Is Gulden a good investment?

[TamiLee]

I can't post on official ann because it's locked but DELTA is working to perfection, the developers have made a differential algorithm to combat multi pools without having to switch algorithm. Simply incredible the entire 1.6.0 release! Well done to the developers!!

DELTA update:
At block 437500 the new updated version of the DELTA diff algorithm will kick in, we are excited for the changes we have made and expect a positive impact to be made on the blockchain overall. We will monitor the changes over the next few weeks
and provide feedback on DELTA’s performance. The changeover is expected to occur around 4pm GMT +1.

http://nlgstats.nl ,  brilliant job to the developers.

24 × 60 ÷ 2.5 = 576 per day , the coin is running how it was intended with profit switching pools hammering it. DELTA is officially the best diff algorithm in crypto.

1.6 has made Gulden the best crypto , PRIME project is going to make it the best crypto by far.

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[Danslip]

Its a great investment if you wait for it to come back down in price first. Its got a long ways to go.

yes, extra blocks is going to kill market , why didn't team reduce reward?

This is good, no marketing and extra coins crushing the market daily. Dev oversight equal cheap coins for us traders.

[kurbeks]

Sadly H2C has NLG now in maintanace

[CryptoCypherCoin]

I would say that it wasn't a good investment at this time, but perhaps keep an eye on all the latest updates

[Myraidcoins]

The 1.6 update was a feat all Altcoins can aspire too. The main problem is the update came when Bitcoin price was going up and too close to holiday season.

The extra rewards is only 20% more a day and the price has dropped 20% or close to 20%. It will settle at about 2800 sat.

[Altcoinfanatic]

Why on bittrex the wallet is in maintenance ?

Bittrex are in the process of upgrading their wallet to the new 1.6 codebase.
As there are a lot of changes that 1.6 brings to the table (specifically in this case Accounts and HD) this requires some changes from their side in order to switch over correctly so is taking them a bit more time than normal, probably they will be done in the next day or so.

Dear Mani,

splendid update!!!!!11! Just love it.

Some questions:
1. Is Segwit code integrated in 1.6.1/1.6.2? If so when is the activation date? Is it using version bits or ISM (IsSuperMajority)?
2. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 integrated? If so when is the activation date?
3. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? The android wallet seems to be based on schilbach but seems to use electrum servers? Any plans to release electrum wallets?
4. It seems that you are the second ios wallet that enables payment to btc also (Dash being the first using shapeshift instead of nocks). Are there any plans to support iWatches also so we can be again the first?
5. Are there any plans to move the premine to multisig addresses (so for example you, waterloodown and rijk has keys and you need atleast 2 of 3)?
6. Why is the Gulden ios wallets description on the app store saying: Gulden is a simple payments app that you can use to scan and pay any Bitcoin & Euro QR-code. And not mentioning Gulden? is it because Apple will remove Gulden from the apple store if they know that you can also send/receive Gulden with it?

[MaNI]

splendid update!!!!!11! Just love it.

Thanks.

Some questions:
1. Is Segwit code integrated in 1.6.1/1.6.2? If so when is the activation date? Is it using version bits or ISM (IsSuperMajority)?

It's integrated but disabled (except on testnet where it is active). We have no immediate plans to activate it on mainnet as right now there is no immediate need (or immediate benefits) to us doing so, we do not have massive block congestion, none of our current services are having overwhelming malleability issues..
There are various risks to activating this ahead of bitcoin, including the fact that it may never activate on bitcoin, if it never activates then perhaps the Bitcoin devs will revisit the malleability problem and find a better solution, perhaps we would rather follow them in that then be stuck supporting a feature they never activated and dumped (just because we wanted to be first) We also have no real desire to being Bitcoins beta testers.

So yes, we could have activated this already if we wanted but we aren't really interested in that right now, we are far more interested in our own projects that we are busy working on which IMO are far more exciting and represent far more real value for our userbase.

I know the above probably sounds strange in the 'crypto' field where other coins are all clamouring to claim they are first at something so that they can score cheap hype points or whatever, but this is how it is.
At Gulden we are focused on sustainable responsible development, not hype driven nonsense and cheap tricks.

2. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 integrated? If so when is the activation date?

Yes, depends on miners, but in the next few days I believe.

3. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? The android wallet seems to be based on schilbach but seems to use electrum servers? Any plans to release electrum wallets?

None of our official wallets use Electrum in any way whatsoever, only third party wallets like Coinomi do, personally I recommend people stick to our official wallets which I feel are a far better experience.
All of our official wallets are and will remain fully decentralised.

4. It seems that you are the second ios wallet that enables payment to btc also (Dash being the first using shapeshift instead of nocks). Are there any plans to support iWatches also so we can be again the first?

