RX 470 are even cheaper now

[Charloz24]

my power color RX 480 i bought two weeks ago works great, i had to mode the bios in order for it to run cool and do the speeds i wanted it to . i did not use any one else es bios i had to play with it till i figured out what would work now it works the same as my 470 only faster and i plan to buy a few more they still sell at the price of a 470 .

The new leaked info on the new AMD DRIVERS due out soon lowers heat and power usage and probable runs better then Nvidia once they release .

https://www.techpowerup.com/228451/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-drivers-information-leaked

Wich version of the Rx480 Powercolor you have? With 1 or 2 fans?

Can't wait to see if it will help in mining (lower W)

[1715012952]

1715012952

[toptek]

my power color RX 480 i bought two weeks ago works great, i had to mode the bios in order for it to run cool and do the speeds i wanted it to . i did not use any one else es bios i had to play with it till i figured out what would work now it works the same as my 470 only faster and i plan to buy a few more they still sell at the price of a 470 .

The new leaked info on the new AMD DRIVERS due out soon lowers heat and power usage and probable runs better then Nvidia once they release .

https://www.techpowerup.com/228451/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-drivers-information-leaked

Wich version of the Rx480 Powercolor you have? With 1 or 2 fans?

Can't wait to see if it will help in mining (lower W)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

It runs hotter then i like which I'll fix later on when more/better coolers start popping up for the 400 series cards, it run even hotter till i modded it and it Uses the same power as my 470 but with higher speeds as it should and a little bit hotter then my Ref 470 by SAPPHIRE with one fan .
 
I have the fan set to 64%  ( over kill I know ) that seems to keep it below 60c, i panic when i see any of my cards go over 60 c, i know they all can run at 70 to 80 c with out issue but why if i can make them run cooler at the same speeds .

it should help miners or some one will find a way to make it work with after burner, or come up with a modded bios, if it doesn't work, out of the box.
so I'm not worried at what the AMD haters may say, till i see it my self.

The Driver release tomorrow according to a YouTube video i found..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U9KnDGUtc0

I'm actually pretty excited about the new drivers, i haven't been excited about a drivers releases in years . so well see .

[QuintLeo]

No

http://videocardz.com/63940/amd-quietly-launches-radeon-rx-470d-for-chinese-market

 I just with there were more options on blower-type cards, though the Sapphire RX470 at $179 (on the actual NewEgg site vs the eBay listing at $159 but a bit higher shippping) are petty close to the cheap PowerColor stuff that I won't even consider buying (I've had nothing but ISSUES out of the very few PowerColor cards I've owned, they're right down at the bottom with HIS non-blower cards on my list, while Sapphire is one of my "go to" brands and has been for a VERY long time).

What problems did you have with Powercolor? I bought one (a RX480 that was cheaper than any RX470)and now mining with it and it seems fine for now. It only have a 6 pins power, finger crossed that it will be fine.

 I had exactly ZERO Powercolor cards last for a year, even when not overclocked.
 Various issues, at least some seem to have been cheap fans dying but one flaked out and while the fan is still working fine can't run it at over about half GPU core clock without it artifacting and dying. (HD 7850, the ONLY one that's still working at all of the ones I bought).
 They MIGHT have gotten better since then, this was back in the HD 7xxx series days.

[toptek]

strange i have a  r9 280 that is a power color i still use i bought in 2012 so it not the company that's makes them maybe you had  bad luck ? . i have owned other power color cards in the past that were even older then the 280 i throw a way because i thought it was useless just before ZEC Mining started my lose . ( there was  nothing wrong with it other then i thought it was useless that was a 7870  i wish i had kept  to see how it would do ZEC mininng.

I have never  really had a bad AMD card ever by any one that makes them unless i messed it up and have had a few bad NV cards and one reason i don't brother with NV and started using AMD and plus  i have used AMD before it was AMD  in it's  ATI days before AMD bought the company when it all started and even NV cards were cheap to buy  but

 i was thinking of buying a 1070 by NV but may not .

 and that wasn't why i bought the 480 form power color because it was power color ,  it was cheap or the same price as a 470 nitro at the time, and  i buy whatever is the cheapest or best to buy for the buck  at the time when i buy it , i may buy another one in  2 weeks depends on the price .


