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Title: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 02, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Tipstar on February 02, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
I think monero is the leader in privacy coin. There's no way to trace back the sending address and every transaction are limited to a unique payment ID between the sender and receiver. YouKnowWho'll never know who sent payments and for what.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: JustusJones86 on February 02, 2018, 06:20:35 PM
Did not you forget about DeepOnion? What's your opinion on that project?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ric8 on February 02, 2018, 06:47:56 PM
How about Sumokoin ?
SUMOKOIN is created with a high level of privacy in mind, setting Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12 to conceal sources/amounts transferred and make it high resistance to blockchain analysis.
SUMOKOIN is untraceable; sending and receiving addresses are encrypted, transacted amounts are obfuscated by default. Transactions on the SUMOKOIN blockchain cannot be linked to a particular user or real-world identity.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: madtea on February 02, 2018, 07:12:27 PM
My two favorites are definitely Monero and NAV. NAV is highly undervalued right now. The tech is far superior to, for example, Verge. Think 2018 will be big for both Monero and NAV!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: urbanpixel on February 02, 2018, 11:43:18 PM
Did not you forget about DeepOnion? What's your opinion on that project?

I was just about to ask the same as it falls under the "privacy coin" category. Its technology is built on top of ToR and with the implementation of the OBFS4 protocol all transactions are untraceable and private...


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: CryptoKyddie on February 02, 2018, 11:54:58 PM
Sure this is a nice list of privacy coins. Let me tell you straight off the bat. I own and HODL: Monero, Zcash and DeepOnion all for different reasons.

NAV coin is a joke IMHO, I believe unlimited supply and too inflationary. Seems like a coin made by dreamers for dreamers. They are trying to roll it out to NZ shops but with next to zero success. Not one for me.

Monero is the granddaddy here, high value and good brand recognition. However expensive and not as good as some other newer coins.

Zcash has been in my portfolio for a few months, and have made good returns from it.

DeepOnion is my last one on the list. Free airdrops and much more privacy than the other coins can provide. Think TOR and OBFS4 - so can be used anywhere in the world.  Android wallet coming and now at a bargain price in the market. After airdrops should be listed on biggest exchanges with ease.

Interested to see other peoples rationale behind their investing.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: molecularman on February 02, 2018, 11:58:57 PM
Interesting thread.


I have invested in Nav for a long time.  It seems to not move nearly as much as other coins despite doing such interesting work.

Verge essentially uses Tor the way anyone could use Tor when sending a transaction.     Whereas DeepOnion is integrated.  If it isn't connected to the Tor network, you can't use it.   

Of note, they recently upgraded to the newest version of Tor and have integrated OBSF4.     Though I realize for some, that isn't enough to be considered among the likes of the big privacy coins.    However, more privacy features are coming soon.   First DeepSend, a multisig mixer,  and then zero knowledge proofs.






Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: longlivecapitalism on February 03, 2018, 02:17:41 AM
While all these coins provide certain advantages as far as privacy coins go, I think that you are forgetting about DeepOnion, an up and coming anonymous coin. DeepOnion uses the Tor network to ensure that your transactions will remain anonymous. Moreover, DeepOnion recently implemented the obfuscation protocol named OBFS4 to the official wallet which will help people living in countries with Tor connection problems.

If you're interested to look into it more, I'd recommend to you to read the DeepOnion whitepaper, where the developers have laid out a very detailed plan about the coin's roadmap and its numerous future developments. You can find it here https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: rbt on February 03, 2018, 02:49:13 AM
For me the best privacy coin is still Monero. Being released quite some time ago, it might not have the best tech, but it does what it is supposed to do: hide both the sender and the receiver addresses. Monero is still my first choice just because it is used by many people right now, after all adoption is very important for a coin.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: BlinkLink on February 03, 2018, 02:51:23 AM
i think monero is the best and maybe XVG would come in second? but governments will have a big headache about this type of coins existing and they will try to stop its operation.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: xiaoxz on February 03, 2018, 03:01:29 AM
I will choose monero, of course, not to say that other anonymous coins are not good, like dash and zcash are also very good anonymous coins, but I prefer Monroe only.
A friend of mine has been casting a Monroe for a long time


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Nalbo on February 03, 2018, 03:03:46 AM
i think monero is the best and maybe XVG would come in second? but governments will have a big headache about this type of coins existing and they will try to stop its operation.

And thats the beauty of these coins. Until people would give these token a value, there's no way for governments to crack it down. They can stop it's trading on some centralized exchanges but with the growth of decentralized p2p trading, we are into the new era of cryptocoins now.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: BeManga on February 03, 2018, 03:05:13 AM
i like verge the most from dogecoindark to verge and still active until now what good on it is you can choose if you want to make private transaction


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: 99th on February 03, 2018, 03:05:56 AM
i think monero is the best and maybe XVG would come in second? but governments will have a big headache about this type of coins existing and they will try to stop its operation.

And thats the beauty of these coins. Until people would give these token a value, there's no way for governments to crack it down. They can stop it's trading on some centralized exchanges but with the growth of decentralized p2p trading, we are into the new era of cryptocoins now.

I have been thinking of investing into Monero for a while now and it is at a decent discount right now. I think over the next week I am going to finally pull the trigger and buy some........


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Benezim on February 03, 2018, 03:15:17 AM
Monero is certainly the leader of the privacy pack.

Hands down, for now the privacy part in DeepOnion is limited to the wallet/IP end, not so much on blockchain transactions. But their DeepSend release is imminent, sound obfuscation of transactions on the blockchain will significantly strengthen their privacy package.

Factor in the active and large community and their attempts to achieve adoption (mobile wallets, woocommerce), and you've got a small cap privacy coin destined for growth in 2018


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: rattle99 on February 03, 2018, 03:31:45 AM
I think Monero leads the pack right now.
Zcash is also useful due to the lower fees.
I think Zencash is also a promising coin for the reasons you mentioned.

But lastly, I think DeepOnion is the one with the most potential to grow. As of now it offers node anonymity since it operates on the TOR network. Even countries like china where TOR usage isn't allowed can use it with OBFS4( TOR obfuscation) which was recently added to DeepOnion. Eventually with the release of DeepSend and Votecentral, it will surely rise to one of the top coins alongside XMR and the others.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 03, 2018, 03:40:15 AM
i like verge the most from dogecoindark to verge and still active until now what good on it is you can choose if you want to make private transaction

I hope no one listens to your shit comments and recommendations. Both those cryptocoins are below average with development teams that only have full stack engineers at best, with no real cryptographers, mathematicians, and true computer scientists.

Only Monero has the best development team after bitcoin's developers.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: DU3O on February 03, 2018, 04:59:25 AM
Your list was actually great. However these coins are already in the top 100's. Therefore when it comes to profit, you'll be lucky if you can still make at least 2x of your investment. That's why I am always hunting those privacy coins with lower marketcaps but have the potentials to be on Top someday.

I'm so glad that I found this rare gem DeepOnion. Let me explain why.
I first discovered it here on bitcointalk, because of its trending thread with lots of views & replies, about the developments, news & updates, specially their famous campaign called Airdrop, wherein they are rewarding their holders every week with free onions.

If we talk about technology, this coin has so many features to offer. It has already working product called DeepVault, wherein you can register & verify documents for authentication. It is integrated with TOR Network. Also with OBFS4, that allowing access to those Countries that have TOR Connection problems like China. You can stake & mine this coin (onion) as well. And the latest big news is the upcoming Android Mobile Wallet, that I have a feeling will be release this February. They also have DeepOnion Shop, where you can buy good stuff using fiat or onions :)

DeepOnion has a very nice whitepaper & solid roadmap. More upcoming great features like VoteCentral & the most awaited one, the DeepSend, that can bring anonymity in blockchain to the next level. With these information, would you still doubt whether this privacy coin will be on top someday? :)
You can confirm it by visiting their website & community, just check my signature ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: BitChief on February 03, 2018, 05:12:13 AM
Your list was actually great. However these coins are already in the top 100's. Therefore when it comes to profit, you'll be lucky if you can still make at least 2x of your investment. That's why I am always hunting those privacy coins with lower marketcaps but have the potentials to be on Top someday.

I'm so glad that I found this rare gem DeepOnion. Let me explain why.
I first discovered it here on bitcointalk, because of its trending thread with lots of views & replies, about the developments, news & updates, specially their famous campaign called Airdrop, wherein they are rewarding their holders every week with free onions.

If we talk about technology, this coin has so many features to offer. It has already working product called DeepVault, wherein you can register & verify documents for authentication. It is integrated with TOR Network. Also with OBFS4, that allowing access to those Countries that have TOR Connection problems like China. You can stake & mine this coin (onion) as well. And the latest big news is the upcoming Android Mobile Wallet, that I have a feeling will be release this February. They also have DeepOnion Shop, where you can buy good stuff using fiat or onions :)

DeepOnion has a very nice whitepaper & solid roadmap. More upcoming great features like VoteCentral & the most awaited one, the DeepSend, that can bring anonymity in blockchain to the next level. With these information, would you still doubt whether this privacy coin will be on top someday? :)
You can confirm it by visiting their website & community, just check my signature ;)

I would say without a doubt Monero, it is extremely undervalued atm it has a great development team with complete privacy. I am also a huge fan of SUMO which is a Monero fork


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Vigme86 on February 03, 2018, 08:05:10 AM
Your list is fair, those coins have a solid dev team and a strong community behind them.
On this list I think the best one is Monero, ring confidential transactions is a fascinating technology, but if I have to find a flaw in your list is that you are too concentrated on affirmed altcoins.
There are tons of privacy coins out there with could be a real breakthrough in 2018 (Hash, Spectre, Zoin, Enigma, Solaris, Zero, etc.). My pick between them (as you can also see by my signatures :) ) is DeepOnion.
It is a privacy coin wich guarantees anonymous transactions using the TorNetwork, dev team on that point is kind of obsessed on being updated on that, it has recently integrated 3.3.0. Tor version and obsf4 feature, also it will introduce this year DeepSend, which is planned to be based on trustless multi-signature technologies and thus will provide edge anonymity and privacy.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: neocryptrix on February 03, 2018, 08:35:21 AM
Seems like the secret is getting out on Deep Onion. Their marketing campaign is why you're reading this. Incentives are second to none and really encourage weak hands to hodl tight.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: luxcoin on February 03, 2018, 08:38:54 AM
Hi mate,
you got the point : privacy is something you need to take care of . Sooner you realise the better.

I'd start with a consolidate coin and Zcash has great potential too and those who has a great community supporting them.
Anyway if you look at the top 50 coin you are sure not to bet right, however you can not expert for those to go something like 5x or even more in short period.

OK, you watch my signature and you already know what it will be my suggestion right?  :D :D

But I want to make you think with your own mind.
What if I tell you, that the TOR protocol is the most secure ever ? You know that , don't you?
You definitely want to take a step further and check out what the devs are coding !

You will thank you me in a month or so..


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ebenezar64 on February 03, 2018, 09:06:31 AM
I really like how you have managed to keep you post short but to the point making it fast and easy to read. Kudos to you! You have put up coins that I think every privacy enthusiast have heard about and/or are invested in.

First let's get to my holds and then let's get to the whys in the same way you did: DeepOnion, Monero, ZCoin, PivX, NavCoin. Now this might seem like a lot of coins to hold, just in the privacy space but I truly believe this is the sector that is going to explode in 2018 so it is a gamble from my side and I have most of my ALTCoin investment tilted to this sector.

DeepOnion
This is my biggest hold at the moment. They are building a "privacy platform" which will rest upon a multi-layered communications protocol which is sent via TOR for IP obfuscation and will incorporate: Zero-Knowledge, CoinJoin and Multi-signature. In order to be able to run TOR even in restricted regions, they have integrated their wallet with OBFS4 for message protocol obfuscation (already up and running). I see this as the most secure solution I have come across and if they manage to implement it some huge gains to be made. The coin is still very small-cap but might be big one day.

Monero
This is my hold because it is "the great one" right now and a safe bet. Don't need to go into the technology since you already have.

