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Hey guys,

I'm just a worried guy but I have some decent claims regarding this ICO, I'm less active recently so I don't know all the details about this project but I noticed a pretty big similarity between this project and "Opair" which turned out as a scam. not saying it's a scam for sure, but people, open your eyes, many people are not here to change the world, but mostly their bank balances.

The first similarity, the frontend website. It's absolutely the same, with a few photos and text changed, but everyone who have visited the Opair frontend website will notice a huge similarity.
The second thing, the Wordpress ICO script. same as Opair as well. there's no way it's a coincidence.

Third thing, both domains were registered privately. someone doesn't want his identity revealed. I wouldn't put much trust in internet strangers asking for bitcoins.

The fourth thing and probably the best one: THE NAMESERVERS. to those familiar with CloudFlare, each account has nameservers that are static for the account. they have probably hundreds of nameservers with their 10Tbps network, two accounts using the same servers are very unlikely. and to my "suprise" both Opair.co and Ebitz.org domains use the same nameservers. (https://i.imgur.com/HXh9W0E.png). I found this minutes ago and I'm confident both domains are using the same Cloudflare account.

The person behind Opair is likely the person behind Ebitz. look how Opair turned out.

Original Ebitz thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.0
Original Opair thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0

EDIT: extrabyte is already in panic and sent me a PM to try and contact CF before spreading "FUD". too bad CF keeps customer information secretive.

A little blog post I wrote to those unfamiliar with the Opair scam: https://icobusters.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/the-opair-ebitz-relationship/

BUSTED: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1698889.msg17040029#msg17040029

The fucking wesserman was the people behind ebitz project... If this will happen and I think a lot of the Ebitz supporter will get a heart attack.
Oh my god.... We need another investigation for this.
Interesting thread.

EBZ OP is also a purchased account, it reminds me deCLOUDs, Opair and oracle scam, may people not invest money on these greedy scammers.   >:( >:(

They have same similarity: OPs have same full contents bullshit to fool people

Like I said previously, this coin has ALL the red flags a ico scam can probably have, it's idiotic to invest

There was already an Ebitz unmoderated thread i think, thanks for your opinion in any case

Not sure how people fall for those scams, before investing people should make sure the person behind the project is known and trusted.

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

If everything is legit there would be no need for domains by proxy,  anonymous bought accounts at bitcointalk etc..

Here you have the answer:


So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver ;). In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

Millions of websites are using CloudFlare while two "seperate" ICOs on bitcointalk who look absolutely the same use the same nameservers out of "2,550" nameservers? so the odds are 1:2250?  ;)

You don't understand or trying to cover your traces once more, you just confirmed scam yourself. nameservers in cf are unique per cf account :

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address

This means all domains you protect will have the same combo of nameservers out of those 2550 combinations..

Since you registered the old domain with the same account it has the same nameserver combination as the new one..  And your next page will ALSO have the same combo..  Unless you create a new cf account next time :)

YIz, spread all the fud that you want. You only make us stronger. Take time to see our proposal and you will see that we have nothing to do with them. This is my last comment here. I already proved that you were wrong and explain your mistakes.

Ocminer really? Yes two different people can have the same nameservers combinations. There 2550 possible combinations for millions of sites. What you can not do is modify your nameservers.

Bye

We should get these threads joined:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697340.0

I'm glad it's your last message here. "proved" yeah sure, you are clueless enough to register two scams with the same nameservers, almost forgot.

Bumping this since it's likely the final prove needed

If people having read all this still will continue to invest, they obviously deserve that to be robbed.


In opair offered people return, but all refused.
And where they now? They lost the money.

Interesting that still more threads pop up seeing this as scam..  Looks like those threads still have to low attention

Thanx guys for this scam ico alert! ;) But many people continue to invest...

I feel so sick about these fucking scammers, they steal money so easily, but people trade and invest to earn money is so tough, buy all ico, and 80% are losses and dumped under ico. 

oh, yet another thread shouting that Ebitz is a scam.

Fuck that Scamming piece of shit.

That twat Placebo and his rent boy Lestherat are also involved.

Wasserman, also used several accounts in Opair. He is a serial scammer

copy of my previous post:

(ICO)Amount is a part of the scam.
Big volume needs to be faked to get people trust you and join the ICO.
Basically when you are uncertain you easily do as the flow does.

There is many ways faking the ICO volume:
- Use your previous scam incomes.(This one should have about 140Btc to fake)
- Hire people to join the scam and share the profit based on invested Btc
  ( This can turn into double scam and none wants to reveal that got scammed)
- Exchange admins, use other peoples money

So there is no way to tell how big the real ICO part is.
It can be 0-100%. ( Hope near zero!)

Conversation has become very interesting keep it rolling guys we really need to find out who's telling the truth at the end of the day we'll know if this project is a scam one or big potential project.

If someone has some free time I bet he could find a connection between the Opair ICO funds and Ebitz.

Wasserman probably moved the coins to a new wallet and he's draining them slowly using a bitcoin mixer, mixers usually have a time delay of up to 24 hours, meaning wasserman sends X amount of BTC to the mixer and it sends the same amount minus fee to the Eblitz address therefore faking the volume.

Fake or not, this address contains 143 BTC which are 105,000$. he made a real fortune scamming people.

I hope the most fund is fake, so less people will be scammed, it is a very serious moral issue. Opair scam is very notorious, he screwed investors and escrow-SebastianJU

By the way, they're saying they have agreement with companies but they will only release the source code after the ICO.

Even one of the companies confirms that.

All they have now is a verbal agreement not backed by anything tangible.

Quote:

We have an agreement that they will share their technical details with us after the ICO.

Money needs to be collected first.

We won't reveal anything.

All we offer is promises.

Give us 800 BTC.

Come on, if you cannot see it's a scam, then you have more BTC than sense....

He told the same in Opair.  ;D

Name of the company that confirms something?
Then ask directly from them.

