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Title: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 11, 2013, 05:28:48 PM
This is what Texas looked like when it was first formed out of a Mexican territory known as "Tejas".
http://www.drtinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Texas1836map.jpg

Stephen F. Austin was given a permit by the Mexican government (as well as a cannon to defend from Indians) to bring 300 families from America, to the Tejas region of Mexico, because no Mexicans really lived there and the government wanted people settling the land.

Then the 300 families started getting to big (siblings and cousins and grandparents, etc all coming) and Mexico asked for the cannon back. That is when the first ever "Texas State Flag" was made.

http://11thscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It.png

Then this led to a war, which led to the famous "Battle of the Alamo", which gave Texans the spirit of force they needed to win the war in a 15 minute battle that sent the Mexican army over the Rio Grande.

I think Texas is the spirit of rebellion that this nation needs, so I am going to go to the old territories from the Republic of Texas (New Mexico, Colorado, etc) and start making my own "Texas Silver" to buy things on Craigslist (Like how Certain Kingdoms, and the Nazis had their own gold prints) First it will just look like this with maybe a few PERSONALLY hammered in stamps:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21glEltKwSL.jpg

Then eventually I hope to be able to buy something more intricate, and do something (not at all exactly) like this, but something way cooler:
https://www.texmetals.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/295x295/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/e/texas-silver-round-obverse-3d-negative_2.png

Would anyone else be interested? I found a website that sells silver by weight for Bitcoins.
This will definitely be a few months before it starts, but I DEFINITELY plan on doing it, even if just to have a small store of silver for an economic collapse.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 11, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
Any Texans on this website?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: greyhawk on September 11, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
Any Texans on this website?

I think there's a Trendon Shavers or something from Texas here? You might wanna look for him. I hear he's in sore need of easily concealable ways to store his funds.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 11, 2013, 09:17:44 PM
Does anyone know where to get bars or loose silver for bitcoins?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: b!z on September 12, 2013, 01:05:48 PM
Thank you for the useful information regarding the history of Texas.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 02:02:08 PM
Thank you for the useful information regarding the history of Texas.

No problem, sometime in the next few months I will be writing an extensive history of Texas, as well as multiple legal guides for the modern day in Texas.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 12, 2013, 03:17:20 PM
Thank you for the useful information regarding the history of Texas.

No problem, sometime in the next few months I will be writing an extensive history of Texas, as well as multiple legal guides for the modern day in Texas.

Legal... guides?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 03:38:05 PM
Thank you for the useful information regarding the history of Texas.

No problem, sometime in the next few months I will be writing an extensive history of Texas, as well as multiple legal guides for the modern day in Texas.

Legal... guides?

1 Guide Explaining how our laws were shaped, and what they were meant for.
1 Guide Explaining the Criminal Statutes and Regulations, so people know what to say when the police are doing something wrong.
1 Guide Explaining traffic law, so you know what to do when you get stopped, and you know what the police take for granted (meaning they'll fuck you so they can make money, just because you aren't educated about the law)
1 Guide about court procedure and some celebrated cases.

And maybe one to put it all together, so when you see a cop in Texas, you can just hold it up as he walks up, and he'll know not to fuck around.

Ex: The police broke into my house with no warrant, they asked my friend "Are you a lawyer" he said "No" they put cuffs on him.
Now, when the cops ask someone "Are you a lawyer?" You just have to make sure you know the law like one :)


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: ProfMac on September 12, 2013, 03:43:47 PM
Any Texans on this website?

I am.  My family has been in Texas since 1874.
I can't really encourage you to go down this path.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 03:44:35 PM
Any Texans on this website?

I am.  My family has been in Texas since 1874.
I can't really encourage you to go down this path.


Making silver that prides Texas? Why?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 03:56:53 PM
I'm basically the opposite of a racist, so if that is the issue, then it's not an issue. I'm not making Aryan gold.

And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: ProfMac on September 12, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
Any Texans on this website?

I am.  My family has been in Texas since 1874.
I can't really encourage you to go down this path.


Making silver that prides Texas? Why?

In particular, the "legal guides" and the whole retro-history point of view.  If you do know your Texas history, you may remember that some tax evaders formed a "Republic of Texas" and formed a compound in the Davis Mountains about 15-20 years ago.  The got into an armed conflict with the (State of) Texas Rangers.  It was an interesting news item in the Austin American Statesman that the "Republic of Texas" surrendered to the "State of Texas."

It would probably be more helpful to you to ask yourself privately why the police were at your door.  In particular, if you are doing anything illegal or obnoxious, you might want to keep a much lower profile.  In part, that means to avoid posting the angry or anti-establishment postings.

