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Do you think that some bounty programs cheat because they do not want to pay bounty hunters by bringing out things to do at they end of bounty campaign? Share your thought or experience.

I have experienced it many times,most of these new bounty campaigns will change the rules like at the end of the campaign they will require you to submit your IDs for the KYC verification.How the FCK those people who doesnt have passports yet ? not going to receive stakes because of that,hard earned stakes will be ignored,a shady corrupt bounty managers will always find their ways to steal those allocations for the bounty hunters.

Nope, normally they pay the bounty if they are legitimate, because if not the communty would turn against them and damage their interest. The exception is pure scams.

If they really want to get their tokens or coins to the masses it would be stupid to take the risk.
Bounty hunters are good at spreading the PR messages, but that can turn the other way if bounties are cheating

yes, absolutely, some bounty managers sound suspicious, they intentionally disqualify or reject the work of promoters and deprive them of their reward for their time and work, i do not know the intentions behind, may be they pay more to friends and family or keep the extra for themselves.

Bounty hunters need to know the manager they are getting a long because some of these bounty managers will do everything just to remove participants in the bounty campaigns for them to get all the stakes allocations.There are few good managers which will pay you well,sometimes even these managers are getting scammed by these ICOs so there will be a lot of factors to consider,but if these ICOs wont pay the hunters that will be the reason why the community will stand against them.

We cannot do anything about it when in the official bounty threads,they indicated that anytime the bounty managers can change the rules,allocations etc. that is why we need to get familiar to the bounty managers whom we are joining to because some of these really are doing anything just to get you kickout from the bounty program,and that is unavoidable.

Yes,to what i have experienced some of these bounty programs will change their rules when the stakes counting is going on,some of these will change the rules,that is why you need to check the bounty thread from time to time.Worst you will get kicked out without any further explanation after doing your job and completing your task weekly,you wont get paid after promoting them for months.

See few topics but nobody wants to say names of cheating bounties and bounty managers. I was not paid one time but this ICO was scum. But if ICO isn't scum usually everybody pay tokens. 

Most of them are really cheating that is why i am only joining these few good managers that i know because i am always getting paid in time as promised .You find some of these managers will steal your allocated tokens like they will only distribute half of the tokens which has been promised and allocated to the bounty hunters,so better to watch out these greedy people.

Some campaign do that, dont know why though. For example you need to do some kyc, im fine with kyc if they accept national IDs as well but they only accept passport geez that hard. If they want to do some KYC like that is fine as long they announce it before campaign even start. Not like everyone got passport

An account of my friend had been hit by red Trusts due to some offense and the worst is, he participated on a Bounty campaign that is red trusts should be not belong and 2 weeks left before the campaign will end the bounty manager expelled his account.
That really hurts because it's an 8 week long with 20 posts per week but he was suddenly out of the group and his time, efforts and other sacrifices were wasted.
Yes, some bounty managers are really into ruining some members and for me he was supposed to be deserve to get his reward even up until the 6th week.

There are some bounty campaign managers are doing the trick of joining their alt accounts on the campaigns they managed and then they put some strict rules and guidelines so that some members will be expelled out while the end of the campaign is ending. So the bounty stake will become higher.
I don't know, seems to be true.
It's only my opinion and I do hope some members will find it real.

Worse, those campaigns are delaying wages. Not only delayed months are being hanged, And now before receiving full salary yet wait 18 Months. That's so bad. So it's hard now to find a sensible campaign, It's really important to be careful. For what we have earned does not go to nothing.

Yeah this is true,i got one bounty campaign which paid me delayed for 3months,everything could happen within the campaign period but mostlikely successful campaigns will pay your efforts,thos who didnt reached the atleast the softcap will surely not going to pay your efforts.That is why we need to be more pick so that we will get paid when the ICO has ended.

One thing you can try to do is join bounty programs with known bounty managers.

Definitely a good reason to do your due diligence to ensure the project is as legitimate as possible before committing to the bounty program!

These people are unavoidable most of the developers are paying the bounty allocations and few are going to fool even the manager,that is why there will be no exception even these manager are gettign scammed but morelikely if the campaign has achieve success they will surely pay you it will take days ,weeks or even months but surely they will,

Yes, I think sometimes the scam is perfected by the companies. At other times, the campaign managers do this so as to garner more profit to themselves by withholding what should be paid out.

No doubt, responses on this subject matter are going to be quite understandably subjective with the real victims of this not wanting to share their stories of bounties that ended up scamming their posters out of their rewards. I have had more than two similar experiences here with managers who ended up not paying out. Please, permit me to keep these experiences to myself and not share now. Of course, I don't expect the mangers to own up if shared here.

I took part in a project that did not raise enough money, no one paid anyone (for bounty). I was not dissatisfied with the fact that I did not receive payment, I was more upset by the fact that the team returned the money to investors and remained without funding a good idea. In bounty, I get irritated and angry most of all when the rules, conditions, amounts of payments, etc. change at the end, when everything is over.

This is the fact that we need to understand,bounty managers will always have the right to change any rules of the program.I know it is unfair but some of these people really doing shady business just to get a lot of money from the bounties,and they will give those hard working bounty hunters pennies in exchanges for promoting the ICO for months.

What do you mean: do something at the end of the company? Undoubtedly, the fact that the manager has the right to change the rules during the company, I previously had such a case, but everything worked out and in the end the manager kept his promises.

I encountered one recently, Coinvest. They are not giving stakes if you don't invest in their crowdsale and it wasn't said in the bounty paper. Some guy learned it after talking to admin and he left the bounty group after pointing that...

Moreover, they'll be distributing bounty rewards throughout the year, a part of the bounties each quarter... I mean what the actual f*ck?

It's true. Most bounties don't pay their participants at the end of the day. Some projects after their  tokensale,  bring out stuffs like KYC knowing fully well most participants are not comfortable sharing their private details due to it being sold. And most times I wonder what they do with the bounty allocation do they share it among themselves or what do they really do with it.

We cant really avoid these scam bounties,even the bounty manager are getting scammed too,that is why we need to be vigillant,research first before you join any of these bounties so it will give you more chance to get your stakes at the end of the campaign.Few of good manager i have been following was also getting involve with scam projects so that means there are no assurance from the start.

I just read a thread or comments that are stating that bounty campaign manager are one of the cause why ICOs and projects failed due to their very strict qualifications for bounty hunters and strict implementation for rules and guidelines.
I have some bounty campaign managers who don't really performed well because I just noticed that while the campaign is running, most participants are leaving. And that will lessen the promotion of ICO ads because there are too few members who are helping them promote their ICOs and projects.

i've read a lot about getting familiar with the bounty manager, how do one suggest that?? i've seen often that rules change like anything. i got 20$ worth tokens to promote an ico for a month (not that iam complaining) but asking bounty mangers about the campaign also invites nightmares. i am hoping if someone could suggest a basic filter, if there is any, to identify a legit bounty project.

Of course, some campaigns turn into a scam, and not paying for the work to promote the project, however, the community is a force that can influence the project. Btw, what successful ICO was not paid the rewards? And at the same time look at the scam from the side of the participants: https://etherscan.io/address/0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471#tokentxns Do you think you can earn a lot if together with you in a social campaign is multi accounts of 100-200 participants?

Yeah that is true,some of the bounty managers are lazy to update the spreadsheet or they are too strict with the qualifications,you need to post quality contents if you dont you will be removed without any warnings,i have a bad experience with some bounty managers here who are too lazy to get the spreadsheet updated,and if you ask them you will be ignored,some of the managers are too strict that is why most of the bounty participants are leaving.

I may be naive, but I don't want to think that projects are deliberately deceiving.
I admit that something went wrong as the creators conceived and didnt manage to earn and reward us.

It shouldnt be some,but most of the bounty campaigns are cheating just like what happen to the SAPIEN's network bounty campaign which has caused a lot of problem with the bounty managers,in the official bounty thread they indicated 5% of the total tokens sold will be given to the bounty hunters but it seems the hunters got only .004% that is why most of the bounty hunters got angry and at the end the bounty manager doubled the first stakes,the reason is they didnt mentioned that there will be a lot of bounty phases which is clearly a scam because they should put that in the thread,and they shouldnt put the 5% because it is clearly a clickbait.

I think it's all bad because we are doing work and have to get money, but dishonest companies want to deceive us, but we need to be together and then they will not be able to do these machinations.

This seems to now be the norm and the order of the day - change in rules at the end or almost at the end of campaign. This i feel is not fair enough.
State your rules whenever campaign is about to start. Those that cannot comply to the rule will simply draw back, instead of wasting their precious time and efforts on a campaign and at the end of the day, they seem not to get any thing in return.
This should be critically looked into.

Hi everybody i am new to bounty but i hope they are not cheating because you invet time in it

Watch the KYC at the end bounties.  They get you all nice and juiced up for your reward.  You did all the hard work then they ask for the real prize. Your passport.  You may end up doing the work, not getting paid and then have your passport or national ID sold on the dark web.  

It is not that I think some of them are cheating. I know for sure that some of them are cheating. That is why everyone should choose careful where to play.

agreed bounty managers should clear the fact that how many total tokens will be there and for how many weeks bounty will run .

I know one more ico who alloted around 9 million tokens for bounty but in real they are giving tokens per week instead of stakes per week ..
which will save a lot of tokens for them .

There will be always bad tomatoes inside the basket,you need to calm down everytime these people tried to cheat,rules are rules but the bounty managers should be misued the previlege that they have because the bounty hunters are working hard to get their stakes at the end of the campaign hoping that they will earn decent amount of money after promoting an ICO for months.

many projects that do not pay, I experienced it several times. should be more in the real project filter real. but that's the weakness. everyone is very easy to promote the project he created. without we know the project is really real or just deceive by just collecting funds from investors. I think this is a staff job of this forum to track the truth of the project.

If they came here and want to managr their own campaign then it better be escrowed.
If not, there is a large possibility they can just walk away and forget all of it.

We have good managers here who are serious into getting better campaigns. Those legitimate ones which will pay off until a bounty ends. Both bounty hunters and the company who started the ICO will get better results at the end of the campaign.

Yes, Definetely. Look at Walton team

https://twitter.com/RNR_0/status/968921842965721089

They forgot to change accounts. It is pathetic.

Cheaters will always find their way to abuse the privilege they have,bounty managers should be responsible of securing the stakes for the bounty hunters,they should have done reearching first before they have accepted the projects,because if the project has turned into scam it will on their hands,most of the bounty managers are doing monkey business at the end of the campaigns so that less people will be able to get their stakes.

That's right, if we want to be sure that we will be getting paid with our works, choosing the right bounty manager should be our first priority. In this case, we are confident enough that the campaign we are into will have a high chances to be successful because it is being manage by a serious bounty manager.

Yes some time  this may happens that they cheats with their bounty players. This is really a serious issue and this discourages many new comers to participate in bounty programs.

Probably his job is just bounty hunter. I totally agreed, i also suppose to every bounty should want KYC for all participants but not just with passport!!. As one of member said that above, everybody doesn't have passport. Even that if possible they also need to check all participations with MAC based scan, just ip scan is not enough!