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Hi everybody, BitLox here!

We are going to get our firmware updated to use this new exciting coin once the ICO ends and we get access to the tech specifics - SO we of course recommend getting a BitLox NOW....

I though it was some real company..
That is obsolete if some china guy wants to sell his wallets.

right, am done spamming their fucking thread.

you guys keep up the fight.

am off.

 :-*

Never Heard anything of Bitlox either

Any luck on identifying the scammers? 80% of the people posting there are alts and shills....

Lookiieee dat extrabyte stop answering these accusations.

A little blog post I wrote to those unfamiliar with the Opair scam: https://icobusters.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/the-opair-ebitz-relationship/

This is a scam guys

I am asking him some questions and he just deletes everything.

I did not want to believe it and I invested 0.01 BTC but am sure now I lost that money.

This stinks.

Read the previous pages, proof is already there

He deletes everything that might make the project look fishy. maybe he'll pay signature and the other campaigns again and disappear for another scam.

Why nobody wrote it negative trust? I think it will be the most effective decision to save people from its fraud.

Let's write all truth here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=333223

Yup, I agree.

I gave ExtraByte some negative trust.

This is not right,it could happen again a good graphic and a good roadmap plus agoo protion is all that it needs to pull this,they should have been warned earlier,why is this thread created after the ICO many investors will be very disappointed,big money is involve.

He's gonna scam & repeat for the rest of his life. putting a stop to those scams has to start with better awareness among investors.

As long as you will have idiots with more BTC than sense, Scammers will fucking prevail.

It's just amazing to see how many idiots are willing to send BTC without doing their due diligence.

You try to save them but they insist on getting scammed.

I don't get it.

Maybe we should contact cryptoevil and let him make this scammer red, it is a good warning. Plus, we can make scam accusation in the relevant section.

Right decision, Crypto should have left the negative feedback for becoming scam awareness for all.

We need other prove for make any scam accusation.   >:(

Next scam the nameservers will be different, that's for sure

He learned his lesson regarding nameservers. by the way, can someone check more suspicious scams on the forum for their nameservers? use http://who.is to check out if he's connected to more scams around here.

I was planing to invest to ebitz and compare them to zdash lately. I almost fall for this again. How did you guys traced whether he is wasserman of Opair?
Is the nameservers of ebitz also the nameservers of opair?

They use CloudFlare, which has static nameservers for each account. both domains are using the same nameservers meaning they are likely registered with the same account.

the user YIz found this:

https://i.imgur.com/HXh9W0E.png

Dont lie!

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Ocminer really? Yes, two different people can have the same nameservers combinations. There 2550 possible combinations for millions of sites. What you can not do is modify your nameservers.

You said it was your last comment in this thread didn't you?

Lookie who we have here.

Mr Scammer IN PERSON.

Trying to come and save your scam?

TWAT....

I've explained in this post

One would really think that a group of European Hackers with enough notoriety would be computer proficient enough not to make such silly mistakes.....

now if they are getting such basic things wrong.....ask yourself how the fuck they are going to modify Zcash's code.......

You also copied the website OPAIR, what coincidence!

1 on 10000000.

You are a liar and the swindler Wasserman, this time you are caught red-handed.

But he already made his money...

Wow, 100% busted! :o Is there any chance for the investors to get the money back?

I will let you guess the answer.

No escrow, no refund. Investors don't use brain to invest, who can cure them?

I'm convinced this is a scam indeed. this http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address is a huge proof.

If this is wasserman, he must hate me with OPair thread. but I'm not surprise he rewarded me to translate his ebitz thread and pay me btc after.  Maybe he wants to track me using the btc address i gave. one thing though, he is pretty careful about his tracks as well.

I hope this thread will raise awareness for these scams. It's Opair all over again.

nah, you will always have some idiots who will say we are just fudding and then will start shouting scam when they realize that they've actually been conned.....

Some people who have invested already will fight tooth and nail because it insults their ego and intelligence when you point out that they've been scammed.

To be honest , your childish and spammish behaviour just helped him in his cause.

Next time try to remain calm and deliver constructive posts like YIz did.

Good job on revealing the scam,
I'm removing the project ASAP of my site, I'm not at home so I'll only able to do it on the evening.

Thanks, I'm doing my best to keep it as clean as possible.

Did anyone find other coins/ICO's  with those nameservers ?

I've invested in this coin :D we will see if you are right or not... but i'm see this as a good trading opportunity...

will you still shill for it?
or maybe you can move to Zdash after all its their competitor to which you also despise lately.  Move on to some other legit coins. This forum is really infested with the motivation to scam due to anonymity protection.

Great investigation, please post it on scam accusation asap, so don't let that shitman scam more people.

Now there is someone to press on and expose thier information else this scamming can ruin the reputaiopn of this hosting company unless they are part of this though. who owns this knownhost.com? its should be easy for us to do deeper investigation :)

jonathan should be able to help - http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1454968

I wonder how many real people steped in this crap allready. Write here how many you've lost on ebitz. It's needed to compute the Wasserman's financial power in upcoming frauds

We should email abuse@knownhost.com and involve law enforcement in this case. it's not a joke anymore he scammed more than 100,000$.

It's probably not unlawful in his country.. I'm pretty sure he's no native english speaker, so no american.. It'll probably be hard getting a hold of him

its best to expose the hosting as being used by scammers here in their forum http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1454968
I'm pretty sure they don't want no connection to this scammer so they'd have to clean the mess and tell the information about the scamers.

I'm pretty sure someone can get hold of him legally as long as he's not in an isolated country. anyways I have proved beyond doubt that extrabyte = wasserman.

may be real ethichal hackers fuck him up when they find out, how he ruin their reputation ;D

Yiz, that's undenieable, good work:



https://i.imgur.com/3tGzvJE.png

That was really fishy when they couldn't answer any question that I had asked - just posting 100x times their FAQ post... And also wrote me in pm  with offer to be their ambassador in Russian local after all my unanswered questions:D

Well done YIz, eventho it is utmost saddening.

