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Not "Let the code handle it", but this time "Let the community handle it!!"

This is a pre announcement for an upcoming ICO to take over the XVC project by hiring good devs from ICO funds.

Why this take over?

Because John Connor thinks he can play games with his community. It is time to show him what a community is by taking over the project and finishing it by friendly and good developers.

No coins to divide?

Yes, there are XVC coins...which are very cheap at the moment in the exchange. This is a community take over and that means the community are investors.

Why would this work?

I don't know if this works...i never did this before and i don't know how this will go. But what i do know is that the project is gorgeous, but the former dev had no emotional skills. So i'm trying to find 2-3 devs who can work on this project which will get paid by the ICO funds. And i do this at the moment when this coin is at a very low price. Maybe we can show John Connor that even he needs a community to get something done. You can code like a badass, but if you act like a autistic prick everything you make will fail in crypto world.

How much should be raised?

I don't know. Maybe a discussion how much should be raised is welcome in this thread. Also if it is possible to fork it. But i want to do something, because the code is stunning. And not because i am a bagholder also.

So, let the community decide now. It would be great if we could organise an ICO which attracts developers to work on the code. Because with a good community this code has great potential. And a big middle finger to John.

I've thought about this, but it would be necessary to fork away from "his" code into a trusted coinbase setup as he simply could have coded too many "backdoors" into his code.. It was him obviously very easy possible to fork off pools and bigger miners from "his" chain and make "his" chain the valid one, even if the "bad pool" had much more power than him, this should never be possible for any coin.. not with > 51% of the power of the net and of course not with less..

I see lots of problems with the current code.

Maybe it needs auditing before we work on it.

this mean XVC reborn and replace owner
i think must create new branding can get collect much bitcoin ico selling
without rebranding i think is very dificult interest investor to buy in ico selling

How about just create a new genesis block and call it chocolatecoin?

That would be groundbreaking but i think it is taken. Plan B?

Won't work, all his backdoors / tricks are still in the code - the code can't be trusted in its current state.

lol you are fast.. lurking in slack? if you cannot protect your pool dont come here bashing with fud like a ctr shill ;D

if you can point us to 1 backdoor you can earn some respect back

Not a bad idea, watching

What problems in the current code?

i do recall hearing john talk of modifying the code in such a way that it could note be cloned, im sure there would be backdoors or traps involve, would be rather risky without an intense full code audit.

John Connor is the good guy compared to the ones who have been hard at a takeover for almost a year now.

Someone tell me all the coins the dev John Connor  has been involved in before, i am sure there has been several.

He was behind NUD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0

Scumbag bagholder with no vision that bought at 40k wants to initiate a community take over, and an ICO on top of that. I mean, what could go wrong ?

Totally Rekt!

Who are you referring to?

Oh sorry I missed who you are :)

Obviously he was able to fork off pools/miners from "his" chain without even having more than 51% of the network, if that is not evidence enough.. Well..
And no, it wasn't only my pool :)

What do you mean by "protecting a pool" ? I'm running pools for years and I know very well how to "protect" them, or was anything hacked ? He forked off and banned the node(s) of my pool three times, invalidating blocks on the pool even while the pool had a lot more than 50 % of the network.

He was claiming the pool's p2p node was "open" - well.. A p2p port is designed to be open, isn't it ? :) The RPC port is the port which needs to be protected and XVC doesn't even have password authentication for the RPC port neither does it have host-based access restrictions.. Every bitcoin based wallet has that since the very first version.. (rpcallowip... rpcusername/password etc) ... So the only way of protecting a XVC wallet is by making it listen on 127.0.0.1 only and having iptables rules in place.

I have found a dev who is going to look at it. Also another one has knocked at my door. Lets fork this shit

If it that easy to fork it then I'm sure it would have been done by now. Is that what wbb have done because I notice their features are similar or are they using a different approach? 

Either way I hope they can revive this coin a bit lots of people put their faith in this coin and must be pretty damaged financially about now. I don't think JC can come back from this.

We dont need JC. He is to fragile and should take his meds

I Hope , but I think this shit is done.

WBB?

Did they fork Vcash?

errrmm WUT?

oh damn VCASH VANILA COIN is dead, lucky i sold long time ago,lol

please do something to revive this coin, start some promotion, give-aways and anything that will help for the exposure of this reinvented coin,
it's life is still on your hands.

Smart guy. I hold some but I think its done.

Its not done....i have two devs now who are looking into it...one is a well know dev.

So are we about to see the birth of XVC CLASSIC?

You guys going to stick a massive fork up John Connor's Crazy Ass?

