
I donot know. The only thing I know is I do not own 21 BTC. It is huge amount. It will take too long to earn that much in a legit manner.I will try to do mining or trading for that much.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: g4vinshreds on March 31, 2016, 11:13:19 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
Probably only gamblers and investors.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: BitcoinPaw on April 01, 2016, 05:20:17 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
Probably only gamblers and investors.

Miners and Exchange companies also low percent of people have 21btc. I think gamblers don't have a lot of money if they are not luckers.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Wendigo on April 01, 2016, 05:40:49 PM
21 moondollars at current price is around $8800. I am from Europe and you can achieve this mark in 1 year or half a year if you allocate like 10% of your salary into a uᴉoɔʇᴉq fund. $5000 a month is an average salary here. By the way there are high-paying jobs like medical specialists lawyers engineers etc. that can make $10 000 in a month easily People with good education have the means to buy more than 21 moondollars at any given moment there is no doubt about that. The only question is if they believe in uᴉoɔʇᴉq to make the purchase.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: lolgato1 on April 01, 2016, 05:44:29 PM
If I wanted to I could buy that amount of btc but I'm not as I don't intend on buying a lot of btc rather by acquiring them. It is possible to buy that amount in my country in just 4 months you just have to use your entire salary I usually just buy 1 btc when the price is approximatly low I will probably make it to 21 btc sooner or later.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Denker on April 01, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
21 moondollars at current price is around $8800. I am from Europe and you can achieve this mark in 1 year or half a year if you allocate like 10% of your salary into a uᴉoɔʇᴉq fund. $5000 a month is an average salary here. By the way there are high-paying jobs like medical specialists lawyers engineers etc. that can make $10 000 in a month easily People with good education have the means to buy more than 21 moondollars at any given moment there is no doubt about that. The only question is if they believe in uᴉoɔʇᴉq to make the purchase.

$5000 an average salary in Europe?!
Even in my country (Germany) this is not the average!!
So I hardly believe in countries like France, Spain, Italy, Netherlands, all the eastern european countries it looks better.
Especially if you keep in mind the living costs, food, crazy taxes etc.
Most of the people have nothing left at the end of the month.
Many have a second job to be able to afford something additional.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 aproximatelyBTC ?
Post by: Nahl on April 01, 2016, 06:20:43 PM
i don't have valid data to prove it that how many people own 21 BTC currently but if may i to guess i think approximately 500 people or could be more but could be i'm one of them if someone send to me 21 BTC for free ;D ;D ;D ;D but i guess that's only happen on my dreams


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: the_poet on April 01, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
It's not that most people don't have $8,000, the problem is that $8,000 is a considerable amount of money to spend on something that is still perceived by most people as unstable and with an uncertain future.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Boosterious on April 01, 2016, 06:49:50 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
Almost impossible to trace people who have 21BTC now,we just can find some address with that amount,and tracing name form bitcoin address is not easy,i'm stuck to try find people who have sent me bitcoin with anonymous identity.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: EssentialCoin on April 01, 2016, 08:05:11 PM
It's not that most people don't have $8,000, the problem is that $8,000 is a considerable amount of money to spend on something that is still perceived by most people as unstable and with an uncertain future.

If the volatility of the bitcoin is less than present or the past, the bitcoin will b adopted widely, the price will be much higher.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 aproximatelyBTC ?
Post by: pogress on April 01, 2016, 08:15:49 PM
i don't have valid data to prove it that how many people own 21 BTC currently but if may i to guess i think approximately 500 people or could be more but could be i'm one of them if someone send to me 21 BTC for free ;D ;D ;D ;D but i guess that's only happen on my dreams

500 people is too little. There are over 10.000 unique addresses with 100 BTC or more alone. More likely up to 100.000 people have 21 BTC or more, but definitively over 10.000 people.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 aproximatelyBTC ?
Post by: umaOuma on April 01, 2016, 08:25:49 PM
i don't have valid data to prove it that how many people own 21 BTC currently but if may i to guess i think approximately 500 people or could be more but could be i'm one of them if someone send to me 21 BTC for free ;D ;D ;D ;D but i guess that's only happen on my dreams

500 people is too little. There are over 10.000 unique addresses with 100 BTC or more alone. More likely up to 100.000 people have 21 BTC or more, but definitively over 10.000 people.