WTF did i just saw? is that the bounty manager's wallet? so this is only means that most of these bounty managers are taking most of the stakes allocated for the bounty hunters,that is why most of the time these bounty hunters are not getting enough stakes,that is why we need to have more transparent ICOs these days because people will always find their way to abuse the system.

Indeed, the rules of companies are now tough, but there is nothing surprising in this, because they ultimately send out tokens, which you can later implement. But the fact that some companies can change the rules during the bounty raises discontent, but I did not have this  ;)

So far I haven\t encountered such thing but there are a lot of complaints about changing the rules and make it a KYC one, if that is the case the dev of that bounty deserves a negative feedback, because this is meant to cheat their bounty hunters who work so hard to promote their project.

Most of them introduced  new policy because they know that it is not everyone who will be able to meet up with their new terms and by so doing they have reduced the number of persons they will pay

LMAO,thats why most of the participants arent receiveing good stakes after working for months,that is indeed impossible because you cannot use hundreds of accounts in one campaign because you will surely be detected,that is indeed the manager's account because if that is just hunter's account he will be detected immediately from the start.

Yes some bounty programs cheat, I have experienced it firsthand. The dev team change the bounty allocation and bounty manager could not do anything about it. As expected many bounty hunters didn't like it but they could not do anything, only to accept.

Some bounty are cheater because they promised a big % of allocation on bounty hunters but in the end if the project successfully finished they will decreasing the bounty allocation. And they don't give the first statement.

There will always be some people who will take advantage to the privilege that they have,cheating is really a bad thing to do especially when you wont give the stakes properly to those hunters who worked hard to promote an ICO,these managers are really corrupted and greedy i dont want to be rude but most of them are greedy.

There are currently some projects that tend to cheat on the distribute Token. They do not publicly calculate the token for the Bounty participant, paying the Token in as little as one-tenth of what they expect. This disadvantages many members of the bounty. Currently, I see Refereum is happening this phenomenon, the number of Token distribute for members to join the bounty is not the same as what they announced.

I just follow Bounty signature, before I follow Descrow from the deadley , and now I follow YourBlock from the needmoney
I believe in these two professional managers
the problem of cheating by the participants, will certainly be dealt with firmly, blacklists may be appropriate penalties
but if managers cheat, no need to discuss anymore, their account will be red and get a bad reputation like jamalaezaz

Most of the managers are really doing that,because if they will give most of the stakes to the bounty hunters they wont earn that much ,greedy people will aways be there and we should know that these people wont allow most of the bounty hunters to earn more than their earnings,editing the spreadsheet would be easy for them to get more stakes than anyone.

Truly the manager's wallet,what a cheater so these only means that most of these people are really cheating,member should be more vigillant so that we wont be joining any of the new bounty campaigns of these greedy people because they arent giving the right stakes with the people who is working for the campaign.

These managers should be avoided because they arent giving the right stakes to the bounty hunters,if there will be no participants to their campaigns they wont earn because the campaign will not achieve success,thats what we need to do for them not to earn any ,greediness will be always there but this is too much for the bounty hunters.

Some bounty were born to collect user information then sell it/ or use it to spam/scam/cheat

We cannot do anything about these greedy managers,we dont have enough privilege power to remove them,if there are no enough evidence of cheating this would only be some accusations,but i know myself if i am in the same position i will do the same i dont want anyone from the bounty campaign will have more stakes than i have.

I just checked too, and i see on spreadsheet every tries of mine? Im pretty convince that this one is bounty hunter's wallet, maybe not operated just one person but almost every wallet has same tokens. and for utrust, seems he/they join telegram and twitter bounties.

There should be something that we can do about this,if that is really the hunter's wallet that shouldnt be tolerated and if that manager has done cheating he should be getting red trust,managers should always check when there are multiple account users in each campaign so that the stakes will be properly distributed to the hunters.

There are pluses who responsibly checks everything after completing tasks;) So that there are no bots, and all who honestly worked to get their coins)))

That is unacceptable how these bounty hunters are able to use multiple accounts in a single campaign? might be the alt accoutns of these managers that is why they didnt remove the accounts ? or they know the people who are abusing the campaign which explains these accounts arent removed from the bounty program,what a shame!

Most bounty manager is in accordance with the contract, pay the bounty hunter bounty, only some of the scams ico project will not pay your bounty, and because their main purpose to collect your information, perhaps because of the ico project completed without the raise, can not get money to pay the bounty!

Happened 2 times in the last days so far. Reduced the prize. The bigger one happened to me was at Xwin, from 3% overall (around 4m$ sold) to 0.4% paid. And no, we can do not anything, red trust do not matter, cause after #ico they will never log back or if they log, they don't really care cause they already have the money.

We cannot do anything about these cheaters,bounty hunter and managers any of these people doesnt deserved to earn,giving the bounty hunters some pennies and they will take most of the allocated stakes? what will happen to the hard earned stakes? ICO campaigns wouldnt be successful because of the promoters or hunters.

This happens quite well. There is this bounty I participated just of recent, the news just came suddenly that the bounty has ended and they have not actually reached their hard cap but cover up for that in the private sale and that the percentage initially promised will be based on the sale made when the bounty ended and not their total sale as promised. At the end of the day, a ridiculous amount of their token allotted for bounty. I believe this is not fair on the part of the bounty hunters.

Dont ever join any of these campaigns if you find that the managers was cheating from the past,give them some remarks so that yoi will easily find campaogns which wont be profitable because of these cheaters,either the bounty hunters and the bounty managers shouldnt be cheating because its unfair to the most of the bounty hunters out there.

Thats not good bounty thats why we need to make sure of what we do or what we doing because some of them also are not good so make wise always and be careful.

Yes your right, i think some of them are scam thats why they cheat to avoid paying.

After all these years on doing or participating bounty campaigns I have experience almost twice this kind of scenario on where we have been cheated by the project itself.Not on being scammed sense but talking about sudden change on bounty allocations into each program. I cant forget AHT (Bowhead) CTX (Cartaxi) bounty programs that I have joined where they do promise good allocation of bounty tokens and when they hit up the cap they suddenly change rules in the end and we do only get small amounts of tokens which isn't even worth for the hardwork been made.

They shouldnt be allowed to join any of these bounty campaigns because truly they are the only ones who are getting a lot of stakes,cheaters either hunters and managers should be permanently banned from signatures or any campaigns.But we dont know how these people will get caught in action,sabotaging people's stakes isnt a good thing people are working hard for it.

I think were cheated on some bounty campaigns. Some are dropping the amount they are going to distribute, some wanting KYC while they have never been planned. In this way they are reducing the amount they will dispense.

I have been joining these campaigns and before i saw this post i dont really believe someone is stealing the stakes,but now i know how these people are doing it,regardless of hunter or managers they should be punished and burned alive because cheating a lot of people is unforgivable ,what a shame to the community and to the eyes of our lord.

I think yes some of bounty campaign are  cheating mostly in the payment.  I experience it you need to please them to pay you then they pay you in low amount and  lock spreadsheet sometimes they so not fair. Why we need to please them to pay us we do our job to help them? And some of them scam us that's why I always research and observe the bounty campaign i join because I want to avoid to scam and cheated.

Truly there are few people who are taking advantage to the holes of the system,but we shouldnt be doing this because cheating shouldnt be tolerated in the forum. A lot of people are working hard to accomplish the task each week but they are getting less stakes than they should have,managers and bounty hunters should fairly ,this is unacceptable.

I often experience it, some of which will change the rules, because some bounty managers actually do something just to get you kick out of the bounty program. Most of them are really cheats which is why I just joined some nice managers that I know of.

I havent noticed that some of these people are tolerated cheating with these bounty camapaigns,its either the managers knows these cheaters or these accoutns are their altcoins that is why they havent kickout to the program,a greedy shameful people will always find their way to take advantage the situation and the privilege they have.

It is unfortunate, but those things do happen. Last year I was part of a creative bounty campaign in which initially they offered 1000 - 25000 of their token/coin "depending on the creativity and originality of their creation.", but when they made the payments they didn't pay per creation, but a collective amount (this was not like a "total" payment for all submissions, but a random amount they decided to allocate participants, which was much lower than what I would have received had they at least paid the minimum offered per creation). Not sure if it was the bounty manager who changed the terms, or if the ICO team made him/her change it, but they never notified participants of this change (I learned they calculated it as a collective amount from the info they included on the payment).

A few months ago I was part of another Bounty Campaign in which the bounty manager did everything correctly (he maintained communication at all times), yet the people behind the ICO decided to lower percentages (after stakes had already been assigned to benefit a couple additional participants who had not officially registered). Even though it didn't affect me directly (as I didn't participate in those specific campaigns), I think many participants felt cheated / scammed.

Burned alive? No one deserves that even if they cheated, WTF is wrong with you, your a psycho.

Yes some bounty program was not fair, any of them dont pay me although i have stake, but iam also happy many bounty program manage their program with fair and paid me on the times. So i just take this as apart risk of my job.

I have experince that one but in positively situation that bounty programs will pay if their ICO is legit and successfullyhelded.Theres a few ICO is not legit but most of it now has really a capability to grow and has a future in coinmarketcap list.

Got it to see some issues with the latest bounties, specally the amount of tokens resrved for bounties seems to be changed at the last minute. That is really bad as every bounty hunter research the amount of tokens reserved for bounties before they start the campaign.

Yes i think some of project developer want to cheat us as bounty hunter by not pay our work during the crowdsale.
I talk some of them and not all because many of them just pay our work on time.
I have example, centra is big project and its success project but not all people get their token, i did not get anything although i am in spreadsheet. Nobody help me out and i stop asking.

Yes, I  have an experience with this one. According to the Refereum team (not the Bounty Manager) they cancelled the bounty program but the Bounty Manager was not informed, the Bounty Manager submitted the spreadsheets but the Refereum team did not follow the spreadsheets.  that is why the payment was reduced 10x from its original amount. Until now this thing is still indispute. Because signature campaign participants was only paid for 50 to 100 dollars for 3 months work, social bounty eas only paid 5 to 10 dollars for 3 months work and take note the ICO has reach ithe hardcap.

Well, so far at this bounty I don't experience to be a scam because mostly I joined in a signature campaign, not by bounty campaign program. Why they are tolerated to that in their members besides the participants will bring them a big help to invite more investors by joining social media's campaign and wearing their signature. If that happens their reputation is still okay will continue with their project?

I hate those bounty managers who do not update the stake regularly and promised to update at the end of ICO. Those are the suspicious ones.

i also never see projects that cheat people in bounty programs by now, but i see several projects that cant raise enough money to reach the soft cap which lead the ico to fail, then people get nothing for their efforts

This topic has been on my mind to express before this time. Thank you starting it. Yes, many bounty managers are very tricky. They wait to display their ugly character at the end of the campaign. Coming up with different excuses to deprive bounty hunters of their legitimate reward after hard work. I think that habit can be tag cheating of the highest order. The recent KYC saga is a case in point.