 :o :o :o

Lol, JC had the time to ban me out of Slack.

Don't you like it, little kid? I have some more surprises for you ;)

ummmmm not sure where you're getting your info from or you've bee misled as to what WBB is and is doing/are planning to release.  or you're just trying to spread "subtle" fud bullshit.   they have zero in common so please stop saying otherwise.

xvc wishes they had the upcoming stuff that wbb has coming lol.

xvc is now dead so just put the final nail in the coffin.  as usual without proper work/dev behind it work will fail and you can forget about "community" help because nobody is techie enough nor cares enough, they just want pnd action.

If you dont close your inbound tcp ports for the daemon you are not qualified to run a pool lol.

Stratum is the only port that should be open to the public and talks internal to the daemon.

Crybabies

Lol and the daemon talks to itself because it isn't allowed to communicate with other peers, right?

You have p2p ports and rpc ports.  Of course close the rpc port but p2p is the port which connects to other daemons, other wallets...

Drunk?

Just use waves or iconomi platform to create free coin with working node.hehehe

LOL i get it, you dont know how a firewall works.
You dont want external peers connecting to your node, you submit your work to the network.
Only outbound is important so you get a firewalled peer, how else does the BTC client work behind a router with closed ports? ROFLOL

Are you really that stupid?  ;D

Can we stay ontopic please?

LOL, I see a real network expert here :)


http://www.humorandmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/He-s-right-you-know-in-b4-morgan-freeman-meme-_b48abe3e7827cd066915c3e45c64f3ae.jpg

Of course you want external nodes connecting to your node, this will propagate your blocks faster, especialy when you're a pool. You always want as much connections as possible, your're not a peer, you're a pool.. If you're not connecting well, your Blocks won't propagate fast and you'll have problems with orphans. Thats also the reason why there's always a main and a backup node, one gets direct blocks from stratum and communicates with backup node as well as with other nodes on the internet to get this block propagated as fast as possible on the network.

"Bad" or "malicious" peers are or at least SHOULD be automatically banned by the daemon, you can see that as "misbehaving" in the log of the daemon.
If that doesn't work or is disabled intentionally you or ALL peers are having a BIG problems, as EVERYONE with an open wallet is vulnerable to those attacks.

Oh and btw, you firewall expert, you of course CAN block incoming connections and only allow outgoing connections but what about the incoming data over the outgoing connection ? So you don't want to accept any traffic coming in ? :)

A few thoughts

1. not the right place to open this thread... apparently it still only a discussion so why here on announcements board?
2. No coins distribution right? so people should simple send you bitcoins hoping that you will solve xvc problems(remove jc, put new devs, start advertising etc etc)?
3. Vcash name is done, big whales will never come again, so we should be discussion a new coin not vcash..

Anyway, hope you achieve what you are proposing... good luck.

By making your node public it starts to become probed for collateral, relays encrypted data, votes, seeds the blockchain, etc for services such as ZeroTime, Node Incentives and Chainblender. Because other nodes can connect to you will seed the blockchain to other peers more often and possibly see increased memory growth from Berkeley DB keeping excessive dirty pages. By firewalling your node it will keep a fairly constant memory pattern as it is only performing relaying. The only reason to have the p2p port public is if you intend something described here.

And this is exactly what is needed :)

Btw in bitcoin/dash nodes you can limit all those stuff in the config file.. "rpcmaxconnections" etc..

If you disable incoming connections or disallow incoming traffic at all, your node will have only 1 connection (the outgoing connection) and you'll have lots of orphans and lots of problems when that one connection goes down.

Still XVC has a big problem with authentication. By default it listens on  port 9995 without any username or password or even host authentication which of course makes it a viable target for hackers. At least it defaults to 127.0.0.1 but IMHO it shouldn't be possible at all to allow listening on any port without password (rpcusername) or hostname (rpcallowip) auth. But yes, this can be fixed by iptables etc... Hopefully everyone does that...

No it's not needed, as long as you have 8 outbound connections there are no problems.
Inbound = overhead, rest should get handled with proper opsec.
I'm just explaining why your pool forked on xvc, its not your so called paranoid backdoor.

Good point, this is a complicated part of the coin, specially the fact that it's stated several times throughout the instructions not to open the RPC port.
The thing is that this, in itself, shows John the bad actors.

Hope he being out is just him dealing with this bug to avoid these absurd claims. The RPC port being closed, it is protected.
This rule is probably there because of other parts of the coin, such as chainblender.

I disagree, the pool running like this for years until JC in public stated he banned my pools node(s). (Check twitter pics!) It forked because he used his code and banned the pools IP and/or wallet address, not because anything on pools side was improperly configured or not going normal. He was actively fighting against the pool as said so in his twitter.

hmmmmm, who should I trust?