May be those are the big whales who must be holding that high amount, normal users won't be holding that high amount as it needs huge captial to hold that big amount.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: justspare on April 01, 2016, 08:31:22 PM
I only own about 10 Bitcoin. But that is still a good amount for investment, especially with halving coming up soon.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: torrentheaven on April 01, 2016, 09:21:46 PM
I only own about 10 uᴉoɔʇᴉq. But that is still a good amount for investment, especially with halving coming up soon.

Yeah bro 10 btc is really good amount to hold, honestly speaking I haven't reached yet 1 btc yet, so if I will be holding 1 btc in my wallet then I would really go crazy.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: 18xk5oT2rLrAc24SL96XT14BX on May 06, 2016, 06:21:47 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
I do not own that amount and for me, holding one bitcoin is good amount for my finanical situation now.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Bought on May 06, 2016, 06:29:47 PM
For all it costs for 1 bitcoin today its worth the risk of losing it to have that small chance that bitcoin hits the big time.  I know depending on country and work status it can seem alot but the potebtial for growth is huge. Id hate to have bitcoin hit stupid amounts and not gain any because i was too scared about losing a few dollars.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: interbtc on May 06, 2016, 06:32:26 PM
I remember stumbling upon a site that had information on the percentage of wallets in respect to amount of bitcoins they have on them, but even with
it updated in real time, it still wouldnt represent real numbers because you cant know how many different addresses people own.

By some rough blind estimate, i would say 0.5-1% of bitcoin users have that much of them since its a lot of money for most people to invest.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: fenican on May 06, 2016, 06:34:59 PM
A challenge is many people have their savings in IRA's and 401k's which are not exactly easy to invest into BTC. I suppose that could be done with a self directed (solo) 401k but may run astray of IRS rules.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: dearbesz on June 19, 2016, 05:21:07 PM
 How many people own 21 BTC approximately?

majority of the altcoins in cryptocurrency owning a 21bitcoins or more i think.
and for a individual miners it can be a few only. :)


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: stromma44 on June 19, 2016, 05:32:19 PM
I think majority of big whales would be holding more than that amount, but if we talk about the normal users who are working part time to earn bitcoin, very few people would be holding as its too high.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: thejaytiesto on June 19, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
21 moondollars at current price is around $8800. I am from Europe and you can achieve this mark in 1 year or half a year if you allocate like 10% of your salary into a uᴉoɔʇᴉq fund. $5000 a month is an average salary here. By the way there are high-paying jobs like medical specialists lawyers engineers etc. that can make $10 000 in a month easily People with good education have the means to buy more than 21 moondollars at any given moment there is no doubt about that. The only question is if they believe in uᴉoɔʇᴉq to make the purchase.

Things are changing fast. Now at current price, 21 BTC entry point has been raised to: $16.060! Amazing, it's now two times harder to enter with that position than it was 2 months ago.

This is why people owning 21 BTC already are part of elite, because it will get harder fast, really fast to own 21.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: peta4e on June 19, 2016, 06:03:43 PM
21 moondollars at current price is around $8800. I am from Europe and you can achieve this mark in 1 year or half a year if you allocate like 10% of your salary into a uᴉoɔʇᴉq fund. $5000 a month is an average salary here. By the way there are high-paying jobs like medical specialists lawyers engineers etc. that can make $10 000 in a month easily People with good education have the means to buy more than 21 moondollars at any given moment there is no doubt about that. The only question is if they believe in uᴉoɔʇᴉq to make the purchase.

Things are changing fast. Now at current price, 21 BTC entry point has been raised to: $16.060! Amazing, it's now two times harder to enter with that position than it was 2 months ago.

This is why people owning 21 BTC already are part of elite, because it will get harder fast, really fast to own 21.

Yeah price is moving up fast now, so its not easy even to buy those huge amount, and earning 21 btc will really take time, that is the reason early adoptors are pioneers of bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: SilverPunk on June 19, 2016, 06:32:47 PM
Well i think not all early to know bitcoins are pioneer because not all people specially on my country can buy as much as 2btc in one cash in as the previous quote.
21BTC i think its about 10-15% of people own ,only higher than that maybe but the average as i observe is about 1-10BTC only 10is the highest .


