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Hey everyone,

A number of PHP developers (Sliver, Edison, C4N10 and myself, ViperAus) have been working together to create a Litecoin edit of Slush0's Stratum. We believe we have the code right and so I thought I'd test on FeatherCoin due to the current low difficulty meaning more blocks should go through the system compared to Litecoin. I have just uploaded everything today and it looks good so far - even have 1 block reward already; now I just want to pressure test the machine to see where else we can make some improvements before we release the code into the public domain.

Please help us test this code

You will need to jump on the website (http://www.altpool.com) and register; and then point your mining clients to our server:

stratum+tcp://mine.altpool.com:3333/

Any FeatherCoin that is found, will be paid out - I am also planning to release the front end code once we know all the functions are working correctly.

If you would also like to support our work; you can join up to my litecoin pool: www.mineltc.com

UPDATE:

THIS IS A PPLNS POOL, NOT PPS
Please do not expect shares to be credited to your account until after that block was found.

UPDATE 2:
From Page 8.

Alrighty; sorry for the delay in this last update.

Looking at the poll results, it appears that the general consensus is to create the site with MMCFE.

I am happy to say I have now done this on a temporary server which has been offered to me by the supplier of my new server whilst awaiting it to be setup. Hopefully the full server will be online in a day or two.

In the mean time, if you want to join up on the new site and start mining on this temp box please feel free to do so. Any members that join in the next 48 hours will have their account set to 0% pool fee for the next month.

I have also added in a few tweaks with the stratum server; the main one that affects users is that miner details are now being validated.

Website: http://fc.altpool.com
Stratum connection: stratum+tcp://fc.altpool.com:3333/
Getwork connection: http://fc.altpool.com:8336/

I have only just literally uploaded the site and am yet to add content back into the pages; I shall get to this in the next 24 hours.

As this is also a new site, many functions are as yet untested and there may be a few bugs from the original developer, but so far from my testing everything looks good.

I'm mining with you!

Any idea how long this pool will be up?

Hey man, slight issue. My hashrate in stats is shown as Hashrate: 0 KH/s, even tho worker hash rate is shown. Whats up? Also how do I see my "unapproved/unconfirmied" balance?

Two problems.
Well, one problem really, but it results in two problems.

I cannot change the name or number of my worker. I get an error message saying " Authorization Pin is Invalid! " whenever I try.
This results in both my workers username being just "username.", and when I connect using that, my shares are not updated.

been mining on this pool for a bit, got a few payments in short time, i like it :)

I had this issue. The pool is currently stratum only, so the address needs to be.

stratum+tcp://mine.altpool.com:3333/

This fixed the problem for me.

Now its fine :D

Edit: Well it was fine now again :O Altho the pool is amazing!

I have the same question

PW change does not work. Says my current pw is wrong, but its not.

Been mining here since a few hours. Got good payouts. Nice work!

Edit: The stats do not update as they should though. I get shares but my hashrate is 0 kh/s according to the stats and the round shares are 40000 but a block is found a few minutes ago

So far so good in getting connected and mining here - only issue was that I definitely had the wrong password for my worker and it still registered. Could be because I only have one, but just a though :)

Also - balance hasn't updated for quite a bit, wish we could see last blocks w/ confs 0=)

Thanks for the support :) - For as long as I can afford the payments on the server :)



This should now be fixed, please let me know if you have any other issues :)


Not all of the scripts are perfect yet - i shall look into the issue of the hashrate not displaying in the header as soon as possible.
At the moment, you can see some of the details on "My Stats" page - more stats will be added as you will see on that page.


Thanks for the kind words :) Im editing it live to work out some of the kinks as quickly as possible, but sometimes i break things ... whoops... Just let me know of any other bugs/issues you come across and I will address them as soon as I can :)


Thanks for letting me know, I shall add that to my to fix list :)


Thanks  :)  Current issue with the stats I believe is partly due to the blocks coming in so quickly and only some of the stats system has run. Once the block is confirmed, then the stats system finishes running and the stats get better. I will look into this to see if I can improve the system.


Im not actually sure that I enabled password checking for miners lol - check out the bottom of the pool stats page for the last blocks list ;)

How big are your server costs atm?

Ha! That'd be why then =P

http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:5750/block/b431aaf146e0940d54fc107b18a1477e6d76809ef4236be6a2a068c0f90e0f7e

Can you open that? Looks like the links are bad, or maybe it's just me...

Also, I've got shares on all these last blocks, balance = 0 still :(

Blocks need 120 confirms before your balance updates. Give it some time.

I understand that - check this out (only reason I'm concerned)
https://i.imgur.com/EBmgcTo.png

**EDIT** - this is my bad, I was reading round shares as shares I'd submitted, so either these numbers are off or somewhere else is, because my lifetime shares doesn't add up to these numbers =p

is pool located in NY?

Balance hasn't updated for quite some time. Have no idea how much I gonna get - so I am like a kid at Christmas.

Payouts seem to be several times more than the other (Simple Pool) - any idea why?

Right now, $40USD / month


Didn't open for me either - looks like that server might be having issues. It did work when the guy posted his site in the forum, ill see if i can let him know..



Looking into the payouts, i think I know what may be going on, but being that its so late now, I dont want to start doing the math and make more mistakes. I will definitely look into this properly tomorrow after some rest and make any additional payouts as required - not here to rip anyone off, just here to test that the software works :)



The server is, yes; but run by me, an Aussie :)

Thanks viper, very re-assuring :) I'll continue here even if I don't see anything until you get your rest and have some time to check it out tomorrow!

Thanks for staying on top of things!

mining with you !

Something seems to be wrong.
Ive been mining here all day (10+ rounds) and still no FC.
The graph on the page sais i hash, the account details say worker hashes.
Worker info in black blox on top of page sais no hashes and no FC.

Is this normal?

I've been mining on my person rig since last night and have gotten payouts every hour. My business mining rig started earlier today and still no payout.  Confirms are taking forever which is the problem I think.

Hmm.,., Thanks for the info.

+1, same for me but joined the pool not too long ago.

I'm still having the same issue - viper posted a bit ago and said he'd take a look once he gets some sleep. he has an idea as to why it might be doing this.

My shares went up, shares went down, but my balance stayed at 0 and no payout. I moved to another pool for now.

Seems to be the long wait for confirms - I just was paid for minings this morning.

120 confirms and at the current rate it's over 4 hours.

THIS IS A PPLNS POOL, NOT PPS

Please do not expect shares to be credited to your account until several hours until after that block was found.

Once the proper time had passed after I started mining, my account was credited properly and payouts were exactly as expected.

This is a solid pool with extremely low reject rate and its going to be tough to find something better than this.

Started getting my payouts for my main rig. upped donation to 3%.  Thanks for the awesome server.

Hashrate shows zero?

But shares are being counted.

Name: Gunni

took a few minutes for me before it showed a hashrate, shares counted instantly.. payouts as expected.

Aside the visual items.. the pool is working exactly as expected.
Shares are counted, payments credited, and I even requested a manual payout and it was instant.

Excellent pool!
Thank you!!  ;D

Oh hell... I am gonna have to change my avatar...

Will GuiMiner scrypt alpha work?
I can't get that or ScryptMiner to work.

It's probably something simple im over looking.

thanks

Got it to Work in GUIMiner-script alpha

Host:  mine.altpool.com
Use stratum   Yes
Port:   3333
Username:  user.whatever
Password:  whatever you put into the server

Thanks for the support :)


I think you may be correct, im going to look into this further today and hopefully get a table in the my stats page of pending/completed payments - this should help reduce peoples confusion as to where their payments are.


