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Title: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: paramind22 on December 28, 2016, 03:30:34 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: KitcatCat on December 28, 2016, 03:31:33 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? no one does. The buying you see is just the developer and some whales buying their own coins. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: michellee on December 28, 2016, 05:15:02 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? its a lot of amount for giveaways and i wonder how long this coins will be survive in the market? because i am not sure about gulden and better to stick with the exist coins rather than to buy the new coins which is not sure for the future, but its only my opinion and i am sorry if many people don't agree with me. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: paramind22 on December 28, 2016, 05:19:25 AM If it is worth 2 cents US then to buy a music CD is maybe 500 gulden, then that 500 gulden buys something at a certain amount of stores. I am surprised one Gulden got to 2 cents, that's pretty good.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Herbert2020 on December 28, 2016, 06:32:54 AM nobody buys any item, goods or whatever you guys call it with Gulden or any other altcoin for that matter. in fact the number of people using bitcoin to buy all these things is not even that high, now you are expecting people to use an altcoin with a much smaller community to purchase real things?
If it is worth 2 cents US then to buy a music CD is maybe 500 gulden, then that 500 gulden buys something at a certain amount of stores. I am surprised one Gulden got to 2 cents, that's pretty good. besides what is the point of this? lets say your music CD is worth $10 people are buying them with USD through paypal,... and if they are bitcoin fans they will use bitcoin for cheaper fees. what would they gain if they use Gunden? will $10 music CD be worth $6-$5 with a nice discount? obviously not the case! Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on December 28, 2016, 06:56:24 AM @Herbert2020
You are correct sir. And i may be able to retire in 2017 (i wanted to in 2016) I can if we have more users posting comments like yours. ;) @OP $$$ ..that is your answer. People would trade "Smack an old lady in the head with a bat coin" if it padded their wallets with luscious sweet ROI'z. Do something bad then have users co-opted into supporting it for a slice of the pie. Then they will play dumb or lie their ass off to defend it.. to keep that pie coming. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: TamiLee on December 28, 2016, 07:52:48 AM I can tell no one replying here has downloaded the wallets and used them or this waste of space on btctalk servers would not exist.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Litesire on December 28, 2016, 08:08:52 AM @Herbert2020 You are correct sir. And i may be able to retire in 2017 (i wanted to in 2016) I can if we have more users posting comments like yours. ;) @OP $$$ ..that is your answer. People would trade "Smack an old lady in the head with a bat coin" if it padded their wallets with luscious sweet ROI'z. Do something bad then have users co-opted into supporting it for a slice of the pie. Then they will play dumb or lie their ass off to defend it.. to keep that pie coming. Come on Spoetnik if you can't see the quality difference between Gulden and other coins then your posts can't be taken seriously. I am ready to debate you on Gulden vs the rest. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: cryptohunter on December 28, 2016, 11:22:20 AM Not looked at it really.
Is there a full ledger for the premine detailing all expenditure ? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: paramind22 on December 28, 2016, 03:15:43 PM It's a good coin to mine with scrypt miners too. I tried mining GAME and wasn't getting very much. Mining Gulden is quicker.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on December 28, 2016, 04:07:53 PM Not looked at it really. Is there a full ledger for the premine detailing all expenditure ? THIS. And even worse is a ledger can be forged to fuck & back. So it says a lot that a lazy ass premining cunt can't even take the time to write one up. And debate ? What now ? LOL Go ahead.. let me know how that works out for you. Notice the charts on ETH and BTC lately ? :D You REALLY wanna step into the ring with my FUD kid ? I will take your $1,200 market-cap down to $20 toot-sweet son ! :D Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: maku on December 28, 2016, 04:26:17 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation.
And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Not looked at it really. Is there a full ledger for the premine detailing all expenditure ? THIS. And even worse is a ledger can be forged to fuck & back. So it says a lot that a lazy ass premining cunt can't even take the time to write one up. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: DashNLG on December 28, 2016, 04:45:26 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation. And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on December 28, 2016, 04:55:47 PM Dev's have before paid themselves.