ZCoin
Also uses the Zero-knowledge proof based on the ZeroCoin protocol. It makes it possible to "mint" new Zcoins with no transaction history. ZNode gives the possibility for passive income and the MTP algorithm encourages decentralization. That is why I prefer this compared towards the other Zero-knowledge coins.

PivX
This coin is way undervalued imo so I think it will have really good gains in 2018. The technology again you have covered and I think the I2P update is going to be huge.

NavCoin
This is a small hold from back when I got into crypto so it is both a nostalgic hold and because it is gaining some good traction again.

I hope you like my summary. It is actually only two holds that differ from your list so I like that you have done your research.
Which one is the best for me? DeepOnion

@mrelich Would like your opinion on my two additions to your list: DeepOnion and ZCoin. Looked into them?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: jakiro.hovard on February 03, 2018, 09:10:35 AM
I read that Monero will be one of the most anonymous coins of the next generation, I was all clear in that article, so I'll probably also think that Monero is really a very cool anonymous coin


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: meldrio1 on February 03, 2018, 09:36:11 AM
I never knew that there are many privacy coins all I know is deeponion, maybe privacy coins are potential its good to invest for long term.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: DedvTapkax on February 03, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
The best private coin is Monero. The coin has already become a leader and other coins will not be able to replace it. Even though many of them are better than Monero.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: andor.gellenhidi on February 03, 2018, 09:49:05 AM
And why are very few people here talking about the ZenCash project, is this a bad project? As far as I remember, they presented the project very worthily, and everything that it can do, it has rather strong sides in relation to Zcash, so it's worth to buy it I think


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Knepala on February 03, 2018, 10:19:07 AM
I have been following DeepOnion since the first airdrop.
They have been consitently delivering and proving they are a project, but there is still a lot of doubters out their who will only realize the potential of this project when it is too late, making it one of the most undervalued privacy coins right now.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Rubberduck59 on February 03, 2018, 11:28:37 AM
I don’t see DeepOnion on the list 😉
Zcash isn’t getting recognition that it deserves, but I still prefer DeepOnion.

It’s a rock solid project based on TOR and at the moment massively undervalued.
A new TOR protocol with key obfuscation(Obfs4) has just been implemented, further enhancing the anonymity of DeepOnion.
There’s is still 10 airdrop rounds left, which makes it a good, and cheap, investment!
If interested, the whitepaper can be read here: https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 03, 2018, 12:54:10 PM
Did not you forget about DeepOnion? What's your opinion on that project?

I think Monero leads the pack right now.
Zcash is also useful due to the lower fees.
I think Zencash is also a promising coin for the reasons you mentioned.

But lastly, I think DeepOnion is the one with the most potential to grow. As of now it offers node anonymity since it operates on the TOR network. Even countries like china where TOR usage isn't allowed can use it with OBFS4( TOR obfuscation) which was recently added to DeepOnion. Eventually with the release of DeepSend and Votecentral, it will surely rise to one of the top coins alongside XMR and the others.

Your list was actually great. However these coins are already in the top 100's. Therefore when it comes to profit, you'll be lucky if you can still make at least 2x of your investment. That's why I am always hunting those privacy coins with lower marketcaps but have the potentials to be on Top someday.

I'm so glad that I found this rare gem DeepOnion. Let me explain why.
I first discovered it here on bitcointalk, because of its trending thread with lots of views & replies, about the developments, news & updates, specially their famous campaign called Airdrop, wherein they are rewarding their holders every week with free onions.

If we talk about technology, this coin has so many features to offer. It has already working product called DeepVault, wherein you can register & verify documents for authentication. It is integrated with TOR Network. Also with OBFS4, that allowing access to those Countries that have TOR Connection problems like China. You can stake & mine this coin (onion) as well. And the latest big news is the upcoming Android Mobile Wallet, that I have a feeling will be release this February. They also have DeepOnion Shop, where you can buy good stuff using fiat or onions :)

DeepOnion has a very nice whitepaper & solid roadmap. More upcoming great features like VoteCentral & the most awaited one, the DeepSend, that can bring anonymity in blockchain to the next level. With these information, would you still doubt whether this privacy coin will be on top someday? :)
You can confirm it by visiting their website & community, just check my signature ;)

Hi guys,
thanks for posts - looked at DeepOnion - it definitely deserves to be added to the list. I've added it there.
Best regards


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 03, 2018, 01:41:45 PM
And why are very few people here talking about the ZenCash project, is this a bad project? As far as I remember, they presented the project very worthily, and everything that it can do, it has rather strong sides in relation to Zcash, so it's worth to buy it I think

Maybe it is because ZenCash is not so well known in the community yet. In my opinion, it is a really good project with bright future. It looks to be superior to ZCash, and once it is more adopted, the price should go up quickly.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aci69 on February 03, 2018, 01:56:38 PM
Usually I like to discover unknown coins, invest on them and make profit.

So few months ago I invested in NavCoin, Deep Onion and ZenCash.
In my opinion DeepOnion and ZenCash still deserve attention and investments.

- ZenCash: the team is composed by mathematicians, mercenaries and ex CIA agents.
The price is still affordable and it will raise for sure in the future.

- DeepOnion: this is the Real Private coin, using the Tor network included the
obfs4 protocol, really useful for countries like China, Turkey, etc. still having troubles
with the Tor networks.
Moreover here there is an amazing active community behind.
I felt in love with the project and I don't think I will sell them.

- NavCoin: it is the only private coin from the list where I'm
not making profit at all. Anyway, I'm staking them, and I think they
have potential not only in New Zeland.

What do you think about these 3 private coins? ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 03, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
I really like how you have managed to keep you post short but to the point making it fast and easy to read. Kudos to you! You have put up coins that I think every privacy enthusiast have heard about and/or are invested in.

First let's get to my holds and then let's get to the whys in the same way you did: DeepOnion, Monero, ZCoin, PivX, NavCoin. Now this might seem like a lot of coins to hold, just in the privacy space but I truly believe this is the sector that is going to explode in 2018 so it is a gamble from my side and I have most of my ALTCoin investment tilted to this sector.

DeepOnion
This is my biggest hold at the moment. They are building a "privacy platform" which will rest upon a multi-layered communications protocol which is sent via TOR for IP obfuscation and will incorporate: Zero-Knowledge, CoinJoin and Multi-signature. In order to be able to run TOR even in restricted regions, they have integrated their wallet with OBFS4 for message protocol obfuscation (already up and running). I see this as the most secure solution I have come across and if they manage to implement it some huge gains to be made. The coin is still very small-cap but might be big one day.

Monero
This is my hold because it is "the great one" right now and a safe bet. Don't need to go into the technology since you already have.

ZCoin
Also uses the Zero-knowledge proof based on the ZeroCoin protocol. It makes it possible to "mint" new Zcoins with no transaction history. ZNode gives the possibility for passive income and the MTP algorithm encourages decentralization. That is why I prefer this compared towards the other Zero-knowledge coins.

PivX
This coin is way undervalued imo so I think it will have really good gains in 2018. The technology again you have covered and I think the I2P update is going to be huge.

NavCoin
This is a small hold from back when I got into crypto so it is both a nostalgic hold and because it is gaining some good traction again.

I hope you like my summary. It is actually only two holds that differ from your list so I like that you have done your research.
Which one is the best for me? DeepOnion

@mrelich Would like your opinion on my two additions to your list: DeepOnion and ZCoin. Looked into them?

Hi,
Thanks for a response and recommendations.
DeepOnion - I looked at it and added it to my list.
ZCoin - I also looked at it and seems to be similar to PivX, however PivX seems better to me  - it has a faster block time, fewer transaction fees, and a hardware wallet support (Ledger Nano S). Or does ZCoin have better features than PivX?
Best regards
 



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: MisterLG on February 03, 2018, 02:23:13 PM
My vote definitely goes to DeepOnion. I came across this project back in October when it was still 50 cents per Onion. I noticed all the signatures and the huge numbers of pages on their ANN thread so decided to check it out. The project is just 7 months old, but they are growing very very fast.. Some milestones:

- ATH of 20 USD +
- Almost 12,000 members on their forum
- 5,99 million views on their website
- One of the first with the latest TOR 0.3.3 protocol + OBFS4
- Unique DeepVault feature for securing content within the blockchain

The airdrops will be over soon so they can be listed on bigger exchanges like binance, bittrex and poloniex. They will also release a feature around that time called Deepsend which will make users 100% anonymous and untraceable :) You will find their white paper here: https://deeponion.org


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: cl37007 on February 03, 2018, 03:12:16 PM
I like DeepOnion and have a few of them. Their dev team is really active and just rolled out Tor 0.3.3 integration bring it bang up to date and the OBFS4 protocol means wider adoption in countries that block Tor. The white paper is out if anyone is interested https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf

I am also holding a little bit of Monero which probably has the widest usage out of all the coins on your list but it is a little pricey to buy now


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: whofeelsitknowsit on February 03, 2018, 03:43:57 PM
No mention of spectrecoin?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: sanyinchen on February 03, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
I think we are all know a lot about deepOnion . But we still know there is a problem in deepOnion wallet.
It is that we can not connect the tor node in some countries , such as china . But there is no problem .
The wallet has updated a lot , the lastest wallet has a new feature , deepOnion has updated the tor version and add  obfs4 .
It's meaning that you can connect tor node without using SSR or VPN.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: AshCoins on February 03, 2018, 04:23:05 PM
Sumo is the most promising imo.  Fast development, truly fungible.  Small market cap means lots of room to grow.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Noelnada on February 03, 2018, 04:36:23 PM
I think there are many promising privacy coins out there like Nav and Sumo but as my forum signature suggests I support DeepOnion which is natively integrated into the TOR network and uses the obfs4 protocol. The DeepOnion project objective is to integrate as many privacy layers as needed to be a truly censorship-resistant cryptocurrency, including Zero Knowledge (like Zerocash, Zerocoin protocols) and a transaction trace obfuscation system. In my opinion it's undervalued considering the current working product and even more undervalued considering coming features like VoteCentral voting system and smart contracts.  :D



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: MrAAKK on February 03, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
All the coins you mentioned got a promising future but let me speak a little about my favourite one: Deeponion. As you said, they updated with the latest TOR 0.3.3 protocol and OBFS4 feature, Glad you added it.
At the same time, there are other features on the way of development like Deepsend that will allow more secure and anonymous transactions, the Android Mobile Wallet they will get released in the upcoming days and the ongoing airdrop where 10 rounds of free distributed coins are left.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ebenezar64 on February 03, 2018, 08:03:10 PM

Hi,
Thanks for a response and recommendations.
DeepOnion - I looked at it and added it to my list.
ZCoin - I also looked at it and seems to be similar to PivX, however PivX seems better to me  - it has a faster block time, fewer transaction fees, and a hardware wallet support (Ledger Nano S). Or does ZCoin have better features than PivX?
Best regards
 

I agree that ZCoin and PivX are similar and I think it is up to you which you prefer. ZCoin is Proof of work and PivX Proof of stake. As mentioned I like the fact that ZCoin uses the MTP algorithm which is memory heavy and encourages decentralization which is normally a problem in PoW coins.

But I must admit that I didn't know the transaction fee differences was so much smaller with PivX. That combined with the 10x faster block times might have me leaning towards PivX as the better choice. I have to admit that you have convinced me and that I will probably shift some of my holdings toward PivX instead of ZCoin :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ccexicocartel on February 03, 2018, 08:20:23 PM
Do you think IoT Chain is a privacy coin? they cover security of IoT user data from bot attacks. A really good project that's highly underrated. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/iot-chain/


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: snowboard on February 03, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
They best privacy coin is so anonymous that it's very under the radar... this is what a real anonymous coin should look like... if i mention the name you will be rich. so i won't.
Do your own homework! and don't read all these comparison charts made by investors. Monero investors say Monero the best, deep onion people get free coins to say that they're the best..etc. etc. etc.  but in fact none of these coins mentioned on the list can do what the real anonymous coin can do. its for sale on a few exchanges, but again if you don't make the time to do your own research it's no point of becoming rich..