Thanks for your help :)


Thanks for your comments - helps to clarify what the issue appears to be :) I have also updated my first post to help clarify the PPS/PPLNS status


:) No worries


No worries :) glad to hear the manual payment works - i must admit, i had not tested it :)


Glad to hear you got it working :) - any issues you come across, let me know and Ill do my best to fix as quickly as I can

Hi, throwing some hashes your way  :)

I can't connect to the website, "can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"

Same here - though shares are still getting accepted.

I managed to finally get through....barely, lol. Shares were accumulating and I had lots of coin in the bank, must just be massive lag..ddos, etc.

site is working for me but veeeeery slow :) will send some hashing to this pool later on again :)

Currently working on the server so it may exhibit strangeness and errors whilst I am playing :)

The root of the issue is probably poor scripting for writing shares into the db (none of us guys working on stratum are python programmers so we've just slapped a few simple lines in at the moment) and this is causing mysql to max out the cpu.

Due to being maxed out; and shares seeming to take precedence over requests for the website, the server has to wait for a spot to run its query (and usually a number of queries depending on which page your requesting - some of which probably need a bit of optimizing), and then compile the php page - at least thats what it looks like to me.

If anyone wants to help keep this server online, please feel free to pm me and I can let you know details where to send donations; any amount will be greatly appreciated and with enough support, I will be able to upgrade the machine.

Current Specs ($40/m): 4GB Memory, 2 Core CPU, 60GB SSD Disk
Next level ($80/m):  8GB Memory, 4 Core CPU, 80GB SSD Disk

PM'd you with a good offer :)

EDIT: forgot to add this to the PM,
you'd get 5 IPs too, and could install proxmox on the server, create multiple large VMs on it for your LTC pool and FeatherCoin pool :)

Now, with the site lagging, do you, guys get any transactions ? In the last two and a half hours- I don't...
edit. I just recieved it. Thank you.

Hello admin i see you are paying way too much on hosting here

 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770
- Cores: 8
- Frequency: 3.40GHz
- RAM: 3072 MB DDR3 ECC
- Hard disk: 200 GB SATA3

Can get you that for $40 a month, Also do smaller packages too but that's one of the higher end ones

Just a guess, thats in Germany ?

I can barely load up the website. :(

Down now :/

Sorry everyone - I have had to stop the Apache service to help clear the backlog of scripts that are running at the moment.

Once the backlog has cleared up, I will then be able to make a few changes (that I can see already), to help optimize the block update and payout scripts. Once these are working again in a timely fashion, then I will be able to restart Apache so you can then login to the site once again. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Please be aware that shares are still being accepted and recorded, it is just the script that is reading this data that is taking forever to run, which then slows down any following requests.

This should help,
Switch from Apache to Cherokee or Nginx

They both are lighter on resources and use far less CPU than others.

I'm not too sure about this part though,
Increase the cron frequency ? If its live every 5 minutes now, increase it to every 2 mins ?
That way your backlog will keep clearing out ?

Thanks, I shall look into those :)

I dont think it is actually Apache itself that is the problem. Just sloppy coding I think - the cron frequency was the problem - it was running a script that is taking over 30mins to run each time, and running it every 2 mins. Hence as time goes by, more and more versions of the script are running at the same time, making everything else slow down - sort of like trying to open hundreds of windows of firefox, and only closing 1 out of every 100 you open :)

For the moment, I will run the scripts manually to try and debug and optimise the code, but i need to wait for the existing backlog of scripts to finish running so that share data does not get misplaced along the way :)

and US

Nice, that CPU is pretty good :) I guess WSI DC in Kansas ?

So did I lose all the shares I submitted since 4am EST? Seems like that was my last payout.

Otherwise, the pool is very nice.

Any news admin? I dont get paid since 5 and half hours ago, website is still down, but everything used to work perfectly.

Thanks for your efforts in keeping the pool working!

So far (as far as I can tell) no share data has been lost so once the scripts catch up payouts will resume again



Still working on it - ive optimised a portion of the code, just going through some manual checks now - still needs more work, but looking better. Hopefully get the front end back up in a couple of hours.

Thanks for your patience everybody.

Thanks man for your efforts, still keeping my hashrate at your pool to support it!

I am not fully sure I would have to ask or can check theri detials out as  only know bits and bobs lol. PM sent

Hi viperaus, any updates? tried accessing the frontend, but it's just blank  ???

Any ETA on when all will be up and running again? :)

The site doesn t work

Yeah, would be nice to know what's up.

I see shares accepted (1,5% stales) but website down and no payments.

I am like a kid at Christmas waiting to see how much Coins I have made  :P

yup. that's been going on since yesterday.

Hehe., well, you're the 3rd person already.
There is no shame in numbers :)

Admin, it would be nice to have an update.

I'ts currently 8:23 AM in Australia and he's probably at work, so don't expect an update for a few hours ::)

Sorry for the delay - fell asleep while waiting for one of the scripts to run.. Now Im awake again, I will be working on the issue for as long as it takes to get it fixed.


Thanks for letting people know :)

I will try to update every couple of hours or when I pass through some of the hurldles I am facing :) - I understand everyone is anxious to make sure they are still getting paid out/check balance etc and I will do my utmost to get this issue fixed as soon as I can.


So to explain what is going on at this point.

The script that checks for new found blocks now runs within a 5 - 10 minute window depending upon how many blocks have been found (more blocks in that period = longer running time).

This script used to calculate the shares for the round, and update the user database with that number. As the number of blocks coming through is quite high at the moment, the script was taking forever (about 5 mins per block) to run.

To remedy this, I removed the update share portion of the script to increase block data processing time.

In doing so, I believe that some of the payment calculations (based upon the share data - which is no longer being updated) have incorrectly counted the number of shares for last round/current round; this has had a negative effect to the accountBalance of users.

I have now dumped the required data and will be manually confirming a number of transactions to work out where the payment issue has started and from that point, I will calculate the correct payments and update the database.

I have disabled the front end due to this payment issue as I do not want users to come into their account, notice an errornous payment, and cashout - leaving the pool with insufficient funds to payout everyone their correct amount.

I understand that this issue can throw some doubt my way and may make users feel like their work is for nothing. I assure you that I really am not worried about the FC and will not run off with it - and I will do my best to ensure all work is paid out correctly. My concern is to have a working front and back end system that can be installed/operated by almost anyone.

I appreciate everyones patience and continued hashing during this period - please be aware I am only 1 person, and I do have to work, shop, eat, sleep etc. but getting this system running properly is one of my primary goals and I will put as much time into it as I can.

Hey Viper, no idea if this is possible - I know you're real busy but...

I sent you a PM about an issue I am having with my wallet and the pool. If you could assist me, it'd be fantastic. Thanks!

Site is now back up - to a degree.

To ensure everything is working correctly, for the next couple of hours I will be manually running the block find script and update account balance script. The auto payment script is still disabled, so if you want to cash out, please do so manually.

During this time, I will be recoding some of the stats to remove any slow database queries and where possible, optimize the code; so please do not be alarmed if you click on my stats, account details etc and no page exists. That means I am yet to finish the updates. :)

I have manually updated everybody's account, thankfully there have only been a handful of over payments and if those miners decide not to come back, I will cop that on the chin as a learning experience, however if they do continue to mine, their account will be a negative amount until they work off what was overpaid.

If you feel that my calculations are wrong, please feel free to contact me and I will run another query to confirm (but please know that i ran it 3 times just to make sure the numbers were correct - but hey, I'm human and i do make mistakes :))

I do again apologize for the extended downtime on the site - there were a number of reasons i needed to take it down, the two main reasons being; a) stop excess mysql queries (ppl loading stats page etc), b) to stop new users joining and compounding the problem

Thanks to those that continued mining during this time :)

No problem :D We know its hard doing everything when you're all. And lawl I see it was good I stayed on the pool, got somewhat 360FC.

