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Title: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on October 14, 2013, 09:05:38 AM
He's gotta be asn't he? Never gets back to me for some reason, I don't think he likes it when someone as been right for 12 months acussing him of what he actually his! A pro con man!

DONT TRUST THIS BFL DICK SPANNER WITH ANYTHING! HE WILL ROB A GRANNY FOR HIS AVIATION FUEL!

Come on INABA (BFL JOSH), EXPLAIN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THERE DEVICES HOW THEY WILL GET ROI OR EVEN SEE THERE PRODUCT?

EXPLAIN HOW YOU ARE GOING HAVE THE MONARCH READY?

He can't by the way! He's a low life scum bag! My single as been put up as an auniment cause KnC delivered LAST WEEK :D

Remember that INABA - KnC WONT DELIVER ON TIME YOU SAID! YOU FUCKING MORON! ONLY PEOPLE NOT DELIEVERING ON TIME IS BFL!

GOE SUCK SOME COCK FOR ROCK YOU ROBBING ZIONIST!



Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Unacceptable on October 14, 2013, 09:10:32 AM
Someone's going the right way for a "forced refund"  :D

No need to bring racism into this,please  ::)

Yes,BFL & "The Josh" are lyeing P.O.S's.They will be wrong on thier power estimates by a power of 3 & won't deliver the majority,over 75% of Monarchs till 2nd quarter 2014  :D


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Paladin69 on October 14, 2013, 09:11:39 AM
lol

Next difficulty stop = 270 million.  Get your refunds with your respective hardware choices if you can.  The best thing the OP could hope for is a forced refund at this point.

The Monarch won't exist.  The hashing farm might...it will be with hardware from other companies.  $11 per GH will feel like rape by Jan/Feb when they finally get something going.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 14, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
TRUST... everyone who hasn't already should burn his trust rating.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198

Then link everyone together so that everyone in Bitcointalk will see his true nature.


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ionstorm 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-08-26   25.00000000   

This guy says he is gonna ship all backorder product within 90 days,
doesnt keep his word, any delays in selling mining hardware should be considered theft.
Also this BFL employee has been hostile to customers in the past.
Stay away from BFL until they are able to ship a product when they say they will.
DO NOT TRUST!

JackRabiit 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-08-22   1.20000000      

Guy just Wont tell the truth, Month after month he changed his BFL ad banners image
(total of about seven times the changed the image) to say
"PRODUCTS ARE IN FINAL STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT!, PRE-ORDER NOW!, SHIPPING NEXT MONTH"

Let me repeat myself, For SEVEN MONTHS he kept Altering and Replacing his incorrect ad with a
new, just as incorrect ad.

He deliberatly used FALSE ADVERTISING to con people into buying Vaporware

jordaninthesky 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-07-24   100.00000000   

Person is helping lead a ponzi scheme (as COO) and defrauding many out of BTC
investments by offering less than value $ back in terms of refund. Exploits every
angle he can. Forced a refund on me after 10 months of waiting at original price,
after doubling prices

TomUnderSea 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-06-21   0.00000000      

Represents BFL. Badly.

kakobrekla 0: -0 / +1(1)   2013-06-20   0.00000000      

Butt Fucking Labs

Xian01 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-05-22   300.00000000   

Taunts Bitcointalk forum members. I call him on his shit in an
incendiary fashion. He tells Jody to cancel my orders
(#s 2030, 2158 & 100033486). Check posting history.

Viceroy 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-05-21   0.00000000

This person works for and represents in these forums a company who was founded
by a convicted mail fraudster. Please follow this link for more information about the
company represented by this person here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.640


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 14, 2013, 10:47:39 AM
Come on INABA (BFL JOSH), EXPLAIN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THERE DEVICES HOW THEY WILL GET ROI OR EVEN SEE THERE PRODUCT?

Well, I'm very reluctant to try and be fair to Josh for obvious reasons, BUT neither Josh nor anyone else at BFL has ever promised anyone they'll break even. So at least in that regards he's not a liar and customers have only themselves to blame for buying from a gaggle of hacks and quacks that have never even seen a chip produced before trying to engineer (and I use that term loosely) an ASIC.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 14, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
More than a CAVEAT EMPTOR situation now don't you think given the MILLIONS in refunds that were denied to customers contrary to FTC regulations? Guys pretty much the face of BFL and a scum bag... people should lay most of the blame at his feet for the situation given when people finally woke up they requested refunds and were denied.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 <--- Trash his trust rating.


I believe he is Greek Orthodox not a Zionist and neither have to do with his ability or inability to be a scum bag.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on October 14, 2013, 06:03:21 PM
Ha, I got a response from inaba

Re: (No subject)

If you're going to insult someone, at least learn to spell.  If you can't spell you just look like an idiot

Gotta love how he swerves the subject and tries to make the other look a fool. He's darn good at his job!

Don't want to come fight your corner josh? I'm all hears <---- get it?

Still keeping his scams up and running though. I can't believe people trust this dude with a pool!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.new#new


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 14, 2013, 06:23:24 PM
BUT neither Josh nor anyone else at BFL has ever promised anyone they'll break even. So at least in that regards he's not a liar and customers have only themselves to blame...
Customers don't get promises, they get products or services DELIVERED! That is what CUSTOMERS pay for! You obviously treat BFL's customers as investors but without the rights investors have?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: btceic on October 14, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
He's gotta be asn't he? Never gets back to me for some reason, I don't think he likes it when someone as been right for 12 months acussing him of what he actually his! A pro con man!

DONT TRUST THIS BFL DICK SPANNER WITH ANYTHING! HE WILL ROB A GRANNY FOR HIS AVIATION FUEL!

Come on INABA (BFL JOSH), EXPLAIN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THERE DEVICES HOW THEY WILL GET ROI OR EVEN SEE THERE PRODUCT?

EXPLAIN HOW YOU ARE GOING HAVE THE MONARCH READY?

He can't by the way! He's a low life scum bag! My single as been put up as an auniment cause KnC delivered LAST WEEK :D

Remember that INABA - KnC WONT DELIVER ON TIME YOU SAID! YOU FUCKING MORON! ONLY PEOPLE NOT DELIEVERING ON TIME IS BFL!

GOE SUCK SOME COCK FOR ROCK YOU ROBBING ZIONIST!



Fuck you for the racist comment


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 14, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
Oh dear. Never mind, I'm sure the opportunity will present itself to upgrade to Monarch II. Just send $xxxx amount to .........




Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: bronan on October 14, 2013, 06:34:25 PM
I am sorry
But i really really never trusted that guy, yes i have mined at his pool long time ago.
Even back then he was a BIG ASSHOLE asnwering emails and support questions
Thats why i left that nasty persons pool, the fact that people use that pool is beyond me
In my view its the biggest mistake people can make, that guy earns easy money over your backs.
I am not going to insult the ones using the pool, i just feel sorry for them.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 15, 2013, 03:45:11 AM
Ha, I got a response from inaba

Re: (No subject)

If you're going to insult someone, at least learn to spell.  If you can't spell you just look like an idiot

Gotta love how he swerves the subject and tries to make the other look a fool. He's darn good at his job!

Don't want to come fight your corner josh? I'm all hears <---- get it?

Still keeping his scams up and running though. I can't believe people trust this dude with a pool!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.new#new

I have used his pool for years with out issue.

Too bad we are talking about the huge numbers of people not happy with what has transpired with BFL. One person may have had 0 issues but what about the millions of dollars tied up when people are clearly within their legal rights to ask for a refund and are rebuked? One can not equate his pool operations at this time with his ineptitude with BFL and the fact he has failed to refund people in direct contravention of FTC regulations.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Wipeout2097 on October 15, 2013, 03:55:36 AM
You guys are all talk and no action. So denying refunds is against FTC regulations, so you know where BFL is, but you do nothing!


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: MooC Tals on October 15, 2013, 03:55:49 AM
Come on INABA (BFL JOSH), EXPLAIN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THERE DEVICES HOW THEY WILL GET ROI OR EVEN SEE THERE PRODUCT?

Well, I'm very reluctant to try and be fair to Josh for obvious reasons, BUT neither Josh nor anyone else at BFL has ever promised anyone they'll break even. So at least in that regards he's not a liar and customers have only themselves to blame for buying from a gaggle of hacks and quacks that have never even seen a chip produced before trying to engineer (and I use that term loosely) an ASIC.

Oh so the advertising that said it will be ready in Oct/Nov of 2012 was my stupidity right?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 15, 2013, 05:54:27 AM
You guys are all talk and no action. So denying refunds is against FTC regulations, so you know where BFL is, but you do nothing!

I never bought anything from BFL nor would I ever.

The point isn't about action or inaction it is about being the BIGGEST SCUM BAG on the forums. Given the evidence I suspect there is clearly a solid foundation for Inaba to be given that title. I suspect most would agree given the polls done before and his more recent activity, 80% of the people on these forums would agree he is in fact the BIGGEST SCUM BAG here. Whether they would rightly seek legal action and put BFL to task is not the point of this thread.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 15, 2013, 07:34:59 AM
Come on INABA (BFL JOSH), EXPLAIN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THERE DEVICES HOW THEY WILL GET ROI OR EVEN SEE THERE PRODUCT?

Well, I'm very reluctant to try and be fair to Josh for obvious reasons, BUT neither Josh nor anyone else at BFL has ever promised anyone they'll break even. So at least in that regards he's not a liar and customers have only themselves to blame for buying from a gaggle of hacks and quacks that have never even seen a chip produced before trying to engineer (and I use that term loosely) an ASIC.

Oh so the advertising that said it will be ready in Oct/Nov of 2012 was my stupidity right?

Absolutely. People have been very vocally shouting warnings in the Hardware forum and later Custom Hardware forum ever since the FPGA days before an ASIC was even announced. They were invariably met with derision by True Believers exactly like during the pirate fiasco.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: superresistant on October 15, 2013, 07:49:53 AM
BFL is such a legend. I feel sorry for you guys but I can't help laughing at your reactions :

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GOE SUCK SOME COCK FOR ROCK YOU ROBBING ZIONIST!


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: frankenmint on October 15, 2013, 07:56:01 AM
1st page!!!!! bwaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa 



I just wanted to be part of THIS history here in this thread lol.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 15, 2013, 02:14:57 PM
Its a troll topic anyway. Everyone knows matthew n wright is by far the largest scum the forum has ever seen.

Also most of the attacks on josh are really attacks on bfl. Troll much?

The difference between Inaba and BFL,  none. As for trolling none do it better than Inaba... "dance monkeys dance" need I quote further? Sorry don't see where a person who denies refunds in the millions is not the biggest douchebag currently on these forums. Then lies about about people in the trust rating systems here in this very forum. Scum bag is too nice a term for the guy. One this blatantly clear he lacks moral integrity and no amount of cover you try to give him will change that given what he has done to his customers.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Fiyasko on October 15, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 16, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison

Lol. Did he steal from you or something or just call you a name?
Lol. The usual argument of ponzi crooks. People gave them their money voluntarily.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 16, 2013, 07:13:44 AM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison

Lol. Did he steal from you or something or just call you a name?
Lol. The usual argument of ponzi crooks. People gave them their money voluntarily.

Did he at least call you a name?
What for? Did I steal or lie?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 16, 2013, 09:31:19 AM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison

Lol. Did he steal from you or something or just call you a name?
Lol. The usual argument of ponzi crooks. People gave them their money voluntarily.

Did he at least call you a name?
What for? Did I steal or lie?

Did anyone?
Inaba did.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: goxed on October 16, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
Someone's going the right way for a "forced refund"  :D

No need to bring racism into this,please  ::)

Yes,BFL & "The Josh" are lyeing P.O.S's.They will be wrong on thier power estimates by a power of 3 & won't deliver the majority,over 75% of Monarchs till 2nd quarter 2014  :D

Zionism is not a race but religion.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 16, 2013, 10:43:31 AM
Someone's going the right way for a "forced refund"  :D

No need to bring racism into this,please  ::)

Yes,BFL & "The Josh" are lyeing P.O.S's.They will be wrong on thier power estimates by a power of 3 & won't deliver the majority,over 75% of Monarchs till 2nd quarter 2014  :D

Zionism is not a race but religion.

Actually it's neither. It's a political ideology.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: goxed on October 16, 2013, 10:45:43 AM
Someone's going the right way for a "forced refund"  :D

No need to bring racism into this,please  ::)

Yes,BFL & "The Josh" are lyeing P.O.S's.They will be wrong on thier power estimates by a power of 3 & won't deliver the majority,over 75% of Monarchs till 2nd quarter 2014  :D

Zionism is not a race but religion.

Actually it's neither. It's a political ideology.

you are right, it's a political ideology of the Jews. Btw what does Josh Zerlan religion / political affiliations got to do with BFL delayed orders.  


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 16, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
Someone's going the right way for a "forced refund"  :D

No need to bring racism into this,please  ::)

Yes,BFL & "The Josh" are lyeing P.O.S's.They will be wrong on thier power estimates by a power of 3 & won't deliver the majority,over 75% of Monarchs till 2nd quarter 2014  :D

Zionism is not a race but religion.

Actually it's neither. It's a political ideology.

you are right, it's a political ideology of the Jews. Btw what does Josh Zerlan religion / political affiliations got to do with BFL delayed orders.  

