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Let's say you bought a bitcoin for $1000 in January 2018. <Just an example, not the real price at the time>

So you have to beat inflation and also the performance of other investments to say that your Bitcoin investment was a better investment, than other alternative investments.

Let's say your inflation is 5% and your best return on some other investment is %20 per year, then your Bitcoin price increase will have to be more than %25 to beat the alternative investment.  

Let's say you hoard for 5 years, then you would need a price increase of 125% to beat your alternative investment returns over 5 years.

So we cannot have a price increase of 800% in year 1 and then a price decrease of %400 in year 2 and another price decrease of 200% in year 3 and so on...

Hope you get at what I am saying. Hoarding might be harmful to your profits, if you do not cash out SOME profit on the ATH.  ;) ..... You might end up with a bitcoin worth $100 in year 5.  ::)

The rise of bitcoin is driven by many factors. In the end, the rise of BTC prices is due to the increasing perfection of its investment attributes. BTC no breakthrough in usage scenarios, but as an investment, BTC has already is an important investment target, whose nature is more and more like gold, its use value is no longer important, important is its increasingly recognized as an investment.

I am not really sure I get your point here. If you have an initial $1,000 invested, and you get positive returns every year, how can you end with just $100?

I do agree in cashing out from time to time, especially in ATHs.

I agree with what you are saying. I remember someone here from the forum said the same thing and that made me realize that I should enjoy and take some profits.

This isn't an investment used to be but to take profits and enjoy during the ATH is what others are forgetting. The fact that everyone is becoming greedier due to the potential that we can see to bitcoin but at the very end of it, we fall. There's nothing wrong in holding but don't forget to take your profit.

This should not be too difficult to understand. You buy at say $1000 in year 1 and the price drop with 50%, then you are left with $500. Then it drops with another 50% in year 2 and you are left with $250 of your initial investment.

If you invested that $1000 in some traditional investment and you received say 20% in year 1, then you would have had $1200 by the end of that year and $1440 in year 2 and so on...

The best strategy would be to take profits in whatever year the price of Bitcoin reach a ATH again, to secure your profits. You should not just follow a blind "hoarding" strategy, where you hope that the price will be much higher than what you might have received from an investment in a traditional investment with a fixed return.

I took profits last year, when the price skyrocketed to a ATH, so my profits are locked in. <800% in 1 year> So, even if the price decrease now, I would still have recovered my initial investment with some good profits.  ;)

I can lose all my money invested into Bitcoin now and I would still be in the green, because I cashed out the profit on a ATH.  ;D

You are partially right about this,but bitcoin is not stocks.In the financial world more risk=more profits.
With the higher btc volatility,all the crypto investors are taking a way higher risks,instead of buying and holding stocks and obligations.The constant rise of the btc price is impossible,but a lower btc price volatility
is impossible as well.  

The trick is to manage that risk, and not just gambling on the outcome. One of the methods to manage the risk is to determine when it is the opportune time to exit and to sell a percentage of your profits to reach a good ROI. For this to happen, the price of the coins that you bought, would have to increase to a price point higher than the purchase price.

This price point has to be high enough for the investor to be able to beat other investment options and this is why we need a constant increase in the value of the coin. People will lose interest, if the price continue on a downward spiral or even a long stagnation in the price.

If there will be things like that, we will prefferably choose to buy bitcoin, knowing that it will grow, like some bank deposit.

Definitely its very important for the price of bitcoin to increases more because it has a big advantage for the whole cryptomarket to celebrate the biggest capital they want to earned if the investors will soon to withdraw there investing and also others who are believe that value will soar up high up to the highest pick of speculated valued is concern and there goes a volatility which easily down the world value to due excessive selling of bitcoin in a market.

to know when to enter or exit we must have a sharp analysis. that's what it takes to get a lot of profit. because of we can not control the market by lowering the votality or raising it. so we have to cleverly take advantage of the opportunity

I think this market do not work base on this analysis you put on and from history you can see that we have been having steady progress for the past five years.  We are not going to have any of those dump consecutively in five years and holding is the best ways for you to actually make money in this market.  We are going to have a normal assets price from now on.

There's a lot more to it too! There's a whole psychological component as well. People were inclined to invest in Bitcoin during the ATH run because they saw it going up so much. They decided that they could hop on the train too, so that's exactly what they did. However, when people see this coin hovering at the same spot/dropping a little bit, people get scared. They pull their money out, and they also tell everyone else they know to do so as well. In this case, there's not as much of a push to drive the price back up, so the coin has to fight this resistance. Since BTC is governed by the people who invest in it, this can have major impacts on the price. It's a weird cycle in a sense.

It is not important. Moreover, it is harmful. If price raises all the time - you will simply hold it. If everyone holds or trades (sell and buy bitcoin to gain profit) just because it is stupid to sell it for less when you know it will cost more tomorrow - it will make the bitcoin totally useless (money to make more money).
If you don't understand this - I am really sorry, but seriously, don't you see the benefits of blockchain apart of growing price? Not stable currency cannot be used in economy or trading.

Yes I get this point. This is the importance of setting a time frame when to cash out. That's true we have to enjoy the profit. Then repeat buy and sell. It is better that we put to circulation on what we hold. I think that is better. Most especially the value of Bitcoin is quite high nowadays.

I can make sense of what you are saying from this above quote.

It is exactly the point that while hodling, price increase and fall back, so it is more business like when we sell off at profiting time to buy again when price is low.

The usage scenario is not something we are getting to see now, but hopefully we may get to see this in the long run and as it is now, we may just end up stuck to having speculative asset in our hands. As more people keep seeing it as an investment alone, and then hoarding it, the more the speculative attribute of it keeps increasing. However, the OP was right, as there are just some times you need to be smart even while you are trying to hold for the greater good.

Right, I was actually forced to learn how to trade and find a pattern to be able to get the best of the market as a result of most of the things the OP said and that over the years has ended up giving me a better position than someone who is just busy hoarding all through. It has made me to focus on the future which I would not apparently be missing and also be enjoying the present profits. I believe this is where my mouth is and better to concentrate on getting the best of it.

 Its anybody's choice if your going to hold or sell it later. The crypto currency market trading movement is Volatile, just other stock market, no one can tell what will happened to the  market of ALT coin price. A stable market price of one coin project is important not only the coin project investor but it is the bases of building confidence to other future market trading investor which contribute to the future increase on the price value of Bitcoin. Issues on Banned,Scammer, and Regulation affects the price value of Bitcoin every time it was release on the trading market. The steady but slowly increase on the price value of such coin project is more than important  rather the spike increase.

I have some tokens I got by work. Bitcoin Prices Grade Pauer, I sell and get good profit. Bitcoin has a few investors involved with it and there are also some of the less developed people who work this Bitcoin family. So, I think it is very important to keep the Bitcoin value intensified by analyzing all the details.

