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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0

I would suggest reading up on the trust system.  The above link goes to the announcement topic from the Meta section.

I'm going to leave this thread unlocked for newbies to ask questions and help each other understand.  Useless replies and off-topic remarks will be deleted.


Edit - This is a useless reply:

I believe a trust system for BitCoin is an excellent idea.  It's always important that a trustworthy individual or company is running the system though, I am correct?

A lot of the trust about BitCoin services seems to come from this forum.  It seems that this forum is THE trust factor.

It's a good idea, and something I'll be keeping an eye on. Trust is so important on a forum like this. As long as one can have "trust" in the trust system it'll be a big help...

+1, very nice idea - also that you can provide proof threads!

regards

Thanks a lot for you job here, guys :)

I think it's a good idea in general but I can easily foresee blackmailers etc. trying to use it to downvote sellers and ruin their reputation.

Edit: It seems to me you mods are creating more and more work for yourself without needing too, you should just focus on keeping the spammers out more than anything.

Good System. The proof threads are a good idea to prevent random downvoting :-)

If someone is a blackmailer, then they shouldn't be trusted, hence their bad feedback shouldn't matter.  The system relies on people only adding people they trust to their network, otherwise it's pointless.  For example, my list is only a handful of people right now.

I think the trust system is a brilliant idea. I'm a relative Newbie and made my first transaction via a Bitcointalk member today and the trust system increased my confidence to trade. It was also nice to receive positive feedback for my part of the transaction. :)

Looks like one of you used the feedback system incorrectly.  The risked BTC should really only be used by the person who risked something.  The person who sent first would be the one who risked BTC, the second sender didn't risk anything because they had already received something, and they were just finishing the transaction.

I sent first, £10 GBP. I then received what I'd asked for which was 5 Litecoin. I used BTC-E for the conversion of 5 LTC to BTC which came out at a risk of 0.12 BTC, so I entered this figure in the risked BTC box. Is any of that procedure incorrect?

I believed you did it correctly, because you risked money.  So your feedback with him would include what you risked.  He's the one that took no risk with you and was incorrect.  He already had cash in hand before he sent anything.

I see it working now, that's quite a good idea, seeing how it goes will definitely be best, I'm just generally suspicious of that kind of thing but usually when people get genuinely outraged by something it's justified when it comes to the internet.

Credit to theymos I guess...this new addition is a good idea. I always thought it'd be cool if this site somehow integrated bitcoin-OTC but I think this is better. Bitcoin OTC-while encompassing all bitcoin transactions (not just ones on this site) is far too confusing for the average user (probably why not many people are on there). This system seems very user-friendly.

I am so glad you guys implemented this.  The WOT system is SO HARD to use if you are not an engineer.  The problem that system creates is that very few actually use it.  Integrating trust into this system is exactly what we need.  

I hope you'll all trust me as I build my reputation as an escrow agent. 

If you'd like to test me, pm me and send me btc.  I'll send it back.  Any amount you choose.  I'll send it right back minus any transmission fee (~0.005) the network may require.

Need an escrow agent because you don't know who to trust?  I'm your agent.

Try me, you will not be disappointed.

Upon further reflection I am not going to act as an escrow agent in these forums based upon the following important revelations:

1) You must be licensed to be an escrow agent in the USA
2) Becoming licensed requires a great deal of time and money 
    Getting licensed in all 50 states will cost at least $50k per year

I am still considering this but at this time this is a much more expensive undertaking that I had originally thought.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216729

What is with BTC trust after Homeland Security seizure?  ???

I can see a trust system working but I don't see how it could be decentralized unless the actual reputation statements are integrated into the BTC transaction blocks.  bitcointalk.org, for instance, could be an effective repository for feedback on transactions and the owners of the wallets involved but it is a single point of failure.  What if an asteroid or worse a govt goes in and destroys their servers.  Still, for reputations to work out, anonymity has to go out the window, which defeats a major benefit of bitcoin.  There may be a way to have our cake and eat it too and whoever figures that out deserves a serious "way to go!!"

