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Nice find from Kelticfox here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/1709-browsing-bfl-facebook-page-made-me-chuckle.html#post23137
Thought I share this with you for giggles ...

Kelticfox: I was linked to the BFL Facebook page today and was flicking through the old posts and this made me chuckle.....

20th September 2012
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27th November 2012
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13th December 2012
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18th January 2013
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22nd January 2013
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22nd January 2013
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26th February 2013
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26th February 2013
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Made me chuckle.... got to the 26th February and BFL are like "Screw it.... "

Hilarious.

Hopefully some thieves go to jail for this fraud, or in the case of some BFL officers *BACK* to jail for fraud.

Nice find!

Very nice graphic way of illustrating that the final stages have been rolling on for about 6 months and counting! What sort of project manager does this? A competent PM would foresee all these difficulties and plan ahead instead of delaying the project and still keep raking in people's pre-orders (which is not very good business practise either) and further delaying shipping dates.

BTW, I got an email from BFL that the shipping dates will be in July.... or before! When I ordered, it was in June. Lets see how many months this keeps on going!

Shipping late is theft? I better go change the legislation.

actually most pre-order people do have a good civil case right now.   The date was changed so many times and they are losing money.....
Fraud would be telling someone you are shipping next week WHEN YOU KNOW THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
That has occurred several times hasn't it?

It's nice how it's obvious after it happens, right?

No, it was obvious several times to Josh wasn't it?  Why deny it?  Several times he has said he is a week from shipping BEFORE HE EVEN BUILT A PROTOTYPE.
That would be fraud.

I'm one for "innocent until proven guilty", so let's look at the facts:

• A company takes money for a product that they say they will give by a certain time
• They fail to provide that product by that time

That's guilty in and of itself, but most people will give more time-- so we do! Another month. Then another. Then another. How much guilt do you need to call someone guilty of lying? And if the lie is related to a promise of service/product after receiving payments, how many decades does it take to know for sure they scammed you?

This isn't a community "misunderstanding", nor is it an unfair "guilty until proven innocent" assessment. It's a very natural reaction to a company who has never provided a product people paid for. When they provide it, just as it is in court, the evidence will set them free (for the most part), but until then you seem to be defending something you admit is wrong. Why?

No one is saying they can't make spiffy cases (I love their cases!), but you can't mine bitcoins with fans alone.

to the OP...thats downright AWESOME!

Holy crap dude really? You still think they're *JUST* incompetent?

Please explain to me how there was ever a > 0% chance of any ASIC mining products leaving Butterfly Labs during 2012. Then explain to me how BFL staff could have possibly failed to recognize this fact for months while they continuously told pre-order victims that they'd "scheduled shipments" x number of days or weeks in the future. Then there's the official "honest abe" faq that said they'd ship in October of 2012. ::)

Yep... I've been saying this since December... They knew damn well they wouldn't have products in October/November.

They lied and continue to lie to collect more pre-order monies and deter refunds.

I believe they are getting close now, but I still think they are giving overly optimistic dates like "next week".

Next week... every week.

Ah.. I love being an Avalon customer and not having to worry about BFL's incompetence.

PS: just ignore nathanrees19... he's just a BFL fan boi ;)

Not incompetence. Fraud. That's the point.

No amount of delays turns it into a lie.

Find me internal documentation from BFL showing a projected ship date of 2013 along with "let's lie and say it will be done in 2012" and I'll believe you. Until then, it's a straight-up case of amateurs trying to get into the ASIC business and not having any fucking idea of what they're doing.

You don't understand. The chance can be 0% but if they don't realise that due to incompetence then they're not lying, just stupid.

Hindsight bias is amazing.


How do you know that they knew this when they gave initial estimates? You're implying that they were competent enough to understand all of the challenges.

Ordinarily I'd agree with the sentiment, as my company too was very late producing something (Bitcoin Magazine) and it was a stressful time bringing it to market despite very real unforeseen challanges. However, what you're basically doing is discounting MyBitcoin.com as a "mistake". And Pirateat40 for that matter. Were's the *proof* that they intended to run with the money?

You realise that I'm flat out calling them stupid, right?

I think the chances of you being so stupid that you actually believe what you're saying in this thread is < 0%. Therefore I'm putting you on ignore.

