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I had big hopes in Trump. Just like I had in Obama 8 years ago. But the media and US government did it again. They fooled us. Made us think Hillary will bring WWIII but at the same time made us think that Trump is a nightmare for the western world and their goals to destroy middle east. Well played. Now they got installed a psycho as president.

Now, on many sources I´ve read, that war is coming soon. Japan, China, South Korea, North Korea and USA. Of course USA is playing the world police again and the scenario is written already. They act like they have to go against evil North Korea. Use of nuklear weapons pretty much possible. At the end, all I hope is that the US will see how war is. I hope the war will not be in Europe, middle east etc. I hope it will come to you Uncle Sam. In your country. Kill you premium humans and your children.

Whatever. What do you guys think will happen with the BTC price if this scenario will come true in a few weeks?

I have pretty much all my cash in Bitcoin and I am not sure if everything would go to hell if these psychos start this war? I guess they will cut most of the internet connection in the world, so people can not communicate and nobody will know whats going on in the world. So they can do their crimes and we have to start believing the shit in the newspapers again.

Not sure what to do with them coins now? I guess Fiat money will also be useless in war. Switch all to gold?

war only effect about fiat money curency, big batllet follow war, USD and yen
bitcoin price effect only bitcoin user can playing issue to take profit

but is good thread post in politic society section

World War 3 is not likely to happen. All of the major superpowers(USA, China, and Russia) know that war wouldn't be good for either side. More than likely, everything will be worked out without war. What good would a war with the United States do Russia? It wouldn't. They know it, you know it, we all know it. It would just kill millions of people and get us absolutely nowhere..

Kill their premium humans and children? Ok well obviously I don't agree with that. I definitely don't agree with much in terms of American politics but I don't think a war will happen. Trump hopefully can't piss off enough people to start a war before he's forced to resign.

I seriously doubt China would want to get into a war against the US. They hold over 1.2 trillion dollars of debt from the US and are also major trade partners. Just wouldn't make sense from an economic standpoint.

But you really think that while North Korea is arming themselves that USA Trumpville will allow them to prepare themselves without putting the vibe outhere not to F with them?
Don't you think that MOAB was just a warning to all other countries to show what strength the US has over all when it comes to war?

Anyways what has this got to do in this section? It should be in the political & society section on the forums.

It barely has anything to do with bitcoin and more towards the world's economics anyways.

Yeah...you voted for Trump? They fooled you. The Donald is the least stable candidate ever. If Kim Jong Un talked shit about the Apprentice Donald Trump would have a nuclear fit over it.

As for war...the US has been at war since 2001, this shouldn't feel too different, it's just new targets and it's all under the guise of "terrorism".

The real US Presidential candidate was Gary Johnson but 95% of the US voting public was too scared to vote for him. The problem with the country is the two party system they have. Those two parties create the divide that allows people to justify to themselves voting for a shitty candidate (Trump or Clinton in the last run).

as i always say if a war (with the scenario you are describing) starts, then you should kiss every single item that we say has value today, goodbye.
none of them will have any value. fiat, bitcoin, (altcoins lol), gold, ....

the currency of that time will be potato, rice, water, blanket and shelter. so start hoarding them. :D

Really? You're gonna blame this on the media? The media attempted to put Hillary in a good light, therefore trying to get voters to vote for her. You fooled yourself thinking a fucking billionaire business magnate would be a better president.

Seriously China and US doesn't have a good relation from the long back. Right now I believe the war might happen between North Korea and US. This will possibly result in a very big disaster to the entire nation's growth. Also North Korea have announced that anytime they're ready to face war.

https://i.imgur.com/gKlfMLN.jpg

Yet he sill is milions times better than that communist wentch.

When I read this forum I wonder, what are you people doing here? Bitcoin is an ancap money and yet you brag about how you had hopes in obama or hillary

War wont happen because it would cost them money. Otherwise it would be China, Russia, North korea, Turkey+ middle east against VS, Europe, Australia. War is bad for business. Countries arent attacking eachother. So it wont happen. When it happens we are all probobly dead in a couple of hours because of nukes.

Trump won the election, because it was necessary to create a war. But this is not the beginning of the third world war, they simply erase some people from the face of the earth. I think bitcoin is not in danger.

War isn't coming, it's only coming to all of the countries that the US starts them in, which people don't seem to think matters.

Both sides were nightmares, but neither is going to start WW3 at least for a long time.  Even if it happened, fiat currency wouldn't be worthless.  If anything, Bitcoin would lower in value because people's homes where they store it wouldn't be safe.