All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work. Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: TamiLee on December 28, 2016, 05:35:29 PM Dev's have before paid themselves. All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work. Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots. Posting in the wrong topic? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: AmsterdamPimp on December 28, 2016, 05:36:31 PM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? no one does. The buying you see is just the developer and some whales buying their own coins. Don't lie to him. Nobody does that anymore. That is so 2013. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Glen Hoddle on December 28, 2016, 06:55:11 PM Dev's have before paid themselves. All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work. Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots. I like you mate I really do. Please do more research on Gulden before you jump the shark here. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: cryptohunter on December 28, 2016, 11:04:20 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation. And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. Rule 1 about crypto.... never talk about supporting dash when wanting people to take you seriously. Dash is a KNOWN and proven captive instamine scam coin. I have not looked into gulden at all. However any premine should have a ledger that is verifiable and public. All premines should always be held in multisig accounts and released for milestones reached anyway. Or any other way that would prevent a mass dumping at anytime. Only a crypto expert can look at work done and put an approx value on it everyone else is just guessing. GLD could be a great project or could end up a scam when the dev controls such vast amounts of a currency it is always vulnerable. Time will tell. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: cryptohunter on December 28, 2016, 11:33:23 PM How about waves premine? Same rules should apply to all premines.. Must be measures to stop mass dumping and self profiteering abuse. Sure devs should make a profit but not screw over investors Sure some devs could have no measures in place and still be honest and upstanding ensuring enough goes to development of the coin with a reasonable reward for their work. That does not alter the fact there should be measures in place to ensure they do so. Boycott all projects in future that do not and you will see an end of scams or huge reduction in them Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2016, 01:11:29 AM Dev's have before paid themselves. All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work. Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots. I like you mate I really do. Please do more research on Gulden before you jump the shark here. Are you accusing me of being "The Fonz" (from Happy Days) :D No problem.. i will take it LOL But hey i am talking about accountability. Not whether the coin is scammy etc. I am suggesting though when a dev behind a coin omits any type of ledger. (at least a ledger if not more) Yes it then is in fact highly sketchy and pretty much always scammy. This is not up for debate noob accounts. You can try but you are wasting your time. Those of us here not bullshiting will see and ALREADY know the truth. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: paramind22 on December 29, 2016, 01:24:34 AM My tone is just general information seeking. I wasn't being sarcastic in it. I would like Gulden to succeed, even more, I would like to get some o that premine ;D
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Glen Hoddle on December 29, 2016, 10:25:56 AM Dev's have before paid themselves. All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work. Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots. I like you mate I really do. Please do more research on Gulden before you jump the shark here. Are you accusing me of being "The Fonz" (from Happy Days) :D No problem.. i will take it LOL But hey i am talking about accountability. Not whether the coin is scammy etc. I am suggesting though when a dev behind a coin omits any type of ledger. (at least a ledger if not more) Yes it then is in fact highly sketchy and pretty much always scammy. This is not up for debate noob accounts. You can try but you are wasting your time. Those of us here not bullshiting will see and ALREADY know the truth. You're way cooler than the Fonz mate. He was a middle aged mechanic who hung around with teenagers. Anyway, all the information regarding the Gulden premine is out there and all coins so far used for development have been accounted for. The Gulden devs are not trying to hide anything and are always available to answer questions. The questions relating to the premine have been answered a gazillion times before though so it must get annoying for them to have to keep justifying themselves. Gulden is the most innovative alt out there. This is a fact and can't be denied, and with 600 BTC in the pot for future development things are going to get even better. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: jwinterm on December 29, 2016, 12:36:35 PM The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368 Quote After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens. To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system. We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy. We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014. Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Brito on December 29, 2016, 01:07:57 PM The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368 Quote After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens. To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system. We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy. We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014. Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie. Are you having a laugh m8? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: secretservice on December 29, 2016, 01:14:40 PM I don't think people are using it to buy things. The market seems to be driven by hype and speculation. I also do not see the improvements that the currency brings with regard to Bitcoin, but I would be happy if anyone could clarify.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on December 29, 2016, 03:23:02 PM The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368 Quote After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens. To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system. We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy. We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014. Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie. Yo, wazzup... this is what the the Gulden devs think about your posts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OtqfFLAPw Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Warkop on December 29, 2016, 04:03:04 PM I can tell no one replying here has downloaded the wallets and used them or this waste of space on btctalk servers would not exist. maybe it's there, but only those people who like him who would do her. :DTitle: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: DGBforver on December 29, 2016, 04:36:46 PM The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368 Quote After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens. To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system. We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy. We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014. Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie. I can't find this link they talking about, on desktop i need to scan a qr with my iphone wallet but does not work. Is this a gimmick or did I miss something? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: TamiLee on December 29, 2016, 04:53:11 PM The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368 Quote After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens. To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system. We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy. We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014. Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie. I can't find this link they talking about, on desktop i need to scan a qr with my iphone wallet but does not work. Is this a gimmick or did I miss something? The link feature is amazing but only works between Desktop and Android , it's meant to be added to IOS soon. It basically links your wallets together without any centralization. First for crypto. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: KitcatCat on December 31, 2016, 07:51:13 AM So who is holding the very large premine?
