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April 16, 2017, 10:47:41 AM |
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I had big hopes in Trump. Just like I had in Obama 8 years ago. But the media and US government did it again. They fooled us. Made us think Hillary will bring WWIII but at the same time made us think that Trump is a nightmare for the western world and their goals to destroy middle east. Well played. Now they got installed a psycho as president.
Now, on many sources I´ve read, that war is coming soon. Japan, China, South Korea, North Korea and USA. Of course USA is playing the world police again and the scenario is written already. They act like they have to go against evil North Korea. Use of nuklear weapons pretty much possible. At the end, all I hope is that the US will see how war is. I hope the war will not be in Europe, middle east etc. I hope it will come to you Uncle Sam. In your country. Kill you premium humans and your children.
Whatever. What do you guys think will happen with the BTC price if this scenario will come true in a few weeks?
I have pretty much all my cash in Bitcoin and I am not sure if everything would go to hell if these psychos start this war? I guess they will cut most of the internet connection in the world, so people can not communicate and nobody will know whats going on in the world. So they can do their crimes and we have to start believing the shit in the newspapers again.
Not sure what to do with them coins now? I guess Fiat money will also be useless in war. Switch all to gold?
If the war starts im sure btc will be unusable since I think internet connection would be cut off resulting to never moving price or a low bitcoin price. Fiat I think will have worth but it is not that much and gold might have worth too. For sure if war happens the world would be chaotic so better prepare ourselves for fighting and our bitcoin stash safe and sound so that we will have some money to return to if war will end. Yes, in the event of a world nuclear war, many currencies will depreciate. Perhaps only gold will represent at least some value.
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April 16, 2017, 10:56:50 AM |
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Smart. Why would you go all in on Bitcoin though? Aren't you putting too much time and money in Bitcoin? Since Bitcoin is pretty much made by a human being what makes you want to put a bunch of money into it during a war?
Bitcoin isn't worth more than Gold so I don't see how Bitcoin will help in that situation. Gold been around plenty of wars and look at where it is right now, pretty expensive now days.
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April 16, 2017, 11:10:53 AM |
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Just because of the war I don't think that the bitcoin usage comes to an end. Right now the boiling of war moves were found hard between two countries who have got good weapons. But this won't affect the entire bitcoin network. Only those countries gets affected a little.
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April 16, 2017, 11:18:24 AM |
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Trump games will not affect the price of bitcoin, only can slow down its growth a little. In any case, by the end of the year, bitcoin will grow.
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April 17, 2017, 04:21:39 PM |
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Trump games will not affect the price of bitcoin, only can slow down its growth a little. In any case, by the end of the year, bitcoin will grow.
Trump's games won't affect; but a full blown war will. We have gotten used to extended times of peace (apart from small localized conflicts). A war will affect all asset classes, including Bitcoin.
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April 17, 2017, 06:54:41 PM |
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Trump games will not affect the price of bitcoin, only can slow down its growth a little. In any case, by the end of the year, bitcoin will grow.
Trump's games won't affect; but a full blown war will. We have gotten used to extended times of peace (apart from small localized conflicts). A war will affect all asset classes, including Bitcoin. From my perspective, Trump has made a good move, it was planned very precisely I think, because the president order to bomb the Syria was during conversation between Trump and China leader, they were speaking about North Korea case. The purpose of that bombing was to show the China president that Trump is not afraid to use his power even against independent country, that was supposed to show that he won't be afraid of China if bombing North Korea will be necessary. As you said, we had peace on most of the planet for a long time. We got used to it, but the possibility of war between some big countries has raised among last years.
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April 17, 2017, 07:28:19 PM Last edit: April 17, 2017, 07:39:26 PM by MatDerKater |
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What do you guys think will happen with the BTC price if this scenario will come true in a few weeks?
If there was a big war, and god forbid there was any kind of 'lights out' scenario in China, then that would be very bad for Bitcoin. On the otherhand, if there was a big war, it is unlikely to kick off at some agreed time, such 3pm, next Saturday afternoon with the replay being held the following Wednesday evening should the first round of the war end in a draw. i.e. Bitcoin's biggest potential in my view has always been capital flight from people who have savings in vulnerable currencies, which the CNY might well be in the run up to a situation that could result in a big war. Mind you, Chinese investors also have gold, with China being the both biggest producer and importer of physical gold, and a gold exchange having recently opened in Shanghai. What do you guys think will happen with the BTC price if this scenario will come true in a few weeks?