No idea. Only the OP knows.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 16, 2013, 03:43:19 PM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison

Lol. Did he steal from you or something or just call you a name?
Lol. The usual argument of ponzi crooks. People gave them their money voluntarily.

Did he at least call you a name?
What for? Did I steal or lie?

Did anyone?
Inaba did.

Oh. What did he do to you?
Oh. I'm not an exception. There are hundreds if not thousands like me.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 16, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
Oh sweet, my anti josh comment is on the first page!, Lucky me!
That sob needs to goto Prison

Lol. Did he steal from you or something or just call you a name?
Lol. The usual argument of ponzi crooks. People gave them their money voluntarily.

Did he at least call you a name?
What for? Did I steal or lie?

Did anyone?
Inaba did.

Oh. What did he do to you?
Oh. I'm not an exception. There are hundreds if not thousands like me.

He did nothing to thousands. Okay... i guess then why the hate?
Getting other peoples money through fraudulent ads and false promises and refuse refunds. Is that nothing? Should those people love him?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 17, 2013, 01:20:55 AM
Its a troll topic anyway. Everyone knows matthew n wright is by far the largest scum the forum has ever seen.

Also most of the attacks on josh are really attacks on bfl. Troll much?

The difference between Inaba and BFL,  none. As for trolling none do it better than Inaba... "dance monkeys dance" need I quote further? Sorry don't see where a person who denies refunds in the millions is not the biggest douchebag currently on these forums. Then lies about about people in the trust rating systems here in this very forum. Scum bag is too nice a term for the guy. One this blatantly clear he lacks moral integrity and no amount of cover you try to give him will change that given what he has done to his customers.

Oh you think inaba runs and owns bfl. Now i see where you are coming from. But check your facts man. 90 people work there and he is not the ceo.

Dude, you think I am that oblivious or are you being obtuse?

He owns part of the blame for the company failing to refund it's customers according to FTC regulations. Where did I say he OWNED it? I said there is no difference between the BFL and Inaba by which I am trying to counter your claims he remains blameless in BFL matters and is some how "trustworthy" given his years of working on his pool. I doubt his pool is clean in all the back door dealings with regard to BFL products going out the backdoor but there are others in these very forums that have already posted that and I would let those posts stand on their merit.

You can't really be defending this douche bag can you? Seriously? You are insinuating he is blameless in what BFL has done and is doing? No who is not checking facts and providing cover for the guy? Sad.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: 420 on October 17, 2013, 02:14:57 AM
What percent of BFL ASIC orders are delivered at this point? or how far along are they on the timeline of when people ordered and have received the products?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 17, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
What percent of BFL ASIC orders are delivered at this point? or how far along are they on the timeline of when people ordered and have received the products?

I was of the understanding they were almost caught up. But I have no idea how many are left. From what I hear most of the people working for BFL are putting stuff together.

Supposedly, there's a major wall ahead come April 2013 orders. Some other will have to post the proof.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 17, 2013, 06:48:22 AM
What percent of BFL ASIC orders are delivered at this point? or how far along are they on the timeline of when people ordered and have received the products?

I was of the understanding they were almost caught up.

You would be MISTAKEN. Just about as mistaken as your cover attempts for Inaba.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Mitchell on October 17, 2013, 06:58:46 AM
Calling Inabu a scumbag because he works for BFL, is like calling Obama an idiot because the parlement fucked up. (bad example, but you get the point) It makes no sense. I have met him and he seems like a decent guy and a fun guy to hang with. It isnt his fault when the company fucks up. He might take the blame but that doesnt mean he did it.
From what I heard they are catching up on orders.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 17, 2013, 07:03:13 AM
Its a troll topic anyway. Everyone knows matthew n wright is by far the largest scum the forum has ever seen.

Also most of the attacks on josh are really attacks on bfl. Troll much?

The difference between Inaba and BFL,  none. As for trolling none do it better than Inaba... "dance monkeys dance" need I quote further? Sorry don't see where a person who denies refunds in the millions is not the biggest douchebag currently on these forums. Then lies about about people in the trust rating systems here in this very forum. Scum bag is too nice a term for the guy. One this blatantly clear he lacks moral integrity and no amount of cover you try to give him will change that given what he has done to his customers.

Oh you think inaba runs and owns bfl. Now i see where you are coming from. But check your facts man. 90 people work there and he is not the ceo.

Dude, you think I am that oblivious or are you being obtuse?

He owns part of the blame for the company failing to refund it's customers according to FTC regulations. Where did I say he OWNED it? I said there is no difference between the BFL and Inaba by which I am trying to counter your claims he remains blameless in BFL matters and is some how "trustworthy" given his years of working on his pool. I doubt his pool is clean in all the back door dealings with regard to BFL products going out the backdoor but there are others in these very forums that have already posted that and I would let those posts stand on their merit.

You can't really be defending this douche bag can you? Seriously?

It is his job personally to do that? Have you ever had a job before? Do you know what PR means?

And I am not defending him, I'm calling you an idiot cuz you think Inaba = BFL. Why not attack the other 89 people?

I'm no fan of BFL and was pretty much one of the first to point out some of their evil ways. But you clowns make me ashamed.

I can guarantee you that I have had many years more experience than Mr. Inaba does in PR and promotion given the 18+ years I have promoted schools in Asia and I have never once had to resort to acting like a complete an utter douche bag to anyone in that time in defending a morally bankrupt company and I would on moral grounds never work for a company like BFL. It boggles my mind that you can't equate what a person does representing a company as a defacto representation of the company internal building blocks.

If you have followed the threads where Inaba bashed people, the competition and made statements that were more or less lies as opposed to estimates for shipping and he has yet to be FIRED by BFL then I guess you don't seem to get that BFL and Inaba's actions are morally reprehensible and unethical. I point you to my own trust and review what Inaba posted about me as proof of his lack of morality and inability to be truthful. I suspect you need to do a lot more than simply point at Inaba = BFL as a my downfall... yours is more insidious as it provides people with the impression that Josh is somehow respectable for providing you with a pool without any major issues. It is unfortunate that his just operation of a pool doesn't translate to his treatment of BFL customers.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 17, 2013, 07:08:49 AM
Calling Inabu a scumbag because he works for BFL, is like calling Obama an idiot because the parlement fucked up. (bad example, but you get the point) It makes no sense. I have met him and he seems like a decent guy and a fun guy to hang with. It isnt his fault when the company fucks up. He might take the blame but that doesnt mean he did it.
From what I heard they are catching up on orders.

BFL are scumbags for doing what they do.
Inaba as a voice for BFL has behaved as a scumbag.

The fact that BFL didn't fire him for his behavior means what exactly?