We don't comment on future development plans outside of official announcement channels, I'm afraid you will have to wait and see.

I have no comment on any of the other questions.

[Altcoinfanatic]

splendid update!!!!!11! Just love it.

Thanks.

Some questions:
1. Is Segwit code integrated in 1.6.1/1.6.2? If so when is the activation date? Is it using version bits or ISM (IsSuperMajority)?

It's integrated but disabled (except on testnet where it is active). We have no immediate plans to activate it on mainnet as right now there is no immediate need (or immediate benefits) to us doing so, we do not have massive block congestion, none of our current services are having overwhelming malleability issues..
There are various risks to activating this ahead of bitcoin, including the fact that it may never activate on bitcoin, if it never activates then perhaps the Bitcoin devs will revisit the malleability problem and find a better solution, perhaps we would rather follow them in that then be stuck supporting a feature they never activated and dumped (just because we wanted to be first) We also have no real desire to being Bitcoins beta testers.

So yes, we could have activated this already if we wanted but we aren't really interested in that right now, we are far more interested in our own projects that we are busy working on which IMO are far more exciting and represent far more real value for our userbase.

I know the above probably sounds strange in the 'crypto' field where other coins are all clamouring to claim they are first at something so that they can score cheap hype points or whatever, but this is how it is.
At Gulden we are focused on sustainable responsible development, not hype driven nonsense and cheap tricks.

2. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 integrated? If so when is the activation date?

Yes, depends on miners, but in the next few days I believe.

3. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? The android wallet seems to be based on schilbach but seems to use electrum servers? Any plans to release electrum wallets?

None of our official wallets use Electrum in any way whatsoever, only third party wallets like Coinomi do, personally I recommend people stick to our official wallets which I feel are a far better experience.
All of our official wallets are and will remain fully decentralised.

4. It seems that you are the second ios wallet that enables payment to btc also (Dash being the first using shapeshift instead of nocks). Are there any plans to support iWatches also so we can be again the first?

We don't comment on future development plans outside of official announcement channels, I'm afraid you will have to wait and see.

I have no comment on any of the other questions.

Very satisfying answers. Just 2 remaining:

1. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 activation done through version bits (a la Bitcoin) or ISM (IsSuperMajority a la Litecoin)?
2. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? I can't seem to find any recent commits on Github? But that could be me

[bittrojan]

Its a great investment if you wait for it to come back down in price first. Its got a long ways to go.

yes, extra blocks is going to kill market , why didn't team reduce reward?

This is good, no marketing and extra coins crushing the market daily. Dev oversight equal cheap coins for us traders.

I agree. Take this as an opportunity for us to make fatter stacks. Seize the moment.

[DGBforver]

splendid update!!!!!11! Just love it.

Thanks.

Some questions:
1. Is Segwit code integrated in 1.6.1/1.6.2? If so when is the activation date? Is it using version bits or ISM (IsSuperMajority)?

It's integrated but disabled (except on testnet where it is active). We have no immediate plans to activate it on mainnet as right now there is no immediate need (or immediate benefits) to us doing so, we do not have massive block congestion, none of our current services are having overwhelming malleability issues..
There are various risks to activating this ahead of bitcoin, including the fact that it may never activate on bitcoin, if it never activates then perhaps the Bitcoin devs will revisit the malleability problem and find a better solution, perhaps we would rather follow them in that then be stuck supporting a feature they never activated and dumped (just because we wanted to be first) We also have no real desire to being Bitcoins beta testers.

So yes, we could have activated this already if we wanted but we aren't really interested in that right now, we are far more interested in our own projects that we are busy working on which IMO are far more exciting and represent far more real value for our userbase.

I know the above probably sounds strange in the 'crypto' field where other coins are all clamouring to claim they are first at something so that they can score cheap hype points or whatever, but this is how it is.
At Gulden we are focused on sustainable responsible development, not hype driven nonsense and cheap tricks.

2. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 integrated? If so when is the activation date?

Yes, depends on miners, but in the next few days I believe.

3. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? The android wallet seems to be based on schilbach but seems to use electrum servers? Any plans to release electrum wallets?

None of our official wallets use Electrum in any way whatsoever, only third party wallets like Coinomi do, personally I recommend people stick to our official wallets which I feel are a far better experience.
All of our official wallets are and will remain fully decentralised.

4. It seems that you are the second ios wallet that enables payment to btc also (Dash being the first using shapeshift instead of nocks). Are there any plans to support iWatches also so we can be again the first?

We don't comment on future development plans outside of official announcement channels, I'm afraid you will have to wait and see.

I have no comment on any of the other questions.

