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Hi everyone...

Just a newbie and am planning to put some money into crypto. Now the thing which is stopping me is whether I should go for trading as the currency is volatile and can give some quick gains or buy it and sleep over it for a few years. Or should I go with 50% trading and 50% investing.

Need experts guidance please

I suggest you do not invest first, you can get token of a project for free just by like and share each post of their facebook page, it's good for you to understand about crypto currency rather than having to spend money.

investing and trading are 2 totally different emotions   , also trading is all build on emotion , that is also the reason that i learned to keep my coins and do not trade them anymore , if you use money that you can miss , it is a lot aesier to hold them for the long term

my advice would be to hold coins in long term because trading isn't so easy as it sounds like and crypto just begin and your investment could (possible) only grow

and this is also a good one , a lot off  coins are given for free (signature twitter-bounty) so maybe you can getin cheap and see what it does

Whatever you do, if you're new to crypto you shouldn't be trading. Trading cryptos is risky / hard enough as is, moreso if you're not familiar with the market.

Additionally, try to focus on BTC. While some alts may have merits on their own, many of them are just ways to extract money from newcomers.

free coins? well, I tried dodge but did not get anything on my wallet...

thanks, I know trading is quite risky. However I think I should have been a little clear. What I meant was that buying on low and selling on high. Like recently when the price dropped to 3000USD I could have bought some and sold at 4000+. 

altcoins, I mean like top 5 or 10 of them, like the ones mentioned here https://coinmarketcap.com/

What do you think?

I suggest you look for more promising coins and keep them over time rather than trading.  Trading requires more than just buying and exchanging.

I think in both cases one should study a lot and expecting to get a bunch of free money is very naively. but price of BTC will grow most likely so yeah investment seems better imho

Personally I've choose to invest. For trading you need skills and knowledges. Under skills I mean your psychology, type of character etc. Under knowledge I mean not only technical analysis but also political, technical and development process of coins. In order to be successful trader you need to be very good in all these points. So, you need to spend all your 100% of time to trade, study, learn and follow community, news, rumors and other bullshit.
For investing it is much more easier, today you are free and you can check for projects and find a good one. If you do not have time you'll does not loose anything

Invest first, then you need to study about trading. You research by your own, learn from the experts. I suggested also to you to learn the candles or the chart of particular coin. Trading is also a risky,  if you don't want to get trapped, then you need to be patient in profits. You need to know where to exit.

I suggest that you trade all your bitcoin to a more stable one (choose from leading coins) and secure it for a long time. ETH is one good example that I can give due to the active development and promotion. AFAIK, Vitalik is now targeting visa transactions soon - source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/vitalik-buterin-ethereum-will-have-visa-scale-transaction-capacity-in-2-years . You can also try with waves and ripple if you have more funds to trade. If you want a lesser risk, buy bitcoin with cash and don't trade it with any coin. (My suggestion only works if you want some free time in RL and don't want to consume a lot for crypto trading)

Investing is for the lazy and trading is for the adventurous and those who are paranoid about price changes. I admit that I'm a lazy person and I only trade when I feel like it or if there's something interesting coming out, but most of the time my money is directed towards investing in a long time.

Also, just a suggestion, don't put your money first into either trading or investing. Just check and learn as much as you can before getting heavily involved.

I quote this part of your post because learning how to trade, profitably, requires experience and gaining that experience takes time. Do you have time and money to fail a bit before you start to succeed? If not, I'd recommend a buy and hold investment approach.

Buy some coin, let it sit. When you see a pull back buy some more, and so on. That way you're not selling too loo but rather timing your buying on the dips. It's a beginner's way to trading.

Don't focus on the free stuff. Grab a small number of bitcoin, then do research alot about it. That's a much better plan than just going in on something just because you want to earn money. Newbies always tend to overlook the great technology around bitcoin and blockchain technologies in general.

I agree. I recommend understanding how the Crypto Market works, spend hours educating yourself how to invest and trade, and understand the tech as well. Over preparation will never hurt you

I agree with you and that Investing here means putting/spending your money on something and let it grow. But there are many kinds of investment,you can invest also time,money and effort for trading. In investing there are also risk involved, because most money invested in stocks etc are also being traded.

For me you should trade first because it will make you more productive rather than investing because if you invest you will not know how to earn profit if you dont know the basics of trading.

This is really a good question. I think every one should monitor the market price regularly and must be aware of what is going on in coin market. Should not stay away or sleep after investing . you can earn maximum profit by making both long term and short term investment. Short term investment can be traded regularly at a small profit margin that will turn into many times of your investment after few years.