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: KitcatCat on December 31, 2016, 09:31:38 AM So who is holding the very large premine? Batman. Seriously dude. Is it the dev, the dev team, an escrow.... Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on December 31, 2016, 08:34:02 PM So who is holding the very large premine? Batman. Seriously dude. Is it the dev, the dev team, an escrow.... Technically speaking its Robin who holds the premine but he has butter fingers and sometimes some of it slips onto the exchanges. It's all being put to good use to fight crime in Gotham. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on January 01, 2017, 03:18:30 AM @Glen Hoddle
You know The Fonz started that saying right ? Because he jumped a shark :D And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here. Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability. I promise i won't do it again ;D 8) Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Hueristic on January 01, 2017, 03:35:30 AM ..., c'est la vie. You mean "dat is het leven" ? :P Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 01, 2017, 05:35:57 AM @Glen Hoddle You know The Fonz started that saying right ? Because he jumped a shark :D And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here. Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability. I promise i won't do it again ;D 8) Keep it coming brother, the devs need a stamp of approval from the bitcointalk community. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on January 01, 2017, 10:26:13 AM @Glen Hoddle You know The Fonz started that saying right ? Because he jumped a shark :D And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here. Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability. I promise i won't do it again ;D 8) Keep it coming brother, the devs need a stamp of approval from the bitcointalk community. You have 3 posts here LOL What other forum would a Legendary account listen to a shithead with 3 posts ? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 12:12:23 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation. And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. Rule 1 about crypto.... never talk about supporting dash when wanting people to take you seriously. Dash is a KNOWN and proven captive instamine scam coin. Rule number 1 : never listen or take advice from trolls like cryptohunter .. period. Now i'm Dutch myself but i choose to support Dash as it has the potential to make it into global digital cash and i am certainly not the only Dutchman who is supporting Dash : https://i.imgur.com/9kga2vR.png Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 12:33:33 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation. And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. Rule 1 about crypto.... never talk about supporting dash when wanting people to take you seriously. Dash is a KNOWN and proven captive instamine scam coin. Rule number 1 : never listen or take advice from trolls like cryptohunter .. period. Now i'm Dutch myself but i choose to support Dash as it has the potential to make it into global digital cash and i am certainly not the only Dutchman who is supporting Dash : https://i.imgur.com/9kga2vR.png You certainly talk double dutch Why not turn this thread into dash spam too. You are out of control. It has nothing to do with dash does it? Dash is a scam research on this board you will find the truth. Qwizzie is a known spammer and scam promoter. You will see others stating the same regarding this spam/scam artist. I mean just search darkcoin on this board dont even add the word scam but Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on January 01, 2017, 01:08:45 PM You have 3 posts here LOL What other forum would a Legendary account listen to a shithead with 3 posts ? OMG he made a lot of posts, quick everyone give him a medal! On what other forum do losers think people will respect them just for making lots of posts ;) Go out and live a little. Play dumb.. you all know that shit would not fly ANYWHERE else on the web. Why would a grown man listen to a lecture from a 2yr old ? Common sense people not games.. And want to discuss the topic ? Fine.. let's do it ! You greedy morons want profit. So you all started this ICO bullshit.. started by calling them IPO's. Which they are essentially 100% premines. But you all sit there and play dumb about it then try and warp it all. Why would idiots chanting Free Market, Decentralization, No regulations etc support this ? G R E E D You are all full of fucking shit 101% I have never owned an ICO / IPO coin nor would i. I do not support the principle and concept / functional operation of them. So why would i own any or trade them on Poloniex for ROI's ? ICO = Premine ..the worst fucking kind. ICO = SCAM. Bullshit pumped out for ROI'z ::) You guys are not "entitled" to fuck all. Can't afford to launch a currency then don't do it.. Don't like my comment ? Go create yet another new account here about it idiots. And by the way.. My original points stands still not just because Noobs would not be tolerated elsewhere.. But because of the context of the situation here you all play stupid about non stop. Which is all you guys do.. play stupid.. for bucks $$$ Reality Check douche nozzles.. there is almost 1 god damn million accounts here and a few hundred logged in daily. So what in the flying fuck does that tell us idiots ? 1,000,000 User accounts 300 Active accounts :D Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Glen Hoddle on January 01, 2017, 01:20:42 PM @Glen Hoddle You know The Fonz started that saying right ? Because he jumped a shark :D And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here. Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability. I promise i won't do it again ;D 8) I know, I tried to post a gif of it but it wouldn't let me ;D Anyway in conclusion, I always enjoy your rants about scams and stuff and you've been an endless source of entertainment over the years. You've also helped make me some btc too with your insight. Gulden is not a scam and deserves a hell of a lot more respect amongst the crypto community than it gets on this forum. I would have been disappointed if you'd have started hating on it. I encourage you to look into Gulden more. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Febo on January 01, 2017, 01:23:01 PM We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation. And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that. Coinmarketcap says : Available Supply 337,487,745 NLG Total Supply 439,507,900 NLG So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine. If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion. They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017. lol you have cute name. KingOfPremine Now i'm Dutch myself but i choose to support Dash as it has the potential to make it into global digital cash and i am certainly not the only Dutchman who is supporting Dash : I think you guys should merge your coins somehow. Or even better make a new Scam together. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 01, 2017, 05:44:43 PM I don't understand why these Devs didn't go anonymous and Dump all the premine and start a new coin. They could of made a lot more money. Poor scamming skills on their part.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Spoetnik on January 01, 2017, 08:36:40 PM I don't want to harp on this.. it won't do any good anyway.
