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Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I read some of satoshi posts and I don't think its A.I. At the same time I can't imagine what man on earth can restrain oneself from touching such fortune that satoshi has. And it will be conveniently for A.I. to invent Bitcoin to take control of men finances because it doesn't understand dollars

Then it will be more complicated to build an AI which could create bitcoin with complex 31,000 lines code.
There's many thing that more complicated than bitcoin and possible to be developed by human. For example when bill gates first built his Windows OS.

31000 line of code is not a big task for any programmers because I am just a moderate level programmer and writing 1000 to 2000( or may be more then that ) line of code is daily time table so I think writing 31000 line for a revolutionary technology is not behind our imagination. its possible to do that may he had some assistance or if he was alone then also writing 31000 line would hardly 1 month and for logics and algorithms and testing I will give him 1 year to write those and I think its enough

Interesting topic.  Just earlier today I speculated the same possibility.

Anyone familiar with the Prometheus project? 

lol ;D I don't think that bitcoin was made by an A.I. and I don't know if there could be someone who could make an A.I. like that but if so, then that would be so awesome . if bitcoin was really made by an A.I. for sure it would be more complex and maybe it will have more than 31,000 line of codes, just an opinion 'cause I am not a programmer ;D

Iron man has not invented Jarvis in our timeline yet so it is not yet possible. Windows is written in 50 Million lines of codes, so what do you think wrote it? Aliens?

It's not possible that Satoshi is an A.I who created or develop Bitcoin. If that happened than we all know it by now. And what is the A.I.'s purpose of creating Bitcoin? You still need humans to create such thing. Also who will be the one designing/creating the A.I? Isn't it obvious that we have not yet touch the boundaries of having an A.I in real life. Only in Sci-Fi movies it exist as of the moment.

Even A.I. someone should create. :)
So, it's obvious that Satoshi is human but we don't know if he is only one man or whole group.
It seems that Satoshi likes his anonymity and he is clever enough to protect his privacy.
So, I don't think that we will ever know true identity of Satoshi.
It's ok because we should really focus on bitcoin, not on the man who created bitcoin.

Why the hell do people even care? I read a lot of these kinds of theories who Satoshi Nakamoto is. He isn't an AI, he once roamed this very forum before and I don't think any AI is that capable of posting that complex replies. Another point is, Satoshi is gone for a reason. He does not want to be found. Let's all just let him be.

windows isn't written by bill gates alone, history says its even stolen by him.
satoshi is a human, he knows his craft and that's very certain base upon his responses here in the forum. the guys just basically like burn his millions by forgetting the password of his wallet and he forget to save it somewhere which makes him more human.

It all depends upon which kind of code is this

I think that 31k lines of code are just enough to make it totally beyond and above understanding of any human being even if they tried to comprehend the logic behind it all their lifetime (provided that it was in fact written by an intelligence by far surpassing that of a human being). And I specifically refer to program logic (i.e. what exactly this code is doing), not coding style like unreadable variables (which could be easily changed, anyway). On the other hand, if it is flat logic, then 31k lines are in fact nothing beyond our imagination


Even if it should be created by someone, that doesn't in the least mean that its capabilities will be limited by the capabilities of its creator. Is a calculator's calculating power limited by those who invented it?

There is no AI capable of this kind of brain power. AI has come a long way, but we cannot credit AI for a masterpiece like this. The

elements put together here, was carefully brought together from several different concepts and combined to form a perfect system.

The "attack" angles have been carefully though out and Satoshi made some errors in his original design, which was later rectified by

other developers. { Satoshi was a sloppy programmer }  ;D

Seriously?, A.I is a Artificial Intelligence, which is made by human. So, how come that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I who created the bitcoin? My point here is, let's just say that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I and the one who made bitcoin, my question is, Is he the one that really made bitcoin?, No, right? Because Satoshi Nakamoto wouldn't be there in the first place if no one made him or program him, right? So, technically, the one who made bitcoin is the one who created Satoshi Nakamoto, if I'm not mistaken, well, we are just assuming that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I here, because he is really not an A.I.