There is still a minor chance that his intentions of creating a coin are real.

People shouldn't further invest to him directly though.

Some people will never learn. Whenever that shithead placebo shows, then you can be 99,9% sure that this is a scam. The rest 0.1% is just a common sense.

Still possible that the coin will be released tho , not like he has anything to lose.

And creating equihash coins seem to be one of the easiest.

I can clone a coin too, send me 200 BTC please.

So I have just been given red trust by one of the staff of Bitcointalk- LAUDA

Disgusting to see that Bitcointalk staff are working with scammers

And he just locked the thread.

 ::)

The amount of FUD here is impressive. I cant be logged online 24/7 to moderate all the comments. For the moment, we will lock the thread for a few days. If anyone want to participare with our community can ask me an invitation to our Slack (send me a pm) - we are more more than 50 members - or contact me in ebitzcontact@gmail.com

Unbelievable, prob he will do regular bumps

Lauda,

Why?

I'm glad this was found out early. I expect those invested amounts are from developers to boost the volume popularity. Some should put red trust on that OP please to remind everyone. They're deleting some comments and only allowed Deadbirdzz to look like theyre open to negative feedbacks. It's a shame I wear their signature for few days.

More Like you're running away like a little bitch  :-*

Lauda is a hypocryte person, I afaird he will give me red too if he sees this post, he doesn't mark 100% scammer red, but gives a scam buster, who is a moral person, I am sick of this forum/

ABsolutely DISGRACEFUL

I can only Conclude that LAUDA, A STAFF MEMBER of BITCOINTALK is also involved in this SCAM.

He gave me red trust saying: "This person should learn the forum rules before engaging in disallowed activities. They were heavily spamming in a thread.'

But openly scamming on bitcointalk is allowed and encouraged.

Fuck YOU LAUDA.

Fucking FAGGOT.

I saw that you posted a screenshot in Ebitz's thread several times. Maybe that's the reason.

Also misbehaving in general - wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, cause that scammer EBitz kept deleting all evidence he is a scammer.

Anyways, LAUDA just confirmed to me by PM that scamming is allowed as it is not against the rules.

Amazing....

https://i.imgflip.com/1f3jr5.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1f3jr5) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)

He means that people must decide for themselves if something is a scam or not.   

Well, I hope that once something is found guilty of spamming, the related thread will be deleted. But I doubt it will.

spamming or scamming?

First of all, nice job YIz and DeadBirdzz. I invested a small amount, not a big loss, few $. But, as a noob, I learned something very important, THRUST NO ONE on this forum.

He locked the thread, win partially won although he made more than enough already.

I appreciate your efford and I'm sure other people do as well, there's no need to be rude man.

i have Tourette's Syndrome.

also Sunstruck is Wasserman's shill.

but thank you Yiz and Ocminer for exposing that scammer.

Seems you have the true sight ability... not.

Every dog has its day.

I have a feeling wasserman is going to run and halt this project until he can make a new scam without the mistakes he made  :D

Wow, placebo is shilling it that makes it more scammier. Everything placebo touches it turnes into a scam/fail maybe Ark is going to be one it.

Cyprto world sucks. Some people commit a crime and get away just like that with people money they robbed. And victims can't do anything. No sue, no trial, no court, no jail. Maybe it's time for the crypto community to start focus on developing a system like law enforcement to protect people money from being robbed by unresponsible scammer instead of just focusing on developing new coins only. There are hundreds of coins already. And hundreds of scams also. But never heard of scammers get jailed for their crime.

Better than Ebitz:
drop some BTCs here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697868.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697868.0)

I'm currently developing the idea for something like a "Crypto Task Force", which will likely operate under @FAILCommunity's wing. So far I have principle agreement with 2 Legendary members, which are well known scambusters. 3 more members are considered and 2 of them said they are interested.

But this will be probably a paid service, since a real investigation requires a lot of time and researching.

 

The EBITZ guy was saying he would only reveal the code after the ICO and yet when this was pointed out, people said it was just FUD.

He also refused escrow.

But still people were busy saying how amazing EBITZ was and how they wanted to invest.

 ::)

Cryptoasian #2 ?  :)

Proof Of Developer

Make an ICO and coin.

At least that will be a legitimate idea.

And Ocminer should be on that team as well.

Nah. :) More like a team with people who are 9th dan black belt in Google Fu. :) Btw, this Ebitz thing is nothing compared to what we have found so far. It's not here on the forum, because the information is extremely sensitive and a lot more work must be done.

All services are paid. Even the law eforcement in countries are paid with people money (taxpayers). That "Crypto Task Force" of yours is a great idea. I hope it will reduce the number of people getting scammed.

Let's start a crypted telegram or signal group

Believe me, we can do a lot of positive things for the community. Personally I've warned people for scams and failures worth over $200 million...


I'm really serious about this and I think its safe to name the 2 guys, which are up to. Those are cryptodevil (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980) and Gleb Gamow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=349097). But a lot of things need to be cleared out first. The idea about payments was mine, but it's not all about the money...

It surely be good to have a group of "counsellors" ... Crypto-Trust ;)

Really guys if you build a team that protect cryptocommunity from scammers and thief's,it would be the best and big step forward for cryptoland.
All of us know that these scams are stopping crypto for gaining the trust of the common people,the masses,those people who find and here the infos about this exciting world but afraid of all what they here (scams,thieves,money lost,projects abandoned) and they are usually the same ones,kinda they act in group together and synchronise their hits.