I have experienced it. they always gave me a stake in the spreadsheet, but at the end of the campaign they did not give me a reward because I did not qualify.
If I do not have enough requirements why I always get stock every week and after 3 months I just got word. That is something that does not make sense and they are deceiving.
After I complained to the manager, they replied that the final decision could not be changed anymore.
Indeed they have corruption.

my past experience is not all the bounty campaign pay full reward when campaign ends , some of them just pay half of total reward or less , even ICO reach their goal target, bount hunter can't do anything , just move to other campaign and mark down who is the bounty manager, don't join his/her manage campaign again

In my opinion, unless the project is failed, the teams wont cheat the participants. this is a game and both sides need to do right things. if not, the investors wont invest in their coins.

Thanks for pointing this out. I wouldn't even buy into such a project from the look of things as it is fraught in deceit.

I hope this isn't another barbarian from the third world country? How on earth do you think such a punishment is appropriate for theft? SMH...And you dare insert "Our Lord" into it? Now give yourself an ironic clap offering for that gory suggestion.

If they need KYC then they need to disclose that up front, before the bounty starts.  Throwing that in at the last minute is a douche move.  Also, why would they need KYC if they are giving the tokens out? 

Yes I agree with you. Some programs change the rule at the end. They don't say newbie not allow on the topic but when the end of bounty I ask them and receive the answer like that.

I've been their. And what I observed on some successful ICO's are they don't pay bounty hunters right, some are reasoning that you need to go KYC to GET THE BOUNTY REWARDS, I mean there is no stated conditions like that before you start, OR they would reduce the amount you can get by changing the allocated amount because of the reason that they have problems on eth congestion, on their distribution, on cheaters, too many to mention. I suggest that you stick with the good campaign managers because even if the allocated reward is not big compared to others, the thing for sure is you would sure get your reward and that is we work for.

Yes some bounty cheat at the end of the campaign they do that for their own purpose like changing their rules so that the bounty hunters that give time and effort for them will not get their earnings for the hard work. And the bounty hunters will get nothing and those people that organize the bounty will get the shares or earning of others. We only way that we can do is to put those bounty manager a negative trust so that when they organize another bounty campaigns the bounty hunters will be aware to join them.

Yes, there are projects that don't want to pay compensation to bounty hunters. But fortunately, there aren't many such projects. Others pay, though not always completely.

Now, over time, more and more diverse methods are becoming available to ensure that signatory campaign participants do not pay already earned tokens. Yes, it was after the completion of ICO that some ICO companies began to require identification data and copies of passports. I believe that they should do this before joining the signature campaign, so that anyone has the right to choose to provide such data or not.

In addition, some companies require you to register on other sites, and then begin to require various actions and information messages, moving from one page to another, you need to enter something, but it does not always work. It happens that from this page throws out and all this is done in the end can not. And in the end, you do not get tokens. I consider this to be a new kind of fraud, because there are conditions for joining, and after performing the specified work, tokens must be paid without any conditions and the need for payment claims.

I haven't experienced bounty cheaters so far but I oftentimes hear stories of scammers in bounty programs. What happens usually is that after a certain period of time, they will be asked to put a money down for them to continue then after giving out a certain amount, they won't hear anything and was not able to recieve anything also. Tht's what I heard so far...

so far do not get into trouble with the division of bounty that I should get. most gift hunters are too compelled to claim to charge a full fee, but their work is so out of date and likely spam. sorry i'm not criticizing everyone, but some people make me sick. today many members only make social media reports and they use signatures but without creating educational or sharing posts. I want more strict manager to pay attention to bounty sign participants

Some bounty campaigns didn't pay according to what they planned. The allocation percentage is not meet when giving the reward. They drop the amount of reward into a half of the original percentage. They are delay to distribute and pay incomplete token even the project become successful and growing in the market.

All who expressed their opinion in this topic are right and talk about those problems of bounty hunters that many face when participating in companies.
There are  Bounty campanies with disgusting management - rules changing every week, reports are not counted according to the established payment but as the bounty manager wants, the company finishes the bounty, but continues the ICO and reduces payments to the bounties, or does it at all withdraw itself and changes the site, or they dont update spreadsheets in time, and all bounty hunter should add them in Blackpapper and ignore such campanies.

You can run into problems with bounty campaigns and to be honest you need to accept that as part and parcel of the process. You should therefore select your campaigns more carefully to start with and check if they are being managed by someone with a good reputation already and not a Newbie.

There are cheats on both sides I have seen one instance where sombody used 25 accounts on a signature campaign to get a bigger share of the pot at the end.

I have read in several threads about managers who do not pay bounty hunters. this is the risk of all of us.
until now I have not felt harmed by a bounty campaign. all this time all smooth, because I always try to do the job properly.

probably the cheaters do exist but are proven to be honest until the expiration of the bounty is also very much. cheating is so unsettling even though I have never experienced and should not going on that kind of thing.

Consonant! there are such unfair campaigns. I participated in the bounty of arcblock. Everything was cool, all the participants worked. But in the end it turned out that the pool for bounty is not 1 percent. The reward for all was 1 percent of 8 percent.
Instead of $ 500, I made $ 70.

Absolutely yes...some bounty managers/concerned personnel cheat bounty participants. Some of them find it difficult to pay the assigned percentage after the end of campaign.

In some campaigns, ICO really deceives the participants in the signature campaign. Parts change the rules of the campaign, if they see that participants can earn a lot of profit, this amount changes to a much smaller amount. However, the most common and often occurring deception is that, after the completion of the ICO, campaign participants begin to require signatures to perform various actions, which are called the requirement to pay tokens. In this case, you need to go to different sites, register there and perform various actions, which are sometimes simply incomprehensible or something you can not find. It's just a nightmare. Especially if the bad Internet and constantly throws from the page, or it just hangs. As a result, all the required can not be performed and the tokens are not paid.

In general, if the ICO project is crowdfunded, most of the time they will pay the bounty on time.
But if the ICO project isn't crowdfunding successful, it's a pity that most of the time they'll find a lot of excuses to refuse to pay the bounty.

I think they are just using the bounty hunters to promote their campaign with the reward of reward, but after their project success with the hard cap, they do not pay the bounty hunter job. it never happened to me on the burst qi project. neither the bounty hunters get paid from their projects.

I can not understand or deepen the feelings of people what their intentions are good or evil I obviously do my job with iklas and honestly why on the result we are harmed we can only be patient and wait again that there really is a good intent so we should not give up in all.

If people cheat me out of my bounty I get together with the other people who have been cheated and we deliver an ultimatum to pay what they owe or watch their reputation get trashed on social media. The smart ones pay right away, the dumb ones pay after watching their token crash along with their reputation.

I have no dount that many bounty programs are cheating . I'm not sure this is a managers fault , or a project's , but bountyhunters often didn't receive their salary at all , or receiving it in a much lesser amount . It even could happen if project is successful , not scam , but they simply fraud bountyhunters - people who worked to help them to reach their ICO target . It is very dissapointing and I hope this problem will be solved in a future

most scam ico only

This is the sad part of doing campaign. Some campaign requires KYC when the campaign will ending. This is a bad move by the company because we all know that kyc is for investor only. Some bounty hunter don't put money in the ICO and just only do advertising. I find it odd when company decide to change their rules with this when they can make this rule at the start of the campaign so some user won't bother joining their campaign if they don't like kyc.

I do not know, this is all smoothly there are no obstacles in every campaign that I follow. I hope the future will be even better. in order for you to get paid, at least you must meet the campaign rules and always try to get the quality of the post.

The conditions must be fulfilled after the end of the bonus campaign launched by the ICO. I think the ICO project is a scam. Do not pay any tokens to anyone. But if such a case is really a shortage, anger. The time we spend promoting them.
Wish you luck.

For me? Yes some of the responses here are maybe a scam. Because nowadays there are many people who know how to scam even if in the bounty campaigns.

Cheating is everywhere and in bounty programs is always happen. You participate in bounty and you know its not scam but the manager you didn't know if they are can  trusted. But i think we cannot avoid the manager campaign who cannot trust but if you encounter a good manager stay with them because surely you can get earning.

Now a days most of the bounty campaigns are not paying to the participants so we need to select a good bounty program do some research about the team before promoting them and join on the campaigns which run by reputed mangers to avoid risks.

Scammers are abundant in the crypto world, and I guess includes some bounty managers.  I’ve been in only one extended signature campaign and it paid out.  There are so many bounties out there that you just hope you pick the right one. 

It's common to most of the bounties. They usually state that they can change the rules during a campaign. So when they don't reach their hardcap they can decrease bounty rewards up to several times. So you should always be prepared for it.

whoaah this post makes me nervous, what if i will encounter this probs. Im having hard time posting and answering posts, it is so sad if i will encounter this.

Some bounty is cheating. But you know about the bounty project information. So first you know the project information then you invest. Project work is information for the bounty. If learn the bounty then you get information for best bounty. It any time to change price. So you know the project and bounty information. It good opportunity for get more information from bounty project. It help to improve the future business process and invest for the future business development.

I dare not say that all ICO projects are fraudulent, but they account for 70% of the fraudulent ICO projects on the Bitcoin Forum. I really do not know which ICO project to choose, because they are too much. If you choose a scam ICO project, I will lose money and lose a lot of time. Hope everyone can help me.

Possible, I experienced it. They just used peoples' effort then after the ICO end you can no longer search their thread,they GONE and it is so disappointing. You give your full trust on that ICO but ended up nothing.

I agree, some bounty programs have this kind of ways to cheat in the end part of the bounty campaign. I wonder whose going to blame for this, tbe bounty manager or the dev team. Also some of them have no transparency in calculating the stakes, this just shows that they're corrupting some of the stakes for their own.

Yes indeed there are such companies, but in everyday life a lot of scrotum! Bounty companies need to pick up for themselves, check at least as it is! The command to see who is working on a project and much more! In our life, no one is immune from fraud! We do need to avoid these scams! And if you still got on this company, more loyal to the fact that you are not paid for their work! Good luck to all, and less cheaters on the way!!!

I do not think there are such campaigns, but everything is possible. At least for now, I'm glad I did not have experience with such programs.  :)

I think that nobody is safe from cheating. And the relationship between the bounty Manager and campaign participants is not declared. The participants do the work at your own risk.

There may be programs in which to cheat deliberately, but I doubt they have any benefit from this. So there is hardly any such campaign.  :)

Usually the bounty campaigns hire a bounty manager to distribute to tokens to the respective bounty hunters. I highly doubt many bounty managers care too much when they are working with other peoples funds. However, I would expect that since they don't care too much, they are likely to overlook some of the contributions of the bounty hunters, therefore leading to a slight reduction in the amount of tokens given out. I doubt this is intentional, it's probably just a result of the tediousness of the role and human error.

Yes, for example the OTHO project. They announced that OTHO will be having a bounty program. So a lot of people decided to join including myself. Only to know that it is a scam project at the end of the bounty program.

Unfortunately we can coinside this kind of bounties and the managers. We allow our time For joining bounty campaigns and at the end of the bounty program some of them wouldn’t  want to give tokens for bounty hunters. It’s better working same bounty manager all the time there are lots of reliable managers.

I categorically would not advise you to do this business, because today there are so many different means to calculate you by IP, so do not do it, just work with 1 acc, more assiduity and everything will be fine.

I have experienced it and it's very frustrating that we hunters spend so much time for them and there's no reward at all.

Well there are some bounty who are changing their rules in the middle of their campaign so it is really up to us to follow their rules .
But for those campaign who doesn't really paid up I think those are the ones who failed to reach their minimum cap for their coin.
Some bounties takes time to pay up because of some delays.