I'm stupid for thinking that BFL is incompetent?

You're stupid for thinking they're only incompetent. They are also deceitful.

I am sure their lawyers will have them use incompetence as a defense. However, their claims of having a prototype when it was clear they did not is misrepresenting the facts. If you take someone's money, promise them goods or services, and lie all at the same time, that is fraud. Since they did it over the internet it is wire fraud.

http://www.federalcrimefaq.com/what-constitutes-the-crime-of-wire-fraud/

All 4 requirements for a fraud conviction are easily provable in BFLs case. BFLs only chance is to ship something fast.

I disagree, at least with this:


When a company spends money on advertisements, (semi-)working hardware, etc, you can easily argue that they were intending to produce. It would be very hard for a judge to rule that BFL was *intending* to defraud people in an industry where legitimate companies fail constantly due to financial restraints and hardware failure.

That said, they'd lose any case in regards to honesty in advertising and could be sued for that alone. In the end, they'd probably lose the same way Bruce Wagner lost for his mortgage venture. Bottom line: Taking insanely large amounts of money and not providing a single product.

No, I just think that their incompetence outweighs their deceitfulness, at least in this case.

For the benefit of others, this was the thought process:

What's the chance that BFL would tell a lie that is guaranteed to be exposed and hurt their business?

What's the chance that BFL's managers are optimistic and unable to understand the challenges of designing ASIC products and their engineers would fail to communicate the proper information to them?

I have a lot of personal experience with the second option, having worked for companies that shipped products more than a year late. In every case the marketing people actually believed what they were publishing and the managers actually believed that the timelines were viable, and the engineers actually were terrible at communication. It's even more likely in BFL's case since they outsourced most of their engineering. Hence, this option seems more likely.

I'm sure creativex applied his feelings and they told him that bfl MUST have been lying from the start. Everyone knows that feels trump facts and rational analysis, and anyone who disagrees with your feelings is stupid.

You're forgetting that bitcoin, the internet, and the communities of con-artists at large are full of sociopaths. Why would they care about getting caught in a lie when they think they're above the truth? Pirate made himself believe everything he said.

The first option has been proven time and time again. Here's just one example for you.


The FCC has no record of any such device. Inaba was flat out lying.

If I say I have something, then I sell it to you and take your money, then I tell you I will give it to you in 2 weeks, then it turns out I never had what I sold you, that is willfully committing fraud. Even saying you have something in stock when you do not is fraud if it is done on purpose and for the intent of taking a customers money who would not otherwise transact with you.

None of this is in conflict with BFL actually trying to ship a product.

What evidence do you have for this?

The FCC can take months to process the paperwork even after a test lab produces a report, and if BFL outsourced the design, the paperwork will not necessarily mention the company or even the product by name. Companies can also pay for confidentiality, which BFL would have done.

<OP snipped>

Still laughing! Excellent humor. Now to post 2.

We need to take this thread's OP and your Box of Fans resistance is futile post and have them make babies together!  ;D

So, Wheres our "Final stage of developement" product?....
You guys told us you had it in 2012, We preordered under the assumption (false pretenses) that you were in the Final Stage of product.
You Blatently Fucking Lied. BFL
I would love to see the "final stage of developement" Since i dont think that will happen untill they decide to Run with everyones money
This is why it is FRAUD, They sold us a product with False Advertising
Heck, they didnt even sell a product, they took our money, gave us a number, and each month they tell us to wait a month!
FRAUDSTERS!

Goes to court. They lose. Ordered to pay a fine. And not allowed to ever run another company in Kansas. But in Missouri, France, Costa Rica, etc., will be fine--without ever having to pay the fine.

WRONG!

Apologies for bumping heads with you, nathan, on this. Will provide proof in a sec, bud.

The second name of Josh is "next week"

Because their lies have damaged the Bitcoin mining market. By promising impossible price, performance, and dates, they tied up millions of dollars worth of capital that should have gone towards good companies that would have created a competitive ASIC and/or FPGA market.

I got quite a chuckle out of this.  ;D

Something I've been wondering, have any of the faithful BFLers in the Kansas City area called up and requested a facility tour?