You are correct! Blindly hoarding your bitcoins can be proved harmful if we are not cashing out some of it during the peak prices. because bitcoin has a very limited use in digital form, especially in my country. So I always have to cash it out to make it useful. However, I also use another small trading strategy. I always keep around $500 - $600 of liquid funds in exchanges to execute trades whenever an opportunity arises. I take the moving average into consideration and invest during the price decrease. Just to give you an example,

Bitcoin price on 10 May: $9,300
Bitcoin price on 16 May: $8,227
Difference of: $1,073

If you monitor the market very closely, you can see that bitcoin's price moves within a certain price ranges every week. I just try to identify the low and enter into a position by exchanging my USDT in to bitcoin. So here I have entered in to a position yesterday and I will wait for the price to go up at least to $9,000 before squaring off my position. It may take few days but once it happens, I exchange back my bitcoins to USDT again by scoring a profit of 9.4%. That's a profit of $56 dollars which is equivalent to 3.7k in my local currency. I execute such trades once or twice a week to maintain some liquidity in my hand. I have written this down because I always put a minor percentage of my bitcoins to work instead of keeping them idle. That's inflation proof as well as provide me enough liquidity whenever needed.

That is correct. Bitcoin is only the best investment of a given time period, if it yields more or outperforms the next available investment.

I think that's where the difference between a trader and a holder start to emerge. Holders aren't technically in bitcoin to make the most amount of money, they just want to conserve their wealth away from fiat currencies for the long term.

That's why if you're a trader, or someone who is into bitcoin more as an short term investment, it's so important that you sell at appropriate times. Bitcoin has its peaks and troughs, just like all other investments in the real economy.

Indeed. Hoarding bitcoin alone isn't enough since anytime, a violent crash might happen that could potentially affect your already in-profit investment. You need to liquidate funds immediately and reopen your position in the market once it has suffered some losses. Only then would you be outperforming traditional investments and wait for the next opportunity to buy back in the market. I'm not against hoarding coins for the long time because I know for a fact that it works, but the people who are hoarding for too long might be missing a lot of opportunities this market is offering.

I think I get what you're saying. Basically, simply HODLing isn't enough to maximize your profits, correct? Bitcoin does have the potential to be one of the best performers, but you must do some smart selling in addition to HODLing to actually realize that potential. It has to be acknowledged that there's a lot of guesswork involved though, as you always run the risk (if you can even call it that lmao) of selling mid-rally.

Aren't your numbers a bit off though? I mean, why would inflation not affect other traditional investments? Am I missing something?

I can understand the concern of OP and agree with him up to some extent. I think the rise in price would definitely help Bitcoin to attract many new eyeballs but I want the rise along with the rise of the user base. It doesn't make any sense to blow the price if there is no base for it. It will collapse if something like it is taking place in the market. We have already experienced the price rally due to the involvement of the big whales and institutional investors but when they decided to sell their investment, it resulted in a panic selling wave in the market and ultimately the correction of 65%.

I am glad you pointed it out. Exits are more important than entries for majority of traders (excluding scalpers). Cashing out continuously is a great way to secure your profits from cryptocurrency.

yang jadi tanda tanya besar adalah, dimana letak titik tertinggi Bitcoin? bahkan dalam beberapa bulan saja Bitcoin mampu untuk mencetak dan terus mencetak rekor baru. dimulai dari level $4,979 sekitar akhir bulan September, kemudian level $6,449 pada bukan Oktober, dan terus naik bahkan sampai diatas harga $8,200 per Bitcoin.

People who have invested significant amounts with the intention of winning that money back should probably follow this policy. To me personally, i prefer to hold whatever I have till i get a good technical grasp of this. If things work out the way they are meant to, we'd probably not have to worry about trading and stuff.

Another interesting way out is to use bitcoin to buy stuff. We need new stuff all the time. That money will be spent anyways. So instead of spending fiat directly on the good, I think spending it via bitcoin would be much better. I am still looking for ways to do this as the ecosystem isn't tuned to goods out here but rather to trading. I tried trading but realized i have not much love for it. All it gets you is money.

Yes there is now no improvement in the investment attributes of bitcoin. These are all empty words that are not true. There was a strong and stupid skew in the use of bitcoin, which already now causes insoluble problems. We need to use bitcoin for its intended purpose - as money and means of payment. Using it as a repository of value, or, more simply, for the purpose of speculating and extracting superprofits due to the growth of its price, can lead to nothing good. The bitcoin will grow from this in price, while because of the panic that has arisen, it will not depreciate.

A constant rise is important in the rise of Bitcoin because those who have invested in it will be wondering at the regular graphs in order to reach at the expected price they were looking for. This will assure the modern world to link with the frictionless technology both incase of investment and transaction system. Besides other advantages Bitcoin regular price will create a more positive site for people.

What you are saying is sad and true. I didn't cash out my btc ath and lost quite a lot of what could be my profit. The main reason of not cashing out was the constantly rising price and really high transaction fees. But that was stupid and greedy. Now I simply want the price to climb up to $15k or so and I'll sell everything I got, because when you have no btc stored you don't really care about the price and use the converted money the way you need.
If we keep holding our cryptos it will justify even more the way of treating it as property, not financial assets. We have to us them in any way we can to prove they are worth those prices they still have.

Price of the Bitcoin depends on supply and demand factors. These along with other factors like government regulations and technology decides the overall price of the bitcoin.
As with the passage of time Bitcoin's market cap has been increasing and continue to do so, there are fair chances of its price increase. :)

A trader won’t be a trader if he does not sells out and earn profit from time to time. This is what trading is. Otherwise, he will become a simple holder. As far as the matter of securing profits goes then in don’t doubt potential coins in any way because the boy who became a millionaire was basically a holder not a trader. Profit securing depends on asset that someone chooses. If it is a potential coin, he will never get disappointed.

but the volatility will remain the same no matter what people do. even if they stop hoarding and sell something at the ATH and take profit there and do all the things OP says, price will still remain volatile the same way it has always been.

the problem is not with what people are doing, the problem is because of exchanges! they are too small and hard to trust so they remain small. if you look at order books you can see that a large sell or a large buy can change the price a lot more than it should. and we all know that prices are set on exchanges.
and for that to change we need better trusted exchanges so that people don't feel the need to cash out and never leave an open order. with that the order books will be filled a lot more and the swings become less wild and that will decrease the volatility and we will no longer have 1000% rise followed by 70-80% drops. instead we can have a smooth rise of somewhere around 100-200% rise per year with smaller corrections instead of massive dumps.

The constant rise in price of Bitcoin is very important. This will help the Bitcoin with the main issue; Bitcoin can earn many investors from all over the world due to its stable rise in prices. This is what needed at the moment. Many people around the world are still afraid to invest in crypto because of its price. So if Bitcoin will show some constant rise in price it can boost the confidence of many people for investing in it.

I think bitcoin will not go high easily, contant move of bitcoin is not gonna happen because of its volatility. If bicoin able to survive the dump right now, for sure investors will come again, constant price is only happening at the bull market where we can see the long term pump and a short term dump.

It's very important because that's the reason why people interest to invest their assets with bitcoin. We know that currently the price really hard reach back to where the price actually belong to,  that's why this post was existed. But trust me in the near future the price will rise up even more higher.