Don't send me PM's, do your own research.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: johnnywoo2015 on February 03, 2018, 10:08:24 PM
I like and using mainly Monero as payment method and PivX for holding.

About Onion - don't be fooled. It's regular altcoin with tor on exit nodes. Nothing 'Privacy' here because every bitcoin wallet is supporting it.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Fidemoga on February 03, 2018, 10:26:43 PM
I read here in the forum, that agencies investigated into transactions and could track all transactions of cryptocurrencies, that claimed to secure privacy like Dash, ZCash, Monero and a currency, I don't remember anymore. But all transactions could be sorted to the owners with the transfered amounts.  Only Monero could stand the track. Transactions where trackable but not the amounts. But unfortunately I can't remember anymore, where the thread was placed here in forum and in which context the transactions where tracked. Maybe because of taxations or illegelal activities. The search here didn't help, also not the search on Google. Maybe members here remember.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 03, 2018, 10:37:10 PM
How about Sumokoin ?
SUMOKOIN is created with a high level of privacy in mind, setting Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12 to conceal sources/amounts transferred and make it high resistance to blockchain analysis.
SUMOKOIN is untraceable; sending and receiving addresses are encrypted, transacted amounts are obfuscated by default. Transactions on the SUMOKOIN blockchain cannot be linked to a particular user or real-world identity.

I would say without a doubt Monero, it is extremely undervalued atm it has a great development team with complete privacy. I am also a huge fan of SUMO which is a Monero fork

Sumo is the most promising imo.  Fast development, truly fungible.  Small market cap means lots of room to grow.

I did not know about the sumokoin, thanks guys for the information. I've put more established coins into my list because otherwise it would be too long.. However, at first glance Sumokoin looks like a promising coin that should be higher than at the end of the fifth hundred on the coinmarketcap. Slightly improved Monero fork, developers do their job, people talk about it on bitcointalk :) - might be a good investment.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ggameon on February 03, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
i think monero is the best and maybe XVG would come in second? but governments will have a big headache about this type of coins existing and they will try to stop its operation.

For now you are probably right.
The government agencies were aware of this from the beginning of bitcoin. I almost "donated"money to bitcoin. I didn't because it was a hassle to do so. I wanted to buy some, but was sure it has no future.I was sure they will be stopped even jail the guys under some pretence. We now know that did not happen and now it will never be stopped.
I can't predict what will happen, but this cat and mouse play will make things better, privacy coins will become smarter and governments will be chasing them.
You simply cant stop a multi billion dollars ( trillion ??) movement.....it is too complicated. The idea behind it was never imagined untill recently and implications are too big....

Anyway i have mostly verge and some monero. I see no big future for monero for now, verge may have a better chance...or some of the other coins or any coin which is still to come

The thing is these coins will evolve, they are still all babies and there is a huge amount of improvements which should be implimented.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 03, 2018, 10:48:03 PM
They best privacy coin is so anonymous that it's very under the radar... this is what a real anonymous coin should look like... if i mention the name you will be rich. so i won't.
Do your own homework! and don't read all these comparison charts made by investors. Monero investors say Monero the best, deep onion people get free coins to say that they're the best..etc. etc. etc.  but in fact none of these coins mentioned on the list can do what the real anonymous coin can do. its for sale on a few exchanges, but again if you don't make the time to do your own research it's no point of becoming rich..


Don't send me PM's, do your own research.

Reading others' opinions certainly helps in doing everyone's homework. It certainly helps you as well - that's why you're here on a bitcointalk, right? If someone knows about a good coin, it does not make sense to leave it to himself - if he tells the others about it, he will help himself as well - by making his favorite coin popular in the community there is a good chance of increasing the value of his investment :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: beetfarmer1 on February 03, 2018, 10:49:07 PM
I'm also a fan of Deep Onion. It has many of the features of Spectrecoin, but Onion seems to have a much better team and a more solid roadmap!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: snowboard on February 03, 2018, 11:22:28 PM
They best privacy coin is so anonymous that it's very under the radar... this is what a real anonymous coin should look like... if i mention the name you will be rich. so i won't.
Do your own homework! and don't read all these comparison charts made by investors. Monero investors say Monero the best, deep onion people get free coins to say that they're the best..etc. etc. etc.  but in fact none of these coins mentioned on the list can do what the real anonymous coin can do. its for sale on a few exchanges, but again if you don't make the time to do your own research it's no point of becoming rich..


Don't send me PM's, do your own research.

Reading others' opinions certainly helps in doing everyone's homework. It certainly helps you as well - that's why you're here on a bitcointalk, right? If someone knows about a good coin, it does not make sense to leave it to himself - if he tells the others about it, he will help himself as well - by making his favorite coin popular in the community there is a good chance of increasing the value of his investment :)


give it a shot... shouldnt be difficult. google is your best friend, besides there aren't too many anoncoins. with a little research you will find the one i mentioned. it has innovative tech coming soon...


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Cryptohad on February 03, 2018, 11:28:52 PM
Did not you forget about DeepOnion? What's your opinion on that project?
Deep Onion projects are still in progress, and there are some suitable exchanges for deep unity such as etherdelta, kucoin, hitbtc.
I think Deep Onion sale in the token is a bit late, but it seems like a maximal target will happen at the end of the sale.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: litmus on February 04, 2018, 01:06:32 AM


DeepOnion is certainly one to get into, and this is from a purely technical perspective. I felt this thread already had a spectacular showing by my co-advocates and wasn't going to beat a dead horse, but seeing a comment like this made me post because it's just so un-informed:

About Onion - don't be fooled. It's regular altcoin with tor on exit nodes. Nothing 'Privacy' here because every bitcoin wallet is supporting it.

DeepOnion actually works in the the exact opposite of the claim made here. The DeepOnion blockchain transactions all take place WITHIN the TOR network. There is no exit node traffic occurring.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: godless_toast on February 04, 2018, 03:28:55 AM
sentiment in here says monero is the best privacy coin and i would agree. the team adds more and more security and privacy features to the coin as time goes on, and they're even working on a private browser called kovri, kinda like tor

i've also come across deeponion (by accident, actually) and it looks like it has a solid team as well. what convinced me to get some was their q&a by themonkii, watched a couple and just felt like it was legit.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: cryptopussies on February 04, 2018, 03:38:22 AM
Best privacy coin isnt listed here,ive spent a lot of times of researching which coins are worthy investment but i didnt see XSPEC here it is the most updated and advanced privacy coin that will surely give you a 100% anonimity in your transactions,my boy! you need to do a lot of research and do not trust what other's people suggestions know it by yourself.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ebenezar64 on February 04, 2018, 07:53:40 AM
They best privacy coin is so anonymous that it's very under the radar... this is what a real anonymous coin should look like... if i mention the name you will be rich. so i won't.
Do your own homework! and don't read all these comparison charts made by investors. Monero investors say Monero the best, deep onion people get free coins to say that they're the best..etc. etc. etc.  but in fact none of these coins mentioned on the list can do what the real anonymous coin can do. its for sale on a few exchanges, but again if you don't make the time to do your own research it's no point of becoming rich..


Don't send me PM's, do your own research.

Reading others' opinions certainly helps in doing everyone's homework. It certainly helps you as well - that's why you're here on a bitcointalk, right? If someone knows about a good coin, it does not make sense to leave it to himself - if he tells the others about it, he will help himself as well - by making his favorite coin popular in the community there is a good chance of increasing the value of his investment :)


give it a shot... shouldnt be difficult. google is your best friend, besides there aren't too many anoncoins. with a little research you will find the one i mentioned. it has innovative tech coming soon...

Well you can basically take your pick. There are at least 40 anon ALT coins out there that could be considered small-mid caps. I have done some research and I guess you could be talking about XPEC, CloackCoin, Phore...
I think you could mean CloackCoin and the release of Enigma but as I said it could be a number of many.

PivX still seems a better alternative to Phore and as for CloakCoin Enigma that is similar to I2P  or like DeepOnion is planning with the combination of Zero-knowledge + Coinjoin and Multi sig. If it is better or worse I don't know, I just know that TOR is a proven method for obfuscating IP so I still like DeepOnion ahead of any of these but privacy is a broad space and it could be good to diversify.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: minimaus on February 04, 2018, 07:59:38 AM
I suggest @Viberate, a super music industry that has its coin. This is a real explosion.
Viberate announces collaboration with Imogen Heap:
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/01/31/viberate-imogen-heap-strive-give-equal-opportunity-every-artist/

“AirBnb of Music”:
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/viberate-coo-viberates-blockchain-will-become-airbnb-music/

Viberate in a nutshell:
https://change-underground.com/viberate-end-ticketing-fraud/

Viberate joins Ethereum Enterprise Alliance:
https://cryptovest.com/news/viberate-vib-music-platform-booms-ahead-of-enterprise-ethereum-alliance-partnership/

Good Vibrations: ICO review:
https://blokt.com/icos/viberate-ico-review

SERVICE:
https://www.viberate.com/

INVESTOR SITE:
https://www.viberate.io/

FACEVOOK PAGE:
https://www.facebook.com/viberateOFC/

FACEBOOK GROUP:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Viberate.VIB.token/

TWITTER PAGE:
https://www.twitter.com/Viberate_com


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: VackFromOhm on February 04, 2018, 09:26:37 AM
Glad to see you added DeepOnion to the list- I know that they may have started off on the wrong foot with the community by attracting a bunch of spammers at the beginning, but they've really improved how the official forum is run and when people are eligible to participate in things. They've gotten a lot more strict and the community as a whole improved by a large margin.

I'd also like to say that most of the technology is yet to be implemented- the devs have followed through on every single milestone goal over the past 6 months, and are very ambitious for the future. The whitepaper came out last month, and we recently got screenshots of the mobile wallet coming soon. It's really exciting to be in on the ground floor with a coin that is criminally undervalued!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: svojoe on February 04, 2018, 10:03:27 AM
I think that each of these coins deserves our attention as a long-term investments. Privacy coins become more and more popular and the price should gradually increase. My favorites among the anonymous coins are Monero and PIVX. They have been for a long time in my portfolio.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrlovely22 on February 04, 2018, 10:05:26 AM
If your capital is small, consider potential coins such as ArcBlock or Doge
And if you have the money, invest in the top 10 coins on CoinMarketCap


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: george_hured on February 04, 2018, 10:07:56 AM
A lot of people here talked about different projects of Monero ZCash, and you heard about such a coin Karbowanec? They say that it surpasses such serious projects as Monero, probably worth exploring this project more seriously


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Rashid pk on February 04, 2018, 10:09:42 AM
I have only few coins that i hold and of them is the DeepOnion coin. Privacy coins will be trending in 2018 and most altcoins don't have a use case and that's why most don't succeed but I can see in DeepOnion true application value because anonymity will be a very valuable thing in the upcoming times for cryptocurrencies.
On the Community I can say that since I arrived in crypto I have never seen any other project community grow so much in so little time and a dev team so committed to the project like I see in DeepOnion. Lets see what 2018 will bring to DeepOnion!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: cryptorTUX on February 04, 2018, 10:19:54 AM
OP you may consider adding intense coin, it is relatively new those, started last year. They are privacy related coin with aim to make decentralized VPN as their main product. There should be extensions made for browsers as well as real vpn trough their client enabling us to set up and use vpn.