Yeah. I don't follow the ANN section for quite some time, since I'm not mining anymore. All people need to do is to point us to certain suspicious coin/asset/token/whatever, we can then make a fast research, discuss it and conclude if we have enough information to conduct investigation. All of our findings will be written down by cryptodevil only, since he's UK native and he's not hot tempered like Gleb Gamow, Spoetnik and... me. :) Yeah, forgot to mention that Spoetnik is also considered. :)


Many of these guys are doing it for free, but not many people listen. That is why I believe these findings would have a lot more exposure if we team up. I am talking about our own thread, website etc...

Yes and just before writing this I had a little modest idea.It's about why not building a new forum who accept coins or assets or whatever announcement but the project owner must fulfill trust requirements or deliver all required infos to be allowed to post and be accepted.
Kinda safe place of crypto for everyone.I don't think this idea would please moderators here  ;D
you can name it bit-trust or trustbit or whatever!!!

I don't think that such forum would succeed, because many people like to protect their privacy. I'm not against that. For example, the developer in a coin, which I'm involved is anonymous, but I can bet my 2 balls on his honesty and professionalism. :)

Fuck the moderators on here especially that twat LAuda or LADA or whatever his fucking name is.

He's just some job's worth cunt.

He gave me red trust.

Well boo fucking hoo.

There should be like a grading system that vets ICOs from now on and that should only consist of members that have consistently demonstrated that they are reliable.

And only ICOs that pass this vetting should be deemed worthy of investments.

What will you achieve with that? Nothing... you will always have cheaters... even proof of developer what does that mean? that he can develop a coin, and that is it....

What we can achieve is to find where people like you live, make that information public and hand it over to the authorities. People will be then free to sue you or just break your neck if they don't care about laws.  

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sue me for what? For posting something on a thread? To say 'xxx moon' or to say 'I have bought some xxx' :D You're so funny. First of all the authorities even doesn't have rules for cryptocoins. Maybe there are some rules in the US but certainly not in Europe. Technically cryptocoins even doesn't exist :D 

I still want wasserman to be punished for what he scammed. 100,000$ is a serious amount of money. in real life robbing this amount will result in a few years in jail.

The problem is:

First of all his coin is still in ICO so technically he didn't scam anybody (yet)

Second of all he created a coin and didn't promise anything, he just promise coins in return... he didn't mislead people with saying we will deliver this, we will deliver that...

Third, correct in real life he would have a few years of jail

and the biggest problem is

people should learn out of all mistakes... they keep on investiging in coins, me too, but if I lose then I lose and I blame myself of not being smart enough.

You'll not find me very funny if I meet you in person, bitch! That profile picture suits you very well btw. It would be a wise decision if you do not stumble in my sight or I may decide to try if you are really that hard to be founded.

there's someone from france that just lost 3 BTC on the other thread.

he might be motivated enough to go see Placebo maybe.

Belgium is not very far....

I think the group idea is good! Good job guys!!! Death to scammers..

Yo Scammer

In case you can't read, that other thief did make a lot of promises, among which Dark Market integration.

The fact that you're trying to defend his actions speaks volumes.

As I said, some people might not take too kindly to the fact that you aided and abetted schemes that made them lose BTC especially if BTC becomes very valuable.

Quite frankly, jail time should be the very least of your worries mate......

Death to all coins.... if people only trade BTC then the problem is fixed. so no scammers at all... but every day there are 10 new coins, and people keep on trading those coins. Even if you create a thread to warm people this is scam (I did that on Inflationcoin) then people still don't care. It get listed, dev pump it, other people join and dev dump it.

Aren't there enough coins already available? if people just stop buying ICO coins, stop mining new coins then the problem is directly fixed... but nope. For example ZDASH... premine coin, dev owns 100% of all coins decrease by 5% per day, but you directly have mining pools setup to mine this scam coin...

ebitz is already proven to have one dev with opair. and yet you supported them still.  if you have invested to ebitz, just say goodbye to your btc and try your luck somewhere. its the sanest thing i could do and so should anyone who had invested to it. your reaction is much funnier.

Yes, but what do I have to do with Ebitz? if Ebitz is scam then I lost my money too... so why are you attacking me? Or am I suddenly wessenman/ OPair dev?

You are very smart to investigate, I was amazed to you.
Hopefully the person who will make the scam project will think again

Yes, really utmost excellent job of YIz here, absolutely.

You might want to chat with the French guy on the other thread.

He lost 3 BTC and is going to the cops.

Good Luck.

Nice... and what do you know more... I mean... location? Where is dev? How to found out? Not that my investment is big, but still...

Indeed!!!! He should be!!! But first he needs to know some more information but it seems that YIz is getting closer, so i'm also interested to found out who he is, and how I will get my money back.

So what is next?

You have to contact knownhost.com? and based on his payments we know who he is? At least if it was paid via a credit card or so? as when it was paid with BTC then you don't know who he is, correct?

Placebo's changed his tune very quickly and now wants to track down the "scammer"

 ;D

indeed... as that would prove 1000000000000% that it is not me :D And if it is indeed scam then I like to get my small investment back too.

If you post everywhere messages on every thread, and 99.999% is scam, then it is easy to say, placebo is a scammer, blablabla... but maybe placebo just has a lot of time and spend a lot of time on this site ;)

He calls every coin "scam" and "shitcoin", but he fell for an obvious scam. Legit.

I have the feeling that Placebo is connected to this scam.

Just go back and look how he was trying really hard to make it sound legitimate.

He even said he invested like 4 BTC in one go and was investing more.

I lost 0.01 BTC but some people have lost loads.

Placebo needs to pay.

He has scammed enough BTC over the years.

Karma is a bitch.

Or maybe he has a lot of time to look at his scams.. /sarcasm

if you guys wanna track him down. this address might just help you https://blockchain.info/address/13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv

I offered my translation service to extrabyte after they posted Ebitz thread and so i translated it and he paid me 0.08162384 and it comes from 13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv

this means that this scammer already have gathered 148,028.44732682 BTC  imagine that!

LOL

Placebo you fucking FAGGOT.