Anything to help keep out the scammers is a good idea.
I am not exactly clear how the third vs. fourth numbers change.
It would be interesting to incorporate WOT, ebay  or other site feedback into the system.  That way people would not have to start from scratch.

how do you get "trust"?

People need to trust you and add you to their trust lists, plus feedback.  Read through the linked post.

As I understand it, ripple is meant to incorporate trust management in its core? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

BTW, if anyone has some ripple spare to head my way it would be greatly appreciated and repaid :)

ADDRESS REMOVED :)

Ripple may have trust management built in, but that has nothing to do with trust on the bitcointalk forums.

Also, removed your address as we don't allow begging here.

Right, sorry mate.

I checked the marketplace sections again and noticed the trust 0/0 thingy, hadn't noticed it before I read this forum. It's a great idea - except almost everyone I've looked at trading and offering srevices have 0/0 trust. Is that because we cannot see it as long as this silly newbie timer thing is running?

Trust is such a difficult challenge, and I meant to say, I really hope ripple will end up providing a solid solution to this technical (and social) challenge. As I said, would be even great to integrate it into forums somehow. I think how we've been doing it on irc for ages with the key exchanges is annoying and tedious as hell but understand why it is necessary. That could also be a more 'silent' or less public system, but its interesting I never noticed it before and thanks for pointing it out!

About the 'beg', woops, I'm honestly sorry about that. I did see the disclaimer about begging, and it goes without saying that is just poor etiquette, but I wasn't actually asking for monies, just a ripple 'invite' as this silly antispam/newbie lock came about since after I last posted years ago and never realised it had been introduced, and missed out on posting to ripple discussion board yet again. At the same time, I had completely no idea that it would be interpreted as that considering people display their hashes for btc/ltc (and ripple?) all over the shop, and figured it was common practise.

Once again, apologies. Won't happen again :)

Thanks for the great info!

Just read through the link and I think it's a pretty cool idea. I'm curious to see how it'll develop as the community continues to grow.

This is a good idea. I hope it does not degrade into something like the system on eBay, but this makes it easier for members to find out who to trust in transactions.

If there are blackmailers, people can post their information and they will be removed from any trust lists they're on. Untrusted feedback should be looked at critically, since you don't "trust" the person who left it. 

And this actually makes for less work, will make the scammer tag much less necessary (which was heavily reliant on admins/mods). 

It'd be even better if it was somehow built on top of a coin... like a trust coin or something

How would that help at all?  The point of the system is to have something integrated with the forums.  An alt-coin for this would do nothing for that.

I believe that the system,  when vigilantly maintained, will drown out the erroneous complaints of a few would-be blackmailers.

25 years ago on bbs (this one time, at band camp) we used to use a transit circle to build trust.
Anyone interested in knowing how this works?

I'm a developer and have been thinking about the bitcoin trust issue.
Here are my thoughts:

- The blockchain is not a good place for messaging.
So,
- Thinking of a website where registered users can 'claim' transactions or addresses as theirs, by using the public key message signing features.
- Users that have been validated as owning a transaction/address can make public comments about them.  (ie. there will be a page for the transaction/address, and then comments about the transaction from verified buyer/seller.)
- Registered users can make a profile to establish identity, with number of successful transactions as a trust signal, links to buyer/seller feedback, etc.
- If users do not own the transaction/address, they can be redirected somewhere else to comment (some forum, subreddit, etc.).

Will anyone here find that useful?

Definitely a cool idea, though it needs to be made easy for the average user to do everything (for it to succeed).

Web of trusts hardly work in the long run.   Look at SSL certificates and Ebay seller ratings.

Can't really compare this one to Ebay IMO, because only feedback from people in your 'trust network' is counted.  If you maintain a good trust network the system should work (in theory).

It appears to be the beginnings of a topic-centralized credit union.