OCMINER or that fucking dramaqueen called "John Connor" who just ass fucked a lot of his investors without any lube?

Decisions, Decisions.....

John Lennon - Adam and Eve  :o

Badass said on xvc slack that he "is sure that John will come back to take over this under different pseudonym". And now all of a sudden Badass tries to lead a takeover. Is this John trying to shift attention to someone else? He already did this once saying that "MM" is controlling the market but this mythical MM was John himself.
Now I'm not sure if Mazz was just a sockpuppet or he is a part of this con and he is playing a victim.

First of all new XVC devs should not be anonymous.

Yes, i'm JC  ::)

It's too early to say john-connor abandoned XVC. You guys should wait until the beginning of next year.

yeah sure, everyone lost a bunch of BTC's and we should wait for a positive reaction from him until next year. If it wasn't him, why is he not coming to Slack then?

1) He got banned from slack.
2) You have your takeover https://github.com/vcashcommunity/

Time to get the popcorn

 ;D

I will not say anything else tomorrow XVC is my coin too and i collected the BTCs. I'm waiting for the first messages :D

I have the basic HTML skills and I can build the Excel's diagrams.
That's enough to become the new developer?

Dont trust that.
Many people, including me, have cloned the code before all this shit.
John Connor did modifications yesterday shortly before that fork was created, probably filled with exploits.

I am interested in development of this coin.

I'l be watcking this coin, sound interesting.

If mazz isnt part of the JC's scam, why does he continue deleting posts on the community's official thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1578775.140

Looks like JC identity has been found

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504342.msg17074316#msg17074316

Let`s make XVC great again!

I wondered why ICO is causing the decline.
Yes, it seems cheap and there is a need for a safe environment.

Buying is risky as risk is losing in the winner!

Has the ICO begun?

wtf are you talking about?

you need to get some english lessons before trying to pass yourself as a translator.

 ::)

Lets paste in here, before it gets deleted from the other topic :)

Jolix is his internetname for years ;) and dev of Bitrocket

Who, this guy? http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45080

Lol, JC is realy shy, he already deleted Julian Cain twitter.

Mazz said on slack channel that he is going to heavily invest in the marijuana industry... Coincidence? JC's buddy accidentaly exposed himself.

hmmmm, interesting......there is some evidence that heavy cannabis use in some individuals might induce psychosis if said individuals have certain pre-genetic dispositions to mental illness.

That certainly correlates with John Connor/Julian Cain's "tantrums" should we say.

As long is xCore is doing a takeover WITHOUT JC there is no need for an ico or any other group who wants to take over.

Looks like John Connor of Vanillacoin/Vcash/XVC got finally exposed. (thanks to "thelion07). The scammer's name is Julian Cain, although some are not 100% sure.


Now, to expose this scumbag even further:

1 - His twitter page does not exist anymore:

https://i.imgur.com/WiCvnyR.jpg


2 - Not only that, but his linkedin page was also closed.

https://i.imgur.com/IYU3Zsi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aMZEe6E.jpg


3 - Fortunately, i have managed to get some info from his Twitter and found out this (from 2009):


https://i.imgur.com/TAAzRUd.png

He was tweeting/retweeting about drugs  :)

https://i.imgur.com/58rXPJF.png




4 - Now let's head over to Slack: (This conversation is from 10th of August 2016)

This is just a small sample, but trust me, this guy knows his drug shit better than the p2p protocols he's worked on.


https://i.imgur.com/hgU8vA5.jpg


5 - Now, even more data:

https://i.imgur.com/8ypQCL5.png


https://i.imgur.com/wBSUZ9W.png

https://i.imgur.com/oo5rijg.png

https://i.imgur.com/wzpqhBZ.png


6 - Additionally, some articles from the internet with our friend JC (Julian Cain, John Connor)


http://bit.ly/2g0C4J0
http://bit.ly/2g8YzyJ
http://bit.ly/2gE0onE
http://bit.ly/2gRbYcS
http://bit.ly/2gRbYcS

Received this from user "newfnd"

https://i.imgur.com/22zI79Q.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/L2AdmlI.png

It's HIM

https://i.imgur.com/yHe4V7e.gif


The scumbag is done!

"Thank you for your support  8)"

Also, i would not trust these guys and their takeover. Given that they are all anonymous, the scammer Julian could easily be at the helm right now, trying to scam his users once again.

So XVC's dev is allegedly an ex-KaZaA engineer and ex-lead developer at BitRocket (acquired by BitTorrent). No wonder XVC's blockchain and network scales so well. He is truly a master at developing p2p networks.