Anyway here is the website https://intensecoin.com/ if you consider it to be good project you could as well put it there on your list.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Gorgeous011235 on February 05, 2018, 02:54:16 AM
The coins i like most on this list are ZenCash and DeepOnion...and the reason is because they are both based on some kind of DAO consensus...i like the fact that a coin can be ruled just by his holders...indeed DeepOnion will soon release a revolutionary feature named VoteCentral that will allow holders to vote for the next big moves of the coin...
DeepOnion is also completely updated to the latest version of Tor protocol..offering this way a much better and safer privacy over transactions than most of privacy coins can offer actually..
An Android wallet is up to be released in the next weeks and this will allow holders to stake and spend their Onions just by using their mobile phones...
as a DeepOnion holder and believer i can't just wait to place my hands on this new mobile wallet  ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: needfix24 on February 05, 2018, 03:19:11 AM
Woaah. You've got a great list of privacy coins listed here. I strongly believed in the saying "save the best for last", DeepOnion for me is the best among all the coins you listed here.
An astonishing massive community makes this project a formidable competitor among those coins. Incorporated by great features that keeping the privacy, security, and integrity safe of its users makes this coin more powerful and dominant. Still, this project has a lot of room to grow. Upgrading the TOR feature to its finest by adding obfs4 features.Android mobile wallet will launch soon.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: bitcoinsc on February 05, 2018, 05:51:13 AM
xspec, cloak , grs, electroneum, xvg, xst, safex. about to go to places.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: USBitcoinServices.Com on February 05, 2018, 07:33:06 AM
Interesting list of privacy coins! It also very interesting to see that DeepOnion was added here. even with its short time in the crypto sphere, DeepOnion is growing very fast, so now we can even compare to the first privacy coins we saw a few years ago like Dash or Monero. For those that don't know ye, DeepOnion recently added obfs4 feature to provide the user another layer of privacy/security, plus the TOR protocol which natively is integrated.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ronnylov on February 05, 2018, 07:36:09 AM
You have forgot Intense Coin on the list.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Ebenezar64 on February 05, 2018, 08:44:40 AM
You have forgot Intense Coin on the list.

IntenseCoin with the decentralized VPN idea is very interesting. I have not become deeply involved in the technology behind the coin yet but it is an interesting project and you can participate in mining pools right now with your HW. The mining isn't that efficient but if you think the coin will increase in value I think you might be able to make some mining money there.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: h0g0f0g0 on February 05, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
sumo and dero are promising projects.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: konco kereng on February 05, 2018, 10:12:13 AM
etherium token (ETH)
according to me is privacy coins list which one is the best.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: sylance on February 05, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
I'm really happy to see threads like this as I believe privacy based coins fulfill the intention and vision of bitcoin's purpose.  As crypto gains popularity and usage, governments and other powerful entities (banks) will either try to subvert or resist its usage.  A quick Google search will easily find hundreds of news articles about governments tying bitcoin transactions down to their citizens... even those using the dark web.

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/bitcoin-transactions-are-being-monitored-on-the-dark-web-thanks-to-this-company-36552202.html (Bitcoin transactions are being monitored on the dark web thanks to this company - Independent.ie)

I say this because I believe privacy based coins is the new frontier for crypto based currencies so this is a good discussion to have.  The original list of ZCash, Monero, Dash, Verge, etc is a good one.  For an investment I'd say that any of the original list is good to buy and hold since I believe privacy based coins will grow in demand.

For me though, the best investment and the coin that'll have the best privacy for usage is DeepOnion.  It combines all the privacy features most of the coins specialize in.  It'll leverage the new upgraded TOR network to make it available throughout the world.  DeepSend again leverages all the tech others only specialize in such as Zero Knowledge, CoinJoin, and Ring Signatures to fully complete the privacy picture.  So for me, DeepOnion is the clear winner.

One final note... if you're a true believe in the fundamental right to privacy, if you believe every human being across the planet has a right to privately send value from one person to another then DeepOnion has another benefit.  Running the wallet not only allows you to stake coins and get passive income, it also adds nodes to the TOR network increasing its security.  As DeepOnion continues to grow it'll be adding thousands of extra nodes for TOR privacy.  So not only are you protecting your own privacy your helping people across the world.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 05, 2018, 04:35:42 PM
I'm really happy to see threads like this as I believe privacy based coins fulfill the intention and vision of bitcoin's purpose.  As crypto gains popularity and usage, governments and other powerful entities (banks) will either try to subvert or resist its usage.  A quick Google search will easily find hundreds of news articles about governments tying bitcoin transactions down to their citizens... even those using the dark web.

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/bitcoin-transactions-are-being-monitored-on-the-dark-web-thanks-to-this-company-36552202.html (Bitcoin transactions are being monitored on the dark web thanks to this company - Independent.ie)

I say this because I believe privacy based coins is the new frontier for crypto based currencies so this is a good discussion to have.  The original list of ZCash, Monero, Dash, Verge, etc is a good one.  For an investment I'd say that any of the original list is good to buy and hold since I believe privacy based coins will grow in demand.

For me though, the best investment and the coin that'll have the best privacy for usage is DeepOnion.  It combines all the privacy features most of the coins specialize in.  It'll leverage the new upgraded TOR network to make it available throughout the world.  DeepSend again leverages all the tech others only specialize in such as Zero Knowledge, CoinJoin, and Ring Signatures to fully complete the privacy picture.  So for me, DeepOnion is the clear winner.

One final note... if you're a true believe in the fundamental right to privacy, if you believe every human being across the planet has a right to privately send value from one person to another then DeepOnion has another benefit.  Running the wallet not only allows you to stake coins and get passive income, it also adds nodes to the TOR network increasing its security.  As DeepOnion continues to grow it'll be adding thousands of extra nodes for TOR privacy.  So not only are you protecting your own privacy your helping people across the world.

Sure ,governments want to have control over everything, and they invent various pretexts - the fight against terrorism, the fight against corruption, the fight against crime, the fight against money laundering ... but it is just the fight against our liberty. As Benjamin Franklin said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Kavallo on February 05, 2018, 05:33:13 PM
For obvious reasons I could not read through the whole thread so I don't know if someone has already mentioned ZERO, ZCLASSIC, HUSH, which are other less known variants of ZCASH. I am a fan of ZEN, by the way.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: trickyriky on February 05, 2018, 05:56:13 PM
ZCash is really interesting coin. ZK-Snark proof protocol in blockchain of this currency is a unique feature that put these money in a row of best privacy coins that you ever met. No sums and sides of partnerships will be known.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 06, 2018, 10:09:41 PM
You have forgot Intense Coin on the list.

IntenseCoin with the decentralized VPN idea is very interesting. I have not become deeply involved in the technology behind the coin yet but it is an interesting project and you can participate in mining pools right now with your HW. The mining isn't that efficient but if you think the coin will increase in value I think you might be able to make some mining money there.

Guys, thanks for a suggestion. Looked at it and i like that idea of decentralized VPN services. I'll add it to my list !


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: pooque on February 06, 2018, 10:39:48 PM
really?you dont consider the most anonimous privacy coin which is XSPEC?these coins you have listed has been outdated by the new breeds of privacy coins.Xspec has the most advance technology OBFS4 which will give you 100% anonymity in each transactions you make.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 06, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
How about Sumokoin ?
SUMOKOIN is created with a high level of privacy in mind, setting Ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12 to conceal sources/amounts transferred and make it high resistance to blockchain analysis.
SUMOKOIN is untraceable; sending and receiving addresses are encrypted, transacted amounts are obfuscated by default. Transactions on the SUMOKOIN blockchain cannot be linked to a particular user or real-world identity.

I would say without a doubt Monero, it is extremely undervalued atm it has a great development team with complete privacy. I am also a huge fan of SUMO which is a Monero fork

Sumo is the most promising imo.  Fast development, truly fungible.  Small market cap means lots of room to grow.

I did not know about the sumokoin, thanks guys for the information. I've put more established coins into my list because otherwise it would be too long.. However, at first glance Sumokoin looks like a promising coin that should be higher than at the end of the fifth hundred on the coinmarketcap. Slightly improved Monero fork, developers do their job, people talk about it on bitcointalk :) - might be a good investment.


Guys, I've decided to add the Sumokoin to the list because more people wrote about it in this thread (although it's a low market cap coin) and this might mean the potential for the future.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 06, 2018, 11:29:20 PM
No mention of spectrecoin?

xspec, cloak , grs, electroneum, xvg, xst, safex. about to go to places.

really?you dont consider the most anonimous privacy coin which is XSPEC?these coins you have listed has been outdated by the new breeds of privacy coins.Xspec has the most advance technology OBFS4 which will give you 100% anonymity in each transactions you make.

Thanks for suggestion guys. I did not know much about Spectrocoin before, but I've looked at it now - the privacy features are great, so I am putting it into my list. However, they don't have any whitepaper, which is a bit weird. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: bitcoinsc on February 07, 2018, 03:57:04 AM
I heard sumo is a fork of monero


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: WhoKn0ws on February 07, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
DeepOnion as mentioned in your post has been recently delivering advancements as far as their privacy and security goes. With new updates such as  TOR EDGE 3.3.0 + OBFS4 and most recently added MEEK as pluggable transports it can be said that internet censorship is not an issue.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Bytem3 on February 07, 2018, 03:53:50 PM
Take a look at NAV coin (https://coincodex.com/crypto/nav-coin/).


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Crypto_lion on February 07, 2018, 03:57:50 PM
I want to invest in a privacy coin but I am not able to decide which is good one .Some people say verge is good but when the mcafee shillings started and the coin dumped I am no longer sure. Does it technically have what it takes to be a good privacy coin like monero in future ? How good is the team?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: novocaine on February 07, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
i think deep onion too is very good in concerns of privacy of the users, as well Monero that i like so much the total anonimity of transactions between wallets

other coins listed are good too in terms of privacy of their enviropments, but i think this year will be more new coins like those due to tthe high demand all around the world of more anonimous transactions different from the classic BTc transaction

anyway good list, thanks for the share  :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrchef111 on February 07, 2018, 04:05:36 PM
I definitely vote for DeepOnion as the best privacy coin. I have thoroughly enjoyed my time investing in this anonymous coin that uses the Tor network. I know I know, everyone says that about their favorite coin. Well here are the reasons why I like this coin and have invested heavily into it:

-Free Airdrop (I could stop here, but won't)
-Integrated with Obfs4
-Secure Wallets for Windows, Linux, and Mac (Mobile Wallet almost out)
-Amazing community (They hold contest, bounties, giveaways, and other ways to earn more onions).
-Active and Deeply committed Dev team.

The list goes on. Check out the white paper here: https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf

Come on over and join us. If you like what you see, stay awhile.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: uobaaagrf on February 07, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
I think XMR and DASH, XZC more suitable for investment, very simple, technical strength really good, especially XZC, the current unit price of less than 50 dollars, I think it is a very good buying opportunity.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 07, 2018, 06:11:30 PM
I want to invest in a privacy coin but I am not able to decide which is good one .Some people say verge is good but when the mcafee shillings started and the coin dumped I am no longer sure. Does it technically have what it takes to be a good privacy coin like monero in future ? How good is the team?


Verge is not bad but still a bit overhyped. There are other good privacy coins with a lower market cap - look at the list at the beginning of this topic.
I think Verge have quite a good development team, there are a lot of developers, however most of the work is being done by just few of them - look at https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/graphs/contributors


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on February 07, 2018, 10:05:25 PM
I like ZenCash because of zk-SNARKS,Domain Fronting,IPFS and DAO. Also IntenseCoin should have a bright future.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ycoin123 on February 07, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

have you heard of deeponion i don't see it anywhere here


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: sunnycoiner23 on February 07, 2018, 10:08:26 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

when i think of privacy i think of these 3three:-
Zencash
Monero
and
DeepOnion


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 09, 2018, 01:45:19 AM
A lot of people here talked about different projects of Monero ZCash, and you heard about such a coin Karbowanec? They say that it surpasses such serious projects as Monero, probably worth exploring this project more seriously

Hi, made a quick look at it, and it looks like just an older version of Monero (with CryptoNote). Looking at their roadmap, they don't plan to include newest Monero improvements. Does it have any advantage over Monero? Form a quick look, I can't see any..


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 09, 2018, 01:51:51 AM
I heard sumo is a fork of monero

Yes, it is.  Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets. However they don't bring any new technical idea as far as I know.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: #CapsLOck on February 09, 2018, 02:28:05 AM
Base on what I read and I saw, the coins that really captivatid my attention is both the navcoin and moreno because you can actually observe that the transaction are both secured and thats the best thing that the coin should have.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: dreamer81 on February 09, 2018, 02:51:06 PM
I think that it's important to differentiate between privacy and anonymity.