I don't think a war against North Korea and Syria will have any negative effect on Bitcoin. And that's the only places of war I can think of at the moment. I doubt we will see a WW3 with China and Russia taking a side against the US. The actual financial system is done, that's why the elites always try to stimulate it with war. Destroy and then build up again. And who knows what else agenda these guys have we have aboslutelx no clue about. The thing is we can not really stop it if they want it so desperate. Just prepare yourself as good as possible. And holding Bitcoin is imo definitely something you should do.

I am agree with Denker, about holding BTC, cus' it's the fastest way to transfer your money over broders, so if there is scenario like WW3, BTC will be definetly thing that is choice for everyone who dont want their money in goverments banks or on wall street. Decentralize money is something that you want in such of situations.

Not if it depends on internet and elektricity. You really think that will still be up ad running in times of war? Cmon wake up. BTC will be useless in times of war.

There is UN. War is not likely to happen against another country. It will be inside USA who will have problem. First thing they must do us unite their people which seems like not happening until now. Rallies happening everywhere and the criminality rise which really threatens theur people who will be thinking of getting out. Where would they get their armies after that? Not all can be relied on robots.
They will not be the middleman now. People have opened their eyes since the rise of internet and this will make it harder for them to make people believe with just media by their side.

The united states and north korea has been playing this game of tag for way too long, it would literally be too soon before one of them gives up hiding or get found by the other party. Too bad it has to be trump this time, making america great again , or getting more into the national debt

I doubt if btc is going to be affected by this.

I doubted Trump from the first day. Looks like I was right. Hope this war is a mirage,and not actually happening.

How we gonna trade when we have to shoot eachother?

We've had a proxy war in the middle east since the 1990s.

But you're right, this or next year, it could turn into full blown war.

Kinda exciting for BTC tbh..   :-X


But I think other than diversifying into stores of value when rise in economic collapses, like Gold and Bitcoin, one should look to investments in necessities, namely FOOD. In times of war, FOOD will become drastically expensive as sea routes get shut down and what not.

My plan is to move to Australia in 3-5 years time, and start a food-garden and eventually a self-sustaining farm.

I think there wont be any war, the whole world will reject the idea of war, but if war is happening, there will be no electricty and internet, so rather than store your money in fiat or coin, you better store some food and other survivor kit and saved some bitcoin for your saving after the war, fiat price will be dropping seriously but bitcoin will stay valuable

North Korea leader is nuts and when he says he will attack US then he will do it, US has zero chance against NK-China-Russia. after testing "MOAB" in Afghanistan shows how could Trump unpredictably take such actions, destroying ISIS tunnels on a foreign soil with the excuse of fighting terrorism and defending US right? what will stop him from launching nukes next time raining fire upon NK with the excuse of them being eminent national security threat?

Bitcoin infrastructure is well distributed across countries and we'll only need it's network ports to stay open that's all, I though hardly doubt it if US could stand a chance against those 3 countries, bullies are always doomed.
Everyone knows US is an ally to countries violating human rights yet they claim that they're have the best interests for human rights, joke is on them.

This situation will not affect the bitcoin. Now in many countries there are mass protests or terrorist attacks, this can already be considered a war.

I am pretty sure there won't be mass scaled world war,
but if it happens, bitcoin price will be higher even if we cannot trade. gold & btc.

No it is not!

The middle east is already at war so we can't say for real something is going to start there.
Syria and Israel are technically still at war.

And if we look at North Korea, well worse things have already happened there.
There are a lot of people who start panicking .. war oh my god.. but this planet has never been entirely at peace, it is just that the wars have already been in the distance (speaking from the point of view of us).
And it won't change.

Not it will affect the bitcoin price.

True. Elektricity and internet will be attacked also. Bitcoin will be worthless. Make no mistake, bitcoin is extremely vunerable compared to gold. Gold maintains its value because its easy to distribute and hard to destroy or lose it and you dont need elektricity and an internetconnection for it. Why are people so naive and blind on this forum? For the sake of your own future, dump btc when there is a WW3 and your country is at war. How will bitcoin worth a single $ without a worldwide internetconnexion, and elektricity? Thats right: nothing. Good for us is that there isnt a WW3 at all and people are just scared because Trump is a little retarded just like Korea Kim , toxic Assad and Alexander Putinnov 47. Well at least Europe is still at peace except kamikaze France and kidnapp Erdogan ^^

Oh wow... you're a genius. It must be a completely new idea that war is bad for both sides... That's why we had so much war in the past, people didn't realize that!

