ASUS MINING-RX470-4G

[sstercan]

today i get information about new mining card from asus.
specs:
MINING-RX470-4G
AMD RadeonTM RX 470
OpenGL® 4.5
4GB GDDR5
Boost clock : 1206 MHz Base clock :926 MHz
2048
7000 MHz (1750 MHz GDDR5)
256 bit
1 x Native DVI-D
1*8pin
ASUS GPU Tweak II & Driver
The card size is 24.0 x 13.0 x 3.89 cm The card size is 9.4 x 5.1 x 1.5 inches

[fonship]

i also found this on official link, any idea about release date or rates?
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/

[Guvn0r]

i also found this on official link, any idea about release date or rates?
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/

Thanks for the link.. I was waiting to see something official.. This is great news because I was waiting to buy a huge number of mining cards anyway. Thanks again man.

[Ahead]

Any info on the price range?

[QuintLeo]

No data on availability or price available that I've found.

 Also, why did they put SLOW MEMORY on a "mining" card?

 This thing better be LOW COST if they expect it to sell - though given current "availability" issues, they probably will get away with it even if it's not for a while....

[Vann]

No data on availability or price available that I've found.

 Also, why did they put SLOW MEMORY on a "mining" card?

 This thing better be LOW COST if they expect it to sell - though given current "availability" issues, they probably will get away with it even if it's not for a while....

It's based on the RX 470 4GB which has the same memory clock and is already the best cost/hash mining card on the planet.

[baskanx]

There is a lot of demand in Turkey

How much is the price ?

[QuintLeo]

No data on availability or price available that I've found.

 Also, why did they put SLOW MEMORY on a "mining" card?

 This thing better be LOW COST if they expect it to sell - though given current "availability" issues, they probably will get away with it even if it's not for a while....

It's based on the RX 470 4GB which has the same memory clock and is already the best cost/hash mining card on the planet.

 Not at CURRENT pricing on the RX 470 - when you can find them at all - and only ever was true for ETH/ETC/derivatives and possibly a very few "small-market-cap" coins if you limit the list to NEW cards.
 (My R9 290s cost me $180 from Newegg in a timeframe that the lowest-cost RX 470 there was the SAME price, but outhash pretty much all RX 480s much less RX 470s).

 Prior to the current "AMD shortage price gouge" the 470 *could* at least argue that point - though a lot of low-cost 480 and 580 cards could argue the point due to higher hashrate and not much higher price.


 What's odd is that they have this card and the 106 Nvidia varient listed on their "main" website - but they direct US customers by default to www.asus.com/us/ by default (and I have not found a workaround for the main web page to date, just for "further in" ones) which does NOT list these cards at all.

 The odder part is that it's 470 based instead of 570 based - I wonder if that's why some rumors are talking about "limited run", the GPU chips might be comming from previously rejected chips that were fine EXCEPT for the video-specific part of the chip?

[Metroid]

It must be rx470, no way they will label rx 570 as rx 570 is a new series, they don't want to taint its name. These mining cards are all second grade hardware, trust me, reason why they are giving 3 months warranty. They just want to get rid of defective things and no better than the desperate stupid miners hehe. If I were you I would boycott it and stick with gaming gpu's.

[Vann]

No data on availability or price available that I've found.

 Also, why did they put SLOW MEMORY on a "mining" card?

 This thing better be LOW COST if they expect it to sell - though given current "availability" issues, they probably will get away with it even if it's not for a while....

It's based on the RX 470 4GB which has the same memory clock and is already the best cost/hash mining card on the planet.

 Not at CURRENT pricing on the RX 470 - when you can find them at all - and only ever was true for ETH/ETC/derivatives and possibly a very few "small-market-cap" coins if you limit the list to NEW cards.
 (My R9 290s cost me $180 from Newegg in a timeframe that the lowest-cost RX 470 there was the SAME price, but outhash pretty much all RX 480s much less RX 470s).

 Prior to the current "AMD shortage price gouge" the 470 *could* at least argue that point - though a lot of low-cost 480 and 580 cards could argue the point due to higher hashrate and not much higher price.


 What's odd is that they have this card and the 106 Nvidia varient listed on their "main" website - but they direct US customers by default to www.asus.com/us/ by default (and I have not found a workaround for the main web page to date, just for "further in" ones) which does NOT list these cards at all.

 The odder part is that it's 470 based instead of 570 based - I wonder if that's why some rumors are talking about "limited run", the GPU chips might be comming from previously rejected chips that were fine EXCEPT for the video-specific part of the chip?

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm. The R9 for the same price as a RX 470 is based on that the R9 is a two year old card, uses twice the power and is not as efficient in cost/hash to a RX 470 when the power consumption is factored in. I have all three RX 480/580 8GB and 570 4GB cards and the performance difference for just about any algorithm is not worth the extra ~$50 for the RX 480/580. Nvidia options are nowhere near the RX 470/570 4GB in a cost/hash basis, which why I said the RX 470 4GB is the best mining card for the price on just about any algorithm.

[Mattthev]

I don't have the Asus Expedition edition, but it looks like Asus Dual and those fans are terrible! GPU quality also isn't the best but still good. They should made the mining card with Strix cooling.