TO ANY LAWYERS OR CORPORATE BANKER TYPES INTO BITCOIN, please consider how to do this like the Swiss would.

What?  Can you elaborate?  I'm a little confused.

The trust system just gives you a way to filter feedback given to people based off of trades.

I like the feedback depth idea, it means coin developers can't smear posters by repping negative trust if their coin is criticised.

I wonder, is there a default whitelist for trusted members who have reached a certain threshold? Otherwise newbies won't see anything show up until they trust someone, and the system will be missed by many, and thus under-utilised.

I like the variety of ideas here but the trust on the buy side is different from trust on the sell-side and it's all really a matter of who sends the first non-negotiable transaction and that's why a system that distinguishes these is most useful. This post used to be a plea for help when I thought that I got scammed by a user on here who had a buy-side history but it was just a slow response time from him even though he wanted the transaction "immediately". Emotions...  ::)

When you buy a house in some countries, they run what they call a credit report; while it is a fair to midland marker for the reliability of the risk, a better way would be to only asses the tested reliability of the risk.

Is this person a risk with my 100 btc; well no, the have proven trustworthy with a lot more than that by someone who is in turn trusted by others: and so on . . .

By establishing a network that does not draw a profit to track this info an provide people with security in an insecure time. The goal being to perpetuate the principals on which bitcoin was founded.

I just hope someone of means has a transcendental understanding as to lead them to the same conclusions.

Simply to help, as I have been helped.

I'm still not exactly sure what you're trying to say... your phrasing and wording is odd, is English your first language?

like swc, i believe a trust system in general is good for the btc community.

it must be designed to not be manipualted tho

English is my first language: though I am often profuse.

My point was a bit vague because the concept is likewise vague.

The general idea is simple. A system like this trust concept employed here; not localized to this website, but maintained by an extremely trustworthy group.
This system would be comprised of members, each with a rating.
The rating would be equivalent to a credit score.
Transactions would have to follow some level of structure to prevent abuse.
The end result is a credit score without being tied to a ssn or the like.

People could use this score to secure micro loans and other services that would otherwise draw a turned up nose, currently.

A decentralized currency carries no trust; this proposed system would keep the benefits of bitcoin in place while allowing for an expansive market, for those who desire to use it.

This would be a great step forward for the BTC community, and I agree with Mikeologist's idea of how it might work.

Thanks for informing me about this as when im not a newbie i need to sell a BTC-E code, ill make sure to talk to someone with high trust

Hello, forgive me as I am new here. I still do not understand how this trust system will really promote the community since anyone can just put in random rating, right?

The problem with this system is that functionally it's a barrier to entry for new people interested in Bitcoin who want to participate in the discussion. Bitcoin is inherently all about being free and openly accessible to everyone to use as they see fit. IMHO the primary forum for discussion of Bitcoin should reflect these values and remove its barriers for "newbies".

Trust rating is an evaluation system. Quality of work over quantity is the key.

Uh, because nobody trusts anybody; seems obvious  ::)

Guess you didn't read how the trust system works...

It's based off of your trust network, and time as well.

No one would trust a walk-on Escrow agent anyway; if it is not something you do in real life as a professional, then no one here would have any reason to use your services.
Besides, there are plenty of reputable escrow companies for crypto.

Expecting that much trust in you as a noob, or even me as a JR member, is unrealistic.

Why isn't the Trust score visible in all sub-forums?

The trust system is not working.
I still rely on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

Got some reasoning to back up "The trust system is not working."?  Just saying it doesn't add much to the conversation.

I just see a bunch of 0 for everybody there. How is it supposed to be working?

Well if you're asking that question I'm going to assume you haven't read about how it works. Reading through the main trust system thread that I link to in the OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0) explains how it works and why everyone is pretty much at 0 right now.

It's new, if you could build it up that fast it'd be useless.

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don't think this is a good idea. If trust can be gained through anyone, that could be easily faked by registering more accounts.