Not for everyone on both sides, only the weak poor non powerfull people. They get rekt while the govement can just chill.

Oh really?
Was it war that bad for the British Empire?

I really doubt it.
War is bad for you when you're not crushing your enemy fast enough, but when you do it and then you have years of "peace" when you collect the bounty in resources, I can guess war is pretty profitable and good.

I dont think that choosing Hillary would be a better option, I think she is not able to make such a good decisions as Trump can.
Also, Im against saying that Trump is a "Psycho president" because it is too early to tell, if he is really out of his mind, maybe the acts in Afghanistan and Syria (US behaviour) are leading to something bigger, which is good, not necessary a war.

I cannot believe that anyone (except North Korea of course) would want to use their nuclear weapon, because everyone knows well that the moment of launching first nuclear bomb aimed in some country will be the start  of humanity extincion.

Are you really afraid of Trump starting a nuclear war? He is not a stupid person, he cares about US and he knows that starting a nuclear war would destroy US and the rest of the globe.

First this topic would be best to move to the Political and society. For his answer, even I think weird to reply to him. I think he did not went through his history book. when he was in schooling, lol. Next war will be nuclear or atomic and that would be the end of world.

I think best will be to move half to gold and half to bitcoin. Definately bitcoin price will get some good pump when USD/fiat will be worthless in war. But we have to be optimistic and try to come over the fear of third world war. Nobody wants war, war is just the business for politicians.

I have also started to think about another world war after trump ordered to throw the biggest non-nuclear bomb ever made in afganistan. Who gave him permission to just throw his bombs in land of other's  ???

USA is digging their nose in internal issues of several countries and they are using those countries as testing ground for their weapons.

As I can see am not the only who believe in a WW3 scenario. I hope the war won't come, but it must be will all those terrorists attacks from muslims, with NATO, etc. Everything be for money!
And yes I believe too, that they will cut all the Internet connections, so we can't communicate with each other, and all we are using btc we won't be able to use that money. That will make the price of gold be as highest as possible, bcs the fiat money won't have any value. We have to be careful and prepared for something like that after this Monday!

The moment internet is "cut" lol. we're gonna have a lot more problems than just fiat and btc.
Your gold will have a problem, what will you buy with it?

Radioactive ducks? And this will probably not be the name of the most loved pop band at the time

The ISIS were hiding in caves. Be thankful that the US didn't decide to nuke the entire area.
If war does come, my biggest concern would be saving my life, not saving my bitcoins.

With tension between countries are boiling hard it is looking like we are going to see another war in the near future,North Korea just showcased their strength and the US is always playing with fire even though they have a change in administrators ,it is really hard to hide their cunning behavior with the recent missile strikes.

If the war starts im sure btc will be unusable since I think internet connection would be cut off resulting to never moving price or a low bitcoin price. Fiat I think will have worth but it is not that much and gold might have worth too. For sure if war happens the world would be chaotic so better prepare ourselves for fighting and our bitcoin stash safe and sound so that we will have some money to return to if war will end.

Yes, in the event of a world nuclear war, many currencies will depreciate. Perhaps only gold will represent at least some value.

Smart.
Why would you go all in on Bitcoin though? Aren't you putting too much time and money in Bitcoin? Since Bitcoin is pretty much made by a human being what makes you want to put a bunch of money into it during a war?

Bitcoin isn't worth more than Gold so I don't see how Bitcoin will help in that situation. Gold been around plenty of wars and look at where it is right now, pretty expensive now days.

Just because of the war I don't think that the bitcoin usage comes to an end. Right now the boiling of war moves were found hard between two countries who have got good weapons. But this won't affect the entire bitcoin network. Only those countries gets affected a little.

Trump games will not affect the price of bitcoin, only can slow down its growth a little. In any case, by the end of the year, bitcoin will grow.

Trump's games won't affect; but a full blown war will. We have gotten used to extended times of peace (apart from small localized conflicts). A war will affect all asset classes, including Bitcoin.

From my perspective, Trump has made a good move, it was planned very precisely I think, because the president order to bomb the Syria was during conversation between Trump and China leader, they were speaking about North Korea case.
The purpose of that bombing was to show the China president that Trump is not afraid to use his power even against independent country, that was supposed to show that he won't be afraid of China if bombing North Korea will be necessary.

As you said, we had peace on most of the planet for a long time. We got used to it, but the possibility of war between some big countries has raised among last years.