All i can think here is if there is a large premine ? It WILL catch up with you and bite you in the ass. People will forever dredge it up and rail on about it again and again for years to come. The sensible thing for the guys behind the coin to do would be.. Start working on that "Ledger" ASAP ! And keep it real ! People can tolerate a whole lot of bad if it is delivered honestly. Vs people scheming to hide things and BS etc. So.. If the dev took a chunk of the premine and spent it on coke & hookers ? Admit it ! Come clean and then from that point on be honest. The worst thing any dev can do in crypto is drag shit on for years playing games lying and making poor excuses for blatant behavior. That applies obviously to any coin project. I am not really for or against this coin in question. Just trying to offer some insight and advice to PREVENT drama. I am not posting this to START drama.. Good luck guys (which ever side your on in the battle) :D Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: rokkyroad on January 01, 2017, 09:26:34 PM I don't want to harp on this.. it won't do any good anyway. All i can think here is if there is a large premine ? It WILL catch up with you and bite you in the ass. People will forever dredge it up and rail on about it again and again for years to come. The sensible thing for the guys behind the coin to do would be.. Start working on that "Ledger" ASAP ! And keep it real ! People can tolerate a whole lot of bad if it is delivered honestly. Vs people scheming to hide things and BS etc. So.. If the dev took a chunk of the premine and spent it on coke & hookers ? Admit it ! Come clean and then from that point on be honest. The worst thing any dev can do in crypto is drag shit on for years playing games lying and making poor excuses for blatant behavior. That applies obviously to any coin project. I am not really for or against this coin in question. Just trying to offer some insight and advice to PREVENT drama. I am not posting this to START drama.. Good luck guys (which ever side your on in the battle) :D Good luck trying to get thieves to own up to their thievery. They can color it anyway they want ... premine ... ico ... its outright thievery yet they still manage to pull in the suckers. A lot could change if people would guit buying into this shit and boycott the scammy past, present, and future scammers. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 01, 2017, 10:10:04 PM I don't want to harp on this.. it won't do any good anyway. All i can think here is if there is a large premine ? It WILL catch up with you and bite you in the ass. People will forever dredge it up and rail on about it again and again for years to come. The sensible thing for the guys behind the coin to do would be.. Start working on that "Ledger" ASAP ! And keep it real ! People can tolerate a whole lot of bad if it is delivered honestly. Vs people scheming to hide things and BS etc. So.. If the dev took a chunk of the premine and spent it on coke & hookers ? Admit it ! Come clean and then from that point on be honest. The worst thing any dev can do in crypto is drag shit on for years playing games lying and making poor excuses for blatant behavior. That applies obviously to any coin project. I am not really for or against this coin in question. Just trying to offer some insight and advice to PREVENT drama. I am not posting this to START drama.. Good luck guys (which ever side your on in the battle) :D Good luck trying to get thieves to own up to their thievery. They can color it anyway they want ... premine ... ico ... its outright thievery yet they still manage to pull in the suckers. A lot could change if people would guit buying into this shit and boycott the scammy past, present, and future scammers. Was this thread created to warn scammers not to buy in? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: paramind22 on January 01, 2017, 10:26:01 PM I don't want to harp on this.. it won't do any good anyway. All i can think here is if there is a large premine ? It WILL catch up with you and bite you in the ass. People will forever dredge it up and rail on about it again and again for years to come. The sensible thing for the guys behind the coin to do would be.. Start working on that "Ledger" ASAP ! And keep it real ! People can tolerate a whole lot of bad if it is delivered honestly. Vs people scheming to hide things and BS etc. So.. If the dev took a chunk of the premine and spent it on coke & hookers ? Admit it ! Come clean and then from that point on be honest. The worst thing any dev can do in crypto is drag shit on for years playing games lying and making poor excuses for blatant behavior. That applies obviously to any coin project. I am not really for or against this coin in question. Just trying to offer some insight and advice to PREVENT drama. I am not posting this to START drama.. Good luck guys (which ever side your on in the battle) :D Good luck trying to get thieves to own up to their thievery. They can color it anyway they want ... premine ... ico ... its outright thievery yet they still manage to pull in the suckers. A lot could change if people would guit buying into this shit and boycott the scammy past, present, and future scammers. Was this thread created to warn scammers not to buy in? No, if you read my posts, I am not against Gulden, nor is "how do" in the title meant to be sound like it was all preposterous. I am interested in the idea of value creation, which seems like quite a real thing to me. If you just read what I wrote it should be more clear. I wrote these about 8 years ago but you can see the same line of thought: 11) Many new jobs only need be responsible for creating value, because a system of barter has already worked in many economies. Think of senior homes/low income home improvements. Seniors could help with baby sitting as younger parents could help with home repair. 