You are right. As what we have experienced last December, bitcoin's price is at its ATH and that was the best moment to cash out and enjoy the profits. Since bitcoin's value is very volatile and unpredictable we can't even say that this is the ATH. We won't know when to cash out cos our greed will take over us specially if we see its value skyrocket. We still want some more of it because of our greediness to profit some more and that's the time we lose.

i agree, greed backfires for us. and this is what makes us a loss because it hopes the price will rise continuously, whereas on increase it has a saturation point so that prices have a deep correction. it is something we have to look at carefully

Off course this true fact. You should always take the advantages of taking out our profits and leading it towards the better equalisation of the investment. Thus it will secure our future investments also and will keep our earnings ATH.

Without any break if we keep holding in the immense thought that we will keep rising even after some dumps then thats not good way of login with it. Always keep it as liquid asset.

The cycle of investment must go on so that it can diversify both investment and ROI. Like the thought and math you worked out here.

You just say it, because you cashed your bitcoins at the peak of the price. And now let's ask the same question to those who bought from you these bitcoins for 20k $ ... they do not agree with your opinion.  ;)

indeed the bitcoin hoarding in a long time it will instead be a boomerang and loss for us, that's my opinion, because we do not know how and what happens next year, then it is better, if it is felt to us to melt and we play at the time short, that's what I think about it

It is not a good way to wish for something to go up every time. We should try to accept for what ever Bitcoin may turn out to be in the future.

Hard to get what you saying but you are correct once in a while we need to take out some profits to avoid feeling the pinch of inflation  :- when we had the chance, you can never know if price will maintain a certain range or continue to rise...so prudence is key to having a good crypto investment.

Most people will say that they are investing in bitcoin or in other altcoins for the long term and I personally invested in it for the long term too but taking profits from time to time is the smart thing to do because we are not assured of the profits for the years to come. If we are already in profit then take some because you may end up not having profits later on. There is a possibility that bitcoin would be more valuable in the future given that people are so positive about it but as you say, we should exercise prudence and if possible, diversify our investments and not only invest in cryptocurrencies but in other investment vehicles too such as real estate.


You are right. We still need more demand for bitcoin to attract more people to use it. Price at the moment is not attractive and people are not exuberant to invest in it because price is not moving that much. Taking into account the decline from all-time high, people would be attracted to invest when it shows sign of being bullish again. But still, when you are in profit, you should consider taking some of it because there are unexpected happenings that may end up for you being at a loss than being in profit.

I understand what you are saying and I clearly see what you ate trying to make us understand, I am also doing this strategy, since we are investing in bitcoin, and it is considered a very volatile investment, if you look at at within 6 months, you'll say that you need to watch the market closely since it might go down anytime, but if you take a look at it for 5 years, and invest in it for long term, just like what had happened, if we look back 5 years ago, you'll still say that you gained profit, and for me, that is a great investment, since in the traditional stock market, only blue chips company could do the same, but the returns is not as high a bitcoin.

I think the rise in bitcoin prices is very constant because bitcoin has a very limited supply and bitcoin also has a very high demand that makes bitcoin very fast to rise in price.

Correct to those who want to maximize their profits from peaks and crashes hoarding has its own consequences and ups so do the day trading and long-term holding, if you've taken the advantage from the ATH converting into fiat to be on the safe side last year then you probably going to make a buy from the lowest point of crash to stretch your own capital gaining a tremendous return of investments when the timing is right.

I would still choose stabilization over constant price. Though constant price may give you profit or loss while stabilization can give the world economy a revolutionary way of transaction that would boost various businesses and freelancers. I can say as years come bitcoin becomes more stable because of its large price. It may affect by whales and weak hands but it is a domino effect meaning no certain entity could dictate its price.

I agree. The focus should be on the technical side of Bitcoin instead of the market. If we look at how volatile the market is and has always been, and how many +50% corrections we have gone through, then it didn't even dent Bitcoin and its network. Last year was the perfect example of how the market just doesn't mirror its utility value and probably never will. This year's correction is the perfect example of how people's dropped confidence in Bitcoin doesn't mirror all the developments in the background, where on top of that, the difficulty has been going up continuously. In other words, don't trust the market, but just the technology.

On a very technical context you are right with your point. Bitcoin must have to rise in value before alternative investments draw a line to push it off the balance. On a very simple analysis to make it more understandable, the rise in the value of bitcoin represents people joining it. Without its price moving up then it would mean that it did not create a good market for itself and the less people did use it and therefore would lose to other alt investments. This idea gives us a clear message that if bitcoin fails the altcoins will dominate and it will be even hard for bitcoin to move up. No users no price going up.

Yes we need to accept the current market of the bitcoin and trust the decentralization one day the prices will recover so we have to hold our bitcoins until that,but most of the people get panic when there is a little correction in the prices and they will starts to speak that bubble is going to burst.This mentality need to be changed if the bitcoin need to stay long in the usage.

You cannot have a price decrease of 400% in a year or ever. The price can only fall to zero and that would be exactly 100%. Bitcoin is for speculation, especially for those who bought it with their own money. People who are hodlers are either those who bought their coins very cheap (and cheap here means dirty cheap) so they don't care what the price is, or those who bought at last November/December highs. And the latter are forced to be long-term holders, whether they like it or not.

You forgot to mention the amount of money lost to paying tax, if anyone is actually doing it! The reason it is important to rise continuously is to maintain interest, otherwise the media will ignore it and most of us won't be here.

Because with the constant rise of the Harag bitcoin will be beneficial for anyone who keeps bitcoin either in a lot that wants to in a small amount due, but if you've saved a lot of bitcoin and you hoard over the next five years most likely will benefit but if for example the price drops then it's a risk that you have to accept, because an investment in no harm as well.

Yes, its definitely right a constant rise of bitcoin is really important for this just mean that a lot of investors were investing and trust bitcoin. And this will also tells us that the business is good and profitable.

Now the price is a reflection of the public interest in the crypto market. while the market is very flexible and there are many factors that affect the exchange rate. someone will say that the growth of the rate will also ensure the arrival of institutional investors in the market.

Not a bad concept, but there is a fundamental problem with it: the alternative investments at this moment with low interest rates are really bad. Not even close to 5%.

Yes.I think you are right.It would be much better if we have some profits by selling during ATH and rebuy at a down price.B it at the same time,if the price goes very high like bitcoin's ATH price of 10,000 dollars from just 1,000 dollars,then holding would not be a wrong decision.

the market should nt be stable and consistent to one price it keeps moving then only as a trader can make money and it attracts more investors to invest in bitcoin market as well

It is important as to give defeat to the market negative sources and to attract the investments of people towards it. The price few days ago was 7k dollar and after that 7.2k dollar and right after that 7.4k dollar and yesterday it was 7.5k dollar. Today the price is 7.7k dollar so this is the increase trend and constant increase trend and this due to the demand of people as they want to get benefit of the market. This constant increase brings a hope of a green market soon.

     Valid point. Although I agree with your thought, I think that it is one sided. I mean, just think about it, you only made last year as an example. If you tried to make an example out of the start of bitcoin then I think that it will not agree with your point. You see, the prices has gone way up than what it was back then. Sure, if a person invests stupidly, then he will surely lose a lot of money. But if he only invests money he can throw away and just continue to put more extra to invest then not touch it, I am pretty sure that it will be worth a fortune if the history of bitcoins continue to move the way it did.