If there was a big war, and god forbid there was any kind of 'lights out' scenario in China, then that would be very bad for Bitcoin. On the otherhand, if there was a big war, it is unlikely to kick off at some agreed time, such 3pm, next Saturday afternoon with the replay being held the following Wednesday evening should the first round of the war end in a draw. i.e. Bitcoin's biggest potential in my view has always been capital flight from people who have savings in vulnerable currencies, which the CNY might well be in the run up to a situation that could result in a big war. Mind you, Chinese investors also have gold, with China being the both biggest producer and importer of physical gold, and a gold exchange having recently opened in Shanghai.


According to the Bitcoin weekly chart, Bitcoin has had it's big ramp. There is confirmed divergence between RSI and price action, with confirmed bearish structure in place on the weekly RSI. Bitcoin has had a momentus run up. an increase of around 400% overall. If you have caught all that, time to take some profits. Bitcoin has a potential hardfork event coming up and looking around other cryptos, those always mean instant losses. Gold on the otherhand is on the verge of breaking out of a 6 year bear market, having spent the last 2 years scraping along the floor. With the way geo-political events seem to be lining up, this chart seems to make sense. The Chinese and Russian central banks aren't stockpiling Bitcoin, they are stockpiling gold. The Chinese and Russian governments haven't just implemented Bitcoin as a means of settling international trade. They have just implemented gold as a means of doing this job.

Take some of that Bitcoin, and buy some gold and hold onto it. Those gold coins will still be highly valued long after Bitcoin has went down in the history books as the very first failed crypto-currency attempt.

I am bearish on Bitcoin at the moment, so my advice would be to sell it all, but of course, I might be wrong about that. Some other posters may butt in here and point out that I am a Bitcoin perma-bear, but this is not true. Look through the latter pages of my TA thread, and you will see that I have been touting $1500 BTC since Sept 2016, when Bitcoin was still in $500s, post the Finex scam. To me, it looks like BTC isn't going to get to $1500 on this move. Perhaps it will further down the line. Or perhaps it never will. Bitcoin is a hugely risky investment for someone to have 'all their cash in', with huge systemic risks in every direction that you look......take it from someone who has been robbed by two exchanges now (Kraken and Finex) and discovered the hard way how these places are set up in order that the operators can do what ever they please with complete impunity.


Edit: I am also deeply dissappointed in Trump and cannot abide those who seek to find excuses for him or cover him with a rose tinted gloss. The great big bloated orange egotistical prick has either sold out, or is being controlled, or has taken everyone for a ride all along. I don't care which is the case. It is business as usual for the Evil Empire, and then some........never seen a US president act so belligerent towards North Korea before. A very dangerous regime controlled by the most dangerous man, with the most diabolical ego on the face of the planet (Kim Jong Un that is, although Trump and the US are probs a close 2nd).

Wow, there is someone angry with Uncle Sam here...

I have only to thanks Mr. Trump and the good USA command to be the world police again, that was what good people from precarious countries were missing so much on the last decade, while their governments were stealing their people, Mr. Obama praised their corrupt leaders to avoid a conflit or just to be demagogic as he always was!

The civilized nations of this world should help the precarious nations not by sending them medicines, food, clothes or some pennies, but helping them to achieve their INDEPENDENCY, LIBERTY by kicking thieves from the governments, especially if they are harmful for the world peace like in the North Korea and arabian countries!

Trump is contradicting even the egoistic americans who worries only with themselves and don't want to involve on other's conflits. That would be negligence and worse later for the americans as they could let an "evil force" grows and becomes stronger to attack them later. Cut the evil by the root!

What's the solution?  Let NK continue their nuclear weapon development until they have reliable worldwide nuclear strike capability?

Solution is simple like it has always been. In times of war: pick the weakest country: bomb it, plunder it, rob its people. Leave it. And all countries can work on their next plan for the next 'war'. Weak I mean wealth/army ratio. Its just about the money like it always has been.

and WWII?

Exact same story. Started with an strong combined attack on weak Poland by USSR and the third reich. After they plotted a plan togheter they they plundered it, and robbed the Polish people. After that an attack on weak Holland and Belgium. No chance, easily robbed and defeated. After the third reich had too many enemies and they were heavily outnumbered America joined to defeat the helpless third reich togheter with the USSR and England to bomb it, rob it, rob its people (contract of paying USA back because the third reich 'started' the war). Germany defeated. Hmm middle east next, same story different place+time. North korea already happened before and will likely start again. There is always the same pattern. Last pure country that supports communism. Small, isolated. Lets bomb it. Lets invade it. Lets rob it. Lets rob its people. Leave it. Clear and simple.

