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Title: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on January 12, 2014, 11:55:51 AM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512 Hey guys, Sorry for my (yet again) unannounced hiatus for the past month or so - I have been extremely busy due to heavy travelling and am just back to Malaysia from China. I am alive, although not really well and extremely apologetic for what my delay have done. I've released a few escrows I've been holding in the order of magnitude and those I can clear within this hour. bitcointalk forum coins (of 1000 BTC) https://blockchain.info/tx/fe43797656265047b886de3bbac48d720cf60b4dfeadb61fa87434a80ba7f72b I'll clear the raffle coins once I figure out who won as I didn't receive a PM regarding this yet, but be rest assured that I'll clear this ASAP. I'll be back to clear everything else once I get back to the States again - I'm catching another intercontinental flight in roughly 12 hours which should last around 25 hours including layovers, and hopefully I'll use the jet lag when I reach there to clear the remaining urgent escrows. Best, John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJS0oJvAAoJEINT5jezqu6wTIsP/3BnMrqRuPxgfrdxYq9xpPRl wYnP8Xl3xBKgLTXePqwEsTJvuiPXlu3/NcrLiXz9nNUXoxDzE5eHiFN0cPV5d47o zvk37sd2prMWpLLiIn/LOvEu7xlY6VdkrKAdwF1UF5K+FJUhiTxU4cAti7HCn7ty d5nPBuj6JgsmpW+5ojaqjnfUx2KBRXGvi1/1vPgLIUB9WrX/JjPa7R61uX1CRKXl 7IaRBhVDVHyetmUqNTFx7EnTgBFIIH2sw0HD2upJ5vA4oEM1fLuCHqp76CR5qi9H XZSY3M/IYFxTia0FEZA87aEXd0B4TvpxHitnF8HvS0EDm2mAxOpj6cnM14eWhwYP uvvcR/NGlH6Kn7j8XGAFdC367eRFlbhBKrxjOsSN6U44cAOWfY5d6KJ1AC3yuRpD g0bJNpv5hVtBz5w1cE5EmvEXgOYl+UT0B8VXi/KSZYahFaofvh7Cie80LVKkwqIq mr9XUBDv9Zh/mNqdAdK2Hxo4VdgRiEWXWaWeof0ECSFtYlPdQPEmZ9fJnvTgA0iC JipoMg61FTiJy9NtX7vPj4d3VFTN4b8D4fhVhRDeMpQG6LRkiFTp4mbdtbsh11pc X0eVJUgSpd0+X4mwUtTRfGOoGPTRfJJRwKpZA/VTb2iJf0dZEEJrIMjpOEB8x6v2 RYKac5G48zh+QrkxW6Ly =St4X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Attached email from theymos: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 John K., Please sent the 1000 bitcoins you are holding for the forum to the following address controlled by me: 1M4yNbSCwSMFLF9BaLqzoo2to1WHtZrPke This is an official order. Your treasurer agreement requires that you execute this transaction within 14 days (except in certain special cases which I do not believe apply here). Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF4EAREIAAYFAlLQe3sACgkQxlVWk9q1kecFWAD/c0LAx07xCZaSIMau+8QU/xMb 29dESb1O13xhxuLysTYBAJW4NvGIn51E4NPHWIBmr7Iv2B/X/Xc7KePk5iBrK+wd =rMnT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: b!z on January 12, 2014, 12:03:53 PM Welcome back to the forums, John. It's good to see that you are still alive and well.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: empoweoqwj on January 12, 2014, 12:29:41 PM Yeah, welcome back.
There was a thread a couple of days back where people asked which escrow service to use and I said "John K", and someone replied you weren't around at the moment. Quite a surprise. so good to see you back :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Tomatocage on January 12, 2014, 05:52:43 PM Good to hear you're still alive, homie :)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on January 12, 2014, 06:09:36 PM Welcome back mate!
Don't really fancy the tone of theymos' email, but I guess that was "needed". Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on January 12, 2014, 06:33:59 PM I am glad to hear you are fine. I was becoming concerned with your absence.
Yep, look like our beloved administrator is in desperate need to cash out some BTC. ::) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 12, 2014, 06:40:26 PM its very nice to hear that you are alive and good and back again you unannounced absent good luck for you future work
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on January 12, 2014, 06:46:13 PM I am glad to hear you are fine. I was becoming concerned with your absence. Yep, look like our beloved administrator is in desperate need to cash out some BTC. ::) Theymos probably thought that John joined the dark side like so many forum members in the past. Glad to see you're still working for Obi-Wan. ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: mufa23 on January 12, 2014, 07:02:08 PM Nice! Glad you'll be coming back! Was starting to get worried. :)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: server on January 12, 2014, 07:13:23 PM Thanks John, please leave a note next time.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheFootMan on January 12, 2014, 09:34:31 PM This is quite obvious, but I still want to say it.
When you have monetary obligations, and things are happening that are planned, or things happens that are not planned - always communicate. When going somewhere, delays could happen, so leave a note in advance. I understand John K. is quite young, so he should just chalk this up to experience. The outermost important thing is that he got through at the end, but there's far too many fraudsters in this community, so it's better to plan ahead than be late. It's also worth noting that trust is gained the hard way, but easily lost. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Vod on January 12, 2014, 09:39:27 PM Welcome back John! :)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: marto74 on January 12, 2014, 11:25:30 PM welcome back
:) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Bitcoinpro on January 12, 2014, 11:26:13 PM The Legend Continues :D
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on January 13, 2014, 12:51:06 AM Welcome back from the dead well China
I kid hope Malaysia was nice and glad to read your not dead :D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheButterZone on January 13, 2014, 01:11:16 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on January 13, 2014, 01:42:44 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReCat on January 13, 2014, 01:43:06 AM Cool. I enjoy it when people are not dead. :)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheButterZone on January 13, 2014, 01:47:52 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Make it standard-issue for treasurers/escrows, and require "I'm ok" bursts. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReCat on January 13, 2014, 01:51:56 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Make it standard-issue for treasurers/escrows, and require "I'm ok" bursts. Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: calian on January 13, 2014, 02:01:36 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Make it standard-issue for treasurers/escrows, and require "I'm ok" bursts. Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Duos? How about 2 of 3s? Have each of the parties to the transaction be one of the three key holders. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReCat on January 13, 2014, 02:29:28 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Make it standard-issue for treasurers/escrows, and require "I'm ok" bursts. Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Duos? How about 2 of 3s? Have each of the parties to the transaction be one of the three key holders. ok, how about everyone here is part of the escrow? :P Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BawsyBoss on January 13, 2014, 05:40:02 AM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Make it standard-issue for treasurers/escrows, and require "I'm ok" bursts. Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Duos? How about 2 of 3s? Have each of the parties to the transaction be one of the three key holders. ok, how about everyone here is part of the escrow? :P Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Lauda on January 13, 2014, 05:52:22 AM Welcome back. Good luck with those problems.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 13, 2014, 10:43:23 AM Cool. I enjoy it when people are not dead. :) I also enjoy not being dead. One of my favourite pastimes actually. I must admit, I had assumed the the worst from this. Don't know whether that makes me a cynic or a realist ;D. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BawsyBoss on January 13, 2014, 02:06:50 PM Cool. I enjoy it when people are not dead. :) I also enjoy not being dead. One of my favourite pastimes actually. I must admit, I had assumed the the worst from this. Don't know whether that makes me a cynic or a realist ;D. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: guybrushthreepwood on January 13, 2014, 02:20:12 PM Cool. I enjoy it when people are not dead. :) I also enjoy not being dead. One of my favourite pastimes actually. I must admit, I had assumed the the worst from this. Don't know whether that makes me a cynic or a realist ;D. lol, yes, and I would agree, but some people tend to call me cynical when I think I'm just being realistical. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: geraFoerra on January 13, 2014, 03:36:37 PM Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Duos? How about 2 of 3s? Have each of the parties to the transaction be one of the three key holders. For example, you could have still "only one guy" as what happens now, but that lone guy would give a X-of-Y backup to other trusted people (2 of 3, 4 of 5, who cares). It's not even an issue of trust, it's also the issue of buses running over people. This can be done for wallets, but it can also be done to backup other things like account passwords so really there is no excuse, any serious service should have those kind of disaster plans. I like the 2 of 3 reputable escrows to release BTC. But the escrow service will cost 3x more :( Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: msc on January 13, 2014, 03:45:26 PM Welcome back mate! "1000 Bitcoins will always be missed." -- Max Cherry :)Don't really fancy the tone of theymos' email, but I guess that was "needed". Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on January 13, 2014, 04:05:54 PM Welcome back mate! "1000 Bitcoins will always be missed." -- Max Cherry :)Don't really fancy the tone of theymos' email, but I guess that was "needed". Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 13, 2014, 05:01:27 PM Cool. I enjoy it when people are not dead. :) just some peoples can enjoy this when peoples are not dead currently in many countries dozens peoples killing others for enjoyment :(Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 13, 2014, 05:37:19 PM just some peoples can enjoy this when peoples are not dead currently in many countries dozens peoples killing others for enjoyment :( not the enjoyment of those involved in the killings, usuallyTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: GreatBug on January 15, 2014, 03:59:38 PM Are you still providing escrow services?
Thanks! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: springa on January 16, 2014, 02:47:44 PM http://www.amazon.com/ACR-PLB-375-Personal-Locating-Beacon/dp/B005E1OU1A or something. The John K tracking device, for the needy escrow user ;D Only 30hr of battery life! Cell phone localization would be recommended coz he will charge it himself ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: cardcomm on January 17, 2014, 05:32:30 PM Or it could be escrow duos. Two escrows working together, both with access to the privkeys, so that if one dies of sudden plane crash, money is not lost. :) Duos? How about 2 of 3s? Have each of the parties to the transaction be one of the three key holders. For example, you could have still "only one guy" as what happens now, but that lone guy would give a X-of-Y backup to other trusted people (2 of 3, 4 of 5, who cares). It's not even an issue of trust, it's also the issue of buses running over people. This can be done for wallets, but it can also be done to backup other things like account passwords so really there is no excuse, any serious service should have those kind of disaster plans. I like the 2 of 3 reputable escrows to release BTC. But the escrow service will cost 3x more :( You are right, that IS an issue. Still, it does not make sense to be "one deep" in a service like this. There are just too many things that can go wrong. I've seen it time and time again in the IT industry. Only one guy "has the keys" and he gets sick, hit by a bus, chased by Chinese mafia... anything can happen! This is a personal lesson for me - don't depend on a single individual when $ is at stake. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on January 20, 2014, 04:28:08 PM Hi John K. I'll escrow your escrows if you don't mind. :) I don't fly often although we get hit by typhoons every now and then.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReCat on January 20, 2014, 08:05:12 PM John K needs a wife, a Ms John K, to also have privkeys in case if Mr John K dies or gets abducted by aliens or something.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Bitcoinpro on January 21, 2014, 04:54:15 AM i don't understand why is it so difficult to get in touch with the forum?! internet is available nearly every city on earth. there is 3G, 4G, internet cafes, free wifi hotspots, mcdonalds, starbucks, there is even satellite phones.... ??? free wifi :D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on January 21, 2014, 05:14:45 AM i don't understand why is it so difficult to get in touch with the forum?! internet is available nearly every city on earth. there is 3G, 4G, internet cafes, free wifi hotspots, mcdonalds, starbucks, there is even satellite phones.... ??? free wifi :D Next day JohnK gets hacked and leaves like a pirate :P Unless there was 2 JohnK's for casual logging in lol Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on January 21, 2014, 09:53:41 AM Welcome back buddy, was getting worried. He's gone again lolTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on January 21, 2014, 05:24:43 PM Welcome back buddy, was getting worried. He's gone again lolTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 21, 2014, 08:22:26 PM John K needs a wife, a Ms John K, to also have privkeys in case if Mr John K dies or gets abducted by aliens or something. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRX__Axg59UMEnOCBGlie3LRSFV3rqbmkVKsltdJAkn1mc9Je3v "Is that John, the escrow guy?" "Yes, my Lord!" Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 23, 2014, 08:26:19 PM https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_MMZfYhT6bTovA3Z7F9HFml55dxZQD1aRU_w7euYB5q9yMw4X3g
"It's from John K. He's... he's... OMG!" ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on January 23, 2014, 10:06:31 PM "It's from John K. He's... he's... OMG!" ...he's... resting!? http://uppix.com/f-notdead52e191be001536d8.png Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on January 23, 2014, 10:46:25 PM a flight that will take 24 hours.. sure... it has been like 10 days.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: cardcomm on January 24, 2014, 02:42:36 AM a flight that will take 24 hours.. sure... it has been like 10 days. Maybe he likes to travel old school and took an ocean liner... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on January 24, 2014, 03:06:08 AM a flight that will take 24 hours.. sure... it has been like 10 days. Maybe he likes to travel old school and took an ocean liner... Lets hope it wasn't the titanic then ^_^ Although in this case Condition One was met where he has a Mrs. John K But Condition Two was not met which was that the private keys sunk with the ship ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: southerngentuk on January 24, 2014, 09:18:40 AM John K needs a wife, a Ms John K, to also have privkeys in case if Mr John K dies or gets abducted by aliens or something. You think that's a good idea? Do you have a wife? You obviously haven't met mine ! ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on January 24, 2014, 03:13:36 PM a flight that will take 24 hours.. sure... it has been like 10 days. Maybe he likes to travel old school and took an ocean liner... Or he took the fast and furious 6 last scene flight.. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 25, 2014, 03:02:17 PM a flight that will take 24 hours.. sure... it has been like 10 days. Maybe he likes to travel old school and took an ocean liner... Or he took the fast and furious 6 last scene flight.. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on January 25, 2014, 08:41:12 PM op will surely deliver lets just wait
http://images.christianpost.com/blog/full/17360/skeleton-waiting.jpg Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 27, 2014, 12:11:32 AM Quick aside.
In the near future, I wish to go to the local movie theatre here in Sandwich, IL, hence asking for suggestions as to what movie I should see. Afterward, I'm walking over to the nearest restaurant to enjoy a Chicago Hot Dog. Here's a pic of that restaurant: http://johnnykshotdogs.com/images/locationSlide.jpg In case you don't believe me: https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=Johnny+K%27s&fb=1&gl=us&hq=%22johnny+k%22+sandwich&cid=14280177797889700277&ei=WaTlUqW5EeyFyQGOvYAo&ved=0CKgBEPwSMAo Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 27, 2014, 12:27:37 PM Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on January 28, 2014, 08:03:24 PM I was wondering where they put this thread. For a second there, I thought this too was missing.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on January 28, 2014, 08:42:49 PM I've seen people asking for John K. escrow services today.