According to the Bitcoin weekly chart, Bitcoin has had it's big ramp. There is confirmed divergence between RSI and price action, with confirmed bearish structure in place on the weekly RSI. Bitcoin has had a momentus run up. an increase of around 400% overall. If you have caught all that, time to take some profits. Bitcoin has a potential hardfork event coming up and looking around other cryptos, those always mean instant losses. Gold on the otherhand is on the verge of breaking out of a 6 year bear market, having spent the last 2 years scraping along the floor. With the way geo-political events seem to be lining up, this chart seems to make sense. The Chinese and Russian central banks aren't stockpiling Bitcoin, they are stockpiling gold. The Chinese and Russian governments haven't just implemented Bitcoin as a means of settling international trade. They have just implemented gold as a means of doing this job. Take some of that Bitcoin, and buy some gold and hold onto it. Those gold coins will still be highly valued long after Bitcoin has went down in the history books as the very first failed crypto-currency attempt. I am bearish on Bitcoin at the moment, so my advice would be to sell it all, but of course, I might be wrong about that. Some other posters may butt in here and point out that I am a Bitcoin perma-bear, but this is not true. Look through the latter pages of my TA thread, and you will see that I have been touting $1500 BTC since Sept 2016, when Bitcoin was still in $500s, post the Finex scam. To me, it looks like BTC isn't going to get to $1500 on this move. Perhaps it will further down the line. Or perhaps it never will. Bitcoin is a hugely risky investment for someone to have 'all their cash in', with huge systemic risks in every direction that you look......take it from someone who has been robbed by two exchanges now (Kraken and Finex) and discovered the hard way how these places are set up in order that the operators can do what ever they please with complete impunity. Edit: I am also deeply dissappointed in Trump and cannot abide those who seek to find excuses for him or cover him with a rose tinted gloss. The great big bloated orange egotistical prick has either sold out, or is being controlled, or has taken everyone for a ride all along. I don't care which is the case. It is business as usual for the Evil Empire, and then some........never seen a US president act so belligerent towards North Korea before. A very dangerous regime controlled by the most dangerous man, with the most diabolical ego on the face of the planet (Kim Jong Un that is, although Trump and the US are probs a close 2nd).
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April 17, 2017, 07:34:21 PM |
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I hope it will come to you Uncle Sam. In your country. Kill you premium humans and your children.
Wow, there is someone angry with Uncle Sam here... I have only to thanks Mr. Trump and the good USA command to be the world police again, that was what good people from precarious countries were missing so much on the last decade, while their governments were stealing their people, Mr. Obama praised their corrupt leaders to avoid a conflit or just to be demagogic as he always was! The civilized nations of this world should help the precarious nations not by sending them medicines, food, clothes or some pennies, but helping them to achieve their INDEPENDENCY, LIBERTY by kicking thieves from the governments, especially if they are harmful for the world peace like in the North Korea and arabian countries! Trump is contradicting even the egoistic americans who worries only with themselves and don't want to involve on other's conflits. That would be negligence and worse later for the americans as they could let an "evil force" grows and becomes stronger to attack them later. Cut the evil by the root!
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April 17, 2017, 08:12:32 PM |
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What's the solution? Let NK continue their nuclear weapon development until they have reliable worldwide nuclear strike capability?
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April 17, 2017, 08:15:04 PM |
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Solution is simple like it has always been. In times of war: pick the weakest country: bomb it, plunder it, rob its people. Leave it. And all countries can work on their next plan for the next 'war'. Weak I mean wealth/army ratio. Its just about the money like it always has been.
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April 17, 2017, 08:41:47 PM |
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Solution is simple like it has always been. In times of war: pick the weakest country: bomb it, plunder it, rob its people. Leave it. And all countries can work on their next plan for the next 'war'. Weak I mean wealth/army ratio. Its just about the money like it always has been.
and WWII?
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April 17, 2017, 08:54:04 PM |
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Solution is simple like it has always been. In times of war: pick the weakest country: bomb it, plunder it, rob its people. Leave it. And all countries can work on their next plan for the next 'war'. Weak I mean wealth/army ratio. Its just about the money like it always has been.
and WWII? Exact same story. Started with an strong combined attack on weak Poland by USSR and the third reich. After they plotted a plan togheter they they plundered it, and robbed the Polish people. After that an attack on weak Holland and Belgium. No chance, easily robbed and defeated. After the third reich had too many enemies and they were heavily outnumbered America joined to defeat the helpless third reich togheter with the USSR and England to bomb it, rob it, rob its people (contract of paying USA back because the third reich 'started' the war). Germany defeated. Hmm middle east next, same story different place+time. North korea already happened before and will likely start again. There is always the same pattern. Last pure country that supports communism. Small, isolated. Lets bomb it. Lets invade it. Lets rob it. Lets rob its people. Leave it. Clear and simple.