I don't see why this would be an unreasonable request. Perhaps someone should organize a group. Hell for a respectable amount of BTC  I'd be willing to contact them, and organize something. God knows they could use a nice little PR event right now, with real members of the community, as they've lost so much credibility.  I work for a fortune 20 and have been in front of my CTO and different VPs over time... I do know that after the second time of saying "2 weeks" I'd be out of a job.

Don't get me wrong, for the diversity of bitcoin I really hope they do deliver a product... but my dad always said "you can wish in one hand, and crap in the other... see which one fills up first."

Long live BTC!!!
 

Which is EXACTLY why I think they will ship something.    I also think they will not ship their entire order and will chapter 11.   Too many people have reported them already for them not to keep the dance going.

muhaha... Stockholm syndrome?

I hope they fail

I have been to their old office. I may actually be in the area tomorrow so maybe I'll swing in. I know 1 other miner in town too so I'll text him... although he ordered batch 2 avalon so not sure how much he cares about BFL.

If he ordered an avalon as you said then he REALLY cares about seeing BFL because 100TH that will never come to market would make his avalon worth a lot more wouldnt it?

Here we go! The following is to show that the FCC broadcast up-to-date info regarding all filings on their website.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8635760013_dab5bf1bed_b.jpg

Clicking for details on the first one on the list:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8250/8635769039_d25bdcf5d3.jpg

Then clicking Authorization (Cover Letter)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8635774469_a2c99df753.jpg

As one can clearly see, all is up as of yesterday the 8th for the search term I supplied. By using this form on this URL https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm?calledFromFrame=N anybody can conduct their own search for BF Labs, Butterfly Labs, Butterfly, even just Inc. which I have done and sort via states to narrow your search down. I've done Kansas, Missouri, and Wyoming for the past two years, and didn't find a single listing for BFL.

Now, somebody tell me how them FGPA's got out the door with nary a law being broken.

I challenge anybody here to snap an image of an FCC label/tag on their FPGA miner from BFL and provide the pic for all to see.

OP's pic is worth a thousand words lawsuits

I would be curious to know what you'd see. I wish I could have gotten my hand on an Avalon. Until another "legitimate" organization comes forward or BFL delivers there is only one company, and those fortunate enough to get in on the limited production runs will benefit.

Diversification and decentralization are what make this whole thing beautiful man. I hope BFL management hasn't forgotten that, as the inability to deliver will hurt bitcoin in my opinion.

I was saying the same.. ::)

23 days or less, until butterflylabs to move their initial asic products delivery date to 2013 February.. #bitcoin #bfl http://t.co/bLqwychT
(https://twitter.com/_vjy/status/288480913803837442)

AFAIK they never said they have a working prototype (until recently).

I have asked them a gazillion times during the last 7 month and they (Inaba/Josh) either ignored this questions or weasled its way out.


http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/k9l5-1p-072b.jpg

Hehe, a friend of mine, partner lawyer from nyc, after I talked to him about the whole thingy with the BFL, ordered couple of singles yesterday. He also had a phone call with them and they told him that the units will be at his place in couple of days. He said that if he don't get it as they told him, they're done.

And yet other people who've ordered in the last couple of days have been told their units will be delivered in July.  And BFL_Steven says if they're shipping anything at all within the next week, it will only be developer units.

No doubt BFL will either say your friend misunderstood about the delivery date (the gen 2 units don't even exist yet, so they can't possibly be shipped) or say whoever he spoke to in customer service is new.  The "Single" is a product which can no longer be ordered.

At this point, people really need to start to insist on communicating with executive staff like Jody.  If the GM gives inaccurate information, it's harder for them to blame shift when official inquiries into their operations are made (which now seems inevitable).

Let's also not forget that their incompetence is apparently systemic and extends to their administration as well as the technical side of their operations.

It's not incompetence. It's simply not possible that they believe their own stated timetables at this point.

Order now and receive a product in July? Come on, these people aren't stupid. The only way that will happen is if hundreds of orders are cancelled and the company begins shipping almost immediately. The ironic thing is the cancellations could conceivably cause the company to become insolvent.

They're shipping tomorrow! And they label the box very nice!

http://ow.ly/i/1tV2q

You will get the "o'fans" tags in a separate shipment. Somewhere around august, they are printing now.