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: torrentheaven on June 19, 2016, 06:42:24 PM
Well i think not all early to know bitcoins are pioneer because not all people specially on my country can buy as much as 2btc in one cash in as the previous quote.
21BTC i think its about 10-15% of people own ,only higher than that maybe but the average as i observe is about 1-10BTC only 10is the highest .

21 btc is really a very high amount and not possible for everyone to hold it, if I will have 5 btc then I would be much satisfied as its worth would be really more in future.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: romero121 on June 19, 2016, 06:47:01 PM
Well i think not all early to know bitcoins are pioneer because not all people specially on my country can buy as much as 2btc in one cash in as the previous quote.
21BTC i think its about 10-15% of people own ,only higher than that maybe but the average as i observe is about 1-10BTC only 10is the highest .

21 btc is really a very high amount and not possible for everyone to hold it, if I will have 5 btc then I would be much satisfied as its worth would be really more in future.

Exactly said, even a single bitcoin is much worthy and in my opinion possibly around 20% of users will be holding 21 btc.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: mkc on June 19, 2016, 08:21:46 PM
When each coin fetches around 750. 21 coins will be $15,000. This is big amount, very few people have that much money to spend on something like Bitcoin.
Signature campaign will fetch .01 a week if you work hard. Then half coin per year. We are talking about 40 years if price stay here. If price doubles,then pay out will be less.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: blood moon on June 19, 2016, 08:26:55 PM
it is not possible to know about them.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Alty on June 19, 2016, 08:29:41 PM
21 BTC is the amount of BTC I set out to hold back in 2013.

It's a symbolic amount and anyone with that much should keep them locked up and safe for many years to come imo.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: helloeverybody on June 19, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
Does anyone actually know what kind of user base bitcoin has at the moment?  Obviously the more people that use bitcoin the more valuable it becomes,  but to be one of 1  million holders we would probably have to have 100 million users or more before 21 bitcoins is relevant.

Are we even past 1 million users yet?


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Paashaas on June 20, 2016, 12:49:32 PM
I dont know exact how many people own 21 coins but that number shoud be really low and will decrease even further over time.

I feel privileged to be part of the 1m club 8)


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: anzel2002 on June 20, 2016, 01:07:55 PM
21 moondollars at current price is around $8800. I am from Europe and you can achieve this mark in 1 year or half a year if you allocate like 10% of your salary into a uᴉoɔʇᴉq fund. $5000 a month is an average salary here. By the way there are high-paying jobs like medical specialists lawyers engineers etc. that can make $10 000 in a month easily People with good education have the means to buy more than 21 moondollars at any given moment there is no doubt about that. The only question is if they believe in uᴉoɔʇᴉq to make the purchase.

Things are changing fast. Now at current price, 21 BTC entry point has been raised to: $16.060! Amazing, it's now two times harder to enter with that position than it was 2 months ago.

This is why people owning 21 BTC already are part of elite, because it will get harder fast, really fast to own 21.

Yeah price is moving up fast now, so its not easy even to buy those huge amount, and earning 21 btc will really take time, that is the reason early adoptors are pioneers of bitcoin.

yeah price will move even faster this month probably when the reward halves


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ElpadroBitcoin on June 20, 2016, 01:42:19 PM
I dont think there are allot of people that own 21 because when ytou have 21 of them ten you are rich as hell. And you can buy anything what you want.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: diodio5 on June 20, 2016, 02:47:59 PM
I dont think there are allot of people that own 21 because when ytou have 21 of them ten you are rich as hell. And you can buy anything what you want.
I think there are many people who have 21 bitcoin. I do not think that the 21 bitcoin is a very large amount. even if I do not sell all of my bitcoin perhaps early 2013. I've gathered that much. there are many people who have that much bitcoin dude