In my opinion, the company can not be honest in one point and completely dishonorable in another. I saw many opinions that the project is good, and everything is honest, well, they deceived all bounty participants, but it does not matter. Absolutely not. If you know that your friend deceived other people, but not you. Will you trust this person completely? Of course not. It's the same here.

I may be a little lucky cause I am yet to experience those circumstances. That is a very awful thing to do after service have been rendered.
That is plain and simple swindling, and abuse. I detest those cheap acts, so unprofessional.
Anyway, let us just do the best we can to promote our projects in hopes that the first agreement in the form of rules will be honored to the end.
I trust mine though  ;D

No only some of them don´t pay, but also change the rules and reduce bounties or hire managers that do not count properly or are not available. It is not that profitable.

Im also lucky enough to not encounter things like this that some of my friends did. Like after the stake counted they will add that you need KYC before you can claim yours thats really a good move for those cheater manager so people wont get their stake. Thats why i we really need to no more about the manager of bounty we join in before joining.

That is just so unmanly of them, that is just way too cheap a trick. They should be ashamed of themselves.
I on the other hand, am proud to say have not experienced those cheap tricks by some projects.
And I am thankful that bounties I joined in are trustworthy.

well this is a risk we must face every time join a bounty campaign. even more ico to be a scam. but so far I did not get such a serious case for reward payments. because I always try to choose a good manager and have intregritas and attitude

I am tires of scam bounties really, it is just too much to ask a decent bounty, non-draconian rules and a little bit of decency? To all who scam their supporters: It comes back sooner or later.

I haven't had much experience of cheating bounty programs. Just in a very rare occasion that my bounty rewards have been denied. Perhaps because I always try to join bounties that are managed by trusted bounty managers.

In my opinion, there are lots of bounty programs that are scams and it is always up to you if you will believe them. In order for us to avoid it, we should see the profile of the bounty managers, the white paper of the specific ICO and the team members. I know that there are lots of things to consider in order to avoid getting scammed. Didn't you know that there are 46% of ICO's failed at the year of 2017? Maybe some of them are just scams.

Some of them play that kind of tricks which is introducing more tasks for  bounty hunters to be paid. Some of them are now bringing up rules that were sleeping after the end of the bounty.What concerns a bounty hunter with KYC documents which they are asking hunters to upload before you receive any reward.

If There is a well known BOUNTY manager normally There is no problem in payments... many bounties are asking now kyc because of the regulation of their countries

Not at all but there are also some scam bounty campaign :). I also joined an almost scam bounty campaign, it's Refereum :). They said that they'll give 2% of sold token from ICO for bounty campaign. At the ICO they sold 2 billion token that mean there are 40,000,000 token for bounty campaign and signature bounty would receive 4,000,000 token (10%). While there are only total 566 stake in signture bounty that mean it'll be more than 7000 token/ signature stake but I only received more than 500 tokens for my 10 stakes in Refereum signature bounty. LOL. Beside I also know a totally scam bounty campaign, it's Envion :)

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In my experience so far, i can say 90% of bounty program is paying, only some litte  bounty not paying becasue bad organized and they want only free advertising.  But this is risk of my nob, because actually every kind of job has each risk.

I think you should pay attention to various attributes that can affect the results of bounty champaigns. one of which you can join a Bounty program with a well-known Bounty manager with a good level of trust.

It's actually higher than 90%, i can say 95-98% because only 1 of 10 campaigns would turned into scam project.
You should DYOR in any of campaign you wanna join, to prevent getting scammed or foold by scammer.

we've been through this many times, so many projects don't want to pay after they've raised a lot of money.

There is little chance of cheating in a popular bounty program!

It is recommended to find a popular reward program, and the reward manager will pay your token when you finish the work!

YES there are different bounties and different managers who do not conscientiously act with their bounties and throw without paying them a job. But we must select more carefully therefore.

The stakes from disqualified people go to the qualified ones. How does the bounty manager or ICO profit?

I have experienced it FEW times,most of these new bounty campaigns will change the rules like at the end of the campaign they will require you to submit your IDs for the KYC verification but it should be made clear in the begining that people need KYC as many ppl are not comfortable giving KYC details.
Group Admin should clearly watch this and regulate cheating.

Yes if they legit then they will pay but i think the problem is when they are not legit. They will change the rule of the bounty at the end of the crowdsale.
And if they are not legit, without changing everything they also will not pay the bounty.

There always a chance for manager and also the hunters to cheat, the worst part is who are being honest also got cheated. A project shouldn't change at the end of bounties because it will hurt the hunters, they already spent time and their money. So be respectful each other please.

Definitely a lot of bounties and airdrops cheat and scam the users. The same happens in many ICOs.

I'm sure there are many that cheat to get away from making full payments but that's why you need to only do campaigns of trusted bounty managers as well as look into the campaign/company that you're promoting. 5 mins of your time could save you months of work for nothing.

Met a hunter asking for prize rights but unacceptable because the hunter did damage to bounty by using multiple accounts, can not tolerate that trait we want to share fair for everyone who wants to get the gift and we want to share it equally for all successful people find us.
it is part of a message from a friend of mine and also a manager in this forum, and I so would not like it if there is a scam project in this forum.

But you have always the prerogative to stop and go somewhere if the bounties suddenly chance its payment scheme. So far though, I haven't been in a campaign that changes its payment. But it really hurts if the change of payment happens at the end you have put to much effort and at the end getting less than you expected.

I think it could be serious reputation on the bounty managers, specially if he has built enough trust in the community and probably maybe ruin by just one bounty he manages which suddenly change everything at the end.

Hi all!
I participated in MaxData project and they gave me 50 MXD bounty bonuses.
When the crowdsale begins, they will send me tokens.
Looks like they are trustworthy guys.
Did you hear about them? Or maybe someone already took part in bounty of MaxData? Let me know please.

Yep, some projects launch bounty programm, doing well on ICO, collecting money, and after succesfull ICO they think that bounty participants did nothing to pay them amount that was mentioned in the beginning.
And in my experience, all projects that did this way - they also did many things that stopped price rising.
They can gain profit themselves by selling/buying their tokens on exchanges using investors' money, but investors can have just a real small amount in the end. So if I see that there were some unclearnesses during the bounty - I dont buy coins of this project and recommend others to act same

I think that's not the best way! that we have to do real and quality!

There is a possibility that there will be some bounty program that will scam bounty hunters at the end of the day so wisely choose those bounties which you think will pay.

That's the problem -- lot of people just don't want to change anything and they just can't quit the bounty. Because of greediness I believe.
If you see the bounty is scamming you just get an ice cream as a consolation prize and leave that crap project alone.

I havent experience it yet, just be careful when joining follow the rules and submit the legitimate information needed and avoid newbie bounty manger. Choose the  best ico and strong community those project are always successful and have legitimate bounty managers. See first also the reputation of the manager if its green trust or have red trust ,never join on a bounty which manager had red trust. Avoid also little bounty they are the one who is not paying they just consume your time and effort.

I experience it in CarTaxi, they post the allocation token bounty to entice  the bounty hunters and in the end they change the allocation and the bounty manager disappear without a trace and got a negative trust and the token value was dumped hard and until now they didn't recover. Luckily that I didn't invest on it.

I dont experience any trouble or any problem in bounty program because i join in legit bounties that have potential to success. Research first before join in any bounties. Because some of program are scam.

you still lucky to recieve your bounty even they change the allocation .the worste is like what happen in atlant camapaign, moreof the participants there is not get any payment more of them been disqualified after the ICO finish. even though their finish the required post needed.

That is why we need to get to know the bounty manager of the gift program, and that is unavoidable, because
they show that whenever a gift manager can change the rules, allocations, and so on.

There are also such cases. It happens when the end of the bounty program requires the passage of the procedure KYC, or you did not fulfill the required conditions. So much depends on the manager of the company, he may not like something in your work and he will reject you. Other things happen...

I think that's true. There are some cheating bounty programs. Everybody wants to have a free working power, but such teams just undermine confidence to its project by such actions

Unfortunately, recently this happens more often. Some companies do not want to pay tokens bounty hunters for their work. But they do not understand that in the end they will only get worse from this. Their reputation will suffer. And they will lose more from this than they will gain.

Yes it will happen sometimes but most bounty programs paid their applicants according to their effort and honesty in working during the campaign period.

I only experience scam when the project do not have a lot of funds. They created a good project but no one really wants to invest to it. The rules of the bounty is not good at all since it only requires only 50 posts until the end of it. Does it really make sense, how many investors will be attracted to the project if the community itself don't care about it or doesn't make effort to promote it. Community is another element for success so maybe some projects must focus to it since it can be a great factor of having a good campaign. Bounty managers should make quality rules and task that will be done by full effort only.

Since I engage in crypto and join different signature and bounty campaign, I am lucky not to fall in bounty programs who cheat.  I encountered one campaign that unfortunately became unsuccessful and the tokens distributed to us (bounty participants) became worthless but the good thing is they exchange our tokens into bitcoins as our payment.  I also experienced that as the campaign goes on, the prescribed token distribution became lesser but the good thing about it is the token price became more valuable which I find fair enough.  Maybe the key to identify the legitimacy of bounty or signature campaign is to know more the bounty/signature managers and his history upon handling campaign.  Through that, falling into scam campaign will be prevented.

I am just trying bounties for the first time, never earned from them but who knows. Its about the modertaor of the bounty, he might be a scammer and he might be a trusted guy. They can scam and run away.. but you must only choose the trusted ones.

There are a lot of bounty developers who do not pay at the end of the campaign. This does not add the benefits of trust to the project for investors but nevertheless it happens often.

Certainly that's because not all bounty is able to provide an advantage for the hunter sometimes the target that the manager wants is not achieved and the lack of investor interest to contribute some funds for the development of a bounty so that failure can happen in the future.

There are many corrupt managers here that I personally have never experienced this but I know there are some successful projects like BEZOP that do not pay bounty participants, hopefully they get a reply from god, while ico bezop is successful ahead of time and is being traded on hitbtc, bounty participants very disappointed

This is the main reason you need to do your due diligence before choosing a bounty program as some of these bounty managers are greedy.

Always look out for good bounty managers and bounty platforms that have had good track records . I use bountyhive because of the testimonies I have heard from people.

Always do your due diligence before joining any program.

It usually depends on the ICO team.

I had a few disappointments for example, when an ICO team told the bounty manager they had decided to change the overall allocation from 2% to 1% after reaching hardcap...

But this kind of things are pretty rare in my experience.

Not all Bounty campaigns are not totally a cheaters, but some of bounty must be a scammer.  When they not get the final or market price and their target, they need to do a second bounty but some campaigns must do get money because it is only cents or too low.

Lucky for you that you didn't totally invest on that specific ICo because if that's happened probably you might lost everything. Bounty orograms sometimes not that perfect.

although there are some managers who do not pay us in doing a prize campaign but I do not think all the gift managers are cheating on us who have worked to promote the platform they develop. of course there are still some pretty good bounty managers and very professional in running a bounty campaign just that it's usually some delay in terms of payments due to the unfinished dis- tribution.