:D - Glad to hear you got a nice update to your balance - I will be working on the account details page first so that those users that wish to do a manual payment can do so; but I think its dinner time now that Ive finally gotten somewhere so please dont expect this for an hour or two - thanks everyone :)

Thanks for getting this back up. I can see my account balance of 831 FC for yesterday. Looking forward to hitting the withdrawal button :)

Warning - manual payments currently untested.

If you try to process payment now, it may not work and there is a small possibility of FC going missing. Please wait until confirmation from me before requesting a payout.

I am looking for someone to help me test this feature as I do not have a personal wallet as yet (too busy trying to fix things :))

What I propose is: you will jump on irc/msn/skype (whichever you prefer), let me know your user name. I will then set your balance to 1FC. Then you will request a payout. If you encounter errors, let me know so I can fix; if all good (as I hope it should be), then I will reinstate the full balance and you can keep the 1FC as a gift :)  - if it goes the other way and fails, I will cop the 1FC loss, fix any errors and we try again.

UPDATE: Payment has been tested by a user and confirmed as recieved so should be all good to go :)

Hey!
Good to see the site back!
 ;D

I just tested it with my 831 coins which have now come through :)

I read your post after pressing withdrawal!

To confirm on my behalf, withdrawal works perfectly.

Yes, withdrawal went smooth. I had to pay ~0.25FC fee though instead of the 0.1FC

Thanks for confirming this guys :) - looks like a few other ppl have cashed out as well :)

Now to fix the stats - that will have to wait till tomorrow though as I am quite tired now. At least the basic operations of the site are running again :D


Im guessing that probably includes the pool fee of 2%? Would that sound about right - 0.15 pool fee, 0.1 transaction fee?

Sounds right! Forgot about the fee. Just wanted to give you some feedback  ;)

It seems I got overpaid. My ballance is -71.05xxxxx FC. I switched to other crypto for now. Can you, please, check it and if I really got overpaid- I'll send you those coins from my wallet.
user: users

Hey, Im just crawling into bed - I shall make sure to check your account tomorrow and will let you know my findings :)

How long has it been since this pool hit a block?

As Im currently running the scripts manually, its hard to say. Looking at the timestamps, is looks like 1 every 10mins approx.


Things seem to be running smoothly, so i will be setting them to run automatically sometime today :)

Looking forward to the site going on auto.

Me too :D

offline again?

So, is the site still down or just running incredibly slow?

I'd like to access my funds now ( or at least check my balance ). Please and thank you.

Its running but has slowed down. Seems the server gives up when the owner goes to sleep  ;D

Yes, it seems everything is VERY VERY slow. Though mining still keeps running fine. Let's wait...

Round Shares: 40333 (14.4% stale) ?

I haven't been getting many stales. Generally at about a %.3 stale rate

Site down again :(

Site is up and working as always.  Even when the site has been down, shares have still accumulated and paid out.  Thanks admin :)

+1 for this pool. pays out fairly and accurately, just mild website issues is the only downside.

Running really slow.


Haven't fixed the stale calculation yet - sorry.


OK, so even after optimizing some of the code (still a lot more to go through though) I find (as do a lot of others) that the website is always very slow to load. I will be shopping around today to find a beefier server and once setup there, hopefully this issue will disappear.

This pool was originally just to test the stratum server was working, accepting shares and sending upstream for confirmations; well, that side of the test has been a huge success - and even with the front end lagging, it seems that the mining side remains unaffected which is another plus.

Now if I can get the front end running at a decent speed, I think I will have a reasonably stable pool; and then this will be able to be duplicated for any crypto based upon scrypt (ie: litecoin, feathercoin)

Thanks again for everyones support and please stay tuned to the front page of the site (and/or this forum) for news as to when the change over will occur.

Is the site updating coins automatically now?  I ask because on my personal account it's adding coins as it's supposed to.  However on my business account I've had it on for nine hours or so now and nothing has been added.  Why the difference between the two accounts? (And to everyone reading this, I'm not worried about getting my FC, just wondering why the difference in accounts)

Hope the website speeds up soon! Nice pool ^^

Yes, the site is processing block updates and balance updates every 15 10 minutes now. This should be updating all accounts at the same time, so i would expect your business account to have updated. Please let me know the miner details (PM me) and I look into the problem for you.


Thanks - me too :)

Hey everyone. I have just placed an order with another data center to get a better deal on a faster machine. This should help improve the response time of the site. In the mean time (will take approx 48 hours to setup at the data center) I am going to take this site down and do a temporary update. This should only take about 15 to 20 minutes, in which time all network connections (ie: website and mining) will be off-line.

I will be performing this update in approx 2 hours so please be prepared to temporarily switch to another pool.

Server is now offline - doing a backup and then will increase the ram/cpu. Once completed (approx 20 mins) everything should be back to normal and hopefully more responsive :)

Server is now back online.

Site is really slow, I can't see my own stats and my balance is still 0.0000000 after several hours of mining at >3Mh/s hashrate.

On top of that I'm constantly logged out when changing pages and I can only occasionally reach my account page.

Please tell me why this is and when we can expect to be able to view our own stats.

the web server is slow.  probably due to unanticipated load.  FC became very popular over the weekend.  mining seems to be unaffected.  I get very little stale or rejects.

As to why your balance is 0.  The pool requires 120 confirmations.  Which is high right now but will go down over time.  SO it will take a while before the shares are confirmed and the coins paid out to you.  No need to worry.

The site is still really slow due to a number of bugs in the code and also that the server it is running on is not built for this type of system. I have dissabled some of the offending code for the moment but have not isolated all of the issues yet.

When you look at the header, you will notice some of the information is missing, this is part of the code i have disabled. The important things I have left intact for the moment while trying to fix the other issues.

As for your constant logging out, I cannot explain that unless you have something that is clearing your cookies.

I will try and get everything fixed as soon as I can; I cannot give a timeframe as I do not know how long each day i can spend working on this site and how deep the flaws run.


Thanks for trying to help explain :) You are correct, the server was a simple test box so see if stratum was working. I did not expect the number of users that have jumped onboard nor the amount of traffic this site is getting. As per one of my last posts, I have a new server on the way to help with this issue - combine that with some better coding (once i nut that all out :)) then the pool will run a heck of a lot better than it currently does.

As you mention; mining appears to be unaffected, it is only the front end that has such a slow response.

thanks for the update.  How soon before we can expect to see payout and share stats.

My concern as well is that I'm getting fractional FCs in my Wallet about every 5 minutes reporting as mined but I don't have any workers elsewhere.  Just the 3 at http://www.altpool.com.

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I've been mining for ~7 hours now, and seeing the blockrate the 120 confirms take no more than 4. Yet my balance is still 0.000000

Would be a shame if you actually also disabled the payout code.

It is a bit worrysome to read that the pool is actually really bugged and I'm not as confident that my earnings will be or are being calculated properly. I'm going to suspend mining at your pool if I don't see any balance popping up soon, and probably look for another pool.

I advise to not start one if you don't have its vital functions up and running yet.

been throwing 1.5m+ for 4 hours, nothing except shares on each block seems to get counted, too bad since you got extremely low stalerate

My balance is still increasing. I am confident you guys will get your payouts. Day before yesterday when the site was down we kept the faith and was rewarded with a lump sum in the end.

I'm contributing  3,550 kH/s to the pool.  Estimates should be 1000/FC per day.  My balance is only growing 1FC every 30 minutes. 

I'll have to wait and see what happens in the next 8 hours then.

Fucking. Bullshit.

Gave the guy 9 horus of 3MH/s hashing power, and got 0.00000 to show for it (expected was supposed to be >300FC)

So yes, I've pulled out and if I don't get paid for my work in the next days i'm throwing a scammer tag out there.

I don't think it is a scam just yet. They seem to have had a similar problem on their ltc coin pool.


http://connect.mineltc.com/

Nonetheless these delays are unacceptable too. Feathercoin is practically identical to litecoin, there should be no problems in his 'scripts' that he fixed in the LTC pool.