Anonymity is when people will not know who initiated a transaction. This is how monero, dash etc works. But this is not really enough. If a government agency wants info about who made which transaction, they can always find the IP that the user initiated the transaction from. BAM it's over.

Privacy is when you have both anonymity and your location is kept private. This is achieved when using coins that operate over the TOR network like Deeponion and Spectre. These are the coins that will rocket when people finds out how vulnerable monero/dash is.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on February 09, 2018, 03:30:56 PM
I think that it's important to differentiate between privacy and anonymity.

Anonymity is when people will not know who initiated a transaction. This is how monero, dash etc works. But this is not really enough. If a government agency wants info about who made which transaction, they can always find the IP that the user initiated the transaction from. BAM it's over.

Privacy is when you have both anonymity and your location is kept private. This is achieved when using coins that operate over the TOR network like Deeponion and Spectre. These are the coins that will rocket when people finds out how vulnerable monero/dash is.

Hi,
TOR helps when you need to connect to some exchange or online wallet, which might keep track of IP addresses that connected to them.
I also like DomainFronting, which is hiding the endpoints as well, and is used in ZenCash.

However, I believe this level of security might not be so much needed in the future, with P2P transactions and decentralized exchanges (which are becoming more and more populari). If there is no "central" point which logs IP endpoints of transactions, how would they know who initiated the transaction? There is no IP info stored on the blockchain.  



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aci69 on February 10, 2018, 12:46:14 PM
I think that it's important to differentiate between privacy and anonymity.

Anonymity is when people will not know who initiated a transaction. This is how monero, dash etc works. But this is not really enough. If a government agency wants info about who made which transaction, they can always find the IP that the user initiated the transaction from. BAM it's over.

Privacy is when you have both anonymity and your location is kept private. This is achieved when using coins that operate over the TOR network like Deeponion and Spectre. These are the coins that will rocket when people finds out how vulnerable monero/dash is.

Hi,
TOR helps when you need to connect to some exchange or online wallet, which might keep track of IP addresses that connected to them.
I also like DomainFronting, which is hiding the endpoints as well, and is used in ZenCash.

However, I believe this level of security might not be so much needed in the future, with P2P transactions and decentralized exchanges (which are becoming more and more populari). If there is no "central" point which logs IP endpoints of transactions, how would they know who initiated the transaction? There is no IP info stored on the blockchain.  



In my opinion, and maybe I'm making a mistake, you are reasoning with the actual legislations.
In the future who knows what is going to happen?
Me too, in my long term portfolio, I invested in DeepOnion, ZenCash and NavCoin because I think
they could solve some issues will pop up.
Expecially DeepOnion and ZenCash, I like them a lot. ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Jon88 on February 10, 2018, 12:58:56 PM
If they promise what they say then IntenseCoin for making profit.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: snowboard on February 10, 2018, 01:13:31 PM
Spectrecoin definately nr 1, then zoin, take a look at zoin


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Sikka157 on February 16, 2018, 03:32:13 AM
DeepOnion is definitely the best privacy coin out there. It has an active community, excellent development team that never gets tired of bringing more updates. The roadmap is awesome--Votecentral, Deepsend, DeepVault online, smart contracts, mobile wallets and many more things are coming soon. DeepOnion uses the latest TOR EDGE 0.3.3 with OBFS4 and MEEK that lets it be used in the countries like China which blocks TOR. The marketcap is also very low and the coin supply is also very low, so it has a huge potential for growth.
Here is a link to the whitepaper if interested to read https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: stfN2128 on February 16, 2018, 08:29:19 PM
DeepOnion is definitely the best privacy coin out there. It has an active community, excellent development team that never gets tired of bringing more updates. The roadmap is awesome--Votecentral, Deepsend, DeepVault online, smart contracts, mobile wallets and many more things are coming soon. DeepOnion uses the latest TOR EDGE 0.3.3 with OBFS4 and MEEK that lets it be used in the countries like China which blocks TOR. The marketcap is also very low and the coin supply is also very low, so it has a huge potential for growth.
Here is a link to the whitepaper if interested to read https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf

There is nothing more to say. At the moment there are free airdrops every friday, i think after the airdrops are finished (should be 9 weeks left if i`m right) the price will grow this year to a three figure...i guess.  8)
The only thing i can add is the online shop for some merch (https://deeponion.shop/) and the DeepOnion song with prof. music video. :D Really active community as you can see ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7cxoz9d8gQ


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: digitalcap on February 17, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
DeepOnion. The community and forum are fun and huge and always helpful, the team is always there to answer questions and very transparent, new features coming soon, more exchanges, mobile wallets and always keeping up with the best upgrades like newest tor, meek and OBFS4.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: JJack@ on February 17, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
I completely agree, you cannot go wrong with this project IMO. There are projects out there such as Monero that have a great name in the crypto community but DO is just something special IMO. Great community, great developers and great original features!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: The Young Turk on February 17, 2018, 11:03:09 PM
Thank you for this great comparison post. I gave you merit.
I think Monero is the best one. It's the most reliable privacy coin for me. There are some coins in the list I didn't know how to work but now I know.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: t3ChNo on February 17, 2018, 11:07:38 PM
Great list and I have most them. Monero will still be there at the top but I think DeepOnion will have better features soon.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on February 24, 2018, 10:46:36 PM
My favourite ones are Monero and ZenCash. Perhaps Spectrecoin as well. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aci69 on February 25, 2018, 09:05:26 AM
Me too I invested in DeepOnion and ZenCash.
Actually I'm taking part of the free DeepOnion airdrops:
it is a nice and elegant way to spread, fairly distribute your
projects shares, your coins in this case, between the community.

I think could be interesting for everyone give a look at the website
and at the whitepaper...  ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: soloinvestor on February 25, 2018, 12:12:30 PM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: TACryptoo on February 25, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
also a $onion fan. i did prefer for this coin . nice tech behind it !


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mahimonliner on February 25, 2018, 12:25:10 PM
In this list, Monero is dominating the privacy coinmarket.
Nav, and verge are highly underrated coins. sure they have much more potential in the future.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aitorp6 on February 26, 2018, 09:35:43 PM
In my particular case, I'm very concerned about privacy (that is mainly why I use Linux  :P), I have invested in the following two projects. ZenCash and DeepOnion.

Both of them are quite young and both of them can hide you IP and (Deeponion is a sort future) are able to make untraceable transactions. I think that if somebody want a privacy coin, these two facts (anonymity and untraceable transactions) are the main pillars.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: knien on February 26, 2018, 09:56:28 PM
I'm a real privacy coin hoarder and I own several of the listed ones. from large to smaller bags.

As an early adoptor I made good profits on Monero and Dash. These were my largest bags measured in $USD
I've sold part of my Monero and Dash bags to invest in newer low market cap privacy coins with great potential.

My biggest low market cap bag is DeepOnion as I think the tech is outstandind (Native Integrated with latest TOR version, OBFS4 + meek, Stealth addresses).
I strongly believe the DeepOnion will be competing with the "big guys" in the mid term.

There are several other promising low market cap projects where I'm investing smaller amounts.
So just sharing my view instead of bashing other coins.

For all the Privacy coin fans, A nice article that you can share with people that don't understand why privacy is important because "they have nothing to hide":
https://steemit.com/anonimty/@andhovesyan/it-s-not-a-secret-it-s-just-none-of-your-business






Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: GreatArkansas on February 26, 2018, 10:05:39 PM
Thank you so much for this. What the most I really like is Verge, verge is the best for privacy coins because Verge developers are really active, they are making the project more interesting and has different special features that can boost the privacy of every people using the Verge.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on February 26, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
For my level of knowing ZCash is most privacy at the moment. They even implemented their ZSL technology for JP Morgan's Quorum enterprise platform.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 26, 2018, 11:08:23 PM
Thank you for this great comparison post. I gave you merit.
I think Monero is the best one. It's the most reliable privacy coin for me. There are some coins in the list I didn't know how to work but now I know.

Hi, thanks a lot for the merit. It's quite difficult to get some.. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 26, 2018, 11:14:38 PM
For all the Privacy coin fans, A nice article that you can share with people that don't understand why privacy is important because "they have nothing to hide":
https://steemit.com/anonimty/@andhovesyan/it-s-not-a-secret-it-s-just-none-of-your-business

Hi, thanks for a link to that great article. Privacy coins have a great future as (hopefully) more and more people will get aware of how important their privacy is.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on February 27, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
xspec, cloak , grs, electroneum, xvg, xst, safex. about to go to places.

Hi, I have added Electroneum to the list as it is a Monero fork and it's quite popular. Their team seem to be good in marketing. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: napman on February 27, 2018, 05:59:15 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ntrader on February 27, 2018, 06:15:16 AM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.


Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.




I am not agree with that list, if you check tecnical chart of that coins you will find out that they have manly resistant and you can choose other coins to investing with lower resistance level.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on February 27, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
I am not agree with that list, if you check tecnical chart of that coins you will find out that they have manly resistant and you can choose other coins to investing with lower resistance level.

I don't understand - you mean that all the privacy coins are at technical resistance levels? What a nonsense. Look at graphs :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: civiszero on February 27, 2018, 06:03:48 PM
2018 all going to be about smartcash


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: andhovesyan on March 01, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
Quote
DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.
DeepOnion recently realized a new feature - "Stealth Address". It's another security layer, which allows receiving $ONIONS without compromising your real address.
Also, I think it won't be superfluous to mention the upcoming features. VoteCentral will provide something like "anonymous democracy", and of course DeepSend which will provide the highest level of anonymity.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Freelancer76 on March 01, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
2018 all going to be about smartcash
Don`t agree with you mate, 2018 will be the year of privacy coins. That is not only my opinion but vast majority of prominent crypto figures out there, check some articles and videos about it.
Everybody is talking about the importance of privacy, and when we talk about privacy coins, I am putting my money not only into mainstream players like Zcash, but also on smaller coins like Spectre, GBX or Deep Onion.
The last one having everything going through TOR network, with Meek and OBFS4 protocols implemented, making him a good option even for those countries that ban crypto or blocking TOR protocol like China.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: NeverSop on March 01, 2018, 09:36:16 PM
Quote
DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.
DeepOnion recently realized a new feature - "Stealth Address". It's another security layer, which allows receiving $ONIONS without compromising your real address.
Also, I think it won't be superfluous to mention the upcoming features. VoteCentral will provide something like "anonymous democracy", and of course DeepSend which will provide the highest level of anonymity.
DeepOnion is a great project and I have invested in it since the days of investing in DeepOnion on commercial sites. I think that DeepOnion will grow strongly in the future as it always receives great support from the investment community. This project always follows the plan and that is what makes the investor really love it.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on March 02, 2018, 01:13:28 AM
I am not agree with that list, if you check tecnical chart of that coins you will find out that they have manly resistant and you can choose other coins to investing with lower resistance level.

I don't understand - you mean that all the privacy coins are at technical resistance levels? What a nonsense. Look at graphs :)

I don't understand him as well - I think it's a typical spam to farm posts for a signature campaign or rank upgrade.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on March 02, 2018, 01:18:45 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

Hi,
thanks for letting us know about Ethereum Meta.
However, I'm not sure if it will be succesfull in the future, as Ethereum is also implementing privacy features, like zkSnarks from ZCash.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Bitcoincole on March 02, 2018, 01:36:08 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

Hi,
thanks for letting us know about Ethereum Meta.
However, I'm not sure if it will be succesfull in the future, as Ethereum is also implementing privacy features, like zkSnarks from ZCash.


Well, base on the privacy of coin list which i think it would definately be the best in 2018 is XMR (Monero) because many investors from US is currently connected on this coin. If you noticed many coins have dumping but this coin is maintaining it's popularity together with his value even though it was purely correction is on going how much more if bitcoin will definately strike up it would going to the moon.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: btctestcolets on March 02, 2018, 01:58:15 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

Hi,
thanks for letting us know about Ethereum Meta.
However, I'm not sure if it will be succesfull in the future, as Ethereum is also implementing privacy features, like zkSnarks from ZCash.