Yes of course! That's what some bounty program do.
I participated in a particular bounty some weeks ago, actually it's not stated on the thread that KYC is needed before tokens can be received, unfortunately at the end of the campaign we were asked to do KYC, which many has no required documents to do so.
I sincerely see this as cheating.

By moderators, I want to assume you are referring to the campaign managers’ right ?
Most of them actually do not have anything to do with this and they are only being paid to help manage the campaigns, which at the end, the developers are the ones in the best position to get the payments done.

It is always in every hunter's best interest to always be careful of the project they participate in any way so as not to fall in the hands of scammers or developers who are just selfish naturally which is why such project will never grow.

bezop is my huge disappointment. I really beileve in them but they create a bullshit progra which they name bounty. No one answer or take responsibility. I wrote several mail, twitter and forum pages but they are busy to spending money, I think!

In my experience, there are when a bounty-manager leads one campaign and his forum account was created for this purpose. There are misunderstandings with them. To reduce the chances of being deceived, choose bounty-managers with a lot of bounties.

Yes I think some of the bounty managers do cheat and are being pain in the ass! I have experienced of changing rules at the end of campaign's and some other terrible stuff and I find it very annoying and I get very stressed. I argue on telegram and trying to make my point of view, but they are being stubborn and just don't listen to me, so I just leave campaign as it is, not finishing campaigns to the end, as I get very disappointed and don't trust anymore.

Yes, there are some bounty companies that are not fair and they don't pay  although you have stakes. There is always some risk. But most bounty companies pay rewards.

I don't encountered yet. Because if they have changes in the rules, they will inform it also in the telegram. So, all will be updated on what's new. Only I encountered in bounty was the "SCAM". Be careful to the scammer. But definitely, we can't tell if the said project / bounty manager are scammers. You will know it by the end of the ICO. If you don't get your shares / stakes / rewards / tokens. That means, it was SCAM.

For my experience in the Bounty campaigns that I participated that the distributed fee for bounty participants is incorrect, sometimes it is lacking.

As you can see nobody is pleased with bounty campaigns. Most of them have problems, it's too hard to find good bounty campaign. First you have to pick good ICO, then check out their bounty team. I try to pick good ICO's with good bounty team. But most people select it randomly, then complain about lack of experience or scam accusations. Look at Envion, they raised 100 million dollars yet they didn't pay a penny to bounty participants.

that's right gan I also currently experienced it even already almost 8bulan bounty program but already finished the long payment has not been visit this too I think something like that.

I hope that the people behind the programs won't cheat by changing the rules at the end of the campaign. That is not fair. But I believe those credible individuals will continue to be fair to everyone. I believe there still lots of people who have a heart.

You know napoleonx? try to see their spreadsheets, compare blog participants with signature campaign participants, very far away.

In my experience the bounty manager will respect the rules for payment (unless project is discovered to be a scam obiovsly).
Maybe the only problem can be for the task required to be payd, for example sending personal data for KYC or doins some action (like HDAC bounty is doing)...

We always face fraud. And bounty program is no exception. Before taking part in bounty you need to study the profiles of the manager and the developers of the program. It is easy to cheat anonymously, it is more difficult when your name is known.

 do not think it's only a little late payment after token sale but I do not think they do not want to pay because they are not large quantities for them

Cheating in bounty programs are illegal for each bounty campaign we should play fair and square. If a user get caught cheating on the bounty programs there a possibility that he/she will not get payed and get ban on the campaign

Most of the bounties are run by fraudulent which was started for the purpose of scam the investors money through ICO sale so if you are joined in that campaign then don't expect to get the payment after the ICO because they will be invisible after the ICO ends.But the legitimate ICOs will pays normally four or five week after the ICO ends.

I do not think they do not want to give. I do not think that they are trying to create distress .sometimes you can come out with campaigns and you have to pay attention to them too. I do not enter the campaign that writes a lot of exaggeration stuff

This happens frequently in ICO projects. These are fraudulent ICO projects, they cheat people, let people promote their coin, then they do not pay stake for us. Currently 90% of ICO projects are fraud. So let's be careful about choosing the ICO project to implement the Bounty program.

maybe some of them do things like this, in my experiencce when its time to distribute the coin, my eth address scrambled suddenly so i didnt get the payment and when i complain they didnt answer

Yes they are some instances that they change the rule and implement KYC because they knew that some participants do now want KYC and they have already part of the campaign for weeks, they should be reported for doing such thing, I have campaign that I left because of this KYc

Most of the bounty programs won't cheat users by not paying them at the end of the campaign but normally they would reduce bounty rewards per user if they didn't raise enough money in the ICO. I've seen many bounty campaigns doing this at the end.

Lies always have a place, unfortunately. I came across campaigns that did not pay anything at the end of the Bounty. And I could not help it. Now I come closer to choosing.

I read many complaints on many bounty campaigns, some are postponing the payments over and over again, some giving big moneys to their own guys and more...
I try tobe careful while I'm choosing campaign.

I have not really experienced this anyway, may be that is because I only wear the signature of a particular project I am investing in to at least have more of the tokens, and for the fact that I have done my research on the team not to end up failing on their words, it makes things so easy for me not running into any of them.

I understand I have read a lot of thread with respect to this, but whichever team ends up doing that does not actually want anything good for such project.

You have the sharing experience to let everyone know how to choose better ICOs. I also participated in ICO projects but at the end, they did not pay token for me. I met many of these cases. I am a newcomer, looking forward to your help.

Normally, no reasonable team will even want to do that in the first place except for the ones who generally are just greedy and decided to rubbish those who helped to push the project out there. I have never experienced this anyway which is one of the reasons why it is always necessary for one to do a proper scrutiny as well on which bounty to join, most especially if you are going to be wearing a signature for them.

Had a recent bad experience with this. Removed their name now as I'd rather rise above and not just FUD them.Their argument on Telegram was that they "sold out so quickly" that the bounty campaign they commissioned wasn't necessary.

If a company commissioned a print shop to make a bunch of flyers to promote their sale, and then the products sold out before all the flyers got distributed - would the company still have an obligation to pay the print shop? Obviously, they would. Doesn't seem so different to me, although of course Bounty Hunters trade their time and creativity, rather than a product or money - and generally seem to get shat on by a lot of of the crypto community. If they are so worthless and don't get results - then why do the majority of ICOs dedicate a significant budget to them?

My past experience isn't all the bounty campaign pay full reward when campaign closes some of them simply pay half of aggregate reward or less even ICO achieve their objective target bounty seeker can't do anything simply move to other campaign and discount who is the bounty supervisor don't join her oversee campaign once more.

There are many reasons why they cheat, but mostly is because they have not achieved their objectives and then are not willing to pay the promoters. It seems that in this world it has to be someonelses fault always.

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Yeah, such an act will obviously paint a very bad image about the project and I am sure it has affected so many projects like that in the past. No sane investor in the long run will want to take serious the developers that ended up not paying those that worked for them and I apparently trust the hunters to use the same medium they used in promoting the project to tarnish the image of the project anyway.

I belive this address 0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471 is part of the scam.

My opinion is that it is used in Telegram bounties and that they use dead Bitcointalk accounts to participate.

You can see, for example, scam bounty participants in Tihosay Telegram bounty (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZKD6cG82GvR29_bfA6Q5XWbQ5y4EIhXirQEnwobZBnc/edit#gid=355740863). Open table and go to Telegram tab. Scam members are:
redpumk1n (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325304), with ETH address (https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x580beb2f146f67e21e93cd1c5e3a815c71fe8b76)
btcguys (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357498), with ETH address (https://etherscan.io/address/0xe86d84fc092f30ea3ede0bbf954b14eae3e1dc24#tokentxns)
BeardedCouncil (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345863), with ETH address (https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x9e39d7b1a944607222dfd221fe2a595edece7b66)

You can observe that all three participants sent their tokens to address 0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471.
There are probably much more scam participants in that bounty, but I noticed that three guys by accident.

Bitcointalk accounts redpumk1n and  BeardedCouncil were last active in 2014/2015. I belive scam members are using unactive accounts to participate in telegram bounty.
They probably use bots to apply to Telegram bounty channels, and when tokens from bounty come they send them to address 0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471.

This address has over 50.000$ worth of tokens (https://etherscan.io/address/0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471)!
Also observe how tokens come in "bursts" - here are token transfers (https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x9617292336b588b5bb174c5e845455400d907471). There are over 200 addresses that send their tokens to that address.

Scammers like that take tokens from other bounty participants, and it is no wonder that on some Telegram bounties there have over 10.000 participants. Wonder how much of this are scam participants.

Things like this can be stopped by using "Proof of authentication post" on every Telegram campaign.

In my experience the bounty managers are just as likely to scam you and try to take away your stakes at the end of the campaign.

Look the Official DIW bounty Program ........ ( My bounty campaign  ;D)

Ann Thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2682890.0

Website : https://diwtoken.com/

Is a good project .......It's an honest rewards program and it's paying well.

Unfortunately there is a lot of unfair treatment in this regard. Some bounty hunters don't want to deal with the hassle of KYC but then they do the work and at the end of a few weeks of work the campaign suddenly requires KYC. I have seen this happen to friends and they have been very upset about it. I think terms should stay as advertised, otherwise campaigns are using people unfairly for their promotion labour.

yeah i have exxperienced it several times. They dont want to distribute bounty rewards because they are scared of a dump or sometimes they just do it because they are careless. So pity for participants. and most of the times bounty managers can not do anything as well because they are not part of the project team...

For me cheating bounty programs can make your Project un proven for the best opportunity then less participants plus less opportunity for an investors to invest the project.

In most cases, the money for the bounty of the company is paid. But the case that indeed can not count your participation, or share of for week. Managers can change the rules at the last moment when you do not expect.

This is quite possible. Especially if it's tweeting or facebook campaigns, where the counting of stacks is much more difficult than in the signature campaign. It remains only to count everything yourself or choose campaigns from managers who are trustworthy.

Yes, it is possible, but I don't think it is a good idea. Reputation is everything for a company that raises money and if they hurt their bounty hunters, then all of the bounty hunters can turn against them and ruin their reputation.

as i read the post of this thread about kyc abd passport as requirements before giving rewards, Is it rightful to us bounty hunter? I mean if you require passport then some could be able to get their rewards because some of them are just college students, no work just in the house or bystanders and etc. that are joining bounty campaigns but had no passport. there should have another way in proving identity if it really requires before giving the rewards. for me it is not rightful if this is being prevailed by the bouny managers and they are also worst than a scam ever. Greedy people will mostly not successful.

I'm not sure if the problem actually is the bounty program (run by the devs) rather than the bounty manager or the people who actually manage that specific bounty. I', new here but following several threads I often read complains, looks like people want to make things harder on purpose, like if the tokens were theirs...

Of course, most often all awards are paid. But it was already a habit at the end of the campaign to cut rewards many times and say that the economy of the project has changed. This applies to fairly well-known projects. Apparently a very toad smothers, especially when they collected more money than they wanted

Yea, i think we actually can't do anything about on the passed cheating , we should focus to figure the way out that we could stop cheating on bounty program so people could have a fair reward for their efforts.
And it should applies to every single project than only the big ones.