No offense intended, but can anyone at least demote him from global mod status, while leaving a warning on his "Custom Title", please? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on January 28, 2014, 08:52:55 PM I've seen people asking for John K. escrow services today. No offense intended, but can anyone at least demote him from global mod status, while leaving a warning on his "Custom Title", please? He's already been demoted to Staff from Global Mod. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on January 28, 2014, 09:05:43 PM I've seen people asking for John K. escrow services today. No offense intended, but can anyone at least demote him from global mod status, while leaving a warning on his "Custom Title", please? He's already been demoted to Staff from Global Mod. You might want to remove him from the trusted escrow list too. There's also a couple of others on there who haven't logged in in a while as well. mjester93 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=77766 hasn't logged in since May. The links on the last five escrowers on the list are a bit suspicious too. They look like this: https://109.201.133.195/index.php?action=profile;u=161786 and come up Untrusted. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: smeagol on January 29, 2014, 02:12:38 AM Theymos probably thought that John joined the dark side like so many forum members in the past. Glad to see you're still working for Obi-Wan. ;D Haha, nice one! Good to see you back, John K! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on January 29, 2014, 02:21:36 AM Theymos probably thought that John joined the dark side like so many forum members in the past. Glad to see you're still working for Obi-Wan. ;D Haha, nice one! Good to see you back, John K! Na he went away again Logged in paid theymos and back to the John K tracking device :P Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Sonny on January 29, 2014, 04:53:32 AM Theymos probably thought that John joined the dark side like so many forum members in the past. Glad to see you're still working for Obi-Wan. ;D Haha, nice one! Good to see you back, John K! After coming back to make 2 posts, John is gone again (since 12 Jan). ::) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on January 29, 2014, 02:39:46 PM
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on January 29, 2014, 02:45:13 PM Aaaand this is why you don't do "one-man" escrows.
Anyone can be hit by a bus at any time, regardless of how trustworthy they are or seem. I would say more at this point, but I need to start my tour, people are waiting for their bus. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on January 29, 2014, 07:59:51 PM Damn so what the hell is happening here... another month to wait or what
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on January 30, 2014, 03:45:18 PM nobody noticed my secret message? ;D I did, but it conflicts with my bus theory. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 03, 2014, 12:59:56 AM Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on February 03, 2014, 03:26:26 PM Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle. I think he is going back on drone and by mistake drone throw him in Afghanistan instead of his homeland ;)Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: cardcomm on February 03, 2014, 08:59:55 PM Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle. I think he is going back on drone and by mistake drone throw him in Afghanistan instead of his homeland ;)WTF? There was a time when I thought certain people could be trusted on this forum based on their past history and good feedback. Let this be a lesson to me - NEVER trust ANYONE online. Bummer. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on February 03, 2014, 09:23:30 PM Quote from: theymos Active and very trustworthy global moderator of this forum. Quote from: Kludge If John K ever commits an immoral act, I'll become an uncompromising cynic. Level-headed, humble, and genuinely interested in helping others, John is by far the best escrow agent to ever exist within the Bitcoin community, and otherwise an incredible asset. Quote from: ninjaboon JohnK is a fellow Malaysian and highly recommended for escrows. Quote from: TradeFortress Trusted escrow service. Make sure to verify that the escrow addresses and contract are actually signed by John! Don't just go "oh, it looks like gpg, hopefully it's legit" See why public positive ratings are bad and why we should stick only to negative ones (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337207.msg4675762#msg4675762)? To conclude, here's the most dangerous one in my opinion (positive feedback from 2014, months after John has gone MIA): Quote from: theymos Held BTC for the forum. Please, people, quit posting "positive trust", this is a scammer's godly tool. Time to remove all those ratings, too. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: theymos on February 03, 2014, 10:59:54 PM To conclude, here's the most dangerous one in my opinion (positive feedback from 2014, months after John has gone MIA): Quote from: theymos Held BTC for the forum. Please, people, quit posting "positive trust", this is a scammer's godly tool. Time to remove all those ratings, too. He held 1000 BTC for a long time and then returned it at around the time of that rating (after annoyingly being MIA, but still). This is worthy of positive feedback in my book, and it's strong evidence that John will probably not intentionally scam anyone. I agree that it's unprofessional for him to leave everyone hanging, but sometimes life happens and these things become unavoidable. (I don't know his exact circumstances.) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on February 03, 2014, 11:35:07 PM This is worthy of positive feedback in my book I 100% agree, and am sure you slept a sound night after he finallly sent back those coins. I understand why you would put a positive entry in YOUR book. What I disagree with is the fact that this feedback made it OUT of your book. The next user subscribing here will see that you endorsed John K. (again) publicly, and thus will be tempted to trust him, when his trustworthyness is highly questionable, now. Just don't allow public +Trust. All big-time scammers had an extensive list of +Trust. -Trust is the way to go. EDIT: btw, theymos, you still have a +Trust rating posted for TradeFortress "in your book"... :'( Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on February 04, 2014, 12:23:26 AM I'll try one last time to make my point.
I register for the fist time on this forum. "Bitcoin, cool! I want some, too!" "Oh, a marketplace sub!" *clicks* "This guy has a high rating, all green, I'll buy from him, and send first, since I'm new" "Oh, a scam accusation sub. I should post here now, I guess... :-[" "I've been fucked by the whole community". vs "Bitcoin, cool! I want some, too!" "Oh, a marketplace sub!" *clicks* "Ewwww, everyone has red ratings, that's horrible. I'm going to have to make my own opinion before anything else." "Ok, this guy seems legit, I'll +trust him in MY book". "Cool, now he's greenish, nice tool to remember that he's got my trust." "If he fucks me, then I won't be able to blame anyone else than him and me". As much as I know it takes a little stupidity to send first to some random "trusted" user on a random forum, this still creates confusion and suspicion, and could simply be avoided by keeping the +Trust private. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 04, 2014, 12:40:09 AM You have to spam his email inbox to get him back here again
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on February 04, 2014, 08:52:52 AM It's just unprofessional to leave people in the lurch like this. Especially when he's getting $2k in fees for just holding the raffle coins.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: cardcomm on February 04, 2014, 10:15:52 PM This is worthy of positive feedback in my book I 100% agree, and am sure you slept a sound night after he finallly sent back those coins. I understand why you would put a positive entry in YOUR book. What I disagree with is the fact that this feedback made it OUT of your book. The next user subscribing here will see that you endorsed John K. (again) publicly, and thus will be tempted to trust him, when his trustworthyness is highly questionable, now. Just don't allow public +Trust. All big-time scammers had an extensive list of +Trust. -Trust is the way to go. EDIT: btw, theymos, you still have a +Trust rating posted for TradeFortress "in your book"... :'( i think you are using the trust system wrong. It has nothing to do with trust. Perhaps you could explain how to use the trust system then. How does the trust system have nothing to do with trust? Clearly I need a lesson in the proper way to interpret a user's "trust" rating because right now it seems more harmful than useful. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 08, 2014, 06:20:26 AM Winners 50 BTC 66. imamanandyou (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85102) 5 BTC 169. vendetahome (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130352) 136. hope4me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119068) 36. datguyian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=94179) 5. Amph (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99297) 90. clearcrystal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130801) 1 BTC 108. jerelimZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117944) 122. stromma44 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92556) 19. pvtbrutus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=120625) 72. CoinDiver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60653) 57. adworker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81592) 1. uvwvj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93527) 27. yurimir (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=126740) 157. pokerFace2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117968) 150. johnmatrix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98712) 161. kolesozw (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85150) 28. AquaMan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128283) 30. teste (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=41742) 91. nerFohanzo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107061) 103. hellfrozenow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88780) 131. AFox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=129998) 59. over1977v (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88181) 80. terman45x (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=122587) 84. poewerden (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=121514) 69. Unluckyduck (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93683) 128. xephireusMMX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85695) 7. miner2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=124938) 100. zeraTunerse (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128015) 54. testconpastas2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52834) 173. zeta1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147677) 29. bigtimespaghetti (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65317) There have been the following address changes: Unluckyduck: 13i2b4TvxtYh85vSPLZnaXVJzgRGJYofWh Amph: 1MaUT3H6rHpZKDSuBxfVuXqgsYrTpNn1zm imamanandyou: 1BQxQ5a3STdDuAh1v1ro591cfdavLaRc5X clearcrystal: 1EvG9e15UVWkziBAHPLHrygnwYYCo4yrYj bigtimespaghetti: 1KwieREHm8nz2s5Pmbt9Qf7SG8EMGWfwDv imamanandyou, Amph and clearcrystal should confirm that these are indeed their intended addresses. I have sent a PM to vendetahope, hope4me and datguyian. thankyou, Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on February 12, 2014, 06:36:36 PM now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: HellDiverUK on February 12, 2014, 06:47:49 PM their money. ::)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on February 12, 2014, 07:05:17 PM now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money I'm tired of waiting for my coin. Bitcoin lost half it's value since early January. IMO, coinroll should pay out the prize to the winners and wait for John K themselves. It's good PR.Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on February 12, 2014, 07:15:02 PM now almost one month and again no response and no contact peoples fed up with this atitude and waiting for releasing of there money I'm tired of waiting for my coin. Bitcoin lost half it's value since early January. IMO, coinroll should pay out the prize to the winners and wait for John K themselves. It's good PR.Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM He's still holding all that raffle money? Can't Theymos contact him and ask him to send the money out? I think he returned the forums money he was holding pretty swiftly.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 12, 2014, 07:24:20 PM He's still holding all that raffle money? Can't Theymos contact him and ask him to send the money out? I think he returned the forums money he was holding pretty swiftly. yes you right but he is anonymous no one know about him who now about him can any one have his contact its biggest question Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 12, 2014, 07:30:57 PM He's still holding all that raffle money? Can't Theymos contact him and ask him to send the money out? I think he returned the forums money he was holding pretty swiftly. yes you right but he is anonymous no one know about him who now about him can any one have his contact its biggest question Theymos seems to be able to contact him and get a response, so have people tried that route? Is he ignoring all other forms of communication - emails etc? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: howzar on February 12, 2014, 08:22:13 PM All good guys, he is not dead!! :o
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 12, 2014, 08:27:13 PM All good guys, he is not dead!! :o nobody saying he is dead but its very long time and he is not responding just its a big issue for all which have coins under his custody Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 15, 2014, 07:28:37 PM He said he will come back to the unites but he is acting like a total scammer
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 15, 2014, 07:30:06 PM He said he will come back to the unites but he is acting like a total scammer he is not a scammer may be have some serious issues with his health and main thing nobody now about him Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on February 16, 2014, 01:46:48 AM Did anyone has checked John's ID?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on February 16, 2014, 06:24:38 AM Did anyone has checked John's ID? Drunk post? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheButterZone on February 16, 2014, 10:47:00 AM Is it that hard for the people who verified his PGP messages (and have his email address) to look up his email address on Facebook? Seriously?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on February 16, 2014, 04:22:31 PM Is it that hard for the people who verified his PGP messages (and have his email address) to look up his email address on Facebook? Seriously? I think admin can contact him and may be he know all about him but we have never any update from any one for last 1 monthTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 16, 2014, 04:44:16 PM Is it that hard for the people who verified his PGP messages (and have his email address) to look up his email address on Facebook? Seriously? I think admin can contact him and may be he know all about him but we have never any update from any one for last 1 monthHas you or anybody else contacted an admin to contact John about this? I think that's the only way you'll get a response. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 16, 2014, 05:52:14 PM Is it that hard for the people who verified his PGP messages (and have his email address) to look up his email address on Facebook? Seriously? I think admin can contact him and may be he know all about him but we have never any update from any one for last 1 monthHas you or anybody else contacted an admin to contact John about this? I think that's the only way you'll get a response. I sent a pm to theymos and he is not responding, I think this is his email address the.john.is.here@gmail.com Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 16, 2014, 05:58:09 PM Quote I sent a pm to theymos and he is not responding, I think this is his email address the.john.is.here@gmail.com yes, im sure that it is his email address. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 16, 2014, 06:04:25 PM Is it that hard for the people who verified his PGP messages (and have his email address) to look up his email address on Facebook? Seriously? I think admin can contact him and may be he know all about him but we have never any update from any one for last 1 monthHas you or anybody else contacted an admin to contact John about this? I think that's the only way you'll get a response. I sent a pm to theymos and he is not responding, I think this is his email address the.john.is.here@gmail.com I don't think he usually replies to PMs unless it's urgent, but I think he should respond to this or at least contact John for you to try get an update on what's happening. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MakeBelieve on February 16, 2014, 06:07:03 PM So what's the currnt update on this? He still hasn't returned and how much Bitcoin is he holding at the moment for people?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 16, 2014, 06:10:22 PM So what's the currnt update on this? He still hasn't returned and how much Bitcoin is he holding at the moment for people? $66,100 usd (100 btc) only in the coinroll raffle, not counting other scrows. his facebook is "John Koh" found him by his email address, most of his friends are from malasya, so i think its him. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 16, 2014, 06:13:49 PM many peoples waiting for him he held a big amount of forum also and thymos already send him message about these funds but no updates
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: theymos on February 16, 2014, 06:22:17 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 16, 2014, 06:29:05 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: theymos on February 16, 2014, 06:30:27 PM No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MakeBelieve on February 16, 2014, 06:32:00 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on February 16, 2014, 06:34:04 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MakeBelieve on February 16, 2014, 06:39:06 PM Hopefully things will turn out ok for him if it is due to is health do any other members of the forum know him personally or have a way of contacting him?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 16, 2014, 06:41:06 PM No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. Could you not send him a quick email asking if he can resolve the raffle and his escrows as soon as he can? I know people have probably emailed him several times but I think this would probably get a quicker response and resolve from you. I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? I think he is still a staff member. Still says Staff on his profile. If he was going to run I'd imagine he would'vde took the forums money too, but you never know. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 16, 2014, 06:41:22 PM Hopefully things will turn out ok for him if it is due to is health do any other members of the forum know him personally or have a way of contacting him? we all now this is anonymous place just because of this nobody known others we all are doing here all this just as aliens ;) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MakeBelieve on February 16, 2014, 06:43:55 PM Hopefully things will turn out ok for him if it is due to is health do any other members of the forum know him personally or have a way of contacting him? we all now this is anonymous place just because of this nobody known others we all are doing here all this just as aliens ;) I would of thought him being a escrow he would of had back up plans if anything happened and ways of people contacting him. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 16, 2014, 07:02:11 PM Hopefully things will turn out ok for him if it is due to is health do any other members of the forum know him personally or have a way of contacting him? we all now this is anonymous place just because of this nobody known others we all are doing here all this just as aliens ;) I would of thought him being a escrow he would of had back up plans if anything happened and ways of people contacting him. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: danyy on February 16, 2014, 07:10:46 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? But the scrowed bitcoins hasnt been moved from the original bitcoin address , so maybe he has other troubles. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MakeBelieve on February 16, 2014, 07:26:23 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? But the scrowed bitcoins hasnt been moved from the original bitcoin address , so maybe he has other troubles. Yes that's only for the raffle you are talking about? He has different addresses for every single escrow which not many people will be watching I'm not saying that he has done a runner because hes handled millions worth of Bitcoin without any trouble but there is a possibilty. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 16, 2014, 07:29:56 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. You might want to remove his custom title because it is confusing I keep thinking he's still a staff member. So do you think he has run with the money or is trying to delay things and make a profit by selling and then buying back? But the scrowed bitcoins hasnt been moved from the original bitcoin address , so maybe he has other troubles. Yes that's only for the raffle you are talking about? He has different addresses for every single escrow which not many people will be watching I'm not saying that he has done a runner because hes handled millions worth of Bitcoin without any trouble but there is a possibilty. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on February 16, 2014, 08:48:56 PM Did anyone has checked John's ID? Drunk post? No, just common sense, which many forum users do not use around here. Does anyone ever confirmed his REAL identity? Does anyone ever confirmed he exists outside this forum? Otherwise you all could be dealing with someone you think you know but in reality is just a fictional character created by someone. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on February 16, 2014, 09:25:16 PM Does anyone ever confirmed his REAL identity? Does anyone ever confirmed he exists outside this forum? Otherwise you all could be dealing with someone you think you know but in reality is just a fictional character created by someone. I can't picture any fictional character giving back 1000BTC before going MIA again.You should probably be worried more than suspicious, here. ;) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on February 16, 2014, 09:46:29 PM Does anyone ever confirmed his REAL identity? Does anyone ever confirmed he exists outside this forum? Otherwise you all could be dealing with someone you think you know but in reality is just a fictional character created by someone. I can't picture any fictional character giving back 1000BTC before going MIA again.You should probably be worried more than suspicious, here. ;) How do you know the person which gave back 1000 BTC is not the same person which received the 1000 BTC? Let me guess... You do not. That information was spoon fed to you. So your assumption that John is a real character based on that information is certainly not credible. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 16, 2014, 10:03:28 PM Mm good theory, but his facebook its real
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on February 16, 2014, 10:17:47 PM Did anyone has checked John's ID? Drunk post? No, just common sense, which many forum users do not use around here. Does anyone ever confirmed his REAL identity? Does anyone ever confirmed he exists outside this forum? Otherwise you all could be dealing with someone you think you know but in reality is just a fictional character created by someone. I just meant because of the odd wording, it is a good question though. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on February 17, 2014, 01:13:06 AM How do you know the person which gave back 1000 BTC is not the same person which received the 1000 BTC? The address that held the 1000 BTC was confirmed to be under the control of John K. Then it moved back to Theymos. And then he signed a message stating that he returned it. Even without the GPG signed messages, just look at the blockchain. Someone got 1000 BTC. It sat there for a long time. Then it went back to someone else. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Sonny on February 17, 2014, 01:30:34 AM How do you know the person which gave back 1000 BTC is not the same person which received the 1000 BTC? The address that held the 1000 BTC was confirmed to be under the control of John K. Then it moved back to Theymos. And then he signed a message stating that he returned it. Even without the GPG signed messages, just look at the blockchain. Someone got 1000 BTC. It sat there for a long time. Then it went back to someone else. I guess what he really want to say is, what if "John K" is just a sockpuppet of Theymos... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 17, 2014, 01:46:01 AM That theory about theymos is absurd but we appreciate if he can do something to contact him
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on February 17, 2014, 06:00:18 AM That theory about theymos is absurd but we appreciate if he can do something to contact him yes now time for theymos to do something about this mean just try to contact and check about his ID what happen to himTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Truecoin on February 17, 2014, 10:56:47 AM This is a good lesson to never do escrow with an anonymous person no matter how good his online rating is. If they are unwilling to show a Passport and a Driver's License with a clear photo including house address they shouldn't be allowed to provide an escrow service. About the 1000 bitcoin transfer. I think nobody is dumb enough to entrust such an amount to a total stranger not knowing their full name and address and gov ID number. Bitcoins don't weigh much. They don't need vast amounts of storage like physical stuff. Why would anyone keep 1000 bitcoins with a random person on the internet..... just doesn't make any sense. It depends on when the escrow was done. Some years ago a pizza cost 10000 BTC... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 17, 2014, 04:52:28 PM Glad to see you again. He's been and gone MIA again. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 20, 2014, 04:28:29 AM Should we start the first scam acussation against a staff member??