Investing is a lot better for stress levels as well as profits. All you have to do is buy and hold BTC since it's supply is limited. If you trade you are losing precious bitcoins that will continue to become more valuable.

I go for investing, cause once the ico ended and the token were listed on an exchange you have two options ,sell and get the amount youve invested or wait a little bit longer for the price to pump up.

investing and trading is good process make you rich , so i prefer both

It depends on where you are most comfortable at whether its trading or investing. If you are a risk taker then maybe you can try trading because its where the big money is but there is a lot of manipulation in the market so you should be prepare with it and you should only invest what you can afford to lose in order for you not to get emotional. As what they say, trading is 10% skills and 90% psychology so if you do not trust yourself then you can go to investing and just wait for your coins to grow in value.

you can go to trading form and ask more but for me i prefer investing with small trading for newbie

maybe you mean dogecoin right? what do you follow to get the dogecoin for free? faucet? surely you missed one or two things related to the terms.

Though he can try to learn trading but he should not throw huge amount of bitcoins. Read and learn is the best thing that a newbie can do and I suggest to learn here in bitcointalk.org but know what posts you should believe and not since information that each member gave is actually correct.

Because you newbie you must learn more then try to trading small amount then when be ready start investing

For me as I see in trading your playing with a 50 50 chance game the same with investing there is a 50 50 chance. Evryone explained it already I just want to share mine that you should go and invest.

i'd rather investing with multiple entry point based on technical analysis. from what i observe investing in crypto can make huge profit in the long run. as long as you have the patience and sensible target price

Investing and trading need initial funds in order you to start. They are different in so many aspect but they are also both risky.
Investment need patience and time in order to succeed and gain profit . Trading needs to study the platform as well as having a luck and perfect timing for trade.

Better not because someone newbie 'in terms of real not rank' must have a weak mentality and what I fear is if they once experienced a loss, they will mentally down and dont want to trade back or even hate crypto currency.

because of you newbie, you need more knowledge about both. invest and trade in the highly profitable in crypto, you just need to be smart in analyzing a project.
investment = long term , while trading you can take advantage of short-term, it all depends on your choice.

I'm also choosing between trade and investments now. Have read your comments, but still haven't come to a conclusion yet.. The most reasonable way seems to divide it and put 50% into investments and  50% into trade

Depends on how much time you want to spend on trading.
If it's not a problem to check your coins several times a day I would invest 50%, if you have less time than that and
if you are very interested in trading and have the time to do so I'd spend more than 50% on trading.

it depends on what you know how to do better .. but I think that trading is a skill that you can very well learn how to do it .. it just takes time ... However, I do believe that investment is, among other things, talent.

Better invest it to BTC, and don't do any trading unless you really know what you're doing, as trading needs some analyzing skill and experience to work out ~



and maybe this, do both, but do more in investing, and less in trading... Good luck ~~

I think hyip investment is very risky. Any time gone to scam. Investment sites are very risky. But more profit. Investment sites give you more profit. But risky. On the other hand you can start crypto trading if you understand trading system. So you can more profitable.

What do you mean by investment sites ? I think it is the same as HYIP sites. They all scam, soon or later. Do not and never invest on those sites. If you want to invest Bitcoin, just buy or collect Bitcoin, and keep it in your wallet for several years. Trading is good if you know the price and the system. Many people use trading to make their way to success. But I do not like trading because it is risky. I prefer mining and keep investing.

maybe, for me the very wise decisions is separate both 50% on trading and 50% on investment so you never got boring lol  ;), they are both profitable in term of income because in investing you can earn a lot of profits without any work and you just wait until the next year to see whats the result on your investment. and in trading theres a lot of chances to grow you profits in a short period of time, but its need a lot of your time and hard work to see whats the results in the end of the day.

In short-term trading, your technical analysis charts are hours and perhaps minutes, while in long-term investments this is daily, weekly or perhaps monthly.Obviously, to distinguish between these two types, short-term altcoin trading is more stressful and more difficult. Since the time intervals are very short, you need to perfect your timing. One must also consider that powerful financial companies are trading robotically with such algorithms. In this case, if you think that the total result of trade is zero, you can see that your share will decrease gradually. If you look at all of this through the filter, we see that it would be a smarter job to be a altcoin investor. In this case, you will have a more stress-free life with macroeconomic analyzes and long-term forecasts. Undoubtedly, the ratios here are higher than in the case of short-term commercials. Think of it as a real estate trade. You bought a plot looking into the future and you are aiming to sell it for months later. Usually you will check the status once a month to check whether the price is trending up or down.

hmm could you please explain a little about it?