Obviously, it is important because at some point those who buy at low really need to wait for the increased. With so many hodlers of Bitcoin waiting for the continuous increased and it really shows why it is so important. Also, for the sake of gaining profits which everyone wanted to.

It is important for me because I am bitcoin holder, I keep holding it since the time I met bitcoin, I am also optimistic that bitcoin is the answer of all my problems financially, This is my only hope to get out from poverty, Bitcoin is a good source of income. As the value will rise, It is advantageous to my part because I gain profit from it which I used to support my needs.

Long term investment or hoarding doesn't mean that you abandon your coin, but it needs a constant watch, maybe not as often as the day trading but still it need to be watched, so if you think that the profit already suitable with your target then you can sell it, don't hold your coin until there is no value

Yups cashing out from time to time when hype means securing your income and your capital,in this way we can minimize our losses and maximizing our earning

This is what im doing ATH and i believe until now winning is what ive got and no signs of losing if constant

For now it is very important for bitcoin price to be going up and the pumping did help to publish bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.  I know we have to have stability in price in other to see bitcoin been adopted by business and nor profits organization.  I also think that stability is still for the future and now we need bitcoin above $100,000.

The constant rise in the value of bitcoin is important basically to cash out, you would want profit from the amount you have invested - you literally just wait for your money to grow and the only effort you need is to acquire more knowledge to sufficiently and effectively manage your coins.
Growth of the value of bitcoin also increases its popularity attracting more investors in the game.

The rise in price of bitcoin is affected by the supply and demand. If the demand is less then the price will decrease and vice versa. It depends on the amount of btc dug up day by miners. Its speaks to the market demand for this bitcoin paradigm

Yeah monitor is also important to do to see if the price is already in accordance with the target price you've made. monitor is important because we know that price changes do not occur constantly as prices go up every year? bitcoin price changes do not happen like that so the monitor really needs to be done

Well, I guess you were very lucky and I sincerely congratulate you with that, but imo it's from very hard to impossible to follow your advice from the OP since we never know when the the price will stop rising. For example, in May 2017 the price reached ATH at the moment, US$1,402, but was that the right time to cash out? Certainly not. And the thing is that we can say this only post factum. Many people cashed out in May 2017 and were regretting their decision several months later.

Nevertheless I think you are right in a way. If they bought at $300-$600 and partially cashed out at $1,400 to return the money they invested, we can't say that anything bad happened to them because their investment in BTC was profitable overall. It's just the question of how much do you want to profit from your investment. If someone wants to get at least any profit, in that case your advice is perfect for them.

Okay… you must have been into this business of bitcoin/cryptocurrency for a long time and I believe that you have seen a lot of people mention the word hodl. Hodl is about holding your investment till it yields you something bigger right? Good.

That is also the main reason why big investors usually come for Bitcoin to manipulate the price and make profit out of it, and if you’re smart you will be able to make something from the pumped price too. So come to think of when there is no more volatility to the price of Bitcoin… do you think anyone would be interested?

Most of the people are holding the bitcoin for this purpose but there are lot of traders are doing this as their profession so which makes the prices to swings a lot.But bitcoin was found to be used as an currency so it needs to have a constant value if it needs to stay long in this for usage.So people start holding them which helps it to have constant price.

We will not know if it will going to grow in the future, buying bitcoin and any coins is a big risk. Invest and buy then wait, thats is all that you can do. If it grows then it a celebration then if not just accept you loss. Buy again another until you gain profit.

yes I agree with you, the increase that applies to the consultant gives a good impact for us coin holders in order to get a huge profit.
and can change the lifestyle and family economy.

What if the value of bitcoin goes up every year and has minimum of 100% growth every year.  It's.  Going to be more beating the profit from other investment. If this ratio is kept up then you are going to benefit with more turn over. Anything can happen in the crypto currency market. Bitcoin growth trend has been much better so can really hope for big turn over in five years.

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If the price of bitcoin keep going up that  mean also that the return of investment is great and the market is more aggressive because investors who buy more bitcoins,

Actually constant raise of bitcoin will not important.If the price is fluctuates,we can buy valuable bitcoin at cheap price.It will not possible,if the constant price raise is happened.The constant raise is good news for the bitcoin holding people and not a good deal for new investors.

The price value of Bitcoin often time goes up and goes down dependent on the volume of investment in trading market, Yes, short term investment is more beneficial to long term with Volatility of the market affect the price value of Bitcoin. I am not comfortable with the notions of computation of % gain at the time the Bitcoin investment was made then, compute it after 5 years. the fluctuation in the market  price is dependent on the movement of investment in the trading market.this is not a solid investment, instead a digital currency.

 I believe that with the increasing of the demand on a market the price should go up and it would be healthy sign

Obviously a constant rise in the price of bitcoin means a constant increase of profits also in our end.And when it happens all investors on bitcoin will become rich or millionaires in just a short period of time.That's why we're keep on hoping and praying that bitcoin will increase gradually to solve our financial needs.

This is simply impossible. Everyone can only be a "paper" billionaire as there is no free lunch for all. As soon as a certain number of holders decide to cash out, the price will inevitably crash dramatically, and those who bought in at higher prices will be left either with real losses (if they choose to cash out no matter what) or holding the bag for the more lucky ones. To put it simply, only some (the first sellers) will be able to solve their financial needs, obviously, at the expense of all others. There is no other way or a way around this in a mostly speculative market to which Bitcoin truly belongs.

A constant price in bitcoins means that they regulation of bitcoins in the market have stopped because all the bitcoins will be in the possession of the people. I think only the people who would be having possession of these coins would only get huge profits and beside them, no other would get profits because they will sell them at that time and earn huge profits.

Fluctuations are bad because it will stop it from being used as a currency. I think that with time prices will start getting more stable.

but a lot of them would prefer to hold rather than sell not because they are being optimistic but because of what you have said GREED. yes it is actually right, lots of people tend to forget what really is important and what are their aim, and in the end they just keep on regretting that they didn't take action while its still hot.

If you have more bitcoin in your wallet,then a constant rise in its price is very important because a constant increase in value means a more increase in profit as well.

I think you are very professional look from how you analyze and observe the cypto world economy. frankly your analysis is very detailed and very detailed and I think your analysis is 100% true indeed we must be as deep as such as an economic target. but many rights should be considered when who is able to determine and ensure bitcoin prices at any time, while bitcoin is currently weak but not necessarily falling, additionally I monitor observing the price at any time bitcoin and make transactions of each movement will make it easier for us to reach the target which has been accurately measured. hopefully useful and successful for us all

The constant rise in the price of bitcoin is definitely important, it would mean we will have good profit, more investors and  positive feedback. It would help us gain more. In a simple note,  when price value increases all other things increases. In which it would have a great impact to those people interested  in crypto currency.

it consist of your mood and money increase for future, some people looking for rises 10 USD for 3 month give up, and stopping works with crypto

the price increases it motivates the members as we have the motivation to be able to participate in investing it is the factor that affects the supply and demand, if you want to invest then you have to check the price then you new invest

A lot of people are simply focused on the short term than the long term and they just seem not to get the fact that bitcoin is a market that can easily fluctuate. If anyone is looking at the longer term picture, bitcoin has been increasing over the years; at least, the end price of a year is always greater than the previous year.