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on February 20, 2014, 05:15:57 AM Not the first.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: giletto on February 20, 2014, 05:28:17 AM Welcome back, hope your Escrow is available again.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 20, 2014, 05:30:56 AM the first administrator so, because he had the admin tag before going mia
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on February 20, 2014, 06:21:49 AM You guys need a replacement? (mod/admin/forum something) Not that I want to turn into a future scammer or anything but I don't foresee any time in the near future where I'm not at least available to reply within a day.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on February 20, 2014, 07:48:36 AM Does no-one know anyway to contact him? Raffle coins have yet to be paid out... almost 2 months after the drawing.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on February 20, 2014, 08:32:52 AM Should we start the first scam acussation against a staff member?? We could add a Theymos conspiracy theory in here as well but John is quite lateTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 20, 2014, 10:08:12 AM Does no-one know anyway to contact him? Raffle coins have yet to be paid out... almost 2 months after the drawing. Theymos stated he's contactable via email and someone posted his alleged one somewhere in this thread I think. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 20, 2014, 02:20:53 PM Does no-one know anyway to contact him? Raffle coins have yet to be paid out... almost 2 months after the drawing. Theymos stated he's contactable via email and someone posted his alleged one somewhere in this thread I think. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Baitty on February 20, 2014, 02:25:32 PM So no one ever verfied John K's identity even though he was handling multi millions once upon in time in a escrow?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 20, 2014, 02:48:59 PM Does no-one know anyway to contact him? Raffle coins have yet to be paid out... almost 2 months after the drawing. Theymos stated he's contactable via email and someone posted his alleged one somewhere in this thread I think. Is he? Has he said he's doing this? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Baitty on February 20, 2014, 02:50:01 PM Does no-one know anyway to contact him? Raffle coins have yet to be paid out... almost 2 months after the drawing. Theymos stated he's contactable via email and someone posted his alleged one somewhere in this thread I think. Is he? Has he said he's doing this? Theymos said he has his email nothing about contacting him I don't think. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on February 20, 2014, 04:13:06 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 20, 2014, 04:18:14 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress. Why would he send the forums coins back when requested if he was going to do a runner? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on February 20, 2014, 04:46:31 PM Theymos never says he is going to contact him but last time he send him email and john send forum money back to him just because of this few members accepting he send him email again and try to contact him lets see what happen
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on February 20, 2014, 05:13:20 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress. Why would he send the forums coins back when requested if he was going to do a runner? Perhaps he decided that he was half honest, so he made "a runner" with half of the stash. The point is, if he was a good escrow agent, why do not have a person of trust to manage his business in case of his absence? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 20, 2014, 05:27:38 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress. Why would he send the forums coins back when requested if he was going to do a runner? Perhaps he decided that he was half honest, so he made "a runner" with half of the stash. The point is, if he was a good escrow agent, why do not have a person of trust to manage his business in case of his absence? Haha, maybe he has a split personality. One's very honest and the other is a scammer ;D. I don't think a "good" escrow agent would disappear without warning whilst holding a lot of peoples' money though. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on February 20, 2014, 05:33:25 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress. Why would he send the forums coins back when requested if he was going to do a runner? Perhaps he decided that he was half honest, so he made "a runner" with half of the stash. The point is, if he was a good escrow agent, why do not have a person of trust to manage his business in case of his absence? Haha, maybe he has a split personality. One's very honest and the other is a scammer ;D. I don't think a "good" escrow agent would disappear without warning whilst holding a lot of peoples' money though. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 20, 2014, 05:37:37 PM most wired thing is admin,mods or any staff member no one know about him and have never try to contact him about this huge escrow money which he have in his control Are you sure? Is he holding any other escrows other than the raffle money? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 22, 2014, 05:04:20 PM surely he is busy playing with "girls" at his homeland malasya
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: dogie on February 23, 2014, 01:16:45 PM At this point, without any evidence about John's ID, it is very likely he was just a fictional character. His reputation solely came from his administrator/global moderator status, not from his established identity. So people trusted countless amount of funds to a person which could be just one more sock puppet among others. Keep in mind that Michael (a.k.a. Theymos) provided support to John as much he provided support to Tradefortress. Nope, he is real. He's also a mermaid in his spare time.Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on February 24, 2014, 08:31:20 AM most wired thing is admin,mods or any staff member no one know about him and have never try to contact him about this huge escrow money which he have in his control Are you sure? Is he holding any other escrows other than the raffle money? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: b!z on February 24, 2014, 09:23:04 AM I wonder what he is doing that could be taking so long.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 24, 2014, 11:27:49 AM I wonder what he is doing that could be taking so long. I think that's what everyone is wondering. It has been mentioned he was travelling and was doing exams or something, but that's no excuse. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 24, 2014, 01:18:09 PM Ah wait someone said he had tried earlier in thread. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 24, 2014, 01:26:10 PM most wired thing is admin,mods or any staff member no one know about him and have never try to contact him about this huge escrow money which he have in his control Are you sure? Is he holding any other escrows other than the raffle money? How much is that? theymos won't email him on everyones behalf ? I don't know if he has or not or whether anybody has personally asked him to, but I'm sure he's seen the requests or could've taken the initiative to try contact him. It seems the only way of getting some answers. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: vendetahome on February 24, 2014, 04:08:37 PM most wired thing is admin,mods or any staff member no one know about him and have never try to contact him about this huge escrow money which he have in his control Are you sure? Is he holding any other escrows other than the raffle money? How much is that? [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 When I read the last two pages it seems not everyone was fully refunded, but I might be wrong Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on February 25, 2014, 02:05:24 PM Judging from his pictures, he's like 13 or something? Did you really all give your money to a 13 year old?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on February 25, 2014, 02:36:24 PM Judging from his pictures, he's like 13 or something? Did you really all give your money to a 13 year old? but I sure he is not 13 he is very old person as I have some idea about him :DTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on February 25, 2014, 02:40:42 PM Judging from his pictures, he's like 13 or something? Did you really all give your money to a 13 year old? but I sure he is not 13 he is very old person as I have some idea about him :DHe's in college, at least from what he said. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on February 25, 2014, 02:43:03 PM Judging from his pictures, he's like 13 or something? Did you really all give your money to a 13 year old? but I sure he is not 13 he is very old person as I have some idea about him :DHe's in college, at least from what he said. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Liam W on February 25, 2014, 08:02:56 PM Judging from his pictures, he's like 13 or something? Did you really all give your money to a 13 year old? but I sure he is not 13 he is very old person as I have some idea about him :DHe's in college, at least from what he said. US College, so University, so 18+? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 25, 2014, 10:25:36 PM 1/4 serious here.. maybe john is deprived ? Deprived has also been MIA for 2-3 months..
1/6 serious here.. maybe john is a few hero members who are MIA for last 2-3 months.. ? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 28, 2014, 06:31:29 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on February 28, 2014, 06:33:07 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? No one know about this you have to wait or if you can search him do this may be Google helps you in this adv-enter ;) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 28, 2014, 06:41:03 PM There are so many lol's on this forum there aren't enough hours in a day to keep up. I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've posted "Where's Waldo" on this forum. lol
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on February 28, 2014, 06:48:56 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? How much does he owe you and is it from the raffle? There are so many lol's on this forum there aren't enough hours in a day to keep up. I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've posted "Where's Waldo" on this forum. lol There are many lols to be had, but what's funny about this situation? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 28, 2014, 07:20:35 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? How much does he owe you and is it from the raffle? There are so many lol's on this forum there aren't enough hours in a day to keep up. I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've posted "Where's Waldo" on this forum. lol There are many lols to be had, but what's funny about this situation? I think it's hilarious when someone gives a total stranger the keys to their car. I also think it's funny that all the high level greatly respected members of this forum eventually end up MIA. BTW: have you heard from TradeFortress lately. rofl Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on February 28, 2014, 07:27:45 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? How much does he owe you and is it from the raffle? There are so many lol's on this forum there aren't enough hours in a day to keep up. I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've posted "Where's Waldo" on this forum. lol There are many lols to be had, but what's funny about this situation? I think it's hilarious when someone gives a total stranger the keys to their car. I also think it's funny that all the high level greatly respected members of this forum eventually end up MIA. BTW: have you heard from TradeFortress lately. rofl Lol, well I guess you could say in a really long scam there can only be One at the top to control them all (Inserts Highlander Music) Although with John hes escrowed higher so hes probably pretty pwned ... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 28, 2014, 07:31:47 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? How much does he owe you and is it from the raffle? There are so many lol's on this forum there aren't enough hours in a day to keep up. I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've posted "Where's Waldo" on this forum. lol There are many lols to be had, but what's funny about this situation? I think it's hilarious when someone gives a total stranger the keys to their car. I also think it's funny that all the high level greatly respected members of this forum eventually end up MIA. BTW: have you heard from TradeFortress lately. rofl Lol, well I guess you could say in a really long scam there can only be One at the top to control them all (Inserts Highlander Music) Although with John hes escrowed higher so hes probably pretty pwned ... I don't even think he's a scammer. I love how they all just say to themselves one day, "you know what, fuck that forum, I'm never goin back". LOL Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 28, 2014, 07:37:15 PM I dunno but sometimes i think that this forum will be known as the "scam forum" later if the bitcoin success, instead of being something good for bitcoin this forum will be known as the hause of scammers.
its getting its reputation so damn good. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on February 28, 2014, 07:37:49 PM March tomorrow and still no sign of John. Kinda glad I never won anything now in the raffle, such an anti-climax
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on February 28, 2014, 07:52:38 PM So, when will you gonna pay me my btc? John? I think it's hilarious when someone gives a total stranger the keys to their car. I also think it's funny that all the high level greatly respected members of this forum eventually end up MIA. BTW: have you heard from TradeFortress lately. rofl Lol, well I guess you could say in a really long scam there can only be One at the top to control them all (Inserts Highlander Music) Although with John hes escrowed higher so hes probably pretty pwned ... I don't even think he's a scammer. I love how they all just say to themselves one day, "you know what, fuck that forum, I'm never goin back". LOL True I don't think John is a scammer either just a normal person who doesn't want to return to the forum and didn't activate a deadman switch second escrow, and can't be bothered with just 100 BTC I dunno but sometimes i think that this forum will be known as the "scam forum" later if the bitcoin success, instead of being something good for bitcoin this forum will be known as the hause of scammers. its getting its reputation so damn good. Well I do see questionable spending here now and then, and mysterious payment and appearances before long disappearances that could easily be turned into conspiracy theories but I'm not going to go into that ;) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on February 28, 2014, 08:38:38 PM As it says in bitcointalk.com, how can be possible that the admins dont even have a telephone or id of john k while he was acting as an admin and holding outstanding scrows..,then we have trade fortress, mathew n wright, john k.
i have no words.. this was take like if this was an online game forum or something like that. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 28, 2014, 08:48:16 PM As it says in bitcointalk.com, how can be possible that the admins dont even have a telephone or id of john k while he was acting as an admin and holding outstanding scrows..,then we have trade fortress, mathew n wright, john k. i have no words.. this was take like if this was an online game forum or something like that. This is an online game. You've heard of Whack-A-Mole, right? This game is called Whack-A-Fool and we play it with Bitcoins. If you win you get a miniature stuffed Bruce Wagner doll waving his middle finger and a free fish taco at Meze Grill. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 28, 2014, 09:32:59 PM Isnt it strange how theymos emails john about giving forum money back.. john rushes back..
