Obligatory I'm not dead or running post

[John (John K.)]

ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with.

Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene...

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[railzand]

You came back from the future? Wow this bitcoin is strong stuff.

Get better soon.

Signed,
John

April 16 2017

[John (John K.)]

You came back from the future? Wow this bitcoin is strong stuff.

Get better soon.

Signed,
John

April 16 2017

LOL nice catch, thanks again!

PS: edited.

[freedomno1]

Hurray John was alive I was having fun with conspiracy theories but glad to see you have returned.

[Dabs]

Hi John K. Okay, there goes my escrow. LOL.

[augustocroppo]

ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with.

Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene...

The last drama is that you disappeared with a large quantity of money and did not left any contact to let anyone know what was going on. That means, you just hold money for a period of time that was not yours and did not explained up to now why you did that. A message signed with PGP means nothing at this point and just look one more distraction of the real issue: why did you hold the money for so long?

[QuestionAuthority]

ROFL - I thought if I made that comment about theymos that would get you to respond. Glad you're back and also glad your not added to the hacks and scams thread. Get well soon or good luck with whatever RL stuff ur dealing with.

Thanks, I just happened to log in when you posted lol. I'm still somewhat trying to get myself updated with the latest drama happening in the scene...

The last drama is that you disappeared with a large quantity of money and did not left any contact to let anyone know what was going on. That means, you just hold money for a period of time that was not yours and did not explained up to now why you did that. A message signed with PGP means nothing at this point and just look one more distraction of the real issue: why did you hold the money for so long?

He got into some personal shit dude. Real life takes priority sometimes. People are paid and life is good. Don't make something out of it that isn't there.

tl;dr  STFU

[Swordsoffreedom]

Good to see the ghost has reappeared and paid out, good to see you even if I don't really know you.

[CoinDiver]

Real life takes priority sometimes.

Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate.

I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life).

[MoneyGod]

Real life takes priority sometimes.

Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate.

I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life).

But some time you have to face many things which came suddenly and you have no option to avoid them then need time to settle all these first

[CoinDiver]

Still no excuse. A simple solution might be to have a third party that witnesses the escrows in case the primary escrow holder disappears for 3 months. That third party could also hold collateral of the primary escrow, so he could step in and release escrow if required.

[DannyHamilton]

Real life takes priority sometimes.

Please explain how bitcoin and real life are somehow entirely separate.

This I agree with.  When you are holding someone else's money, it IS real life.  If you are going to be responsible for someone else's money, then you need to be responsible with other people's money.

I'm very happy John paid, but there is no excuse for how this was handled. Better escrow is needed in bitcoin land (as opposed to real life).

It is good that he returned and paid.  Clearly he's not a thief or scammer.  However, there are other escrow providers here that supply contact information so they can be reached even if bitcointalk.org is offline, and they can be held responsible for timely and proper handling of the funds they are holding.

[QuestionAuthority]

I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance.

Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells?

In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves.

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

[augustocroppo]

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims?

LoL

What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price!

It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss...

[John (John K.)]

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims?

LoL

What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price!

It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss...

PS: If you or anyone checks the addresses involved, they'll notice that the funds are never moved nor touched during my hiatus. TBH, if I really wanted to do anything malignant, I wouldn't do it using the 100 or so BTC's remaining with me when I was on hiatus. My personal BTC funds amount to far more than that, and I have been in control in a lot more of other users' funds before that as I averaged about 2-3k BTC that belonged with others before that. It simply doesn't make sense for me to abscond with that meagre amount when I could theoretically run with more. My personal investments with some parties in this forums amount to more than that, for example, and my permanent departure would cost me more.

Well, this would be my last explanation/attempt to defend myself anyway. It is my fault for disappearing without leaving a message for almost 3 months and I'm not going to dodge that.
*John shuts down computer and goes back to sleep*

[Kyraishi]

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims?

LoL

What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price!

It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss...

there is coincidence with the new coinroll.it thread appearing too !

[saif92]

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaude you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

Upstanding for vanish for 3 months with other's people money and then return without any meaningful evidence to support it claims?

LoL

What a coincidence this return soon after the 2014 lowest price!

It looks like someone played with other's people money and now found a chance to recoup the loss...

there is coincidence with the new coinroll.it thread appearing too !

But as John saying any one can check addresses all the time coins was in and never touch during this time then why these stopped things

[EFS]

Welcome back John. I'm glad you're okay.

[Dabs]

In defense of John K, I told you guys all, he is not the type of person to just disappear with anyone else's coins (much less his own invested in others), unless something bad happened to him in real life / offline.

It is completely understandable that he would not be using anyone else to escrow what he is escrowing (and then doubling the fee in the process.)

There are a few of us on this forum (at least two escrow list threads I am aware of being maintained.)

[Bicknellski]

I can tell you all the difference between real life and Bitcoinland. In real life a powerful entity like a government presides over insurance and business with rules and has the might to enforce those rules. In Bitcoinland libertarian fantasy elves believe they can give millions of dollars to complete strangers and have them be honest without any enforcement might or insurance.

Does Neo & Bee ring any bells for anyone? Lots of people knew who good ol Danny was. How about Trendon Shavers? There's a picture with some of the key players in Bitcoinland sitting around a table in Vegas talking with Trendon in person long before he fucked everyone. Now about Nefario? He was a mod here. GLBSE ring any bells?

In Bitcoinland when people get fucked over the libertarian fantasy elves scurry into the forest while real life law enforcement is contacted to solve the issue. The problem is that law enforcement has a problem finding jurisdiction that covers forest elves.

When someone with a real conscience like John the Dong (sorry John I like your old name better lol) decides to be upstanding even when faced with a personal crisis you people still want to bitch. I applaud you John for being the upstanding person Bitcoin needs more of in-mass. Maybe you can help lead the other elves out of the forest and into the light.

+1 hope he recovers fully and comes back strong. Agree the name was ok... should have kept it. I liked the double entendre that he didn't get.