You better be afraid you twat, you and your fucking shill, Lestherat.

I hope all this blows in your fucking face you scamming prick

Fuck you.

 :-* :-* :-*

opair scam got 140 btc or something like that? no?

What are you talking about... I didn't invest 4 BTC.... are you talking about this message:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.msg17017464#msg17017464

That was the total amount invested at that time :D I didn't invest 4 BTC in that coin :D

Why? It is not my coin... I didn't press the buy button for another person, so.... if I tell you to 'kill your wife', will you do it? even if I would say 'buy this coin' will you do it? DYOR men ;)

Indeed....let YIz find this guy... give him two options, repay everything to the people that invested his money or start a lawsuite.

In fact what happened with BigVern? He stole 30000 BTC.... and with the Mtgox people? They even didn't go to jail correct? This XPY guy the same, no?  

Keep yapping you dickhead.

It will all catch up with you.

All these people are looking for someone to blame and given your history, guess who's going to fall on this sword?

 :-* :-* :-* :-*

Sometimes "justice" is meted out on people when they least expect it......................

Have you seen how many BTC this address had? That's a Bittrex wallet. :)

oh  :-[ I guess its a lot harder to try that route than just going to knownhost.com and request information about the scammer. I will try to email and post to WHT forum about this scamming and involve the host about it. I'm hoping they'd giveaway the information without a fight.

Hey guys sorry for the offtopic

It's ironic after all said and done . Ebitz = Scam , ZDash huge premine.

ZClassic = Completly Transparent , No ICO , no Premine , Open community.

The Zero knowledge technology is the future.

If you want to help out we really need people to assist with writing, development, and community support. You are all Welcome
Join the Slack

https://zclassic.slack.com

Ps: im just a regular member

mate, this is a thread about a fucking scam.

Don't fucking shill for Zclassic on here you fucking idiot

WTF............  If he is so fucking rich, why this scammer continues scamming? He should addict in daily drug life. BIG SCAMMER EVER, maybe all scam ico are made by him.

No. Crypto is freedom. We can't sacrifice freedom for safety. Besides, those who loose money in different scams like ebitz deserves it. They are weak hands and betray Bitcoin. Bitcoin just punish them for treachery and Wasserman is like wolf - the doctor in forest. Weak and ailing animals will be eaten.

It has enough for makes me laugh, But If the scammer was using the mixer and I think the chance has reduced for track the scammer.

Freedom for who? for scammers?? IF Crypto gives freedom to scammers to scam then it should also give freedom to community (investor, miner etc) to do something for their safety/security.. Freedom is not just for scammers. Those so called "weak and ailing" animals you just mentioned also have freedom to seek/get help or to obtain/develop a mean to protect themselves or to cure the ailment and NOT getting eaten individually or collectively (like developing something like law enforcement system or whatever).

Hey everybody.

I'm a real person with a real company. I build hardware wallets.
You can check on our site, check Coin Telegraph, I have recent quotes there.
Check our YouTube page, heck you can see a video of myself chilling at Hong Kong harbor talking about our wallets.

NOW, these guys contacted us and asked if we would be interested in bringing their "ebitz" to our wallet.
1. No technical data was given us. We asked, they declined. They said to wait (like they told everybody)
2. If it is "similar to zcash" then fine. We are already in the planning stages for adding zcash anyways.
3. Hey, we are a small biz and will take publicity anywhere we can get it.
4. In NO WAY WHATSOEVER have we vouched for ebitz. I made that explicitly clear on my posts in their thread (which weirdly enough they did not delete)
5. I'm just living in China. For the last 15 years. I'm from originally Calvert County, Maryland, USA. My name and contact details are not a secret.

Just want to clear up any confusion. OF COURSE I want people to buy our wallets! I could care less about ebitz. I certainly have not "invested" one satoshi in them.

so will you  be able to help track them down after all you are now involved and maybe put some details as to how you were contact either by email or phone or skype. just add something that may help us find the scammer. lets help make bitcointalk a better place.

One day, i hope i will be like you, being able to verify and check, to find out all the scams to prevent one falling into it.
I am a victim where i invested $200 in Opair, $1000 in LIR, such pain.

Thanks alot for helping the community, sincerely, btw if you are free, could you provide me some guides or any website where i can learn using all this dns reverse tracking tools or so?

Thanks !

This is very unfortunate..My wife did a blog review on this just like she writes about another coins but we never knew it was run by another scammer, that is very sad. I will tell her in a little while she is having breakfast at the moment, she will be upset.

I also post it on some of my facebook groups related to crypto currency thinking that it is a good Ico to promote,now I have to dig those pos ton all the facebook groups where I post it so I can delete,people might think I'm part of the marketing team.

Well, here's some data for you - I told them to download our press kit for images etc.

On November 23rd, this is the only connection:

198.211.113.31 - - [23/Nov/2016:10:20:35 +0000] "GET /bitlox_hardware_wallet/docs/Press_Kit.zip HTTP/1.1" 200 5435851 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/54.0.2840.99 Safari/537.36"

How's that?

Resolves to New York, NY


http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=198.211.113.31&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7 (http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=198.211.113.31&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7)


And they only contacted me via email via their ebitzcontact@gmail.com address.

That is very confusing situation what is going with that ICO. I've invested some amount into that project and sad to see this thread.

I am very sad for your loss, like for everyone else who lost in this ICO and I will remove my blog post now as it is not appropriate after this scandal t have it there on my blog, even though other coins have died etc but this was a blatant scam so I must remove it.  :'(

Wait... Seems like there wasn't definite evidence for this..... It makes me feel headache about for take the final decission about this project. Anyone can confirm about this?

Check first post :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1699385.0

Not enough?

Well, I have to say, as a newbie to crypto, the ideas behind Ebitz are certainly intoxicating. I, like everyone else it seems, was pretty taken. I hope someone does eventually do what the Ebitz team promised, and I hope to be part of it (and get filthy rich).