This could be fun. Can someone bring the popcorn?

Also, no new pictures from Luke-JR with his product from Butter Full of Lies since the 1 april. Strange isn't?

All I saw was an office basically. They had a room that had a bunch of spare parts and they (one guy) were busy trying to modify the old mini case to fit the new hardware (I don't think they did this). They did have 1 mini-rig which appeared to be mining, but all the employees also had their own singles plugged in to laptops (with those whirligigs on top). It was a shitty building in a not so great part of town that they kind of borrowed from someone's relative (used to be a photography business). All other employees were busy with order tracking and responding to customers... maybe like 6 people in 1 room. I think I met Sonny and he was nice enough to show me the board (no chips obv).

The weird part was the reason I was to begin with was for an interview for a rep position (basically to improve customer relations). Jody was really nice and likable, but didn't really ask me many questions like a normal interviewer would. Instead it seemed as if she was "selling" me on BFL and wanted to know if I'd read things in the forums so she could explain things to me. I didn't take the job as I was only interested in assisting with building the hardware after hours if they needed that. Talking to the other miner I know here in KC (met on localbitcoins) he was in their old office for the same reason (also didn't take the job).

To me it seems they aren't out to scam anyone but just suck at delivering products on time. :)

At this point, I've completely given up on BFL and their shill & shady business practices.  I'm not going to waste my time nor mental strength chasing them around in circles.  I wouldn't be surprised if they started shipping at Q1 of 2014 at the rate they're going.  Regardless, this further proves BFL is just a piss-poor company who are run by monkeys.

Seriously, no need to insult the monkeys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CrUcYVsZ4

how did I miss the OP?

classic

Plain and simple "SUCK IT"

I was trolling you 3 months ago about BFL

Now look at this continued bullshit ....but no you are still there ever obedient lap dog/employee who cares

They are complete and utter liars --How about the Bitcoin Bet with another convicted liar Luke Jr that they shipped a unit on April 1

I know reality is hard to face when u have been living in denial for sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long but come on at least acknowledge they have soooooooooooommmmmmmmmmeeeeeething to answer 

I can't tell if you're just trolling, but I'm going to assume you're not and that you don't already know this.

Pretty much this exact same discussion took place around September 2012.  It culminated in BFL flying first Kano, and then Luke-Jr out to check them out.  I'll let you decide how that turned out.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112543.0

I never did get an answer on why Luke-Jr went instead of Yochdog as was originally planned.

BFL obviously lied from back in September at least.

"final stages of development" does not EQUAL out to 8 months later still no products shipped.

BFL is a full of shit business that operates on lies and shady dealings.

A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

If this guy is real they do not even have a working ASIC that could be used for a product. It seems the ASIC supplier had to fix the design and now they have to create new masks and start the next waver run. Great BFL - another 8-12 weeks until we will see the next prototype!

With this piece of information it's clear why BFL is silent at the moment.

Based on the convo, it sounds like their trying to solder every chip by hand...  Ouch.

Temps with soldering irons affixing chips. Larry David, are you reading this?

I was under the impression that for the first batch the assembly of the boards was being done by an assembly house and that the in-house assembly was just going to be a matter of BFL screwing components into the cases.

Perhaps whatever is actually wrong with the units means this original plan needs to be revised.

Has there been any word whatsoever on when the next 6 wafers will be ready or when the bulk order will be finished.  These were each supposed to be completed only weeks after the Batch 1 chips were bumped and packaged.  The Batch 1 chips obviously aren't going to fill very many orders given the power problems and the need to ship multiple units to meet advertised hash rates, so when in the hell can those who pre-ordered between August and January expect delivery?

BFL answer: End of April.

My opinion: Not before the next waver run creates a fixed and working ASIC. Minimum 12 weeks, propably longer.

End of April seems to be their best case scenario date for shipping the first units to people other than developers.  I've seen nothing which indicates that the second batch of wafers have even been completed yet, let alone bumped and packaged.  I've definitely seen nothing which indicates that the fab is currently working on the bulk order for 63,000 chips - which I suspect are going to be needed to fill the majority of gen 1 pre-orders.