In fact, I have been cheated once by such system. Don't think it can work well. I DON'T trust anyone if I don't know him in the real world

Did you read how the system works?  It sure doesn't sound like it.

Sure people can register a ton of accounts and all leave positive reviews, but those don't factor into a score unless someone has all of those accounts in their "trust network".  The point of the system is it gives you a metric on people based off of who you trust and who they've reviewed.

Please make an effort to understand how something works before calling it a bad idea.

Hmmm, maybe I'm missing something, but why not link forum users to wot users and use the trust ratings and lists from there?

Pixilatedbtc

Doable but creates an annoying web of links to follow.

Pretty good idea.  But has to be watched closely for organised fake recommendations of bigger scam operstions.

I agree about the trust system, but we live in the real world where the majority are not techies and such. If you want Bitcoin to work with the other 99.9999 % of the population then something needs to be in place.

The only way I found to go to the trust profile of someone, is to click near one of his posts in a forum which enables trust.

However in the trust profile there are other users linked. Clicking on them does not bring you to their trust profile, it brings you to their general forum profile... and I couldn't manage to reach their trust profile from there.

IMAO you should:
1. link directly the user's trust profile in the trust page
2. link the user trust profile in his profile page

very nice idea - also that you can provide proof threads

You cant place the future of bit coin currency on the fact that any person / company can setup a site and sell them as it opens a massive market for fraudulent web sites just like http://www.smart-world.dk/index.html. They take your money then send mail saying they are closing down and money is lost BEWARE!!!.

This is a very crucial feature. Essentially this is like a credit rating system for Crypto Currency.

The registry is the key thing and it should be across several currencies btc, ltc etc..

The issue here is the feedback loop. How do you raise your trust after a purchase. Say I make a sale and I fullfil. How do I ask the buyer to give me a rating and a comment, just like ebay ?

Should be a simple link you can give them that they can send to the user in an email etc.

Like the way I do biz?, give me a trust point here (url). Url is a simple webform that references their unique username id on the trust registry.

It can be linked to this forum sure but it needs to be it's own separate page as well.

I am new to btc and still learning but this is a good thing. Also giving poeple a snipet of code  and iframe or link that shows their profile and their trust rating is a great thing.

The hard part will be locking out the spammers.. It should be based only on real transactions so perhaps each rating should reference a block chain transaction id? Not sure how one would authenticate that and block spammers and scammers?

I'd be willing to help with the project if someone could explain that stuff to me. I am decent with web ui's and have built sites like http://keychests.com (which now supports btc!)

Very interesting in helping and learning about the BTC world. We're in this for the LONG haul if we're gonna beat Mr and Miss Rothchild...

I like these ideas Techzombie, I think during a business setup for commerce in cryptocurrency, that person should be registered equivalent to something like bitcoin forum, where if there is any shady dealings the rating system that this forum adheres to can be accessed and the person or persons. It is quite different being a retailer utilizing bitcoin transactions to make a living as opposed to a fiat currency only retailer, so some form of governance should be followed. unfortunately, most people think that no regulation is the way to go, and I agree, so let the cryptocurrency community govern its own.

How far can the trust system go before it defeats anonymity?

Personally I cannot see a currency system working independent of a persons right to remain anonymous, as the minute it moves it becomes out in the open.

If we all lived in villages and didnt venture outside of our enclosed community, then trust wouldnt be such an issue.  ;)

it is up to the seller and buyer if they want to give out their trust id to get rated or be checked out.

It then is all left to the free market. Many may not care about a rating so they won't ask. some might.

as long as the free market decides it's cool.

and yes, there is a bit of centralization but it is an optional service not officially a part of bitcoin..

would it be better if bit coin built in such a optional trust registry in their next update?
Would be peer to peer and more trusted since it is a part of the system... and still optional so...
don't see any issues with that. but if bitcoin doesn't build it someone else shall.. like this forum or an exchange etc....