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April 17, 2017, 08:59:03 PM |
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Omg I cant undestand this Americans how they dont like Donald Trump when he is a reallz good politician not like a Obama.He do that to North Corea because Corea dont have nuclear weapon prepared everthing is lie what they said because they want to protect own country and Trump can won that theitory when he want.
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April 17, 2017, 09:02:36 PM |
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Omg I cant undestand this Americans how they dont like Donald Trump when he is a reallz good politician not like a Obama.He do that to North Corea because Corea dont have nuclear weapon prepared everthing is lie what they said because they want to protect own country and Trump can won that theitory when he want.
Trump isnt a politician, he's a businessman. I really dont care about that little weak north korea country. They are already dead. Trying to compete with usa? Nobody can tell the tale.
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April 17, 2017, 09:11:21 PM |
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If war comes it come. It will be not the time to think on what will happen to our riches. Since we do not know if the heir would be alive by then. Besides, why worry that much? Just enjoy what is offered today and make the best out of it. If we worry what will happen tomorrow then we cannot notice the best things laid in front of us.
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April 17, 2017, 09:20:25 PM |
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I understand what OP talks about here, his concerns about war are real, its not something imaginary. What to with money, playing safely means that you should keep some bitcoins, buy some gold and for any case have some cash. They make so much weapons in past two decades, they need to spent that somewhere.
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April 17, 2017, 09:23:22 PM |
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I understand what OP talks about here, his concerns about war are real, its not something imaginary. What to with money, playing safely means that you should keep some bitcoins, buy some gold and for any case have some cash. They make so much weapons in past two decades, they need to spent that somewhere.
Already happening in the middle east, Africa, ISIS and other terrorism groups. MOAB used just a weak ago. No my friend, they are using weapons for years, and it will continue for ever because there is always 1 group that will use violence and others that will react to it.
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April 19, 2017, 12:41:11 AM |
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No it is not!
The middle east is already at war so we can't say for real something is going to start there. Syria and Israel are technically still at war.
And if we look at North Korea, well worse things have already happened there. There are a lot of people who start panicking .. war oh my god.. but this planet has never been entirely at peace, it is just that the wars have already been in the distance (speaking from the point of view of us). And it won't change.
Not it will affect the bitcoin price.
I can't imagine also if world war 3 if it happens. but all the superpowers to prevent main (United States, China and Russia) know that the war would not be good for either side. More than likely, everything will work without the war. What good will a war with the United Russia? It's not. They know that, you know, we all know it. the war that will take millions of souls who do not fault.dan world will be partially destroyed, the world economy will be a crisis in all things do not occur until comrades. still keep the peace of the world.
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April 19, 2017, 09:39:44 AM |
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Omg I cant undestand this Americans how they dont like Donald Trump when he is a reallz good politician not like a Obama.He do that to North Corea because Corea dont have nuclear weapon prepared everthing is lie what they said because they want to protect own country and Trump can won that theitory when he want.
Trump isnt a politician, he's a businessman. I really dont care about that little weak north korea country. They are already dead. Trying to compete with usa? Nobody can tell the tale. Though the country is little, it has the power to make some impact on the growth of US if the war explodes. Every nation has weapons that they keep it secure and reveal a limited list. US could have already made a war, but fearing the atomic war it have been waiting long. So we cannot underestimate North Korea.
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April 19, 2017, 09:45:02 AM |
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Omg I cant undestand this Americans how they dont like Donald Trump when he is a reallz good politician not like a Obama.He do that to North Corea because Corea dont have nuclear weapon prepared everthing is lie what they said because they want to protect own country and Trump can won that theitory when he want.
Trump isnt a politician, he's a businessman. I really dont care about that little weak north korea country. They are already dead. Trying to compete with usa? Nobody can tell the tale. Though the country is little, it has the power to make some impact on the growth of US if the war explodes. Every nation has weapons that they keep it secure and reveal a limited list. US could have already made a war, but fearing the atomic war it have been waiting long. So we cannot underestimate North Korea. North korea cant even launch a proper rocket. They wont have a chance. USA can launch rockets from south korea. The north is isolated. It was just a matter of time before the democratic countries are going to destroy the last communism country. We saw it at Cuba, North Korea is just the next one.
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