Omg I cant undestand this Americans how they dont like Donald Trump when he is a reallz good politician not like a Obama.He do that to North Corea because Corea dont have nuclear weapon prepared everthing is lie what they said because they want to protect own country and Trump can won that theitory when he want.

Trump isnt a politician, he's a businessman. I really dont care about that little weak north korea country. They are already dead. Trying to compete with usa? Nobody can tell the tale.

If war comes it come.  It will be not the time to think on what will happen to our riches.  Since we do not know if the heir would be alive by then.  Besides, why worry that much?  Just enjoy what is offered today and make the best out of it.  If we worry what will happen tomorrow then we cannot notice the best things laid in front of us.

I understand what OP talks about here, his concerns about war are real, its not something imaginary. What to with money, playing safely means that you should keep some bitcoins, buy some gold and for any case have some cash.
They make so much weapons in past two decades, they need to spent that somewhere.

Already happening in the middle east, Africa, ISIS and other terrorism groups. MOAB used just a weak ago. No my friend, they are using weapons for years, and it will continue for ever because there is always 1 group that will use violence and others that will react to it.

I can't imagine also if world war 3 if it happens. but all the superpowers to prevent main (United States, China and Russia) know that the war would not be good for either side. More than likely, everything will work without the war. What good will a war with the United Russia? It's not. They know that, you know, we all know it. the war that will take millions of souls who do not fault.dan world will be partially destroyed, the world economy will be a crisis in all things do not occur until comrades. still keep the peace of the world.

Though the country is little, it has the power to make some impact on the growth of US if the war explodes. Every nation has weapons that they keep it secure and reveal a limited list. US could have already made a war, but fearing the atomic war it have been waiting long. So we cannot underestimate North Korea.

North korea cant even launch a proper rocket. They wont have a chance. USA can launch rockets from south korea. The north is isolated. It was just a matter of time before the democratic countries are going to destroy the last communism country. We saw it at Cuba, North Korea is just the next one.

I believe that they will be a bit puffed up and agree on peace. It is not advantageous for them to destroy the economies of their countries by war and become beggars.

I don't see war.  If you've ever met anyone with his kind of personality it would be clear.

Besides, if there was war and millions of people get displaced from their country, having a non National exchange method might not be such a bad thing.

People would donate too.

There will be no war, because North Korea has nothing to lose. Their economy is at the bottom, and it is not possible to harm it any further. But the American economy will be negatively affected by any new war.

I hate this position of the US counting themselves as the world police and like they have rights to decide what is good and what is bad in the world. They think they save the world, must be it's the effect of tans of superhero movies that they film all the time. I think if the war will really come - bitcoin is going to be worthless in those countries who will join the war. Because the first thing that will be done is turned off internet and other connections, and with such terms bitcoins use is just impossible.

True. We would be broke if that happens lol. Anyway a war is nog going to happen right? Right?

perhaps the real war will not occur at this time. I think the war will create a lot of destruction is cyber war. This war can happen any time. when every country could control the whole world then this is the end of everything.

Fuck you too

Seems like war is going away...

The Trump Armada is going in the wrong direction:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-north-korea-aircraft-carrier-sailing-opposite-direction-warning-a7689961.html

Lol.....

You my Friend are watching too much Youtube, for taking some scenarios that are only will come true if a bilateral of that country will not prevent it, and the impending war would happen if the world leaders would snap and become crazy murderers, but if war would occur (and I wish that it would not) and if you are scared of bitcoin being lost well I would think not if there are internet there would still be bitcoin but the value would really change a lot depending on what country would win or the outcome of the war it self.

If the scale or political/economic problem will be enough financial markets will be affected.
Every time fiat based markets are failing, bitcoin is rising, any local war should have positive impact on the price of BTC.

What exactly Trump did to fail your trust? Trump is president for less than 6 months, give him time.
Obama was a president for 8 years. It is a huge difference.

It will definitely be seen as a decisive measure over each and every country's thinking as to what they are upto as well as their personal interest in the "interest" of people living there. WWIII is actually not a good thing and should never take place because peace will be eradicated out and so markets will also see the effects of this negative wave that will destroy the world. Remember those days when Hitler was alive? You still want these wars to take place just to calm down ado that you have in your mind?

At least trump does something, fun to watch.
Obama didnt do shit.

WWII was about revenge for WWI

Whats going on now is just about power and showing of between USA, China and Russia and their little toys like Israel ( USA) North korea ( China) and the middle east (Russia)

Hold your bitcoins tight you will need them soon

Why's that?

Financial crisis?
Colapsing of the USA dept?
death of the EURO?