14) We should be focusing on "creating value" not only "earning money." For example, imagine digging up some of one's lawn area and preparing the area for a nut and fruit tree orchards and other gardening area. This will create a substantial amount of "wealth" each year for one's household without having to bring in more money to buy things. There are many such improvements one can make and even invent for other people. There are low income but ready now electric car conversions that people have done for virtually every make of car. from http://www.paramind.net/new_education_new_economy.html I think it's great how people can create a currency based on group involvement and hard work and have it be worth something for people that aren't getting ahead in the current economic climate. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 02, 2017, 05:30:43 AM I don't want to harp on this.. it won't do any good anyway. All i can think here is if there is a large premine ? It WILL catch up with you and bite you in the ass. People will forever dredge it up and rail on about it again and again for years to come. The sensible thing for the guys behind the coin to do would be.. Start working on that "Ledger" ASAP ! And keep it real ! People can tolerate a whole lot of bad if it is delivered honestly. Vs people scheming to hide things and BS etc. So.. If the dev took a chunk of the premine and spent it on coke & hookers ? Admit it ! Come clean and then from that point on be honest. The worst thing any dev can do in crypto is drag shit on for years playing games lying and making poor excuses for blatant behavior. That applies obviously to any coin project. I am not really for or against this coin in question. Just trying to offer some insight and advice to PREVENT drama. I am not posting this to START drama.. Good luck guys (which ever side your on in the battle) :D Good luck trying to get thieves to own up to their thievery. They can color it anyway they want ... premine ... ico ... its outright thievery yet they still manage to pull in the suckers. A lot could change if people would guit buying into this shit and boycott the scammy past, present, and future scammers. Was this thread created to warn scammers not to buy in? No, if you read my posts, I am not against Gulden, nor is "how do" in the title meant to be sound like it was all preposterous. I am interested in the idea of value creation, which seems like quite a real thing to me. If you just read what I wrote it should be more clear. I wrote these about 8 years ago but you can see the same line of thought: 11) Many new jobs only need be responsible for creating value, because a system of barter has already worked in many economies. Think of senior homes/low income home improvements. Seniors could help with baby sitting as younger parents could help with home repair. 14) We should be focusing on "creating value" not only "earning money." For example, imagine digging up some of one's lawn area and preparing the area for a nut and fruit tree orchards and other gardening area. This will create a substantial amount of "wealth" each year for one's household without having to bring in more money to buy things. There are many such improvements one can make and even invent for other people. There are low income but ready now electric car conversions that people have done for virtually every make of car. from http://www.paramind.net/new_education_new_economy.html I think it's great how people can create a currency based on group involvement and hard work and have it be worth something for people that aren't getting ahead in the current economic climate. Fair enough, however it evolved into a thread where scammers , con artists, pump and dump groups and photoshop specialists are warning the others of the same ilk not to invest in Gulden. How lucky can one coin get? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: densuj on January 02, 2017, 05:40:55 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? Gulden is new coin and be not known by the people, it is can become shitcoin sometime, if you want buy things using digital coins, always use bitcoin for doing it. Buy things use gulden coin is just aim of developers, it is just strategy for taking investors. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 02, 2017, 06:08:22 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? Gulden is new coin and be not known by the people, it is can become shitcoin sometime, if you want buy things using digital coins, always use bitcoin for doing it. Buy things use gulden coin is just aim of developers, it is just strategy for taking investors. The problem with the Gulden devs is they out developing all the other coins, these scammers have some serious skillz in their arsenal. All the below done in 4 months, imagine what these scammers have planned for 2017. It's really destroying the other scam coins, they must be super jealous. Next Generation QT wallets Much improved UX and new interface Our new core wallets have undergone a major facelift with practicality in mind. The beautiful user friendly design gives a familiar feel with our mobile wallets but with a lot more features and control you would expect from the core desktop wallets. The new wallets will be the base we build up from as we implement new and exciting features as discussed below. New HD Link feature The main feature update for this release is our own Hierarchical deterministic implementation between our new core QT desktop wallets and both our mobile wallets (iOS Soon). To put this in layman’s terms you can now share your Gulden addresses between your Desktop and Mobile wallets. This gives users peace of mind if they lose their iOS or Android phones, users will still have access to their funds on the desktop wallet. HD wallets