I put that to you to describe... that when an agent of a company acts in that manner and is not sanctioned it might mean that BFL condones that activity and that the Inaba as agent of BFL never apologizes for his company is also a clear indication that he is by default ok with BFL's scummy behavior.

How can one reasonably not equate both parties? Where has BFL and Inaba differed in their communication? Sounds more like the Tea Party or Republicans rather than Obama and Congress.

Obama as the American President works with the Congress, House and Judiciary there is no parliamentary system in the USA. Your analogy is no where near equitable with the actions of Inaba and BFL. When people sue BFL they are going to use the statements and promises of Inaba as evidence... let us see what happens. It is more like the Tea Party they are assholes and act like scumbags and are bringing the whole US system to it's knees for no other purpose than what? Hatred? Ineptitude? False pride? Take your pick that is where the analogy should be pointed.

If you haven't seen the 6+ month backlog post I can't help but think you lack the ability to find the "information" let alone BITCOIN INFORMATION.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285659.msg3344815#msg3344815

Quote
BFL is still selling their 65nm hardware.

With their shipping at 6 1/2 months behind.....

A 5gh Jalapeno purchased today, will be delivered in March 2014 with a return of BTC0.02151 for the lifetime of the device (6 weeks) before it starts to cost $1 a month.

They are still happy to take your money which shows what criminals they are.


STILL TAKING ORDERS on the 5Gh/s Jalapeno... ya that is ethical.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Mitchell on October 17, 2013, 07:22:35 AM
BitCoin =/= BFL. I provide information about BitCoin, not BFL or ASIC companies. There is a difference. Also, I have never seen him behave like a scumbag, if I did saw something like that, I would have said something else. I only share my personal opinion about Inaba (not BFL) and it seems that you clearly disagree with that. Nothing I can do about it.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: jackjack on October 17, 2013, 08:04:44 AM
Being anti-zionist is not being racist
kthxbai


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 17, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
Also, I have never seen him behave like a scumbag, if I did saw something like that, I would have said something else.

You are certainly not looking hard enough. Just check my trust rating to see the type of thing he is willing to do to discredit honest people. Basically he is a lying scum bag and further proof of that are the attempts in threads to threaten people's jobs by misrepresenting them to their employers. He sent a clearly unveiled threat he would inform my "boss" that I was a danger to children. I welcomed him to email me his concerns as I am my own boss with 18+ years in education with nothing but GLOWING recommendations from parents, peers and students but I guess you would say you have never seen him behave like a scumbag. So you might want to check into his actions a bit more and as far as I can tell, he is pretty much built to lie, cheat and everyone already knows he has already been sentenced for stealing so if that ain't a one way ticket to scumbagville I don't know what is. All one has to do is read to find out what kind of person he really is.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 17, 2013, 01:34:08 PM
It is his job personally to do that? Have you ever had a job before? Do you know what PR means?

Do you know what having a job means?  It means when you are on the job, which Inaba is when he's here, you're acting as an agent of the company.  The company is legally on the hook for it.  So yes, when he's doing his monkey dance here, he effectively is BFL for all legal purposes, at least from the BFL_Josh account.  Considering that he continues to do the same shit from his Inaba account, despite that allegedly being his "personal" account, BFL is probably on the hook for that, too.  It's called respondeat superior.[/quote]


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 17, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
I know you guys want to think BFL = Josh but lulz. If only Josh got all the money BFL got then fine...
Josh is the "face" of BFL. The "face" did his dirty job to deceive, lie, and mislead BFL sponsors (aka customers). Without Josh's polished skills of a professional fraudster BFL certainly won't have such a "success" robbing so many people. He is the master crook in BFL & Co and deserves the lion share of all the stolen money.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 17, 2013, 07:53:38 PM
I know you guys want to think BFL = Josh but lulz.

No, I never said BFL=Josh.  However, when Josh appears publicly as a representative for BFL, it is BFL acting vicariously through him.  It's not a very difficult concept.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: becoin on October 17, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
I know you guys want to think BFL = Josh but lulz. If only Josh got all the money BFL got then fine...
Josh is the "face" of BFL. The "face" did his dirty job to deceive, lie, and mislead BFL sponsors (aka customers). Without Josh's polished skills of a professional fraudster BFL certainly won't have such a "success" robbing so many people. He is the master crook in BFL & Co and deserves the lion share of all the stolen money.

so we should not blame Obama or any other politician for their actions, we should go after the PR guy!
If you don't like what your PR is doing, you fire him. If you keep him, you bear all the consequences. It is simple.

Crooks will stay together as long as there are stupid money available.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: freethink2013 on October 17, 2013, 09:31:38 PM
hate that cunt! who is he?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: honky1492 on October 17, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
I know you guys want to think BFL = Josh but lulz.

No, I never said BFL=Josh.  However, when Josh appears publicly as a representative for BFL, it is BFL acting vicariously through him.  It's not a very difficult concept.


He is just employee or coowner ? If employee, he just get his small salary, and it is just his normal personality


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 17, 2013, 11:36:21 PM
I know you guys want to think BFL = Josh but lulz.

No, I never said BFL=Josh.  However, when Josh appears publicly as a representative for BFL, it is BFL acting vicariously through him.  It's not a very difficult concept.

In everything Josh does? Well if that is the case in person BFL must be a really nice guy then  ::)

Please read before responding.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 18, 2013, 12:11:00 AM
When I refer to his nick, I mean the human being whose legal name is Josh Zerlan and who is Chief Operating Officer of BFL, by which I mean the entity incorporated in Wyoming and doing business in Kansas.  Do I really have to be this excruciatingly precise not to be deliberately misunderstood?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 18, 2013, 01:08:59 AM
When I refer to his nick, I mean the human being whose legal name is Josh Zerlan and who is Chief Operating Officer of BFL, by which I mean the entity incorporated in Wyoming and doing business in Kansas.  Do I really have to be this excruciatingly precise not to be deliberately misunderstood?

But you saying bfl is acting through him is just silly. Why not pick on the mail guy? What other than call people a name did he do?



Are you being serious or am I being trolled?  "Chief Operating Officer" is not the title of an employee.  It is a corporate OFFICER, hence the word OFFICER in the name.  Do you think that maybe a Chief OPERATING Officer has something to do, maybe, with OPERATING the company?

I mean fucking seriously.  Get real.

I'll also revise my post.  It wouldn't be simple respondeat superior liability that applies to any action of an employee on the job.  Josh actually speaks as a corporate officer.  That is, yes, he IS speaking for BFL when in his official capacity, just as the CEO or any other corporate officer would.