Yeah we encounter sometimes this kind of ICO or Camp manager that are cheating or not paying the respective stake or tokens into the participants. If they really dont pay or give you the worth of your work you can submit a scam accusations to the team and manager in this very forum so the admins and moderator see what will do in this kind of situations

This is one interesting project. As for me, he is the best and most promising for the rest of Bounty. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3183600.0

This kind of situation rarely occurs. If such a situation is encountered, then it is revealed that more people will know their scam so that they can no longer encrypt the development of the market. They should receive such punishment.

Hopefully this would not happened to me, because I'm a new in this particular business, and this is my second time join a campaign, but as what mentor says, that this campaign that I joined is a trusted one, which the the campaign manager is have a long experience of being a campaign manager with good record services. Because as what my friend says that there are few campaigns which is a form by a group of scammers and cheaters.

Cheaters in bounty programs should be reported to prevent them from doing bad deeds to others. They are destroying the reputations of the legitimate ones. They should realize that the bad things they do will fire back to them. Worst, it could fire back to their loved ones.

Sometimes rules can change at any time to get us excluded from bounty, in any way will be done. I do not like managers like that, better follow the good managers and who are well known by the people in this forum.

Yes, sometime I think this is really the case. When the ICO is almost over, they just shut their ann thread and lock it. I was so unfortunate to have been a victim of this scheme, and even though I did not lost any money but the time I have spent is wasted.

Well it is likely to be true. In that they can intentionally change the rules later so that many hunters will do the wrong thing and at the end you won't get paid, but it is very subjective though! It has happened to many of us on several occasions. Anything can cause a bounty manager to change the rules of the bounty. Sometimes it can even be a directive from the project managers and hence they would have to change the rules.
But one thing we must not forget is that it is always the duty of the bounty hunter to constantly check the bounty thread for any changes made to the campaign. Before we sign up to campaigns we agree that the terms and conditions can be changed and hence we must be checking to see if any changes have been made. So we must do well and be checking frequently for any modification to rules so that we don't blame the managers later for unpaid work

Cheating exist with both bounty campaigns and bounty hunters.  There is serious regulations and measures that cub excesses of bounty hunters and this forum is always doing more to make sure everyone is not cheated

The only place where bounty hunters are pissed when they need to do KYC is in the US where not many have an actual passport. The rest of the world (at least those participating in bounties I assume) do have a passport. I don't get why KYC is such a big deal, it's just one of the rules. I do admit that projects need to mention this specifically up front, or come up with other ways to approve a bounty hunter. True, if work is done, payment must follow suit.

Probably yes, there is no control and we can only trust the honesty and reputation of the managers.

Dev can search your IP, so you do bounty with multiple account can be blocked all of them

It is very common many mangers seems to run out at the time of payment. also, one will observe that many bounties are manged by newbies and Jr. Members which makes the bounty less secure for bounty hunters as they can run anytime if coin is performing not well. I think moderators should also keep an eye on types of bounties which comes at bitcointalk.org.

That's possible. After all, some bounty managers would like to keep tight control over the bounties that they will (or will not) give out. As understandable as it may sound, since they are also entrusting their projects to people they don't know, changing the rules towards the end of a project and kicking people out of their hard earned bounties would also hurt their reputation ten-folds. I haven't experienced that yet and I believe I will not anytime soon.

Most of the times is not really that they don´t want to pay but rather than that they are simply so poorly managed that the community feels they are being cheated.

I once identified a bounty program that added a new rule at the end of the campaign, whatever the purpose, it was suspicious. But I am sure with the manager because previously been analyzed before followed. It all depends on your determination in choosing and checking bounty program that you will follow.

In order not to be deceived during bounty stacks counting, it is better to choose campaigns that are managed by well-known administrators with good reputation. But we must bear in mind that admins only manage daily work and the project organizers dictate the rules.

Not all Bounty campaigns are not totally a cheaters, but some of bounty must be a scammer.  When they not get the final or market price and their target, they need to do a second bounty but some campaigns must do get money because it is only cents or too low.

Do you know about Envion bounty? Envion bounty has ended for months but there are no information about bounty distribution from Envion dev team and their telegram group even don't have any admin or they don't even care about it cause they already got a lot of money from investors and they can scam if they want to :))

we've been through this many times, so many projects don't want to pay after they've raised a lot of money.

One thing I really hate is when a campaign finish before end of bounty because of ICO has reached HARDCAP and bounty manager decide to reduce % of bounty for that reason..that's not fair...

Some bounty programs require participants to be KYC at the end of the program, which is really suspicious because they may request to do KYC before starting the program so that those who do not qualify will no longer participate. Asking KYC at the end of the program who did not pass KYC, what their coin would do when they could not divide the other hunters!

Things like that are disadvantageous,
but if we are really honest then of course we also will not have problems when filling KYC form.

Hmm yes it is possible that there are occurrences wherein others neglect the bounty and do not reward the bounty hunter, this is saddening but also one of the biggest reasons why people neglect to join bounty programs, though it is worth a shot, just avoid for unnecessary things that the bounty needs from you, it can also be identified as a scam.

Unfortunately, there are so many projects that turn into a scam. Their goal is just to raise money and that's all. Even if you eventually get tokens, then you will never be able to exchange them. I hope the situation will change in the future and we will have rules that will protect investors and bounty hunters from scam ICOs.

Unfortunately, now this happens almost with every project in which I participate. Moreover, the company manager can change the rules in the middle of the company and not even notify the participants, therefore, the procedure for passing KYC is also not a pleasant condition, although at the beginning of the company nothing was said about it. But these are the realities of the cryptocurrency market and we have to work with it or not work with them at all!

Of course I also do not like that you need to pass KYC. But this is not the worst, if the company is good, and you can do. Most of all, I do not like when very often change the conditions and put a strict time frame, thereby people lose their bets. Where do they go afterwards? Interesting question.. ))

When you join a bounty campaign, you was accepted terms and conditions, rules which they required. And they always have the right to change that any time, so yes we can't complaint about that  ;D

Yes, it happens. I was in situation when  bounty campaigns changed the rules almost in the end of the campaign to have KYC. Unfortunately, there are so many scam projects nowadays. Hope it will be changed somehow to protect investors from loosing money. And know only our skills and knowledgr can be used to avoid it

I've been participated in many Bounty campaigns and some campaigns were not honest with the participants. Some of them cutted the Bounty pool, changed the Bounty allocation or never paid at all. It is great such campaigns are met seldom.

there are too many cheaters with the bounty program.
this is why we have campaign mANagers.
to prevent cheaters.
if they can't control it then. they are useless.

Truly there are few people who are taking advantage to the holes of the system,but we shouldnt be doing this because cheating shouldnt be tolerated in the forum.

Unfortunately, I worked with such managers, and more than once. At the end of the campaign, which lasted several months, I received $5-10. I dont know why do these managers continue to work..

Watch the KYC at the end bounties.  They get you all nice and juiced up for your reward.  You did all the hard work then they ask for the real prize. Your passport.  You may end up doing the work, not getting paid and then have your passport or national ID sold on the dark web. 

Yes of course there are many cheaters in bounty programs, there are some people with multiple accounts and some self do use bit for telegram campaign.

There are also such cases. It happens when the end of the bounty program requires the passage of the procedure KYC, or you did not fulfill the required conditions.

yeah , thats true.
but , the manager must be smart to prevent the cheaters , some manager dont care about their bounty participants have duplicate account or not , because checking the bounty participants cheating or not is hard , the bounty manager must checking them 1 by 1.
seems bounty manager take alot project and make their busy for checking their bounty participants cheating/not.

and also some of us that have been work here we should always look for some cheaters here and report it to moderator we should avoid and not to be long stay on bounty for this some of the cheaters in bounty campaign.

This is a crime we deserve in the world of Bitcoin specifically for those who cheat in bounty programs. And I am sure that those who behave so in the bounty program will get punishment from god either sooner or later. It also reflects that irresponsible human characteristics.

This topic has been on my mind to express before this time. Thank you starting it. Yes, many bounty managers are very tricky. They wait to display their ugly character at the end of the campaign.

I find it really disgusting whenever a case of cheating is brought up, i see it as a lack of basic moral upbringing. Why direct so much efforts to cheating when you can direct same to submitting your work right. If i am a Bounty manager all cheaters will be banned straightway.

It happens that ICO earns at least a soft cap, and the developers no longer communicate with the manager of the bounty. The project site is working and, possibly, there project is develops. I participated in several such projects.

Some bounty programs are cheat, fake and scam. They tend to dupe the bounty hunters of their rewards after they have achieved their goals and objectives. While some do not meet up with their soft cap.  Digitizecoin is just an example who doesn't meet with soft cap and therefore returned the money of its investors.

the cheating here in this platform cuts accross the managers and bounty hunters, we experience it on daily bases, we see unscrupulous  elements take undue advantage of the decentralized nature of the market to cheat on unsuspecting investor and this we all must jointly condem in strong terms and not condole.

This is actually a worst case. Investors will get their money back if the soft cap isn't met. But bounty hunters lost hours of hardwork with no payment. If anyone participated in a signature campaign like that then it would have been a nightmare.

This is very disappointing when you do work for 1-2 months, and you do not get paid. How to avoid this? Probably not at all, even if you carefully choose the campaign for work.
Just need to continue to work with other bounty campaigns.

There is also a campaign gift of cheating as the Manager did not fully pay salaries for participants. Of course the participants very aggrieved because they were working on a project takes 2-3 month Fund ICO is completed. Strongly feels that the results of their hard work are just wasted.

in my experience, about 30% Bounty find reasons not to pay for the work done.

Good grief, that's crazy that they will go that low.

honestly speaking, I heard and read about it in various topics, but I still have not had my own experience, and I hope that such experience will not happen to me and I do not want others)

Yesterday I wanted to register in the bounty Telegram company. But When I checked the spreadsheet the bounty, I found that another person was already registered there under my login the Telegram.

Also there people registered every 30 seconds and there were about 10,000 person in the spreadsheet. I think, there are more than half it is cheaters and bots!

We can not deny that the scam exists, and it's annoying when it suddenly changes the rules that are burdensome for the bounty hunter. The project team and the bounty manager in charge of it are also just off hand immediately, back again how we choose a good project. Bounty with benefits and a good team is still there, hopefully we always get something like this

I also heard about such a method of deception when the manager pays bounty hunters very little coins and simply puts himself in a wallet. I think that such managers need to be avoided and punish.

some of them, of course,
i attempted in repux token bounty program with 700K value
but at the end, they only distributed 50K
weak teams do weak

Hi, I saw some post about bounty not paying, for sure it exists, after do they any excuse not to pay is also probable like airbnb got a lot of excuses not to repay you for damages

I think the most safest and smartest think they can do this just pay the users because why not people are investing that time and internet on their experiments and they replying back by scanning others by changing the rules are not paying for their work. I had got some reports that some bounty camps are  cheating and I will mark them read trust as soon as I find one.

I have never had that experience personally, but if you're worried about cheating in bounties, try taking part in bounties with reliable and trustworthy managers.

This people are well known and you can easily find a list of them in the forum.  ;)

As soon as bounty programs start changing rules after they have finish raising their funds through ICO, then they start changing rules like KYC and other unnecessary verification.