also means less frequent backups required. Become your own central bank for you and your family by having centralized control over your decentralized Gulden wallets. A use case example for the new Link feature: You are married with kids, you can create a mobile account for each one of your family members and link it to your Gulden for desktop wallet. You have complete control of all linked accounts on your Desktop wallet. In the event that one of your children loses their phone, you’ll be able to withdraw all funds from that account. Or say if your spouse is out shopping and needs more Gulden, you’re able to transfer funds from another account/s to their account. In both cases, fund are transferred almost instantly. Accounts and Privacy Gulden for Desktop now uses accounts which you can add to serve different purposes. We have 2 different account creation types. * Normal Accounts * Mobile Accounts – which enables the link feature between your desktop and mobile device. The additional privacy comes in for both deposits and withdrawals. * Gulden deposits: Gulden for desktop wallets will use a different Gulden address each time you receive Gulden, this way the depositors will have no way of knowing who else is sending you Gulden to your wallet. Note: A depositor can continue to use the address you gave them for multiple deposits. * Gulden withdrawals: With accounts you can separate your payments depending on it’s intended use without the recipients of your Gulden knowing what other transactions your doing from within your wallet. eg. You can have 1 account for family transactions and another for business transactions. HD desktop wallet with mnemonic (recovery phrase) support Fully backwards compatible with recovery phrases from older Android and iOS wallets. Gulden and bitcoin payments added to desktop wallets Like our Gulden for iOS and Gulden for Android wallets you can now pay at all Gulden and Bitcoin merchants with the desktop wallets. In App purchasing added for iDeal and Bancontact users for Desktop and Android wallets Users in the Netherlands and Belgium will be able to make in app purchases for amounts of 50 Euros or less within Gulden for Desktop and Android wallets. For larger purchases you will need to visit Nocks.co . More purchase options to be introduced in the future. Wire transfers added to desktop wallets Like our Gulden for iOS and Gulden for Android wallets you can now do wire transfers to IBAN bank accounts. DELTA Our DELTA diff algorithm underwent some improvements to smooth out blocktimes, since the inception of DELTA we have been monitoring the behaviour of the Gulden blockchain with regards to block times and the changes will bring increased network performance going forward. DELTA switch over will be at block 437500 Additional currency support added to Gulden for iOS and Gulden for Desktop. This brings Gulden for iOS and Desktop inline with the same supported currencies as Gulden for Android. Gulden updated to 0.13 Codebase from previously updated 0.11 Codebase Codebase 0.13 brings thousands of bug fixes, performance enhancements and important new functionality for vendors (such as ZMQ). SCAMMERS GONNA NEED TO UPDATE THEIR GAME BIGTIME to keep up with Gulden. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Amoson on January 02, 2017, 06:12:46 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? There are so many pre-mined coins for giveaways. what about the inflation? who is buying a huge amount of Gulden. I'm cared of this project. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: RodgerRabbit on January 02, 2017, 06:49:02 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? There are so many pre-mined coins for giveaways. what about the inflation? who is buying a huge amount of Gulden. I'm cared of this project. Gulden has 2000 users on slack and many more users not on slack. The devs are answering questions from the community all the time and communicating daily. What you see on this forum is a joke, when you on slack the legitimacy of this project is realised quickly after people join from this forum. Majority of the users are new users to crypto who don't know bitcointalk exists. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Litesire on January 02, 2017, 07:42:15 AM What was not hyped by the devs is that they were also the first to successfully update to 0.13 codebase besides everything else that was done in 1.6.0 , meanwhile the $225 million marketcap coin called litecoin is still farting around ONLY trying to do a 0.13 codebase update in 5 months.
Ask yourselves which coin is better value? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Glen Hoddle on January 02, 2017, 08:50:34 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? Gulden is new coin and be not known by the people, it is can become shitcoin sometime, if you want buy things using digital coins, always use bitcoin for doing it. Buy things use gulden coin is just aim of developers, it is just strategy for taking investors. I'm not going to give a detailed answer to this stupid comment because it doesn't warrant it. There are loads of stores online and offline that accept Gulden and you can use Gulden to pay at any bitcoin merchant. Gulden is not a new coin. It's almost three years old. Seriously, you are one of the dumbest people I have ever encountered on these forums and that's saying something. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: CoinTracks on January 02, 2017, 11:22:38 PM Dev's are best scammer in the world! They feed African nerd some BTC and make you think they doing all work. Same time they rob 1000 BTC from community with premine and tell it is need for development. Apple kicked them out of store cause not trust! Gulden investors are idiots! Lame sheep, following dream that is nightmare! Dump while still above 100sat! Tank me later!