The mere fact that he pulled a similar stunt on his other pool leads me to believe that something fishy is going on.

viperaus were you able to fully fund your miners in your ltc coin pool or did they loose the coins they were supposed to get?

Maybe we can hunt down some of the ltc pool members at the time and see what their experience was.  I"m sure we could search the forum and see how it was handled.

I'd say everyone switch to another pool or go solo for as long as this guy doesn't have his shit handled properly.

viperaus, check your msgs  :)

Its 9am in Australia, I think - he may not have woken up by now.

looks like stats has started updating.  it looks like its just under serious lag.  I'm anticipating a payout soon.

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/3233/21262216.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/21262216.png/)

I pulled my miners from altpool yesterday. Gave 1Mh/s of hashing power for 12+ hours and nothing to show for it but a ton of useless shares. Went solo and scored 2 blocks...not a bunch, but better than the goose egg I earned for my time and energy at altpool.

I'll be back when (if) you get it running smoothly.

The payout is manual.

Ahh well that explains it.  He doesn't have the script built for automatic payout then.  No worries then.  I'm confident that he'll work through the rough start.

I understand your concern and wont blame you if you decide to move to another pool. As I have stated before, this was just supposed to be a test of the back end (stratum); I had no idea how bad some of the code was on the front end side and I agree, I should not have gone public with it until it was all confirmed as working correctly. But how do I do this without testing? So I needed some miners to get the blocks ticking over. Now as it has grown so quickly, I am unable to keep on top of everything and currently I am considering taking down the entire pool as it is becoming more of a nightmare everyday. I am spending more and more time each day answering PM's then actually fixing the issues.

I have not disabled the balance update code, only the auto payout code. This will be re-enabled today.


Ive just checked the database this was my findings;

The scripts are taking forever to run still - as I have said before; and this is still something I am trying to work through.

I do not appreciate the accusation of 'scammer' when I am doing as much as I can do, whilst trying to keep everyone as informed as I can as to what is going on. Maybe if I wasnt responding, different story. I would appreciate it if you made a retraction (and an appolgy wouldnt go astray either) :)


The other site is also experiencing issues - as altpool has a greater number of users/block finds, I feel it is more important to fix this site first and then move all the updates across to mineltc. I will then have to go through any payouts that have been made there already and make sure that everything is up to scratch.


Your right, I'm normally working late into the night and dont normally get to start working on altpool till 1130-1200ish


Looking at the database, it appears all the blocks you mined in have been rewarded.


Thanks for pointing that out - i will re-enable the auto payout code today.

I started mining this forum around 24 hours ago. It took around 14 hours or so until I received my first coins in a lump sum of 50. About an hour after that, I received 19 more. From that point, I got about 2 or 3 coins every 30 minutes until I was fully paid for my work. The timing of the payouts is odd (well in excess of 120 confirms for a block participated in) but there is no scamming involved as far as I can tell.

I just chalk it up to the quirks that come with mining on a brand new pool. Viper is often available in the chat on his pool site, and he responds to PM here on this forum. Seems legit to me, and very promising once the bugs are ironed out. Anyways, if you want to mine FC right now, what are your alternatives? On the official Feathercoin topic on this forum, I see links to one site that inst allowing new registration, one that gave me 9200 accepted shares and 1150 stales, one that doesn't allow you to keep track of your rewards by not even having registration, and a couple of brand new pools that have single digit M/h rates right now. Not trying to shit on other pools (that's why I didn't mention them by name) but Viper's pool is the best IMO right now, warts and all. Give it a chance.

Viper also PMed me to say that he is going to fix the auto payout problem, and he's already mentioned in this thread and on his site about migrating servers to speed up the frontend of the site.

I know I am brand new (this is my first post outside of the newbie section) so I know I have zero clout, but for whatever it's worth I recommend Viper's pool.

HOw many MH/s did you run and what was your final payout.  I was running about 3.8MH/s for about 12 hours straight and it looks like I've fallen a bit short of the expected payout.  I"m going to hold off from reporting this as anything but a lag because of the 120 confirmations.  I hope there are more than 40FC generated for that time.

imma find you and make you regret it.

non-stratum pool sucks.

I ran 2.2 Mh for about 3 hours. After that, I switched to 550kh while also mining ltc elsewhere. The 550kh ran for several hours, to be honest not quite sure how long. I have not done the math 100% since I do not know the exact time ran or work accepted during that time, but just winging it really. I would say the 550k/h ran for about 7 hours if I had to guess. Anyways, as I said I received 50 after around 14-15 hours since the initial 2.2 Mh 3 hour mining session. Then  about an hour after that 19 more coins, then every 30 min or so I keep getting coins in 2-3 coin increments. As of this very moment, I have received 97 total coins.

Sorry I cannot be more precise, but I can confirm the site is paying out coins.

Is it possible to get the stratum poolserver source you're using? I tried the eloipool-litecoin mod but I can't get the PoW to hash out right.

I just performed a manual withdraw on my ~1950 coins, but it only sent 1910 coins. Is the 2% fee calculated during withdrawals?

I can't believe it. With at first 700 khs then 1400 khs. Almost 2 days but only 10 ftc.
http://upsieu.vn/may2013/s3b2zxmS6.png

Got your pm and I will look into that shortly.


I dont want to - but if things are not working the way they should be, I may have no alternative. When/If i do, I will distribute all the remaining funds from the hot wallet out to all those that have mined on this site. As I have stated before, i dont care about the FC; only getting the code for the system right.

Ill give you a start, Im in melbourne australia and im pretty public on the web so it wont be that hard to track me down :D


Sure - still a work in progress, and a couple of little updates that i have not yet pushed back but the core functions are working. https://github.com/viperaus/stratum-mining


Correct - calculating the 2% on every block for every user was one of the main issues causing the backlog of scripts running. So I changed it to only take this fee out when processing a withdrawl request. This is also the same for donations.

To help explain this graph;

Blue: Shares History
Yellow: Shares

What does that mean?
Shares history is the table in the database where the share data is moved to once a block has been found and confirmed.

Shares is the table in the database containing the current share data that is yet to be processed.

As you can see in the graph, there is close to a 12 hour lag at the moment.

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I am looking into how to make the share data update quicker (and without breaking anything in the process). I have also temporarily added some extra columns into the 'my stats' page to help break down how many shares are being counted in each round and the approx payout. Please be aware, these stats may be wrong as it is still a work in progress, but it should help me to narrow down where the issue is.

I am mining with two CPUs (yeah, laugh all you want); and during the shutdown yesterday I switched one of them to Simple Pool. In the last 8 hours I received 2.1 FCs from AltPool while 1.6 FCs from Simple Pool. So, for atleast CPU miners I would recommend AltPool.

Is the server down? I can't view my stat in mine.altpool.com/stats.php. Miners working good, though.

That link points to nothing - he removed it two days back. Pool Stats and Account Details work, though.

EDIT: Its down now; but miners work.

Guys the pool works, you just have to give it time for the UI to update, I've received plenty of coins from here so far and it seems accurate from what I can see.

For the UI/you to get coins, don't expect to get them within 12 hours, just have to be patient.

How do you calculate the Network Hashrate?

For example here it's much lower: http://benhohner.com/feathercoin/

To put in my 2c, it seems to be working fine but slow for me; I was mining for about 2 or 3 days on the pool at approx 400 kH/s (stopped yesterday for computer reasons), and my balance is now up to 640FC.
The confirms does seem to take longer than expected, but it gets there eventually.

The site is back on; and the server load reads 'critical'  ;D

Guessing Viperaus has rushed to the supermarket to grab a few servers and a bucket of ice.

Hi there,

just wanted to mention that i am mining since 12h with 1200kh and cant see any submitted shares on the frontend. User=Gunni.

Just to make sure those arent forgotten, as I know that you are very busy right know.