Like respondeat superior, NOT a difficult concept to understand unless you're going out of your way not to understand it, for whatever incomprehensible reason.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 18, 2013, 08:01:07 AM
When I refer to his nick, I mean the human being whose legal name is Josh Zerlan and who is Chief Operating Officer of BFL, by which I mean the entity incorporated in Wyoming and doing business in Kansas.  Do I really have to be this excruciatingly precise not to be deliberately misunderstood?

But you saying bfl is acting through him is just silly. Why not pick on the mail guy? What other than call people a name did he do?



Are you being serious or am I being trolled?  "Chief Operating Officer" is not the title of an employee.  It is a corporate OFFICER, hence the word OFFICER in the name.  Do you think that maybe a Chief OPERATING Officer has something to do, maybe, with OPERATING the company?

I mean fucking seriously.  Get real.

I'll also revise my post.  It wouldn't be simple respondeat superior liability that applies to any action of an employee on the job.  Josh actually speaks as a corporate officer.  That is, yes, he IS speaking for BFL when in his official capacity, just as the CEO or any other corporate officer would.

Like respondeat superior, NOT a difficult concept to understand unless you're going out of your way not to understand it, for whatever incomprehensible reason.

So an officer called you a name? Other than that, why is he scum?

I feel the hate, just don't understand why.

Pfft right. Guy lies on trust ratings and threatens people with false accusations to get them fired. Guys a scumbag full stop and that includes his actions on behalf of BFL here in these forums.

Not enough. At this point you are being purposefully obtuse? Maybe you need to make full disclosure on your dealings with Inaba. There are plenty more examples available we will simply leave that up to you to ignore but don't expect everyone else here to simply nod in agreement that he is reputable. He isn't. He has lied in his capacity as an officer in the company he represents both as JOSH and INABA for BFL. He has been brought to court and sentenced for theft not something we should take into consideration when determining the ethical make up of this individual? Finally he has refused to offer refunds to paying customers based on FTC regulations in so far that members of this community have had to call their banks, credit card companies and paypal to get force refunds. At what point are you going to admit the guy is a douchebag as well as criminal is the evidence not sufficient? I suspect you are being purposefully obtuse and one wonders why you would do that?

Check out how Inaba / Josh described why $300 for EXPEDITED shipping was necessary... then tell me he isn't a scum bag for cheating people on shipping.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313218.0

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ubi "BFL charges about $300 for shipping & actual cost is $53.95"

Thought the community might want to know if it's not out there already.

I had ordered a 60 GH/s unit way back at the beginning of the year. There was an initial shipping charge (international). About 8 months in to the wait, BFL offered an "upgraded" expedited shipping option for about an extra $200. Of course I jumped at the opportunity to get my miner sooner in the face of increasing difficulty.

Disappointed when the box arrived and I found that it was the Priority Mail International® Large Flat Rate Box by USPS - totalling $53.95. I get there can be some handling fee included perhaps, but really seemed like gauging to me.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193064.msg2029599#msg2029599

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Inaba

You know what?  I did not set up the original shipping and I don't know anything about the original shipping.  If you didn't pay for overnight shipping (which you didn't) then you aren't getting overnight shipping. If you paid for shipping prior to February, you paid for standard shipping and that's what you're getting, whatever name you want to call it.  Chances are, if you paid for shipping after February, you also paid for standard shipping.  There is no one that paid "extra" for expedited shipping prior to that.

If you want to upgrade your shipping, upgrade your shipping. If you don't, then don't, it's as simple as that.  You can call the shipping anything you want, it doesn't matter to me.

Guy is a scumbag... and a liar.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 18, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
So an officer called you a name? Other than that, why is he scum?

I feel the hate, just don't understand why.

So far as I know, Josh has never responded to anything I've said, but I don't know, since I put him on ignore pretty quickly.  I don't like thieves.  Apparently, you do, or at least, you have been remarkably generous with your money to them.

If you don't understand why people wouldn't like thieves, I'm afraid I can't explain it.  It's just one of those things some people don't like.  It's not like the guy or his company has personally ripped me off, because pre-ordering from companies founded by convicted criminals and manned by vermin like Josh is not my cup of tea.

Just don't like the guy, the company he works for, the guy who founded it, or the company itself.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: ibminer on October 18, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
So an officer called you a name? Other than that, why is he scum?

I feel the hate, just don't understand why.

So far as I know, Josh has never responded to anything I've said, but I don't know, since I put him on ignore pretty quickly.  I don't like thieves.  Apparently, you do, or at least, you have been remarkably generous with your money to them.

If you don't understand why people wouldn't like thieves, I'm afraid I can't explain it.  It's just one of those things some people don't like.  It's not like the guy or his company has personally ripped me off, because pre-ordering from companies founded by convicted criminals and manned by vermin like Josh is not my cup of tea.

Just don't like the guy, the company he works for, the guy who founded it, or the company itself.

Well people are claiming he went to court ovrr theft charges related to bfl and was convicted. Clearly id like to see evidence of this.

You should all know im not a fan of bfl but most of the attack on him have little to do with him. This court case if true would change things. Bit i live in the show me state so im going to need to see some proof.. Thx

When you combine the fact that Josh comes off as being an arrogant self-centered condescending ass with the fact that he is the 'face' of a company that constantly has issues with extreme shipping delays/engineering/management/ad nauseam... it opens all kind of angles for attacks, it almost seems intentional sometimes.

Maybe Josh is just the patsy for BFL... he will end up being the one thrown under the bus or silently removed from BFL and flown off to Mexico where he will enjoy his days sipping Pina Coladas & mining with everyone's hardware, and BFL will apologize for all of the heartache Josh caused and offer a cookie to those who are still upset.  *Cookie to be delivered in the next 2 weeks and may or may not be half eaten.

Throwing out all of the 'unverified' or 'unproven' comments, I still think he's an ass - as a person.    :D
... and BFL seems to be a poorly run company or a well thought out scheme.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 18, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
Well people are claiming he went to court ovrr theft charges related to bfl and was convicted. Clearly id like to see evidence of this.

Well, if they're claiming that, so far as I know, anyone claiming that is wrong.  We can agree on that.

That hasn't happened yet, though we can hope.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: dogjunior on October 18, 2013, 11:35:18 PM
Inaba and BFL are gods of BTC. Yifu and Avalon come in second.  BFL presold thousands of miners and got people to drink their kool aid. They mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got very high then  started to trickle hardware/sell hardware out the back door/front door. You have to admire companies that can screw you that hard and then make you want to come back for more.

Yifu and Avalon come in second to BFL. They started out like they were angels but that was just a fake out. Their true nature came out with the chip fiasco. Avalon sold chips to another company while they made the group buys wait for their chips. Difficulty and chip delivery delays caused many group buys and builders to cancel orders. Avalon also mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got high then delivered hardware with almost no possibility of ROI. They are now attempting a second fake out. They sell some cheap outdate hardware thru auction to build some goodwill. People are still drinking Yifu's Kool aid.  



Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 19, 2013, 01:43:15 AM
Inaba and BFL are gods of BTC. Yifu and Avalon come in second.  BFL presold thousands of miners and got people to drink their kool aid. They mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got very high then  started to trickle hardware/sell hardware out the back door/front door. You have to admire companies that can screw you that hard and then make you want to come back for more.

Yifu and Avalon come in second to BFL. They started out like they were angels but that was just a fake out. Their true nature came out with the chip fiasco. Avalon sold chips to another company while they made the group buys wait for their chips. Difficulty and chip delivery delays caused many group buys and builders to cancel orders. Avalon also mined with customer hardware until the difficulty got high then delivered hardware with almost no possibility of ROI. They are now attempting a second fake out. They sell some cheap outdate hardware thru auction to build some goodwill. People are still drinking Yifu's Kool aid.  



See this has style. I like this.

Careful, it's a trap!  ;D

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Inaba and BFL are gods of BTC.

http://data4.blog.de/media/755/1578755_e589c269b5_m.jpeg


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 19, 2013, 03:11:44 AM
Sure the theft conviction is related. I guess by context it was bfl related? Can you link me to the court documents or something?

Thanks


How about you do the leg work, there are plenty of pissed off customers posting all the evidence you need right here in the forums and one opinion doesn't matter whether it is your simple statement he ran an ok pool or my comments he lied in the trust rating about me and Big Picture Mining Cooperative and his attempt to threaten me saying he was going to report me as a danger to children to my employers a pure scumbag move. He definitely has little ethical or moral base given those 2 examples of his actions in this forum you don't need more evidence do you?

Let us not play semantics with regards to the BFL = Josh comment just be honest about his behaviour. Guys a full on douche bag. He lies and has a  been brought before a court for stealing cable criminal record. You and I on the other hand I would safely say have integrity have never been convicted of any criminal offense in a court of law and would be respected as ethical entities in this forum. Josh / Inaba is not.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 19, 2013, 03:23:19 AM
Sure the theft conviction is related. I guess by context it was bfl related? Can you link me to the court documents or something?

Thanks


How about you do the leg work, there are plenty of pissed off customers posting all the evidence you need right here in the forums and one opinion doesn't matter whether it is your simple statement he ran an ok pool or my comments he lied in the trust rating about me and Big Picture Mining Cooperative and his attempt to threaten me saying he was going to report me as a danger to children to my employers a pure scumbag move. He definitely has little ethical or moral base given those 2 examples of his actions in this forum you don't need more evidence do you?

Let us not play semantics with regards to the BFL = Josh comment just be honest about his behaviour. Guys a full on douche bag. He lies and has a criminal record. You and I on the other hand I would safely say have integrity have never been convicted of a criminal offense and would be respected as ethical entities in this forum. Josh / Inaba is not.

To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 19, 2013, 03:30:19 AM
To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?

The case was DirecTV v. Puccinelli et al.  It was not a criminal case, but a civil case.  I do not know how it was resolved.  So far as I am aware, there were never any criminal charges involved, and so far as I know, Josh Zerlan has no criminal record.  If someone knows differently, I'd be glad to see it.

I'm no fan of the guy, but there's no need to make stuff up about him.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 20, 2013, 02:06:43 AM
Redacted the term "criminal".  http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-ksd-2_03-cv-02287/pdf/USCOURTS-ksd-2_03-cv-02287-4.pdf

Either way his threat to inform my boss (me) that I was a danger to children was a douchebag move and so was LYING about me and the Big Picture Mining Cooperative not refunding people for the K1 Nanos we were going to be build and cancelled given Avalon didn't ship the chips. REFUNDED everyone in short time and we did that proactively.

Those facts alone should give you pause.

The facts about the shipping have given you pause.

The facts about the delays on productions and shipping based on Inaba's promises must give you pause.

The allegations about back door shipping and mining of BFL rigs should give you pause.

The manner and tone of Inaba in the forums to his customers should give you pause.

The failure to refund and then to defend policies, like Inaba has and counter to FTC regulations, should also give you pause.

Add all that up and I suspect you would also come to the same conclusion. The guy is a scumbag.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Zeek_W on October 20, 2013, 03:42:20 AM
Thanks Obama Inaba


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: johnniewalker on October 20, 2013, 05:17:53 AM
Being anti-zionist is not being racist
kthxbai
+1


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 20, 2013, 08:34:47 AM
Yeah im not happy about the shipping but you did slander him.

I dont know too much about the rest.

He runs a good pool and is a cool guy in person.

Being pr for bfl must suck and really i think you should be attacking them not josh.

That or gox... talk about scum...

No he has slandered me and the people that I worked with at Big Picture Mining Cooperative. Let us get that straight, unlike Inaba I corrected my errors. He continues to promote his slanderous activity even when they are demonstratively proved to be incorrect.

Guys a Grade A scum bag based on the facts presented I suspect you would agree regardless of his pool operations.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on October 20, 2013, 10:09:55 AM
Haha this thread is great.  ;D


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 23, 2013, 04:53:59 AM
At some point this guy will be dragged into a court and have to defend himself for his actions. I am surprised that the FBI is not investigating his pool and mining operations for money laundering yet.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 23, 2013, 02:56:10 PM
To be fair, the only thing I've every read or came across about Josh having a criminal record or case against him had something to do with some cable company or cable boxes. Some other can shed light on this, but to my knowledge there's no major cases against him unrelated to BFL, if there is any presently. Are you sure you don't have him mixed with with Sonny?

The case was DirecTV v. Puccinelli et al.  It was not a criminal case, but a civil case.  I do not know how it was resolved.  So far as I am aware, there were never any criminal charges involved, and so far as I know, Josh Zerlan has no criminal record.  If someone knows differently, I'd be glad to see it.

I had a read through the court documents some time ago and as far as I remember, Zerlan was originally involved in the proceedings as an Accused (along dozens of others), but was dropped from the case very early.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Syke on October 23, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
The title of the thread says "Inaba", Josh_BFL is the account that works for BFL.

Inaba operates a pool.

You guys need to target BFL or at least Josh_BFL

Josh doesn't use the BFL_Josh account. He uses his Inaba account for all his BFL-related activities.

Anyway what else did he do as a person, like personally other than call a few of you some names? Being wrong about shipping dates I highly doubt was his call to make. Again PR just deals with the public and says what he is told to say.