We don't even know if Nakamoto is an individual or group of individuals

Or even a government agency which developed Bitcoin for some not quite clear ends. On the other hand, the idea behind AI is that it should be evolving, so it is wrong to assume that if it finds or designs something on its own, it is necessarily the creator of it who is behind these developments. If it really were so, humans themselves wouldn't be possible since any human being (or any other living being known to us so far, for that matter) basically develops from just one cell which has no intelligence whatsoever. Even self-learning neural networks wouldn't be possible in that case

No I don't think that Satoshi is a A.I. He is just a visionary guy who want nothing of limelight when he develop bitcoin.

I really would like the creator of bitcoin to be a very advanced A.I even though it seems impossible to me. Say that it was an A.I can anyone imagine the potential of A.I's developers? On the other side if the claim of OP is real and an A.I in 2009 has created a revolutionary technology what this A.I had made nowadays? It's sure that he had settled the debate between blocksize and segwit supporters and the consensus would be a reality. So probably the bitcoin creator is not an A.I and we can continue to search the individual or group who developed it

Nope. What is this Prometheus project? Does it have anything to do with the movie of the same name?

First Satoshi Nakamoto is not an A.I, how can he be an A.I making that cool and long codes and the algorithms is so hard that he is the first person to think of that. Secondly, if an A.I made a program that hard, then why are we trying to do thinking new codes, just let that A.I think of new codes or algorithms for the programming problems in the world. And finally, I think even if an A.I did that, the one who made that A.I will be the one responsible in inventing it or discovering it. But I think he is not an A.I, how can he be known and he is a great programmer.

I dont think satoshi is an AI, i think if he was he would have down a far better job with the code at the start, i hear it was pretty bad.  but again fair play for having the idea.....  ;D

Yeah, i also think about this sometimes, specially after i found this below. I think, it is totally relevant to their politics ideologies and what they did in the past and still continue. It fits perfectly their needs. And it is totally their style to act under a false flag ::)

October 31, 1996 HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas
National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology
Cryptology Division
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

international Monetary Fund (IMF) : One World, One Currency: Destination or Delusion? November 8, 2000
http://www.imf.org/external/np/tr/2000/tr001108.htm

I think you should put less weed and more tobacco  ;D

I dont think satoshi is an AI, and AI dont have brain power, you are lot of watch fantasy film

Good read. For sure satoshi is not an AI, but maybe something the governments create to test out something. Too much secrets the governments hide and we don't even know if they are really doing this because for sure it is top secret. One of these days we'll just be surprised that they are releasing a perfect cryptocurrency.

31 thousand lines of code may sound like a lot but the truth is, in terms of length that is not much many games probably have millions of lines of code and those games were developed by humans, besides developing an AI that could write those lines of code is probably more difficult than for a human to write the lines of code.

That's right. And for example, according to this site: https://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-2-billion-lines-codeand-one-place/, it's clearly be said that google which developed by "human" contain about 2 Billion lines of code.
To make an AI which could build bitcoin from scratch, It must have strong logic and until now it's proven that human can't develop an AI that thinks by itself and could invent complicated thing such as bitcoin.
Therefore, assuming Satoshi Nakamoto as an A.I just doesn't make sense, I would prefer the theory that said Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of developers.

Great facts there. We're far from building an AI that would probably even chat with us with great accuracy let alone an AI that can rule the world terminator style. This really debunks the main issue of this thread. It is just really impossible as of now to create such a smart AI. If it did exist I don't think we will co-exist with it.

No.

Satoshi was a poor programmer, and the first code was very crappy, full of bugs and huge errors.

He may have been a good mathematician or economist to invent Bitcoin, but his coding and technical skills were very poor.

If he had been an AI, he would have already implemented an automatic blocksize increase inside the code, and not wait for others to do it.

The code would have been more automatic and self-evolving, sort of like an AI itself, a "smart code".

He was 100% human, because he made many mistakes. AI dont make mistakes.