ImI

lol :) if only it was that simple .. ive been pulling my hair out all day trying to test the code updates im working on but due to it being so slow im not getting anywhere.



OK everyone - I would like some feedback from you guys.

What i am proposing is:

1. Scrap the current front end code and start using MMCFE as this is already pretty solid from what I hear.
or
2. Continue with the current site, and people will just have to bear with me while I work things out.

For #1 to happen: I will shut down stratum server and will not accept any more connections. I will give the system 12 to 16 hours (whatever it needs), to process all of the outstanding shares and update users account balance. Once all shares are accounted for, I will enable auto payout on everyones account and send out whatever FC is due to be paid. Once this is done, I will then scrap the current database/website and begin the transition over to MMCFE, at which time, I will then turn stratum back on. You will then need to re-sign up, and configure your account.

For #2 to happen: well, as every hour goes by, I am getting less and less confident that I have the time/energy to continue to debug all of the issues that are going on - however if the group consensus is to continue working with the current site, I will continue to work on it.

Let me know what you guys think; I will start a poll momentarily.

I'd suggest waiting for your new server, 6 more cores than before should help ;)

EDIT : and yeah, I do mine on your pool :)

hi viperaus,
first of all thank you for running the pool, stratum is working great (so far) and stale is very low
but please get rid of that crap! front end is terrible, it takes ages to load and has no accurate information :)

Thanks for the support :) - Ive already upped the box last night to the next plan ($80/m as per one of my early posts) so it now has 4 cores and more ram but MySQL is still maxing out the CPU so yes, hopefully another 4 will help matters :)


No worries :) - will wait and see what the general consensus is (although I feel inclined to go with MMCFE and then restyle it)

Pool Op: Thank you for your hard work so far. I have been paid fairly from the beginning, this is just not a pool where one can hit refresh every 5 minutes and watch a slowly increasing balance... for a lot of members around here, scammy pool ops have lowered the amount of trust given.. hence people freaking out after not seeing payouts available when they should be available.

GIVE LOTS OF LEAD TIME IF YOU PULL THE STRATUM. I bet a lot of your miners dont have a good backup setup. it is NOT fun to wake up in the morning to find out you've missed out on hours of mining.

As above, thank you for the hard work so far, the stratum support is better than any other FC pool, but the frontend lets it down majorly, I vote to switch over :)

But whatever you do, please keep the pool running!

A switch over is probably the best way to go. Thanks for the continuing support

I quite agree. Stratum is the way to go, but a quick and responsive front end is, unfortunately, extremely important to most people.

^^^^^ What he said. I vote for switchover.

Pool just stopped taking shares. All stales. Site says too many connections.

Great pool with stratum! Please stay in the game!

Yeah great stratum pool but front end needs some work. Scrap the front end now as the more cpu cores added are only temporarily going to help and is just a band aid in the long run.

thanks for the continued work on this pool.  The stratum support is great I wouldn't change it at all.  The reject rate is very low compared to the other pools.  So the fee is fine in that context.

The front end is not responsive enough.  It's like that with any user interface.  People will pay a premium for a new front end.  It also establishes a greater trust.

I want to report that I've obtained all my shares and my payout reflects what it should be.  There is long lag but the payout is what I expected.  You just have to wait about 24 hours.  But mystats have updated correct.

I recommend that anyone that feels they have not been credited their FC you review their stats again.

Thanks for your had work.  I am lovin' the stratum but I agree front-end is crucial.  Plus, if you are already running into too much stress then do what you gotta do.  But in the mean time, can we keep mining or willthe pool be brought offline soon?

I've been mining on your site for 2-3 days now, and after my cashout yesterday, the last 12 hours have only produced 48 FC @ 2.6 Mh/s? I've clearly already passed the ~12 hour 120 confirmation delay a few days ago. Can you please look into this?

I don't even know what MMCFE is  ???
N00b scurries away to google...

https://give-me-ltc.com/

it is what ^ that pool uses

it is that basic interface that is very common among new alt pools.

Any updates on what you plan on doing?  I do love your pool and would love to move back once I know what is going to be happening.

Ah, OK. Thanks.
I've been having trouble with the site so I guess if that would help I'm for the MMCFE.
A little sleeker looking for sure.

The progress here is too slow, the frontend should be moved already, I've switched pools for now.

Your pool is nice, but if you really want to compete you have to be quicker.

Alrighty; sorry for the delay in this last update.

Looking at the poll results, it appears that the general consensus is to create the site with MMCFE.

I am happy to say I have now done this on a temporary server which has been offered to me by the supplier of my new server whilst awaiting it to be setup. Hopefully the full server will be online in a day or two.

In the mean time, if you want to join up on the new site and start mining on this temp box please feel free to do so. Any members that join in the next 48 hours will have their account set to 0% pool fee for the next month.

I have also added in a few tweaks with the stratum server; the main one that affects users is that miner details are now being validated.

Website: http://fc.altpool.com
Stratum connection: stratum+tcp://fc.altpool.com:3333/
Getwork connection: http://fc.altpool.com:8336/

I have only just literally uploaded the site and am yet to add content back into the pages; I shall get to this in the next 24 hours.

As this is also a new site, many functions are as yet untested and there may be a few bugs from the original developer, but so far from my testing everything looks good.

great job!  much faster interface.  will the old site still be available.  I have some FC there that I need to payout but I can't get onto the site to cash it out.  I keep getting timed out.

Great decision to switch the interface. Set my donation to 5% on the new site for now.

Thanks :) - yes, I will keep it up until the majority of users have moved elsewhere (ie, this new one or someone else's pool :)) and then shut down stratum. At that point, I will wait for all the outstanding blocks to update and share information to be processed. Once that has happened, all accounts with payment addresses will have their FC sent out, and those that dont have their address set, I will make contact with via email (as per registration details). Once all payments are processed, I will recheck the database to make sure everything was as fair as possible; make additional payments where/if required and then crash and burn the database and server.


Thanks for the support :) and the donation is much appreciated, I have not decided what to do with donations yet, but they will probably go back into the pool to be shared out at some point :)

Hi Viperaus - Thanks for the updates!  Per your instructions,  I just disconnected from the old mine.altpool.com and have now migrated over to the new server.  I haven't been able to get into the original server for a while now - so I appreciated you posting news here.

Fantastic support thank you, I've now switched back - found other pools were no where near as good!

The website is much speedier, good job :)


edit: Just want to add - the reward per round seems way off? Been mining for about an hour an only accumulates 1 FC ? It should be much higher than that!

Hi

The old website hasn't updated my balance in a while (I have since moved to the new website). Can you please process those payments?

Same here I had mined overnight at 550k/h two nights ago (going to guess at LEAST 8 hours or so) on the old server and as of right now I have only been credited a fraction of a single FC ( 0.04545000)  for all that work. It's been around 30 hours since I stopped mining in anticipation of my mining work being credited. I know that it took 24 hours before I starting getting credited for my mining when i originally registered at this site, but this is really pushing it.

 I don't know if the site changes that Viper has been talking about has anything to do with it, but I will have to get the missing credits from my mining session from two nights ago before I mine at either the original or new site. Its nothing personal, but right now ALL coin mining profits are very slim as it is. If I am going to dedicate electricity and hashing power to a purely speculative coin like FC, I need to at least be able to be credited for my work. I cannot afford to risk my efforts falling through the cracks of site fixes or migrations to other sites/servers. That being said, if I receive my coins, I will give the newer site a shot.

Everything OK here. Balance is OK i guess. Mined Monday for 24h or so.

Me as well with the old site not updating how much I mined. I've since switched over to the new site, registering again, I assume you'll (siteop) will credit my new account with my shares from the old site? Also it would be fantastic to update the first post with the new info so n00bs don't have to read the entire thread.