Hmm conspiracy  :)

War isn't gonna happen and also war will not affect bitcoin price it will affect human being and those innocent people who don't have knowledge about war also those kids, if people wll be involved into war maybe they will withdraw their all money to use in emergency like buying foods and other needs.

of course it affects btc price. How you wanna sent btc without elektricity or an internetconnexion thats bombed because of a war? WW3 = welcome to double digits again

Exactly, nobody wants the war because during the peace time, the trade is going very well, there are many agreements between governments, that apply to different branches of industry, for example financial or energy industry.
Also, the war in modern times between two highly developed countries look totally different, there are not many soldiers going forward to the land of the enemy, there are thousands of aircrafts, drones, sattelites and different military technology, which usually might be used for killing people.
The another problem we encounter in such a case, is that many countries have access to nuclear weapon, which is very important factor when anyone is thinking about attacking the independent place.

War is not coming war never goes away,there is still war in some places of the world just changing location.War is always profitable business for some and suffring for many

War is escalated business.

War has always been a business for secret world rulers. They control it where it is profitable for them.

Lindsay Graham just said that he would endorse a preemptive strike against North Korea so it would not surprise me if we started a new war. I don't know what this would do for Bitcoin, but defense stocks might not be a bad place to put our money.

“The United States of America will always seek peace,” Pence said aboard the USS Ronald Reagan, which is docked at the U.S. Yokosuka naval base in Tokyo Bay, Japan. “But under President Trump, the shield stands guard and the sword stands ready.”

Well this line should be consider I think we should wait for North Korea's supreme leader Kim Jong Un's answer for this, well let's just say he is crazy to strike, but this is America and a second though might work, and U.S. still seeks for a peace talk than war, let's just wish that it could end in a peaceable way, it could really be implicate for bitcoin if caught on the conflict.

That is not true, US have shown us already many times, that this sentence is totally false.
For the reasons that only US government knows, they are getting involved in most of the conflicts on our planet, they play a "world police" role, but it is still not about peace.
They are seeking for profits, from exploiting the other countries. Any example? Iraq, why they have started this war? Obviously, for oil profits.

Nobody starts a war with a country on the other continent, because he is looking for peace.
US just tries to justify their actions.

WW3? = Total war? Millions of young men rallies behind there flag, millions of woman working 24/7 making guns etc, brutal labour camps? Humans can be very ingenious when it comes to killing each other when you consider what we got at oure disposal these days.

I hope it will never happen.

So what will happen to the Bitcoin and the other crypto-currencies in case of a third world war? Is there a chance of the exchange rates increasing? Or will the Bitcoin become worthless?

I'm new in this kind of stuff, but I really think that in case of war price of Bitcoin (Crypto currencies) would increase:
1. if war would come to the most developed part of the world, there would be a lot of lost Bitcoins (imagine bomb in a big city in which there are 1000 bit coin users, all of that bitcoins would be lost forever in case of lost password or death)
2. I haven't really checked yet, but i think that big part of crypto currencies are spent on black markets (for war you need guns which you can buy with Crypto currencies -> which means demand goes up -> value goes up)
So all in all, i think this are two reasons why Bitcoin would become more valuable. Probably there are reasons why it would decrease its value, but i don't know them yet :D

Well maybe but there will be little to no electricity by that time so I don't think bitcoin will go up during the war but after the war. For sure fiat will fall down in value as well but to store wealth gold will be better. Guns demand will go up during the war but not bitcoin's demand since gun can be bought using fiat or any other currencies out there.

Just hope that war does not happen, and oppression soon stops, maybe then the world will grow for the better. But when that happens, there will be a lot of dark transactions, and bitcoin will probably be an important point of all transactions that occur.

In some extreme, bitcoin may get more benefits out of emergency situations like war. Yes, some people needs not to depend on their banks/governments but they medium of exchanges for that bitcoin could be a right option in many reasonable ways.

But, I do feel finding positive sides of war just for better future of one payment system or investment benefits must be not a humanity action. We must pray for no war to trigger out. We must voice for peace all the times. One big worst we may see from war, atomic radiations which may kill internet operations and bitcoin may get affected in that situations, yes we really do not need war.

Correct there may be some proxy wars where the world powers fight each other indirectly to raise their influence in a region but an open conflict between superpowers is not going to happen for the simple reason a conflict like that will destroy the entire world.

We fight in the undercurrents the war is economic strategy the physical brute force is just what we use as a deterrent.
That said it would have been worse under Clinton the plan is written decades in advance the pawn at the top might be different but there are enough underpinnings to keep the program running relatively to the agenda.
BTC will just have more fun running up ^^

In the entire history of mankind there are just a few short years without wars, there is always a war somewhere so this is nothing new, also the US is always at war with someone whether is a war with guns or it is a cold war fought in space, the economy or sports.