Nevertheless, some feel even in FOMO, the price should just keep rising and in that case, anyone who wants to tap from that should just simply go learn how to trade and take advantage of the fluctuations in between the rise.

Increasing of prices in the market constantly is not necessary because we need to have a dumping time as well in order to earn more profit , the volatility of the market is the reason why every trader loves cryptocurrency.

Unfortunately, this can never happen. If we are to experience some stable growth, that would have been good but the fact remains that this is still a new space and the tendency of seeing some bullish and FOMO rise is still there and for things like that happening, it is certain that we will always get to see huge fluctuations for now until at least we have reached a level of mainstream adoption and bitcoin really being used by a lot of people as a currency.

Of course the constant rise has more positive effects for many users than the suddenly pump, not because it gives instant wealth, but all users may benefit equally, no panic selling like when suddenly pump happens, but we know that the price fluctuates so anything can happen

This depends upon the goal of an investor on how he/she views the investment whether for short or long-term. I strictly follow my own rule, which is: Never sell your coins to a price below from what you acquired them.
Generally, most investors sell their bitcoins whenever they an opportunity rises- which for example when its price significantly increases/decreases due to its volatility. Currently, its price is sitting around $6,400 which may be the perfect opportunity to acquire more. Some investors might see this phenomenon as "catching a falling knife" but to some, it's an opportunity to earn more income in the future.

The value of bitcoin is driven by multiple factors in the market. I doubt that a revolutionary payment method which is powered by the blockchain technology would fall to a price around $100. No one actually knows but people should always look it on a positive-realistic view- which is to sell/acquire whenever they see a window of opportunity.

It is not important for bitcoin to have a constant rise, the important thing in bitcoin is the development and also the adoption because if there will be adoption and a continuous development then bitcoin price movement will follow to the progress and it will go up to the highest possible price if there will be a good progress for bitcoin.

It is always better then the rise is stable and not once all of a sudden. If it is sudden rise it is equal chances that the fall could be drastic than that rise. Thus slowly the rise happen even the resistance levels increases and fall may not be the big and can be contained.
 

Many new users are very young and don't have experience with market.
So, they believe that price should rise all the time or something is wrong.
Because of such mentality we have many panic selling when price go down.
Experienced users don't worry about daily btc price because they are here for the long term. 

So your point is that we should not hold Bitcoin for such a long period. I agree with you too. We should cash out some of our profits regularly. Holding is a great option to multiply your wealth. But since crypto market is highly volatile and it price can crash any time due to any factor which affect its price like manipulation, media, government views, demand and supply. If we don’t cash out we will lose all our money when the price crashes.

good topic and explanation. for me any increase in bitcoin price is not important. i prefer bitcoin price to be fixed in a value. so people can shift their investments to alternative coins so demands to altcoins increases. it is very good for all crypto market.

Good idea. But who knows if that number is the all time high?
We have been in an amount of almost 20k per butcoin and yet a lot of people are making FUD's because they have bought at like 5 digits. They dont know. You cannot blame them too. They are not stupid. Just full of hope.

We can make this kind of analysis once we saw it already. But that is done. Have anyone really withdrawn at that price or just like any that is still looking for more then suddenly regrets came.

I dont think someone could make a perfect trade. It is just pure instinct.

Maybe it's a good idea that btc price will be fixed than seeing it in a downward trend.People will most likely lose their interest in bitcoin if they see its price continue falling and may not recover anymore.It's more good to see if the price continue to increase but this thing is quite impossible.There are really some factors that will appear that will somehow pull down the price gain.

constant rise of price of bitcoin is important because it will attract more investors.It is important because frankly, many people invested bitcoin because they are expecting good profit.

Indeed it is a 50-50 percent chance, but still we are holding unto our faith that it will rise. As you can see in the market mostly people when they see the value of a certain coin goes down most specially bitcoin, they all lose their grips and began to panic, whereas it rises up it will be an uproar and as expected more and more people will indulge.

It is best to not let our emotion to win over our logic because that is the time when we will lose control of our decision making and the panic will lead to disappointment at the end of the days so it is best for us to just be calm and if we have extra money then buy more bitcoin because the price maybe low compare to the price that we bought but we all know that it will go up again.

Yeah! I made that mistake last year/ beginning of this year and I am sure not making the mistake again. Until further notice, there will always be a FOMO rise and a bull rally and in a way, that pushed me to learn how to trade both long and short term.

There will always be fluctuations and rise will never be constant just like that. Most times it could be a short term retracement and could be a long term retracement like we are having now, so in that case, it is always good to learn how to utilize those moments for someone's good.

There is still some level of uncertainty and fear everywhere whether we like it or not, and most long term holders are always looking for a way to be assured that this is still a market that is going good in terms of value based on what they believe.

However, they have forgotten it is a market and things will not always be that way at least not for now when bitcoin is still more of a speculative asset. Nevertheless, the fact remains that it is still doing great and increasing year in year out.

There are many ways of investing and one is that buying the commodity when it is in a low price and sell it at the high price so when in case bitcoin end up having a low price in the year 5 then I would buy some bitcoins to make my average price per bitcoin low and when bitcoin come above my average price then I will sell some coins and live happily.

Yeah, like we had it last year when everything was going rosy until now. There is always that news that would never stop flying around when the market is going in an uptrend for a long time, as that brings about the mindset that the market is really experiencing some massive growth.

This usually tells on a lot of people as they get to either quickly hop in as well, and then before we know it could give rise to FOMO eventually. It is really a healthy sign but in the case where such FOMO arises like I mentioned which may happen for no reason at all, then that becomes unhealthy.

You are right my friend. If constant rise will become true, everyone who invest in Bitcoin will get good benefits in short time. But it is something unbelievable for nowadays. Reality shows opposite thing to that idea.

Because that is the most basic marketing that we can show to the people. IF you want to introduce them to bitcoin - you just have to show the graph indicating how stable the bitcoin goes every year.

Imagine that you bought an apartment on the cheap on some wasteland, where the wolves are howling and bankrupt on cryptocurrency traders. You know that infrastructure will be built around these houses: roads, kindergartens, fitness clubs, shops, a cosmodrome.

Perhaps you will wait until the terrible wasteland will turn into the town of the future of the project. The area will flow people who will be willing to give any money to live here. That's when you sell your apartment. And we all understand that selling it before is a terrible stupidity. You just have to wait.

In the case of bitcoin, in fact, there is no difference. The crypt is not a story about here and now. The crypt is perhaps the best medium-term and long-term investment of all possible. In General need a bit patience. Infrastructure near the house will be built earlier than you think. And there already and move out will not want.

Marketing is good but the quality of the product you offer is much more important. The price of bitcoin can not constantly grow so the chart will always be UPS and downs. It seems to me that volatility attracts only speculative capital. It will not make bitcoin popular. It seems to me that price stability will be more preferable quality. This will attract to trade for bitcoin shops and it will make bitcoin more popular than periodic price increases.

If bitcoin increases in price, it will be a window of opportunity for potential ico projects as it will be a place for investors to invest enthusiastically in bitcoin pricing to benefit many people who are private bitcoin

I dont get the point.
if you will not be wise in any investment you will do you will end up nothing.
even is stock market! you need to guard your investment.
make research day by day.