One of the odd little secrets is, most of the people who read the law and pay attention eventually do the same sort of things.  They know so much law that they can pass a test on it.  They are allowed to call themselves "lawyers."  They recommend to everyone else to "follow the law."

The overall tone in your post is how to challenge the police, or the establishment.  You simply can't get anywhere that way.  You can't drive 100 miles an hour down I-35 and claim freedom.  You have to conform enough to keep other people safe and not grumpy.  

So, sure, make your Texas shaped trinkets.  Go ahead and even put a piece of petrified wood in the middle.  Stamp a pecan, a mockingbird, and a bluebonnet on it.  Put a star marking Goliad, Washington-on-the-Brazos, the Alamo, and San Jacinto on it.  It will sell.  If your craftsmanship is really good, I would even buy one.

You could put the Branch Davidians on it.  Personally, I believe they were unlawfully killed.  Many people believe that.  I have spoken to Riordan and some of the survivors at the screening down at Dobie, and I think my opinion is pretty fact based.  However, it won't buy me groceries.  Your coin with the Davidian property location won't sell enough to recover your costs.

So, again, I can't really encourage you to go down that path.




Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Any Texans on this website?

I am.  My family has been in Texas since 1874.
I can't really encourage you to go down this path.


Making silver that prides Texas? Why?

In particular, the "legal guides" and the whole retro-history point of view.  If you do know your Texas history, you may remember that some tax evaders formed a "Republic of Texas" and formed a compound in the Davis Mountains about 15-20 years ago.  The got into an armed conflict with the (State of) Texas Rangers.  It was an interesting news item in the Austin American Statesman that the "Republic of Texas" surrendered to the "State of Texas."

It would probably be more helpful to you to ask yourself privately why the police were at your door.  In particular, if you are doing anything illegal or obnoxious, you might want to keep a much lower profile.  In part, that means to avoid posting the angry or anti-establishment postings.

One of the odd little secrets is, most of the people who read the law and pay attention eventually do the same sort of things.  They know so much law that they can pass a test on it.  They are allowed to call themselves "lawyers."  They recommend to everyone else to "follow the law."

The overall tone in your post is how to challenge the police, or the establishment.  You simply can't get anywhere that way.  You can't drive 100 miles an hour down I-35 and claim freedom.  You have to conform enough to keep other people safe and not grumpy.  

So, sure, make your Texas shaped trinkets.  Go ahead and even put a piece of petrified wood in the middle.  Stamp a pecan, a mockingbird, and a bluebonnet on it.  Put a star marking Goliad, Washington-on-the-Brazos, the Alamo, and San Jacinto on it.  It will sell.  If your craftsmanship is really good, I would even buy one.

You could put the Branch Davidians on it.  Personally, I believe they were unlawfully killed.  Many people believe that.  I have spoken to Riordan and some of the survivors at the screening down at Dobie, and I think my opinion is pretty fact based.  However, it won't buy me groceries.  Your coin with the Davidian property location won't sell enough to recover your costs.

So, again, I can't really encourage you to go down that path.




Retro History point of view?!?!?! That is Texas history, I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I'm proud of it. I am not suggesting that anyone evade taxes or anything of the sort, I simply said that I was going to educate the people so they can't get tossed around by the police state that undeniably exists today.

I was not doing anything illegal (and definitely not obnoxious, as I was dead asleep when they came), which is something that will be proven when I write my books.

I am doing nothing different than a lawyer (and even less than, as my books will not be advice, but personal research), I am not suggesting that anyone break the law in any way.

I never suggested anyone challenge the police or establishment, and you are at this point either on meth, or trolling. You are taking my words WAY out of context, and are starting a completely new conversation with your own imagination.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: greyhawk on September 12, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6i5n8vIoR1ry10fwo1_400.gif


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 12, 2013, 04:28:17 PM
Also, I am thinking of putting something like a Gram of silver in my history books, just with something cool on it so that people can have a cool little silver image. Like an old Carthage or Macedonian coin or something in miniature.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 13, 2013, 02:39:43 AM
So will this legal advice be a compendium of crack pot ideas you found on the internet, or will someone with actual law experience and hopefully a law degree get involved?

Who am I kidding, like all your other projects this will just fade away next time you see something shiny.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: viboracecata on September 13, 2013, 02:57:48 AM
There are some services in this community to buy silver coins with bitcoins.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 13, 2013, 05:05:13 AM
So will this legal advice be a compendium of crack pot ideas you found on the internet, or will someone with actual law experience and hopefully a law degree get involved?

Who am I kidding, like all your other projects this will just fade away next time you see something shiny.

I'm getting textbooks to do my own research.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 13, 2013, 07:35:59 AM
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/

My point was what makes you qualified to understand and interpret law? It's not usually layman friendly, and you seem to be on a mission to find loopholes to sell to people, which can only end hilariously.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 13, 2013, 07:42:46 AM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 13, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/

My point was what makes you qualified to understand and interpret law? It's not usually layman friendly, and you seem to be on a mission to find loopholes to sell to people, which can only end hilariously.