I won't own a HIS Cards with AMD chips like i said have never really had a bad one and i haven't but there card sucked the one only one i ever owned it worked but had a lot of compatibility issue and was bitch to get working right  i even sent it in for warranty they told me there was nothing wrong with it .

[QuintLeo]

i thought it was useless that was a 7870  i wish i had kept  to see how it would do ZEC mininng.

 Ballpark 110 sol/s with Claymore v8 (v9 FOR ME in my testing IS BROKEN) - one HIS IceQ blower-type card, one Sapphire reference blower-type card.

 I also had issues with non-blower type HIS cards - only lost 1 card out of the 5 I bought but the FANS on all of them died in 3-6 months, cheap sleeve-type garbage.
 They used a good ballbearing blower on the Ice-Q HD 7870 I have from them.
 The living HIS fan-type cards now have leftover 60mm CPU ball-bearing fans twist-tied to them and run TONS cooler.
 I have never seen "compatability issues" with their cards, they just go way cheap on fans.

 I don't remember if the PowerColor cards I USED to have were ball bearing or sleeve - the half-broken HD 7850 survivor is ball-bearing but I think it was the last Power Color card I ever bought.



 My primary go-to brand is Sapphire, though I've had good luck overall with Gigabyte and EVGA as well.
 All 3 of those brands always use ball-bearing fans IME with them.

 Oddly enough, some of the EVGA 1070 cards I have are the "overheat and die" issue ones they had the recall on - but if you put a SANE fan profile in them they have no issue.
 The only REAL issue with those cards is they aimed TOO FAR towards "quiet" at the cost of "cool" in the default in-BIOS fan profile.

[Za1n]

Just noticed this on newegg

MSI RX 470 4GB for only $169.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050


Then there are also rebates for other 470s which add up to around ~$170 also.

We sure all overpayed 2-3 months ago when we bought all ours.

I got some of those MSI armor cards they suck, best 470s i have found to be the g1 and windforce gigabyte cards nice backplate too

I don't know, I ordered a few of these cards initially and then ordered some more when NewEgg bumped the limit up to 5 per order. I now have 15 of these MSI Armor cards running in 3 different rigs and with Claymore's latest (v9) they are producing 200-210 sols each (Zcash), which is on par with any of the other RX470's I have.

As far as the back-plate and such, while such features may be nice, once my cards are in a rig they pretty much will stay there and the only things that matter come down to hash-rate, power draw, and longevity. As I said, the first two criteria seem to be the same as more expensive 470's and it is too early yet to judge them on longevity. They do carry the MSI 3-year warranty, so I assume they will hold up as well as any of the other cards.

[Veritas Platform]

quote, bought my 3x 470x for 450 usd in total, a really nice price for gpu mining power. If only mining can be more profitable :-/

[adaseb]

Now they are even more cheaper.

Rx 470 MSI only $150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050


Pretty much kills any good resell value of these 470 GPUs

[MCWey8]

I don't personally feel that:

$169.99 with $20 mail in rebate card


is the same as $150

[Marvell1]

I don't personally feel that:

$169.99 with $20 mail in rebate card


is the same as $150

rebate is one per household you can only use it once

[Amph]

Now they are even more cheaper.

Rx 470 MSI only $150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050


Pretty much kills any good resell value of these 470 GPUs

i see $208 there...

[PanneKopp]

sorry, not if you have 2 pay in EUR

[QuintLeo]

What are the best GPUs for mining altcoins? isn't it odd that there are GPUs priced at $1000 and even more but when you benchmark them you'll see that for mining they are not worth a penny

 Mining has almost NEVER had a use for the high-end cards.
 They're all about GAMING.


 Keep in mind that cryptocoin mining by the standards of AMD is a SMALL market on it's best day - and outside of EVGA and it's backing for FAH isn't even a BLIP in the market for NVidia.

