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Just noticed this on newegg

MSI RX 470 4GB for only $169.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050


Then there are also rebates for other 470s which add up to around ~$170 also.

We sure all overpayed 2-3 months ago when we bought all ours.

I've been tracking prices and when they drop on parts I purchased in the last month I message newegg. They have given the difference back in gift cards with a 90 day expiration each time. This has helped with 290 and 480 purchases of mine.

Limit 2 for now, but I just placed an order and will check them out.

Only 6Gbps RAM though.  Most Rx 470 cards seem to have 7Gbps rated RAM.

Turns out they did this because Nvidia 1050 ended up being too cheap so they had to slash their prices. No better time to become a miner.

RX480 199  after rebate  179 sick .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032


http://www.pcworld.com/article/3134063/components-graphics/amd-drops-radeon-rx-460-rx-470-prices-ahead-of-nvidias-geforce-gtx-1050-launch.html

 

http://www.theverge.com/users/rav555

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There were law suits a while back that proved that but they  keep doing it and guess what it works they get market share at a cost but it doesn't hurt them  it does hurt us the buyer .


what company makes both CPU and GPU and does it well and the same company is all ways dogged by two other company's who have deeper packets because AMD cares while the rich company could careless .

I will admit the 470 and 480 were over priced not meant to be sold at the prices they sold at we can thank NV for making AMD lower the price but NV caused the high price in the first place . that how NV controls it and they just Showed it again .Those lower cards prices from NV were intended.  cool still won't get me to buy there cards.

new prices on new egg for most 470 4 g .  even cheaper .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601203793%20601206485

The Power Colour RX 480 is just $189. Is that a good card for mining the Etheruem or the ZCash?

any Rx 470 is good for mining to get good speeds you may need to mod the bios but any 470 is good . they all run about the same at stock or modded from what Ive noticed .


ops the same for 480 my bad . forgot i listed 480 to sorry.


power color are goods card i have owned a few in the past and still own a 280 by them .


nice catch i didn't even see that 480 for 189, i may buy it .

it just came out so we might see more 480 below or at 200.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706#close

hope it s still there Monday when my money clears in my bank .

Price for the 470 still seems the same as $170.00

Which is still an amazing deal since I paid close to $220 when they first came out with shipping.

should have siad a few more different models went down but your right .

they are trying to lower stock of 470s because AMD is not producing 470s anymore - they are producing 470D now which has lower power consumption... honestly if your going to buy a lot of 470's maybe its better to wait for the stores to get their 470D stock..............................   470D is already released by AMD but most sellers wont get stock until they get their current 470 stock down

Incorrect.

The 470D is only for Chinese market

you dont get the lower power consumption models?
just going off of what my supplier told me, so yeah I guess i dont know about the rest of the world
but your really getting thrown under the bus if you dont get the lower power consumption models

No

http://videocardz.com/63940/amd-quietly-launches-radeon-rx-470d-for-chinese-market

I got some of those MSI armor cards they suck, best 470s i have found to be the g1 and windforce gigabyte cards nice backplate too

I thought it was because of nv lowing prices but cool either way the price goes down.

Yeah the GB is pretty good. Copper heatsink and nice backplate. 8 Pin etc.

What are the best GPUs for mining altcoins? isn't it odd that there are GPUs priced at $1000 and even more but when you benchmark them you'll see that for mining they are not worth a penny :)

for now the best seems the 470 on zcash with its 120 sol, otherwise for nvidia you only have the 1060 3gb which cost a bit more and does only 65 sol or something

but consumption is lower for nvidia, because of no proper optimization also, anyway i would probably not buying a new rig now

How are you getting 120 on your 470? What mem straps/bios?

i don't have a 470 rig, but you can do 120 sol by using optiminer or whatver is called, it's another miner more optimized, check the thread on the zcash forum

do newegg ship to UK? 

you can try but i don't think so you may have to use there uk site if they have one.

Here's there uk site so i would say no :"( ...

http://www.newegg.com/global/uk


The prices look close to the US price, i think, i don't know how much £142 is to you all, I mean is that a lot there ? in the Us it's 178 $, so not to bad .


cm 5 is doing close to that now

some one made post that explains we have all most maxed out the 470 with 8gb cards which might reach 146 sol 4gb half that ? .