I think Satoshi Nakamoto is not A.I well as in other user say are still too many shortcomings to convince others that there He is a program

This is  weird but a new kind of idea. Though it might be possible that a group had made an artificial intelligence that is responsible for creating bitcoins. That maybe a good idea but that would be impossible for the moment since bitcoin was created even before 2009 and Artificial Intelligence is not existing at that time and even at this time.

Most likely not. I think there's still no A.I. capable of inventing anything by itself in 2017. Chances such computer existed in 2008 or earlier are very slim.
There's no reason to doubt that bitcoin was created by a human mind. Maybe it wasn't one person, but a group. A.I? Definitely no.

I don’t see any possibility of bitcoin’s invention by A.I. Today, A.I cannot even write a good meaningful poetry and writing such lines of code is not possible at least on this stage of A.I evolution. Alternatively, building such A.I is far difficult than building actual bitcoin so I don’t think there is even 1% probability of A.I contribution in inventing bitcoin.

No, he is not, he can write a whitepaper, and code without a bug, why do you think he is A.I? He is our God, and a sage invented bitcoin, let us rich.  ;D

I retract my claim. Satoshi Nakamoto is definitely a human(or trying to act like one). A genius at that. He made two mistakes in his posts: walkthough and idealogical. So what if he had invented an A.I. with which he created a bitcoin. He would have obviously made mistakes or made inelegant code just to throw us off. How about that?

With this hypothesis, we can safely say self recursively improving A.I. existed since 2008/2009. But we have not found a way to make it. Whereas Satoshi made it and used it on his own accord. But then the question again is "Who is Satoshi?".

I would say a supernatural being in the garb of a human male with human lingo. He was trying to be relevant just to throw us off.

But why did he do it? Is it a part of the grand scheme of things? We may never know...

There is no problem to create a self learning AI

The theories behind machine learning had been properly developed some 40-50 years ago. The main problem is that it is often not worth doing it. In most real world cases you will get better results with less costs by logic being hard coded (explicit programming), i.e. either by directly employing some quantitative theory already existing in the field of your interest or by using statistical approach (when you can't rely on such a theory)

Satoshi A.I. It was not.
Today,  There are studies poetry and film scenario writing with A.I.
I do not know any artificial intelligence programs that write their own program? But what is needed for this is to write the algorithm. Once the algorithm is written, you can convert it to any program language.

So don't you think Bitcoin could be partially coded by A.I.?

Written algorithm is already a program in its own right

The very process of formulating an algo doing something basically comes down to writing the sequence of actions (aka set of rules) required to arrive at a given result in some formal language. Converting it to a programming language is just another algo which translates this set of rules understandable by humans into the form understandable either by a computer directly (opcodes) or through another algo (compiler)


How's that?

I can see that as a possibility.  Satoshi and A.I.

Am I reading this correctly? If bitcoin was written by an A.I. then who wrote that A.I.?  :)
There has to be a human writer for something as big and as complex as this.

It is not right to define the concept of algorithm as software.

The software is machine commands that are created to perform certain tasks. Algorithms are not in the format the computer understands. An algorithm is a specific rules string that you define to do a job. And for each platform these rules change the sequence. The software will emerge when you code these rules for the relevant platform.

The two are different things.

Definitely a human, not an AI

I don't think that any Artificial intelligence was ever developed back in 2008. and still people are trying had to implement brain in computing system So definitely not possible. And its a easy or same task that satoshi had written to build the system but every line of the system had different logics so AI could think and make the logics possible.

Just a thought. Dan Kaminsky had said the initial bitcoin implementation was extremely painstakingly coded to prevent attacks. This amount of perfection surely isn't fully human I suppose.

I am a huge AI enthusiast and the way I look at it, I do not see the possibility of Satoshi being an AI.
I mean, in the first place, creating an AI which could code something this complex would be a challenge greater than that of creating Bitcoin.
Second, code written by such an AI would not be all that efficient, because even if such an AI was created, it would take you a huge amount of time to train it to write optimal code.
Third, AI was not as advanced as it is now during the time bitcoin was created.