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: SilverPunk on June 20, 2016, 04:04:39 PM
I dont think there are allot of people that own 21 because when ytou have 21 of them ten you are rich as hell. And you can buy anything what you want.
I think there are many people who have 21 bitcoin. I do not think that the 21 bitcoin is a very large amount. even if I do not sell all of my bitcoin perhaps early 2013. I've gathered that much. there are many people who have that much bitcoin dude

You have a point there chief so my vision now is more people have own 21btc in case of these past years who buys and hold it .i heard about when it starts the faucet gives 1btc .thats too big now .so the pioneers who knows first the bitcoins owns more btc than we think.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: thejaytiesto on June 20, 2016, 04:07:08 PM
Well i think not all early to know bitcoins are pioneer because not all people specially on my country can buy as much as 2btc in one cash in as the previous quote.
21BTC i think its about 10-15% of people own ,only higher than that maybe but the average as i observe is about 1-10BTC only 10is the highest .

21 btc is really a very high amount and not possible for everyone to hold it, if I will have 5 btc then I would be much satisfied as its worth would be really more in future.

Exactly said, even a single bitcoin is much worthy and in my opinion possibly around 20% of users will be holding 21 btc.

Increasingly less and less people will own 21 BTC+ or more, since more and more whales will keep slowly selling making the distribution more even, but new actors in the Bitcoin economy will have it increasingly harder to own this amount of BTC, which means only those who already own 21 BTC or more and hold very long term will become really rich.

It's still possible to own 21 BTC as a normal person but it would require some risks that most are not willing to take.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: coinzat on June 20, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
there is no way to get an accurate answer for your question. someone maybe hold 21 btc in one address and other may hold them in 100 address. not all bitcoin users are in this forum also so you won't know from the comments here


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: serjent05 on June 20, 2016, 07:13:53 PM
Almost me, just short of 20.99  BTC :D  Yes it is hard to tell how many have exactly 21 BTC.  well i think you can find it by looking at every address with 21 BTC at the explorer.  :D  That makes me think, why ask here when you can seek it yourself at the blockexplorer.  If you want other  to do that tedius task, I'll pass.  ;D


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: mark coins on June 20, 2016, 07:16:36 PM
there is no way to get an accurate answer for your question. someone maybe hold 21 btc in one address and other may hold them in 100 address. not all bitcoin users are in this forum also so you won't know from the comments here

If we talk about the normal users then I think very few of them hold that higher amount as its not easy to earn or buy that huge amount, and if you have it then you are really lucky.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Neptunium on June 20, 2016, 07:18:12 PM
users base is 3M if we assume 1% this is still too much, probably 0.1% or less own such amount, the majority have not even one bitcoin let alone 21

Even less, but still a significant amount. A lot of people use/have used Bitcoin.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: prtty2gal2 on June 20, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
Well, apparently, there's no real answer here because it can be one person, two, three, or a large number of people combined together to form that 21 BTC count.
I don't necessarily dream of owning 21 btc because it'll probably take me so damn long of a time to get that much but I'd love to own that much someday.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: fllipperr on June 20, 2016, 10:28:10 PM
I think just a small percentage of bitcoin community have that  because most of the people that I know they only have around 1btc  and that is their peak.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: the_poet on June 24, 2016, 06:56:41 PM
Mathematically speaking, less than a million for sure  ;D


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: takingthis4 on June 24, 2016, 07:51:26 PM
Mathematically speaking, less than a million for sure  ;D
thats true, it is crazy that so small amount of people only can have that much bitcoins because that means that pretty soon the price of the bitcoin is going to increase significantly

i dont have that much bitcoins at the moment and i think that it will take a lot of time until i will be able to make that much bitcoins because i dont work for it at the moment unfortunately


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: cambda on June 24, 2016, 11:28:23 PM
I think just a small percentage of bitcoin community have that  because most of the people that I know they only have around 1btc  and that is their peak.

Yeah very few normal users would be holding that high amount but if we talk about big whales and big traders then many people are holding more than that amount as 21 btc is just a peanut for them.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Soros Shorts on June 25, 2016, 02:08:53 AM
21 BTC is about the price of a 3 year old used Toyota Corolla in the US. Unless you are still a student or you come from a third world country, it is still not too hard to buy 21 BTC using fiat.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: groll on June 25, 2016, 02:16:28 AM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.