Very satisfying answers. Just 2 remaining:

1. Is BIP68, BIP112, and BIP113 activation done through version bits (a la Bitcoin) or ISM (IsSuperMajority a la Litecoin)?
2. Are the ios and android wallet open source? If not, why? I can't seem to find any recent commits on Github? But that could be me

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

Jared would of made this update look 100 times better then what these devs did. MaNI next time take the fucking offer. Your dev skills with Jareds marketing.

[donnatello]

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

True. Marketing is holding them back from the tremendous potential

[Dutchyyy]

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

True. Marketing is holding them back from the tremendous potential

Price must be below 2000 according to 22kilo and his team, I am buying more below 2000.

[donnatello]

Price must be below 2000 according to 22kilo and his team, I am buying more below 2000.

Disagree on downside. Agree on upside. 

[MaNI]

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

Jared would of made this update look 100 times better then what these devs did. MaNI next time take the fucking offer. Your dev skills with Jareds marketing.

Let me put this in simple terms you can understand, I would never ever work for a con man like Jared, not for any price.
I work for Gulden because they don't have a con man like Jared.
If Gulden were to get a con man like Jared I would leave, instantly.

Coins like that will -never- have a proper development team, because absolutely no legitimate real programmer would risk tarnishing their reputation to be involved in such an obvious scam.

Paying to appear in a few conferences is not marketing, utter outright lies is not marketing, you don't know what real marketing is, you probably never will.

Now go away please you have no idea what you are talking about, go stick to your precious scam and stop trying to involve me in it. I have no interest whatsoever in what you are selling.
Clearly you have no interest in real projects with a long term vision so this project is not for you, go back to Jared and go worship him, we don't want you here.

You and your sockpuppets were crying about 'marketing' when were at 300 sat, your are crying about it when we are at 3000 sat, and you will still be crying about it when we are at 30000 sat one day in the future, meanwhile you are oblivious to the only things that really matter, real user growth. Where I come from we have a single word for people like you: clueless.

[TheCrash]

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

True. Marketing is holding them back from the tremendous potential

Price must be below 2000 according to 22kilo and his team, I am buying more below 2000.

I put 5.6 btc on 2000, pray you are right! It will be the deal the decade. 

[jwinterm]

I will give the Gulden development team some credit after looking into this new release. Technically they might be the best in crypto but they have dreadful marketing, the marketing is so bad that you have to wonder if the entire community lives under a rock or is non existent and made up of bots.

Jared would of made this update look 100 times better then what these devs did. MaNI next time take the fucking offer. Your dev skills with Jareds marketing.

Let me put this in simple terms you can understand, I would never ever work for a con man like Jared, not for any price.
I work for Gulden because they don't have a con man like Jared.
If Gulden were to get a con man like Jared I would leave, instantly.

Coins like that will -never- have a proper development team, because absolutely no legitimate real programmer would risk tarnishing their reputation to be involved in such an obvious scam.

Paying to appear in a few conferences is not marketing, utter outright lies is not marketing, you don't know what real marketing is, you probably never will.

Now go away please you have no idea what you are talking about, go stick to your precious scam and stop trying to involve me in it. I have no interest whatsoever in what you are selling.
Clearly you have no interest in real projects with a long term vision so this project is not for you, go back to Jared and go worship him, we don't want you here.

You and your sockpuppets were crying about 'marketing' when were at 300 sat, your are crying about it when we are at 3000 sat, and you will still be crying about it when we are at 30000 sat one day in the future, meanwhile you are oblivious to the only things that really matter, real user growth. Where I come from we have a single word for people like you: clueless.

Why exactly is dgb a scam and gulden is not? Doesn't gulden have a much bigger premine that is currently a much much bigger share of coins in circulation now? I don't own any gulden or digibyte, just curious about the choice of language re: scam. Afaics it seems like the blacker pot calling the kettle black, but maybe I'm missing some part of the story.

[gamersea]

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[MaNI]

Why exactly is dgb a scam and gulden is not? Doesn't gulden have a much bigger premine that is currently a much much bigger share of coins in circulation now? I don't own any gulden or digibyte, just curious about the choice of language re: scam. Afaics it seems like the blacker pot calling the kettle black, but maybe I'm missing some part of the story.

You are obviously a troll with an agenda, and really I don't need to justify myself to you, if I say I won't ever work for something because it is a scam then I am entitled to that opinion. As soon as people from that coin stop making stupid comments that I should work for them I will happily stop stating the reason why that will never happen.
I mean honestly I would like nothing more than to never hear about that coin again, it is they who keep coming to us and causing trouble.

But what the hell let me amuse you for once, it is the 'silly season' after all.