I was waiting on many coins and they finally got into account.  Still love this pool :)

I'm back in for '0% pool fee for the next month'!

Is it just me or is the new site not computing the right FC?

If you mean the daily estimate, then yes, it  is not you.  It is definitely wrong.  At about 600kh it says daily estimate is 26 FC, but I have already been paid out over 25FC after first few hours.

New site isn't showing my stats. No hashrate or anything. It seems to think that i'm not doing anything.... I'm connecting with stratum proxy and mining with cudaminer.

Moved my rigs back.  Thanks viper.  Kudos to you.

Also I've been fully funded from the old pool.  Exactly what it should have been. 

i think the site might be configured for 50 coin block reward estimate as it seems to be about 1/4 of what it really should be.

in the pool stats.. you did not multiply by 4x over LTC for the "coins per day"

it is currently showing 1/4th of what it should :)

just an FYI...

I am still showing a credit of only 0.04545000 FC for my ~8 hour mining session at 550k/h  that began ~12:15AM Central Time on 4/23 lasting through ~8:00AM Central Time 4/23. It has now been 45 hours since that session began and 37 hours since the mining session ended. Are payouts for work completed at the old pool requiring registrations at the new one? Is the new pool paying out for work on the original server? Just wondering what is going on.

I started this mining session immediately after posting on the previous page that although it took 24 hours to get fully paid for my first mining work, I had been eventually paid and that I recommended the doubters continue to mine here. It's now on the verge of doubling that amount of time for the session in question. At least with the first session payouts, I received a chunk of 50 FC after around 14  hours, and then a slow trickle of remaining FC over a 10 hour period. This session has gone 45 hours with a single payment of 4 one hundredths of a FC paid (which was around 8 hours ago that I received that tiny sliver.) Again, what is going on?

Im a little busy today - Anzac Day in Australia and having some guests over to watch the footy (Aussie Rules - go the Bombers!) - though I will try and put some time into fixing the bugs and responding to your queries as soon as I can.

viperaus, congratulations for your hard work. It's a shame the previous interface was not working well, though. It had some nice features. Was it your work? Maybe there were just some php and/or mysql clean ups to be done.

Hm, I had ~500FC on the old site which I cashed out around an hour ago, but I have still not received the transaction nor an e-mail. My balance on the site says zero FC though, so what's happening? :)

Did you verify address was correct?  Every time I did an manual payout I had notification within 10 seconds and was in my wallet.

Yes, it's correct. Just cashed out ~20FC to the same address and this time it worked fine.

Does anyone have a rough PPS for this pool? I have been mining for a few hours now @ 1260'ish kh/s and so far 3,053 have been paid and it's still under 1FC  :-\
I have another 21,600+ due but at this rate it will only be around 7FC if that?
According to the calcs I should be earning circa 200 per day......

Yeah mine is the same way right now. I cashed out roughly 8500 Feathercoins (old site) 3 hrs ago and it hasn't posted to my Feathercoin Wallet and it currently shows a balance of 0 in my old account.

Viperaus: can you please check on this matter. My username is JJFeathercoin and I'm on your new site and old site with the same user name.

Seems like there is a problem on cashout? I will wait for Viperaus to manually send the Coins then.

It seems there are not enough coins in the hot wallet. It might be caused to the switch to the new platform. Nothing to be too worried about. If everything was ok, Viperaus will just send you what you didn't receive yet.

12 hrs @ 1260 kh/s and I'll be lucky to receive 20 FC? WTF? (so far I have received just under 10 FC off 20,000 shares with 20,000 left to count)? I have now moved to another pool until you resolve your payout calculation issues >:(

Still waiting on a FC payout for my 550k/h session that lasted 8 hours. This session ended 56 hours ago, and so far I have only been paid .004FC total, and that payment was well over 24 hours ago. This mining work was done on the original server. No comment received even though I have made two prior posts in this thread about this issue.

Hi,
I cashed out a few FCs (just under 100) from the original pool (mine.altpool.com) earlier on today, and they still haven't shown up in my wallet. They have disappeared from my account though. Could you check it once you have a chance? Username is hughperman.
Thanks!
Hugh

This just sounds like you might either not know this is PPLNS or might not fully understand it?  Did it not strike you as weird that you'd received 10 FC if you'd mined 20,000 shares and had all 20,000 left to count?  You don't have shares "left to count" that isn't how it works.  You have to get your share count up and then you get paid based on your proportion of the pools shares whenever the pool finds a block.  If you'd kept hashing there, @1260 you'd probably be up to something like 6 FC per block  / ~52/day

FWIW, I just switched to this pool yesterday after having lots of problems with p2pool and it has been working great!  automatic payout is working fine, my hash rate is fairly steady, low reject ratio, etc.

Hi thanks and yes I didn't fully understand it, my Bad!!  :-[ Having been spoilt for so long on LTC PPS I was trying to work some form of PPS into my calculations for this pool and unfortunately it doesn't work like that, In the end I ended up with just shy of 56 for my 12 hours so it's not bad at all, although I'm not sure were the online Feathercalcs get 200+ from at current difficulty?.... Anyway all seems OK & I'll be switching back to this pool later on this morning.

Wacky payouts for me there. Have been mining for the last few days and while my shares are being accepted at a similar rate my payout has increased only the smallest decimal point. I'm hoping it will get figured out but not expecting much. My payout for the last 2 days is about 1/300 of the previous two days, which if anything, should have been higher as my mining program was running full time. oh well, see what happens.

The problem may be that it is calculating blocks of 50; in line with LTC. Simple Pool had the same issue earlier.

Ok so cgminer shows 260K/230Kh/s while the site shows about 34kh/s.  Thoughts?

I'm going to PM Viperaus now and hopefully he'll come back in this thread and answer a few questions. Normally I'd wait a bit longer than 24 hrs, but being he is a new member with only a bit more than 1 month as being a member I'm sure he can understand some of us questioning what's going on.

The pool is down it seems... I've been mining there with a decent hashrate for quite some time. I haven't cashed out yet. I certainly hope Viperaus will bring the pool back online soon and this will all be fixed...

All TX's have died since my last payout  :-\
TX ID of last payout = 14531
I'll switch to another pool until you can sort this....

I've got a small-medium sized pool running very smoothly and paying out exactly correct.  come on over and help us.. we've hit
5 blocks in about 16hrs with about 7MH/s- 9MH/s.

Its not stratum but its running great with over 98% efficiency.

http://fhc.ub3rl33t.com (http://fhc.ub3rl33t.com)

I have sent several PMs to Viperaus about the state of the pool and the FC that's stuck on the pool... I haven't received any answer so far.

I'm starting to get an awkward vibe about this, it's not smelling too good... I hope this won't degenerate in an unfortunate way...

Yeah, as soon as the site was having issues at roughly 45 mhash when the pool was stable for days before with almost the same hash rate, I started getting an uneasy feeling. I then looked up his username and found that he was only a member here for 1.5 months. I'm going to wait a few more days for him to check in here. Then I'll be pulling my miners away from his new pool which right now I have 2 rigs down temporarily but I'll be back up to 10 mhash next week.

For those that had a balance with his old pool, how many Feathercoins were in there.

I had approximately 8500 Feathercoins

I had 3K+ FC in there... Hard to know exactly how many as the refresh was so delayed... I still haven't got any answer from him... I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I hope he's just really busy with Anzac day and all, but I can't say I'm too happy with his management of the pool, and I hope I didn't just lose 3K+ FC which happen to be trading @ 37.5 LTC / 1K on Cryptonit right now...

where do you see trading of FC there?  I still dont see FC in the dropdown box.

https://cryptonit.net/exchange/ltc/ftc

Trading @ 40 LTC / 1K FC

Looks like a strong IPO... It will bring people to this market...

Still no answers from the guy... This is no way to manage a pool... Did I just get owned by my first scammer on Btctalk?