I never said I was writing a book to take with you into the court room or your law school, it is just to help regular people.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 13, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: edd on September 13, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

How does silver make math easier?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 13, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

Or you know, just regular US money?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: claycoins on September 14, 2013, 12:23:17 AM
haha


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 14, 2013, 01:25:42 AM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

How does silver make math easier?

By being 1 thing, instead of 3.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 14, 2013, 01:26:20 AM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

Or you know, just regular US money?

Yeah, because US money is stable. (we need a dunce cap smiley)


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 14, 2013, 05:37:12 AM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

Or you know, just regular US money?

Yeah, because US money is stable. (we need a dunce cap smiley)

Yeah, about that...

https://i.imgur.com/DCQFdQx.gif


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 14, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

Or you know, just regular US money?

Yeah, because US money is stable. (we need a dunce cap smiley)

Yeah, about that...

https://i.imgur.com/DCQFdQx.gif

That's not what I mean by stable, to me stable means it will still be have value when the others don't. Hence me talking about keeping it for a collapse.
Notice Silver has never been at 0...


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 14, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
And it will make my taxes so much easier if most of my money is in silver, and once I find a few people to sell me cheap cars and shit for silver (ex: There's a Kilo of silver, thanks for the 78 Deville), people will start hearing about it and want to get paid in silver themselves.

Well you still need to declare gains from bartering; in this case a kilo of silver is worth around 700$, so yeah.

That's fine, calculating taxes for silver would be a lot easier than having Bitcoins, Fiat AND Silver.

Or you know, just regular US money?

Yeah, because US money is stable. (we need a dunce cap smiley)

Yeah, about that...

https://i.imgur.com/DCQFdQx.gif

That's not what I mean by stable, to me stable means it will still be have value when the others don't. Hence me talking about keeping it for a collapse.
Notice Silver has never been at 0...

Neither has the US dollar, and if it were to hit zero, you'd have much more pressing issues to deal with than trying to trade silver for weed.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 15, 2013, 05:37:14 PM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 15, 2013, 05:55:55 PM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 15, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.

Being exchangeable for services and debt, is different than having actual value. The American dollars value is based on Americas might, at war and market. It has nothing to do with the actual value of the money.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 15, 2013, 09:56:41 PM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.

Being exchangeable for services and debt, is different than having actual value. The American dollars value is based on Americas might, at war and market. It has nothing to do with the actual value of the money.

Good luck trading that silver with any means of ease.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 15, 2013, 11:50:26 PM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.

Being exchangeable for services and debt, is different than having actual value. The American dollars value is based on Americas might, at war and market. It has nothing to do with the actual value of the money.

Good luck trading that silver with any means of ease.

I'm sure I can trade it for bitcoins when I need to buy things, and I am SURE there are people willing to take silver. Just for the novelty of it.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 16, 2013, 02:08:08 AM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.

Being exchangeable for services and debt, is different than having actual value. The American dollars value is based on Americas might, at war and market. It has nothing to do with the actual value of the money.

Good luck trading that silver with any means of ease.

I'm sure I can trade it for bitcoins when I need to buy things, and I am SURE there are people willing to take silver. Just for the novelty of it.

Good luck paying for gas, groceries, rent or utilities.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 16, 2013, 02:30:56 AM
The US dollar isn't worth ANYTHING. Hasn't been for years. That's why libertarians exist.

Oh, wow. Well I guess I should call up all the people who accepted my money gladly in exchange for goods and services over the years and ask them not to call the cops, because I'll be mailing silver over to them.

Being exchangeable for services and debt, is different than having actual value. The American dollars value is based on Americas might, at war and market. It has nothing to do with the actual value of the money.

Good luck trading that silver with any means of ease.

I'm sure I can trade it for bitcoins when I need to buy things, and I am SURE there are people willing to take silver. Just for the novelty of it.

Good luck paying for gas, groceries, rent or utilities.

I'll use a debit card (You can sell Bitcoins and get money put into your bank account, same with silver), and I never said that I would never use money again. I said that I would keep most of my money in silver so that taxes were easier. I never said "I'm converting every cent I get to silver" or anything of the sort.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 16, 2013, 02:40:23 AM
If you transact in dollars via cash or plastic, you only really need to track your income. If you trade silver every time you want to exchange for cash to buy stuff, you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver, then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

Simplifying taxes? You're a moron.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 16, 2013, 02:56:16 AM
If you transact in dollars via cash or plastic, you only really need to track your income. If you trade silver every time you want to exchange for cash to buy stuff, you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver, then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

Simplifying taxes? You're a moron.

