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today i get information about new mining card from asus.
specs:
MINING-RX470-4G
AMD RadeonTM RX 470
OpenGL® 4.5
4GB GDDR5
Boost clock : 1206 MHz Base clock :926 MHz
2048
7000 MHz (1750 MHz GDDR5)
256 bit
1 x Native DVI-D
1*8pin
ASUS GPU Tweak II & Driver
The card size is 24.0 x 13.0 x 3.89 cm The card size is 9.4 x 5.1 x 1.5 inches

i also found this on official link, any idea about release date or rates?
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/

Thanks for the link.. I was waiting to see something official.. This is great news because I was waiting to buy a huge number of mining cards anyway. Thanks again man.

Any info on the price range?

No data on availability or price available that I've found.

 Also, why did they put SLOW MEMORY on a "mining" card?

 This thing better be LOW COST if they expect it to sell - though given current "availability" issues, they probably will get away with it even if it's not for a while....

It's based on the RX 470 4GB which has the same memory clock and is already the best cost/hash mining card on the planet.

There is a lot of demand in Turkey

How much is the price ?

 Not at CURRENT pricing on the RX 470 - when you can find them at all - and only ever was true for ETH/ETC/derivatives and possibly a very few "small-market-cap" coins if you limit the list to NEW cards.
 (My R9 290s cost me $180 from Newegg in a timeframe that the lowest-cost RX 470 there was the SAME price, but outhash pretty much all RX 480s much less RX 470s).

 Prior to the current "AMD shortage price gouge" the 470 *could* at least argue that point - though a lot of low-cost 480 and 580 cards could argue the point due to higher hashrate and not much higher price.


 What's odd is that they have this card and the 106 Nvidia varient listed on their "main" website - but they direct US customers by default to www.asus.com/us/ by default (and I have not found a workaround for the main web page to date, just for "further in" ones) which does NOT list these cards at all.

 The odder part is that it's 470 based instead of 570 based - I wonder if that's why some rumors are talking about "limited run", the GPU chips might be comming from previously rejected chips that were fine EXCEPT for the video-specific part of the chip?

It must be rx470, no way they will label rx 570 as rx 570 is a new series, they don't want to taint its name. These mining cards are all second grade hardware, trust me, reason why they are giving 3 months warranty. They just want to get rid of defective things and no better than the desperate stupid miners hehe. If I were you I would boycott it and stick with gaming gpu's.

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm. The R9 for the same price as a RX 470 is based on that the R9 is a two year old card, uses twice the power and is not as efficient in cost/hash to a RX 470 when the power consumption is factored in. I have all three RX 480/580 8GB and 570 4GB cards and the performance difference for just about any algorithm is not worth the extra ~$50 for the RX 480/580. Nvidia options are nowhere near the RX 470/570 4GB in a cost/hash basis, which why I said the RX 470 4GB is the best mining card for the price on just about any algorithm.

I don't have the Asus Expedition edition, but it looks like Asus Dual and those fans are terrible! GPU quality also isn't the best but still good. They should made the mining card with Strix cooling.

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

Actually I bought four new Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards for $190 each less than two weeks ago. If you buy the cards right and don't give in to the hype, then I don't think that will change. You also keep saying the RX 470/570 is only good for certain algorithms, first only for ETH based coins and "small-market-cap coins" and now you say the opposite LARGE MARKET CAP coins. Modding the memory timings only affects memory based algorithms. For others like Equihash it has almost no effect. How about you just name an algorithm and a card that supposedly does better than a RX 470/470 4GB card on a cost/hash basis?

Anyone already have this on-hand? Would like to know if there is significant increase in hash rate compared to normal rx 470s. Thanks

RX cards are going to be obsolete for mining Ether in a few months...increase in DAG size.

How can there be? Look at it! read the specs! Stock its not going to be any faster!

Its irrelevant anyway, too little too late. The only feasible choice for new cards is Nvidia. Their 1060 mining card makes more sense in that aspect.