It depends on the situation, constant price increase will be only profitable if you are holding a huge amount of coins but you also need the time where market prices are dumping because in this way you can invest a huge amount, volatility of the market is the most important thing in cryptocurrency industry.

I think BTC has no breakthrough in usage scenarios, but as an investment, BTC is already an important investment target, which is more and more like gold, its value of use is no longer important, what matters is getting known as an investment.
The rise of bitcoin is driven by many factors. In the end, the rise in BTC prices is due to the increase in perfection of its investment attributes.

Although it is very good if the bitcoin rice is increasing constantly, but i think that it is not possible to happen, because we have always seen ups and down not only in bitcoin price but almost in every coin. It is actually depending on demand and supply, if the demand is increasing then the supply decreases and so the price also continue increasing, but if the demand of bitcoin is decreasing then its price will defiantly start decreasing and therefore it cannot continue its price to increase constantly.

This example just shows that it will be very illiterate to use bitcoin just to make a profit in the long run. Indeed, it is possible that in many years the price of bitcoin will be the same as in the period of its purchase. Much better in terms of making a profit will be the use of at least its big ups and downs in price. With a large price increase, it is better to partially sell your bitcoins, and the code is much lowered in price - to buy. If this is done with its very significant ups and downs, even the subsequent possible drop in the price will not be so significant for you. Moreover, I think that the profit should be periodically output to fiat, given the general significant risks of investing in the crypto currency.

Sure, and apparently, who does not want a huge profit? The thing is that some may never be fortunate enough to have gotten at a very low price and then watch it increase as they may have gotten at the peak and then the price starts dropping, and then they start entering a panic phase.

It is a crazy thing to experience most especially for those who were expecting too much and thought it is their time to get rich overnight. In that regard, it makes the idea of a constant rise to give hope, but not like it is very important as no market can ever keep having a constant rise.

It is important for the bitcoin users and with the other beneficiary of bitcoin for the rise in the price or value because we want to have a huge profit after buying. In this kind of industry there are two kinds of people or we can say two kinds of want. The other kind or want is that the price or value must have small price or value then the other side wants low price or value. Therefore; we can say that the constant rise and fall of the price or value of bitcoin is important so that there will be a flow of buying and selling. 

Constant rise is not even something we can experience as the market generally will always experience a trend and the trend may end up for a long time, but that does not mean it would be like that forever.

I believe so many people just usually expect so much from bitcoin, assume in their mind that this is a market that would all of a sudden start with a pretty huge demand, get their hopes up so much and then feel it is just going to keep going up and that puts them easily in an emotional state when the market starts doing otherwise.

The funny thing however is that this one thing that is for sure going to keep being an issue for most of the people that end up panicking because they are always bond to keep hoping when the market is down believing it would come back up and then psychologically as it keeps going down, we get to start seeing so many of them getting to want to just cash out the little they have left, assume they have lost already so as to move on with their life and then when the market starts climbing up blame everyone for everything only that they are just dumb enough to keep making the whales richer.

Consistency is good and this will attract a lot of new business investors into the cryptocurrency industry. But to extend,some businessmen in the cryptocurrency industry will not be happy for a continuous rise because they cannot always buy low and sell high.But that not withstanding, this will be good to attract new investors.

I don't agree with you, that it is important. The market is cruel, and for that constant rise is unbelievable. But i think good words about constant rise of Bitcoin. If that way every one, who invest had earn money, but don't forget, that it is a market.

Aside from the fact that it's quite impossible, the market's up and down keeps it healthy. I think eventually btc will lose value and it'll really be a bubble waiting to pop for good if it does't fluctuate. Of course it's important to rise so people can take profit but it goes both ways

Yes, the traders won't be glad if the price of Bitcoin will rise constantly (and slowly). The volatility of the crypto exchange markets attracts such people who want to invest in a risky asset. A constant rise is not important. In this case some large investors should constantly lift up the supply level of Bitcoin. It is almost impossible. If some crypto currency will crash, it is a good opportunity to buy the dip.

The constant rise in bitcoin value is essentially important to be cashed in, you'll want to profit from the amount you've invested - you're really just waiting for your money to grow and the only effort you need is to gain more knowledge enough and effectively. manage your coins.

That is why holding tokens are not totally adviceable and should be moderated. Many people here are always arguing to hold and hold their tokens for a long time. Problem is that, how long is that time. Like what you have stated holding it for a long time may result to big losses. What we can do is to get use it in a wise manner, make it as an investment not for a long time.

The average rise in past year is way good to fight against inflation. I do agree that this trends need to continue in future also.

it is important to see bitcoin rising as it will make our profit high we will not be compel to sell as if once price will keep on rising people will see the ray of hope so they will hold, but constant price will not give them any hope so they will panic which is not good for sure, I think it is good to keep on holding soon price of bitcoin will start increasing once again.

Constant rise in bitcoins price is not important because we need the volatility of the market in order to earn more profit since everyone is not wealthy enough to invest on bitcoins with a very expensive price.

I don't think people think it's important, in that I don't think many people expect for it to continue on for ever. It's unrealistic.

Yes.It's really fulfilling to see bitcoin price keep on rising so that we will make good profit at it and enjoy the fruit of our hardworks too.This will also attract investors to stay in bitcoin because they will feel secured with the money they invested and may expect good returns too in due time.

;D I can bet some long term bullish individuals are going to be taking this the wrong way but indeed it is the truth, most especially when the ATH is not really something that looks so true apart from just some FOMO speculation.

There is a real difference between an actual demand and a FOMO driven value. Asides that anyway, anyone who is investing in a market should always know better to at least find a way to monitor the trend so as to know when they should be out of a market and when they should be in.

No, he only referred to the $100 for someone who is just hoarding through the five years and not even making an attempt to enjoy the ATH. I believe the HODL thing is over emphasized and over stated and it is a good thing though for someone who may be looking at the huge return in the long run after investing just a little.

But let's face it, every market is bound to correct after some huge run with some crazy ATH, which makes me believe that it is better to always take some of those profit once in a while.

From year to year the price keeps on rising, but that’s due to the rate of demand and supply and increase in the number of investors. There are lots of people who are investing in Bitcoin and their number keeps on increasing, that’s the reason why price keeps on increasing. But I don’t really know if that’s good idea, but anyway that has been the way for many to make profit and you can’t change that.

I realize what you say. But success or failure in the market, this boundary is very fragile. Sometimes it is only a moment of hesitation that you have lost the chance to change your life. And with 10 years of development, it's a shame if you get out earlier. You could own bitcoin at $ 200 8)

I can say that people are being driven by the experts and by the brand names. Brand consciousness. This is easy trick if people start following their own minds and not what other says backed by their little experience. Also even if the market is red, do not sell.

If the price further fell, you still should not sell. This is because the market equilibrium reaches be it a bit late and that would be the time when the worth of your portfolio will be more than your initial investment.

Constant rising price of bitcoin is important because it makes the bitcoin more valuable and attractive to the bitcoiner and potential, investors, it's make sense when the price keeps on rising.