Well, base on the privacy of coin list which i think it would definately be the best in 2018 is XMR (Monero) because many investors from US is currently connected on this coin. If you noticed many coins have dumping but this coin is maintaining it's popularity together with his value even though it was purely correction is on going how much more if bitcoin will definately strike up it would going to the moon.



Yes, i agree to you mate for me i prefer to Monero also due to its amazing price in the market today. That's why i invest half of my salary because i believe in this coin.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ThachSanhTp on March 02, 2018, 02:10:46 AM
I found some where a thread that has a compared table top best Privacy coins (XMR, DASH, ZEC, PIVX, XVG). In conclusion, XMR is the best of the best!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: tmoney88 on March 02, 2018, 02:11:06 AM
i like verge the most from dogecoindark to verge and still active until now what good on it is you can choose if you want to make private transaction

I hope no one listens to your shit comments and recommendations. Both those cryptocoins are below average with development teams that only have full stack engineers at best, with no real cryptographers, mathematicians, and true computer scientists.

Only Monero has the best development team after bitcoin's developers.

What a terrible and biased reply. How would you expect somebody to take you seriously by saying they made "shit comments and recomendations." You are obviously biased, don't know how to have a conservation, and might as well not say anything. Learn to have a conversation before you want people to take you seriously.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on March 03, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

Hi,
thanks for letting us know about Ethereum Meta.
However, I'm not sure if it will be succesfull in the future, as Ethereum is also implementing privacy features, like zkSnarks from ZCash.


Well, base on the privacy of coin list which i think it would definately be the best in 2018 is XMR (Monero) because many investors from US is currently connected on this coin. If you noticed many coins have dumping but this coin is maintaining it's popularity together with his value even though it was purely correction is on going how much more if bitcoin will definately strike up it would going to the moon.



Yes, i agree to you mate for me i prefer to Monero also due to its amazing price in the market today. That's why i invest half of my salary because i believe in this coin.



Monero price is rising quickly today - I think it is because the hard fork is coming. So this might be the best coin for the next 2 weeks - until the hard fork.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: SergiOLa on March 05, 2018, 05:41:39 PM
Best privacy coin isnt listed here,ive spent a lot of times of researching which coins are worthy investment but i didnt see XSPeC here it is the most updated and advanced privacy coin that will surely give you a 100% anonimity in your transactions,my boy! you need to do a lot of research and do not trust what other's people suggestions know it by yourself.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 06, 2018, 04:04:21 AM
I also researched about these currencies, I like what Verge and Monero offer, DeepOnion because it has a great development and integrations like obfs4 and Meek operating from the tor network, which make it impossible to track up, of course Monero is not in the phase of project, maybe that's why the price, this is the moment when it is good to invest in onions because they are cheap.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: cryptonized on March 06, 2018, 06:36:26 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: dragonvslinux on March 06, 2018, 07:17:33 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

I hear what you're saying about low market cap, I don't think this just applies to privacy coins either, it's also how you make 10 or 100x off fresh to market tokens. Regarding small cap privacy coins though, there are definitely a handful of these exciting options still to explore. The tor-integrated DeepOnion being the obvious choice at under $40m as well as the enigma-enabled CloakCoin. I Still remember when ZenCash, ZClassic and ZCoin were part of the under $100m club before all the X's. Those were the days.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: remiby on March 06, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
Hi,
Nice list. If I had some merit, I'd give it to you.
I prefer ZenCash. However Monero is a nice short-term investment, as the hard for is close. So the next days should see Monero price rising quite a lot.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: RonaldDuncan on March 06, 2018, 10:03:29 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).


THE TOP DOG HERE IS Monero


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: borpolev on March 06, 2018, 11:14:55 PM
Monero and ZCash are the best ones, I also like Verge. From the coins with the low marketcap, I believe that Spectrecoin is the best 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: GambleTime on March 07, 2018, 02:31:00 PM

Monero, Dash, Verge and Electroneum Market caps...already high for a new bull run. I won't invest here, unless you invest HUGE.

ZCash and Zcash...nice..but old technologies when compared to other privacy coins.

Pivx, Nav nice projects, I like both

SumoKoin is a interesting poject fork from Monero. Great privacy, strong security and true fungibility (act like a digital cash).

DeepOnion and Spectre both tor based nice project

My Pick for 2018 is DeepOnion
#1 TOR based anonymous cryptocurrency with future DeepSend technology implementation
#2 Vote Central. Community has full inclusion in all decisions.
#3 Low total supply..it means HIGH growth potential.
#4 Best Community and marketing team
#5 Strong obfuscation OBFS4 with MEEK and Stealth addresses
#6 Great White Paper depicts the Bright Future of Onion


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: stepwilli on March 08, 2018, 08:21:35 AM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).

According to me monero is the best privacy coin in all of the coins that you have mentioned above. Its impossible to trace down transaction that has been done through monero blockchain and no one will ever know who sent the payment to whom and for what purpose. Monero is the best decentralized platform just next to bitcoin. I has high privacy and security and the senders and receivers information can never be know.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: 05w3z0 on March 08, 2018, 06:30:12 PM
Well, guys, i've done little research and made a comparison chart of most common currencies from which we can clearly see that DeepOnion has many advantages over others.
https://image.ibb.co/fkzjSn/comparison_chart.jpg


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: drakegon on March 08, 2018, 06:42:20 PM
Guys, Privacy is the best thing about Crypto and Blockchain. But, isn't this the reasons why Governments are not liking this new tech?
After all privacy and decentralization is what make them lose control. Where is this going to go?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: KalaiBTC on March 09, 2018, 06:00:10 AM
I will choose monero, of course, not to say that other anonymous coins are not good, like dash and zcash are also very good anonymous coins, but I prefer Monroe only.
A friend of mine has been casting a Monroe for a long time
Yes indeed, dash and zcash are also quite anonymous and decentralized coins. The privacy and security provided by dash, zcash and xvg are quite good but less if they are compared with the privacy coin monero. Currently investing in monero isn’t wise as the coin has moved up cause of the upcoming fork and I believe it will be soon in a dip and that will be great time to get in, but zcash and dash are quite undervalued currently due to market crash. If one needs to invest in privacy coins he can get into zcash,dash and xvg currently. Monero is worth investing but not until we are done with its fork.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: unisilver on March 09, 2018, 06:21:53 AM
Well, guys, i've done little research and made a comparison chart of most common currencies from which we can clearly see that DeepOnion has many advantages over others.
https://image.ibb.co/fkzjSn/comparison_chart.jpg

As what you have said mate that you do some research in each coin then basically base on your research you concluded that deepcoin has the higher capacity as the best coin than others. but, what is your basis?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: offthecuff on March 09, 2018, 03:31:24 PM
Whilst Monero is king of the privacy coins at the moment I think over the next year or two other coins will start to challenge.

I hold a few of the coins on the list, Monero, Zcash DeepOnion and Dash. I do think that privacy coins as a whole will have a very strong year but if I could only invest in one it would be DeepOnion. The way it integrates the TorNetwork and the recent update to the wallet to add the obsf4 feature give it the edge.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: CryptoVokain on March 10, 2018, 10:12:26 AM
Very good list, and I would only expect the list to expand even further, privacy coins will be huge going forward for obvious reasons. Nobody likes to have someones else nose in their stuff.

One of the important features will be the ability to use these coins everywhere, even where the government does not want people to use is (basically where they want to control you)

DeepOnion has great features like OBFS4, Meek, and is on TOR network allowing it to run in countries like China, Iran, and anywhere else.

Keep You Privacy! You deserve it!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: 99th on March 10, 2018, 10:20:46 AM
Dash has such a small supply it is a very good investment not just a great coin for payments. I personally don't use it, but I feel like monero has the strongest following and community behind it. I am going to be investing in both Dash and XMR within the next month since it looks like both are going to be very important in the future due to incoming regulations in the space.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Globee07 on March 10, 2018, 10:35:59 AM
Currently Monero is King in privacy coins (not necessarily because it has the most advanced technology, but still) it is a safe bet.
Dash has a good use case and a good PR especially now with the Venezuela situation.
DeepOnion has a huge potential to grow in 2018. (key features have been mentioned several times already)

I would go for either of these three, depends if you are looking for bigger potential or the safest possible investment.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: BlockchainCoder on March 10, 2018, 12:38:21 PM
Currently Monero is King in privacy coins (not necessarily because it has the most advanced technology, but still) it is a safe bet.
Dash has a good use case and a good PR especially now with the Venezuela situation.
DeepOnion has a huge potential to grow in 2018. (key features have been mentioned several times already)

I would go for either of these three, depends if you are looking for bigger potential or the safest possible investment.
Deeponion is moving faster now, after integrated with newest TOR and added obfs4 feature, dev team start to release the new Deepprotocol(with stealth address). It will catch up and price pumping later.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aci69 on March 14, 2018, 07:59:06 PM
In my particular case, I'm very concerned about privacy (that is mainly why I use Linux  :P), I have invested in the following two projects. ZenCash and DeepOnion.

Both of them are quite young and both of them can hide you IP and (Deeponion is a sort future) are able to make untraceable transactions. I think that if somebody want a privacy coin, these two facts (anonymity and untraceable transactions) are the main pillars.

I totally agree with you also because I did the same! :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Sanderion on March 14, 2018, 08:09:50 PM
Very good list, and I would only expect the list to expand even further, privacy coins will be huge going forward for obvious reasons. Nobody likes to have someones else nose in their stuff.

One of the important features will be the ability to use these coins everywhere, even where the government does not want people to use is (basically where they want to control you)

DeepOnion has great features like OBFS4, Meek, and is on TOR network allowing it to run in countries like China, Iran, and anywhere else.

Keep You Privacy! You deserve it!

I like Monero technologies most of all! But In the near future, private coins may have difficulties due to upcoming government regulations of cryptocurrencies. I don't think it will be easy to avoid them :-\


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: trash321 on March 14, 2018, 08:12:48 PM
Very cognizantly painted, thank you very much for such a wonderful opportunity. I think that we will have a wonderful opportunity to choose the most anonymous project. I think that there really is such a need. Because soon complete verification of the community begins.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: cryptonized on March 14, 2018, 08:24:41 PM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on ICO stage right now and already on the exchanges, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on March 23, 2018, 10:07:01 PM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on ICO stage right now and already on the exchanges, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0

Hi, not sure if Ethereum Meta is needed, as Ethereum itself is implementing privacy features - zkSnarks from ZCash


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: mrelich on March 23, 2018, 10:10:09 PM
In my particular case, I'm very concerned about privacy (that is mainly why I use Linux  :P), I have invested in the following two projects. ZenCash and DeepOnion.

Both of them are quite young and both of them can hide you IP and (Deeponion is a sort future) are able to make untraceable transactions. I think that if somebody want a privacy coin, these two facts (anonymity and untraceable transactions) are the main pillars.

I totally agree with you also because I did the same! :)

Hi guys,
ZenCash is my favourite as well.  DeepOnion is also an interesting project, but I don't like their huge airdrops.
Best regards


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Trimzi on March 23, 2018, 10:23:25 PM
Monero is good, but maybe still needs to improve.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-research

Deeponion is my second coin even others have fairly good technology too. Their development is going really good at the moment, lots of things going there. They will have smart contracts too.
https://deeponion.org/


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: kissmarx on March 29, 2018, 12:55:02 PM
My first choice is DeepOnion. My second choice is ZCash. Third is Monero.

Why DeepOnion is my first choice? It is because it is the best, technology-wise. It uses the latest TOR version, and it has features such as OBFS4 and MEEK. It also has DeepVault feature. Now it just released the Stealth Addresses. DeepSend is upcoming. And more are in development. Take a look at its whitepaper here https://goo.gl/ptEbcz or https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: CheatingCoins on March 30, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
I'll go in order of appearance as I see them fit to the ones that are worth mentioning IMO.