FC/Day estimate seems to be calculated wrong.
FC has 200 coins in a block, so should get 4x what it estimates.

Well here is some information I dug up for those that want to know what's going on

Domain Name.........: altpool.com
Registrar...........: CRAZY DOMAINS FZ-LLC
Whois Server........: whois.syrahost.com
Referral URL........: http://www.crazydomains.com
Name Server.........: ns1.viperaushosting.com
Name Server.........: ns2.viperaushosting.com
Creation Date.......: 2013-04-18 00:00:00
Expiration Date.....: 2014-04-18 00:00:00
Registrant Details..:
Registrant Name.....: Troy Dear
First Name..........: Troy
Last Name...........: Dear
Address Line 1......: 38 Dunoon St
Address Line 2......:
City................: Doncaster
State...............: VIC
Country.............: AU
Post Code...........: 3108
Phone...............: (+61) 402538107
Fax.................: (+)
Email Address.......: viperaus@gmail.com
Admin Contact Details:
First Name..........: Troy
Last Name...........: Dear
Address Line 1......: 38 Dunoon St
Address Line 2......:
City................: Doncaster
State...............: VIC
Country.............: AU
Post Code...........: 3108
Phone...............: (+61) 402538107
Fax.................: (+)
Email Address.......: viperaus@gmail.com
Technical Contact Details:
First Name..........: Troy
Last Name...........: Dear
Address Line 1......: 38 Dunoon St
Address Line 2......:
City................: Doncaster
State...............: VIC
Country.............: AU
Post Code...........: 3108
Phone...............: (+61) 402538107
Fax.................: (+)
Email Address.......: viperaus@gmail.com
DNS Delegation details:
Name Server 1: ns1.viperaushosting.com
Name Server IP 1: 74.220.195.44
Name Server 2: ns2.viperaushosting.com
Name Server IP 2: 69.89.16.124

Thanks man, really...

So, Troy, will you answer us, please?

You're closing the pool, ok, it's your right, but please give us our FTC...

I believe i had around 700 FC there, any possibility to get my FC out?

Some more domains this guy owns. Also take not of the bitcoin (9) and litecoin (6) sites.

1.  artformyoffice.com
2.  badbreathfromacidreflux.com
3.  bigbangmerchandise.com
4.  buyacaiberryproducts.com
5.  clearmydrive.com
6.  earnlitecoins.com
7.  fur2u.com
8.  fur2you.com
9.  game4bitcoins.com
10.  heaters4sale.com
11.  hempoilcookbook.com
12.  hempseedcookbook.com
13.  holidayonabudget.com
14.  itjobsworkingfromhome.com
15.  jobsfromworkingathome.com
16.  medicalincontinence.com
17.  microwaves4sale.com
18.  modelsnearby.com
19.  refrigerators4sale.com
20.  searchengineoptimize.net
21.  techsupportsoftwareblog.com
22.  toprestaurantsinmelbourne.mobi
23.  vacuums4sale.com
24.  washinemachinerepairs.com
25.  washingmachines4sale.com

I just sent an email to his gmail address requesting my FTC balance to be sent to my FTC address, and telling him we are waiting for answers on this thread.

I sent an email as well requesting payout

Still no answer... He signed his previous PMs to me "Troy" and doesn't seem to want to hide his identity... Strange for a possible scammer...

He has been reliable in the past. I guess he is stuck in some personal problem - lets wait and see.

Yes I wouldn't be worried I got most of my coins from the pool before.

I've withdrawn my FC from the pool multiple times all without a hitch... it is a good pool.

I hope you guys are right, and I'm sorry if I'm being a little too impatient and he's having a personal problem of some sort. In PMs, he didn't strike me as a scammer, and yes the pool looked good, better that the current barely customized Pushpool which are dominating the FTC mining scene... too bad...

OK...so I'm feeling a little (by little I mean a whole lot) ticked off here!

A couple weeks ago I set my miners on altpool and after several days of mining but receiving nothing except excuses and apologies for why the OP couldn't get the site up and running correctly...well...I gave up. Figuring that the FTC I had mined would show up in the account once he had things running smoothly.

Now I return tonight to see what my mining efforts had returned and he just up and shut the SOB down! What?!?! Man...that's no way to run a pool! So I never even got to see what was owed me from mining 2-3 days in the last pool...let alone the thought of actually receiving the payment?!?!

Now this guy is setting up a 2nd pool and evidently having more problems and paying more people with excuses and apologies.

Judging by the domains he's been buying (probably with the money he earned selling our stolen crypto) I'm guessing he's chasing the "make internet millions" fantasy that sucks so many people in. I wonder which sucker program he wasted our money on.  :D

Well...at least I'll be able to rest easy over my losses knowing that he'll probably be taken for $1,000s/$10,000s more before he learns the simple lesson that building a trustworthy reputation is the first step toward making real money online. You can't sell anything to people who have no trust in you!  ;)

FTC:
6vsa4YBmxrXyAMZ3EQTdPrPhQhjPVdfu2T

LTC:
LPfnfCXFKhGPk9WEeb6TogHGPDs7EGPaku

BTC:
1Nty4Skd98GHCknoJCAVbuqKWrkM4PXhq4

^
see earlier in this thread where my 8 hours of mining at 550k/h resulted in me being paid .004 FTC, which in itself is pathetic, but to top it off, it took around 12 hours to even get THAT.

I have posted about that 2-3 times in this thread now with no response. Was never credited for the work on my account with his site, and yes I saw just a few minutes ago he shut the pool down. Dunno why I even checked again, its been a good 4-5 days at least since not being paid, so its not like I expected to log in and find and FTC in my account there...but shutting it down without payment, no response from viperus in either PM or post in this thread, I cannot NOT RECOMMEND any pool this guy runs any less.

Whats even worse (somehow) is that viperus PMed me a few days ago before this issue to put in a good word for this pool when I told him via PM that I had finally received my first payout with the pool (which was super late payments broken into many tiny pieces over the span of 24+hours), but I agreed and put in a good word and now feel like a complete fool.

Hello everyone - I am sorry I have not been around for the last few days; I have had some family problems of late and that is a bigger priority to me than anything else.

I have arrived back into Melbourne late yesterday evening and have had to organize myself today. I am reading through all the messages now and will be replying to all the PM's as soon as I can.

Im sorry the mine.altpool site has gone down. I was not aware of this, however it is probably a good thing as I have logged in a couple of hours ago and noticed the hot wallet is out of funds. I do not know how this has happened and am currently in the process of running the script to calculate all of the rewards per user for each block. Once this has ran, I will cross reference it with the database and actual payouts to find out what has gone wrong.

To all those that are still waiting for payouts from this site, I will move all the test funds I sent to myself (account: 6zKfbsa8eHKp5VsPDKAnKMQyuzp5Knkktr - http://imgur.com/VkHucrO) and all the fees/donation funds from fc.altpool to begin payout. From my admin panel, it appears that there is about 20K that needs to be paid out, however I do not have this much banked up, (about 1.9K in tests and about 1K from fc.altpool) - once I have collated all the data, I will be in a better position to know what is the true amount owed to miners.


I shall update this after replying to everyone


I will payout as much as I can tonight and as the new site gets more donations/fees, I will continue to work off the balances owing


Sorry, I was in a rural area with terrible internet access.

Ive said before, im not here to scam people hence I have no reason to try and hide myself. I even stated in a previous post you could find me pretty easily on the web (as you can now see from whois data :))


Dont feel too bad - I know how this must look (especially being a realativly new user on BTC) and I am sorry I have not been able to keep you guys informed and updated as I have in the past.


No domain names I have, have been purchased with BTC/FC/LTC - ever - they have all come from my own pocket, and no, im not chasing the 'make internet millions', just hoping to get a few dollars from either adsense or resale.

