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Title: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: x8664amd on February 27, 2018, 07:31:41 AM
https://noobminer.xyz/nvidia-volta-predicting-eth-hash-rate/

It would be pretty crazy if new GTX 2070 (?) can achieve 55MH/s  ::)


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: shibob on February 27, 2018, 08:20:17 AM
https://noobminer.xyz/nvidia-volta-predicting-eth-hash-rate/

It would be pretty crazy if new GTX 2070 (?) can achieve 55MH/s  ::)

Typically it should be about 1.5x better than the previous series. For example GTX 1070 could do 30 mh/s, I think 2070 may perform 45 mh/s.
 


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: manji on February 27, 2018, 08:47:30 AM
https://noobminer.xyz/nvidia-volta-predicting-eth-hash-rate/

It would be pretty crazy if new GTX 2070 (?) can achieve 55MH/s  ::)
we would see, what the prediction is true.
whether capable its the GPU on surfing with Dag Size ETH which increases, network difficulty. and the price according to his ability. but if usually new release, the Manufacture do  "test on the water" of its products.   if looking this news, what the prediction "mining GPUs is will die too soon?" or some miner when would buying GPUs, can be said is idiot?.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Turkish88 on February 27, 2018, 08:49:06 AM
Its not Volta is ampere. I dont wouldt be surprised if nvidia release new drivers for this cards and slow mining speed to provide turing sells


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: x8664amd on February 27, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
Its not Volta is ampere. I dont wouldt be surprised if nvidia release new drivers for this cards and slow mining speed to provide turing sells

Titan V is based on Volta architecture. Shouldn't Titan be a "preview" of what's to come for consumers? What's the difference between Volta and Ampere?


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Aeon_ on February 27, 2018, 09:06:53 AM
With no new cards announced by AMD, Nvidia has little to gain releasing a very powerful product...expect that the 2070 will do something like +15/20% hash at the same power consuption of a 1070.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Metroid on February 27, 2018, 09:29:41 AM
forget volta, nvidia itself said will not be gaming gpus for mining so it must mean they will block, also is known that nvidia will launch a cryptomining blockchain card soon.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Miningtry on February 27, 2018, 09:47:30 AM
Any word on the 20XX series release date? Q2,Q3?


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: x8664amd on February 27, 2018, 10:03:39 AM
Any word on the 20XX series release date? Q2,Q3?

I heard from my buddies at Gigabyte that it will be Q3.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Turkish88 on February 27, 2018, 10:08:02 AM
forget volta, nvidia itself said will not be gaming gpus for mining so it must mean they will block, also is known that nvidia will launch a cryptomining blockchain card soon.
Rebrand my words )))


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: coinzoid on February 27, 2018, 10:08:29 AM
I don't think it will be anytime soon to release new Nvidia GPUs.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: D1NG0 on February 27, 2018, 11:07:27 AM
forget volta, nvidia itself said will not be gaming gpus for mining so it must mean they will block, also is known that nvidia will launch a cryptomining blockchain card soon.

You mean the rumoured Turing GPUs, just for mining. Even if they brought that out would love to see the terms and conditions attached to such models.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: xxcsu on February 27, 2018, 01:06:04 PM
https://noobminer.xyz/nvidia-volta-predicting-eth-hash-rate/

It would be pretty crazy if new GTX 2070 (?) can achieve 55MH/s  ::)

That article on hothardware.com about 82MH/s (ETH) with Titan Volta (https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-titan-v-volta-ethereum) card probably not exactly right , as you can see on the screenshot its happened within the first second of the miner program started, there is no screenshot about that card do some real mining with over 82MH/s on long run ...
With my own personal experience those Titan V cards are very sensitive for the gpu temp / mining hashrate.  I can make them hashing stable around 81MH/s if i can keep the gpu temp under 70C, preferably under 60... as soon as gpu temp going over 70C the card become instable on 81MH/s . Between 70-75 C the hashing speen can be stabilized around 77-78MH/s ( ETH ), between 75-80C gpu temp the card can do around 75-76MH/s stable on ETH.

my "test bench" is pulling around 230 watts at the wall during ETH mining with 81MH/s
- the idle system power draw at the wall, without the Titan V installed into a my "test computer" is 60 watts .
- The idle system power draw at the wall with Titan V installed but not hashing is 90watts
So the nVidia Titan V total power draw at the wall is 230 watts - 60 watts = 170 watts, with a 81MH/s hashing power...

Im Working on water cooloing solution :) to keep the gpu temp lower and see what the max hashrate i can get out from this hashing monsters ;)

http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/volta8hours.PNG



Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: DES_MX on February 27, 2018, 01:17:13 PM
Don't expect any improvements over 1080Ti in the newly released cards. As others have noted, these most likely, will be a refresh. Therefore below could be expected:
- If it's a refresh based on 1080Ti shader count, there might be 10% increase (saturation of TDP, even with process optimizations / die shrink)
- If it's a refresh based on the 1070Ti shader count, there might be 15% increase (more room).
- If it's a new card based on cut down version of Titan V, see case of 1080Ti again. As the Titan V is about 25-35% faster than 1080Ti depending on the applicaiton, it is unreasonable to expect same gain for non Titan series.

All in all, my recommendation (given market conditions) is to load up on the Titan Xp (collector's edition cards) as these are retailing now below 1080Ti pricing and will definitely have better resell value. At the same time, with optimized temperatures these cards hash at least 10% faster than aftermarket 1080Ti's.



Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Vann on February 27, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
According to Cryptomined, his Nvidia engineer source has stated the new GTX lineup will be called Turing and based on a modified Volta architecture. They won't be released until around July this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTZ_zTj8o4


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: sky999 on February 27, 2018, 02:31:54 PM
If we take into account that Ethereum will go to PoS the main importance is core productivity (Equi, Neo,Lyra2 end same other algos). I think it will be max 20-30% better then current series.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: xxcsu on February 27, 2018, 06:30:14 PM
According to Cryptomined, his Nvidia engineer source has stated the new GTX lineup will be called Turing and based on a modified Volta architecture. They won't be released until around July this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTZ_zTj8o4

According to TECHSPOT Nvidia's GTX 2070 and 2080 cards could be unveiled next month, launch late April (https://www.techspot.com/news/73456-nvidia-new-geforce-cards-rumored-arrive-next-month.html)


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: badfad on February 27, 2018, 06:50:17 PM
Honestly I don't care that much about it's hash/W right now.

Anyone wanna predict it's price?


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Vann on February 27, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
According to Cryptomined, his Nvidia engineer source has stated the new GTX lineup will be called Turing and based on a modified Volta architecture. They won't be released until around July this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTZ_zTj8o4

According to TECHSPOT Nvidia's GTX 2070 and 2080 cards could be unveiled next month, launch late April (https://www.techspot.com/news/73456-nvidia-new-geforce-cards-rumored-arrive-next-month.html)

That's what I had heard as well. Like he says in the video, according to his source the rumors are not correct. I guess we'll find out.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: nsummy on February 27, 2018, 08:52:02 PM
According to Cryptomined, his Nvidia engineer source has stated the new GTX lineup will be called Turing and based on a modified Volta architecture. They won't be released until around July this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTZ_zTj8o4

According to TECHSPOT Nvidia's GTX 2070 and 2080 cards could be unveiled next month, launch late April (https://www.techspot.com/news/73456-nvidia-new-geforce-cards-rumored-arrive-next-month.html)

That what I had heard as well. Like he says in the video, according to his source the rumors are are not correct. I guess we'll find out.

I can't imagine Nvidia unveling a new gaming line at a conference aimed at businesses dealing with AI and deep learning.  Though there are rumors that NVidia will be releasing a mining line and a gaming line, I also can't fathom Nvidia releasing mining oriented cards before gaming cards, gamers everywhere would have a heart attack.  It will be interesting to see what happens though considering this conference claims to be about the future, so who knows what will happen.    One thing is for sure, a mining series of cards and gaming series would be nothing but pure marketing.  Miners will buy what provides the best performance at the cheapest price.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: x8664amd on February 28, 2018, 01:53:44 AM
Don't expect any improvements over 1080Ti in the newly released cards. As others have noted, these most likely, will be a refresh. Therefore below could be expected:
- If it's a refresh based on 1080Ti shader count, there might be 10% increase (saturation of TDP, even with process optimizations / die shrink)
- If it's a refresh based on the 1070Ti shader count, there might be 15% increase (more room).
- If it's a new card based on cut down version of Titan V, see case of 1080Ti again. As the Titan V is about 25-35% faster than 1080Ti depending on the applicaiton, it is unreasonable to expect same gain for non Titan series.

All in all, my recommendation (given market conditions) is to load up on the Titan Xp (collector's edition cards) as these are retailing now below 1080Ti pricing and will definitely have better resell value. At the same time, with optimized temperatures these cards hash at least 10% faster than aftermarket 1080Ti's.



Why do you say that if based on 1070Ti shader count, we would see a bigger improvement of 15%? Genuinely curious about this from a more technical standpoint.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: xxcsu on March 02, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
Honestly I don't care that much about it's hash/W right now.

Anyone wanna predict it's price?


Nvidia’s top-end GTX graphics cards could more than double in price (https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-gtx-2080-1500/)


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: MTS Coin on March 03, 2018, 12:11:37 AM
Honestly I don't care that much about it's hash/W right now.

Anyone wanna predict it's price?


Nvidia’s top-end GTX graphics cards could more than double in price (https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-gtx-2080-1500/)

I fear the worst. The markets are only getting more depleted in the GPU area.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Druiz287 on March 03, 2018, 12:27:24 AM
Has anyone heard that the 20 series would be made to not support any type of mining?


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Vann on March 03, 2018, 12:36:09 AM
Has anyone heard that the 20 series would be made to not support any type of mining?

Sounds like a rumor started by a desperate gamer. Why would Nvidia waste resources doing something so dumb, when they make money selling cards to miners?


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: TheMrJ on March 03, 2018, 08:28:43 AM
Has anyone heard that the 20 series would be made to not support any type of mining?

Sounds like a rumor started by a desperate gamer. Why would Nvidia waste resources doing something so dumb, when they make money selling cards to miners?

maybe they want to sell more specially GPU for miners. That would be the best for the gamers.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: smoolae on March 03, 2018, 10:28:28 AM
Have also read somewhere that announcement could take place on 26-29 March. Don't know how true this rumor is but maybe.


Title: Re: Predicting upcoming VOLTA hashrate
Post by: Druiz287 on March 03, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
Has anyone heard that the 20 series would be made to not support any type of mining?

Sounds like a rumor started by a desperate gamer. Why would Nvidia waste resources doing something so dumb, when they make money selling cards to miners?

maybe they want to sell more specially GPU for miners. That would be the best for the gamers.

"Also remember that NVIDIA has recently said that GeForce graphics cards are for gamers, and not miners, with the company already making retailers aware of this."

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60812/nvidia-block-geforce-gtx-20-series-cards-mining/index.html

NVIDIA is not happy that cards are being taken away from gamers.  I wish they would actually make gaming specific cards and mining specific cards because there is a very different supply, demand, and hence equilibrium price for each.  I am a miner, and I have 10 GTX 1070s running at all times.  But I still don't think its fair to monopolize the supply.  Why should gamers suffer because of miners?