Josh is not just "PR". He is a senior-level executive at BFL. Read up on what a COO is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_operating_officer


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Syke on October 23, 2013, 05:50:32 PM

I never got his business card. And anyway is that a "fact" or a fact? Hard to tell with all these false claims flying around.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/management-view/josh-zerlan-3/


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 26, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
At some point this guy will be dragged into a court and have to defend himself for his actions. I am surprised that the FBI is not investigating his pool and mining operations for money laundering yet.

lol, you crack me up.

I am suprised...

no need to fact check my opinion is there?

Given the dirt bag did this to me I feel it is fair to speculate wildly about what the FBI might find when they look into his operations. Unlike Josh I have been bonded and can be bonded in Canada, and is likely a matter of public record but I will leave that up to you check out from the OPP database in Toronto.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3012552#msg3012552

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Talk about frightening.  He couldn't get approved in Canada (I suspect because of his legal problems) and decided to move somewhere with less stringent laws governing people such as himself coming in contact with children.  I believe his wife is listed as the "owner" of the school, which is probably why he was able to pass a background check to get the place started.  For bonus points, check out his video's on Youtube.  Dude is classic coiled spring waiting to go off.

I suspect I am not the only one he has slandered in the forums. Might want to have a longer look at your hero there Goat.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: bernard75 on October 27, 2013, 04:12:14 AM
I say innocent until proven guilty, and i dont mean by a jury that is biased.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: wheelgator on October 27, 2013, 05:17:27 AM
hero

Oh? I just said he seems like a nice guy when not dealing with retards who slander him. You have to admit most of the claims people said about him in this thread were not exactly true.



ill pay u a bitcoin to throat my honker, bitch


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: MooC Tals on October 27, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Inaba is a business man.

That should say it all.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: wheelgator on October 27, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
i doubt it to be worth 1 btc.

Actually, it is.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 29, 2013, 05:59:07 AM
hero

Oh? I just said he seems like a nice guy when not dealing with retards who slander him. You have to admit most of the claims people said about him in this thread were not exactly true.



You have it the wrong way around... the chicken came first not the egg.


He has at every chance, devolved every thread, that has pointed out clearly what he has done to injure his customers into name calling. Sorry but how about we look at his behavior with regards to slander first. Concurrently you can also look at his lack of ethical business practices.

At what point does this synergy make you want to admit he lacks integrity that you or I have?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 29, 2013, 06:03:12 AM
I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Again you avoid the point.

What is your opinion of his slandering others?
What is your opinion about his stand on say refunds given the FTC rules for shipping products?

You may want to cheer his past what about now?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 29, 2013, 06:07:29 AM
I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Well you sure do come across that way.

I was smart not investing.

I am ethical.

I suspect you are ethical and smart.

Why is there a disconnect with your OPINION of Josh's behaviour? Seems to me your assessment skews one way not both. I find that distressing given the actual evidence that exists about Josh, minus the vitriol of course, acting unethically and is a douche bag pretty much for trying to slander me as a single example there are countless more in these forums.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Bicknellski on October 29, 2013, 06:28:00 AM
I never invested in BFL.

I was smart.


Well you sure do come across that way.

I was smart not investing.

I am ethical.

I suspect you are ethical and smart.

Why is there a disconnect with your OPINION of Josh's behaviour? Seems to me your assessment skews one way not both. I find that distressing given the actual evidence that exists about Josh minus the vitriol the guy has acted unethically and is a douche bag pretty much for trying to slander me as an example.


he slandered you? can you back that up with a quote? or you just slandering him?

Umm read above dude... I have posted 2x about this and you seem to ignore each time.

I don't have time to point out what I have already posted. Check MY TRUST RATING as I have stated already or read a few posts above. I hope you are not being purposefully obtuse I really don't have the time for people taking the piss. If you are not going to read what I write and post why should I bother in this dialogue with you?



Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: jackjack on October 29, 2013, 07:02:50 AM
Again you avoid the point.

What is your opinion of his slandering others?
What is your opinion about his stand on say refunds given the FTC rules for shipping products?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on October 29, 2013, 01:03:52 PM
http://s11.postimg.org/xs0lg473n/image.jpg

The subject and his sated defender.  $30 out of BFL petty cash, well spent.  (And a tax writeoff, too!)


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 29, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
Ok, I recognize Josh and Sonny. Who da rest?

Why do three persons look like two are twins born to the third person? Is there some metal gear type perfect solder (<- get it? Solder!) shit going on?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 29, 2013, 02:19:50 PM
I guess ill have to reread it. All i saw was false claims about josh. I even set up a bounty so people would back up yheir claim. No one collected.

I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to defame everyone in this thread.  I'm not interested in dumb bounties or other bets.  I have not made a single false statement in this thread, and I defy you to produce one.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: BadBear on October 29, 2013, 04:59:25 PM
Ok, I recognize Josh and Sonny. Who da rest?

Why do three persons look like two are twins born to the third person? Is there some metal gear type perfect solder (<- get it? Solder!) shit going on?

Counterclockwise: Goat, Josh, Sonny, Phinneaus Gage, don't know the rest.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on October 30, 2013, 12:31:03 AM
Josh, why don't you do us all a favour and stop breathing and save the oxygon for human being you dirty cockroach!

P.s, I got my miner, but it don't stop me seeing and telling the truth! I truely feel sorry for anyone still tied up with bfl, my single is already an auniment and testament to the disaster that is bfl, the biggest fuck ups in bitcoin!

Josssshy josh you dirty scumbag cockroach!


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Mitchell on October 30, 2013, 12:32:31 AM
Thanks for the laugh m3sSh3aD. It would be better to direct that hate towards BFL itself instead of 1 person.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on October 30, 2013, 12:51:21 AM
Thanks for the laugh m3sSh3aD. It would be better to direct that hate towards BFL itself instead of 1 person.

No no, this is solely for him! I don't even use these forums myself as they.... Suck in all honesty but I will continue to make sure that this silver spooned spunk bubble, low life granny robbing prick of a cockroach knows it. Bfl may well be the company but josh as earned the right for me to solely hunt him down and squish that bug good and proper.....

He's the essense of everything bad in this world, him and the Rothschild's! Yes, I compare him to the pure evil that is the Rothschild's and there cronies because mentally, he is the same! With the president Barry too, Cameron from UK. Fuck, all these cockroaches! We need some giant equating machine pronto!

These cockroaches need exterminating!

The dirt bag doesn't reply to me no more because I'll rip him a new hole! Needs one right between them eyes and about an inch up!


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 30, 2013, 04:23:16 AM
Ok, I recognize Josh and Sonny. Who da rest?

Why do three persons look like two are twins born to the third person? Is there some metal gear type perfect solder (<- get it? Solder!) shit going on?

Counterclockwise: Goat, Josh, Sonny, Phinneaus Gage, don't know the rest.