That is nonsense based on Claymore future epoch benchmarks, which are only an estimate and in my own testing I found to be overstated. It also assumes that there is nothing AMD can do from a driver or Bios update issue to correct the problem. From a hardware platform standpoint, I don't think there is anything that keeps AMD from being able to address it.

This video does a good job explaining why the Dag epoch issue with the RX cards is overstated. Even if the Dag issue is not corrected, there are at least 6 months left where the RX series can mine ETH and dual mine with other coins effectively compared to other alternatives on a cost/hash basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQE9WdhupAg

We've already seen the drops from recent epochs... why the fuck take a chance when you can sell you AMD cards for a free upgrade to a 1070? Doesn't make sense does it? If you have the capability to help yourself, and get more performance all at no cost to you, why wouldn't you do it?

Loosers.

On the same link in mining series they are launcing nvidia mining card as well, MSI will also launch same mining series soon

Profitability is going down rapidly so it is a lost investment if you buy these cards now for mining you will not make ROI for at least 5-6 months for a card which is a big time in crypto. I can agree with you if you want to just mine coins and hold them for a future when price will  be higher.

 Some of the Sapphire mining-specific cards are listed on NewEgg - but "out of stock".
 What I don't get about the MSI card listings I've seen is that they don't have the fins running horizontal - what's the point of expanding the holes in the bracket when the air doesn't GO that way.
 Sapphire and Asus have the cooling fins going the right way.

The Asus Expedition cooling is very bad... It's like Asus Dual, those fans are very noisy. I don't know why they don't use Strix cooling.

They are not even using dual ball bearing as stated...

what? its one of the reasons I chose them (and cheap, as well)

still waiting for anything to come from this "rumor"
hahahahahah

The Sapphire cards are available - in fairly small quantities.

 I managed to sneak in one order on Newegg, card arrived last night (didn't have time to work with it yet).

 IMO though they should have dropped the DVI connector and kept one of the HDMI connectors, then opened up the mounting plate a lot more since they DO have the find pointed the right way it would actually have HELPED cooling on non-riser rigs.


 Up side - no bloody backplate (unlike the Nitro cards these seem to be based on).




 Too many folks and many newbies have gotten spoiled - between the Litecoin/X11 crash and the massive price jump starting about 3 months back for most altcoins, 5-6 months to achieve 100% ROI was quite GOOD.

 The sub-3 month ROI seen if you got in at just the right point recently was a MAJOR abberation in cryptocoin mining, and has only been seen 2 or perhaps 3 times for a few months at a time.

Are you still planning to buy huge number of cards?

Any updates specifically on the reported hashrate for these ASUS mining cards? Do they perform significantly better than regular rx470?
Note: My rx470s mine ETH at around 26-27 MH dual mining.

Im test running some Asus Mining 470-4G at the moment but Im stuck at 25MH@85W. Its the Hynix memories on the card and the MAx Power Limit is about 85W. But does anyone now to get 30MH ETH with 85W? I havent managed to get that out of the card with claymore miner. windows 10.

Have you got any numbers to share?

I hawe 25 Mh Ethas and 700 H for Monero

None of the mining cards I saw were better than gaming ones...

The price was just what attracted,I paid in Finland 290€ with 24% VAT

Looks like that but I wonder if they got the energy consumption down... Mine is running 25MH @ 85W right now.

Vetevana: What miners are you using ?

Claymore Dual 10.0 and Claymore cryptonote gpu

do you have any idea how much can we get if I use rx570 4gb?  just curios with you hash rate I'm using nicehash without mods I only getting
21 hash any idea how much will it rise if I will try to mod my rig? thanks for your insight if ever you will share your thoughts good luck,.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2162867.msg21659072#msg21659072

before bios timing i hawe only 20-21 MH on ETH now 24,5, Music 21,6-21,8 now 25-26  driver 17.9.1 AFB power 0,core 1000,mem 2000

yours GPUs Asus Mining RX 470 G4?