Monero => I don't think so.
Dash => Decent.
Verge = With latest shill (again)... I don't think so.
ZenCash => Yes very good project.
Nav Coin => Looks like a completely fun sometimes, but we do have even a Doge coin, right?
DeepOnion => Yes very good project.
Sumocoin => Very interesting project, still learning about it.

May I ask why Shield coin is not on the list?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: chaserdream11 on March 30, 2018, 02:05:20 PM
In my particular case, I'm very concerned about privacy (that is mainly why I use Linux  :P), I have invested in the following two projects. ZenCash and DeepOnion.

Both of them are quite young and both of them can hide you IP and (Deeponion is a sort future) are able to make untraceable transactions. I think that if somebody want a privacy coin, these two facts (anonymity and untraceable transactions) are the main pillars.

I totally agree with you also because I did the same! :)

Hi guys,
ZenCash is my favourite as well.  DeepOnion is also an interesting project, but I don't like their huge airdrops.
Best regards

Don't you think with the kind of technology DeepOnion has, it could have made tons of money just be having an ICO ?
But they choose to go with airdrops so that everyone who participated initially have equal chance. 

With upcoming DeepProtocal block and DeepSend release, it would be untraceable (Par with XMR)
Probably the most undervalued coin at the moment.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Gardar on March 30, 2018, 03:38:54 PM

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.


Thanks for adding DeepOnion. Last week Android Wallet and new Computer Wallet update (Supporting Stealth Addresses) were released. In next weeks we will have Vote Central too  ;D


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aghilesdza on March 31, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
DeepOnion is one of the amazing and most promising projects, Before it's creations, the Leaders and Devs studied others big coins flaws, what they lacked to be more secure, anonymous and perfect, Then they created a magical project Named DeepOnion, Since it's creation in middle 2017, The DeepOnion Project achieved goal after goal! And won't stop until it reaches the Top, You can also read DeepOnion Whitepaper, it explains and shows every detail you need to know. Here is the link : https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf (https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: eiijee160613 on April 02, 2018, 01:59:19 AM
Well, guys, i've done little research and made a comparison chart of most common currencies from which we can clearly see that DeepOnion has many advantages over others.
https://image.ibb.co/fkzjSn/comparison_chart.jpg
Oh! That's a helpful chart . As i've seen, privacy coin are given with good security features but for anonymty, i guess some are not enough and i think that matter advantages DeepOnion from others! Thanks man!

I just noticed no cloakcoin on the list of privacy coin choices on topic?  ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: napman on April 02, 2018, 02:54:51 AM
In my opinion, it is better to make your own research and trust your guts.

The most of the privacy coins are undervalued right now.

The best opportunity is to find a privacy-related project with a low total supply (less than 100M), that way the price will be increasing much faster.

I recently found one project called Ethereum Meta, it is related to anonymity and untraceable transaction. They have a very interesting project to build the Anonymous E-Market Place.

They are on Pre-ICO stage right now, you can check their website: https://ethermeta.com/
Or even better go through their Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659058.0


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ra213 on April 02, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
Could you please add shield to the list? They have planned a quantum proof and masternode supported privacy coin.
https://www.shieldx.sh/

It's a hard choice to decide from your list. I hold a few privacy coins (shield, verge, sumo), but my favorite is DeepOnion. All connections are made through the tor network (obfs4 supported), they recently released stealth addresses and DeepSend is under development. The technology is solid, but they differ in one important point. They try to create use cases and to achieve mass adoption for their currency and this is the only way how a coin can prevail on the market. Not everything is about speculation.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: freddanso2 on April 02, 2018, 07:09:13 AM
Lets not forget that wanchain also have privacy coin features . with its ring signature option .


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: freddanso2 on April 02, 2018, 07:15:18 AM
I think Deeponion is my fav out of all the privacy coins due to its deep vault features


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Dragonrage201 on April 02, 2018, 07:19:04 AM
There are many more coins and their forks  with privacy features. Many forks of top privacy coins  Monero and Zcash need to be checked too. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: paoad on April 02, 2018, 09:20:00 AM
Privacy coins are the future in crypto, they have a real use-case and some of the are really promising projects. Personally I hodl a bag of Monero, but my biggest bag is on DeepOnion, which has an enormous potential and it's still under the radar of most. It combines the best features of other popular privacy projects like Zcash (Zero knowledge), Monero (Rings signatures) and Dash (Coinjoin technologies) and it's natively tor integrated. It's extremely undervalued for the moment given that we are only 3 weeks before the end of the airdrops and one of the most expected feature of the whitepaper (https://deeponion.org/White-Paper.pdf), the VoteCentral is also coming soon.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Be light on April 02, 2018, 12:58:47 PM
Good topic. I personally also bet on the privacy coins, in my opinion, doesn' matter how to future market would regulate, privacy always matters.
If I need to choose one privacy coin from this list. For now and future development I pick DeepOnion. Really fast, secure project, which I have tested on my own.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: xaviervilla on April 02, 2018, 04:06:53 PM
Wow, I never really thought that there really are pretty much a huge number of privacy coins out there. The only thing I really knew about was monero and nothing more. Had I not seen this post I would have remained blind to all the choices I could have made. Thanks for posting this man, this really is such a big help for a lot of newbies and even people like me that do not have that much time to look for the best coins out there. I really need to read more about all these coins mentioned since I really need to use these type of coins.




EDIT : Thanks for the comparison 05w3z0, really saved me a lot of time.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: China8888 on April 02, 2018, 10:51:57 PM

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.


Thanks for adding DeepOnion. Last week Android Wallet and new Computer Wallet update (Supporting Stealth Addresses) were released. In next weeks we will have Vote Central too  ;D

Interesting thread. Privacy coins have a great future in crypto. I have some Monero and made good money off them back in 2017. DeepOnion is a much younger project and much fewer coins at only 25 million total supply. Check out the whitepaper and see how Tor, Meek and OBFS4 integration enable people to still use this coin in certain countries with internet censorship.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: last7minutes on April 04, 2018, 08:15:53 PM
Well, guys, i've done little research and made a comparison chart of most common currencies from which we can clearly see that DeepOnion has many advantages over others.
https://image.ibb.co/fkzjSn/comparison_chart.jpg
Oh! That's a helpful chart . As i've seen, privacy coin are given with good security features but for anonymty, i guess some are not enough and i think that matter advantages DeepOnion from others! Thanks man!

I just noticed no cloakcoin on the list of privacy coin choices on topic?  ;)

I suppose it would be better if everybody can save this table. It is a real help. I have heard that some people were not satisfied with the privacy and safety of Monero. I like this coin, although transactions are not so fast.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: 05w3z0 on April 04, 2018, 09:13:37 PM
people pick coins on a personal preference and previous experience, to be honest, I've been involved only in onions and xvg and so far I can tell that deeponion has many advantages and everything is just ... better, for the rest there is comparison chart and numbers talk for themselves.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ra213 on April 10, 2018, 09:22:09 AM
people pick coins on a personal preference and previous experience, to be honest, I've been involved only in onions and xvg and so far I can tell that deeponion has many advantages and everything is just ... better, for the rest there is comparison chart and numbers talk for themselves.

Personal preference, marketing, communication are all important factors. I also think that the technology is not the major decision point.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: uzitgc on April 10, 2018, 09:31:13 AM
Best privacy coin is not listed here, i have spent a lot of times of researching which coins r worthy investment but i didnt see XSPEC here it is the most updated and advanced privacy coin that will surely give u a full anonimity in ur transactions. U need to do a lot of research and don`t trust what other's people suggestions know it by yourself.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: tonylewisverdu on April 12, 2018, 01:06:34 PM
good list and descriptions. thanks for this


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: bjmpoker001 on April 12, 2018, 01:44:34 PM

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.


I prefer Monero (XMR) to be my privacy altcoin. Monero already used by many peoples.
Monero is the most popular altcoin that have a cryptonight algorithm to mine.
You can mine it using your CPU.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Nastinmel on April 13, 2018, 08:17:27 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).


Many people on btctalk talking about different projects of XMR zcash, and you heard about coin Karbowanec? It says that it's good


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: euggio on April 14, 2018, 08:00:56 AM
In my mind each of these altcoins deserves to have this attention in long-term investments, also privacy coins become more popular with that time         


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: rost1989 on April 14, 2018, 08:07:33 AM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).


I think that you could also add Wancoin to the list. They implemented a possibility to send and receive private transactions.
I just don't get the idea of all privacy coins. Of course privacy is important but I think privacy will  become a feature of every coin soon.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Melnikof on April 14, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).


I mostly like coins that are Zencash and deeponion, for that they both based on some of DAO consensus, I like them


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: tonylewisverdu on April 15, 2018, 03:17:41 AM
It's no surprise the first 3 listed here. but i would place them
Monero, Zcash, and Dash

Go Green!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Opnsrc on April 18, 2018, 10:46:53 AM
ZCash is definitely the best private coin. There are many reviews about it. I don’t need any private coins for myself but know somewhat about it because my best friend is obsessed about the question of privacy.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: 05w3z0 on April 19, 2018, 05:17:56 PM
ZCash is definitely the best private coin. There are many reviews about it. I don’t need any private coins for myself but know somewhat about it because my best friend is obsessed about the question of privacy.
If he is obsessed with privacy then you should definitely introduce DeepOnion to him ;)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: goodasj9z9888 on April 23, 2018, 08:15:59 AM
I'm waiting for a coin! Smiley THANKS to the developers of the project!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Bytem3 on April 23, 2018, 08:18:07 AM
I think NAV coin (https://coincodex.com/crypto/nav-coin/) has still a lot of undiscovered potential.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: XSNsoldier6 on May 04, 2018, 03:04:27 AM
XSN, Stakenet hands down.

This is an incredibly promising, unique, and most importantly, well funded privacy based system.  XSN's unique smart contract arhitecture allows one to cold stake in a completely trustless manner.  Check out my blog that I maintain on behalf of the community, the XSN Army.
MEDIUM
i) https://medium.com/@Murkymerkleroot/introduction-to-stakenet-xsn-2c51f751a2bd
ii) https://medium.com/@Murkymerkleroot/xsn-army-blog-post-2-c8ca955e7354



Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: lengocanh2998 on May 05, 2018, 02:26:07 AM
Very cognizantly painted, thank you very much for such a wonderful opportunity. I think that we will have a wonderful opportunity to choose the most anonymous project. I think that there really is such a need. Because soon complete verification of the community begins.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: leynylaine on May 05, 2018, 05:39:58 AM
DeepOnion's ICO is successful, also they contributed a profitable airdrop for the community who joined their cause. I think Dash and Monero will be useful too. However, these coins listed have many positive reviews so they are all good though.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Sithara007 on May 05, 2018, 06:15:54 AM
Monero used to be one of my favorite coins out there, followed by Verge. But XMR is not showing much traction lately, which forced me to look for other alternatives. I have found both Deep Onion and Electroneum to be interesting.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Basketball5 on May 05, 2018, 06:32:48 AM
In my opinion, Monero will be one of the most anonymous coins of the next generation, I was all clear in that article, so I'll probably also think that Monero is really a very cool anonymous coin.

Pivx and deeponion are also good choices as well.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Solidzeden on May 26, 2018, 07:46:38 PM
http://stealthpay.com/

Getting more and more familiar with stealth xst.
Probably the best most undervalued privacy coin on coinmarketcap.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: vaughn125 on May 27, 2018, 06:54:36 PM
Dear Crypto community,

Because the privacy of transactions is, in my view, one of the most important features that cryptocurrency should have - no one wants Big Brother to look at where, how much, and why you use your money - I tried to make an overview of private coins and their main features. I wonder which privacy coin you see as the best one ?
Also, if I missed any good privacy coin, please write about it in this thread.

ZCash
Zcash uses a new method of cryptographic privacy called “zk-SNARKs”. At the basic level, zero-knowledge proofs allow for a way to prove that the information you are sending to the other party (e.g. the amount of funds) is true, without having to broadcast said information besides the fact that it is true. However, Zcash is not “private by default” particularly due to the inefficiency of zk-SNARKs. Zcash offers the choice of optional privacy - “shielding” is not on by default.