P.S. Here's a thought, maybe Satoshi created an AI and named it after himself, which coded Bitcoin. XD

No I don't think so, Satoshi is impossible is an A.I because A.I can't create something that hasn't exist, in other words, A.I can't be an investor, bitcoin is the human works, it is inspired by the daily life and the dream of a currency that can be used every where and free from anyone controls

I dont believe AI can be smart like this. AI can be good but not in this way in this century.

Exactly..

Thanks!

I suppose you haven't watched Person of Interest have you? The downfall of the human race will be caused by the uprising of the machines. The current trend is to put automation in almost any device around us and connecting everything in the Internet of Things but what will happen when they turn against us? Some food for thought I guess. Skynet might turn out to be real after all  ::)

Why would you possibly think an A.I. can actually do that? and off course the developer of bitcoin is simply a human, we human are the once who make A.I.'s program it the way it do the things we want them to do and simply will obey the task that a human would say to them but surely you are thinking that a system like bitcoin is vastly great and it is really big right now that is why you simply mistook satoshi over something that can get the system done without realizing the story behind it.

You might not be far from the truth but 31,000 lines of code can as well be written by a group of individuals or a community who might have shared responsibilities and not just a machine. I think it's debatable and calls for research.

This is unlikely to happen

What is actually going to happen and in fact already happens is turning humans themselves into machine-like creatures. If we use a calculator (or just a stone axe), we are already extending our capabilities beyond what nature directly equipped us with, but here I refer to more tight integration like neural interfaces which would allow us to actually perceive these increased capabilities as an integral part of ourselves. Ultimately, the living neurons themselves could be replaced or augmented with artificial ones, more efficient and sustainable (so to speak). And that will be the end of human evolution as a biological species

Cyborgs are definitely more far-fetched and hard to construct than androids or A.I. Androids with unhindered A.I. able to act at will is actually terrifying. The problem is not with humans losing their humanity to technology slowly by replacing different parts of the body with artificial ones, but with machines having their own mind and perceiving the human race as inferior to them.
Just watch Westworld, it's another brilliant HBO production and touches on this topic of building artificial intelligence and the issues arising from it.

We don't necessarily need to completely integrate with machines and create cyborgs, we could do what we already do create machines that enable us to perform an action with the help of technology, the only difference is as technology progress we get improved capabilities, just look at computers and the internet, now most people have access to smart phones which have access to the internet and with that you have access to almost any amount of knowledge in the world.

I don't know where you find this question but Satoshi being an AI is not true ! To develop bitcoin it requires a big critical thinking skills that a human personal can only have ! It can't be processed by an AI and AI dont have the capacity to do so! , AI is and Invention and to invent something from an invention is not scientifically feasible !

So someone finally fixed the Neural Pathways on that Positronic Brain from Area 51 ,   :D

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Rather than What I think or what others think, get on with facts. It is near to impossible to solve such complicated problems and write codes for it. Humans not yet have discovered all the things yet, so an A.I. making Bitcoin is highly impossible.

satoshi could be very well not a human android or cyborg but just a bot like the one that has won at GO made with deeplearning algorithm

but again to make oen of those bot you still need an human behind it, this mean that someone has all the idea and just put it in to the bot

So according to you every complicated code longer that 31,000 lines of code is that advanced that humans cant grasp it?
First of all, lines of code is silly measurement, it literally doesn't prove anything, certainly isn't benchmark of awesomeness.
Windows 7 operating system is estimated to has 40 million lines of code, but Vista (older system) had more than 50 million lines of code.
So tell me which system is superior? The one with the more lines of code?

What kind of thinking is that of cause no one will believe if you said that the creator of bitcoin is an A.I ,Blockchain is very advanced that new kind of thinking is needed for it to works and only some few "real" human individuals are capable of that thinking , It is just like you're telling to use that the creator of google,Facebook,twitter,car,microwave oven was all created by an A.I ! Foolish to think is it ? that's how you look like when you ask questions like this.

Satoshi nakamoto is not an A.I and he will never become one ! He was a real person and A.I has no capacity to invent something from a literally an invention  , It requires creative mind and a good team so that the output will be astonishing just like bitcoin is ! Bitcoin will never be created by an A.I it was a product of different mind and ideas ! Satoshi nakamoto is not just a person I think but it is a group of person hiding in a one person name !