We dont have that kind of technology or statistics to tell how many have 21 btc on their wallet. Even if they have they would not advertise as to not attract hackers. But out of my 200 friends who are bitcoin users there are only two who have that kind of amount or more in their wallet. One is my crowndfunding expert friend and the other is the owner of a dice game site.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: DOGE12321 on June 25, 2016, 05:36:03 AM
I think only big traders, rich people and gamblers can hold that much. Unless the person is an absolute fanatic about BTC he may also hold that amount. However, everyday people who just do signature campaigns; I doubt such an amount is imaginable to them. :)


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Nowl1935 on June 25, 2016, 08:34:07 AM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.

I think there are few people who own 21 btc, maybe he/she is a mining owner, or maybe a gambling site owner, or a gambler. I mean, that's only a dream, because everyone of us wants to have that big amount even if it's almost impossible to have that. Keep faith only haha.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: EssentialCoin on July 04, 2016, 10:27:12 AM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.

I think there are few people who own 21 btc, maybe he/she is a mining owner, or maybe a gambling site owner, or a gambler. I mean, that's only a dream, because everyone of us wants to have that big amount even if it's almost impossible to have that. Keep faith only haha.

There are fewer than 1 million people in the world owing more than 21 bitcoins. But it is still not expensive.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: davegee on June 13, 2017, 03:18:09 PM
I know this is an old thread. Thought I'd re-visit. I wonder if many still possess 21 BTC or over?


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: tristan1960 on June 13, 2017, 04:04:02 PM
It almost been 13 months since you created the topic. 21 bitcoins is like 50-60k dollars. This is just crazy.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Ashtville on June 13, 2017, 04:08:35 PM
Overall I don't think there would be more than few tens of thousands overall max, I mean active users not people having lost wallets or the like, These numbers are just estimated though since there are no efficient surveys regarding this.
These people are generally the new wealthy elites considering the expected growth value of BTC.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Bunsomjelican on June 13, 2017, 10:09:45 PM
How many people would you say that own 21 BTC approximately nowadays? What % you are at if you own 21 BTC?

I know it's hard to guesstimate since we can't know how many people how X addresses, but maybe there is some way to make a reasonable stimulation.

I ask this because a lot of people have this dream of owning 21 BTC as a storage of value for the very long term (10+ years). I think it's excellent advice, to own this amount on the most important network ever. I also dream to reach that amount before it's too late, so im hoping the price stays where it's at before we break ATH again.
Every community in this industry are dreaming to have that amount. But tracing them the total of the member of bitcoin enthusiast
Wo have that amount I think no one knows about it.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ppaul15 on June 13, 2017, 10:41:50 PM
21 bitcoin is not just a small number, theres no way to know if how many people are holding those  amount but mostly they are traders or gamblers . s
Some old btc holder and to people like  chinese people who have monster rig to use in mining btc.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: gentlemand on June 13, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
It almost been 13 months since you created the topic. 21 bitcoins is like 50-60k dollars. This is just crazy.

Fun to revisit it. And 21 BTC is verging on a pipe dream for many people now, if everything goes well it really will seem like an insane amount one day.

Here's the 2100 BTC club https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98239.0  it just keeps on gearing down a notch but feels just as unattainable.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Lancusters on June 13, 2017, 10:52:18 PM
I know a man who has 400 bitcoins. Gave it to him, but he treats them as a toy. He has a lot of money and therefore they are not really needed. It just shows them to friends as a curiosity. The rich have their quirks.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Tyrantt on June 14, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
It almost been 13 months since you created the topic. 21 bitcoins is like 50-60k dollars. This is just crazy.

Fun to revisit it. And 21 BTC is verging on a pipe dream for many people now, if everything goes well it really will seem like an insane amount one day.

Here's the 2100 BTC club https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98239.0  it just keeps on gearing down a notch but feels just as unattainable.

so basically those few guys have around $5mil at this time... wow... I'm still crying over here for spending my bitcoin when it was around 300$.