Viperus, as i have said a few times now in this thread, I was not paid for 8 hours of mining at 550 k/h many days ago on the original site. This occurred shortly after I put in a good word for your site as you asked me to do via PM. In fact immediately after receiving my payment for my original work, and posting in this thread that you DID in fact pay me, I turned one of my miners back to your site for a 8 hours session.

This is the session I am speaking of about not being paid. Well, actually i received a one-time credit to my altpool account  of .004 FTC at least 12 hours (and probably longer I forget) after the session ended, but this is clearly not even close to the amount owed for certain. I have not made an account on your new site. If you intend to make good on your above promise of paying your miners for their past work that was not paid due to the site running out of money, then that is great. As I said, I do not have an account at your new site and since the old site is shut down I will provide my FTC wallet address where you can feel free to send me my payment if you wish.

I honestly do not even know how much is owed to me (since the site is down and all) but if you have a record of it still, or send me a payment that even remotely resembles what I should have received, then that would be very nice and I will be happy to report back on this thread to update the situation. Send any payments owed here:

6h3ETimhDYXpEC97wEJiWRYseJ2BJuEjnP

As said before, I will do what I can to ensure all outstanding payments from that site are honored. I have added your address into my list and will process as many payouts as I can this evening.

Just adding my FC wallet in hopes of payout.

6uyyA7mhSvdpnV6QxZRMJLmoVNxdzspHCi

Hey Viper, if you dont have them, do you have any idea what happened to all the missing FC on the old site?  As I've said before in the thread, I'm mining on fc.altpool with absolutely no problems at all, but this whole previous situation makes me curious.

Wasn't paid for at least 12 hours @ 2.6 MH/s, in addition to early mined blocks. The site said I had ~2900 FC, I tried to cash out, it didn't send anything to my wallet but deducted the 2900 FC from my account.

Viperaus responded via pm


It's definitely a start that he's come back in and posted and sent out some pm's. What I'm interested in is how many people have received payment from his old site being that he mentioned he was going to work on it last night.

Viperaus can you post a total of what you owe to all miners. Then when you payout to these miners we'll keep track of it via a log/ledger.

still nothing received

Yeah, I got nothing either. Not that I was expecting much of anything but still no reply to my e-mail or any FC deposits. Maybe he'll pay off the larger amounts owed and then get to it.

FC looks like it's being added to BTC-E.
They have a FC/BTC tab but nothing in it yet.

Have anyone received the coins they are owed?

I haven't, it was only 98 or 99 FTC but they're worth a little bit at the min so hoping the OP comes back!!

(Address: 6nPNw53RPcMvnP5A6T8etjdTrWZfrHGaHi in case viperaus is paying out)

HI,

it's seems that's my mining didn't bring any FTC since a few hours now,
I'm switching pool.

pool having problems today or just really unlucky?

a new pool before the users from older pool is paid?

Hi Everyone,

So I have finished running my reports and have paid out as many users as I have been able to without eating into the allocated funds for current miners on fc.altpool

There are a few users still remaining to be finalised - please see this google doc file:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aji0Rmxt25S7dEhVUGQySVFYRjNoOW5HNEtWTEZpV0E&usp=sharing

If you feel you are still owed funds and are not on this list, please contact me via PM and let me know your username and payment address (if it was set) and I will verify the details and if requested send a copy of my report through to you.

There were quite a lot of users that have been overpaid - any that were less than 100 have not been included on this list. I do not expect people to return excess funds, but it would be nice if they do.

Sorry for the delays; i wanted to make sure this data was as accurate as possible.

Regards,
Troy.

Viperaus, any way you can PM me what my user ID is on the original altpool site? I dont know what it is and cant view it because the site is down. I do not see my wallet address under the listed addresses. My username on your original altpool site is "billionairebot"

Thanks.

I haven't received my 3K+ FTC from the pool. There could be much more than that because I continued mining long after the front-end disappeared, and I was still submitting shares @ 7 Mh/s. Viperaus has sent me 100 FTC (Why 100 FTC when I mined 3K+????), then he has consistently ignored my PMs so far.

I am not among the list of addresses for payouts on Google docs, it's as if I didn't exist or hadn't mined on his pool for an extended period.

I am now publicly asking OP to please send me my full FTC balance asap. I have submitted all relevant info including my workers' name multiple times by PM.

The fact that FTC is down more than 70% since the last time I asked for my balance to be paid doesn't help. OP had ample opportunity to sell high and buy back low for payouts. This is no way to manage a pool and treat miners.

OP, please send me my full balance asap to the address I gave you via PM.

I will post an update in this thread about my situation.

Still no transfer from Viperaus, and no answer to my PMs...

Is anyone else waiting for a payment from Viperaus?

I certainly understand your frustration, but I wanted to share my experience which might provide a some useful insight.  I also sent a PM to Viperaus on May 3rd after his last message in this thread.  In my case, I was sending a PM because I was on the list of addresses that have been overpaid and I was asking what address he would like that overpayment returned to.  I also have not received a response to my PM.  If you look at the profile of Viperaus, you will notice that he has not been on the forum since May 3rd.  Some may be concerned that Viperaus has taken the money and ran, but I don't think this is the case.  He has gone through a lot of effort to determine what he still owes people, and he has disclosed that information here without being asked to do so.  It sounds that in your case he is missing some information in his records, but I do not believe that is because of malicious intent and hopefully that will all get sorted out soon.

I am willing to give Viperaus the benefit of the doubt and consider that what is going on has something to do with what he posted in this thread on April 30th:


It sounds like Viperaus is dealing with difficult things in his life right now.  I realize that it is a lot easier for me to give Viperaus the benefit of the doubt and be patient because I am waiting to return money rather than waiting to receive money.  I also understand that a lot of people just want their money, but hopefully my experience and perspective will put some minds at ease that things may eventually get worked out.

Hoping for the best for everyone involved,

steganos

At this point I would be willing to consider the debt paid if I received 30FTC.

According to the Viperaus Google Spreadsheet, I am due just over 100FTC. Forget the other 70FTC, forget the lost opportunity to sell those 100FTC for .005-.007 each when BTC-E first accepted FTC had I been paid anywhere near the time when i devoted the mining effort towards earning them, just please pay me 30FTC, which is worth around .00099BTC each at the moment, and you can check my name off the "owed"list.

If you can afford to open and operate second pool, surely you can afford to pay me just under 30% of what you owe me. I will be fine with reporting back in this thread whatever amount of FTC is delivered to me, assuming any ever is.

Steganos,

Thanks for your input. I hope you're right.

how is this going?

Still no news from Viperaus. How long are we supposed to wait until we take appropriate measures / retaliatory action against Troy Dear and his webhosting / domain name "empire" for ignoring/defrauding miners ?

I'm always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but this is really getting old fast...

Checking up on how the repayment plan is going with everyone else.

I've received one transaction of 200 FTC on 5/2/2013 and also another later on in the day worth 1800 FTC on 5/2/2013. I'm still waiting on my remaining balance of 3649.10147965 FTC. Has anyone else received more recent payments?

Unfortunately he's not logged in since the 13th, and his email isn't listed. Does anyone know another way to get in touch with him? I'd like to help him get out of this predicament and make good on his debts.

In the mean time there's plenty of good pools. Check the Mining forum over at feathercoin.com: http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?board=2.0

I think there is an account by the same name on forum.litecoin.net.  I saw a user post by the name of Viperaus post about a week ago, and from the content of the post, it sounds like it might be the same guy.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to access forum.litecoin.net since yesterday, so this is all based on my memory from about 1 seek ago.  Is it down for anybody else?

It's down for me too.  >:(

At this point there is really no reason to ever expect payment for coins owed to you IMO. Especially if you are owed many FTC. About all you can do is help spread word about what happened and to recommend potential miners to avoid any pools that Viperaus is associated with... such as his Invasion LTC pool being advertised on this board