[Realetim]

What are the best GPUs for mining altcoins? isn't it odd that there are GPUs priced at $1000 and even more but when you benchmark them you'll see that for mining they are not worth a penny

 Mining has almost NEVER had a use for the high-end cards.
 They're all about GAMING.


 Keep in mind that cryptocoin mining by the standards of AMD is a SMALL market on it's best day - and outside of EVGA and it's backing for FAH isn't even a BLIP in the market for NVidia.

That is right. I usually the middle cards for mining.

[Amph]

What are the best GPUs for mining altcoins? isn't it odd that there are GPUs priced at $1000 and even more but when you benchmark them you'll see that for mining they are not worth a penny

 Mining has almost NEVER had a use for the high-end cards.
 They're all about GAMING.


 Keep in mind that cryptocoin mining by the standards of AMD is a SMALL market on it's best day - and outside of EVGA and it's backing for FAH isn't even a BLIP in the market for NVidia.

That is right. I usually the middle cards for mining.

not really true a 1080 can do 535 sol now. even if it cost you $500 it's worth it

currently 1 sol for every $1 invested is a good compromise

[adaseb]

What are the best GPUs for mining altcoins? isn't it odd that there are GPUs priced at $1000 and even more but when you benchmark them you'll see that for mining they are not worth a penny

 Mining has almost NEVER had a use for the high-end cards.
 They're all about GAMING.


 Keep in mind that cryptocoin mining by the standards of AMD is a SMALL market on it's best day - and outside of EVGA and it's backing for FAH isn't even a BLIP in the market for NVidia.

That is right. I usually the middle cards for mining.

not really true a 1080 can do 535 sol now. even if it cost you $500 it's worth it

currently 1 sol for every $1 invested is a good compromise

Please lets not turn this into a AMD vs NVIDIA battle thread.

We are all bias and AMD people keep praising AMD

While NVIDIA people keep praising NVIDIA


Both have their uses and applications and its up to the buyer to decide which one is right for them.

[QuintLeo]

not really true a 1080 can do 535 sol now. even if it cost you $500 it's worth it

currently 1 sol for every $1 invested is a good compromise

 1080s normally run more like $600-$650.
 I don't think I've EVER seen one with a price tag under $589 as new cards (that is lowest current SALE price on Newegg).


 They also have a MSI RX 470 on sale at $169 (as well as the Sapphire blower-style cards like the ones I bought and I think one other card by someone else) - not sure it it's Phil's favorite version or not offhand, but it looks like a no-backplate design.

[Amph]

not really true a 1080 can do 535 sol now. even if it cost you $500 it's worth it

currently 1 sol for every $1 invested is a good compromise

 1080s normally run more like $600-$650.
 I don't think I've EVER seen one with a price tag under $589 as new cards (that is lowest current SALE price on Newegg).


 They also have a MSI RX 470 on sale at $169 (as well as the Sapphire blower-style cards like the ones I bought and I think one other card by someone else) - not sure it it's Phil's favorite version or not offhand, but it looks like a no-backplate design.

yeah i know that they are sold at $500, but still at 589 with 535 sol they are not that bad, keep in mind that the miner is not finally optimized yet

as logn as you have 1/1 ratio between hash and $, it's good for me

[QuintLeo]

$589 is NOT $500 or even all that close.

1070s don't achieve 1 sol / $ - they're in the ballpark but not all that close to it.

470s easily achieve quite a bit more than 1 sol / $ (my Sapphires that are currently on sale on NewEgg at $179 WITH shipping do a bit over 200 sol/s UNMODDED, others have reported quite a bit higher than I get).

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

$589 is NOT $500 or even all that close.

1070s don't achieve 1 sol / $ - they're in the ballpark but not all that close to it.

470s easily achieve quite a bit more than 1 sol / $ (my Sapphires that are currently on sale on NewEgg at $179 WITH shipping do a bit over 200 sol/s UNMODDED, others have reported quite a bit higher than I get).

You can find 1070 for 410€ here, and i do 400sol/s @50% tdp, so we are here

but you are right AMD cards ROI faster, but there are other factors like warranty, reselling values, electricity cost and so on, for now im pretty happy with my nvidia's but i got them for a very good price, so it helped