But after spending more than about 5 minutes seriously thinking about their proposal, I became much more fascinated with the whole process of selling this thing - the psychology of it, the Art of the Con. The reality is that these guys are really kind of morons. History has been littered with them, and they're not special in any way whatsoever. But the idea that a couple of dopes could steal potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars with an Internet forum thread and a Wordpress page is really a testament to this new digital age. What else is happening all around us, all the time, without even knowing it? There's so much potential for great things, but it comes at the cost of all this garbage.

Anyway, for some reason I felt compelled to start writing an allegorical account of my journey through the Ebitz thread, if nothing else than to  ground myself (and others, hopefully) to what can seem like a strange and foreign land. It's not. The weirdness is just weird because people are lying. I gave up pretty quickly on this. The sheer quantity of absurdity was frankly hard to keep up with, and, well, you get the point. Might be a fun activity to finish the story collaboratively though…


"Imagine for a moment that as you are stepping off the subway you notice a man behind a table with a sign that says 'HELP ME SAVE THE WORLD, AND KEEP SOME FOR YOURSELFS.' He's standing there in a crisply pressed pitch black suit, smiling at folks and shaking hands. He seems confident yet earnest - he could be the local kid who sells magazines, or your favorite nephew. But something doesn't look quite right. For one, you notice that at a certain angle of view, the drape that's covering his table abruptly ends, revealing that the man is completely nude from the waist down. Furthermore, he has a badge around his neck with a photo of a soft-skinned elderly woman and the name MARGE. As you inch closer to eavesdrop, it seems that the man does not realize that he is exposed. In fact, another stranger actually comments to him that he is not wearing any pants, but strangely, the man in the suit simply smiles and very politely disagrees. Intrigued, you gravitate closer and learn that the man has just…"

Finally peoples start to realize Placebo was standing behind Ebitz and Opair SCAM.

@YIz, thanks for the great job, you saved a lot of ppls and BCT members BTC.

What???? Maybe you need to read the OPair and Ebitz thread correctly!!!!!I join ICOs for the pump in the beginning, I don't fuck... care about any coin. ICO coins are being pumped in the beginning and they all die after a few days... everybody knows that... and if you don't know that then you should not invest in coins...

This is not a coincidence, you was there in two scam ico pushing ppls to invest with your several shills alt accounts.
and by the way tell your poor story to noobs maybe they believe you.

so it turned out to be true.... sad

maybe check my 14000 posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164164

of course, i'm there... i'm almost on every thread.... if you have 14000 posts... i was on ARK, RISE,  LSK, WAVES,... threads (to name just a few ICO coins) and so much more, so saying that it is not a coincidence is really bullshit... if i would have 50 posts and only posted on those two threads then yes, then something is smeling here, but when you have 14k posts and posted something on more then 1000 threads then there is no coincidence but just busy posting a lot of posts.

How can these people still being free of posting on this forum? When people will understand?

You should really dig deep to what scammers you promote for pennies in future.

Scams aren't moderated in this forum.

And that is why his stratis scam has not been stopped yet. And why these monkeys keep throwing out scam after scam, wise up people.

This is not your wife problem... she receive a reward to write a blog, it is the same as those people that create logo's etc for a coin, it is a service that you do for a certain coin. If you need to start thinking this coin can be scam so i don't make a blog then she doesn't need to do anything anymore....a lot of coins turn out to be scam, and if it is not a scam then nobody is interesting in the coin, as dev cannot effort money to have a group of promoter behind then...

Yup you can listen to this scamming punk placebo as he has made many shitty scams like his bros at stratis. Fuck you scammers.

if nobody join the ICO then the market is done. but tomorrow there is another ico and everybody join again... you can  only stop this when BCT say, no thread allowed that is ICO related, or premine related, but then they use another forumn , or do a ICO directly on Bittrex.... and those ICOs are also not very clean.

to scam people those not into cryto that deep, only searching for a good opportunity to invest into something. And turned up it works, so more and more monkeys are entering the game.

seriously you faggot, you should stop trying to explain and rationalize things.

one of these days, all this will catch up to you.

as I said, the more valuable BTC becomes, the more you should be afraid.

Wait.... in 5 mins i will be dev of stratis too or what? which coin is next :D people need to make a difference between investing/promoting or creating my own coin. As i said to so many other people,  they can all ask Yobit to release my trades on Yobit... i have nothing to hide... nothing!

Please stop spamming (and filling) the thread with nonsense. There are enough of evidences that this is a scam, so there is no point of posting 5 msgs per minute.

What do you mean?

I removed my blog review from my blog.. At the end of the day I do blog reviews just like everyone else has coins in their signatures etc, it's not my fault the coin peeps were scammers, I didn't know that and many coins die off or turn out bad, we are all aware of the risks involved in this sphere and I have also lost a lot in investing in some bad eggs, like everyone else, or not got paid for work that was promised and have wasted my time, so we just have to consider this as another write off unfortunately. I was even going to invest in it myself but it died.

oh please,

FFS.

Am bored of this shit already.

nobody wants to know you're dying with flu.

nobody gives a fuck about your blog.

nobody is blaming you for this shit.

so stop being such a fucking dramaqueen.

Same thing here. I translated the ANN thread and promote it on facebook only to realize later its a scam.  I wanna help nail this scammer to jail.
And we now have the chance to learn his identity from the hosting company hosting his sites.

Keep an eye on the forum on the coming days/weeks. Wasserman is going to come back for more with a new scam, a new name, and a few mistakes less.

Don't invest in shady ICOs. it only fills up his bitcoin wallet and helps create more fake volume and hype for the next scam he's planning.

This is exactly what is going to happen, be aware and ask questions when you see new ICO's! Don't trust anything blindly - especially not if there is no code upfront, only hot air.