This one's interesting too: 1J18yk7D353z3gRVcdbS7PV5Q8h5w6oWWG


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Cruxer on June 14, 2017, 01:20:42 AM
21 BTC is about the price of a 3 year old used Toyota Corolla in the US. Unless you are still a student or you come from a third world country, it is still not too hard to buy 21 BTC using fiat.
this will change very soon, i mean price getting higher and higher each year. Im buying and HODLING how much i can afford


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: czvezda on June 14, 2017, 01:22:54 AM
In capital market, over time, wealth will tend to flow to whom already have abandom of it, meaning, the rich getting richer, and poor getting more poor.
I think the question is, will Bitcoin accumulate to fewer people over time or spread out to more people? Personally I think the number of people owning more than 21btc will stay the same in the past two years, simply because who didnot have that much will have a hard time over that barrier


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on June 14, 2017, 01:38:26 AM
On the universe the number of users who has got 21 btc in the wallet is countable. I too have been working hard to make 21 bitcoin in the future as I too wish to be the one in a million to hold 21 btc as the number of bitcoin to be generated is already a calculated one.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: yoyoamigo on June 17, 2017, 11:44:30 AM
i would be interested to know how many BTC are lost right now. we need some kind of visual map blockchain explorer for that.
then we can re ask the question: how many people own ? BTC again.  :D


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: KennyR on June 17, 2017, 11:56:35 AM
I think around 10% of the bitcoin holders own 21 btc. This in the upcoming year will surely increase as more and more users are coming into the digital currency network. Also people have started to know much about the potential and started saving more for the future.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Denker on June 17, 2017, 12:05:07 PM
I think around 10% of the bitcoin holders own 21 btc. This in the upcoming year will surely increase as more and more users are coming into the digital currency network. Also people have started to know much about the potential and started saving more for the future.

But the more people join in the higher the price will climb and therefore the harder it will get to accumulate that amount of coins.
Especially when the real big money, like fonds and big financial investors are becoming serious with Bitcoin as an investment.
To own 1 millionth of all coins ever being created is a goal I think many guys here have. But in th future it will get harder and harder to reach it.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on June 17, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
I think only big traders, rich people and gamblers can hold that much. Unless the person is an absolute fanatic about BTC he may also hold that amount. However, everyday people who just do signature campaigns; I doubt such an amount is imaginable to them. :)

Yes it is. I think those people who are into bitcoin since the very start has that kind of value . And even those traders now, i think they have it. I think it saved them for their investment. And their bitcoin grows and now its getting huge.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: evilgrin on June 17, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
I think around 10% of the bitcoin holders own 21 btc. This in the upcoming year will surely increase as more and more users are coming into the digital currency network. Also people have started to know much about the potential and started saving more for the future.

I saw some statistics off reddit showing this number to be lower(5 or 6%), I can't remember where the chart was though. It really depends on when you look at the figure, because each day that % of 21 btc holders probably goes down a little. I don't own 21, wish I did:(


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: AicecreaME on June 17, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
We can't really know if how many people own 21 bitcoins because there is a lot of user of bitcoin in the world and most of the times there are lucky people who can really make bitcoins fast and also in the other side the opposite person who is slow in making money but for me, the really important thing here is how we are determined in accumulating and also growing our bitcoins to reach a certain goal.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: xvids on June 17, 2017, 02:40:42 PM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders
Wow the price of the bitcoin last year was only $410 per coin and now the price is $2544 I hope to see this thread next year and see how much the price have changed,
21 BITCOIN =21x$2,544 = $53,424 wow that is a huge amount of increase,
But my answer to the topic is I think the ones who owns 21 BTC are the ones who are high roller in the gambling sites and some good trader cause they made some good profit,
And I think  that there are other traders who earned a lot of BTC by holding some coin that they bought in a low price and just pump up,
I heard from one of my friends that there was one coin that was only about 9k-10k sats and it pump up into 100+k sats I just don't know if the price is right but the pump that he told me was pretty high.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Viakaia on June 17, 2017, 02:44:09 PM
I guess the number won't be allot and not exceed few thousands (which isn't few, but compared to the whole bitcoin community, it is small), some of them are the older holder keeping bitcoins from a long while, others are newer investors ready to go into a high risk investment with $60,000 value investment right now.
Currently investing in BTC can yield unbelievable profit if another climb happen soon, but a crash in price is also possible.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: bongiu on June 17, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
given that the price of BTC nowadays it's quite high, the percentage of people who have that amount of BTC it's quite low compared to the people who had that amount the last year (some of them are rich now haha  ;D)