now it isnt theymos or sorry the forums money and john is nowhere to be seen. john knows no one can do shit. theymos doesn't care, not his money. all you theymos-ass-lickers can go back to licking his ass... he's the biggest scammer here.. like why am i the only one concerned about theymos's actions over the past 2+ years ?? Are you all that retarded ? Like seriously no offence.. its time for you to all wake up and relies whats going on. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 28, 2014, 09:34:46 PM like sssssssssssssserrrrrrrrrrriooously
think for a moment... why did john come running back after a month when theymos wants his money back? and now you suckers want it back ? surprise surprise..... just think about it... i'm sure some theymos-ass-lickers will post some bullshit.. but whatever i'm not down any money.. im not dumb enough to give any of his self appointed lackies shit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112402.0; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.msg1062355 lol defend the second one ass lickers.. come on tell us why its cool he basically says 'ya ya the money zhou gives me wont be enough to pay anyone back, so like.. its umm err cool d00ds.. no one will miss it' i dare say the money should of been siezed by liquidators, never to late... but ya.. i await the mods to defend that one... gonna be purrrre gold :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on February 28, 2014, 11:13:27 PM like sssssssssssssserrrrrrrrrrriooously Justin you might be onto something...think for a moment... why did john come running back after a month when theymos wants his money back? and now you suckers want it back ? surprise surprise..... just think about it... i'm sure some theymos-ass-lickers will post some bullshit.. but whatever i'm not down any money.. im not dumb enough to give any of his self appointed lackies shit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112402.0; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94475.msg1062355 lol defend the second one ass lickers.. come on tell us why its cool he basically says 'ya ya the money zhou gives me wont be enough to pay anyone back, so like.. its umm err cool d00ds.. no one will miss it' i dare say the money should of been siezed by liquidators, never to late... but ya.. i await the mods to defend that one... gonna be purrrre gold :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on February 28, 2014, 11:37:00 PM I'm sure its possible to actually build a case of all the times Theymos was incorrect on something but not sure what his track record is overall
Bitcoinfoundation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118265.0 This thread Special Privileges (This thread Theymos got his money back others wait it out) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412061.msg4463576#msg4463576 Trust System applied to TF and inputs.io guess Ripple (Although personally I still don't like Ripple lol) Summary of this one: Get on the default trust list, start a web wallet... Huh PROFIT! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251473.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=210634.180 Payment Transparacy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234009.msg2471223#msg2471223 Special Forum (Ok think this one was a joke :P) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395833.msg4271975#msg4271975 Large Amounts of Spending https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455867.msg5069851#msg5069851 BFL For the Longest Time https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323033.0 Pirate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122466.0 Matt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35072.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273066.msg2929664#msg2929664 GLBSE Good old MP got to trust Mircea to keep an archive of all sorts of Shenanigans http://trilema.com/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/ Google search of trilema articles https://www.google.ca/#q=trilema+theymos What I'm saying is that its quite easy to build a case here. Mistakes do certainly accumulate over time I'm sure some hero members around here can go back even further I'm not going conspiracy here but just pointed out historical notes and facts that did occur and happen Lot of old history around ^^ I'm sure their is a lot of positive choices too but that's for other people to play around with My daily mischief is done for today ha-ha Now for the conspiracy part Of course if this whole board is run by a scamming group of members who are in for the long haul then were all boned ;) The quicker things are called out the faster this whole game falls apart lol All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Until we get to the new forum and then erase the evidence slowly over time :P Good old bridge burning Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 28, 2014, 11:47:23 PM its about time this all came out.
we need more longer term members to speak up. I don't think its conspiracy or any well laid out plans... just opportunistic each time when it comes to money. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on February 28, 2014, 11:53:36 PM its about time this all came out. we need more longer term members to speak up. I don't think its conspiracy or any well laid out plans... just opportunistic each time when it comes to money. He-he be careful burning the harbor though or you might end up on some ignore list :P Aka back it up In other news they Finally Sued Gox http://www.scribd.com/doc/209741761/Greene-v-MtGox-Inc-Mt-Gox-Class-Action Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on February 28, 2014, 11:55:43 PM thought about that to.
funnily enough, as i said, i've lost nothing... just over all this scamming. some of you know what i used to do in 2012 to assist people who got scammed, some of you dont :] Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on March 01, 2014, 06:20:09 AM Yeah, theymos is acting like he dont give a shit about his subordinate, he is like "mmm he dont have my money now so i dont care, he never worked for me"
I need the btc john k is owing me to pay some bills, if you were a good boss you would pay me. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on March 04, 2014, 09:50:11 AM Any word?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on March 04, 2014, 10:09:37 AM Any word? No words from admin and John K one is out of forum and other don't want to talk about this Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on March 04, 2014, 11:27:56 AM It doesn't make sense for him to run away with the raffle money, he could've ran away with a LOT more in the past. I think something bad may have happened to him :( Can you give his facebook id post here may be some one try to contact his friends We know his facebook and his friends list is public. Somebody should message some of his Facebook friends and let them know we havent heard from him in a while and are worried. Perhaps something has happened to John and maybe his Facebook friends know. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 04, 2014, 01:23:53 PM It doesn't make sense for him to run away with the raffle money, he could've ran away with a LOT more in the past. I think something bad may have happened to him :( Can you give his facebook id post here may be some one try to contact his friends We know his facebook and his friends list is public. Somebody should message some of his Facebook friends and let them know we havent heard from him in a while and are worried. Perhaps something has happened to John and maybe his Facebook friends know. It was posted earlier in the thread: https://www.facebook.com/TheJohnKoh I would contact his friends but I no longer have a Facebook. If somebody does make contact please be nice and don't go 'demanding the money', just ask how John is and mention people haven't heard from him in a long time. I don't care what other people say if it doesn't make sense its probably not true, even the worst scammer in the world would have enough brains to know that given the chance you should run away with 10,000BTC and not ~100BTC. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 04, 2014, 01:36:17 PM It was posted earlier in the thread: https://www.facebook.com/TheJohnKoh OK, let's try again: Did anyone verified the above profile matches the real John's government ID? I mean, did anyone got a copy of John's government ID and compared with above profile? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 04, 2014, 02:14:50 PM I'm guessing not. But just as a comparison, did anyone here verify the CEO of PayPal's government ID before they opened a PayPal account? That is not necessary because Paypal is a registered legal entity. Anyone can verify that before open a Paypal account. Anyway, I am certain that Paypal's CEO had to provide his ID at the time he founded his company. Meanwhile, you think John K is a real person because you were spoon fed to believe this. I have no reason to believe it's fake, mainly because John was dealing with tens of thousands of BTC at a time just months ago. It doesn't make sense to take the small payout. How do you know that? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 04, 2014, 05:20:11 PM Should a scam accusation thread be opened ???
Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting. Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 04, 2014, 06:13:31 PM Should a scam accusation thread be opened ??? In past 3 months just 2 posts and no response is almost too much for coinroll winners to do this but still some wait and calm is better and if some one want to open scam accusation its his right Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting. Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 04, 2014, 08:04:34 PM Should a scam accusation thread be opened ??? In past 3 months just 2 posts and no response is almost too much for coinroll winners to do this but still some wait and calm is better and if some one want to open scam accusation its his right Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting. Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though Someone had to say it, was expecting a few more knives for that one but it is getting long waiting on an escrow, if it was anyone else but John we would have opened a thread a long time ago, since I don't have any coins on it if someone else wants to make it then that should be their own prerogative to do so Aka don't flame them for dissing John ^^ Preferably someone in the coinroll raffle that won Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Polycoin on March 04, 2014, 08:55:34 PM This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.
I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam. Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes. Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Liam W on March 04, 2014, 09:04:59 PM This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it. I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam. Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes. Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums. Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either... Liam Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Polycoin on March 04, 2014, 09:16:14 PM This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it. I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam. Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes. Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums. Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either... Liam Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on end, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns. It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Liam W on March 04, 2014, 09:17:31 PM This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it. I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam. Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes. Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums. Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either... Liam Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on them, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns. It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that. I was intending to only defend theymos, not John. He really should've come back. It really does look like he's a scammer, at least to me. I hope it's not the case. Liam Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 04, 2014, 09:45:54 PM This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it. I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam. Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes. Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums. Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either... Liam Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on end, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns. It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that. 1000 of who's Bitcoins? He gave the forum's back then disappeared again, unless he has others. No idea why he'd give them back but keep the hundred from the raffle, but whatever's going on clearly this isn't acceptable or respectable behaviour. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 04, 2014, 10:20:54 PM Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions
Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on March 05, 2014, 01:02:49 AM Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well theymos did get the forum's coins back from him Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 05, 2014, 02:37:48 AM Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well theymos did get the forum's coins back from him That is the point tysat, if Theymos receives preferential treatment instead of fair treatment like everyone else then there is an issue. Since John is 1* months late on the coinroll raffle and has not returned since January to give out the coins he owes the raffle winners it becomes a plausible observation. We cannot blame Theymos for Johns actions cannot state that enough after returning the coins to the forum but it still does cast a shadow on the fairness of it all. Since John only has that one escrow their can be a slight suspicion that Theymos received preferential treatment, since John returned the forums coins almost immediately after Theymos sent out his PGP signed message which is a good thing and a sign of trust its also why no one was complaining for this long. The argument is that even though John did return the forums coins he is taking far too long on the other coins he promised to release in his last message and the winners from the raffle have a right to there prizes as John was just escrowing them until the hash was released. Since we are entering into March and the confirmed list has been available for some time patience should be running a little thin and most users would have launched a scam accusation on any other user if this was not John we were discussing. I guess I should say By Lord Did we send John a PM! :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191176.msg4463662#msg4463662 * I say 1 month not 3 because although the hashlist has been confirmed since January the PM should have been sent by scrat around a month ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=75366;sa=showPosts Also worth noting John did say he would dig through the thread but never did so and the coins have not been moved https://blockchain.info/address/1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c Whoever tipped it with l33t just now I saw that ^^ Original Contract https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.msg2349292#msg2349292 Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on March 05, 2014, 03:56:59 PM at least john k already receive his deserved trust reputation until he re appears, what a shame
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: deepceleron on March 05, 2014, 11:13:19 PM For the love of god, why can't he please go back to his old nick and steal someone's Bitcoins?? I've been waiting for "You got donged!" to be a meme for so long! ..took a year https://i.imgur.com/Yt9AWCO.jpg You got donged! (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Donged&defid=3256109) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Swordsoffreedom on March 05, 2014, 11:15:16 PM For the love of god, why can't he please go back to his old nick and steal someone's Bitcoins?? I've been waiting for "You got donged!" to be a meme for so long! ..took a year https://i.imgur.com/Yt9AWCO.jpg You got donged! (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Donged&defid=3256109) That's adorable ^_^ Sorry it just made me smile a bit Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kouye on March 05, 2014, 11:24:48 PM Quote from: theymos Held BTC for the forum. Quote from: theymos Active and very trustworthy global moderator of this forum. Again, "Trust" is just a great tool for crooks, and I've been suggesting much better ways to handle it, so this can't be considered as trolling. theymos did give 2 thumbs up to JK, and they are still there. Anyone joining today might fall for it, because of this completely broken trust system. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on March 08, 2014, 09:41:44 AM Getting tired of waiting John... Gonna start a scam accusation soon. :-\
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on March 08, 2014, 07:48:10 PM Almost two months and nothing..