Poster of the thread is not talking about if satoshi is AI he is talking about the if satoshi had used AI to wrtie those 31000 line of code to make bitcoin. Its not that big task to write 31000 line of code for an extreme programmer and AI of such type had still been not developed that could write code.

Normally the answer would be Windows Vista(50 Million lines of codes), but if the answer is
Windows 7(40 Million lines codes) does this mean that the qualities(or is it called in another name?)
of the codes on each operating system are different? ???

I'm just curious about this!

Impossible. Someone has to code that A.I., so even if it was an A.I. someone made it, so someone made Bitcoin. Why do you tuink that it was created by a robot..? It's manmade, not something impossible to recreate. Satoshi Nakamoto probably isn't even a single man, but a group of coders.

Lines of code are not good measurement for anything other than which code is lengthier.
You can have more sophisticated code compressed into smaller package.

Beside AFAIK bitcoin source code had 3000 lines of code, not 30k (according to gmaxwell) at the very beginning.
Now, after updates, bitcoin's code is over 100k lines.

You people are busy  debating about whether Satoshi is an  AI ?
Here is the clues; AI does not mean only Artificial Intelligence. It also refer as American Intelligence. Now I am here to let you know that Satoshi Nakamoto is a Moniker. This is the first voice of Satoshi, " I am Satoshi Nakamoto; I am a Robot; I am not alone; I have a twin brother .........> " now think who that Moniker is ?

Can we have another clue?  There's only one twin of Satoshi in crypto and that's Thomas.

The thing is that currently, as far as we know, Satoshi could very much be an AI, But definitely from the future. We do not have the capabilities for an AI of this complexity. Even if the NSA or some either quiet organisation has a supercomputer, I really still doubt it.

hello , About Nakamoto did not disclose any personal information when discussing technical matters. They provided some commentary on banking and fractional reserve lending. On his P2P Foundation profile as of 2012, Nakamoto claimed to be a 37-year-old male who lived in Japan, but some speculated he was unlikely to be Japanese due to his use of perfect English and his bitcoin software not being documented or labelled in Japanese.  ;D

If he is I would be very eager to meet his developers. Microsoft could use them too, they would need some help with Tay  :P

Not yet and first time to heard it. When i googled it i get a american science fiction crime drama television series. i get your point but this is too far to the reality human will not let that to happen.

Someone had to have programmed the idea of bitcoin into the AI for it to have come up with that idea in the first place.
Also 32k of code is not really that much I'm pretty sure of that. You must habe watched too much anime before typing this post.

Thomas Nasakioto is not the twin brother of Satoshi Nakamoto. Thomas Nasakioto is a clone of Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

What does "unlikely to be Japanese due to his use of perfect English" mean?!!
I know of a Japanese woman who is around 40 years old, and she speaks more than perfect English. Do they even know the meaning of the word "bilingual"?
Besides, if someone wanted to make an international product/website/invention/whatever, what language would be appropriate for people all around the world to understand that thing? Of course, English. It's number 1, an international language that everyone is trying to learn, and it's much, much easier to be learnt.

I am not saying that he is Japanese, but rejecting the thought based on those speculations is simply absurd.

What if he is a genius and has the wealth to back it up,and what if rather than the amount of publicly known coins he might have mined a lot more like the rest of the early miners and might have made a good fortune and left the initial coins alone. One thing everyone accepts is that he is a genius.

I say non-AI, as I can relate to this individual. I've lost a devastating amount of funds that while in the past were worth just a few hundred, they could comfortably retire my entire family now... all by losing access to keys.

Or perhaps a new anonymous 1% and it is all an NWO scheme, keeping them anonymous yet still owning a major portion of funds available to the world.

I don't think he's saying that 31,000 lines is too much for a human; he's saying that it's not too much for a computer. With that aside, I don't think that there are AI's capable of writing that kind of complex code, especially when bitcoin was created in 2008. Do you know if there are code-writing AI's yet? Because I feel that logic itself is too complex for an AI to create even a fizzbuzz program, or something else simple.