Thats interesting and you hav ethe 470rx mining edition from asus?

I tried to clock the memories @ 2000Mhz I guess I got memory errors and the hashrate dropped on Etherium by 4MH from 24MH to 21MH. I had the voltages on 950. But i didnt raise the TDP/TDC. so I guess I need to try to raise them first. TDP@85W and TDC@74A

I need to raise the TDP/TDC a little. By the way MPL stands for?

This looks like the next buy, which motherboard you are using for the ASUS RX470-4G?

Can you send screenshot of your bios (in polaris bios editor) to copy those edits. I know that you said what did you changed but just want to be shure like that too.

Thanks

I have the same card but when I atiflash the modded bios, I get an driver error and the card is not recognized anymore...
Can you tell me which driver you use ?
Or maybe upload the moded bios ?
Thnx.

Have you patch your driver using https://www.monitortests.com/atikmdag-patcher-1.4.5.zip ?

No, I did it now and now it works !
Thank you!

Is this gpus still in stock? I don't think mining edition is attractive these days.

I would love to know what the hash rate is of this card against epoch 144 for example.
I just get 23 mh/s on my powercolor RX 470 with 4gb of ram using a mem speed of 2100 and core clock of 1126.

I expect this card mines the same?
I want to make sure i dont buy something and i am not happy with it because it mines much slower.

This card is in stock , yes. It is a new rival for most countries.

Almost all the mining cards are bad. They don't use top quality chips.

3 months warranty, what would people expect anyway hehe and they are selling them for $300 each, what a rip off, if it was $170 then maybe people could gamble on it.

when there will be new mining drivers?or not?

So would u rather for example buy any GTX 1060 3GB non-mining card?
same question for AMD , like PowerColor RX470 4GB ?

I mean i dont understand how they say dual bearing high end quality stuff and then even dust resistant, for the Asus mining card for example.

That surely can not be STOCK ?

This picture means nothing to me. Please show me more, for fuck sake.
How do i make out what the hell that refers to , come on man.
And surely this is not standard factory bios we are talking about.

How the heck do u get speeds of 28, this is amazing, i thought even o-clocked cards are struggling with the whole EPOCH nonsense.

Also, do you recommend these ASUS Mining cards then as apposed to another poster here who says they are made of poor quality parts.
Or do you reckon i am better off buying a PowerColor RX470 instead

The mining cards can do 28-29MH/s mostly, only Samsung can have more. They are still pretty overpriced, most gaming cards can have same or even better results for lower price.

Thank you for that, please can you educate me regarding the PWC abbreviation.
Then, would you recommend or suggest i rather get a PowerColor RX470 Red Dragon or PowerColor RX470 Red Devil  (they both 4GB) and i have to specify with no bios mod, the PowerColor RX470 i have with Samsung , runs at 23.3 MH/s at EPOCH 144. Or do i get the Asus Mining card instead.
I am  just not sure. They are priced the same here, BUT the PowerColors i can get are Recertified with 9 Months warranty on the Red Devil 470 and a bit more on the Red Dragon RX480
As far as i know they are both 8 pin connectors... and they run well on Power too never exceeding 120 Watt.

In terms of your experience or what you know from others that have experienced..... memory is a lucky draw....because i dont know until i buy the card....
Please just tell me, do i go Powercolor RX470 or RX480 or ASUS Mining Edition

so i should not fall for the whole dual bearing and nice words?
also i was told although they are said to be dust resistent, the mining cards come with a shorter warranty....


so is this also extra reason to say , rather buy powercolor 470 rather than a Asus Mining card ?

I got some Powercolor 570 and I'm only getting 23 Mh/s I'm not sure if this can bring something when eth went high but right now I'm just taking this
so I can hold some eth after this year, I was aiming for Asus before but after reading here I got the idea to keep my gpu and add some more when
I got some extra cash.