Surely you could spare 5 minutes to login within that time, unless something really bad has happened? Doesn't look good Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on March 08, 2014, 07:52:09 PM Getting tired of waiting John... Gonna start a scam accusation soon. :-\ If you have some coins in his account then you can surely start scam accusation because 2 months are too much Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: kooke on March 08, 2014, 08:59:32 PM Maybe he's in jail :-\
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on March 09, 2014, 02:30:51 AM So even the most trustworthy person on the forum might have scammed...bad message to the people out there.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on March 09, 2014, 07:05:24 AM Maybe he lost the key to the coins.. anyway if that happened . He will gain more if he pays from his pocket than if he dissapears
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 09, 2014, 07:49:08 AM So any word from John the Dong yet?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 09, 2014, 08:50:52 AM So any word from John the Dong yet? Nope been afk since he made this post a while back Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: peter0021 on March 09, 2014, 11:04:01 AM They said always use an escrow and you will be fine. But what if the escrow is the scammer. ::)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 09, 2014, 11:15:23 AM They said always use an escrow and you will be fine. But what if the escrow is the scammer. ::) I don't think escrow is ever claimed as foolproof, but I guarantee there would've been far more money scammed had people not used one. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on March 09, 2014, 05:40:45 PM They said always use an escrow and you will be fine. But what if the escrow is the scammer. ::) I don't think escrow is ever claimed as foolproof, but I guarantee there would've been far more money scammed had people not used one. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 10, 2014, 04:53:26 AM Quote from: theymos Held BTC for the forum. Quote from: theymos Active and very trustworthy global moderator of this forum. Again, "Trust" is just a great tool for crooks, and I've been suggesting much better ways to handle it, so this can't be considered as trolling. theymos did give 2 thumbs up to JK, and they are still there. Anyone joining today might fall for it, because of this completely broken trust system. Having Trust in people you can't kick in the junk if they betray your trust is a flawed system. The trust system is just a feedback system, it isn't an absolute deciding factor in who you are safe dealing with. If you listened to the hundreds of people who gave John positive feedback for his prior work with them, its not the system's fault, and its not the people who gave him feedback's fault. Its his fault for whatever it is he is doing. People try to assign blame whenever something bad happens, but the only person to blame in this situation is John K. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 10, 2014, 05:35:01 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Where he is offering escrow service? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on March 10, 2014, 05:43:35 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Where he is offering escrow service? First line of his sig Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 10, 2014, 05:43:45 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Where he is offering escrow service? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2014, 05:56:32 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Where he is offering escrow service? Not as long as John. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 10, 2014, 06:00:58 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Nope I do not, nor would I advise escrowing 100 BTC through my services. The only real trust is mathmatical logic, it has little to do with past performance. If I stand to make 1 BTC in the next month by operating legitimately, chances are I wont steal 1 BTC from someone as I'd be hurting myself financially in the long run. One's trust has a value, if you can calculate what someone's trust is worth, you can come up with how much you can reasonably safely risk with them. I'm not trying to blame people for using John K. he was indeed the most trusted escrow agent around, handling far more BTC in a month than most people will ever see in a lifetime, my point was that trusting anyone that you can't hold personally responsible for their errors is a flawed system, myself included. Feedback here should be held in the same esteem as someone's Ebay ratings. Personally, I don't think he would run off with 100 BTC, because he could have easily run off with far more. However he may have also been holding other people's coins which could change his decision to run. That or he legitimately could be incredibly busy, I don't know. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2014, 06:05:31 PM Excellent, just for future reference, is your junk available for kicking? do you publish your gov id and address? I noticed you are offering escrow services. Thanks Nope I do not, nor would I advise escrowing 100 BTC through my services. The only real trust is mathmatical logic, it has little to do with past performance. If I stand to make 1 BTC in the next month by operating legitimately, chances are I wont steal 1 BTC from someone as I'd be hurting myself financially in the long run. One's trust has a value, if you can calculate what someone's trust is worth, you can come up with how much you can reasonably safely risk with them. I'm not trying to blame people for using John K. he was indeed the most trusted escrow agent around, handling far more BTC in a month than most people will ever see in a lifetime, my point was that trusting anyone that you can't hold personally responsible for their errors is a flawed system, myself included. Feedback here should be held in the same esteem as someone's Ebay ratings. Personally, I don't think he would run off with 100 BTC, because he could have easily run off with far more. However he may have also been holding other people's coins which could change his decision to run. That or he legitimately could be incredibly busy, I don't know. I think you would be a good escrow replacement for John. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed (you like altcoins too much ;D) but you're honest. You know John could be in trouble too. He may come back with a great story to tell. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: RoxxR on March 10, 2014, 06:21:15 PM Why aren't we using things like Counterparty, which allows zero-trust escrow (as far as I can tell) and has even hired 2 core devs (Peter Todd and I forgot the second name) to conduct an in-depth security review of its code and protocol?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 10, 2014, 06:31:54 PM OK, thank you for the responses. I have signatures disabled, so I was not aware that he was offering escrow service. This explain why SaltySpitoon and Theymos did not allow me to use the important announcements section to offer escrow service. Now I am sure that Theymos conspired with John K to establish a false sense of trust among the forum users. Once John K came out of scene, SaltySpitoon came in. Both are now conspiring together to deter the competition. Every piece of the puzzle is starting to fit together. Anyone reading SaltySpitoon post history will discover that he is always defending Theymos actions. It is also interesting to note that SaltySpitoon was promoted from staff directly to global moderator without any merit. This indicate that Theymos put him in a important position to instigate (again) a false sense of trust among the forum users. Keep in mind that John K was also a global moderator and that was essential to people trust him. So at this point it is obvious that SaltySpitoon has replaced John K.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 10, 2014, 06:37:23 PM Nope I do not, nor would I advise escrowing 100 BTC through my services. The only real trust is mathmatical logic, it has little to do with past performance. I advise anyone looking for an escrow service to avoid agents which are not willing to identify themselves. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 10, 2014, 06:46:12 PM OK, thank you for the responses. I have signatures disabled, so I was not aware that he was offering escrow service. This explain why SaltySpitoon and Theymos did not allow me to use the important announcements section to offer escrow service. Now I am sure that Theymos conspired with John K to establish a false sense of trust among the forum users. Once John K came out of scene, SaltySpitoon came in. Both are now conspiring together to deter the competition. Every piece of the puzzle is starting to fit together. Anyone reading SaltySpitoon post history will discover that he is always defending Theymos actions. It is also interesting to note that SaltySpitoon was promoted from staff directly to global moderator without any merit. This indicate that Theymos put him in a important position to instigate (again) a false sense of trust among the forum users. Keep in mind that John K was also a global moderator and that was essential to people trust him. So at this point it is obvious that SaltySpitoon has replaced John K. No, you weren't allowed to use it for the reason that Theymos said, Important announcements are available to Staff/VIP/Donators to post in, but it is for things that are generally significant to Bitcoin as a whole, IE MTGox shutting down, or QT updates and the likes, its not for anyone to advertise their own businesses. I have not replaced John K, nor do I wish to. I wont accept large escrow amounts that I couldn't pay off if something happened to the coins, as I dont want to risk my reputation on any sort of error that I could make. I defend Theymos because I like the guy and trust his judgements, however if you haven't noticed I have been critical in his new forum decisions. One of the reasons that I like Theymos, is he doesn't care if people question him (including staff) he like myself is open to any argument, and doesn't hold grudges when people question him or go against whatever plans he has. I'm an incredibly neutral person on most things, which is why I got the job as the Alt Coin moderator in the first place about a year and a half ago (November 2012), because I could fairly deal with the squabbling between coins that I may have had some sort of bias towards. I was promoted to Global Mod a bit after a year of working in the busiest section on BTCTalk, maintaining a generally positive history of handling situations responsibly, and fixing my mistakes responsibly. John K was a global moderator far before myself, and was promoted to Administrator before I became a global mod. I don't do anywhere near the volume of escrow deals as John K, and the main reason people use my service is because I tend to be available for a large part of the day, and actively communicate with the people I'm working with to make sure everything is transparent for all parties. I gained what starting reputation I had by trading metals and buying/selling various other things on the forum. I started doing escrow for my friends before I became a moderator, and I am a large advocate of the escrow system (check most of my sales threads or threads where I buy things, I ask to use the service of another escrow agent) and I'm not dilusional by the sheer fact that my reputation has a calulated value that people shouldn't feel comfortable having me hold as well, and it is well below 100 BTC. Nope I do not, nor would I advise escrowing 100 BTC through my services. The only real trust is mathmatical logic, it has little to do with past performance. I advise anyone looking for an escrow service to avoid agents which are not willing to identify themselves. Agreed. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on March 10, 2014, 06:53:48 PM Bla bla bla Yawn... :-\ You lost any moral ground to argue with me. I had some respect for you before, but now I am sure you are in bed with Theymos. Your constant excuses and justifications is why people like Theymos is not held accountable for their actions. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 10, 2014, 06:58:50 PM Bla bla bla Yawn... :-\ You lost any moral ground to argue with me. I had some respect for you before, but now I am sure you are in bed with Theymos. Your constant excuses and justifications is why people like Theymos is not held accountable for their actions. See, I don't have to defend myself, because I don't especially care what you think, but when someone asks you a question about your decision making, and you can't answer it, thats when you know you need to change your own decision making process. I answered all of your points, so I am affirmed in my process. :) ie, I should have had to earn your respect in some way or another. Next time, don't automatically give me any, I haven't done the same for you. Thank you. *edit* also, if you would like to continue to discuss, I'd be happy to. But I feel we are derailing this thread, so we can start a new thread, or communicate via pm. Although, it won't be a very good discussion if either you or I don't read each other's responses. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on March 13, 2014, 01:24:43 PM I guess he's now dead or running?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on March 14, 2014, 12:03:08 PM I guess he's now dead or running? wake up bro, you got scammed by a malaysian thief with no honor, no integrity and no credibilityI'll be back to clear everything else once I get back to the States again - I'm catching another intercontinental flight in roughly 12 hours................ Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on March 14, 2014, 03:49:38 PM he's alive and well.
no doubt about it. theymos has his personal details..i am sure.. or does theymos get totally anonymous people to hold the forums money ??? He came running back when theymos wanted the money back.............. I guess he's now dead or running? wake up bro, you got scammed by a malaysian thief with no honor, no integrity and no credibilityI'll be back to clear everything else once I get back to the States again - I'm catching another intercontinental flight in roughly 12 hours................ Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 14, 2014, 03:52:13 PM he's alive and well. but why is he not responding its almost more then 2 months even no post no message no doubt about it. theymos has his personal details..i am sure.. or does theymos get totally anonymous people to hold the forums money ??? He came running back when theymos wanted the money back.............. I guess he's now dead or running? wake up bro, you got scammed by a malaysian thief with no honor, no integrity and no credibilityI'll be back to clear everything else once I get back to the States again - I'm catching another intercontinental flight in roughly 12 hours................ Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on March 14, 2014, 03:54:48 PM i guess they don't have the internet in usa..... =)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on March 14, 2014, 04:08:01 PM I wouldn't get your hopes up, I doubt theymos knows much more about John's details than anyone else. I've had the same opportunities as John, and theymos has never once asked me for any personal details, and I've never offered them, and probably never will.
It does suck that it seems that John doesn't have any intention of following through with this escrow. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Justin00 on March 14, 2014, 04:20:03 PM lol seriously ? he would just ask total strangers (he trusts) to hold the forum money ?
guess that explains how/why he was talked into building a $100000000000000000000 website. I wouldn't get your hopes up, I doubt theymos knows much more about John's details than anyone else. I've had the same opportunities as John, and theymos has never once asked me for any personal details, and I've never offered them, and probably never will. It does suck that it seems that John doesn't have any intention of following through with this escrow. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on March 14, 2014, 04:53:20 PM Being anonymous (not that John was) doesn't automatically make someone untrustworthy, though it can be a warning sign. Valuing your privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. Same reason I refuse entry/searches from the cops, I'm not doing anything wrong but I still value my rights and privacy.
Besides, theymos was right, John returned the forum's money. I don't know what the fucks going on with the escrow though, wouldn't care to speculate either, waste of time. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheFootMan on March 14, 2014, 05:09:53 PM Being anonymous (not that John was) doesn't automatically make someone untrustworthy, though it can be a warning sign. Valuing your privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. Same reason I refuse entry/searches from the cops, I'm not doing anything wrong but I still value my rights and privacy. Besides, theymos was right, John returned the forum's money. I don't know what the fucks going on with the escrow though, wouldn't care to speculate either, waste of time. Knowing someones full name and identity is never proof that said entity or person will not scam or cheat you. The only difference between being anonymous and being non-anonymous is that if the non-anonymous person wrongs you, you can go after him, you can never be sure he won't cheat you in the first place. As for refusing entry/searched from the cops, I can only imagine that making things worse. I would think most cops would react in a hostile way when you show resistance, even if it is your right to do so, it's a big chance that force will be exercised on you. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 14, 2014, 06:32:06 PM Being anonymous (not that John was) doesn't automatically make someone untrustworthy, though it can be a warning sign. Valuing your privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. Same reason I refuse entry/searches from the cops, I'm not doing anything wrong but I still value my rights and privacy. Besides, theymos was right, John returned the forum's money. I don't know what the fucks going on with the escrow though, wouldn't care to speculate either, waste of time. As for refusing entry/searched from the cops, I can only imagine that making things worse. I would think most cops would react in a hostile way when you show resistance, even if it is your right to do so, it's a big chance that force will be exercised on you. If you're not doing anything wrong or there's no good reason for a search then they have no right or reason to become hostile. You can't just let the police abuse you and their powers just because they might become hostile when they've no reason to. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on March 14, 2014, 08:48:51 PM he's alive and well. It is certainly odd that only 2 days after theymos sends out an "official" message requesting the return of the funds John K shows up after a 2 month hiatus and then promptly vanishes again. So why not get theymos to call him again? Seemed to work last time...no doubt about it. theymos has his personal details..i am sure.. or does theymos get totally anonymous people to hold the forums money ??? He came running back when theymos wanted the money back.............. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheFootMan on March 14, 2014, 09:10:59 PM Being anonymous (not that John was) doesn't automatically make someone untrustworthy, though it can be a warning sign. Valuing your privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. Same reason I refuse entry/searches from the cops, I'm not doing anything wrong but I still value my rights and privacy. Besides, theymos was right, John returned the forum's money. I don't know what the fucks going on with the escrow though, wouldn't care to speculate either, waste of time. As for refusing entry/searched from the cops, I can only imagine that making things worse. I would think most cops would react in a hostile way when you show resistance, even if it is your right to do so, it's a big chance that force will be exercised on you. If you're not doing anything wrong or there's no good reason for a search then they have no right or reason to become hostile. You can't just let the police abuse you and their powers just because they might become hostile when they've no reason to. This is the story of a white male in San Fransisco and how he was put in jail after calling for help regarding a bicycle accident: http://sfist.com/2014/02/18/young_tech_worker_who_called_911_on.php According to several other reports, the harrasment and treatment of black americans are even worse, and in many other countries it's not much better. Logic and reason has no value against a cop on a power trip. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on March 14, 2014, 09:43:13 PM Knowing someones full name and identity is never proof that said entity or person will not scam or cheat you. The only difference between being anonymous and being non-anonymous is that if the non-anonymous person wrongs you, you can go after him, you can never be sure he won't cheat you in the first place. Indeed, most of the biggest scammers on this forum had their identities well known. It's the person that counts, a name is just a name. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Unluckyduck on March 15, 2014, 07:33:31 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 15, 2014, 01:14:08 PM Being anonymous (not that John was) doesn't automatically make someone untrustworthy, though it can be a warning sign. Valuing your privacy doesn't mean you're a criminal. Same reason I refuse entry/searches from the cops, I'm not doing anything wrong but I still value my rights and privacy. Besides, theymos was right, John returned the forum's money. I don't know what the fucks going on with the escrow though, wouldn't care to speculate either, waste of time. As for refusing entry/searched from the cops, I can only imagine that making things worse. I would think most cops would react in a hostile way when you show resistance, even if it is your right to do so, it's a big chance that force will be exercised on you. If you're not doing anything wrong or there's no good reason for a search then they have no right or reason to become hostile. You can't just let the police abuse you and their powers just because they might become hostile when they've no reason to. This is the story of a white male in San Fransisco and how he was put in jail after calling for help regarding a bicycle accident: http://sfist.com/2014/02/18/young_tech_worker_who_called_911_on.php According to several other reports, the harrasment and treatment of black americans are even worse, and in many other countries it's not much better. Logic and reason has no value against a cop on a power trip. So you let cops do whatever they want to you just so you don't cause a fuss? You have to stand up for your rights less petty tyrants will always walk all over them. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: zeeshanblc on March 16, 2014, 12:43:24 AM Who's escrow to trust now?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: gweedo on March 16, 2014, 01:11:29 AM Who's escrow to trust now? You can trust me for escrows :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: redhack on March 16, 2014, 09:30:48 PM I hope you are okay John.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Sk1llS on March 19, 2014, 09:49:33 PM So where is this motherfucker?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 19, 2014, 09:53:34 PM So where is this motherfucker? oh this is not good enough you must check your language Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on March 19, 2014, 10:34:26 PM I checked his language and it seems to check out ok.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 19, 2014, 10:38:23 PM I checked his language and it seems to check out ok. For you OK but still need to use better words many peoples have problems here but words like these not acceptable still need patience Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: johnmatrix on March 20, 2014, 02:09:20 AM maybe john k was inside the dissapeared malasyan airlines airplane
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 21, 2014, 11:12:45 AM maybe john k was inside the dissapeared malasyan airlines airplane That's pretty funny. That airline situation is really sad though, extremely suspect. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on March 21, 2014, 11:33:20 AM maybe john k was inside the dissapeared malasyan airlines airplane That's pretty funny. That airline situation is really sad though, extremely suspect. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 27, 2014, 12:50:06 PM Isn't it time to remove John from the trusted escrow list now? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on March 27, 2014, 01:31:37 PM Long since time.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on March 27, 2014, 02:05:39 PM is john dead or running yet?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on March 27, 2014, 02:08:08 PM Isn't it time to remove John from the trusted escrow list now? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0 If you read the list you'll notice that it says "Gone AWOL, still holding members money." to the right. It's good to have that note up there. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: greyhawk on March 27, 2014, 02:14:58 PM Isn't it time to remove John from the trusted escrow list now? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0 If you read the list you'll notice that it says "Gone AWOL, still holding members money." to the right. It's good to have that note up there. It should probably be MIA instead of "Gone AWOL". Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on March 27, 2014, 07:48:07 PM Missing for nearly 3 months? ::)
Must be something serious to be gone this long Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on March 27, 2014, 08:39:07 PM Missing for nearly 3 months? ::) Yes strange thing is admin is also not trying to contact him by email Must be something serious to be gone this long Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Salmon1989 on March 28, 2014, 08:25:52 AM Welcome back mate! John came back to make this thread, and then he has been MIA for 2.5 months lol. ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on March 28, 2014, 09:16:44 AM Welcome back mate! lol, slightly delayed response Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: st4nl3y on March 28, 2014, 02:39:12 PM aaaaaand he's gone! https://i.imgur.com/id39VIt.jpg ...with half a million of forums money
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 28, 2014, 02:40:53 PM aaaaaand he's gone! https://i.imgur.com/cVx7jJ3.gif ...with half a million of forums money Except he returned that, then disappeared again. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: st4nl3y on March 28, 2014, 02:48:20 PM Except he returned that, then disappeared again. Oh yea, he did indeed, sorry i was looking at the wrong address. still, doesn't change the fact he is missing with a lot of btc Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Shogen on March 28, 2014, 03:31:31 PM Except he returned that, then disappeared again. Oh yea, he did indeed, sorry i was looking at the wrong address. still, doesn't change the fact he is missing with a lot of btc Why did he return 1000btc to theymos instead of running away with it? ??? Why didn't he return all the other bitcoin he held in escrow? ??? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DannyHamilton on March 28, 2014, 03:42:26 PM Why did he return 1000btc to theymos instead of running away with it? ??? So that he would seem trustworthy. Or perhaps because he is/was trustworthy. Really, we are only guessing, since there is no good way to know for sure. Why didn't he return all the other bitcoin he held in escrow? ??? Because he died? Or because he is a scammer? Or because something in his life has interfered with his ability to do so? Really, we are only guessing, since there is no good way to know for sure. I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Shogen on March 28, 2014, 04:14:22 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DannyHamilton on March 28, 2014, 04:37:22 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 28, 2014, 05:12:12 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Both of those are the raffle money. I'm sure somebody mentioned another escrow somewhere. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on March 28, 2014, 05:45:55 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Both of those are the raffle money. I'm sure somebody mentioned another escrow somewhere. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 28, 2014, 06:02:34 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Both of those are the raffle money. I'm sure somebody mentioned another escrow somewhere. It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? yes he still is holding money for this group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 (check last few pages) There's this group buy apparently. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on March 28, 2014, 06:06:44 PM I've heard many people saying that "he is holding many other people's BTC in escrow", but I haven't heard anyone specifically say that he is holding their bitcoins. Is there a reliable source of information about which escrows he is still holding? According to these 2 threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.0), John K has been holding 100.02 btc in escrow (Address: 1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c). Both of those are the raffle money. I'm sure somebody mentioned another escrow somewhere. It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? yes he still is holding money for this group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 (check last few pages) There's this group buy apparently. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on March 29, 2014, 07:21:34 AM Didn't notice the group buy guess that is worth adding to the John K scam accusation thread so goes to post it up
Mind adding it to the OP unluckyduck While we are at it any other escrows worth noting https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516308.0 Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DobZombie on March 29, 2014, 09:13:58 AM Why did he return 1000btc to theymos instead of running away with it? ??? Why didn't he return all the other bitcoin he held in escrow? ??? Cuz theymos has enough BTC to hire a hitman. Everyone else is now poor enough to not be able to afford one.. Thats why Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on March 29, 2014, 09:20:37 PM Why did he return 1000btc to theymos instead of running away with it? ??? Why didn't he return all the other bitcoin he held in escrow? ??? Cuz theymos has enough BTC to hire a hitman. Everyone else is now poor enough to not be able to afford one.. Thats why Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Buziss on March 30, 2014, 08:58:45 AM its very nice to hear that you are alive and good and back again you unannounced absent good luck for you future work Your reply is 11 weeks late, and I am afraid John K will never read it lol. :D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on March 30, 2014, 09:51:05 AM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage.
Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: malevolent on March 30, 2014, 09:52:57 AM Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? He said he did: Good to know, thanks! The risk with John K is probably that he doesn't have an institution around him that can survive his passing. If he were to have a heart attack today and die (not wishing it on him!), is there a substantial chance that all the funds in his btc escrow account would remain there, possibly forever locked away? Does he have a contingency plan? Hey, I do have a dead-man's switch in place as all the addresses I use are cold wallets printed and stored physically in my safe. I regularly back my escrow list of transactions up to two off-site locations, and in the case of me and my family's incapacitation my family lawyer is authorized to release the funds accordingly with the list. However, I still make it a point to not keep too much of escrow funds at once - I try to move through escrows as fast as possible to not have too much risk that I cannot cover using my own BTC funds at once. That's why escrows that might take longer (say, 2-3 weeks +) is charged a higher fee here. I don't hold more than 5k BTC in escrow at the moment, barring long term storage like the forum's funds (that I started to hold part of since I was a moderator). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on March 30, 2014, 09:53:42 AM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage. Its all in hand of admin what he want to do with this now too much time and no reply from him is just going in this way he is not in this world Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on March 30, 2014, 10:31:42 AM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage. Its all in hand of admin what he want to do with this now too much time and no reply from him is just going in this way he is not in this world Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? If you have a problem with John in a moderator capacity, then go to admins. He was demoted a while back. If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: colocation on March 30, 2014, 12:26:51 PM If anyone got any funds hold by John I don't think that you should except them to come back.
He probably is in an island, drinking some cocktails with it right now :) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Buziss on March 30, 2014, 02:17:51 PM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage. If I was a winner, I would have expected to never see John K online again. ;D If anyone got any funds hold by John I don't think that you should except them to come back. He probably is in an island, drinking some cocktails with it right now :) Exactly. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: st4nl3y on March 30, 2014, 02:32:29 PM so much for a great john k. i can't say i am surprised.
i have never used his services as there are other btc escrow options that don't even require a "trusted member" to hold your money Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 30, 2014, 03:24:03 PM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage. Its all in hand of admin what he want to do with this now too much time and no reply from him is just going in this way he is not in this world Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? If you have a problem with John in a moderator capacity, then go to admins. He was demoted a while back. If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. Well I would hope the forum demotes mods that steal from people. That seems like the least you can do. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 30, 2014, 05:15:30 PM The price of BTC has basically halved since he was supposed to release the raffle escrow. If I was a winner I'd be extremely pissed at this stage. Its all in hand of admin what he want to do with this now too much time and no reply from him is just going in this way he is not in this world Did he ever set-up a dead man switch or something similar? If you have a problem with John in a moderator capacity, then go to admins. He was demoted a while back. If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. Well I would hope the forum demotes mods that steal from people. That seems like the least you can do. The least he could do would be to contact John asking wtf is actually going on. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 30, 2014, 08:00:10 PM Whole heartedly agree (as I winner in the raffle I would though!)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: malevolent on March 30, 2014, 09:40:11 PM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: silvestar on March 31, 2014, 07:31:07 AM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. So, theymos appointed John as the mod and asked John to hold 1000 BTC when theymos only know his email and his bitcointalk account username? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 31, 2014, 08:13:24 AM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. And has he emailed John again asking what's going on? He seemed to come back pretty quickly the last time he did. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on March 31, 2014, 08:19:56 AM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. And has he emailed John again asking what's going on? He seemed to come back pretty quickly the last time he did. Has anyone else? Seems like most are just waiting for someone else to do something. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: malevolent on March 31, 2014, 08:29:43 AM So, theymos appointed John as the mod and asked John to hold 1000 BTC when theymos only know his email and his bitcointalk account username? He already had a good reputation back then, and was considered trustworthy enough by theymos to be entrusted with 1000 BTC, which at last years exchange rates was worth ~20-30x less than now. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on March 31, 2014, 08:45:57 AM I don't have any special way of contacting him. I don't know anything about his current status. No Bitcoin BTCatsignal? :D How did you request he send the forums funds back before? Just PM or email? Email. And has he emailed John again asking what's going on? He seemed to come back pretty quickly the last time he did. Has anyone else? Seems like most are just waiting for someone else to do something. I don't know, but I think an email from Theymos holds a little more weight. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 01, 2014, 01:19:35 AM If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. No, it have EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM. He was in an important position provided by the administration and used exclusively this forum to provide his escrow services. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: tysat on April 01, 2014, 04:03:24 AM By now you should assume anyone in an important position on this forum is a scammer. There are plenty of good people too! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on April 01, 2014, 06:12:02 AM Yeah, there are good people too. Theymos, if you need someone else to hold those coins, ... ... :)
I think, more than anything, John K does not have the intention of just disappearing. Something has happened to him, and unfortunately we don't know what. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: TheFootMan on April 01, 2014, 07:26:48 AM Yeah, there are good people too. Theymos, if you need someone else to hold those coins, ... ... :) I think, more than anything, John K does not have the intention of just disappearing. Something has happened to him, and unfortunately we don't know what. I think the community is far too forgiving. If a facilitator for escrow trades fails to honor his deals in a timely manner, and there's no good explanation for it, this person should be labeled a scammer. If doing intercontinental flights, or doing activities that could put you out of commission, like hiking in the mountains for a couple of weeks, you make arrangements that will secure the integrity of your operations. John K. is what? A student that does a lot of air plane trips? And people do not know who he is in real life, and yet they trust him with big amounts for escrow transactions? While I don't intend to be involved much in this drama, it's certainly not okay to be late on escrow payments. That's how you break trust. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 01, 2014, 09:02:52 AM Yeah, there are good people too. Theymos, if you need someone else to hold those coins, ... ... :) I think, more than anything, John K does not have the intention of just disappearing. Something has happened to him, and unfortunately we don't know what. Didn't he disappear for a couple of months before he returned? (only to disappear again). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on April 01, 2014, 09:43:50 AM Yeah, there are good people too. Theymos, if you need someone else to hold those coins, ... ... :) I think, more than anything, John K does not have the intention of just disappearing. Something has happened to him, and unfortunately we don't know what. Didn't he disappear for a couple of months before he returned? (only to disappear again). Exactly, it's all very strange. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 02, 2014, 07:45:45 AM By now you should assume anyone in an important position on this forum is a scammer. There are plenty of good people too! Really, who? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 02, 2014, 01:18:09 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on April 02, 2014, 02:24:43 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first? My guess would be that it's up to Coinroll, who so far (to my knowledge) seem uninterested in resolving this. But maybe they've been making investigations of their own. Though I'm sure some people in the forum are aware of John's identity. I'm not really sure why there isn't more of a response to this. The address still has the coin in, I'm sure more people than myself is watching it. My guess is John has been incapacitated or has had some hardware problem. Though his popping up and paying Theymos then disappearing again is massively suspicious. Perhaps we'll never know. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on April 02, 2014, 04:26:54 PM By now you should assume anyone in an important position on this forum is a scammer. There are plenty of good people too! Really, who? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Polycoin on April 02, 2014, 04:28:55 PM John is a scammer, no if and or buts about it, either that or he carelessly lost the coins..Anyway..
I am the most trustworthy person on this forum, give me our coins and I will keep them safe for you, so safe you might not even be able to get them back. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: faiza1990 on April 02, 2014, 04:42:40 PM John is a scammer, no if and or buts about it, either that or he carelessly lost the coins..Anyway.. I agree with you after TF and bit365 you are the most trustworthy person here on this forum and we need escrow service provider like you :DI am the most trustworthy person on this forum, give me our coins and I will keep them safe for you, so safe you might not even be able to get them back. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: guybrushthreepwood on April 03, 2014, 12:33:55 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first? You should gather what info you have on him, but not sure what legal action would be successful here. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on April 03, 2014, 01:23:50 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first? You should gather what info you have on him, but not sure what legal action would be successful here. I think legal action is realistic as long as you have the information, I'm sure coinroll would love someone else to do their job for them. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: gidi337 on April 03, 2014, 01:39:16 PM well unfortunately john was on the malaysian airline.
i did call him and all i heard was glug glug glug * i got his last whats app message that he is now doing escrow service of fishcoin ™ . although he is not happy with the volatility as there are too many whales where he is. he claimed that his escrow service is now the safest as all fishcoins are held in very cold storage secure at the depths of the ocean unaccessable to any hacker. he has not had a chance to reply as he needs to sign everthing but his ballpoint pen does not work underwater The malaysian authorities have now given up trying to search with pings and are now using dongs *http://wonderfulengineering.com/the-mystery-behind-ringing-cell-phones-on-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-uncovered/ Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: guybrushthreepwood on April 03, 2014, 01:43:22 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first? You should gather what info you have on him, but not sure what legal action would be successful here. I think legal action is realistic as long as you have the information, I'm sure coinroll would love someone else to do their job for them. Yeah, but what do you have other than an email address? Will law enforcement even be interested in or do anything about theft of bitcoins? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 03, 2014, 01:45:02 PM well unfortunately john was on the malaysian airline. That joke wasn’t funny the first time someone made it, but John was long gone before the Malasia flight. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: bigtimespaghetti on April 03, 2014, 02:12:55 PM At what point do we start talking about legal action? I guess we need to ID him first? You should gather what info you have on him, but not sure what legal action would be successful here. I think legal action is realistic as long as you have the information, I'm sure coinroll would love someone else to do their job for them. Yeah, but what do you have other than an email address? Will law enforcement even be interested in or do anything about theft of bitcoins? If there is only an email address then I do not know how anyone could proceed without the assistance of law enforcement or perhaps some super hackers. And for 100BTC? I doubt anything will be done. Besides I don't think anything will happen. If anything could have been done someone would have stepped forward already and there has been radio silence as far as I know. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on April 03, 2014, 04:25:58 PM well unfortunately john was on the malaysian airline. That joke wasn’t funny the first time someone made it, but John was long gone before the Malasia flight. Again and again same matter not helping any one if some one have solid information then post here Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: icey on April 04, 2014, 07:44:23 AM Just popping in to see if anyone has heard anything. From looking at the recent posts, still nothing
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 05, 2014, 08:13:10 PM It was quite a genius move to name the thread topic: "not dead or running". I think from the moment this thread was started he had no intention of ever returning. It just bought time, distance, false hope and a head start to run and hide. He stops by to return 1000 of the forums coins but decides to run off with a relatively measly 100 instead? I think he already had a head start of two months before he decided to return (and then disappear again). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on April 05, 2014, 08:20:47 PM It was quite a genius move to name the thread topic: "not dead or running". I think from the moment this thread was started he had no intention of ever returning. It just bought time, distance, false hope and a head start to run and hide. He stops by to return 1000 of the forums coins but decides to run off with a relatively measly 100 instead? I think he already had a head start of two months before he decided to return (and then disappear again). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: yurimir on April 08, 2014, 06:47:14 PM Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DannyHamilton on April 08, 2014, 06:50:37 PM Maybe this is John K?
A good friend of mine recently past away at the age of 19 and he was heavily involved in the Bitcoin world. He was paranoid of someone taking his efforts so he created an offline wallet to store his bitcoins. The day he was at the hospital he gave me a paper and said this is all you will need to access the coins. He passed away that same day and I have no idea of how to access. - snip - Yes, he was a member on all the forums. - snip - Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: casinocoin on April 08, 2014, 07:08:24 PM If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. No, it have EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM. He was in an important position provided by the administration and used exclusively this forum to provide his escrow services. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 08, 2014, 07:18:21 PM Care to translate? Or am I safe in assuming it just means 'fuck you' :D. Maybe this is John K? A good friend of mine recently past away at the age of 19 and he was heavily involved in the Bitcoin world. He was paranoid of someone taking his efforts so he created an offline wallet to store his bitcoins. The day he was at the hospital he gave me a paper and said this is all you will need to access the coins. He passed away that same day and I have no idea of how to access. - snip - Yes, he was a member on all the forums. - snip - Interesting. Someone asked him if his name was John. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: malevolent on April 08, 2014, 08:23:23 PM Care to translate? Or am I safe in assuming it just means 'fuck you' :D. He already provided the translation ("no offense, just conclusions"). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on April 10, 2014, 09:02:52 AM If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. No, it have EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM. He was in an important position provided by the administration and used exclusively this forum to provide his escrow services. Thanks for quoting that, I ignored him a while back and that's good for a laugh. He's such a hypocrite. ...By the way, I am glad to know Mr. John is an administrator now. I think I would only accept him participating in this section. Mr. John is far more mature and business driven than Theymos. We need someone like Mr. John giving the orders around here. He actually wanted John running this forum, but as soon as things go sideways he's so quick to blame others. He says whatever suits his agenda at the moment. And to think I respected the guy at one point. It's sad seeing people stoop to this level. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Bicknellski on April 11, 2014, 08:15:10 AM Trust but verify. Always verify. Wonder what the heck John K. is doing given the exemplar services he provided in the past.