War(s) are already happening (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts), as already said by others. But I wanted to share the link and image to show the magnitude - these are the countries actually active in some kind of war or armed conflict:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg/800px-Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg.png

(Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ongoing_conflicts_around_the_world.svg), CC-BY-SA, Author (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Futuretrillionaire))

To the concrete scenario the OP describes (a "Pacific War"), I think it would not have the devastating effect on Bitcoin (network breakdown) that some fear here. The network will still continue living and perhaps the price will even rise in the case of unstability of the fiat currencies of the war participants.

The most problematic scenario could be the danger that if this conflict really escalates and China's mainland is attacked, the Chinese mining farms could be cut off from the network. That would rise the risk of a 51% attack a bit because of a difficulty drop, although it wouldn't probably be only dangerous if there is really an actor with a wish to destroy the network.

I can assure you nothing will happen if God doesn't want it to happen and if He wants something to happen nothing and no one can stop it.
US government should stop bullying other countries, can't they see the mighty great empires much powerful and bigger than them has fallen and vanished in the past? all we see from them are only 0.5% of their empires, buildings etc.
Do they really think that God gave them a vast land and full of resources just so they can walk on earth and cause havoc and destruction instead of being grateful and use them for good.

One thing to mention, even if war happens and even if internet connections be interrupted worldwide our bitcoins are safe and we'd have at least 2 weeks to get back in to the game before hostile parties could attack the network.

SMH you think we wanted Trump as President? Trump got crushed in the popular vote.http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/) The only reason he won is he probably paid off people in the electoral college. I doubt war will come anyhow. Also if you think most of Americans are premium/rich people, you are really delusional. "Currently, the richest 1% hold about 38% of all privately held wealth in the United States. while the bottom 90% held 73% of all debt. According to The New York Times, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more wealth than the bottom 90 percent"." -- http://www.businessinsider.com/inequality-in-the-us-is-much-more-extreme-than-you-think-2015-6 (http://www.businessinsider.com/inequality-in-the-us-is-much-more-extreme-than-you-think-2015-6)

Trump is a lot more entertaining than corrupted Hillary tho.
At least give him that.
America had to choose between worse and worst.

Sad story but it describes a rotten 'democracy' system.

Trump has lots off $ (whats a shitcoin btw, I dont hold any) because of this he could run for president.
Hillary could run for president because she had the right 'connections'. Just a shady job lobby game.

A leader should be shosen because of their capabilities, not how many people their husband knows or how many $ he/she owns.
No democracy in there. 

2017 is going to be a sad year  :( I think yes all this drama will have an impact on the bitcoin value. As well there is the french election currently wich can also make something to the bitcoin value, I know there are lot of people waiting this to see what's going to happen. This + That can make the bitcoin value higher
Trump is mental ill, and it's not me who say it, it is doctors specialist. Why do you guys keep to continue believing US medias ? Specially when you know they lie. I know what kind of shit they make you drink. Now you are in trouble with this guy, and believe it or not, he doesn't give a shit to the citizens. If you read the book "Manufacturing Consent" from Noam Chomsky, you won't watch TV anymore LOL... Good luck with Trump !

I don't know how I feel about yet another intervention. I don't like it but Korea's nuclear ambitions will eventually make it unavoidable, so rather sooner than later.

As for the idea that North Korea will turn into a quagmire like the Middle-East, that's not going to happen. There's no sectarianism brooding underneath the Korean regime. People may be influenced by propaganda but they aren't stupid neither are they stupid. The lack of ethnic and religious tensions will make the unwinding of the classic regime much more akin to the Soviet block and Vietnam. Don't worry about a second Syria on the doorstep of China. Not going to happen.

Look the contradiction on your post. You believe the doctor "specialist" announced by the media as an irrefutable fact, but accuses who endorses Trump to be manipulated by the same media?

I know the big media lies, that is one of the reasons to endorse Trump and any other who has courage to challenge mainstream corporations and forces of this world. The internet is here to help us find informations the media doesn't say.

The old leftist attempt to intimidate people by saying "don't watch TV" doesn't work anymore, the information now is decentralized and it's on the internet.

It has not been on the medias first. Medias republished the story but nice try...Tv make the human brain dirty. Most humans are too weak to not be affected by the TV. Brief better to stay on topic as to will a possible war will affect the bitcoin price...