Good choice but There should be a calculation for the gain obtained.

You should mod the bios for better hashrate, you can use my guide.

I think the RX 570 the Sapphire Nitro+ is doing the same Mhash as RX 580 Sapphire Nitro+, both on stock settings the 4GB cards are doing 24.5 Mhash with Hynix memory which cannot be overclocked. The test was made by me when I set up a few miners for some friends and I set up at least 50 mining rigs with ASROCK H81 PRO BTC and RX 570 and RX 580 cards from Sapphire Nitro+. Strange it was the 4GB versions as those are the cards I had were doing the same in Nicehash benchmark 24.52 to 24.7 mhash. Best to go with RX 570 as they consume less and make the same in stock settings. With a bios mod the RX 580 can go up to 31 mhash while RX 570 up to 28-29 mhash but with stock settings they are the same.

 As opposed to the Sapphire "mining cards" which appear to be standard Nitro parts with the video circuitry and connectors removed (except for one DVI connector on SOME models), and the mounting bracket changed.

 Mine even still have the "Nitro" stickers on the fans....

I have decided to  buy RX470 PowerColor second hand with 6 months warranty remaining.
*I paid for the item

I am scarwed to buy the mining card and its a piece of junk , but somehow from the reviews lots of people say they are happy with them

I just need help to flash mine though.

I tried this with the one card and i gained 1 MH for Ether, maybe not doing it properly?
Or i dont know the ins and outs.

I´m looking for efficiency, the cost of electricity is too high where I live.

So mine Asus Rx470 4Gb Mining are running like this:

Core Voltage: 881mv
Core Clock: 1230 Mhz
Memory Clock: 2000
Fan Speed: in auto around 50%
Temp after 12 hours: 60ºC
Power Draw: 58W

Bios Mod: 1500 -> 2000

Driver: Amd BlockChain

Around 28,3MHs each GPU

Rig with 4 GPU, running in the wall 500W and 113,2 MHs

I´m satisfied with it!

Regards all!!!
 

What is your driver for getting 28mh/s? Can you give us a link?

We as Cizgi Elektronik are the distributor of Asus for the last 26 years. Here are the results of Asus Mining RX470-4G.  OC settings, performance hashrates for single mining and dual mining and the mod file (.ROM)

http://transfer.cizgitagem.org/nsaral/asus_mining_rx470/per1.jpg

http://transfer.cizgitagem.org/nsaral/asus_mining_rx470/

Please u need to help me set mine up , i dont even get 22 megahashes anymore
I now have 2 PowerColors RX470, but for some reason they have different clock speeds.
when i lower the core and up the ram i get very unstable speed and then after a while the speed of the GPUs is stupid, for example, like 150 solutions in zcash, and say 12 to 16 mh/s in ether.
not good.

Hi everyone.

I picked up a 470 but I am unable to mod the bios. After I do the driver does not load.  I have used ATIWinFlash to update and then the patcher but no luck. What am I missing?  My 580 all updated without this issue.

Thanks

 Hashrate 28.6 MHash/s
 Algorithm Ethereum
 Manufacturer Asus
 Power Consumption 140
 Core Clock 1160 MHz
 Memory Clock 2050 MHz
 OS Ubuntu

 Description
The Asus Rx 470 4G provides hashrate of 28.6 MHash/s for Ethereum at Coreclock 1160 MHz and Memoryclock 2050 MHz while consuming 140 watts.


 Gpu Specs

The AMD Rx 470 4G is a graphics card by AMD. It comes with GDDR5 memory and has 256 bit memory interface or bus width.

Inside Rx 470 4G there is an Ellesmere graphics processor chip which has 2048 shaders. The base operating core clock speed of Rx 470 4G is 926 MHz and memory clock speed is 1650 MHz.

For rendering purpose it comes with 32 render output unit's and 128 texture mapping unit's.
 
https://miningchamp.com/gpus/121/Asus-Rx-470-4G-hashrate