If you follow everyday, trading is better than investing. Investors are not happy these days

thanks everyone for your valued feedback. so, If I understand correctly:

-for beginners long term investing is the better option?
-better stick at investing if one doesn't know technical analysis?


however, some people also recommended to trade 50% and invest 50%. I feel and correct me if am wrong...

-as a beginner I should invest around 70% in top 10 coins for long-term view?
-for trading,  30% should be ok? now, the question is do I trade in the top-10 coins because of their market-cap and stuff? Or do I also trade in new upcoming projects which can either wipe my money or give me some good gains as well?
-there can also be the option of buying low, selling high and repeating the process - I guess its called swing trading. But, the thing which makes me a little worried about this is that if I choose to do it with 100% of my money and buy coins at lower rates, sell them at higher in the hope that it will again hit low and if it doesn't, then what?  

I just check https://coinmarketcap.com/ a few times a day and have joined a fb group on cryptocurrency - nothing more than this..

I think both have good and bad points so what to do? Just try to do both and prove for yourself which one is better.

As for me investing more lucrative. But i trying to combine trading and investing.

hmm true but what about buy low and sell high?

i'd go for both to diversify but not exactly 50-50. if you have a lot of free time to research and trade, trading can be very rewarding, if not then put more in investments.

If you are busy person then I suggest don't do trading because it  will require a lot of monitoring on the prices which means you need to allot many hours and it won't work if you have a regular job but if you have much free time then enter trading.

I think it would depend on where you are good at. For me trading is quite risky so i would just work in the marketplace section and i will invest my time there to get some bitcoins.

When you trade BTC you're indirectly investing in BTC, but investing can be in many form.

It's always better to understand in what you're spending on. Money isn't the only one, you're burning time which also burn your opportunity cost.

A. Feel

You could try some airdrops given for free, there's plenty of it - enough to get a feel how wallet, storing and distribution works.

Or you could decide to spare $100 and play around with it. It has to be a value you did not mind LOSING.

B. Learn

You could search for 'blockchain' and 'cryptocurrency' to learn at first.

Then find your preferred coin again, to study how it actually works.


When you take either A or B is satisfying, you may proceed to trade (assuming you understand trading) or the simplest investment; buy&hold.

 :) :)

Both have their own side.
you can invest you bitcoins in some altcoin or some casino or dice site. It will surely give you profit as casino always wins in the end. But it can take time and profit making process can be slow and in some cases really slow.

While on other hand trading can be really fun and profit making sometimes. You can win upto 400% or more per trade. Trading is really a game changer sometimes.

You should practice with a portion of funds to see where your talents lie. Some people are great at investing and terribad at day trading, some people the opposite and everyone somewhere along the gradient in between. Good luck

Either way, you need to have a knowledge base for both. And if you are ready to learn more, then you will find out your way for some time later :) Just don`t hurry while learning.

For a newbie, going directly into trading can be highly risky. You need to have proper understanding and knowledge of various aspects before investing your money in trading, so if you really got some money to invest in crypto then the first move is investing money in Bitcoin. Simply because Bitcoin tops the list of crypto currencies moreover it will surely give you better returns over the time, also the risk factor is very less as compared to another coins. Meanwhile, your money is invested in Bitcoin you should study about various altcoin their road maps, ICO productivity, graphs and other important factors and then come back with proper knowledge to invest money in crypto.
   

Very similar. Investment is simply trading but holding for a longer time.

Thanks to trading we are able to get richer. The price of BTC is growing and in my opinion trading in coins is a very good solution. You just have to find an honest trader, a trusted man who will not fool us.

If you want to trade do not over trade you can trade 1-2 times a day. Profit not form number of trade. You lost 1% to change for a coin to another.

It depends on his knowledge and experience, as he can do more exchanges and make a profit that is much larger than quantitative limitation.

Investing is the way to go for me. Trading requires a lot of knowledge about the market and really takes being a full time gig to really be successful at it. Bitcoin will also continue to become more and more valuable so I'd rather hold long term.  ;D

both good to earning profit. so try first in investement because in investing no need any knowledge and experience so nothing to worry about this. next trading, trading is very important and we have to handle carefully. because trading need more knowledge and experience so you have to investing and doing trading need money  and experience.

It's easy! You're investing, exchanging, trading to get rich. With the incredible value of money you can do it, it's enough to meet honest people who will be able to come to a compromise. Regards.