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Well Satoshi Nakamoto invented bitcoin lets just put a period to that. We are currently using bitcoin and noone really ask a permission to the inventor. I think if satoshi nakamoto is an AI then thank you.

 Many speculations is running on the internet when a codename Satoshi Nakamoto invented bitcoin. Artificial intelligence is a computer or code that has a consciousness, some tech sperts says that computer power is doubled every eighteen months. So let's say way back 2008? Artificial intelligence exists? I don't think so. Android is just improving that time and quantum computing by D wave is just started way back 2011.
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Let's say that it is an artificial intelligence but who invented that A.I.? There are so many holes and lack of proof in this one. We might have a shot if it was came from what they call 8th layer of the internet (Primarch system ) an anomaly in the internet that discovered way back 2000. Creepy.

It is very complicated way back in those years to really make an artificial intelligence of A.I. but the idea is there and in every movies back then was portraying some computer intellect just like in the terminator movies, maybe there are an application back then that was not really introduce up until now but having something like that was not necessarily for bitcoin to sprout and make a name for it self, but to tell that nakamoto is an A.I. is really absurd.

Satoshi nakamoto is not an AI and reading all the pdf file/whitepaper etc. it is obvious those aims and motives are being created by a human and speaking of AI its also being created by human. Correct me if im wrong but this my strong belief that Satoshi is a human and until now its still unknown the same on his invention.

How can an Artificial intelligence or A.I made this greatest invention on the internet? That is impossible. Satoshi Nakamoto is purely a person with above A.I brain or knowledge and he just use it very well to create this kind of opportunity that we are using right now. If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I then the news will be wide spread and the team behind this bitcoin will confirm that.

No i dont think so that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I. Satoshi Nakamoto is just a pseudonym. The creator(s) of Bitcoin don't want to be identified and as brilliant as their technology works it seem very possible that he/they are clever enough to remain anonymous.

It's clear that satoshi was not an AI, it was probably one a single person, I believe this is the case because a team would be too risky since someone would reveal each other's real names, he couldn't trust anybody so he started it all himself.

How come OP that you come up with this thought or idea thinking that Satoshi Nakamoto is an Artificial Intelligence, an A.I could not be this flexible to make something like bitcoin, because there is a lot of debugging the codes or the program that has been used in bitcoin, and I am sure that an A.I could not do such thing, unless, it is on its program to do so.

But still, I don't believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, he is a genius person which don't want attractions of people because of his inventions. If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I, then there would be no people wondering or finding who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

Not even sure how this discussion got this far, Satoshi will never be an AI. He can never be an AI, because no AI is smart enough to create something like this. There are really too many factors how bitcoins got here and not really due to some AI controlling how it goes. Another thing is that I don't think there is an AI that can make something this complex. Even stupid siri can't even call my grandma.

I I dont agree that Satoshi would be an A.I.But i still admire about satoshi's talent that how he created such a revolutionary coin which has shaken the whole economic world.Im not an expert in programming language,but still could understand satoshi's talent to a little bit.

I feel like other ground breaking revolutionary tools would have been invented by now if this was the case. We dont have much other society changing examples in the last 10 years other than 3d printing and crowd funding.

I don't really think that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I,
And I think that no A.I could ever create this crypto currency.

If he really is an AI (Artificial Intelligence) What do you think is Satoshi's Plan on why he created Bitcoin? Because on the word itself it says intelligence and I don't see anything revolutionary that Bitcoin did so far except for the part that it is a highly secured currency. But what is really the main purpose of Satoshi as an AI to create such currency? If you answer it clearly or you have a solid proof he is one than I will say that Satoshi can be an AI.

If you are concerned about the complex 31,000 lines of complex codes, yes it will amaze you. However, doing that is not too hard for a human. I don't think that an AI will bother coding and invent a new form of currency just to help people in hasting money-related transactions. Satoshi Nakamoto is clearly a human being that is creative enough and intelligent enough in inventing Bitcoin.