The thing with the internet news which is good and bad is that there is no censorship nor verification if the article is true or not.  Lots of writers exaggerate to the point it even kills the articles purpose.  All they aim is to have a view in order for the site to be monetized.  Anyway,  I never believe trump ever endorse Bitcoin, and maybe war will happen, maybe not.  Let us just enjoy the peaceful days rather than terrorizing our mind with world war thought.

Media republishes lies and inaccurated news.


Yes, that is why Hillary had so many votes.


Ok. Trump success is the America success which represents the civilized world success also, which means free speech guaranteed for all and individual decisions respected since it doesn't affect other's lifes. If there were a war, what is improbable to happen, it wouldn't last forever and if the good forces win this war, everything would become better than before after some time, probably rising the Crypto-Currency adoption.


There are sites and sites, related politic decentralized sites built reputation on last years and are much more trustworthy than media sponsored by billionary "philanthropists" and another people trying to look humanitarian on front of cameras.

It's always better to avoid the war, but when the enemy knows you will avoid it forever, they will do what they want with you...

Correct, one of my favorite South Park episodes is Douche and Turd where one of the kids refuses to vote because he does not like any of the candidates on the ballot, this shows that most of the time you don’t really have a choice, they are one and the same and fighting over it is useless, eventually that episode became the base for one of themes of the 20 season of South Park.

I agree with you. Sometimes people do not have a choice and they choose the candidate they do not want, and which in their opinion will do less harm to the country and life. This situation is in many countries.
But I hope that Trump will act wisely and will not bring the country to war

There will be electricity if war happens you think if they can't send bitcoin it will affect bitcoin pricing? Hell no it will affect bitcoin pricing when the volume of coins will start to decrease that the bomb of the wold war 3 or what ever war it will be.

Yes IF you cant send your BTC the price will plumb to $100 or less. Its useless when you cant send it.

Example: Person A wants to send X btc to person B. He sends it but its internetconnection goes off or the elektricity goes off. BTC's lost. GG.
I had this experience myself a month ago. RIP 2 BTC. It will affect the price, permanent.

You're overthinking it. The power can't go down around the world or in a whole country just like that. Different cities and regions are powered by different plants and usually more than 1 is connected to the same part of a grid. If a power plant gets bombed you only partially lose power in that area. To completely blackout a city you'd have to nuke it and then nobody would worry about their computers not working.
If you lose power while sending a transaction it doesn't get propagated and you can rescan and propagate it again once your power comes back.

war in korea island still wait and see,still wait first attack
maybe north korea or south korea first attack can accident war, withou attack is never war
this now war only in syria, rusia and USA playing in there

syiria war nothing effect in economic, dollar value, gold value, oil value not effect price in syiria war
i think is same if korea war accident not effect in economic, because only local war same with syiria

I don't think it is going to be happen even though USA attack North Korea, and why did you mentioned South Korea and Japan too? These countries has nothing to be involved as they have a peaceful country.
Bitcoin won't crash because this problem except if nuclear war affected worldwide which cause all of electronic stuff collapse, if not bitcoin price maybe decline but will recover and rise again in my opinion.
Gold still become precious thing that has higher price but it's not easy to move around without getting caught or robbed, better to use fiat money and keep your gold in a safe place.

You got it exactly backwards - war is good for the economy if you're selling the weapons. Google: military keynesianism - it's the only way USA can save their shitbird economy.  And what better excuse than war to default on the trillions of debt the Chinese own?

As stated war is good for economies who are the biggest suppliers of weapons. Right now US is the one to grow their economy through weapon trade. Already Chinese government have printed currencies of their own to eliminate the debt. So it doesn't seem to be a prolonged problem.

I hope that too, the world is not even close to being perfect but it is way better than a world that is at war as it happened two times already, and with the menace of a nuclear altercation that will not only affect the countries participant on it but it will affect all the countries on the world.

The more drama the better. Every time fiat based financial markets and politics influence each other bitcoin will only gain momentum.
Exactly, bitcoin price can only go higher, no matter the news.

It is just me or you contradicted yourself here? You say that president Trump is mentally ill, but how do you know that? From american media, I suppose.
You know they lie :)

Please tell me your source of unbiased and true news.

I just hope that it does not happen. So much oppression happens in different countries, even, even if it keeps the bitcoin price up, I still do not want it. Well, that might make a lot of people depressed. Should not we be better off working together, rather than taking the right by force?

I also hope that this will not happen. I live in a country where there is a war. After 300 kilometer from me people are killed. It's very scary.
I have a hope for the government of many countries that should not allow war