I assume that they stopped the wafer production and maybe start again when the prototypes are working and fix the power consumption problems. I think, at the moment they have no ASIC that can be used to build a product.

I actually know this guy (used to work with him) and talked to him on Skype last night. Everything he saw coincides with what they've said. They had 1 unit hashing with some people working on it, and basically nothing else. If they are waiting on new boards with new power regulators then of course they wouldn't be doing anything besides software tweaks.

Which makes on think: What did they do the last 9 month (besides waiting and playing Minecraft)?

...also telling new potential investors that you will ship an ASIC mining product ordered today in July is simply fraudulent. This will not happen unless hundreds of orders that came before are cancelled. They've been constantly lying about delivery dates this way for nearly a year now.

You guys are just jelly that BFL has more fans (http://i45.tinypic.com/o10irs.jpg) than haters.

Yeah. Boxes of fans. Maybe than can reuse the fans in their singles when they receive the new ASICs where the power problems are fixed.

Man, it sure would have been cool to sell those BFL mined coins at $250 a piece, wouldn't it.

Oh well, i guess $12 a piece is still cool.

$12 x 0 = $250 x 0

Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link.

It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week".

http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNW

Color me shocked.

I'd hardly say that qualifies as a transcript.

On that note, what the hell is BFL even doing?

What any red blooded group of males does with millions of dollars of other people's money and nothing else to do. Hookers, whiskey, and blackjack.

Ready for some more color? There is no 1164 SW Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. In fact, there is no street at all named Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. But there is such a place in Shawnee, KS, just outside Kansas City. My guess is that in the backyard one would find chickens.

Google sure seems to think your wrong: https://maps.google.com/maps?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=1164+SW+Hillsdale+St+Topeka,+KS+66604%3F&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x87bf0282a350ae01:0x247d5324ead23e3c,1164+SW+Hillsdale+St,+Topeka,+KS+66604&gl=us&ei=L19nUa2TOenuyQGv2oDYDg&ved=0CDMQ8gEwAA

Google is fucking with me! I clearly saw Swanee and then asked for directions to Topeka KS of which the results were ~60 miles. Top box was only Topeka, KS, with the generated box below it beling the Swanee, KS complete address. I wasn't trying to spread fud here.

At any rate, it's only 4 blocks west of SW Gage Blvd.

Please surrender your Jr. Detective badge and water pistol sir... :)

But, Andy...

You know more than 3/4ths of the board won't know the reference.

They will now! It even has a goat in the image.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Andy_Griffith_Don_Knotts_Andy_Griffith_Show_1963.JPG/170px-Andy_Griffith_Don_Knotts_Andy_Griffith_Show_1963.JPG

You guys just dated yourselves.  :P

I had no clue what ya'll were talking about.  ;D

Had to, I couldn't find anyone else to put out on a first.

You need to remember that most of these guys never had to actually get up off the couch and turn the knob on the TV and probably do not believe that anyone would buy a TV when there are only 11 channels.

You got ELEVEN channels back in the day?!? ???

I had like four or five *IF* I wrapped enough aluminum foil around the rabbit ears and *IF* I stood in a certain spot in the room without moving.

19" B&W.  Watched the 5PM godzilla movies on channel 7 out of detroit. 

No one truly appreciates the internet until they've had a childhood like this.

Yeah I'm still trying to get my dad to toss the Sony 13" (I think it may be B&W).  The feature on that TV was it had push buttons so you could pre-program the tuning of the station.  That thing is older than me  :P

Late 70's it was still 2-5-7-9-11-22-32 in Chicago. I'm going to do the following from memory in the same order: CBS-NBC-ABC-WGN-PBS-WBEZ-WFLD. The western reruns we on the weekend mornings.

Yo folks, this is cool and all, but can we get back to bashing BFL please?

Why would we want to do that?!?

Look at this awesome video! These guys are obviously highly trained professionals that ship thousands of mining units a month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM

Luke-Jr told me on IRC last night that since BFL offered to ship him the unit, but kindly agreed to keep it in their warehouse until he wants it, that the unit was technically "shipped". An interesting perspective.  ::)

Edit: I brought this up in more detail in Luke-Jr's thread, he then locked it.  ::)

Notice that the eBay props are located at the entrance. Shouldn't production be in the rear? The last time I saw a company showcasing their production in the open was Krispy Kreme between Excalibur and Luxor in Vegas.

