How do people buy from a 170 Million premined coin?

[paramind22]

My tone is just general information seeking.  I wasn't being sarcastic in it.  I would like Gulden to succeed, even more, I would like to get some o that premine   

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[Glen Hoddle]

Dev's have before paid themselves.
All they have to do is pretend they are another person doing dev work.
Then put that onto the premine ledger. It's been done.. lots.

I like you mate I really do. Please do more research on Gulden before you jump the shark here.

Are you accusing me of being "The Fonz" (from Happy Days)  
No problem.. i will take it LOL

But hey i am talking about accountability.
Not whether the coin is scammy etc.
I am suggesting though when a dev behind a coin omits any type of ledger. (at least a ledger if not more)
Yes it then is in fact highly sketchy and pretty much always scammy.

This is not up for debate noob accounts.
You can try but you are wasting your time.
Those of us here not bullshiting will see and ALREADY know the truth.

You're way cooler than the Fonz mate. He was a middle aged mechanic who hung around with teenagers. Anyway, all the information regarding the Gulden premine is out there and all coins so far used for development have been accounted for.

The Gulden devs are not trying to hide anything and are always available to answer questions. The questions relating to the premine have been answered a gazillion times before though so it must get annoying for them to have to keep justifying themselves.

Gulden is the most innovative alt out there. This is a fact and can't be denied, and with 600 BTC in the pot for future development things are going to get even better.

[jwinterm]

The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368

After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens.
To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system.
We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy.

We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014.

Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie.

[Brito]

The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368

After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens.
To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system.
We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy.

We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014.

Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie.

Are you having a laugh m8?

[secretservice]

I don't think people are using it to buy things. The market seems to be driven by hype and speculation. I also do not see the improvements that the currency brings with regard to Bitcoin, but I would be happy if anyone could clarify.

[GuldenDevs]

The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368

After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens.
To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system.
We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy.

We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014.

Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie.

Yo, wazzup... this is what the the Gulden devs think about your posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OtqfFLAPw

[Warkop]

I can tell no one replying here has downloaded the wallets and used them or this waste of space on btctalk servers would not exist.

maybe it's there, but only those people who like him who would do her.

[DGBforver]

The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368

After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens.
To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system.
We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy.

We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014.

Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie.

I can't find this link they talking about, on desktop i need to scan a qr with my iphone wallet but does not work. Is this a gimmick or did I miss something?

[TamiLee]

The 10% premine (currently ~39% of available supply) was originally supposed to be distributed to the Dutch people. They have scrubbed the original ANN, but you can see it quoted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6049368#msg6049368

After 40 years there will be a maximum of 1.7 billion Guldencoins in circulation. 170 million of these have been reserved for Dutch citizens.
To ensure safe distribution of these 170 million Guldencoins to Dutch citizens, we had to create our own system.
We set out to create a realistic method that would make it accessible and fair to everyone, without impeding on your privacy.

We will announce how this system works when it goes live with the Guldencoin on April 4th, 2014.

Then at some point they decided they would just keep the premine for development, which so far consists of a closed source mobile wallet and a difficulty retargeting algorithm. Seems pretty scammy to me, but hey, c'est la vie.

I can't find this link they talking about, on desktop i need to scan a qr with my iphone wallet but does not work. Is this a gimmick or did I miss something?

The link feature is amazing but only works between Desktop and Android , it's meant to be added to IOS soon.
It basically links your wallets together without any centralization. First for crypto.

[KitcatCat]

So who is holding the very large premine?

[KitcatCat]

So who is holding the very large premine?

Batman.

Seriously dude. Is it the dev, the dev team, an escrow....

[GuldenDevs]

So who is holding the very large premine?

Batman.

Seriously dude. Is it the dev, the dev team, an escrow....

Technically speaking its Robin who holds the premine but he has butter fingers and sometimes some of it slips onto the exchanges. It's all being put to good use to fight crime in Gotham.

[Spoetnik]

@Glen Hoddle
You know The Fonz started that saying right ?
Because he jumped a shark 

And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here.

Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability.
I promise i won't do it again   

[Hueristic]

..., c'est la vie.

You mean "dat is het leven" ?

[GuldenDevs]

@Glen Hoddle
You know The Fonz started that saying right ?
Because he jumped a shark 

And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here.

Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability.
I promise i won't do it again   

Keep it coming brother, the devs need a stamp of approval from the bitcointalk community.

[Spoetnik]

@Glen Hoddle
You know The Fonz started that saying right ?
Because he jumped a shark 

And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here.

Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability.
I promise i won't do it again   

Keep it coming brother, the devs need a stamp of approval from the bitcointalk community.

You have 3 posts here LOL
What other forum would a Legendary account listen to a shithead with 3 posts ?

[qwizzie]

We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation.
And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that.

Coinmarketcap says :
Available Supply
337,487,745 NLG
Total Supply
439,507,900 NLG

So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine.
If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion.

They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017.

Rule 1 about crypto.... never talk about supporting dash when wanting people to take you seriously.

Dash is a KNOWN and proven captive instamine scam coin.

Rule number 1 : never listen or take advice from trolls like cryptohunter .. period.

Now i'm Dutch myself but i choose to support Dash as it has the potential to make it into global digital cash
and i am certainly not the only Dutchman who is supporting Dash :

[cryptohunter]

We wouldn't have this discussion when Gulden (or any other altcoin) wasn't premined like crazy. There is currently 337,487,045 guldens in circulation.
And 170,000,000 of them were premined? - no comment on that.

Coinmarketcap says :
Available Supply
337,487,745 NLG
Total Supply
439,507,900 NLG

So it seems you are misrepresenting the situation, 439500000 in circulation and only 102000000 of that still in premine.
If premine is being slowly used to fund actual development, which seems to be the case, then whats the problem? More honest than most the ICO crap or other junk we see in my opinion.

They angry because the Gulden devs are making them look stupid. Litecoin $225 million marketcap and this coin destroys it. Dash and Gulden will be the kings of 2017.

Rule 1 about crypto.... never talk about supporting dash when wanting people to take you seriously.

Dash is a KNOWN and proven captive instamine scam coin.

Rule number 1 : never listen or take advice from trolls like cryptohunter .. period.

Now i'm Dutch myself but i choose to support Dash as it has the potential to make it into global digital cash
and i am certainly not the only Dutchman who is supporting Dash :

You certainly talk double dutch

Why not turn this thread into dash spam too. You are out of control. It has nothing to do with dash does it?

Dash is a scam research on this board you will find the truth.

Qwizzie is a known spammer and scam promoter. You will see others stating the same regarding this spam/scam artist.

I mean just search darkcoin on this board dont even add the word scam but

[Spoetnik]

You have 3 posts here LOL
What other forum would a Legendary account listen to a shithead with 3 posts ?

OMG he made a lot of posts, quick everyone give him a medal! On what other forum do losers think people will respect them just for making lots of posts Go out and live a little.

Play dumb.. you all know that shit would not fly ANYWHERE else on the web.

Why would a grown man listen to a lecture from a 2yr old ?
Common sense people not games..

And want to discuss the topic ? Fine.. let's do it !

You greedy morons want profit.
So you all started this ICO bullshit.. started by calling them IPO's.
Which they are essentially 100% premines.
But you all sit there and play dumb about it then try and warp it all.

Why would idiots chanting Free Market, Decentralization, No regulations etc support this ?
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You are all full of fucking shit 101%

I have never owned an ICO / IPO coin nor would i.
I do not support the principle and concept / functional operation of them.
So why would i own any or trade them on Poloniex for ROI's ?

ICO = Premine ..the worst fucking kind.

ICO = SCAM.

Bullshit pumped out for ROI'z  

You guys are not "entitled" to fuck all.
Can't afford to launch a currency then don't do it..

Don't like my comment ? Go create yet another new account here about it idiots.
And by the way..
My original points stands still not just because Noobs would not be tolerated elsewhere..
But because of the context of the situation here you all play stupid about non stop.
Which is all you guys do.. play stupid.. for bucks $$$
Reality Check douche nozzles.. there is almost 1 god damn million accounts here and a few hundred logged in daily.
So what in the flying fuck does that tell us idiots ?

1,000,000 User accounts
         300 Active accounts

 

[Glen Hoddle]

@Glen Hoddle
You know The Fonz started that saying right ?
Because he jumped a shark 

And WOW i can't believe how many noob accounts have responded here.

Oh and sorry for bringing up accountability.
I promise i won't do it again   

I know, I tried to post a gif of it but it wouldn't let me   

Anyway in conclusion, I always enjoy your rants about scams and stuff and you've been an endless source of entertainment over the years. You've also helped make me some btc too with your insight.

Gulden is not a scam and deserves a hell of a lot more respect amongst the crypto community than it gets on this forum. I would have been disappointed if you'd have started hating on it.

I encourage you to look into Gulden more.