If only ZEC price stopped going down so much.
It is making all those speed advances largely irrelevant.
Whoever shorted ZEC is making a lot of dough so far.

I keep saying that  i hate to see all the hard work every one is putting it into zcash only to see it die. then what > back to ETH :).

I'd rather stick to Eth mining, Zcash has a lot of troubles , though its profitable for now i just think its not worth putting all your mining power into it.Ethereum is stable  and with a stable mining pool , there is still a lot of profit in mining it

I heard the ZCash Zaddress can be used now.

https://z.cash/blog/new-release-1.0.3.html

New Release: 1.0.3
Sean Bowe | Nov 17, 2016

Today we're announcing the release of Zcash 1.0.3 which fixes several crashes and security bugs, improves performance, and adjusts relay policies.

We strongly recommend users and miners update to this version, as it fixes a cache invalidation bug that could be used by an attacker to disrupt the network. (See #1874.)

Other changes in this release include:

We fixed a bug that caused the wallet to crash during startup in some situations, such as when the wallet is not synchronized properly with the blockchain. (#1858)
We re-enabled note randomization that was temporarily disabled in 1.0.2. (#1814)
We adjusted fee policies to reflect changes made in Bitcoin Core and encourage relaying of transactions containing JoinSplits. (#1855)
We improved diagnostics and strengthened testing for the merkle tree's interaction with the constraint system. (#1797)
We disabled RPC keepalive features temporarily to avoid deadlocks. (#1847)
We adjusted our use of the libsnark verification API to improve zk-SNARK verification performance by 10%. (#1760, stats)
We changed the error message format for z_sendmany so that amounts are displayed in units of ZEC. (#1838)
We're encouraging all users and miners to update to this new version. See our download page and the 1.0 User Guide for more information.

For a more complete list of changes, see our 1.0.3 github milestone. To follow our progress, watch the GitHub project and join the forum.

Nope... as of now (over 2 weeks after 1.03 was released), their stinking Z-wallets STILL do no work (at least on FlyPool).  This just baffles me. How can the devs release this without Z-wallets working alone is shameful, but the fact that they have not fixed it still... what, 5-6 weeks after release... is a down-right travesty!  Is it any wonder that the price of ZEC continues to drop?  Why should anyone have any confidence in this crypto at all since the pathetic devs can't even get their Z-wallets working? Really, really sad and truly pathetic!

is it worth or even possible to mine ETH with RX480 4G ?
I have 480 8Gs but since of November 2 I'm only into Zcash

Right now I have RX480's mining Zcash.. I'm thinking about switching back to ETH, but Zcash is a little easier on the cards and doesn't seem to use as a lot of power.

I will decide in the next few days what to do because it seems ETH is more profitable by a small margin.

3x RX480 8G mobo h81m-k total 330watts from the wall and mining zcash atm.
I was wondering if it is possible with RX470 4G to mine ETH ?

Yes it is fine to use 4G cards, your hashrate will be around 25MHS for the RX470.

on ETH i get 29~Mhs with moded bios on 480 8G
I'll do a research what can I get on 470 if bios modding is possible on them, the price charmed me for next upgrade

I got 480s off Purse.io at a 20% discount a while back. Came out to around 169 each.... got 6, paid with altcoin trading profits.   Now thats mining !   ;)

right now this rx 470 is 159 on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Radeon-RX-470-Overclocked-4GB-GDDR5-Rear-Blower-4M-3-x-DP-HDMI-/291899655830?

and I have a 10% discount  limit 4 with 6 months to pay 0 interest

 And do note that the core count is cut down on the 470D vs the 470  - 1792 vs 2048.


 I did some serious number crunching on RX470 vs RX480, and the 2 speed grades yesterday based on published hashrates - and *right now* the slower RX470s come out ahead on hash/$ especially on the lower cost models - even at the system level.
 It's pretty close though, and the hash/w figures are all tightly clumped.


 I just with there were more options on blower-type cards, though the Sapphire RX470 at $179 (on the actual NewEgg site vs the eBay listing at $159 but a bit higher shippping) are petty close to the cheap PowerColor stuff that I won't even consider buying (I've had nothing but ISSUES out of the very few PowerColor cards I've owned, they're right down at the bottom with HIS non-blower cards on my list, while Sapphire is one of my "go to" brands and has been for a VERY long time).