As a newbie, it's okay to try trading for you to learn from your experience. But as an advice, you should make sure to be ready for losses. And to minimize loss, diversify the coins you buy. And to buy altcoins at a lesser price, buy coins during ICO or after bounty distribution or after months of being release since most buyers will dump their coins which make the price of coin low.

You have to take teh best of the two worlds.
Try keeping some for long term investments , and do some trading with kind of 2% risk/reward or alike. you will get decent money if you succeed.

my advise is to see what you can afford to loose en take your time to read some more about different coins and try to keep m ( offline ) for the real long run , you can better have them

also good to take part in airdrops and keep m all

trading can be a way to earn some in a short time and my experience is that it is not easy to that , it is all about emotions , difficult to buy when they are cheap ( better buy a expensive , so , good one ) and also difficult to sell when youreached , lets say 20 times your  investment (it could go higher )

trading is just not my thing

I think trading is the best rather investing . You can lost all of your money by investing but i am pretty sure that you will never lost all of your money in trading . You can profit a lot of in long term trading . So for me trading is the best

TRADING

more profitable if you know how to be patience

Trading is difficult, for every person making a profit, there is someone making a loss. I suggest you take a tiny pot of money (say $100) and trade with it for at least 3 months. You will learn a lot without the risks. You will very probably have less than what you started with.

Investing? What is the place where you are willing to invest anyway? And why don't you consider trading as an investment as well? Aren't you putting money in trading? If yes, then that is what we call an investment. And i don't know any place where you can just invest your money and get gains with the time, and if somewhere you found something like this, you better stay away from this. Trading is the better thing if you understand it and if you can control your trades in a good way. Don't go for any investments, they are 99% scams.

I think, for a starter, you can get more provit by investing, because you'll need information, experience, and some luck to be good at trading..

Trading is a little bit risky, but yes, with better income...
But for the first time you jump into crypto, I think you could just investing and then learning how to do trading by evaluating how BTC price goes up and down for a few weeks ~

Even if you are new into bitcoin but if you have an experience in trading stocks before
then you can also get into trading bitcoins in the market. Investing is safer that trading
but trading has a higher chance of earning in the future if successful. And yes a 50/50
allocation is the best strategy that you can do.

Gets some friends who can guide you or watch videos online and start learning here at bitcointalk.

INvesting is alot easier, better if you are busier and dont know much about crypto and TA. Trading you can make more money IMO but its alot harder and you have to know your TA's and your entry and exit points

One of the best advice so far for such a newbie like me... ;)

If you want start invest in someone, be sure you understand this.
It is very easy to loss you money becouse you don't have enought knowledge.

I think 50 to 50. But it depends on what you like more.
First of all, it is necessary to study well the crypto-currencies, their dynamics, terminology, history, to keep abreast of the news. I would recommend that you watch YouTube channels, news portals

Hey, I think investment is a game like a russian rulete and Trading is a hard work.
So what do you prefer? Play or work?

I would suggest crypto trading 1 year is enough experience, you have to monitor daily. Always look to altcoin when they dump and when they pump. When btc is high 80% of altcoin will dump.

Is there a trick to checking out what tokens might get high value? Is there a site where you can check this? Or is it just joining as many airdrops/bounties that you can join then hope for the best?

If you want to trade then first learn how to trade (e.g. at https://www.babypips.com/learn/forex). trading is a job like any other and if you don't treat it as such you will get the payoff of the lottery player.

Otherwise just do your due diligence and invest if you judge it appropriate.

I`m sorry for a such stupid question, but what does it mean "trading cryptocurrency"? Is it the same as trading securities on the stock market?

Since you are a newbie, I would suggest you to first of all study and understand the market behaviour. Trading is something that you do in a short-term, probably a day or week. In investing, the period varies from 3 months to 10/20 years so if you think you are flexible enough to take quick decisions and analyse the situation in less time then trading is suitable for you and if not then consider investing because you get some time to make any decision. You can start with the lowest possible amount to understand the market behaviour and build your strategies according to it.

50% I think you should buy bitcoin and hold it for a few years you can earn quite the $ 50 left you should choose the top coin on the coinmarketcap and buying them would be safer for you if you is a new entrant and marketer of cryptos

Great question me and a few friends who just joined crypto are battle-ing with the same question as well. I can not give you strong advice because I am new but I can tell what I learned so far and do with it as you like. If I would start over with the knowledge I have now then I would not invest my own money in altcoins but I would in bitcoin & eth. I did not know what a hardfork was and boy I know now lol. The money I would put in altcoins would come from free money you get when you like twitter or facebook for a new coin. As for trading I would use only free given money because it is trial and error. On youtube you can find a lot of helpfull tips and tools to use when you trade. If you analyse the news and statistics and know what the market will do you can place a safer bet. Good luck!