[QuintLeo]

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

[Vann]

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

Actually I bought four new Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards for $190 each less than two weeks ago. If you buy the cards right and don't give in to the hype, then I don't think that will change. You also keep saying the RX 470/570 is only good for certain algorithms, first only for ETH based coins and "small-market-cap coins" and now you say the opposite LARGE MARKET CAP coins. Modding the memory timings only affects memory based algorithms. For others like Equihash it has almost no effect. How about you just name an algorithm and a card that supposedly does better than a RX 470/470 4GB card on a cost/hash basis?

[jmigdlc99]

Anyone already have this on-hand? Would like to know if there is significant increase in hash rate compared to normal rx 470s. Thanks

[newtybar]

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

Actually I bought four new Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards for $190 each less than two weeks ago. If you buy the cards right and don't give in to the hype, then I don't think that will change. You also keep saying the RX 470/570 is only good for certain algorithms, first only for ETH based coins and "small-market-cap coins" and now you say the opposite LARGE MARKET CAP coins. Modding the memory timings only affects memory based algorithms. For others like Equihash it has almost no effect. How about you just name an algorithm and a card that supposedly does better than a RX 470/470 4GB card on a cost/hash basis?

RX cards are going to be obsolete for mining Ether in a few months...increase in DAG size.

[Juggar]

Anyone already have this on-hand? Would like to know if there is significant increase in hash rate compared to normal rx 470s. Thanks

How can there be? Look at it! read the specs! Stock its not going to be any faster!

Its irrelevant anyway, too little too late. The only feasible choice for new cards is Nvidia. Their 1060 mining card makes more sense in that aspect.

[Vann]

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

Actually I bought four new Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards for $190 each less than two weeks ago. If you buy the cards right and don't give in to the hype, then I don't think that will change. You also keep saying the RX 470/570 is only good for certain algorithms, first only for ETH based coins and "small-market-cap coins" and now you say the opposite LARGE MARKET CAP coins. Modding the memory timings only affects memory based algorithms. For others like Equihash it has almost no effect. How about you just name an algorithm and a card that supposedly does better than a RX 470/470 4GB card on a cost/hash basis?

RX cards are going to be obsolete for mining Ether in a few months...increase in DAG size.

That is nonsense based on Claymore future epoch benchmarks, which are only an estimate and in my own testing I found to be overstated. It also assumes that there is nothing AMD can do from a driver or Bios update issue to correct the problem. From a hardware platform standpoint, I don't think there is anything that keeps AMD from being able to address it.

This video does a good job explaining why the Dag epoch issue with the RX cards is overstated. Even if the Dag issue is not corrected, there are at least 6 months left where the RX series can mine ETH and dual mine with other coins effectively compared to other alternatives on a cost/hash basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQE9WdhupAg

[Juggar]

No, it's based on the fact that a $200 RX 470/570 4 GB card has the best cost/hash performance for just about any algorithm

 But try FINDING a 470/570 at $200 for the last month.
 I also disagree with the "just about any algorithm" part of that statement, though they WERE competitive to superior on the algos used in most or all of the LARGE MARKET CAP coins on both a hahs/$ and a hash/watt basis *IF YOU MODDED THE BIOS*, and fairly close even on non-modded cards.

 I do suspect they'll sell the things without a problem for a while - just based on there not being enough cards to go around at all - but once the "crash" happens, they're going to have to price them quite a bit less than the consumer version to get any sales at all due to the very very low resale value.

Actually I bought four new Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards for $190 each less than two weeks ago. If you buy the cards right and don't give in to the hype, then I don't think that will change. You also keep saying the RX 470/570 is only good for certain algorithms, first only for ETH based coins and "small-market-cap coins" and now you say the opposite LARGE MARKET CAP coins. Modding the memory timings only affects memory based algorithms. For others like Equihash it has almost no effect. How about you just name an algorithm and a card that supposedly does better than a RX 470/470 4GB card on a cost/hash basis?

RX cards are going to be obsolete for mining Ether in a few months...increase in DAG size.

That is nonsense based on Claymore future epoch benchmarks, which are only an estimate and in my own testing I found to be overstated. It also assumes that there is nothing AMD can do from a driver or Bios update issue to correct the problem. From a hardware platform standpoint, I don't think there is anything that keeps AMD from being able to address it.

This video does a good job explaining why the Dag epoch issue with the RX cards is overstated. Even if the Dag issue is not corrected, there are at least 6 months left where the RX series can mine ETH and dual mine with other coins effectively compared to other alternatives in a cost/hash basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQE9WdhupAg

We've already seen the drops from recent epochs... why the fuck take a chance when you can sell you AMD cards for a free upgrade to a 1070? Doesn't make sense does it? If you have the capability to help yourself, and get more performance all at no cost to you, why wouldn't you do it?

Loosers.

[fonship]

i also found this on official link, any idea about release date or rates?
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/

Thanks for the link.. I was waiting to see something official.. This is great news because I was waiting to buy a huge number of mining cards anyway. Thanks again man.

On the same link in mining series they are launcing nvidia mining card as well, MSI will also launch same mining series soon

[swogerino]

Profitability is going down rapidly so it is a lost investment if you buy these cards now for mining you will not make ROI for at least 5-6 months for a card which is a big time in crypto. I can agree with you if you want to just mine coins and hold them for a future when price will  be higher.