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: jwinterm on January 03, 2017, 05:31:09 AM Can anyone explain when and why NLG decided to cancel the airdrop and use the 10% premine as dev slushfund? I got into it a bit with their (only?) developer here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495990.msg17234710#msg17234710 because he called digibyte a scam, and I pointed out that NLG has a much larger premine. After calling me a troll, his response included this: ... You are obviously a troll with an agenda, and really I don't need to justify myself to you... Why is Gulden not a scam? Well quite simple Gulden does not go around making claims that are not true, we do not intentionally try to deceive anyone, we do not make promises we cannot deliver on, we spend large amounts of time actually maintaining our products all of which are regularly updated. We put out new releases at regular intervals, each one improving on the previous one. We do not put out features that we know can't work just because we want to create hype. We do not do anything dishonest or fraudulent. ... What exactly is a 10% premine that is currently (several years after launch) around 40% of available supply that was supposed to be distributed to the Dutch citizenry and is now just for whatever Gulden devs feel like if not a claim that wasn't true, a promise that wasn't delivered on, something dishonest if not fraudulent. Honestly, I don't really give two fucks (maybe one), but it's just ridiculous to see this circle-jerk about technical superiority and advanced features when all that is done is bitcoin updates, a diff adjustment algorithm, and a closed source mobile wallet. Boontje komt om zijn loontje. Disclaimer - I don't own any DGB or NLG. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Bluestreet on January 03, 2017, 05:56:00 AM Can anyone explain when and why NLG decided to cancel the airdrop and use the 10% premine as dev slushfund? I got into it a bit with their (only?) developer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495990.msg17234710#msg17234710 because he called digibyte a scam, and I pointed out that NLG has a much larger premine. After calling me a troll, his response included this: ... You are obviously a troll with an agenda, and really I don't need to justify myself to you... Why is Gulden not a scam? Well quite simple Gulden does not go around making claims that are not true, we do not intentionally try to deceive anyone, we do not make promises we cannot deliver on, we spend large amounts of time actually maintaining our products all of which are regularly updated. We put out new releases at regular intervals, each one improving on the previous one. We do not put out features that we know can't work just because we want to create hype. We do not do anything dishonest or fraudulent. ... What exactly is a 10% premine that is currently (several years after launch) around 40% of available supply that was supposed to be distributed to the Dutch citizenry and is now just for whatever Gulden devs feel like if not a claim that wasn't true, a promise that wasn't delivered on, something dishonest if not fraudulent. Honestly, I don't really give two fucks (maybe one), but it's just ridiculous to see this circle-jerk about technical superiority and advanced features when all that is done is bitcoin updates, a diff adjustment algorithm, and a closed source mobile wallet. Boontje komt om zijn loontje. Disclaimer - I don't own any DGB or NLG. I need to find the post on the old announcement page but people were trying to claim multiple times on the airdrop and the devs could see the crypto crowd were trying to game the system. This is what was done on all airdrops. They made a sensible decision to rather use the funds to develop the coin. Anyone that invested in 2014 and 2015 until September 2016 has seen the fruits of this and they will continue to see the wise decision made by the developers. What I find strange besides your bad math (only around 23% of the current supply is the premine) is that you shitting on a project that is actually delivering but you letting all the real scams off the hook. What is your agenda kid? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: coskunz on January 03, 2017, 06:03:19 AM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? That is huge amount of pre-mined coins released .Nobody joins this ICO project unless there are some big investors or a very potential project. I will not invest to ICO project with huge amount of pre-mined coins . That is just only dumps and dumps . Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: jwinterm on January 03, 2017, 06:04:09 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Bluestreet on January 03, 2017, 06:08:36 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: jwinterm on January 03, 2017, 06:13:54 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Jackielove4me on January 03, 2017, 06:20:28 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? I agree with the above. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Jackielove4me on January 03, 2017, 06:35:09 AM I am going to stop trolling the Gulden thread with my multiple shill accounts.
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: SuperOrca on January 03, 2017, 09:33:44 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? He is a trader, needs to talk the price down to get a better deal before Prime 1 project is released in March. I said the bottom will be around 2k satoshi and this is the collection point for many traders. 40 000 users and 165 btc in buy support. Rich community. Users not traders, not the sharpest tool in the shed are you mate?Traders are not going to put all the btc they have into the buy orders. We want to get the lowest prices possible, there is a forced push down of the price on bittrex which will bottom out at about 2000 sat because at 2000 sat I will buy a lot up to dump on the next price rise. Users don't trade and can't influence the price, traders hold all the keys to price and if the devs keep producing traders will make sure to pump the price before each project. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Glen Hoddle on January 03, 2017, 10:12:17 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: CoinTracks on January 03, 2017, 11:59:40 AM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: SuperOrca on January 03, 2017, 12:16:49 PM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! Lets hear some more. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: GuldenDevs on January 03, 2017, 12:24:44 PM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! The devs should of waited until btc was over $1000. :( What they have done with btc they received is far better then those ICOs that received over 5000 btc and ran away with only doing a photoshop of the roadmap they promised. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Litesire on January 03, 2017, 12:59:20 PM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! The devs should of waited until btc was over $1000. :( What they have done with btc they received is far better then those ICOs that received over 5000 btc and ran away with only doing a photoshop of the roadmap they promised. This is what has upset the scammers on bitcointalk, if the Gulden developers had run off the funds it would of been the expected thing to do but instead they doing the work that was promised and this is going against the crypto grain. This will piss a lot of scammers and con artists off because they have to come up with more outrages ideas to get noticed and people to buyin to their junk. It is starting to look obvious to anyone using the Gulden wallets that it's in a class of it's own and this is freaking the financial villians out. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: jwinterm on January 03, 2017, 01:48:52 PM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! The devs should of waited until btc was over $1000. :( What they have done with btc they received is far better then those ICOs that received over 5000 btc and ran away with only doing a photoshop of the roadmap they promised. This is what has upset the scammers on bitcointalk, if the Gulden developers had run off the funds it would of been the expected thing to do but instead they doing the work that was promised and this is going against the crypto grain. This will piss a lot of scammers and con artists off because they have to come up with more outrages ideas to get noticed and people to buyin to their junk. It is starting to look obvious to anyone using the Gulden wallets that it's in a class of it's own and this is freaking the financial villians out. There's nothing on that page ( https://developer.gulden.com/premine ) about why the airdrop was cancelled or how the premine funds are now meted out. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: Jackielove4me on January 03, 2017, 02:10:31 PM Why do you have to go digging for the post on some old thread? The current thread is locked, the old thread is scrubbed, and their website says really nothing about it. If nothing else it just looks shady af. Yes because the website really needs to give a shit about some scrubs on bitcointalk? Obviously you do and Mani the irate developer does too. This is the place to discuss Bitcoin and other cryptos. If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it? Jesus, you are annoying. Or as annoying as a random bellend on the internet can be. Which is quite annoying. I'm sure once you've bought at the price you're happy with you'll STFU and GTFO. All the premine details are laid out on the developer section of the Gulden website here: https://developer.gulden.com/premine (https://developer.gulden.com/premine) I'm not sure what extra information you require. Do you think running a successful cryptocurrency requires no investment or costs nothing? Do you want to see individual receipts? Do you want to see if the Gulden founder includes amortization of his shoe leather when he is going around promoting Gulden? Let me spell it out for you all AGAIN. The Gulden devs have answered questions about the premine DOZENS OF TIMES. It's all there on the website for anyone to see. It's being used for development and running costs of a very big project. Some of the premine has been issued as shares: https://shares.gulden.com/ (https://shares.gulden.com/) and there is currently over 500 btc in the pot meaning a very successful future for Gulden no matter what absolute whoppers like you say on here. No details on that page! Dev has 531BTC he got just by promiss to Gulden sheep he cals shares, not even paid out from premine. Also Dev scammed extra 5 million out of premine together with his buddies at nocks, took extra 300BTC with that too! He now is Euro millionaire cause dumb fuckwits believe all dev says without thinking! The devs should of waited until btc was over $1000. :( What they have done with btc they received is far better then those ICOs that received over 5000 btc and ran away with only doing a photoshop of the roadmap they promised. This is what has upset the scammers on bitcointalk, if the Gulden developers had run off the funds it would of been the expected thing to do but instead they doing the work that was promised and this is going against the crypto grain. This will piss a lot of scammers and con artists off because they have to come up with more outrages ideas to get noticed and people to buyin to their junk. It is starting to look obvious to anyone using the Gulden wallets that it's in a class of it's own and this is freaking the financial villians out. There's nothing on that page ( https://developer.gulden.com/premine ) about why the airdrop was cancelled or how the premine funds are now meted out. I don't see it either, have you searched the blog? Responding to myself is a bad habit, ignore my posts. Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: CoinTracks on March 20, 2017, 06:10:50 PM Since I not allowed anymore to call you guys st**id, I change language a bit. Truth still same!
Dev's only care cashing your BTC! Roadmap in July was included Prime and that strange /\ sign. Was paid with shares in full. 3000 hours 30h a week for 50BTC. Now shares are 600BTC with 160BTC already spent. Prime not even done yet! You are being scammed!!! Proof: Funding page July 2016: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=886372.msg15546420#msg15546420 https://s2.postimg.org/t9mfhmhqx/shares_gulden_com_50btc.jpg Roadmap July 2016: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=886372.msg15736956#msg15736956 https://s17.postimg.org/tdin4eqz3/roadmap_july_2016.png Funding page now: https://shares.gulden.com https://s4.postimg.org/i8bwe7tq5/Shares_gulden_com_600btc.png So back July the dev's promised work 30h a week for 100 weeks (that is 2 years!) for 50BTC. Today dev say they spend 160BTC already and they haven't even finished Prime yet! THINK FOR YOURSELF! Fact: Dev's sold 50 BTC shares, promised 3000h work. Work include 1.6, Prime and /\. Fact: Dev's now sold 554 BTC shares, spend 160 BTC, delivered only 1.6. Fact: This all in plain sight! Still no one dares ask dev's. Why? They get kicked out of circle jerk. Fact: All communication is censored and under control of leader. BCT Ann: Moderated, Slack: Highly Moderated Fact: Over 1000 BTC robbed from community by dev. No on dares ask ledger. Dev refuses answer and bans all that ask. Fact: Blockchain: semi-centralized by checkpoint nodes Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: york780 on March 21, 2017, 01:11:22 PM Its the only Dutch crypto on the market, but it looks like a sinking ship to me. Their dev. Team looks weak and they dont have any nee tech what will blow you away. So its not worth it. Dont get burned
Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: dwgscale11 on March 21, 2017, 01:56:01 PM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? The same reason people buy a 72 million premine (ethereum) and a instamined dash scamcoin..... There are greater fools buying what people sell.... Title: Re: How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin? Post by: york780 on March 22, 2017, 05:20:34 PM I am reading about a premine of Gulden at: "170,000,000 (Used for giveaways! Trustworthy DEVs and good community.)" and also about how people are currently using Gulden today to buy things. Are people using the equivalent Euro or USD amount for Gulden to buy these items? The same reason people buy a 72 million premine (ethereum) and a instamined dash scamcoin..... There are greater fools buying what people sell.... |