Nice find on the picture. Though he is 26 years old in the picture and 39 years old now.

Yeah.  Network is solid.  Zerotime works well.  Chainblender works well.  2-year blockchain is under 1GB.

Ah I told you all months ago, he was likely a former developer of a Bittorrent client. I could detect that by the types of expertise he seemed to have and the nature of his designs for Zerotime and anonymity (which were both flawed).

Wow we got him...

Couldn't agree more. This coin needs as much transparency as possible and won't handle another anon dev.

I heard xCore and some others are pushing this project forward, so i stop this ICO thing. We better help them. And no, they are not JC.

I cant believe this is happening, cant we just rewind the story back a few months and nt need any of this.

Very good forward

Finally. Now I see the properly cooked takeover is taking places. Cant say Im surprised or anything, but one little thing to have in mind before u accept the current course of actions as given: what exactly is being taken over? Code base site, acceptance, community driven online services or what? Its doomed, what to take over. Its over, this is my take.

Linux nodes always compiled directly from public vcash github. Not a problem.

xCore has been working with the code for over a year, he has the code and skills to put out an updated wallet and keep the chain running just fine. Developing zeroledger may be a different story. He also was going to put out the android and iphone wallets once zeroledger (thin client) was done. It probably is done, but don't know if JC left it for xCore to work on. And to put anyone's mind at ease, xCore is WELL known in IRC rooms as he made most of the tip bots, rain bots, and pricing bots before Vcash. He has nothing but the communities best interest and continuation of the coin at heart, and JC gave him access to a lot of the code which he was part developer. He worked for free, for the love of the project and knowledge, and even JC scolded him and treated him badly.  xCore is a person with good character, complete opposite of JC.

Interesting is that XCORE´s Coding Style looks nearly like this of JC.

xcore could be Julian Cain, or whatever new dev could be JC...

this is what happens with anon developers...

A bunch of shameless creatures with no coding experience that are trying to milk off the scammer's work because they are bagholding since 40k

Or maybe xcore is julian john cain connor ashley, trying to scam his users once again.

I now read a lot about xcore... it seems he isnt JC but i looked some code´´s from he...looks really good.
I think he can manage it...

I will wait some days to look @ the chart but i think the raising will now beginn...

Buying Side is now also good

So it appears, I was mistaken here. No code base, no site, no block explorer. Yeah just a snip. Several diligently bagholding punks busy trying to paste together a broken wheel. Remember guys broken things cant restore. Ur broken hopes is just a nightmare of fabrication.

Dont tell Bullshit, the Community found a new DEV, we make a new SLACK,new PAGE everythink new, because old DEV deleted it.

Here are the new Link


https://vcash.info/
https://vcash.slack.com
https://twitter.com/VCASH_NEWS/followers

I think in one or two weeks XVC will be on old Price.
Good time to buy some more.

XVC is nothing without JC.
stop kidding yourselves.
Only desperate bag holders are trying to grasp on to the remnants of this shit show.
Let it die FFS

Jc is a genius, but very crazy, he fucked the coin for the drunk of a compulsive junkie

Does the new dev has access to the entire code? I don`t think so  :(

yup looks like it.
what a fucking loser.

Of course, he did a lot in Vcash ...

Firstly, xCore is not JC. He has been in IRC for years programing tip bots, rain bots, price bots, etc. He also helped JC as a dev with the wallets, mobile apps to be released, etc. And he did all this for free. He learned a lot from JC, but JC even scolded him and was a jerk to him like everyone else. xCore and I believe Kryptrichards have cloned the github and have the code. Development is going on by trustworthy people.

xCore has always been cool as fuck too. Helped me out a few times when I needed it. JC was just a dick and would always just say  "read the papers".
Even their talking style is completely different.

Same person different personalities  ;) ;D

why would you stick your fingers into xvc when youre not even a developer? so we can also pay you some provisions? bhuaha

So when will this new ico start? Lets get it over with already and move on.

Has this been put on hold?

Is there any progress or is the takeover also dead?

Not really. Someone took on responsibility to crowdfund money for hiring professional coders. In case the money is successfully collected that person will keep it and sneak away from this thread without further notice.

Still waiting on xCore to return or say something, it's been 3 weeks, that is not like him.

Looks like he has left the project also :( he never did such a behaviour

So, what's the status here?

New wallet to dload today. Strengthen network. Get exchanges going again.

Go to http://www.vcashproject.org/ or directly to https://github.com/vcash-project/vcash/releases to download the new wallet 0.6.0.1, help stabilize the network.