Even the projects who don't bring out any further requirements for the bounty participants to perform, outrightly still don't pay bounty hunters. It's just unfortunate that bounty hunting don't have a community or a body that they can be represented through.

I think such projects just want to save money/coins using a free advertising. Of course this is not fair, but there is nothing to be done about it. I am absolutely sure that the project that tries to cheat will never be successful because they ruin their reputation at the initial stage

How does having reliable and trustworthy managers have anything to do with the cheating that goes on in a bounty campaign. Clearly you haven't even checked how it works otherwise you wouldn't say something so completely ridiculous. Unless they have a custom system that automatically tracks applicants based on IP address or some other metric, cheating will always be a problem.

I always check the spreadsheets of my bounty campaigns for duplicate records, as there're so many cheaters nowadays that use your account to get free money. And in the worth scenario you can be banned from bounty campaign if a manager finds your duplicate record.

Actually, the hardest thing for a bounty participants to experience is that if they will not get their payouts, there are bounty campaigns today who are not paying their participants if they did not give their kyc authentication but it was very obvious that they only want to scam their own participants.

There may be some mistakes in spreadsheet - but it is obvious, thing like that could happen.
If Team does not want to pay you for bounty work, they are scammmers. It doesn't matter to me if they scam distributing tokens either for ICO participants or bounty hunters. Cheating is cheating and it is the thing I really hate.

I don't think KYC can stop them (cheaters), because i think maybe they can get KYC documents easily from family or dark web.
but in my opinion this KYC verification can minimize and reduce the cheating of bounty project

I often see cheating on the gift of social media such as twitter and facebook. Many participants were crossed out by a Manager from the list of spreadsheets since they proved to many users of the account. This is thanks to the thoroughness of a Manager in checking for participants to join.

 bounty participants to experience is that if they will not get their payout
many people that do bounty are scammer on a spreadsheet you will see many names and check the telegram forum you will find out is view people on telegram forum some name will appear several time

There are campaigns like that in which at the end of their campiagn, they are requiring you to do another tasks before they give tokens. That is called delaying tactics because they simply not ready to distribute the tokens. Some also changed the rules at the end by requiring us to do KYC, etc.

In my opinion i didn't see any examples yet but i remember storiqa bounty program looks suspicious, they said 3% of funds to bounty initially but they allocated very less according to tokensale results. And more suspicious thing as no one see the spreadsheet as it never open after allocation.

It is really the worst part and even now i start getting spam mails to some of the air drops i joined and there are instances where someone is using my mail ID to sign into airdrops and the reason i know is that i am getting mail that i am expected in some drops which i have not even enrolled, i am not sure how to stop these abuses, either i have to contact those teams which is a headache as i am getting more joining mails on a daily basis now and with the KYC too these abuses will happen when you submit to scam projects.

Yes, a lot of bounty programs are worthless that makes many participants wasting their time and effort to make a project success, managers don't even think how painful we felt upon knowing that we are not receiving as what they promised from the start of the campaign.

I do not think that most of them want to deceive anyone. They simply reduce the possible risks of problems with government bodies. For them, investors are more important than bounty hunters who do not invest a single penny of money. If a hunter does not have documents due to age, he can always ask older friends or parents to pass verification instead of him. But i'm total agree that KYC should be announced since the start of the campaign.

No, they are just bounty manager they can't control what the clients want to do in their campaign changing of allocation sometimes is decision of the owner of the project and they are basing sometimes on how much they raise funds on their campaign, and if you didn't paid on your campaign because the owner is run away don't blame the bounty manager because they are just the front and not the owner of the project.

I find it really disgusting whenever a case of cheating is brought up, i see it as a lack of basic moral upbringing. Why direct so much efforts to cheating when you can direct same to submitting your work right. If i am a Bounty manager all cheaters will be banned straightway.

I have also faced scams in bounty programs. Last of the scam bounty was saying that "We dont want to cope with stakes and reports. Whoever joins Twitter campaign wins 50 $ and whoever joins Facebook wins 100$" I thought it may be scam but I said that I dont lose anything. Today I checked it and saqw that the bounty page was gone. There are much more scam bounties these days.

This kind of situation rarely occurs. If such a situation is encountered, then it is revealed that more people will know their scam so that they can no longer encrypt the development of the market. They should receive such punishment.

I don't think so, because the spreadsheet is open.
So people can see real data from spreadsheets.

The ICOs that has bounty program but dont want to pay their hunters are those projects who would like to market their products for free. The Bounty Managers cannot force them to pay the hunters because they too have been cheated by the project itself. So it is the ICO itself that are the cheaters. and as a bounty hunter we should be diligent enough to research on those projects before joining their bounty campaign so that our time and effort would not be wasted.

Possible, I experienced it. They just used peoples' effort then after the ICO end you can no longer search their thread,they GONE and it is so disappointing. You give your full trust on that ICO but ended up nothing.

Yes, of course, a lot of bounty programs are cheating and not responsible to the participants. Bounty participants have been very diligent in promoting the bounty project, then the results obtained by the participants is just a disappointment. Hopefully, the future will be reduced bounty scam program.

Not all of the bounty campaigns do this but I would be lying if I said that there are not bounty campaigns out there who do this. They take advantage of bounty hunters and use them to promote their coins and projects and when it comes to time to pay them the reward that are due to them, they start to delay it and give different excuses until the bounty hunters tire of them and move on.

Yes they`re going to cheat because their achieving goal is not reached ,and also there`s some bounty that the only intension is to scamm, but good is there still honest and trustful bounty ,to prevent scam bounty be sure that you have knowldege about reading and observing on thier project.

I see always new scam program news and I think this is getting a serious probem. I hope we can see just good news about the new programs, but unfortunately this is getting more impossible gradually.

If the ICO project collected a large amount of money, or just the amount that it needed, then it makes no sense not to pay. Most likely, if you are not paid the bounty of the company, then you participated in the Scam.

I think that happends a lot in the last time. And the problem is, it will become normal. ANd we as the bounty hunter we can nothing do against these. SO they always write that they have the right to change the bouny rules. And what you wanna do when they change it? Cancel your participations and loose all your stakes you worked the weeks before? So its like we can nothing do against this. Expect just to participaiting in bounty campaigns with trustfull bounty managers!

Bounty hunters need to know the manager, there are few good managers which will pay you well! There are a lot of bounty developers who do not pay at the end of the campaign.

Managers do not really bother. Also for projects managers mostly do not matter that part of the pool of bounty goes to scammers.

It's a bit a painful experience, I mean after the rigorous stress gone through during bounty still some bounty campaigns refuse to pay participants. Well,  there may be a lot of reasons associated mainly to when such project doesn't achieve their set down goal, so they find it difficult to fulfil their promises and fold up.

I think that happens in some bounty programs, where participants, after completing the who campaign, now bring up KYC in order to so many from getting their tokens. This is not fair on the side of those projects. These rules should always be stated at the beginning of the campaigns, so that those who cannot comply can quick look for another campaign to participate in.

This is true, bounty campaigns with fake and scam were wasting our time and they don't care how much time and effort to make our job done well. Using fake campaigns and scammy one, they already wasted their time.

Participating in bounty campaigns without reward? Yeah, it happened few times but this really goes down to inability of such projects to achieve their goals before going into the whole process, this makes it hard to fulfil their promised percentage of the whole profit made.

I don't encountered yet. Because if they have changes in the rules, they will inform it also in the telegram. So, all will be updated on what's new. Only I encountered in bounty was the "SCAM". Be careful to the scammer. But definitely, we can't tell if the said project / bounty manager are scammers.

That is why before jumping on any bounty, I really put in consideration who the bounty manager is. I like to do bounties with reputable bounty managers that are fair and honest.

The sad thing is that this situation happens a lot in the cryptocurrencies market. There are a lot of bounties due to the lack of control that leads to their scam and not paying the token to the bounty participant. Typically it's the Envion project, it's been 4 months that the admin team has not taken any action for rewarding members. It was a terrible act, not respect for the community. I hope 2019 will have a mechanism to control and eliminate if the ICO project fraud.

if there are companies that are not good and cheats in the bounty they spend then it is a bad advertisement for their project and surely they will not want to take that risk

yes I see some of them are not paying the participants who have supported their project to succeed, for that I always check and cautious before joining bounty because I don't want to work in vain because it just wasting time and I hope there will be new rules This forum in order to reduce bounty scam

That's certainly correct, in this way we can have some guarantee that we are in good hands. Additionally, there are times that some of their ICOs being handled were not successful but at least they will notify the hunters. And we can't really avoid such circumstances that there are times that they really cheated and we can't do nothing but to accept it.

Sometimes other things are out of our control and as much as we would like to avoid these to happen we really don't have any option to check whether this bounty is a scam or not unless we tried it. And yes I agree with you I'm hopeful that there will be some rules and set of securities and regulations as well inorder for these people not to continue doing scams.

that is already a common problem for bounty ico campaigns and so far the forum has not yet implemented a new rules in order to lessen the scammers. Mods and dt members can only give them a negative trust which is i think really helpful enough . I hope that admins will soon revised some rules that will greatly re strain those ico's. a small fee or a kyc verification might be a good idea to be required before a bounty can start their own campaign. On that way , we are fully sure that they are legit.

In fact, once the bounty hunter has deceived the bounty manager, it will be marked by the DT members. But once the bounty managers have deceived the bounty hunters, they have not received any punishment，I think the DT members are biased towards them in this respect.

I have experience it not once but many times. I have high hopes when the bounty program ends it will pay in 2-3 weeks but not all of it really pays. If you havent receive any rewards on a long period of waiting, maybe you entered the wrong eth receiving address that cause to send the tokens to other users not on you. When you inputted the correct address make sure to pm the bounty manager about it. If no replies receive you can put negative trust on him/her.

That is possible because they know that many people involved in the campaign can not meet their KYC. So they did it to take over the money that the participants earned.
But there are some management teams that work very seriously. Team Amazix is a typical. They always announce the conditions required to receive bonuses after the end of the project. So I think before joining any project, ask the manager for the necessary information.

I took a part in successful campaigns so far and I do not have a bad experience with bounty managers. Anyway, I am aware of this particular problem. Dishonest bounty managers do not pay participants or they simply do not give them stakes and ignore their frustrated comments. What can we do? Well, just give them negative trust and they will not be able to run other campaigns in the future. The most of serious projects use services of well-known managers though, so we do not have to worry if we join them.

I have not yet encountered changes in the rules of the campaign in the course of its passage. There have been cases when tokens were recalculated, but this usually happened in favor of the community.

yes and i want to believe the cheating was pre-planned, it wouldn't just happened. after reaching their desired caps in order to keep all to themselves they will come up with excuses and task that is impossible for bounty hunters to fulfill and at the end use this a yardstick for non-payment. i have experienced it several times. and if at all they decide to pay. the token will be too small to use for anything. meaning it is useless

There are really projects that are scam and others that even being reliable postpone to the maximum the payment of bounties. But it's part of the business and we will not always be successful on the bounties.

Saying that they do not what to pay is wrong, they can not pay because they could not raise that much initial funds. It's not always scam but most of the time failure.