Ahhh... we are building it ...  8)

Anything to help keep out the scammers is a good idea.

Its all fine and dandy in a small community, however, as the world gets used to crypto in whatever form, it also needs to have a trust factor built in so those outside the circle can come in and do business.

So this system is kinda like the feedback on amazon or ebay? Sounds good!

Yea, that's a good way to look at it.  It just gives a place on the forums to centralize feedback, and calculate a 'trust score' based off of it.  Definitely better than the reputation threads people used to make.

but wouldnt it be abusable in any way you know pottentialy?

Anything to help keep out the scammers is a good idea.

Maybe?  Read about the system, if you run your trust list correctly it'll work as intended.

I wholeheartedly agree that this is a much better system than I have saw on other websites.

Good work!

Not just for the forum itself, but also for services advertized, such as mining-as-a-service (cloudhashing.com), without knowing if these services actually have the corresponding hardware or if it's been ordered, I am not going to transfer any funds - which is why I'd suggest to make the corresponding information available, either through trusted 3rd parties (such as the vendor of the corresponding hardware) or through some form of peer-review, i.e. trusted senior members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234405.0

We have contacted a few of the hardware builders (BFL and so on) and I have to say. They are either ignorant or dont give a damn.
We are trying to extend the value of their mining rigs... via our system... which only adds value to miners and the rigs they use... But... anyway, they dont care!  :o

Don' trust anyone on the internet that's all you need to know.

Thank you for making us aware of how this feature works :)

Anybody in a hurry or if the offer is too good to be true, its most probably a scam.

I won't trust the fake-able number except that the person himself is well known and has a good reputation.

It's hard to fake, only trusted feedback shows up there.

What about a stack exchange type system that lets people rate the usefulness of other people's posts? This combined with a way to visualize a user's posts over time would be a better way to spot sock puppets who post frequently but dont add to the community and/or make all of their posts in a short period of time.

well, you'd be well advised, not to trust somebody based on contributions/postings on an anonymous forum - even if that person should have made 30k postings and spent years building up his reputation.

I am glad the forum takes scamming seriously and has a system in place to stop it.

Well, make up your own mind:

I just hope the scammers dont get a chance. Some want to do legit business and they make the trade sections untrustworthy and hard to find a deal.

I assure you, this would be a rather lonely place without all those scammers and their fake accounts and pseudo-identities trying to support them ....

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That system does not stop it.
I'm not even sure it will reduce it.

Thanks for that info. I do like the trust system.
+1

Good trust system but its really not good for newbies.
People won't even give me a chance to build trust with them.
They just once they see you a new member they accuse you of scamming.
As if all these trusted members were registered with their reputation/posts and didn't make them.

Yeah what about us newbies? Will we ever have a chance?!

What I understand, ripple is meant to incorporate trust management in its core? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't this go against what crypot is about?

Bitcoin is inherently all about being free and openly accessible to everyone to use as they see fit.

Hi, newbie here. Just read most of this thread and had one question.  What's to stop a scammer from creating multiple id's and building up trust between his own fraudulent network?

There's nothing to stop that.  You just need to be careful about who you put in your trust network and it won't affect you.

With nothing to stop that, someone can get into your trust network and build up trust over a long period of time and when the time is right, or when you and your network is plump and ready, he can then slaughter everyone there.  Scary thought.

There's no way to stop the long con, you just have to be careful about who you trust and how much you risk.

is possible to block ip? For scamers. So they can't will create a other account.

I'm liking this idea.  Is this something Bitcointalk.org is implementing or just talking through it?

It's already here.

You cannot buy the revolution. You cannot make the revolution. You can only be the revolution. It is in your spirit, or it is nowhere

what do they say; "Never risk more then you can afford"

May I suggest that use of the rating system to reflect how much you like someone's posts or personality is counterproductive? I base that on my preference of knowing someone's trade history in a nutshell, not how well liked they are. The two might not always go hand in hand.