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #YmZQBicmNIG7j9x9 Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 11, 2014, 08:37:43 AM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Light on April 11, 2014, 11:12:01 AM Unless he feared the forum owners would reveal his identity? Do they actually have all his dox or some partial information about his identity? Man, after 3 months he still hasn't said a word or even logged in. Talk about a hiatus. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 11, 2014, 11:34:34 AM Unless he feared the forum owners would reveal his identity? Do they actually have all his dox or some partial information about his identity? Man, after 3 months he still hasn't said a word or even logged in. Talk about a hiatus. He went AWOL for quite a while before he returned as well. Seems it might've happened before in the past too from what I gather. Do they actually have all his dox or some partial information about his identity? I don't know SMF but forums usually have a record of all IPs ever used to post. That certainly can be useful.Yeah, but see this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412061.msg6088230#msg6088230 Plus Theymos said he's unlikely to release this stuff without a reasonable police request or something. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Light on April 11, 2014, 11:40:56 AM Yeah, but see this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412061.msg6088230#msg6088230 Plus Theymos said he's unlikely to release this stuff without a reasonable police request or something. Hm... wouldn't they still have logs from before he was using a VPN/Tor? Or does theymos not keep any logs at all after a certain period of time? What I don't get is that if he wanted to scam he could have easily waited for a few more escrow orders to come in to get more and then run off - with the worst case scenario only having to return the forums coins if theymos had leverage over him via his details. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 11, 2014, 12:41:23 PM Yeah, but see this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412061.msg6088230#msg6088230 Plus Theymos said he's unlikely to release this stuff without a reasonable police request or something. Hm... wouldn't they still have logs from before he was using a VPN/Tor? Or does theymos not keep any logs at all after a certain period of time? What I don't get is that if he wanted to scam he could have easily waited for a few more escrow orders to come in to get more and then run off - with the worst case scenario only having to return the forums coins if theymos had leverage over him via his details. Yes, it is a very bizarre situation, but he apparently had a group buy escrow still held as well (and possibly others). I can't speak on behalf of what logs theymos retains, but forums I've modded on before tend to keep a log of all IPs used, but that's irrelevant if he won't give them out and there might not be much you could do with them anyway. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 12, 2014, 02:46:45 AM If you have a problem with John regarding his escrows, that doesn't really have anything to do with the forum. This thread is also a better fit in service discussion since it's about his escrows, not meta. No, it have EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM. He was in an important position provided by the administration and used exclusively this forum to provide his escrow services. Thanks for quoting that, I ignored him a while back and that's good for a laugh. He's such a hypocrite. ...By the way, I am glad to know Mr. John is an administrator now. I think I would only accept him participating in this section. Mr. John is far more mature and business driven than Theymos. We need someone like Mr. John giving the orders around here. He actually wanted John running this forum, but as soon as things go sideways he's so quick to blame others. He says whatever suits his agenda at the moment. And to think I respected the guy at one point. It's sad seeing people stoop to this level. You are quoting out of the context... Anyway, Badbear, you still did not learn that you should never trust in words at face value. Do not think that everything I write represent exactly what I think. If you did not realize, I play with words to obtain premeditated responses. Moreover, whatever I said it will not change the fact that it was due to the administration consent that John K. perpetrated his scheme. ...and no, I would never really like another young idiot administrating this forum. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 14, 2014, 03:12:10 PM Yes, it is a very bizarre situation, but he apparently had a group buy escrow still held as well (and possibly others). I can't speak on behalf of what logs theymos retains, but forums I've modded on before tend to keep a log of all IPs used, but that's irrelevant if he won't give them out and there might not be much you could do with them anyway. Why wouldn't the forum owners help us get to the bottom of this? A scam has been committed by one of the admins.I don't know. You'd have to ask them. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on April 14, 2014, 05:46:53 PM Its more then 3 months and if admins can do I sure they must do this favor to members but I think they also cannot do any thing about this because John K have no contact with any one
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 14, 2014, 05:49:56 PM The winners have a contract with coinroll.it, who has a contract with John. K. We should be going after them, and they get to worry about John. K.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 14, 2014, 09:23:03 PM The winners have a contract with coinroll.it, who has a contract with John. K. We should be going after them, and they get to worry about John. K. Might be your best bet, but I'm sure they'll just say it's out of their hands. Doubt they're going to shell out another 100BTC prize though. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on April 16, 2014, 11:32:14 AM A great news for all winners in Coinroll John K is back and sending payments to all ;D
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 16, 2014, 12:10:25 PM A great news for all winners in Coinroll John K is back and sending payments to all ;D Well that was unexpected. Isn't there that groupbuy too? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: BadBear on April 16, 2014, 12:24:08 PM Hah, thought that guy was trolling, but he really is.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on April 16, 2014, 12:27:34 PM Hah, thought that guy was trolling, but he really is. I was the first who check John K is now in green and I post here just because of this most members thinking I am trolling ;) :DTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 12:30:26 PM PS: I'm indeed still alive (although still recovering) and clearing up stuff. Thank god only the group buy remains so far. (with 54.x~BTC outstanding) The raffle has been sorted out already.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DannyHamilton on April 16, 2014, 12:35:01 PM PS: I'm indeed still alive (although still recovering) and clearing up stuff. Thank god only the group buy remains so far. (with 54.x~BTC outstanding) The raffle has been sorted out already. Welcome back. Let me know if there's anything I can do to assist. Glad to hear you're still alive. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: malevolent on April 16, 2014, 12:36:32 PM Just removed my negative feedback that I left you and good to know that you're alive, but WTF, were you in a coma or something?
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 16, 2014, 01:00:13 PM Confirmed! PAID! Thanks John. Very happy you're back.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: b!z on April 16, 2014, 02:24:42 PM Welcome back John. I claim movie rights to your story 8)
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 16, 2014, 06:26:37 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on April 16, 2014, 07:06:01 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 16, 2014, 07:25:41 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: ReBoRn on April 16, 2014, 07:27:22 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 07:32:45 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512 Well, just to confirm for the record - it's me alright. Nope, not leaving or anything, it's just that I might not be as active here (logging in twice per day?) as before for some time. Hopefully I'll be able to find more time in the coming month after I finish sorting out my RL issues. Signed, John April 16 2014 PS: I'm still a staunch believer in btc and I do still hold my personal coins. PPS: The hospital one was kinda correct, yes. PPPS: Edited and re-signed due to erroneous date. He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTTuXQAAoJEINT5jezqu6wZbwQAIOae3zoBZ77Cu2/OS5ptWbs LjpqaoHhCUFC7N6xsRgLHvABn63r5oAq8r54q1ODHlrUtuHmAhi8leDurxZVkojt 5GdCXdpnpJdob+bRFr5iZEljhYtAlHx3ht4TWA/jpcODK1JAluMlFd0TT4JbuBnV y76vTL+K1b84roLVtPY1Lpj+WgcgxBHuV8VCZQIj2hJIsM6Cq83mKLardIJDs2qA W1rBrj4dngtevYZ5pZUFaleDs7Mfg54VwHGY9ijvuelrTyWNAMWKvvjBW7grLCX9 Hv4pRSk0YwxKTzjYCTUvhKAGwF+XHfnfSpEtW6wZhDVwNZohWMXCAMNiSdnaXMO2 J0fPEALNLqGPFzON0+9PPOI2mIWg+QgfuKAZyW9PIJ2MV67jcqz3/xDjj/we1gkE 2IvnsdnePoZwL5b74on233f5Ku/zOWujSDNpWzCTaSd40owv/tMv9qz4b+Z6f7qw wGkURZvZE5Z9iZA/tIY6HMgsLlJyKyCFEVzHZcy5GlsBpQhLs/kiM0PG2nMVFXY0 QtcJw8PQNoNJd480HuSO4tI7Eu4pYnZxDrF9A6phs+yovTEGUxB+GI9AlEcA4QmF Tq3rSNIm0iMCQGzO9wnQ1SwWYjN0M2gYP1k556WA24//tx1hL8Ig96AcMlfE8q8T Vi7yYQUkrCLm5nPpzzlN =YBkX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: pekv2 on April 16, 2014, 07:34:12 PM WB, John. :D Hope all is right.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 07:37:15 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. WB, John. :D Hope all is right. Thanks mate! :D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 16, 2014, 07:52:27 PM ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 08:02:29 PM ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with. :D Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: railzand on April 16, 2014, 08:15:14 PM You came back from the future? Wow this bitcoin is strong stuff.
Get better soon. Signed, John April 16 2017 Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 08:20:23 PM You came back from the future? Wow this bitcoin is strong stuff. Get better soon. Signed, John April 16 2017 LOL nice catch, thanks again! ;) PS: edited. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on April 16, 2014, 11:17:25 PM Hurray John was alive I was having fun with conspiracy theories but glad to see you have returned.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on April 17, 2014, 12:54:15 AM Hi John K. Okay, there goes my escrow. LOL.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 17, 2014, 01:00:48 AM ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with. :D Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene... The last drama is that you disappeared with a large quantity of money and did not left any contact to let anyone know what was going on. That means, you just hold money for a period of time that was not yours and did not explained up to now why you did that. A message signed with PGP means nothing at this point and just look one more distraction of the real issue: why did you hold the money for so long? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 17, 2014, 01:24:36 AM ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with. :D Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene... The last drama is that you disappeared with a large quantity of money and did not left any contact to let anyone know what was going on. That means, you just hold money for a period of time that was not yours and did not explained up to now why you did that. A message signed with PGP means nothing at this point and just look one more distraction of the real issue: why did you hold the money for so long? He got into some personal shit dude. Real life takes priority sometimes. People are paid and life is good. Don't make something out of it that isn't there. tl;dr STFU Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 17, 2014, 06:40:19 AM Good to see the ghost has reappeared and paid out, good to see you even if I don't really know you.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 17, 2014, 01:41:36 PM Real life takes priority sometimes. Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate. I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on April 17, 2014, 01:44:35 PM Real life takes priority sometimes. Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate. I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life). Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 17, 2014, 02:28:12 PM Still no excuse. A simple solution might be to have a third party that witnesses the escrows in case the primary escrow holder disappears for 3 months. That third party could also hold collateral of the primary escrow, so he could step in and release escrow if required.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: DannyHamilton on April 17, 2014, 02:28:47 PM Real life takes priority sometimes. Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate. This I agree with. When you are holding someone else's money, it IS real life. If you are going to be responsible for someone else's money, then you need to be responsible with other people's money. I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life). It is good that he returned and paid. Clearly he's not a thief or scammer. However, there are other escrow providers here that supply contact information so they can be reached even if bitcointalk.org is offline, and they can be held responsible for timely and proper handling of the funds they are holding. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 17, 2014, 04:05:31 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance.
Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 18, 2014, 03:20:30 AM When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims? LoL What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price! It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 18, 2014, 08:36:34 AM When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims? LoL What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price! It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss... PS: If you or anyone checks the addresses involved, they'll notice that the funds are never moved nor touched during my hiatus. TBH, if I really wanted to do anything malignant, I wouldn't do it using the 100 or so BTC's remaining with me when I was on hiatus. My personal BTC funds amount to far more than that, and I have been in control in a lot more of other users' funds before that as I averaged about 2-3k BTC that belonged with others before that. It simply doesn't make sense for me to abscond with that meagre amount when I could theoretically run with more. My personal investments with some parties in this forums amount to more than that, for example, and my permanent departure would cost me more. Well, this would be my last explanation/attempt to defend myself anyway. It is my fault for disappearing without leaving a message for almost 3 months and I'm not going to dodge that. *John shuts down computer and goes back to sleep* Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Kyraishi on April 18, 2014, 08:50:09 AM When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims? LoL What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price! It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss... there is coincidence with the new coinroll.it thread appearing too ! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: saif92 on April 18, 2014, 10:08:06 AM When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims? LoL What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price! It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss... there is coincidence with the new coinroll.it thread appearing too ! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: EFS on April 18, 2014, 10:10:57 AM Welcome back John. I'm glad you're okay.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on April 18, 2014, 11:36:40 AM In defense of John K, I told you guys all, he is not the type of person to just disappear with anyone else's coins (much less his own invested in others), unless something bad happened to him in real life / offline.