Monero
Monero uses Ring Confidential Transactions to improve privacy and security. By bundling the sending and receiving of public keys with older network transactions, a “mixer” is created that is capable of obfuscating addresses. On top of Ring Confidential Transactions, Monero makes use of ring signatures and Stealth addresses to hide both the sender and the receiver in a transaction.

Dash
Dash is not cryptographically private. Dash promises privacy through mixing, utilizing a modified version of CoinJoin – a method initially created to “anonymize” Bitcoins. Dash functions similar to Bitcoin, in that the blockchain is transparent by default while offering optional privacy by way of mixing. However, the mixing is being done by masternodes and there is nothing preventing these masternodes from logging the user’s output destinations, and there is no way to audit whether or not a masternode is logging anything at all.

Verge
Verge is not cryptographically private. Verge only offers “privacy” by way of Tor and I2P routing, to obfuscate traffic and conceal a user’s IP address when transacting. There are no cryptographic privacy features with regards to the blockchain, the linkability and traceability of transactions and addresses, nor the concealment of the amounts being transacted.

ZenCash
ZenCash uses zk-SNARKS (Private transactions with hidden sender/receiver information) like ZCash, however it has got more privacy features like Domain Fronting (Hides internet connection endpoints to prevent censorship}, IPFS (Publish or access data anonymously via a distributed system) and Secure Nodes. Unlike ZCash, it utilizes DAO-style governance model.

PivX
Pivx uses Zerocoin protocol - Zerocoin transactions (using so-called zPIV coins) exist alongside the PivX currency. The first step is converting PivX into anonymouns zPiv coins. Users then send zPiv to other users (splitting or merging is used along the way). Receiving users then convert zPiv back into PivX. PIVX is also working on implementing with the Invisible Internet Project (I2P), so that the IP address of every PIVX node will be hidden from its peers by defaut.

NAV Coin
NAV Coin is actually two blockchains, the main Nav Coin blockchain and another called the Subchain. When a user wants to send an anonymous transaction, they send the amount of Nav Coin and the recipient’s address to a NavTech incoming processing server. The NavTech processing server creates a transaction of random size on the Subchain and sends the transaction, and the encrypted address of the recipient, to a randomly selected outgoing server. The outgoing server decrypts the recipients address and sends Navcoin, from a pre-filled pool, on to the correct recipient.

And which one is the best for me? ZenCash
Let me know your opinions..

Added on the recommendation of the community:

DeepOnion
DeepOnion is natively integrated with the TOR network and ALL connections are made over the TOR network. Recently, it also supports Obfs4 (protocol on top of the tor network, allows access to tor in the regions that tor is not allowed or banned). Nice DeepVault feature - allows adding file validation credentials(hashes) to the blockchain, can be used to verify a file integrity. More privacy features coming. Good marketing.

SpectreCoin
SpectreCoin is integrated natively in TOR network and it supports masking TOR traffic mechanism (OBFS4). Additional privacy features are zero-knowledge proofs, ring signatures and stealth addresses (they are currently optional but will be made default in Q2 2018). Another nice feature will come in Q2 2018 - staking on Stealth Addresses.

Intense Coin
Intense Coin is a low market cap privacy coin also used as a utility coin for VPN services - a new approach to VPNs whereby peers can offer their own internet connections as encrypted tunnels for interested parties. VPN providers will receive Intense Coin (ITNS) in exchange for their services. Ring signatures are used to ensure privacy - the same technology is used by Monero (XMR). Uses CryptoNight proof-of-work mining algorithm - CPU mineable.

Sumokoin
Sumokoin is a low market cap coin - slightly improved Monero fork (ring Confidential Transactions (RingCT) with minimum ringsize (mixin) of 12). Developers do their job, people talk about it. Aims to be used easily by normal users - they've got easy miner and intuitive GUI wallets.

Electroneum
Electroneum is a Monero fork from autumn 2017. It doesn't have any improvements over Monero regarding privacy, and I haven't found any plans to implement new and planned Monero features since the fork in their roadmap. The Electroneum team seem to be good in marketing and they also concentrate on user-friendly interface. They made a "mobile miner", however the app is just a marketing trick and does not perform real mining – it's only a simulation of mining (distributing premined coins).



As what I have observed, all of the coins listed in this post are all good coins and have good features and are all worth investing on. But for me, I will still prefer MONERO. Not just because of what things MONERO can offer but also because it is a bit more popular than that of the others. Plus, it really has grown on me which is why I am a bit loyal to it..


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: neocryptrix on June 21, 2018, 03:53:02 PM
There is a new buck in the herd coming up strong. PRiVCY is a fork of DeepOnion. Works exactly the same. POW/POS. Currently in the early rounds of airdrops. Jump on board, follow the rules through the discord channel and hodl your free coins. If it follows in DO's footsteps, the next bull run should make this coin a profitable investment.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: anjohyx on June 21, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
A lot of member recommend deeponion, I don't know it's really best privacy cryptocurrency or just because they earn a lot of deeponion from airdrop? My suggestion is Monero, but price is still high right now, even whole market price dip, Monero price still more than $120, high chance rise like rocket when next bull market  :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ofounz98712 on June 22, 2018, 09:02:49 AM
Base on what I read and I saw, the coins that really captivatid my attention is both the navcoin and moreno because you can actually observe that the transaction are both secured and thats the best thing that the coin should have.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: berezov_petro on June 22, 2018, 09:24:36 AM
It's no surprise the first 3 listed here. but i would place them
Monero, Zcash, and Dash

Go Green!
I also like it Monero and Zcash. These are really good confidential coins used by many people. These coins have great prospects in the future and they will grow!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: aitorp6 on June 25, 2018, 10:23:57 AM
All of those coins have great features and I think that in a not so far future they will very useful. 


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: bajindul88 on June 25, 2018, 10:59:40 AM
If judged professionally it's very difficult because all coins have their advantages. anyone using Tor, Zerocoin Protocol, I2P, etc. but in reality if we reap a lot of income and profits on the coin is certainly self-taught we will choose a coin that makes us a big profit. is it all right?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: caugiay074 on June 26, 2018, 02:51:03 AM
I want to invest in a privacy coin but I am not able to decide which is good one .Some people say verge is good but when the mcafee shillings started and the coin dumped I am no longer sure. Does it technically have what it takes to be a good privacy coin like monero in future ? How good is the team?


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: kissmarx on June 26, 2018, 01:49:50 PM
I want to invest in a privacy coin but I am not able to decide which is good one .Some people say verge is good but when the mcafee shillings started and the coin dumped I am no longer sure. Does it technically have what it takes to be a good privacy coin like monero in future ? How good is the team?

I recommend you PRiVCY coin. You can buy PRiVCY in https://crex24.com/exchange/PRIV-BTC . For more info, check out the ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4503790.0 .

My 2nd recommendation is DeepOnion. More information and links to exchanges can be found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2683530.0 .


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: ronnylov on August 16, 2018, 10:23:14 AM
Take a look at Lethean.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4902692.0

It is intensecoin doing rebranding and now they are starting to release their private network so this going to be huge!
Much more serious Project than any other coin I know.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Cwyaalim on August 19, 2018, 05:49:25 AM
I additionally looked into about these monetary standards, I like what Verge and Monero offer, DeepOnion since it has an incredible advancement and incorporations like obfs4 and Meek working from the tor organize, which make it difficult to track up, obviously Monero isn't in the period of task, possibly that is the reason the value, this is the minute when it regards put resources into onions since they are shabby.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: doedz on August 21, 2018, 03:22:18 AM
Zcash
Verge
Monero

The three coins are great to choose because all three have high market value.
But unfortunately DEEP ONION said many people in this forum if DEEP ONION was a SCAM, I don't know!


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Alexmasterbtc on August 21, 2018, 07:06:34 AM
It's Monero.Monero is anonymous bitcoin.This site has become popular with the black market: sellers of drugs and weapons. However, the implementation on the basis of Monero expects that you trust the owner of the mixing service — and that he will not give you to the police.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: maunbot on August 21, 2018, 07:47:07 AM
I think Monero is the best coin privacy, and Monero is the leader. Monero has good profits as a privacy coin and is very promising. and I think monero is unique in transacting.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: kissmarx on October 16, 2018, 03:54:27 PM
Right now, this truly belong to Komodo $KMD and its coins/tokens under its platform or forks under its ecosystem. Check out PirateChain $ARRR and Verus Coin $VRSC and KMD ANNs and you will find out why they are the best privacy coins right now.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: tixl.me on May 16, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
I really like the Zcash privacy concept. It's promising and has an even better privacy approach than Monero. But also Monero already has a good approach to enable privacy. I particularly like the stealth addresses. But both still have some problems with speed and scalability.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 16, 2019, 04:03:13 PM
I use Zcash now, on past i used Monero, maybe there are another who can still be used but i regulary use only this two, i also like stealth address and the way they work.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: seb0zz on May 17, 2019, 09:05:06 PM
Just wanted to add Tixl to the list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143557.0

It's a new cryptocurrency that allows private, instant and zero-fee transactions at the same time. We are putting as much work as possible into it at the moment. Of course, we appreciate any feedback we can get from the community :)


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: KryptoKai on May 17, 2019, 09:38:44 PM
The worst is zcash as it does not offer privacy by default. For using as a privacy coin monero is the best as it is tried and tested. However, as an investment deeponion is going cheap and has more potential to rise in future


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: btccrusher on May 17, 2019, 10:10:30 PM
I like Monero for its complete untraceable transaction. Both sender and receiver staying hidden. Also, recently noticed a new coin name - VEIL. It's focusing pure privacy. This newcomer has some serious aim to develop. It's a hybrid Proof-of-Work and Proof-of-Stake coin. Take a look at https://veil-project.com/


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: kissmarx on July 15, 2019, 01:45:32 PM
The best one right now is Pirate Chain (ARRR); and everything else under the Komodo (KMD) system.

Just research them to better understand.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Febo on July 15, 2019, 02:47:57 PM
The worst is zcash as it does not offer privacy by default.

There are many coins that call himself opaque ledger cryptocurencies and does not offer privacy as a default. So those few transactions stick out and are easy prey of block chain analysis. But ZCash have bigger problems. One is that it need trusted setup. So we need to truest those few people that launched it and we cant audit they did it fair. They can have hidden stash of coins and we will never knew that and be able to prove it. Also behind ZCash is a private company. It is not like Bitcoin or Monero a community run project.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: Febo on July 18, 2019, 03:27:54 PM
Personally Monero remains my favorite privacy coin because of the Ring CT feature.  I understand there are newer privacy coins with claims of more advanced features like dual consensus algorithm(both POW and POS), zerocoin technology etc,  but the main reason for creating privacy coins is anonymity and that's what Monero upholds.

Monero have strong research lab. Whatever technology that will come and will be more private or same private but more efficient, Monero will grab it, code it and hire an audit firm for possible bugs and then implement it at next protocol upgrade.  This is how Monero works past 5 years and is perfect way. It makes Monero the best and bugs free.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: BeginToMine on July 18, 2019, 04:55:45 PM
You didn't mention one of my most favourite Privacy Coins.. Veil.
I discovered this Privacy coin some months back and I have been following it's progress since then, Veil uses a combination of Zero coins and many other innovations, you might wanna check it out.


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: darylalban on July 18, 2019, 05:49:46 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Elixxir yet? I want to know if they have a coin in the works with their privacy platform


Title: Re: Privacy coins list - which one is the best ??
Post by: chocopapaya on July 18, 2019, 05:51:43 PM
This is an older thread, but it would be great to update it.
Privacy coins were all the rage late 2017/early 2018, right in the middle ofthe bull run.
They've died down in popularity but their relevance is still there.
As bitcoin becomes more popular and regulations set in, people will look for more alternative ways to do private transactions.
So the use for these privacy coins is something that will only grow.
For me personally, I believe Monero is the king and monero is all you need.
It is one of the oldest, time tested, thoroughly private coins.
Also, it has the biggest advantage of being the most widely used and requested coin in private transactions.