I see a lot of ratings like that on the #bitcoin-otc and forum rating systems. I could mentally ignore them, of course. As such, I don't know if there's any way or will to reduce those type of ratings.

(This is my obligatory first post.)

I was wondering how can we "trust" the trust system if accounts are being sold and bought?

I'm in as long as the world elite is not involved

doesn't seem to work.  when does it show up??

Could you guys at least think about a dispute system?

Stuff like that is better left to third parties.

What kind of third parties do you mean?
This is a forum feature and should be obviously handled by mods/admins.

Sorry, reading your post with no context I thought you meant as a way to handle trades, not for the feedback.

I think the feedback system is better left decentralized, a dispute system would put it in the hands of the few. As it is now, people can look on their own to determine is feedback is genuine or not.

Superb idea.

Would it be possible to use a client or app to couple a completed transaction with an issuance of a trust rating? I'm envisioning a sort of automated +1 for successful exchanges.

What about a linkable ledger that would show the cash value/BTC for negative-trust transactions?  This might be a way of exposing any long cons.

I am working on a program that will allow trades to be done safe, avoid scammers.
It would be open source so people know there is no code that steals your BTC.

But good post!

I was looking at some of the security forums, and was thinking that the trust feature seems really beneficial to help in weeding about scams. Of course, one must be careful still... just makes it a little tougher for scammers.

Keep us updated... Very interested in seeing it in action  ;)

thanks for the writeup. any recommendations on changing the trust level from the default 2? anecdotal stories whereby increasing or decreasing makes sense?

Would be nice to know more about it. Looks interesting!

i love this feature escpecially the parrt where u can look up the references

I keep my trust setting at "0" unless I am actively researching someone.

When I'm looking at someone, I add them to my trust list and then bump the depth up to 3.  This tells me who they trust and what the cascade of trust levels are.  It is interesting to see who is "in bed" with who.

This is a great strategy!  Thanks for sharing.

i think it is a good system but i think that you cannot really go and rely on it ..people can just ask some friends to get their trust level higher ..or am i wrong? ???

Dont forget to expand here:
https://i.imgur.com/fJLxcGx.png?1
Those are simply people you havent added to your network.

You aren't supposed to rely on it, it's a tool, nothing more.

So what is the point of having one? If trust system doesn't work, then it just misleads people into trusting the wrong individuals thinking they are safe.

It does work, me saying it's just a tool doesn't mean it's broken. If I give you a hammer, would you consider it broken if it doesn't build a house for you by itself?

Because it's better than nothing. In the end, only you are responsible for your decisions and the risk you take.

Thank you, but I am well aware that I am responsible for my decisions, I was just stating the fact that these systems can be gamed and give a false sense of confidence to people.

It was a good idea on paper. But it needs to be moderated. Otherwise, trusted people will be able to give negative feedbacks for no reason to people they dislike, which is unfair.... You could be able to appeal a trust.

The trust system is just a way of aggregating people's opinion on each other.  There should be no appeal process since my opinion about you can't really be appealed.  If I hate your guts and think you are scum, then I have a right to that opinion.  If you find out that someone is just giving negative feedbacks for no reason to people he hates, then remove him from your trust list and it won't affect you one bit!

In short, you decide who is on your trust list, and if you don't want to trust people who are loud about their opinion and you think they have no good reason to be giving negative feedback, then remove him from your trust list and problem solved!

This whole ecosystem of Alt-coins is based on Trust.  The ethos and the backbone of its success rely on the degree of trust from the users and the promotors.  Whether that is people trading coins, or just the adopters of coins in mainstream society. Trust will keep the coins rolling.... so yeah, I am all about it.  Just a pain in the backside having to start a profile from scratch hahaha  ;D

Interaction and involvement in the community.  Just as you would offline  :)

Some people seem reputable but don't have this trust is it nly per thread?

Whats the trust system?