In my opinion anyone who wants to raise money needs to identify via a video and his ID. otherwise scammers are still going to make shows and money.
Don't want to reveal your identity? don't ask for stranger's money and it will put an end to the scams.

Well, they also can fake it, just think about those Indian "Microsoft Support" call centres. This is full legal there, they have a legal company with real workers but no consequences for scamming.

Maybe not in India but in other countries it will be more difficult, I bet wasserman is from somewhere in Europe. by showing your face and your ID (assuming it's real) you become known and people can come after you legally. it's not as easy as hiding behind a VPN and a username.

Yes, in western Europe it can work, but in eastern Europe there are homeless ppl, who literally sell their ID for a can of beer. I remember it in the news, there was an entire scamming company founded by some shitbags used homeless people's IDs.

that is infact what i have request on  several ICO coins, to have a webex or a skype call so that everybody knows who the people is behind the coin....

Later we'll see some new user posting on Marketplace that wants to buy a high rank account which could be wasserman. This could happen early 2017 and another ICO will happen and if it is once again not using escrow and with moderated thread. Its possibly him again.

that is true... in eastern Europe you can buy everything for a beer... and that person that sold his id will never have a clue what happpened. We had this discussion a few years ago too. Was it Bt?  Iceburgcoin?  i don't remember... the first rule should be,  just don't invest, or if you invest then you should know the risks.

You know the ID of this person? Ebitz ICO?

yeah, it's YOU

https://i.imgur.com/fGe7Zh4.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/public/Kris-Linthoudt-Ibragimova (https://www.facebook.com/public/Kris-Linthoudt-Ibragimova)

That's the new rule.

Well, just imply that he is innocent, just a bad investor. Sooner or later it will turn out anyways if he was really involved, and the crucifixion will be entertaining to watch. :D

While everybody crucifying Placebo in this thread wesserman and his gangs are in Carribean now.. Drinking tequila..smoking cigar & accompanied by some hot sexy caribean chicks.. all paid by BTC money all of you generously gave him. You people are so kind...What a wonderful life said wesserman... hmmmmm...

And someone said ebitz will be the hottest coin in 2017... Hottest coin my ass... Now where's the guy who said that.. he must be sitting in the toilet right now.. crying.. huahahaha..

They kicked me out of the #ebitz #slack team, lol. I think I got under the skin of Mr Big Nose Fake Blonde Scamming piece of shit, for posting his real pic and name in the forum.

So it is Placebo then?

Is that what you are saying?

Because somebody just reported him to the police in France.

Placebo is in Belgium, so there's a good chance that the French might take it up with Belgian Police because if it is PLacebo, he has stolen a lot of money.

Well I guess one of the two fuckers in the pictures is involved. I posted the picture on #slack and within few minutes I no longer had access. Is that proof? no, but makes you wonder. Anyway we most probably have IDd these fuckers; there has to exist some legal recourse.

Very interesting... i would like to see how this end... what if the person on that picture is not the right person? ;) then he can technical sue all people on BCT by destroying his name and he can demand fees from all people that illegal posted his picture.... and as i said before, i don't have anything to hide... I'm 100% clean on Ebitz and on all those other so-called scam ICO coins from placebo... and if a person cannot give his opinion about a coin in a thread then BCT is useless too... so there is nothing wrong with saying, i'm joining this coin, i believe it can be good, i believe this is scam, ....

It is YOU!

And to be honest, it's not really the authorities you should be worrying about.

if you say so.... maybe you should attack the real dev and not the person that say , 'i will invest in this coin' as there are 220 people that invested in that coin, i'm just one of the person that said it on the thread, and other didn't say it... but as i said... i don't care, if you try to found that guy, then have fun with him and let me know the result of that meeting as i would like to know the details too :D

Dear Placebo

You have been involved in many many scams over the years here on Bitcointalk.

Deny it all you want.

The chickens are coming home to roost.

Now man up and deal with the consequences.

The French police are starting to take these types of crime quite seriously.

And also, am sure there are some people in Belgium who have lost money because of you as well.

99% of all coins became scam, so not really so strange, don't you think... if you check your 'Real' account and check all your posts in all those threads that you posted some messages then think how many posts you had on scam coins (and not use your newbie account as a chicken, if you have some complain, be a men and use your real account like ocminer, he give his point of view using his real account, and not like you, like a baby hidden behind a newbie account)  ;) This allow for all people as there are only a few coins that didn't turn into scam. NLG... NAV....DOGE...DASH... and all the other coins....

The French police can start searching where they want :D as i said, i would like to know the result of the French police if they talk to this guy  :D  :D  :D  :D

I am actually a newbie.

I invested 0.01 BTC in EBITZ.

You can go check on the main EBITZ thread.

Good Luck looking over your shoulder.

 ;)
 

You promoting Bitland... you dev? if it is scam then we will blame you...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434155.msg17007544#msg17007544

Just using your ridicules logic here ;)


PS: You are actually a newbie... interesting... as a newbie you really have good power to see in the past... very interesting... maybe you can stop the crap and use your real user...

yes, placebo he is a troll, but not a scammer

You are certainly putting a lot of effort in trying to distract from the real issue Placebo.

Life Experience tells me only people who have something to hide react in such a way.

Have a good one.

 ;D

No, if you try to blame someone then be a men and use your real user and not like a baby hidden you behind your newbie user. Ocminer for example he has the balls to say what he thinks about me without hidding as a baby.... so if you already lie about this, why in the hell would people believe you... next time make sure when you post something that you are in the right acting role ;)

Bitch all you want.

I am not the one who has to prove that he is not involved in the theft of thousands to the french police.

Troll,  if you say i bought something and i want to increase demand by talking about that coin to generate profit, if that is a troll then i'm a troll. 95% of the people here doesn't know what scam mean, there is a basic rule, i lost money on a coin so it most be scam, that is the basic rule of 95% of the people, and the people that lose and complain the most are people that lost $5 or so.... I lost several BTCs on the mintpal, cryptsy, mtgox scams, did i complain? no, everybody knows the risks, if you cannot handle the risk then you need to found another job.