 BTW - I was able to get a gift card "refund" on my existing order for 2 of those Sapphire cards based on that eBay listing - I'm glad philipma1957 posted it! 8-)
 That put my actual out of pocket right about the SAME as the cheapest Powercolor card. 8-)

I just got one of these in a few days ago. It has elipda memory, and is mining eth at 28.5 (1500 strap, 1200/2000).

What problems did you have with Powercolor? I bought one (a RX480 that was cheaper than any RX470)and now mining with it and it seems fine for now. It only have a 6 pins power, finger crossed that it will be fine.

my power color RX 480 i bought two weeks ago works great, i had to mode the bios in order for it to run cool and do the speeds i wanted it to . i did not use any one else es bios i had to play with it till i figured out what would work now it works the same as my 470 only faster and i plan to buy a few more they still sell at the price of a 470 .

The new leaked info on the new AMD DRIVERS due out soon lowers heat and power usage and probable runs better then Nvidia once they release .

https://www.techpowerup.com/228451/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-drivers-information-leaked

Wich version of the Rx480 Powercolor you have? With 1 or 2 fans?

Can't wait to see if it will help in mining (lower W)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

It runs hotter then i like which I'll fix later on when more/better coolers start popping up for the 400 series cards, it run even hotter till i modded it and it Uses the same power as my 470 but with higher speeds as it should and a little bit hotter then my Ref 470 by SAPPHIRE with one fan .
 
I have the fan set to 64%  ( over kill I know ) that seems to keep it below 60c, i panic when i see any of my cards go over 60 c, i know they all can run at 70 to 80 c with out issue but why if i can make them run cooler at the same speeds .

it should help miners or some one will find a way to make it work with after burner, or come up with a modded bios, if it doesn't work, out of the box.
so I'm not worried at what the AMD haters may say, till i see it my self.

The Driver release tomorrow according to a YouTube video i found..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U9KnDGUtc0

I'm actually pretty excited about the new drivers, i haven't been excited about a drivers releases in years . so well see .

 I had exactly ZERO Powercolor cards last for a year, even when not overclocked.
 Various issues, at least some seem to have been cheap fans dying but one flaked out and while the fan is still working fine can't run it at over about half GPU core clock without it artifacting and dying. (HD 7850, the ONLY one that's still working at all of the ones I bought).
 They MIGHT have gotten better since then, this was back in the HD 7xxx series days.

strange i have a  r9 280 that is a power color i still use i bought in 2012 so it not the company that's makes them maybe you had  bad luck ? . i have owned other power color cards in the past that were even older then the 280 i throw a way because i thought it was useless just before ZEC Mining started my lose . ( there was  nothing wrong with it other then i thought it was useless that was a 7870  i wish i had kept  to see how it would do ZEC mininng.

I have never  really had a bad AMD card ever by any one that makes them unless i messed it up and have had a few bad NV cards and one reason i don't brother with NV and started using AMD and plus  i have used AMD before it was AMD  in it's  ATI days before AMD bought the company when it all started and even NV cards were cheap to buy  but

 i was thinking of buying a 1070 by NV but may not .

 and that wasn't why i bought the 480 form power color because it was power color ,  it was cheap or the same price as a 470 nitro at the time, and  i buy whatever is the cheapest or best to buy for the buck  at the time when i buy it , i may buy another one in  2 weeks depends on the price .


I won't own a HIS Cards with AMD chips like i said have never really had a bad one and i haven't but there card sucked the one only one i ever owned it worked but had a lot of compatibility issue and was bitch to get working right  i even sent it in for warranty they told me there was nothing wrong with it .

 Ballpark 110 sol/s with Claymore v8 (v9 FOR ME in my testing IS BROKEN) - one HIS IceQ blower-type card, one Sapphire reference blower-type card.

 I also had issues with non-blower type HIS cards - only lost 1 card out of the 5 I bought but the FANS on all of them died in 3-6 months, cheap sleeve-type garbage.
 They used a good ballbearing blower on the Ice-Q HD 7870 I have from them.
 The living HIS fan-type cards now have leftover 60mm CPU ball-bearing fans twist-tied to them and run TONS cooler.
 I have never seen "compatability issues" with their cards, they just go way cheap on fans.