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Adelajda on June 17, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
But my answer to the topic is I think the ones who owns 21 BTC are the ones who are high roller in the gambling sites and some good trader cause they made some good profit,
And I think  that there are other traders who earned a lot of BTC by holding some coin that they bought in a low price and just pump up,
It is possible to make huge amount of money gambling,if the problem with these big gamblers is that they keep on rolling and end up loosing everything and there are smart people who has profited but the numbers are a few,but the real money is if you invested in some coin for the long term,then you are able to make good money.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: moooonu on June 17, 2017, 05:12:07 PM
given that the price of BTC nowadays it's quite high, the percentage of people who have that amount of BTC it's quite low compared to the people who had that amount the last year (some of them are rich now haha  ;D)

Not true at all. Bitcoin price don't matter much when it comes bitcoin holders. They are prime supporters of bitcoin community who are holding a very large fund of BTC. Those who sold their bitcoins are just opportunitists who took advantage of situations.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: michietn94 on June 17, 2017, 05:14:22 PM
I'm think if some people or company able to own most of bitcoin ...
And what I'm fear is they can control bitcoin value in order to pump or dump everytime they want to


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
I think around 10% of the bitcoin holders own 21 btc. This in the upcoming year will surely increase as more and more users are coming into the digital currency network. Also people have started to know much about the potential and started saving more for the future.

That is ridiculous. 10% out of 10 million means 1 million. And if we take BTC100 as the average holding, then the total number of coins in this group's possession comes to BTC100 million, which is many times more than the total number of coins in circulation right now (16,396,325 according to coinmarketcap). I would rather go by the calculations made by rpietila. According to him, a total of 99,000 holders have more than BTC10 in their possession.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Pettuh4 on June 19, 2017, 08:19:48 PM
Well all I can say is that in doing pretty well at the moment but I won't tell how much I'm currently holding. It's every ones dream to be one in a million but its Herculean and if I do get there I'll be excited but I'm not there yet and I can't state where I am currently.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: Restmand on June 19, 2017, 10:15:10 PM
We can't really know if how many people own 21 bitcoins because there is a lot of user of bitcoin in the world and most of the times there are lucky people who can really make bitcoins fast and also in the other side the opposite person who is slow in making money but for me, the really important thing here is how we are determined in accumulating and also growing our bitcoins to reach a certain goal.
I think those who buy bitcoin a few years ago has that amount of bitcoin too, those people who are believes in bitcoin in that year has been millionaires now. And i think the bussiness man has their bitcoins too, because many of them are still believes and they think that bitcoin is a good investment.


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: KirillManhattan on June 19, 2017, 10:18:16 PM
In our world a bunch of billionaires and analysts in the given sphere who certainly have more


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: masterbt on November 13, 2017, 11:58:33 AM
21 BTC = 21x410 $ = 8610 $ , it is not small number but I think there are many people have this number . almost gamblers or traders
Wow the price of the bitcoin last year was only $410 per coin and now the price is $2544 I hope to see this thread next year and see how much the price have changed,
21 BITCOIN =21x$2,544 = $53,424 wow that is a huge amount of increase,
But my answer to the topic is I think the ones who owns 21 BTC are the ones who are high roller in the gambling sites and some good trader cause they made some good profit,
And I think  that there are other traders who earned a lot of BTC by holding some coin that they bought in a low price and just pump up,
I heard from one of my friends that there was one coin that was only about 9k-10k sats and it pump up into 100+k sats I just don't know if the price is right but the pump that he told me was pretty high.

Now, 21 BITCOIN =21x$6500 = $1,36,500  This is awesome for people hold it and sadness for those sold it.



Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: bityinvestor on November 13, 2017, 11:59:32 AM
Why you ask exactly 21 btc? something special of that number? I own much less so I do not fall in this group saddly.. :-)


Title: Re: How many people own 21 BTC aproximately?
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 12:01:30 PM
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