The existence of the operating systems in our computers, in our smartphones, the algorithms used by different electronic devices, as well as the AI itself, all of them are made by human beings. So why can't Satoshi Nakamoto be, also, a human?

Well, it is not impossible for an AI to create such crypto currency. This depends on how powerful an AI is. An example of this is Google's AI, based from the article I've read, which can invent it's own cryptography. So if an AI can do such, inventing a cryptocurrency, for an AI, is a possibility.

No, it's really not.  Cryptography is not hard, it's just basic systems of ciphering and nearly any decent computer could do that, not to mention that Google is a multi-billion dollar company and Satoshi Nakamoto was obviously not.

A cryptocurrency is an invention.  AIs cannot create complex thought systems like Bitcoin, and if they could there's no reason that someone would invent an AI with several years of work and hundreds of workers just to create something else.  Satoshi was on this forum, satoshi spoke to us as a human would, and just as no other person on this forum is an AI because it makes no sense and is all but impossible, satoshi was not an AI.

Line of codes is for the quantity and not for the quality. The reason why Vista has more line of codes compared to Windows 7 is OPTIMIZATION. The developers of Windows optimized the later version (Windows 7) so that the operating system will function faster without wasting memory allocation and resources. Instead of going through 1, 2, and 3, why not go through 1 and 3 only. That's the logic there.

Example:
a = b + c
d = e * f
g = a/d

Then why not just g = (b+c)/(e*f) same thing right. So line of codes does not matter in identifying who is superior and who is inferior.

I am sure that bitcoin coding was created by an A.I because they don’t have the capability similar to a human brain. What I feel about Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who coded all the 31,000 lines and created bitcoin. Otherwise, it looks tough for a single human being, but not impossible.

However, I feel that we should not be wasting our time thinking who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Instead enjoy the fruit and let him live in peace.

A.I, the computer big bang. I don't think computer are complex enough in 2008 to be able to create a project like Bitcoin. Satoshi is more likely to be an Alien

I think that Satoshi is visionary man, genius!
He really started revolution because, for the first time in history, average or small man have chance to get rid from banks and financial institution and become free.
Such vision only man can create, not A.I.
After all, A.I. also someone have to create, isn't it?
Computers can just follow our orders but only we, human beings, are capable to create something new, out of box :)

https://i.imgur.com/kpLo7VO.jpg

If Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I., well then he/she/it must be from the future.
And if it actually right, then the one who we really should thinking about is the one who made this Artificial Intelligence.

Did you just assume Nakamoto's gender? *triggered* I'm more inclined to believe it was a group of people, no single human comes up with this

The idea of bitcoins and the block chain would have to have been programmed into the so to begin with so obviously the idea is from a human. Any idea so comes up with is because a human told it so. Computers only do what we tell them to do. They don't think they stupid. They only think because we tell them what lines of code to run at the right moment. So if you had a robot it waves when you save and doesn't do something else unless you tell it to be rude and pull the finger but that would be snother a few lines of code the so has. My point is that computers only do what you tell them to do.

It can't be helped since information about satoshi is very limited. That's what I think too because Satoshi Nakamoto is probably just a Pen name, I

mean why would the creator use his real name? Its Just that due to this, People assumed that it was a single man. The arguement about satoshi being

a single man or a group is complicated enough. Adding if satoshi was an AI is more.

 :)I really would like the creator of bitcoin to be a very advanced A.I even though it seems impossible to me. Say that it was an A.I can anyone imagine the potential of A.I's developers? On the other side if the claim of OP is real and an A.I in 2009 has created a revolutionary technology what this A.I had made nowadays? It's sure that he had settled the debate between blocksize and segwit supporters and the consensus would be a reality. So probably the bitcoin creator is not an A.I and we can continue to search the individual or group who developed it

I personally like the theory but I doubt this being true. We cannot set aside the capabilities of an A.I. but this does not appeals to me that much. The number of lines of code do not prove this theory. Any human being can actually do that, especially to programmers.

Satoshi COULD be an A.I. I suspect Vitalik Buterin created it, can't think of anyone else more capable.