There is no overall trust rating. You see "trust" only from your trust network.

It seems you didn't add anybody to your trust network. So, of course, you will see that everybody has trust "0".

RTFM! Read the first post in the thread

I agree, using as a tool or as a guide sounds like a good idea
i know when i consider trusting anything i take many things into consideration, as do most people im sure    ;)

All these things to learn....
My head is going to explode!   

So should i leave my trust settings to default trust and 2 for now?
I realize it doesn't really matter until someone wants to trust me but I want to be ready.
Perhaps theymos?
but i see he even trusts DefaultTrust.

i feel like setting to 0 is the only way i should start. am i crazy?   Did i completely miss the point of the trust thing?


-wild

 ??? I'm still surprised that such an old-fashioned system(trust,thread,ip checks, 6mins cool-off periods, etc) exists + absence of social networks integrations(likes/follows) may scare some users... Sharm...

I think they will be just fine. Any half-wit internet used is used to systems like these; and if not,it's fast and easy to learn. Not every page in the universe has to have a damn like and twitter button, and you DO NOT have to share anything you do with every one of your friend's and faith acquaintances. It is just not necessary

Also, since this kind of is a financial site; would that make it less serious somehow... wait, what am I saying? I really have no idea

ON THE OTHER HAND
maybe if people linked their FB profiles, people could more easily see that the individuals are not spammers or other riff-raffle. But it would be pretty strict to require it - not everyone uses Faceboojk

those are my quick "stream of consciousness" thoughts on the matter

  Would the trust score be mainly for buying and selling in the Marketplace as like a feedback score ?

I'm still learning the trust system.

It's a way to see if others have conducted any scams on the forum. To read more about the Trust System, follow the link below.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0

It's a good idea, and something I'll be keeping an eye on. Trust is so important on a forum like this

I agree with this new system

A very innovative idea, indeed...I'm on board.

is there any weighting function on the trust system? like if i am trusted by a 3 highly trusted people or by 3 people that aren't trusted by anybody, do I have the same trust score either way?

The scores only show on the trust system when feedback is left by people in the your trust network.

Would the trust score be mainly for buying and selling in the Marketplace as like a feedback score :)

thats a good job :D

This is why I'm done procrastinating joining bct, high level thinking that goes into something like the Trust System. I want btc to work for me and to be able to turn people on to it by helping to make work for them, and this gets my mind wrapped around it a little better.

It is very interesting to see how so many different people respond to the concept of a trust system.  I've spent years developing a trust reputation on e-bay and Amazon, so when I started using Bitcoin, I really appreciated the escrow system I found on Bitmit. 

I understand the need to develop these kinds of systems and relationships in a new market, and it will take time...  I just wish I had found out about Bitcoin sooner, so some of this would be behind me by now!!  :)

Definitely don't trust Bitcoin casinos here because they have scammed me and not sent out my 10+ BTC owed.

they just not scammed you they do this with many peoples and still doing so we have to careful about this

Clear OP thanks

Great that this has been added. I am not sure why specificall BTC attracts a lot of phising sites

For a newbie this is good information to read.   Thanks for sharing.

That's a good idea. ;D Thank you for sharing this kind of info.

In this situations and all this issues we are facing right now? It is an absolute necessity to have SOMEONE or SOMEBODY to trust, it might be a great step for us to take but the point is, are we willing enough to take that chance to give ourselves a leap of fate, a chance to risk everything just to achieve what we wanted, not just for your self but for this peeps out there who needed this kind of opportunity. So, it is a yes for me! GO! GO!  ;D ;D

This is an interesting system, the Web of Trust that I am familiar with relies on in-person sharing and one time meeting of trusted individuals.  Having something that will allow the generation of that web in fully digitized format I think is essential for how the modern world works.

Very interesting read, thanks!

I think having a trust system in Bitcoin could be very difficult to imply. Because if you want us to trust those people, then those people must be well known personnel. So, I think its impossible although its good.