I think that with the investment you can get a good profit, if you know where you are investing in and if you know how to invest, but if you are a beginner in this then it's better not to do it because you can lose your money.To start trading, you need to consult with the person who is doing this. Because trading is a very dangerous job for your money if you are a beginner. In contrast to investing in trading, every second is important. I think the easiest way but less prone is investing, and trading heavier but more lucrative

Agreed. There is a mentality required to trading that is paired with key knowledge of tradings and mechanics. Emotional investors are the ones that experienced ones eat for breakfast.

First i advice you to buy Bitcoin atleast 50% because you will earn everytime Bitcoin goes up so better to hold it. Second is try to self trading, just watch on YouTube or ask your friends to help and guide you on a simple basic trade like Buy low and sell high.

buy at low price and sell at high price but this is very difficult to do. it request you have to a lot of experience in trading

For me trading because trading can make your money double tripple etc in short trading is best way to earn more profit but risky, investing is takes long time to earn profit.

As for me investing more lucrative. But i trying to combine trading and investing.

You should learn and do your own research. And you have to gain experience.
You need to trade a little with small amounts at first, just to get a feel and knowledge.
After that you will be vise.

Cryptocurrency is the best leverage asset. Therefore it's better not to use Bitcoins and other cryptos for payment purposes, but for investments. Morever, there are some services that allows u to take a loan in fiat money using your crypto assets as a collateral.

Both of them require a lot of research, time, and attention. Choose from where to start and be consistent, considering the risks which exist in both trading and investing.

Investing is a very risky way of earning money. I prefer trade. This method is slightly more reliable. And gives faster result. But investing has its advantages. This is a long-term investment that can bring good results.

Trading cause everything is depended on you not on market and your luck but knowledge and experience so i just consider that it is better option.

Although  investment and trading are different.  One Newbie member  not possible  invest money  without risk.

we can actually do both... Investing some for a long term, and do the buy low sell high trading in a short term...



yeah, to be successfull in trading and investing, you need a good skill to analyze the market behaviour... and maybe some luck would help too ~

Trading needs experience and investing needs patience.
Trading could give you results but you may also possess the risk of losing while investing doesn't possess that risk to a higher extent.
Trading could make you sell in panic while if you invest, you will need to wait and you can wait for a long time and reap the profits out of it.
Trading could be dangerous if no stop loss has been put, but investing could let you win over time.
I believe you are smart enough to take this decision on your own after me elaborating everything here.

Wow, really? Can I do that too? can you please share some link that I can read and learn a new things. Thank you in advance, I wish i could do that.

People in this thread will answer from their point of experience and skills. You should read more theory and try it on practive yourself. But yes, I agree with many here that you'd better not invest or trade your own money but earn coins for free on bounties.

If you have good at technical analysis you should trade it saves your time for increasing your money.

Everyone here is very helpful. But as an addition, do you guys have any idea or any advice for us beginners on which coin is best suited for investing and which is for trading? or are they all just the same?

I prefer earning bitcoin and trading to grow your coins. However, if you've got enough money to invest, why not? Just choose a good investment platform carefully. We all know bitcoin appreciates in value over time.

more supply you put on trading, more income that you got. dont take 50% if you want to play in crypto. cause you will loss 50% what you have.
if you have knowledge about trading, you must choice trading.

In my case was the same. I started trading and at first time ...shoot..  I earn a lot. But it was also the last one for long time. So I agree, if U dont loos U wont learn haw its work. Now I know much more of trading, but still I prefer not short time which takes me lot of time to observe and keep it on eye. Better start to mid term trading, U save time and loos less many.

If you want to earn money first you have to invest. It is impossible to gain much from trading itself. Without adequate investment and without knowledge, nothing will come of it. I would like to invest in a bitcoin.

It depends on where you are most comfortable at whether its trading or investing. If you are a risk taker then maybe you can try trading because its where the big money is but there is a lot of manipulation in the market so you should be prepare with it and you should only invest what you can afford to lose in order for you not to get emotional. As what they say, trading is 10% skills and 90% psychology so if you do not trust yourself then you can go to investing and just wait for your coins to grow in value.

i thing i need much information in this forum to answer the question.