For starters you apparently have no idea what a scam is.
While some scams might have premines there really is no correlation between the two - this is simply a straw man of your own construction. A premine is simply an entity, whether it is used for good or 'evil' depends entirely on the project. In the case of Gulden it is being used to fund development (While in the case of a scam the entire thing would have been dumped on the market when the coin reached it's temporary peak of 12000 sat) - which unless you are blind you will agree is quite clearly being delivered on, so if you want to claim that is somehow a 'scam' then I believe the onus is on -you- to prove that.


As for what does constitute a scam, this is pretty simple.
Scam "a dishonest scheme; a fraud" (i.e. exactly what certain people around here like to call 'marketing')
Why is Gulden not a scam?
Well quite simple Gulden does not go around making claims that are not true, we do not intentionally try to deceive anyone, we do not make promises we cannot deliver on, we spend large amounts of time actually maintaining our products all of which are regularly updated. We put out new releases at regular intervals, each one improving on the previous one. We do not put out features that we know can't work just because we want to create hype.
We do not do anything dishonest or fraudulent.



Now lets examine what does make a scam - you'll notice this pattern in a huge amount of coins around here:
1) Claims about large investment with no proof to back it up
2) Claims of enough developers to form a football squad
3) Nothing works properly or as advertised - things like mobile wallets are released once and then left to break, when they break people are told "you should use the desktop wallet instead"
4) When this is brought up the community is asked to fix it or step up and donate to fix it despite (1) and (2)
5) Regularly make claims about outrageous things like "Microsoft partnerships" or "using Microsoft technology"
6) Consider a 'checkpoint update' as a major heading in release notes.
7) Implement(s) cheap gimmicks like super fast block times which can be used to impress/fool people who don't understand what is going on, but that anybody who really understands the code knows would never hold up if the network were actually exposed to real usage.
8 ) Focuses on things like TPS even though 99% of blocks are completely empty.
9) Despite (1) and (2) have put out less lines of code in an entire year than what
10) Putting out features that they know don't actually work properly - just because the feature will generate hype.
11) Run on year(s) old codebases with known vulnerabilities, knowingly putting peoples money at risk and pretending that this is not an issue.

Really I could go on all day, the above are just a few random points of dishonesty or fraud, aka a scam.
Hopefully this satisfies you, if not, too bad.

So there I made the effort to answer your question so now  it's my turn to ask a question - quite clearly you have absolutely no interest in Gulden - I mean you said yourself you would never invest. Your last 5 posts here have all been to FUD, first with a bunch of embarassingly wrong assumptions about our latest release, and now about a premine.
So heres the question - why are you here? Why hate on one of the few projects in Crypto that is actually putting out legitimate projects and code? You don't have to like Gulden that's fine but then why don't you just go do something constructive instead of coming here with nonsense?

[jwinterm]

I guess I just like triggering overly sensitive developers with innocuous questions

Really I own lots of different coins and follow some others, so I browse the altcoin sections occasionally, then once I make a comment that thread will keep popping up on site unread replies, so I will check it once in a while.

This isn't your Ann thread anyway - the topic was a question. Shouldn't people be free to come in here and put forth arguments both in favor and opposed without being immediately attacked as a troll or shill? Personally I wouldn't buy gulden or characterize it as a good "investment" because:

 - I very rarely would touch any coin with a premine (I think one exception is decred where I got most of what I hold from airdrop), but especially one that is basically a Bitcoin clone.

 - I don't use closed source software for anything cryptocurrency related.

 - I'm not Dutch (I think it was a mistake to attempt decentralized country coins).

 - I think it was a bit misleading to launch with a premine that was mostly supposed to be for an airdrop to Dutch people then being like, "maybe we'll just keep this for development fund..."

If it bothers you so much to see me ask a question or give my opinion maybe you should request OP to make thread self-moderated and change the title to "Reasons you should buy gulden".

Have a holly jolly Xmas

[MaNI]

- I very rarely would touch any coin with a premine (I think one exception is decred where I got most of what I hold from airdrop), but especially one that is basically a Bitcoin clone.

Yet the two coins you are most widely know to be associated with vary from bitcoin only by about a few thousand lines of code (probably an overestimate), and have stock bitcoin wallets, while the latest Gulden release alone (ignoring all previous releases) introduces over 25000 lines of new unique code (for just the desktop wallet and ignoring the 0.13 merge on top of that) and has a completely different interface.
Perhaps the word 'clone' means something different in your world?

- I don't use closed source software for anything cryptocurrency related.

Yet our source code is right there on github.

If it bothers you so much to see me ask a question or give my opinion maybe you should request OP to make thread self-moderated and change the title to "Reasons you should buy gulden".

It doesn't bother me so much as I find it rather sad and pathetic, I would much rather see people turning out real projects with their time, but then based on how often you are incorrect here (6 out of your last 7 posts have contained objectively false information - and I had to correct you twice in your latest post alone) I guess you aren't capable of doing much constructive anyway.