 Its unfortunate but it happens, the bounty mangers these days come up with silly rules to be met for rewards to be issued yet the bounty hunters worked tirelessly hard to earn these tokens, its unfortunate these things happen these days yet there is Little that can be done about them, its  the bounty hunters energy time and investment that goes to waste in the long run yet some of the managers reap from it, its very unfortunate, something should be done about this

Right now the most common way of cheating from bounty campaigns is that at the beginning they do not disclose the fact that they will require that you identify yourself and go through know your customer policies, this means that at the end people will have to choose to either give their documents away or forfeit all the work they have done for the bounty campaign, and to me that is a very dirty move.

In fact, this is a large obex of those who do not pay hunters because this work is not appreciated.

I've heard of bounty programmes where this has happened but never encountered it so not sure how often it occurs. Seems simply way to prevent it in future is with some sort of holding system where tokens are distributed and criteria is independently reviewed by the platform.

    I've already experienced joining bounty program and at the end they didn't pay the bounty participants. Another one at the beginning of the campaign the rules are clear that's why many hunters participated but after bounty program finished they changed the rules when they start distributing the tokens for their members. Members not received the amount stated at the beginning of the program. I think we can't avoid those things to happen because the program manager is the one who rule over it. We are lucky if the manager in the program we joined is good,honest,responsible and not cheating the budget for the participants.

This things happens nowadays. In my cases there are lowkey scams happening like you thought the project will work out but after the ICO.
The price value of the coin is a trash and it'll be the constant price. Some of them listing it on a exchange site with a low volume.

The bounty of the company do not cheat. If you were deceived, it was done by the creators of the ICO project, but this does not apply to the bounty of the company. Bounty company engaged managers, which makes no sense to steal your tokens.

I think that it exist a minority of projects that are cheating, i have participate in a project i don't went to say the name they don't give us any thing i was disappointed from that because i participate for 6 months and after this long time i don't get anything, but it's not the case of all the projects it exist the good one.

I ever, have not paid according to my work in the spreadsheet and this is whether cheating is done by the gift manager or done by the company developer
because I do not know who distributes tokens when a bounty program is done

gift managers who do not pay or cheat by cutting the allocation of funds to participants usually do not include token allocations for participants,
and at the end of the campaign, the amount received is a bit unsuitable for the work we do.
even working for nearly six months,

Yes, I think sometimes the scam is perfected by the companies. At other times, the campaign managers do this so as to garner more profit to themselves by withholding what should be paid out.

There are some bounty campaign managers are doing the trick of joining their alt accounts on the campaigns they managed and then they put some strict rules and guidelines so that some members will be expelled out while the end of the campaign is ending. So the bounty stake will become higher.
I don't know, seems to be true.
It's only my opinion and I do hope some members will find it real.

have a nice days everyone  ;D ;D

This is very rampant with bounties that are not so strong or untrue with their ideas. They change the rule of the game as soon as they see that many participants are making real progress with their task and they know they will not be able to reward every participant, then they find excuses or even disqualify some participant because they do no want to loss. They should always state all necessary conditions before hunters begin to join the campaign as this would make them aware of the conditions and be sure to participate and get reward not completing a task and then you give an excuse.

You should be careful. Just like in daily life there is also people who want to make their works for free. But in this forum I haven't found anyone that cheats so far.

Most of the bounty programs won't cheat users by not paying them at the end of the campaign but normally they would reduce bounty rewards per user if they didn't raise enough money in the ICO. I've seen many bounty campaigns doing this at the end.

This is why I don't really choose up those Bounty Programs that do have 3-4% on overall supply or do have claims  2m-4m in usd rewards because chances of these kind of bounties turns out to be scam in the end if not then high tendency that they would changed allocation percentage in the end which it turns out to be a deceiving move made by them. Worst case on here is that some of them now do announce or ask KYC in the end of the campaign for its bounty hunters. Wtf?

Sometime it will happen in Bounty campaign because once they become familiar they will start reducing the pool which allocated to the bounty. These type of thing happen many times in the bounty, they have the right to change the allocated pool anytime they want.

I made a spreadsheet of the last bounties from managers, the interaction with which was positive and successful:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B4sMp4rDeYjPn3Lkbxn6Ot5KLQFERPXloIl5lUbTVBg/edit?usp=sharing

The table will be update, it will be possible to follow the appearance of new companies from these managers and to fit into the project on time.
I think it can be useful to many people, I personally did not have enough of this information in due time.
Use with pleasure!
Good luck in the projects!


If you consider it necessary to add managers or what information, write.

Russian topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3051197.0

They are cheating because of the reason you have said. They are offering new rules that will say something different, or they even can low down the price. Or, they are afraid of that someone is cheating on them.

if I think it's a natural thing because they have tried as much as possible to achieve it, but concept of the team may not attract the attention of investors so that investors do not join and the bounty was not paid because the project is less demanded

I dont want to tell the name of campaign now, but one ico in which i participated in bounty start to tell that most of posts and reposts of participants are low quality etc. But stakes were given, why they gave stakes for low quality work? As i see they just dont want to pay. I feel the smell of cheating, but we'll see.

Yes it will happen sometimes but most bounty programs paid their applicants according to their effort and honesty in working during the campaign period.

That is a tough question, because it is stupid to lie to people if you want to get your tokens into masses. Their reputation will be affected so badly, or that is just scam.

There are many projects that have a bounty scam! Under their rules we wear their heads and signatures. Hard work for them, but they always delay the bounty of the table update, and then in the absence of notice, change the rules, only after bargaining with them will recalculate. For this kind of behavior, we can only stop to negotiate this step, there is no other way! I hope someone can come up with a post on BBS to report on these fraudulent projects.

If something like that happens to you then open a scam accusation against the developers of that coin, if they promise to give you a certain amount of tokens under certain rules and then at the end they change everything you have some grounds to open an accusation against them, after all that is very unethical because they got all of that advertising and now they do not want to pay.

There are some bounties who are only after the ICO money they gather and just focus on the investors investing on their project, and if they think it is not enough they then will not pay the people helping them spread the ICO which are the bounty hunters joining campaigns. And this had happened a lot of times already or sometimes they just disappear and never hear anything from them again.

Actually sometimes I think about this.
Like the bounty managers that ask KYC, sometimes they ask. Passport for the KYC,  and how if we don't have passport??
Or sometimes I think,  How if the bounty manager cut the pay? How do we know??  Like an issue that I've heard about a bounty campaign, The developer team told to the bounty participant, that they provide 12% of total token sold, while the BM says only 5% have provided.
But,  what can we do ???  ??? ???

Yeah we encounter sometimes this kind of ICO or Camp manager that are cheating or not paying the respective stake or tokens into the participants. If they really dont pay or give you the worth of your work you can submit a scam accusations to the team and manager in this very forum so the admins and moderator see what will do in this kind of situations

I did not get anything like that. But need time to get the bounty rewards. After 1-2 months of ending a Bounty program, the rewards will be given. But who does not? After the ICO and they scam, Normally  they will not give  you rewards. Hope you got your answer

 We all know that there is a wide margin of uncertainty in everything that refers to ICOs, and there is no written contract that guarantees us any rights with respect to the bounty programs. In fact, there are several possibilities against us:

 1) The ICO is a success, but do not grant the tokens to the bounty hunters.

2) The ICO fails and grant tokens without any value.

3) The ICO is successful, but change the rules of the bounty program, which complicates that the majority of the participants receive the promised tokens.

And in these three cases I have already had bad experiences.

I do not think so, if they do not reach softcap yes reasonable if we are not in pay. because even if we are paid then the ico team will not issue its tokens in the market so it will be futile also though we are paid with their tokens if ico failed.

As the Most ICOs are very bad projects, a lot of them are scams and some are interesting. You can't decide, unless the project owners issue the bounty tokens among the bounty participants. It's completely owner choice, just travel out the forum, you get more ideas how bounty hunters were cheated even a project reached their max cap.

yes you are right i also think like that many bounty programs do not give gifts to the bounty hunter. this may be a fraudulent gift of his project and the creator is not responsible for the project he is making. this is very annoying just a waste of time only. I hope this kind of gift is no longer in the forum so the prize hunter is not disappointed with your project.

Mostly are cheating for the bounty program. They not pay you after the bounty campaign. The bounty manager is one of the responsible for this matter, they didn't pay the participants

It is because we are choosing the fake ICO, that's why many people are suggesting the before joining in any ICO bounty better we have to research the team and total supply they allocated to the bounty. We have to check whether who is managing the marketing community rewards because sometimes it is based on the Manager also.

Good bounty programs are required to publish all requests and rules before joining. Many bounty requests are KYC but after the end of the program so after finishing those non-KYC will not get token. And I do not know what they would do with those tokens.

 There are lots of bounty programs I have seen not paying the hunters or reducing the amount of tokens from the bounty pool. They were successful in ICO but not really an achiever like got the hard cap. The team shouldn't be afraid of the token being dumped after all they can buy back the cheaper tokens and thats where those funds they got would be useful.

Yes, you are right most of the companies are doing the same thing because some bounty manager is not responsible for payments because they will do the work on the basis of an agreement till the crowdsale end. Most of the questions we have to divert to team members only regarding bounties.

This phenomenon is ubiquitous.So we have to pay attention to those managers when we choose the bounty.Only in this way can we get what we deserve.

Because of being decentralized some bounty managers can cheat the campaign by not correctly pay those striving hard bounty hunters, they must think that bounty hunters are spending useful time just for the campaign and they should realized that we deserved and have the right to be payed.

We really dont know what’s going on between the campaign manager and the one who gives out the budget for the bounty campaigns. But yes I do think there are some who promises to pay the bounty hunters and nothing comes out as a reward.

I think cheating is also popular in bounty programs, just we dont know how they do that. Someone doing with help programs, it can be enabled automatically tweets, retweets, like,...

To get bounty it will always take some time to distribute but the problem even though sometimes they reach the hard cap they won't bother about the people who took a chance to promote the ICO, this one we already faced many times.

Nowadays I've experienced that Managers mentioned in the rule, he/she will not be responsible Token Distribution. Bounty Manager Have no control over any Funds. In case anyhow Project Owners come out as cheaters you don't get any stakes.

for sure, I've seen it many times before

There also are such cases. It occurs while the end of the bounty software calls for the passage of the procedure KYC, or you did not satisfy the specified situations.

I agree with this, there are lots of tokens dump after the distribution of airdrop and bounty and I think it's natural because they want to quickly sell tokens from their work, but if the team and owner token can think clearly where the average percentage of airdrops and tokens is no more than 5 % of total tokens, this dump will be temporary, especially if they want to buy back tokens from the market when there is a dump, when everything is finished selling the price will rise drastically because the community and the market have been formed

Some managers set that rules because they didnt hold the funds for the campaign but that will only happen on a bounty altcoin/ico campaigns because the payout is in tokens and it should always be distributed after then end of the ico , since ico needs to do a crowdfund to collect a lot of money from investors and if ever they failed to meet their quota , there is also a chance that they will suspend their project resulting for their bounty participants to not get paid .

Well, these depends on the kind of bounty that you participate in and the team members because they can make decision at anytime, it might necessarily not be because they do not want to pay but before you take part in any campaign, I will suggest you take your time to do a very good research of the projects and go through the rules and regulations before you join.