That wasn't me. A likeness of me must have been hacked, for some say I was even in Atlanta. I bet psy has something to do with this.  ;D

Next to the guy that looks like me is bcp19, boozer, and a friend that boozer brought along, a pretty bright guy, so I've been told, for I wasn't there. And I can prove I wasn't there, for my beard is longer than that, for I just looked in the mirror to confirm.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Syke on October 30, 2013, 05:19:58 AM
also the real target should be bfl, not some employee.

BFL does not do anything. It is not alive. It is no more intelligent than a rock. The Officers, such as Chief Operating Officer Josh, are the cause of all these problems.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Syke on October 30, 2013, 05:55:49 AM
and anyway this whole thread seems to be about attacking him personally, stuff that has nothing to do with bfl was talked about... seems silly.

Why does that surprise you with all the personal attacks he has leashed on his customers here?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Zephir on October 30, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
and anyway this whole thread seems to be about attacking him personally, stuff that has nothing to do with bfl was talked about... seems silly.

Why does that surprise you with all the personal attacks he has leashed on his customers here?

i have not seen them. links?

Maybe you should read Bicknellski´s trust rating comments.
He lost his job, caused by Inaba.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Syke on October 30, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
i have not seen them. links?

How could you miss them? Here's a small sampling.

Calling people "monkeys" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285659.msg3219077#msg3219077
Calling everyone "little minions" and "crazies" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285659.msg3218994#msg3218994
Calling others "whiny, entitled little brats" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg3077301#msg3077301
"what a tool" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283286.msg3032120#msg3032120
"asshole and a douchebag" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281880.msg3023263#msg3023263
"rabid, psychotic, tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts with personality disorders" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281880.msg3015571#msg3015571
"you're a liar and a thief" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3013863#msg3013863
"you are an ignorant, lying  piece of shit" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3013355#msg3013355
"making an ass of yourself" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3013308#msg3013308
Calling someone a pedophile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3012552#msg3012552
"you fucking moron." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=278844.msg3009848#msg3009848

And that's just from the last few weeks. There's hundreds more. This is how he typically acts.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: darkmule on October 30, 2013, 03:17:27 PM
and anyway this whole thread seems to be about attacking him personally, stuff that has nothing to do with bfl was talked about... seems silly.

Why does that surprise you with all the personal attacks he has leashed on his customers here?

i have not seen them. links?

Why in the world have you appointed yourself as some kind of weird defender of the biggest dick this forum has ever known?  What are you getting out of it?

Cause you seem to be an okay guy otherwise.  Why the hell have you allied yourself to this fucking jerkoff Josh?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: greyhawk on October 30, 2013, 07:51:29 PM

This is the response I got when I objected to his self-moderating/censoring the posts in the press forum.



Let me break it down to you. You're a dog eating Thai scum. Your kind is not even part of the human race. Your subspecies shouldn't even be allowed to leave the boundaries of the shithole you call a country. If I ever get the chance to kill a single Thai, Cambodian or Vietnamese piece of subhuman garbage before I die, I'll die knowing I did something good for mankind.   


So what happened? Did you fuck his girl or something?


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Minor Miner on October 30, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
That's really uncalled for. Did you report him?

No. My point is that is normal here. I get something like that at least weekly.

It is not normal here nor anywhere in public spaces.   It is disgusting.
In reading your defense of Josh and his behavior, has tainted anything you may post in the future for a lot of people.   Do not defend people who are racist, who use vile language (like calling entropy a cock sucking thai whore when entropy just tried to explain what was wrong with BFL's design), who break laws and publicize it (like posting here that non USA residents could avoid paying taxes and duties by hosting with BFL).   etc.
It is fine if you read the crap and think it is fine, but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior after being shown TONS of links.   That sets a perception to who people think you are.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Minor Miner on October 30, 2013, 09:20:12 PM
"but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior "
See that is just silly. I did nothing of the sort.
That is the great thing about markets -  in order to have one you need two people with opposite opinions.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on October 31, 2013, 01:37:36 AM
That's really uncalled for. Did you report him?

No. My point is that is normal here. I get something like that at least weekly.

It is not normal here nor anywhere in public spaces.   It is disgusting.
In reading your defense of Josh and his behavior, has tainted anything you may post in the future for a lot of people.   Do not defend people who are racist, who use vile language (like calling entropy a cock sucking thai whore when entropy just tried to explain what was wrong with BFL's design), who break laws and publicize it (like posting here that non USA residents could avoid paying taxes and duties by hosting with BFL).   etc.
It is fine if you read the crap and think it is fine, but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior after being shown TONS of links.   That sets a perception to who people think you are.

Well I'm not sure why you think I'm defending his actions. He called people names and I said as much.

The title of this thread is

"Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?"

and it seems that part of him being a scum bag is cuz of that name calling. I gave you a clear case where someone was way over the top of what Josh did.

Psy and Smoothie in my mind are clearly above Josh in the scum bag department. Matthew N Wright would be number one but his hospitalization sort of fixed that. See that question mark put it in doubts and I was asking for people to defend why he is the biggest scum bag and honestly I'm not impressed.



"but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior "

See that is just silly. I did nothing of the sort.

Seriously dude, he's a scum bag! A dirty cockroach scumbag that will shaft his own gran for his next hit! Speaking of hits.....


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 31, 2013, 05:42:44 AM
That's really uncalled for. Did you report him?

No. My point is that is normal here. I get something like that at least weekly.

It is not normal here nor anywhere in public spaces.   It is disgusting.
In reading your defense of Josh and his behavior, has tainted anything you may post in the future for a lot of people.   Do not defend people who are racist, who use vile language (like calling entropy a cock sucking thai whore when entropy just tried to explain what was wrong with BFL's design), who break laws and publicize it (like posting here that non USA residents could avoid paying taxes and duties by hosting with BFL).   etc.
It is fine if you read the crap and think it is fine, but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior after being shown TONS of links.   That sets a perception to who people think you are.

Well I'm not sure why you think I'm defending his actions. He called people names and I said as much.

The title of this thread is

"Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?"

and it seems that part of him being a scum bag is cuz of that name calling. I gave you a clear case where someone was way over the top of what Josh did.

Psy and Smoothie in my mind are clearly above Josh in the scum bag department. Matthew N Wright would be number one but his hospitalization sort of fixed that. See that question mark put it in doubts and I was asking for people to defend why he is the biggest scum bag and honestly I'm not impressed.



"but now you condone the behavior and actually continue supporting his behavior "

See that is just silly. I did nothing of the sort.

Apologies for the aside, but that's about Matthew and a hospital? First I heard of that.


Title: Re: Inaba - The biggest scum bag on these forums?
Post by: papaminer on October 31, 2013, 05:49:40 AM
it looks like this thread got UN-deleted?