 I don't remember if the PowerColor cards I USED to have were ball bearing or sleeve - the half-broken HD 7850 survivor is ball-bearing but I think it was the last Power Color card I ever bought.



 My primary go-to brand is Sapphire, though I've had good luck overall with Gigabyte and EVGA as well.
 All 3 of those brands always use ball-bearing fans IME with them.

 Oddly enough, some of the EVGA 1070 cards I have are the "overheat and die" issue ones they had the recall on - but if you put a SANE fan profile in them they have no issue.
 The only REAL issue with those cards is they aimed TOO FAR towards "quiet" at the cost of "cool" in the default in-BIOS fan profile.

I don't know, I ordered a few of these cards initially and then ordered some more when NewEgg bumped the limit up to 5 per order. I now have 15 of these MSI Armor cards running in 3 different rigs and with Claymore's latest (v9) they are producing 200-210 sols each (Zcash), which is on par with any of the other RX470's I have.

As far as the back-plate and such, while such features may be nice, once my cards are in a rig they pretty much will stay there and the only things that matter come down to hash-rate, power draw, and longevity. As I said, the first two criteria seem to be the same as more expensive 470's and it is too early yet to judge them on longevity. They do carry the MSI 3-year warranty, so I assume they will hold up as well as any of the other cards.

quote, bought my 3x 470x for 450 usd in total, a really nice price for gpu mining power. If only mining can be more profitable :-/

Now they are even more cheaper.

Rx 470 MSI only $150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050


Pretty much kills any good resell value of these 470 GPUs

I don't personally feel that:

$169.99 with $20 mail in rebate card


is the same as $150 :P

rebate is one per household you can only use it once

i see $208 there...

sorry, not if you have 2 pay in EUR

 Mining has almost NEVER had a use for the high-end cards.
 They're all about GAMING.


 Keep in mind that cryptocoin mining by the standards of AMD is a SMALL market on it's best day - and outside of EVGA and it's backing for FAH isn't even a BLIP in the market for NVidia.

That is right. I usually the middle cards for mining.

not really true a 1080 can do 535 sol now. even if it cost you $500 it's worth it

currently 1 sol for every $1 invested is a good compromise

Please lets not turn this into a AMD vs NVIDIA battle thread.

We are all bias and AMD people keep praising AMD

While NVIDIA people keep praising NVIDIA


Both have their uses and applications and its up to the buyer to decide which one is right for them.

 1080s normally run more like $600-$650.
 I don't think I've EVER seen one with a price tag under $589 as new cards (that is lowest current SALE price on Newegg).


 They also have a MSI RX 470 on sale at $169 (as well as the Sapphire blower-style cards like the ones I bought and I think one other card by someone else) - not sure it it's Phil's favorite version or not offhand, but it looks like a no-backplate design.

yeah i know that they are sold at $500, but still at 589 with 535 sol they are not that bad, keep in mind that the miner is not finally optimized yet

as logn as you have 1/1 ratio between hash and $, it's good for me

$589 is NOT $500 or even all that close.

1070s don't achieve 1 sol / $ - they're in the ballpark but not all that close to it.

470s easily achieve quite a bit more than 1 sol / $ (my Sapphires that are currently on sale on NewEgg at $179 WITH shipping do a bit over 200 sol/s UNMODDED, others have reported quite a bit higher than I get).

You can find 1070 for 410€ here, and i do 400sol/s @50% tdp, so we are here :)

but you are right AMD cards ROI faster, but there are other factors like warranty, reselling values, electricity cost and so on, for now im pretty happy with my nvidia's but i got them for a very good price, so it helped ;)

Bought 2 Sapphire RX 470 4gb Reference (Amazon), 179$ e/o after claiming tax back (I'm living in Venezuela). Not a bad deal after all (also got a EVGA 700B in 49$). In my country you can get one in approximately 340$, so......... 

It's so sad to read all those amazing prices.. I live in europe and they are a lot higher than that! On average a rx 470 costs 235$

You can name your discount on purse.io to help with the price.