Is Satoshi Nakamoto an A.I.?

[LeGaulois]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

Seriously?, A.I is a Artificial Intelligence, which is made by human. So, how come that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I who created the bitcoin? My point here is, let's just say that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I and the one who made bitcoin, my question is, Is he the one that really made bitcoin?, No, right? Because Satoshi Nakamoto wouldn't be there in the first place if no one made him or program him, right? So, technically, the one who made bitcoin is the one who created Satoshi Nakamoto, if I'm not mistaken, well, we are just assuming that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I here, because he is really not an A.I.

We don't even know if Nakamoto is an individual or group of individuals

Or even a government agency which developed Bitcoin for some not quite clear ends. On the other hand, the idea behind AI is that it should be evolving, so it is wrong to assume that if it finds or designs something on its own, it is necessarily the creator of it who is behind these developments. If it really were so, humans themselves wouldn't be possible since any human being (or any other living being known to us so far, for that matter) basically develops from just one cell which has no intelligence whatsoever. Even self-learning neural networks wouldn't be possible in that case

Yeah, i also think about this sometimes, specially after i found this below. I think, it is totally relevant to their politics ideologies and what they did in the past and still continue. It fits perfectly their needs. And it is totally their style to act under a false flag

October 31, 1996 HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas
National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology
Cryptology Division
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

international Monetary Fund (IMF) : One World, One Currency: Destination or Delusion? November 8, 2000
http://www.imf.org/external/np/tr/2000/tr001108.htm

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[sugarbaby]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I think you should put less weed and more tobacco 

[fikihafana]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

I dont think satoshi is an AI, and AI dont have brain power, you are lot of watch fantasy film

[LuanX3]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

Seriously?, A.I is a Artificial Intelligence, which is made by human. So, how come that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I who created the bitcoin? My point here is, let's just say that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I and the one who made bitcoin, my question is, Is he the one that really made bitcoin?, No, right? Because Satoshi Nakamoto wouldn't be there in the first place if no one made him or program him, right? So, technically, the one who made bitcoin is the one who created Satoshi Nakamoto, if I'm not mistaken, well, we are just assuming that Satoshi Nakamoto is an A.I here, because he is really not an A.I.

We don't even know if Nakamoto is an individual or group of individuals

Or even a government agency which developed Bitcoin for some not quite clear ends. On the other hand, the idea behind AI is that it should be evolving, so it is wrong to assume that if it finds or designs something on its own, it is necessarily the creator of it who is behind these developments. If it really were so, humans themselves wouldn't be possible since any human being (or any other living being known to us so far, for that matter) basically develops from just one cell which has no intelligence whatsoever. Even self-learning neural networks wouldn't be possible in that case

Yeah, i also think about this sometimes, specially after i found this below. I think, it is totally relevant to their politics ideologies and what they did in the past and still continue. It fits perfectly their needs. And it is totally their style to act under a false flag

October 31, 1996 HOW TO MAKE A MINT: THE CRYPTOGRAPHY OF ANONYMOUS ELECTRONIC CASH
Laurie Law, Susan Sabett, Jerry Solinas
National Security Agency Office of Information Security Research and Technology
Cryptology Division
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

international Monetary Fund (IMF) : One World, One Currency: Destination or Delusion? November 8, 2000
http://www.imf.org/external/np/tr/2000/tr001108.htm

Good read. For sure satoshi is not an AI, but maybe something the governments create to test out something. Too much secrets the governments hide and we don't even know if they are really doing this because for sure it is top secret. One of these days we'll just be surprised that they are releasing a perfect cryptocurrency.

[andrei56]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

31 thousand lines of code may sound like a lot but the truth is, in terms of length that is not much many games probably have millions of lines of code and those games were developed by humans, besides developing an AI that could write those lines of code is probably more difficult than for a human to write the lines of code.

[TastyChillySauce00]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

31 thousand lines of code may sound like a lot but the truth is, in terms of length that is not much many games probably have millions of lines of code and those games were developed by humans, besides developing an AI that could write those lines of code is probably more difficult than for a human to write the lines of code.

That's right. And for example, according to this site: https://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-2-billion-lines-codeand-one-place/, it's clearly be said that google which developed by "human" contain about 2 Billion lines of code.
To make an AI which could build bitcoin from scratch, It must have strong logic and until now it's proven that human can't develop an AI that thinks by itself and could invent complicated thing such as bitcoin.
Therefore, assuming Satoshi Nakamoto as an A.I just doesn't make sense, I would prefer the theory that said Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of developers.

[Qartersa]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

31 thousand lines of code may sound like a lot but the truth is, in terms of length that is not much many games probably have millions of lines of code and those games were developed by humans, besides developing an AI that could write those lines of code is probably more difficult than for a human to write the lines of code.

That's right. And for example, according to this site: https://www.wired.com/2015/09/google-2-billion-lines-codeand-one-place/, it's clearly be said that google which developed by "human" contain about 2 Billion lines of code.
To make an AI which could build bitcoin from scratch, It must have strong logic and until now it's proven that human can't develop an AI that thinks by itself and could invent complicated thing such as bitcoin.
Therefore, assuming Satoshi Nakamoto as an A.I just doesn't make sense, I would prefer the theory that said Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of developers.

Great facts there. We're far from building an AI that would probably even chat with us with great accuracy let alone an AI that can rule the world terminator style. This really debunks the main issue of this thread. It is just really impossible as of now to create such a smart AI. If it did exist I don't think we will co-exist with it.

[RealBitcoin]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

No.

Satoshi was a poor programmer, and the first code was very crappy, full of bugs and huge errors.

He may have been a good mathematician or economist to invent Bitcoin, but his coding and technical skills were very poor.