Its just because of bitcoin whales. Bitcoin whales are the real reason why bitcoin price is pump and dump so if you see that bitcoin pump and dump you should wait until the bull and it is a new. The first is to give up again this year, right now is to invest, the best cryptocurrency in our beloved.

For investors who tend to hold and make money or invest in cryptocurrency and let it rest there for a long time, it is very important that the value of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to go up, because if it wont, then their investments would end up being counted as a loss, an increasing value of cryptocurrency also means increasing value of the cryptocommunity.

In my opinion, stable growth is good enough for the holders and investors, but for the day traders, better would be to have some unstable and volatile jumps, then they would be able to trade and have their money.

What I think about the constant rise in the market value of Bitcoin is that it is very important for Bitcoin to have constant rising prices or in other words consistently rising. This will boom the output of the people who have already invested in the currency.

But this will hinder the future investment of those who want to join and do not have enough funds. So what is going is good. The fluctuation is something that invites the people to invest in the market.

When BTC rises, some other coins will rise and that is when investors sell their altcoins to the market to make a profit. So I think BTC is the king of the cipher market and they Determine the price of the remaining atlcoin.

change is really not constant it can be different base on what is happening in the market the increase now will not be the same increase tomorrow same when its getting dumped, but it is the basis where a certain currency or investment is heading base on its trend investors follow this on how they are gonna manage their port folios because change is inevitable.

Bitcoin has grown so much in few past years, we can expect it to repeat something like that in next few years, but as he has shown us recently, our anticipations in nothing, lol.

Small corrections are no problem for bitcoin investors but huge pump and dump destroy small investors. They lose all their money and they never think of investing again in bitcoin. With constant growth the early investors made thousands of dollars and now they are the richest people of their community. But now the price is volatile and due to this volatility many investors lost their money

well, yeah, hoarding or hodling your investments are not healthy depending on the percentage of yearly inflation, it is not wise to just sit and look at it for 5 years without even cashing out a penny, the statistics last 5 years ago is different from today, if you based your stats for the past 5 years, you will loose a lot, considering the new factors that affects the price, obviously, the factors 5 years ago was way to different, the market is ever changing, 5 years is too much. let us talk about 5 months rather.

I think that bitcoin needs stable, constant growth primarily because this factor attracts a large number of investors to the market. Stability is confidence in the future. When investors observe constancy, they are ready to invest large sums, as they know that such a move will bring them a good income.

Any reasonable investor will always know that it is impossible for a market to just keep going up and up without having some moment of retrace one way or the other. This huge movement in the price upward attracted a lot of investors, both most especially the inexperienced ones, but one thing though is that everyone is part of the big market, from experienced investors and traders to the inexperienced ones.

It is not realistic to just keep seeing the market going up without anything serious causing it than speculation, so I feel the importance is not even something we should be discussing.

Agreed. Aconstant rise in price even just a steady growth in bitcoin will make the investors even more attracted and feels even more safe and secured if they see their investments keep on growing along with time.Of course price fluctuations may be inevitable but hopefully the price won't always stay on downtrend.

It depends on the level of growth and the time it needs to establish and maintain it in a way we can have it last a very long time. We can't ignore the speculative aspect of Bitcoin, but below all that speculation hides a consistent level of growth that we managed to stretch out till where we are today. I always look at the price and at least cut off 25% of it during normal market activity to determine what a fair reflection of the price looks like. The lowest point I did it at was $7000 and if we deduct 25% of that price we see $5250 pop up, which I believe is a fair price. It doesn't mean much technically, but it did help me not take every latest exchange rate too seriously.

While you are correct when you say a constant growth will be good for bitcoin especially for all of those that see bitcoin mostly as a form of investment, at the same time you are setting the bar too high, while there are many investments that can give profits of 20% per year most people do not know how to find them and so the average profit should be something between 2% to 8% per year and that is an amount bitcoin can easily give each year.

In my own opinion, a constant price increase is not necessary because people still needs time to invest and that's when the market price are dropping so volatility is just fine at the moment for traders to get benefit.

Yes bitcoin price should be constant because if its go down it will affect all alt coin. So that's why bitcoin must stable or go up do that market will be alive and the same with users and investors.

The main reason I think it can't retain its value is- people are treating it as a stock and investment vehicle. However, the true idea behind bitcoin is for it to be a digital currency.

A currency is used to exchange goods and services, but as we all know mass adoption hasn't made it here yet so actual bitcoin transactions are minimal. Meaning a service or good was paid for in bitcoin.

From my understanding, this is how it should work... Bitcoin as Currency Example-i have $5000 in cash, i then purchase/convert my $5000 in cash into BTC. Then i use my btc to do everyday transactions. So let's say I buy a cheeseburger and for it in btc. The btc is deducted from my wallet and transferred to the vendor. Done its paid for. The value of bitcoin doesn't change, it only changes hands- the value still stays with-in the btc market.

However what is happening is... Bitcoin as investment vehicle Example- I buy $5000 in bitcoin, then 500 more people buy $5000 in bitcoin, we see a huge increase in bitcoin value, so I see my $5000 turn into $7000, so now I sell it. I walk away with $2000 of someone else's money. Now that money is taken out of the bitcoin market

The difference between a stock and btc- the stock is backed by a product that generates revenue. Bitcoin only has a value from the money someone invests in it. Because ideally if it were a currency- if I'm worth $100,000 USD, and I buy $100,000 btc- my net worth doesn't change, it doesn't become worth more. I simply just transact in btc aka DIGITAL CASH

In my own opinion, constant rise of price is not necessary in the market because if the price will keep on increasing then there is no people who will be able to invest since it was too expensive, volatile market is always required in order to earn more profit.

As said volatile market is a must, because only with that it is possible to make profit. Also it is the one that makes the cryptocurrencies unique from the traditional fiat which has a constant value. In specific this volatility need to be felt with constant price increase, looking at the present market there is no constant price increase, continued fall is taking place which will affect the entire networkand the users.

Honestly you're right.Volatility is what makes the market more unique and definitely giving chances to the people to invest while in dips and gain good income when prices are in high.I do not ask of a high constant rise of the price,just seeing the market having its steady growth is already good for me.

We often see a lot of fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin. Sometimes the price is high and sometimes the price is low but currently we are noticing some regular drops in the price of Bitcoin from quite a long time.Due to these many investors are cashing out and new investors are afraid to work with it.This makes the  price to fall more which is affecting the whole crypto market.So in order to maintain the stability of the market and to convince people for keeping trust in Bitcoin, a constant rise in the price along with some drops is very important.

I don't think that is the way to go. The price of BTC snd any other crypto currency has alot of factors, but the biggest of them is the supply in the market. What you're suggesting is that yhere should be a constant supply in the market but that would mean that the price of BTC and any other crypto currency will go down and be more volatile as it is.

Yeah that is absolutely right that how can a market be going up and up. This isn’t impossible but you can say it like near to impossible. Because there has been no market in this international world of business and trading that have ever shown such highness towards moon. Sometimes prices goes up but soon they just fall down to the bottom to equalize the effect. So that really can’t just happen.

Everyone in bitcoin is investing, but if the price does not increase then the sale can not be successful. And if the price increases for a long time the investor is better.