I plan on buying silver anyways, so there is no way around it. I would rather put my cash in the bank, keep my money in silver and that's that.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 16, 2013, 02:58:23 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: rampantparanoia on September 16, 2013, 03:02:00 AM
<- Texan.

1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

there's a thing called GAAP you must follow if you intend to declare taxes (and I suggest you set up a business, or at least a DBA, as the IRS will teach you how to hold your ankles for dear life if you fail to pay taxes on significant income >$600)

honestly, in today's economy folks are struggling going paycheck to paycheck. most folks aren't even considering long term investments because they have to feed themselves or their children & pay bills. though you could try this out, and i'm not trying to discourage you, just know that demand may not be as strong as you are expecting. in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos to know where we call home


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: ProfMac on September 16, 2013, 03:12:33 AM
... in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos to know where we call home



Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 16, 2013, 03:28:58 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

You see, this is why I hate arguing against burnt out stoners. Your original premise was that silver > dollars because it would simplify taxes. But then, you turn around and say "ooh, receipts".

Dude. DUDE.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 16, 2013, 03:34:01 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

You see, this is why I hate arguing against burnt out stoners. Your original premise was that silver > dollars because it would simplify taxes. But then, you turn around and say "ooh, receipts".

Dude. DUDE.

My point is that taking something and turning it into art, will be simpler than keeping it in a bank and doing taxes on it every year.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 16, 2013, 03:58:47 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

You see, this is why I hate arguing against burnt out stoners. Your original premise was that silver > dollars because it would simplify taxes. But then, you turn around and say "ooh, receipts".

Dude. DUDE.

My point is that taking something and turning it into art, will be simpler than keeping it in a bank and doing taxes on it every year.

Have you ever produced a tax declaration? You'd appreciate the absurdity you just said.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: FinShaggy on September 16, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

You see, this is why I hate arguing against burnt out stoners. Your original premise was that silver > dollars because it would simplify taxes. But then, you turn around and say "ooh, receipts".

Dude. DUDE.

My point is that taking something and turning it into art, will be simpler than keeping it in a bank and doing taxes on it every year.

Have you ever produced a tax declaration? You'd appreciate the absurdity you just said.

People have to do taxes on art? So if I were to go make a statue out of marble, would I have to pay on that marble like an investment?


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: surebet on September 16, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
1. you need to keep track of every individual transaction between dollars and silver

2. then figure out your gains or losses investment wise.

1. Oh god, keeping receipts, what a nightmare. And in the age where every company sends you an email, and every phone is a camera. What ever will I do?

2. Only if I sell the silver. If I keep the silver until the sun explodes, I should be fine just putting that I bought it. I am not buying it as an investment, I am buying it for artistic purposes. I'm making my own stuff.

You see, this is why I hate arguing against burnt out stoners. Your original premise was that silver > dollars because it would simplify taxes. But then, you turn around and say "ooh, receipts".

Dude. DUDE.

My point is that taking something and turning it into art, will be simpler than keeping it in a bank and doing taxes on it every year.

Have you ever produced a tax declaration? You'd appreciate the absurdity you just said.

People have to do taxes on art? So if I were to go make a statue out of marble, would I have to pay on that marble like an investment?

I do not believe that marble is a publicly traded commodity, so unrealised gains are probably not eligible to taxation or tax credits, but the second you sell that shit, you sure do sparky.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: edd on September 17, 2013, 06:54:46 PM
... in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos made by a non-Texan solely for the purpose of cashing in on "Texas spirit" to know where we call home



FTFY.

By the way, I'm also Texan, born and raised.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: QuestionAuthority on September 17, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
... in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos made by a non-Texan solely for the purpose of cashing in on "Texas spirit" to know where we call home



FTFY.

By the way, I'm also Texan, born and raised.

The stars at night are big and bright - clap, clap, clap, clap ____________________.


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: edd on September 19, 2013, 02:10:14 PM
... in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos made by a non-Texan solely for the purpose of cashing in on "Texas spirit" to know where we call home



FTFY.

By the way, I'm also Texan, born and raised.

The stars at night are big and bright - clap, clap, clap, clap ____________________.

We all thought it.  :-[


Title: Re: Texas!!!!!!!
Post by: QuestionAuthority on September 19, 2013, 04:12:16 PM
... in my experiences, being from texas is enough - we don't need mementos made by a non-Texan solely for the purpose of cashing in on "Texas spirit" to know where we call home



FTFY.

By the way, I'm also Texan, born and raised.

The stars at night are big and bright - clap, clap, clap, clap ____________________.

We all thought it.  :-[

You fought the urge to complete the sentence. I'm impressed! I've never met a Texan and said that in front of them without having them complete it.  ;D