Me either... maybe that guy on the picture that doesn't have a clue :D

PS: you can use your real username, and stop being a chicken ;)

that guy in the picture is you.

have a good night Placebo.

call me all the names you want and chat as much shit as you want.

and have fun with the cops.

ciao.

Ebitz IS NOT a scam. Trust me, just send me some btc and I will give you as many ebitz as you want.

And I just read an article where someone commented the ebitz logo looks like evil corps from mr robot. I should have seen it coming.

damn, it is a fucking shame ppl don't invest ark real project but lose money in scam project ebits, fuck you wasserman.

fuck, no wonder so many scammers here.

Claimed by someone who also tried to scam 40-70 btc thru loan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696753.0

you guys saying Placebo is involve to all these scams? anything is possible though but is he a dev of some coin in the past?

That's because the staff and mods don't play judge/jury/executioner, that's my job  ;)

Investing in projects on BCT is done at your own discretion. This is an open forum. Why anyone would invest in an ICO with anonymous developers or project managers is beyond me..

Maybe this guy is real wasserman, blatantly scam people again. I am tired of daily scamming behavior in bitcoin land, when bitcoin price is bigger, the more scammers will come.

This is why everyone needs to choose wisely for every investment. Mods can't keep an eye on every thread

Just leaving my bump here

I am really curious about the options we have currently. we used to have that German lawyer here, iudica. he tried to help in the past regarding the Opair scam and maybe he could help legally regarding wasserman's 2nd scam (he's probably involved in more than two), if we can find out his real identity, by contacting KnownHost or otherwise, we could maybe take legal actions but I have no experience in the legal field.

By the way, a possible clue to finding wasserman's identity is finding who made the Opair promotion video's voiceover. which, by the way, is removed now. (used to be in this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwq_Dx3oXk).

The fact he deleted this video means he's reading my posts, because I have said that we should find out who made this voiceover when Opair turned out as a scam.

Luckily, I knew he would do it and I downloaded the video in advance and reuploaded it at: https://vimeo.com/194036329
And by deleting the video he made my suspicion that the person who made the video knows his real identity stronger  ;)

pretty sure that this voiceover was some freelancer from fiverr

Maybe, but he needs to pay the freelancer some how.

Whoever got scammed here kind of asked for it. This had scam written all over it from day 1.

Of course, opair scam bought the service including website, he is armando farpa, electroniccash found his name.

Armando Farpa is wasserman?

Any concrete proof to give to the french police?

I want to ask about your opinion of all the signatures that are provided by Ebitz around 4 BTC, distributed into escrow in the total for signature approximately 4 BTC for all followers of signature Ebitz, so all the rest 3.1 BTC only paid 2 weeks during this signature walk, whether it's fair enough for you, and these funds, do not know which party will be given ??

This just made me look for the guy and I did found something very strange! These days I'll ask cryptodevil and Gleb Gamow to engage with me on this, but Gamow is moving to another place and he's currently busy. I hope that cryptodevil will have some spare time to waste. More to follow...

You should pay all the idiots who promoted this scam their signature bounties.

Any remaining funds should be used as a Bounty for any information that can lead to the identity of that scammer being found.

I forget the link he post, so electroniccash will post it, I hope so. He likes busting scams too

Did you try to contact people on Fiverr? But still, then you only found out the person that got paid to do the video... I think the best shot is to contact KnowHost with all the information that was posted here and if he paid with a credit card then he is fucked.

Lookeee Here.

Placebo the scam promoter has now turned over a new leaf and is now actively hunting scammers.

I guess a leopard can change its spots....

Companies will only release information to law enforcement.

So let's hope that this french person's brother is indeed a policeman and is indeed going to hunt down this scammer, otherwise it's just a bunch of hot air, like Placebo....

As i said... I ALSO INVESTED MONEY IN THIS ICO!!!!

Calm down dear.

don't get your knickers in a twist.

This had all the hallmarks of a scam yet you were actively shilling for it.

 ::)

Anyways, I hope this is really getting taken up with law enforcement.

If he's within the Eurozone, there's hope he can be tracked down and forked hard.

YIz, please delete your comment...

Alright, I guess it's not allowed to post images from facebook then? or names?

It's not about that. I and hopefully cryptodevil will investigate this and such revealings are not helping. I assume you understand why. :)

just found thread...assemble a team for sure.
glem on the case for sure

The best is to not post any evidence here... that some dedicated smart people work together and from the moment they have enough information then release it so that he cannot remove any information.

Glem is currently relocating, so he's most likely won't investigate this, but he's definitely up for the idea about the team.

I'm up for the team if you want me to join.

i guess that got me for some BTC thank god it was not much scumbags

embarrassed to say, he/she or they, got me too.

so this is another scam i see the ico page went offline

Yep, this is the end my friends. But hey, you win some and you lose some. I guess in the crypto world you just lose more than win.

terrbile  ,  so open eyes ,  open and never blink ......

Glad I did not invest much into this one....

The scam is gone by so long time, did those scammers' shills still believe this coin? Shameless scammer, wasserman. Did people found the scammer in real world? No, you guys need to do more research.

i do not understand what is lying here and what talk is going here and for what.

keep it up with same consistency and never foget that best is yet to come or in they way of us.

What was the bitcoin address of this ICO? I want to see if I can track the funds.

Please comment in this thread if you are a victim: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921711.0

it is a fucking shame ppl don't invest ark real project but lose money in scam project ebits, fuck you wasserman.

Telegram group for victims in the ebitz or opair ...  @OpairEbitz

Join us here or comment here or pm YIz with any new info.

Anyone ever find the Opair/Ebitz scammers?  Boy thats a ton of money now.