Yes I agree. Bitcoin can not constantly grow in price. At a certain stage, it will stop even by the results of its annual growth in price. Given its high volatility and the periodically negative information that emerges, it can also fall very often in its value from time to time. This may be an argument against long-term retention of bitcoin. However, I think first there will be a few such falls before investors give up the long-term retention of bitcoin.

Constant price of bitcoins is not necessary because the market price needs also to dump in order for other people to have the opportunity of investing while the market price is cheaper.

Ofcourse its important because manh well be grateful for every single increase because of good profits awaits.

At present, BTC is influencing the price of the whole market. When bitcoin goes down it pulls the entire market down along with it. Therefore, the growth of BTC has a big impact on the market.

I agree with that, we cannot remove the natural behavior of any market and that is to have a pump and also dump, it is not normal to see a market that is just going up and there is no going down because that seems like a scam and for sure it has no real value but only numbers in the market and it is not determined by supply and demand.

Constant rise in the price of bitcoin is very important to new and small investors to earn profit the easiest way even little by little.But I believe there is no such constant or persistent increase of market value in business trading especially here in crypto world.We just need to be wiser enough to choose what is the best coin to buy,when to buy and when is the right time to sell it to gain more profits.

You're right maybe a lot of people who want constant rise because they still keep bitcoin in their wallet,
but that is happening in the market the price is still fluctuating, but it's not a problem, that's what makes the bitcoin market unique

Constant rise of bitcoin price is so important to bicoin holders because if there is a good price always it will benefits the holder of bitcoins because anytime he can sell his bitcoins for it has always a good high price, so holders are always in comfort for their wallet.

It would be nice if the bitcoin price is always high it is a big benefits to all the bitcoin holders,but how about those new potential investors who want to invest in bitcoin,the volatility of bitcoin is an opportunity for all the investors to buy cheap bitcoin for investment.

I dont think hoarding of bitcoin may effect in losing,because those bitcoin millionaires use to hoard this coin wayback years and theres this highschool dropout that a millionaire by now just by holding bitcoins for almost 4 or 5 years.

It depent on how you can handle the holding because if this is only your extra money so why not wait for another years of holding

Only investors and traders are happy when the bitcoin show a constant rise in the price while the users who are using crypto on daily basis for various transaction they are happy if abnormal growth also happen and i think that always a constant rise is not growth.

Bitcoin price is benchmark to altcoin price. We know that bitcoin is main pairs in market and movement on bitcoin price affecting on altcoin price. I think most important on bitcoin price is always increasing year on year and that will keep our investment increasing

Because investors should be confident that their money will have some value in the future, perhaps it should not go up indefinitely, but a lot of people have invested to have some return, the ideal time would be when it stabilizes enough to be used to buy things in the real world.

yes that's a good thought. if I hold my coins and earn huge profits I will sell some of my coins as my profit and use them to buy back when the crypto market is decreasing. instantly my assets will increase.

So if its more about how useless our money could be  ;) bitcoin remains bitcoin as long as you have it and don't sell.
Inflation is a mechanism created by the governments to be able to keep on printing the money every year, i think that in 5 years you will be able to actually pay with crypto and don't have to change it into real money to avoid inflation.
I don't think that bitcoin need to be constantly growing, last year it took only 1.5 months for bitcoin to go from 6k to 20k $.

I don't think that it is required for bitcoin to keep increasing its price every year because we can still keep our investment increasing if we will be smart to choose what coins we will pick in terms of investing so there will be no reason for us to hold it for a long time because it is best and also one of the safest way to invest in long term.

Constant rise will attract people to invest here with more intentions and love for their investments. People are investing here with little hesitations because the market is unstable and they think that they may lose their invested money if market shows sudden fall which is possible anytime. In order to invest in favorable conditions the market should be a stable market with constant rising price.

In my own opinion, constant rise in bitcoins is not important because people also needs time to invest which is dumping of prices in the market so volatility is important in order for people to get a huge amount of profit.

people wants to earn a huge amount of profit and because of that, bitcoins should increase even more in the future in order for people to get ROI in their investments.

Bitcoin is now being understood by all to be the future of financial transactions around the world also, the bitcoin coins are constantly being mined and processed at a constant rate due to the increasing amount of servers involved supply means more demand and that translates into increasing price.

If people wants to earn huge in such a volatile market then they should know when to take profits. The problem is that some are hoping for a continuous increase in price and when its price dump, that's the time they would panic. One should take profit when the market is still green. Well that's the nature of people sometimes because we are an emotional being so when there are panic sellers, we tend to panic too and sell. Just like what OP said, one should take profit from time to time so that we are sure that we can have ROI even if we hold the asset for long term.

It's important because it creates an atmosphere of continued growth and progress. It's also a sign of more positive returns. Though, it's not that predictable, we must learn to control our emotion and not to panic. It's good that we have an idea to what's the proper time to buy, hold, sell, or invest, and on what's the proper way to manage risks and losses.

Even in an uptrend market, the market is still going to be fluctuating on the lower time frame, so you cannot see stable. However, a constant rise just makes it easy for everyone to invest or trade, knowing that no matter what they are making profits and that is what makes it different from a bear trend which has to do with a lot of uncertainty and people being careful when they should enter or not as the case may be.

Unfortunately, unless there is a real demand and a huge one, constant rise is not something anyone should expect and even with the real life usage or demand, it still does not guarantee constant rise.

to be honest I am quite happy with the effect of such a constant price increase unlike a ravine or wall that rises and falls so fast because there is a loss in itself but when hrga constant purchase of assets for those who invest will sangt profitable but it becomes a loss for traders, indeed such a thing as there is a shortage and an excess might influence the nature of such coins

That's good to have proper ways of managing risks, but how to do it when you encounter such great short comings in your lives. We need to be more focus on how to develop the self sustenance, even if bitcoin price fall down due to volatility factors that made the price unpredictable. Constant rise is very important instead of fluctuating market value, and because of that more bigger investors particularly the whales will take over so they'll be able to gain strong trust with bitcoin that will help the btc price became very profitable to invest with.

Our perceptions changes with price which is very bad and that is why bear market name came up. All we need is to think for our benefit which is possible in both stages of the market either in low or high market price. A constant or regular increase in the price of Bitcoin will create a positive perception among people which will encourage us the most and will be trending topic for us.

I don’t think it is important because many investors love volatility in the price because if the price increases regularly then new investors will not be interested in bitcoin investment. Therefore I think that ups and downs are the beauty of bitcoin and are the key to catch new investors. Constant growth means that one day nobody will be able to buy bitcoin.

I see a lot of reason in what the OP said, but the thing with bitcoin is that nothing is predictable and not everyone can actually be a trader to know when they should be cashing out once in a while or not.

It is normal to see the whales doing their thing since it is a decentralized market anyway which makes it very easy for them and with this in play, we cannot always see a constant rise since everything is based on speculation. The only time we can get to see constant rise is when the demand is really there for a long time based on real life usage and not speculations.

I guess that is the main idea. The idea of being an investor is to make money from our investment and seeing a constant rise from where we bought makes it appealing to see some huge profit on it in the long run.
However, constant rise of bitcoin's value is a dream and we sure do know it is something that is not possible. The market will always get to have some downward corrections no matter how things are once in a while, so it is necessary to know that no matter what, trends will change.