It doesn't look fair that Satoshi Nakamota is an A.I, possibly the entire idea might be from a group of creative minds. Satoshi might have had the key concepts and altogether might have executed it to make a revolution in the financial industry.

Well satoshi have a great mind that is true but bitcoin truly is the revolution and I think the concept of online money introduce into the world is because of it, and how this was the concept of Nakamoto or it end up like this without a further knowledge that it will became successful like this we do not really know what really is in his mind right now!

If Vitalik Buterin created bitcoin he will come up and claim that it is his own rather than taking the claim of ETH. As explained above he is a genius who had a vision and is really sick about how the world economy is controlled by a few and in order make that change he started this project and let us respect his privacy like every common man and let him reveal his identity if and when he wants.

You may want to learn about neural networks

That's basically how human mind is set up and how the process of thinking works. There is nothing magic in this. Today's computers are just not created to "think" in the way humans do, while running software emulations are devastatingly slow since there are around 100T interconnections in human brain and all of them are working in parallel. But that doesn't mean that the same operation cannot be replicated in hardware. We are just not there yet, but ultimately we will get there and will be able to build such networks that will be orders of magnitude more powerful than human brain. This is also the answer to the note that AI cannot be smarter than its creators. Obviously, it can, and there is no magic in that either

I don't think Satoshi was A.I. in the classical sense, but Satoshi could have been the pseudonym for an early network of cryptographers, economists, gamers, and coders who were not privy to the project they were developing. A network similar to perplexcity, for example.

I believe that the word "He" used there does not pertain that Satoshi is a male but he used "He" as a form of generalization.

There is a big possibility that Nakamoto is just a code name or a group name which pertains to a group of people collaborated together and formed the Bitcoin. However, let us not set aside the possibility that single person can do this. It is possible. We do not know the full capability of a human mind so there is a possibility that Nakamoto is a single person.

We don't know who or what type of person Satoshi Nakamoto is. But thinking that he's an AI is a crazy thing, the most possible thing is that SN is just an alias and he doesn't want to show his real identity or maybe he's been here very often and just observing created threads with his name and making fun of our comments.

Bill Gates didn't develop Windows. He stopped coding in the early 80s (the firmware of the Tandy TRS-80 Model 100 portable computer was his last coding project) and focused on business only after that.

maybe ... With the blessings of ancient GNU Compiler Collection - gcc gurus  ;D 

https://www.csail.mit.edu/user/888 (https://www.csail.mit.edu/user/888)

It is possible when the one who created it is a group or a team that is very good in programming, analyzations, mathematics and science being assisted by computer and computer programs. Its not impossible in these era, even calculus and other mathematics subjects is just written by hand and by raw talent by genius mathematicians. For example is MARGARET HAMILTON the girl who wrote the code  that took America to the moon.
https://i.imgur.com/s8PuBB5.gif
Margaret Hamilton standing next to the code she wrote which took Apollo 11 to the moon.
Photo and caption is from the google

They are one in a billion or they are a miracle that only once appear in a century. Nikola tesla is one example of that. True that it's hard for computers to create bitcoin that time that is why satoshi is considered to be a genius. He is like an alien that not just think outside the box but he instead get rid of the box and created something new.

I think not! It just a name or signature name Satoshi Nakamoto of the original programmer of bitcoin.
like us, we created our name like this forum to be anonymous. he did it on purpose.
and AI is also created by programmer. If AI who created its own program and create another program! wow! that super it's genius.

Satoshi nakamoto is not an A.I he is a human that created the bitcoin and make this huge evolution for the financial system that we have now. If satoshi nakamoto is just an A.I then this kind of quality of bitcoin will not be reached. Satoshi nakamoto is a screen of the real person because he wants to protect his identity and out to trouble.

No one can really tell for sure the whereabouts or the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, so we also can't tell if this person is an A.I. or not but if he is an A.I. though for sure he/she is created by a human. And I'm sure the reason why the identity is kept it's because a lot of people would then stalk or harass especially now that the bitcoin is far from what he had expected. So I doubt, that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I.

Answers can be found in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK2jkkB2yyc&t=4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK2jkkB2yyc&t=4s)