At the beginning of the clip, the female narrator states verbatim text from BFL's site:


Can somebody point out to me any frame in that video showcasing anything other than bitcoin miners?

Moreover, you telling me that not a single client of theirs who has ordered research, telecommunication or security application products has one iota problem with their delivery schedule?

I sell barn wood. I can, and have, produced primitive reproductions for the Nashville and Atlanta markets. I can easily produce a limited line of primitive furniture. I can extend that line to include industrial-based barn wood furniture, currently in vogue, but would need to revamp my current facility to do such, let alone producing something I only have vague knowledge of, yet doable. Perhaps, I should just go ahead and do it under the guise of saving the environment, saying the hell with profit.

There is not a Goddamn thing wrong with BFL making a profit with the work they supposedly do. They can rake in the cash, for all I care. But to say at the onset, which they did, that profit is secondary, with security the network being paramount, is disingenuous at best, lying at worse.

Every company is allowed missteps. But, when missteps are publicly seen week after week after week after week (etc.), at some point a breaking point is reached, resulting in legit questions seeking answers.

The video does address many concerns, and sadly raises others. Honestly, I can't see how BFL could be a scam when they clearly are putting in mega man hours, and having mega stock on-hand. The only other answer if this is not a legit entity is that it's a long con.

Thanks for the video, BFL. Please understand where all the naysayers are coming from as hopefully you produce product you claim to be producing.

One more thing, for a 62 year old woman, Jody looks pretty good. Too bad she's probably... (a deal breaker on her part, not mine). (This sentence was meant as a complement, albeit the snide remark which may, or may not, have been appropriate, but it is as it is.)

Now, back to the video to see if there's anything I may have missed prior to somebody else bringing it to attention.

PoSt!

LOL! I just realized something while taking a shit after viewing the video. How the heck do they not know what the right hand is doing when they are setting at the same desks, with the principles being only a stone pebble throw away?

I'm still not seeing where they hid the 22 employees they had at the old facility, now at their new location. Even with the newly hired Hispanic temps, one would be hard-pressed to count to 22. Must be something special about that number, for even Mt Gox uses it.

Yep, it's special! I just counted all my barn wood suppliers and amazingly it came to 22. One more supplier, and I'll be a victum of my own success.

You do realize that a person at the front entrance can call out to the back warehouse inquiring how many boxes are on a certain shelf without having to raise his or her voice, don't you?

22 is the number of units they will have shipped in 6 months time.

22 refers to the number of wafers they will burn through testing.

No, it refers to the number of GH/s the single SC gets, and the number of watts of power the jalapeno uses.

Omg, guys c'mon, 22 is the number of hours they dont work in a day, GET IT RIGHT.
It takes them this damn long to make a company video and yet and we dont even have a chart of thier products showing
"here are the benchmark charts of each units power consumption, hashrate, heat, fanspeed"

FTFY! I enlarged the chart below for those with poor eyesight.

Another thing to note is that up until 22nd January 2013 they show their old FPGA miners in the ASIC ads.

Starting 22nd January 2013 they show their actual ASIC products (or renders, who knows). Or at least the cases (with nothing in it).

Which leads to the conclusion that up until end of January 2013 they had nothing at all.

"Honest abe" shipment in October 2012? What a joke ...

It happened over and over again. BFL must have been fully aware that they could not deliver on time every time they made these promises.

They never gave information beforehand that they may not make the date(s) while they missed every single one of them, and counting. You cannot say that you can deliver in october when in reality you will need several months and multiple development stages to get the product out. That is an outright lie.
BFL always chose to communicate the most optimistic projection as the most probable outcome. It is outright lying about the real situation.
They acted fully irresponsible in their coimmunication to their customers and often informed them after the fact that they did not ship because they overlooked some part of the process.
BFL could have never made any realistic projections of delivery simply because they are (willingly or unwillingly) not in control of the process and all promises untill now have turned out to be false. All specs are significantly reduced, the units use more power AND they still haven't delivered.

Bunch of fucking liars, that's all there is to it.

And the recent silence tells me that they have some huge unresolvable problems that they don't want to talk about just yet.