If he had been an AI, he would have already implemented an automatic blocksize increase inside the code, and not wait for others to do it.

The code would have been more automatic and self-evolving, sort of like an AI itself, a "smart code".

He was 100% human, because he made many mistakes. AI dont make mistakes.

[Papa Bear]

I think Satoshi Nakamoto is not A.I well as in other user say are still too many shortcomings to convince others that there He is a program

[Xester]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

This is  weird but a new kind of idea. Though it might be possible that a group had made an artificial intelligence that is responsible for creating bitcoins. That maybe a good idea but that would be impossible for the moment since bitcoin was created even before 2009 and Artificial Intelligence is not existing at that time and even at this time.

[darkangel11]

Most likely not. I think there's still no A.I. capable of inventing anything by itself in 2017. Chances such computer existed in 2008 or earlier are very slim.
There's no reason to doubt that bitcoin was created by a human mind. Maybe it wasn't one person, but a group. A.I? Definitely no.

[Dudeperfect]

I don’t see any possibility of bitcoin’s invention by A.I. Today, A.I cannot even write a good meaningful poetry and writing such lines of code is not possible at least on this stage of A.I evolution. Alternatively, building such A.I is far difficult than building actual bitcoin so I don’t think there is even 1% probability of A.I contribution in inventing bitcoin.

[Dream 1000 BTC]

No, he is not, he can write a whitepaper, and code without a bug, why do you think he is A.I? He is our God, and a sage invented bitcoin, let us rich. 

[TechnoYogi]

I retract my claim. Satoshi Nakamoto is definitely a human(or trying to act like one). A genius at that. He made two mistakes in his posts: walkthough and idealogical. So what if he had invented an A.I. with which he created a bitcoin. He would have obviously made mistakes or made inelegant code just to throw us off. How about that?

With this hypothesis, we can safely say self recursively improving A.I. existed since 2008/2009. But we have not found a way to make it. Whereas Satoshi made it and used it on his own accord. But then the question again is "Who is Satoshi?".

I would say a supernatural being in the garb of a human male with human lingo. He was trying to be relevant just to throw us off.

But why did he do it? Is it a part of the grand scheme of things? We may never know...

[deisik]

I retract my claim. Satoshi Nakamoto is definitely a human(or trying to act like one). A genius at that. He made two mistakes in his posts: walkthough and idealogical. So what if he had invented an A.I. with which he created a bitcoin. He would have obviously made mistakes or made inelegant code just to throw us off. How about that?

With this hypothesis, we can safely say self recursively improving A.I. existed since 2008/2009. But we have not found a way to make it. Whereas Satoshi made it and used it on his own accord. But then the question again is "Who is Satoshi?"

There is no problem to create a self learning AI

The theories behind machine learning had been properly developed some 40-50 years ago. The main problem is that it is often not worth doing it. In most real world cases you will get better results with less costs by logic being hard coded (explicit programming), i.e. either by directly employing some quantitative theory already existing in the field of your interest or by using statistical approach (when you can't rely on such a theory)

[st0nefish]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

Satoshi A.I. It was not.
Today,  There are studies poetry and film scenario writing with A.I.
I do not know any artificial intelligence programs that write their own program? But what is needed for this is to write the algorithm. Once the algorithm is written, you can convert it to any program language.

[TechnoYogi]

I retract my claim. Satoshi Nakamoto is definitely a human(or trying to act like one). A genius at that. He made two mistakes in his posts: walkthough and idealogical. So what if he had invented an A.I. with which he created a bitcoin. He would have obviously made mistakes or made inelegant code just to throw us off. How about that?

With this hypothesis, we can safely say self recursively improving A.I. existed since 2008/2009. But we have not found a way to make it. Whereas Satoshi made it and used it on his own accord. But then the question again is "Who is Satoshi?"

There is no problem to create a self learning AI

The theories behind machine learning had been properly developed some 40-50 years ago. The main problem is that it is often not worth doing it. In most real world cases you will get better results with less costs by logic being hard coded (explicit programming), i.e. either by directly employing some quantitative theory already existing in the field of your interest or by using statistical approach (when you can't rely on such a theory)

So don't you think Bitcoin could be partially coded by A.I.?

[deisik]

Couldn't Satoshi Nakamoto be an A.I. Bitcoin's implementation was certainly complex involving 31,000 lines of code. Bitcoin was probably created by an A.I. What do you guys think?

Satoshi A.I. It was not.
Today,  There are studies poetry and film scenario writing with A.I.
I do not know any artificial intelligence programs that write their own program? But what is needed for this is to write the algorithm. Once the algorithm is written, you can convert it to any program language

Written algorithm is already a program in its own right

The very process of formulating an algo doing something basically comes down to writing the sequence of actions (aka set of rules) required to arrive at a given result in some formal language. Converting it to a programming language is just another algo which translates this set of rules understandable by humans into the form understandable either by a computer directly (opcodes) or through another algo (compiler)

There is no problem to create a self learning AI

The theories behind machine learning had been properly developed some 40-50 years ago. The main problem is that it is often not worth doing it. In most real world cases you will get better results with less costs by logic being hard coded (explicit programming), i.e. either by directly employing some quantitative theory already existing in the field of your interest or by using statistical approach (when you can't rely on such a theory)

So don't you think Bitcoin could be partially coded by A.I.?

How's that?

[Vlad2Vlad]

So don't you think Bitcoin could be partially coded by A.I.?

I can see that as a possibility.  Satoshi and A.I.

[drwtsn32]

Am I reading this correctly? If bitcoin was written by an A.I. then who wrote that A.I.? 
There has to be a human writer for something as big and as complex as this.