It is completely understandable that he would not be using anyone else to escrow what he is escrowing (and then doubling the fee in the process.) There are a few of us on this forum (at least two escrow list threads I am aware of being maintained.) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Bicknellski on April 18, 2014, 01:40:41 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance. Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaud you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. +1 hope he recovers fully and comes back strong. Agree the name was ok... should have kept it. I liked the double entendre that he didn't get. ;D Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 18, 2014, 02:03:35 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance. Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Sounds like bitcoinland is more real than "real life". Your "real life" sounds like a sterilised utopia where stupidity doesn't hurt. Your real life has such wonderful things like Bernie Madoff, Obama, W. Bush, Janet Yellen, Stalin, Justin Bieber, Castro, Chavez, Maduro, TheIRS, Piers Morgan, Kim Jong-un, Courtney Love, Billary Clinton, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Idi Amin, and John Boehner. I've lost a whopping 3% of my BTC to scammers. I've lost 30% of my USD to scammers. The difference is, I had a option who I opened myself up to being scammed by with BTC. In "real life" my options are get scammed, or go to jail. I'll take bitcoinland. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 18, 2014, 08:31:08 PM PS: If you or anyone checks the addresses involved, they'll notice that the funds are never moved nor touched during my hiatus. TBH, if I really wanted to do anything malignant, I wouldn't do it using the 100 or so BTC's remaining with me when I was on hiatus. My personal BTC funds amount to far more than that, and I have been in control in a lot more of other users' funds before that as I averaged about 2-3k BTC that belonged with others before that. It simply doesn't make sense for me to abscond with that meagre amount when I could theoretically run with more. My personal investments with some parties in this forums amount to more than that, for example, and my permanent departure would cost me more. Well, this would be my last explanation/attempt to defend myself anyway. It is my fault for disappearing without leaving a message for almost 3 months and I'm not going to dodge that. *John shuts down computer and goes back to sleep* Right... So? Let's try again: what exactly kept you away from this forum while holding people's money? Which part of this crucial question you did not understand? Some people are not interested about your supposedly personal investments, but why you just vanished. ...and yes! It is your fault, indeed. You assumed certain duties as escrow agent. In the real world you would have to pay heavy interest for what you did here. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: server on April 18, 2014, 09:06:41 PM PS: If you or anyone checks the addresses involved, they'll notice that the funds are never moved nor touched during my hiatus. TBH, if I really wanted to do anything malignant, I wouldn't do it using the 100 or so BTC's remaining with me when I was on hiatus. My personal BTC funds amount to far more than that, and I have been in control in a lot more of other users' funds before that as I averaged about 2-3k BTC that belonged with others before that. It simply doesn't make sense for me to abscond with that meagre amount when I could theoretically run with more. My personal investments with some parties in this forums amount to more than that, for example, and my permanent departure would cost me more. Well, this would be my last explanation/attempt to defend myself anyway. It is my fault for disappearing without leaving a message for almost 3 months and I'm not going to dodge that. *John shuts down computer and goes back to sleep* Right... So? Let's try again: what exactly kept you away from this forum while holding people's money? Which part of this crucial question you did not understand? Some people are not interested about your supposedly personal investments, but why you just vanished. ...and yes! It is your fault, indeed. You assumed certain duties as escrow agent. In the real world you would have to pay heavy interest for what you did here. Again? mannn... what part of "RL issues" and "The hospital one was kinda correct" did you miss? You can't expect more detail on this subject on a public forum. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Polycoin on April 19, 2014, 02:53:39 AM PS: If you or anyone checks the addresses involved, they'll notice that the funds are never moved nor touched during my hiatus. TBH, if I really wanted to do anything malignant, I wouldn't do it using the 100 or so BTC's remaining with me when I was on hiatus. My personal BTC funds amount to far more than that, and I have been in control in a lot more of other users' funds before that as I averaged about 2-3k BTC that belonged with others before that. It simply doesn't make sense for me to abscond with that meagre amount when I could theoretically run with more. My personal investments with some parties in this forums amount to more than that, for example, and my permanent departure would cost me more. Well, this would be my last explanation/attempt to defend myself anyway. It is my fault for disappearing without leaving a message for almost 3 months and I'm not going to dodge that. *John shuts down computer and goes back to sleep* Right... So? Let's try again: what exactly kept you away from this forum while holding people's money? Which part of this crucial question you did not understand? Some people are not interested about your supposedly personal investments, but why you just vanished. ...and yes! It is your fault, indeed. You assumed certain duties as escrow agent. In the real world you would have to pay heavy interest for what you did here. Yea grow up Augusto! I'm not sticking up for him, but the money/BTC was never moved or touched. He has emergency hospital issue, gives you no right to ask him questions like that.... Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 19, 2014, 05:15:20 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance. Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Sounds like bitcoinland is more real than "real life". Your "real life" sounds like a sterilised utopia where stupidity doesn't hurt. Your real life has such wonderful things like Bernie Madoff, Obama, W. Bush, Janet Yellen, Stalin, Justin Bieber, Castro, Chavez, Maduro, TheIRS, Piers Morgan, Kim Jong-un, Courtney Love, Billary Clinton, Pol Pot, Mao, Idi Amin, and John Boehner. I've lost a whopping 3% of my BTC to scammers. I've lost 30% of my USD to scammers. The difference is, I had a option who I opened myself up to being scammed by with BTC. In "real life" my options are get scammed, or go to jail. I'll take bitcoinland. First, your examples are complete nonsense. You're using political leaders as examples. Bitcoin is not a country it's a payment processing system that's regulated by countries. Second, even if you believe Bitcoin is a tiny economy just like government fiat. It's so small in comparison it's like a flea on an elephants ass. Also, because of its size you can't compare Bitcoin to fiat economies unless you adjust percentages based on the size of the money supply, volume and velocity of the economy. The circulation of Bitcoin compared to say the US Dollar is so small that some individual banks dealing with dollars handle more transactions in a day than happen in Bitcoinland in a month. Finally, if you adjust based on the above criterion you realize that Bitcoinland is a den of thieves in comparison. Clearly 7-10% of all Bitcoins in existence over a short 4 year period have been stolen. Remember, that's a 4 year period not the several hundred years that a single countries fiat has existed. Sell it on the road homie. John is still one in a thousand (not one in a million because Bitcoinland isn't that large) and should be praised for returning the funds even if he had no personal crises happening. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: twentyseventy on April 19, 2014, 05:54:33 PM Hi John K. Okay, there goes my escrow. LOL. Pretty sure you'll still have a pretty solid escrow customer base, Dabs. As much as John seems like a genuine guy, and many are glad that he's returned, prolonged unannounced absences are bad for business in this line of work. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: augustocroppo on April 20, 2014, 02:19:15 AM Yea grow up Augusto! I'm not sticking up for him, but the money/BTC was never moved or touched. He has emergency hospital issue, gives you no right to ask him questions like that.... That is just an assumption and people like you are the reason why Bitcoin will never achieve wide acceptance. You believe in any claim that some random forum account tell you without require the necessary evidence. That is why "cryptocurrency" is becoming more like a joke as everyday goes. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on April 20, 2014, 09:24:55 AM Hi John K. Okay, there goes my escrow. LOL. Pretty sure you'll still have a pretty solid escrow customer base, Dabs. As much as John seems like a genuine guy, and many are glad that he's returned, prolonged unannounced absences are bad for business in this line of work. Oh, I think it's sort of a running joke between me and him (actually, between him and everyone else). I've got a handful right now, but nowhere near 100 BTC. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: John (John K.) on April 20, 2014, 05:30:13 PM Hi John K. Okay, there goes my escrow. LOL. Pretty sure you'll still have a pretty solid escrow customer base, Dabs. As much as John seems like a genuine guy, and many are glad that he's returned, prolonged unannounced absences are bad for business in this line of work. Oh, I think it's sort of a running joke between me and him (actually, between him and everyone else). I've got a handful right now, but nowhere near 100 BTC. Yep, I welcome competition (especially when I'm still on hiatus mode right now) seeing that my original and current intention of being an escrow is to facilitate trade and to boost bitcoin in overall and not to turn a profit. When bitcoin eventually hits higher highs that'll be my best reward/profit. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Dabs on April 21, 2014, 04:50:28 AM Yep, I welcome competition (especially when I'm still on hiatus mode right now) seeing that my original and current intention of being an escrow is to facilitate trade and to boost bitcoin in overall and not to turn a profit. When bitcoin eventually hits higher highs that'll be my best reward/profit. Is competition still welcome when you're back? (Just kidding!) It's quite hard to really turn a profit on 1% to 2% when we don't have the volume of your typical gambling / dice site and everything is done manually. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 21, 2014, 03:48:38 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance. Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Sounds like bitcoinland is more real than "real life". Your "real life" sounds like a sterilised utopia where stupidity doesn't hurt. Your real life has such wonderful things like Bernie Madoff, Obama, W. Bush, Janet Yellen, Stalin, Justin Bieber, Castro, Chavez, Maduro, TheIRS, Piers Morgan, Kim Jong-un, Courtney Love, Billary Clinton, Pol Pot, Mao, Idi Amin, and John Boehner. I've lost a whopping 3% of my BTC to scammers. I've lost 30% of my USD to scammers. The difference is, I had a option who I opened myself up to being scammed by with BTC. In "real life" my options are get scammed, or go to jail. I'll take bitcoinland. First, your examples are complete nonsense. You're using political leaders as examples. Bitcoin is not a country it's a payment processing system that's regulated by countries. Second, even if you believe Bitcoin is a tiny economy just like government fiat. It's so small in comparison it's like a flea on an elephants ass. Also, because of its size you can't compare Bitcoin to fiat economies unless you adjust percentages based on the size of the money supply, volume and velocity of the economy. The circulation of Bitcoin compared to say the US Dollar is so small that some individual banks dealing with dollars handle more transactions in a day than happen in Bitcoinland in a month. Finally, if you adjust based on the above criterion you realize that Bitcoinland is a den of thieves in comparison. Clearly 7-10% of all Bitcoins in existence over a short 4 year period have been stolen. Remember, that's a 4 year period not the several hundred years that a single countries fiat has existed. Sell it on the road homie. John is still one in a thousand (not one in a million because Bitcoinland isn't that large) and should be praised for returning the funds even if he had no personal crises happening. Countries PRETEND to regulate bitcoin. There is no functional external regulation exerted on bitcoin itself. Only internal (the protocol). Should we compare the growth rate of the USD economy vs the BTC economy? Comparing the absolute size is intellectually dishonest. Fiat is a government sponsored den of thieves. Over 100% of all USD has been stolen in the form of tax. Each and every dollar ('cept the shiney new ones the FED is printing... which are stolen value simply in their creation) has likely been stolen over and over and over. That is the purpose of fiat currency. You gotta be a kool aid drinker to not see that. (see, I can logical fallacy too, homie) Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 21, 2014, 07:19:04 PM I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance. Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells? In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves. When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light. Sounds like bitcoinland is more real than "real life". Your "real life" sounds like a sterilised utopia where stupidity doesn't hurt. Your real life has such wonderful things like Bernie Madoff, Obama, W. Bush, Janet Yellen, Stalin, Justin Bieber, Castro, Chavez, Maduro, TheIRS, Piers Morgan, Kim Jong-un, Courtney Love, Billary Clinton, Pol Pot, Mao, Idi Amin, and John Boehner. I've lost a whopping 3% of my BTC to scammers. I've lost 30% of my USD to scammers. The difference is, I had a option who I opened myself up to being scammed by with BTC. In "real life" my options are get scammed, or go to jail. I'll take bitcoinland. First, your examples are complete nonsense. You're using political leaders as examples. Bitcoin is not a country it's a payment processing system that's regulated by countries. Second, even if you believe Bitcoin is a tiny economy just like government fiat. It's so small in comparison it's like a flea on an elephants ass. Also, because of its size you can't compare Bitcoin to fiat economies unless you adjust percentages based on the size of the money supply, volume and velocity of the economy. The circulation of Bitcoin compared to say the US Dollar is so small that some individual banks dealing with dollars handle more transactions in a day than happen in Bitcoinland in a month. Finally, if you adjust based on the above criterion you realize that Bitcoinland is a den of thieves in comparison. Clearly 7-10% of all Bitcoins in existence over a short 4 year period have been stolen. Remember, that's a 4 year period not the several hundred years that a single countries fiat has existed. Sell it on the road homie. John is still one in a thousand (not one in a million because Bitcoinland isn't that large) and should be praised for returning the funds even if he had no personal crises happening. Countries PRETEND to regulate bitcoin. There is no functional external regulation exerted on bitcoin itself. Only internal (the protocol). Should we compare the growth rate of the USD economy vs the BTC economy? Comparing the absolute size is intellectually dishonest. Fiat is a government sponsored den of thieves. Over 100% of all USD has been stolen in the form of tax. Each and every dollar ('cept the shiney new ones the FED is printing... which are stolen value simply in their creation) has likely been stolen over and over and over. That is the purpose of fiat currency. You gotta be a kool aid drinker to not see that. (see, I can logical fallacy too, homie) Again, comparing apples and oranges. You can't compare Bitcoin (a payment processing system) with a government tax authority. You want to compare Bitcoin to something equivalent? Try comparing Bitcoin to Amazon Payments. Do you really think Amazon Payments would still be in business if 10% of its customer funds had been stolen in the past four years? I doubt it. You libertarian nutters always want to compare government flaws to Bitcoin like it's a country. Where exactly is the country of Bitcoin located on a map? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 21, 2014, 08:00:46 PM Again, comparing apples and oranges. You can't compare Bitcoin (a payment processing system) with a government tax authority. You want to compare Bitcoin to something equivalent? Try comparing Bitcoin to Amazon Payments. Do you really think Amazon Payments would still be in business if 10% of its customer funds had been stolen in the past four years? I doubt it. You libertarian nutters always want to compare government flaws to Bitcoin like it's a country. Where exactly is the country of Bitcoin located on a map? How is comparing the USD economy to the BTC economy exactly THAT different? If you'll take a minute to read through the noob section, you'll see how a protocol differs from a privately run service. You statist stockholmers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) always want to excuse your masters. Show me where exactly on the ground those map lines naturally occur? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on April 21, 2014, 08:07:37 PM Again, comparing apples and oranges. You can't compare Bitcoin (a payment processing system) with a government tax authority. You want to compare Bitcoin to something equivalent? Try comparing Bitcoin to Amazon Payments. Do you really think Amazon Payments would still be in business if 10% of its customer funds had been stolen in the past four years? I doubt it. You libertarian nutters always want to compare government flaws to Bitcoin like it's a country. Where exactly is the country of Bitcoin located on a map? How is comparing the USD economy to the BTC economy exactly THAT different? If you'll take a minute to read through the noob section, you'll see how a protocol differs from a privately run service. You statist stockholmers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) always want to excuse your masters. Show me where exactly on the ground those map lines naturally occur? Sorry but this conversation is over. I don't think there are enough words to make you understand the difference between private enterprise and public enterprise. I don't excuse government faults. I have a long history of protesting against them but when I protest I do it in front of the capital building not in front of Burger King. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: CoinDiver on April 21, 2014, 08:40:15 PM I don't think Again, please take yourself over to the noob section until you understand bitcoin well enough to have an intelligent conversation.It's good to see how all that whining at the feet of your master is going for you. "I don't excuse my masters faults, I know he's got my best interest at heart when he whips me" --ObeyAuthority Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: Cyrus on April 24, 2014, 11:50:02 PM Hey John, glad to see you're well and back :).
Welcome back buddy! Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: hilariousandco on April 29, 2014, 08:28:29 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0
I guess the note next to John's name can be modified now or maybe him removed all together if he's not performing escrows any more? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on April 29, 2014, 08:36:00 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0 Now john is back and coming daily online so need to lock this thread ;)I guess the note next to John's name can be modified now or maybe him removed all together if he's not performing escrows any more? Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: freedomno1 on May 01, 2014, 08:48:21 AM Well it is John's thread so he can lock it whenever he feels like it
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: counter on May 01, 2014, 11:27:25 AM I just wanted to welcome John K back. Good to see things getting back to normal around here haha. ;D
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: uhoh on May 04, 2014, 01:39:54 AM Good to see you back, John.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: r34tr783tr78 on May 04, 2014, 06:44:52 PM At last, it seems people stopped bashing John.
Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: MoneyGod on May 04, 2014, 09:35:08 PM At last, it seems people stopped bashing John. Yes now he is giving time to this forum as done in past and hope now he will be active for escrows againTitle: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: El Cabron on May 21, 2014, 04:16:34 AM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. I do not think you know Theymos very well, he would never give someone BTC. Title: Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 21, 2014, 03:52:04 PM He's either dead, in the hospital or in jail. No one goes from 0 to 60 that fast. This makes no sense at all. If he was going to completely wash his hands of Bitcoin and the forum he would have taken the forums coin too. Tell me John, was I right and which one was it? I vote for in the hospital since you're obviously not dead or in jail. He came and then left again? That's odd! Are we sure it isn't just Theymos using his account to make the escrow payments and save face for the forum? I guess it doesn't matter either way. The debts are paid and his name is clear. That's good for him and good for the forum. I do not think you know Theymos very well, he would never give someone BTC. Yeah, I know Goat. Didn't you see the posts after that. I was just trying to draw him out to get him to respond to me and I knew that would do it. ;) |
