[ANN] Ebitz - Unmoderated thread - Confirmed connection with the Opair scam

[YIz]

Hey guys,

I'm just a worried guy but I have some decent claims regarding this ICO, I'm less active recently so I don't know all the details about this project but I noticed a pretty big similarity between this project and "Opair" which turned out as a scam. not saying it's a scam for sure, but people, open your eyes, many people are not here to change the world, but mostly their bank balances.

The first similarity, the frontend website. It's absolutely the same, with a few photos and text changed, but everyone who have visited the Opair frontend website will notice a huge similarity.
The second thing, the Wordpress ICO script. same as Opair as well. there's no way it's a coincidence.

Third thing, both domains were registered privately. someone doesn't want his identity revealed. I wouldn't put much trust in internet strangers asking for bitcoins.

The fourth thing and probably the best one: THE NAMESERVERS. to those familiar with CloudFlare, each account has nameservers that are static for the account. they have probably hundreds of nameservers with their 10Tbps network, two accounts using the same servers are very unlikely. and to my "suprise" both Opair.co and Ebitz.org domains use the same nameservers. (https://i.imgur.com/HXh9W0E.png). I found this minutes ago and I'm confident both domains are using the same Cloudflare account.

The person behind Opair is likely the person behind Ebitz. look how Opair turned out.

Original Ebitz thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.0
Original Opair thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0

EDIT: extrabyte is already in panic and sent me a PM to try and contact CF before spreading "FUD". too bad CF keeps customer information secretive.

A little blog post I wrote to those unfamiliar with the Opair scam: https://icobusters.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/the-opair-ebitz-relationship/

BUSTED: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1698889.msg17040029#msg17040029

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[shinratensei_]

The fucking wesserman was the people behind ebitz project... If this will happen and I think a lot of the Ebitz supporter will get a heart attack.
Oh my god.... We need another investigation for this.
Interesting thread.

[StratisKing]

EBZ OP is also a purchased account, it reminds me deCLOUDs, Opair and oracle scam, may people not invest money on these greedy scammers.  

They have same similarity: OPs have same full contents bullshit to fool people

[ocminer]

Like I said previously, this coin has ALL the red flags a ico scam can probably have, it's idiotic to invest

[Loco Motive]

There was already an Ebitz unmoderated thread i think, thanks for your opinion in any case

[YIz]

EBZ OP is also a purchased account, it reminds me deCLOUDs, Opair and oracle scam, may people not invest money on these greedy scammers.  

They have same similarity: OPs have same full contents bullshit to fool people

Not sure how people fall for those scams, before investing people should make sure the person behind the project is known and trusted.

[extrabyte]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

[YIz]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

[extrabyte]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

[YIz]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

[ocminer]

If everything is legit there would be no need for domains by proxy,  anonymous bought accounts at bitcointalk etc..

[maxwelllord]

THE ATTENTION THE PROJECT IS SCAM.

BEHIND the OPAIR and EBITZ PROJECT there is one person.

WASSERMAN RETURNED.

[extrabyte]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

[YIz]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

Millions of websites are using CloudFlare while two "seperate" ICOs on bitcointalk who look absolutely the same use the same nameservers out of "2,550" nameservers? so the odds are 1:2250? 

[ocminer]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

You don't understand or trying to cover your traces once more, you just confirmed scam yourself. nameservers in cf are unique per cf account :

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address

This means all domains you protect will have the same combo of nameservers out of those 2550 combinations..

Since you registered the old domain with the same account it has the same nameserver combination as the new one..  And your next page will ALSO have the same combo..  Unless you create a new cf account next time

[extrabyte]

YIz, spread all the fud that you want. You only make us stronger. Take time to see our proposal and you will see that we have nothing to do with them. This is my last comment here. I already proved that you were wrong and explain your mistakes.

Ocminer really? Yes two different people can have the same nameservers combinations. There 2550 possible combinations for millions of sites. What you can not do is modify your nameservers.

Bye

[maxwelllord]

Pay attention to a way of creation of answers Wasserman. In particular as it begins and finishes, look here:

Hi,
We already proceed all the pending request of XPO. Currently only 116 out of 187 only ask for his tokens. If you can start mining would be great. We are going to keep our premine minting as soon as we finish to distribute the XPO to all investors. The username "edy99", please contact me (you add a btc address instead the xpo address).

If anyone who already request his token didnt receive it, please send me a pm.

Regards

Hi,

We already proceed all the pending request of XPO. Currently only 112 out of 187 only ask for his tokens. If you can start mining would be great. We are going to keep our premine minting as soon as we finish to distribute the XPO to all investors. The username "edy99", please contact me (you add a btc address instead the xpo address).

If anyone who already request his token didnt receive it, please send me a pm.

Regards

Hi,

I dont understand all this drama. I know the price go really low but this is not our fault. About the beta we always said that we expect to be ready on the second half of the month.

About bittrex, we talk with them but they found a lot of FUD (or "opinions") on our thread and after that they never reply again.

Tomorrow we are going to send the pending requests.

Regards

And now look as builds the offers of extrabyte:

Hi,

TheKB, we are in the same position as before with Bitlox. We reached an agreement but they dont have access to the code in advance. At the moment, he is working / reviewing the code of Zcash, since the changes made in it for us are not so significant for his product.  Dana, if you want I can send you an invitation to our slack.

Bye

Hi,

we use PoS instad of PoW, please check and let me know if you have another cuestión:

Quote
Proof-of-stake (PoS) is a method by which a cryptocurrency blockchain network aims to achieve distributed consensus. While the proof-of-work (PoW) method asks users to repeatedly run hashing algorithms or other client puzzles to validate electronic transactions, proof-of-stake asks users to prove ownership of a certain amount of currency (their "stake" in the currency).

More info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake

Bye

Hi,

No, the 25% bonus finish on November 30 at 13 PM (UTC). Thanks for your support, just ignore the trolls.

Bye

I with confidence can tell that the semantic analysis says that it is the same person.

[username_007]

We should get these threads joined:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697340.0

[YIz]

YIz, spread all the fud that you want. You only make us stronger. Take time to see our proposal and you will see that we have nothing to do with them. This is my last comment here. I already proved that you were wrong and explain your mistakes.

Bye

I'm glad it's your last message here. "proved" yeah sure, you are clueless enough to register two scams with the same nameservers, almost forgot.

[ocminer]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

You don't understand or trying to cover your traces once more, you just confirmed scam yourself. nameservers in cf are unique per cf account :

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address

This means all domains you protect will have the same combo of nameservers out of those 2550 combinations..

Since you registered the old domain with the same account it has the same nameserver combination as the new one..  And your next page will ALSO have the same combo..  Unless you create a new cf account next time

Bumping this since it's likely the final prove needed