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Title: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 01:40:13 AM Due to all my 174 posts being deleted from Black Arrow's main thread by their Grand Poobah, considering me nothing but a troll, I've opted to heed the advice of one of their fanbois and start this thread, whereupon some of said deleted posts may make their way here if they're not well-suited for my Black Arrow scammer thread.
What would truly break my heart is if I later learn that BlackArrow Matt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=168704) proves to be M.N.W. (obfuscated), for I like the guy. This fucked-up thought somehow entered my head when I typed that last period in the first paragraph above. Perhaps, Dallas5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206950) is correct in his assessment, seeing he's been here long enough to know me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg4851331#msg4851331 Thanks! That piece of text should have just been emailed to everyone, no way I'm reading through 100 pages of this thread, including that cage guy conspiracy crap. Anyway that's great to hear! Looking forward to finally mining some bitcoins at a decent hashrate. Then again, perhaps not! (referencing the quoted text, and NOT my fucked-up thought) Feel free to chime in and divulge anything considered Black Arrow, including posting your posts that were also deleted from Black Arrow's holier-than-thou thread, for this is a non self-moderated thread. ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 01:40:44 AM List of names/entities associated with Black Arrow:
Fanbois (or sockpuppets):
Entities:
This list will be updated daily unless I'm moving my laptop 40 miles down the road from Missouri to Denver, whereupon it remain stagnant for 72 hours or a week, depending on Comcast. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 01:43:48 AM reserved for next post i'm about to pen, opting to reserve the second post for the last of actor at Black Arrow
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: jimmothy on February 11, 2014, 01:50:09 AM Is this another thread to create FUD since nobody took your scam accusations thread seriously?
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 02:01:04 AM Is this another thread to create FUD since nobody took your scam accusations thread seriously? Fanboi #1 asks why I started this thread, even though it was suggested to me to do such by one of his fanboi butt-buddies, prior to having my discovery posts being deleted over yonder. Also note, this fanboi has me on ignore, yet opts to come here claiming that I'm the one spreading FUD. Go figure! Honestly, I think he's jealous because I'm... ~TMIBTCITW Quote Name: jimmothy Posts: 743 Activity: 196 Position: Full Member Date Registered: July 13, 2013, 09:26:54 AM Last Active: Today at 07:57:46 PM Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Unacceptable on February 11, 2014, 02:09:03 AM Is this another thread to create FUD since nobody took your scam accusations thread seriously? As I said in the other thread.....you would make a FANTASTIC BFL customer,PLEASE go order a Monarch or two ::) Please continue Phinn ;D Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 02:12:10 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down.
Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: jimmothy on February 11, 2014, 02:23:47 AM Is this another thread to create FUD since nobody took your scam accusations thread seriously? As I said in the other thread.....you would make a FANTASTIC BFL customer,PLEASE go order a Monarch or two ::) Please continue Phinn ;D I would make a fantastic preorder customer because I read/understand the rules before agreeing to them. Seriously what kind of idiot gives their irreversible cash to a company for a product that has not been finished and expects a refund when their "investment" doesn't go according to their calculations. I was a former BFL customer and while dissatisfied with the delays I still made a profit in USD without any butthurt. Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 02:30:31 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst. For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date. At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi. ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: bobsag3 on February 11, 2014, 03:01:32 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst. For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date. At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi. ~TMIBTCITW Just chiming in- I have moved datacenters once. From Missouri to CO. My ebay profile still lists texas- as thats where I grew up and opened the account from, and evidently never got around to changing it. Still have a old texas DL around here somewhere. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 03:04:41 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst. For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date. At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi. ~TMIBTCITW Where is there evidence to support this? Up and up? Define where they have not been up and up and how that is somehow intentional and further how that caused a loss for the customers? Again Bobsag3 (Matt) answered your questions. He told you straight up when asked why he moved datacenters. How does his datacenter affect Black Arrow shipping? At this point there is nothing more than lack of communication and I don't see where anyone is trying to purposefully hide facts from those who pre-ordered Black Arrow products. Your time would be BEST spent on a company that has lied outright to the community. PG you can go FUCK yourself and your opinion about whether I am a fanboi for BLACK ARROW. I don't care about your opinion about my love or hate of Black Arrow products and the people associated with them. I am not a fan of people who basically side step their own TRUTH. You are such a person. That is what is circumspect in my mind about you and this new found focus on Black Arrow. Let me now play the J'ACCUSE GAME with you. Why are you not posting about BFL anymore? Be HONEST. Don't side step and dance about come out and tell us why? Why should anyone trust someone that doesn't come straight out with it? Can I speculate that you are now on Black Arrow and others as being paid off by BFL to do so? I reserve the right to call you a shill of BFL since you fail to comment about them further and they continue to rip off the community. Still waiting on the TX ID for all your donations as well. Still not posted with links to forums where you have indicated donations. See it is pretty easy to make threads that call people into question. I am pretty sure you put donations in and are an upstanding member of the community. But you are seriously misguided in this respect with Black Arrow or are you just trolling to get another free meal and a miner shipped? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 03:19:47 AM Quote You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing. :-* You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned. Starting with... We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on. FACT! We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit: FACT! Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense. FACT! Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied up due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K., both residing in Hawaii, who, by the way, the latter is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers. FACT! ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: bobsag3 on February 11, 2014, 03:25:14 AM Quote You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing. :-* You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned. Starting with... We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on. FACT! We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit: FACT! Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense. FACT! Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers. FACT! ~TMIBTCITW Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 03:36:36 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst. For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date. At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi. ~TMIBTCITW Just chiming in- I have moved datacenters once. From Missouri to CO. My ebay profile still lists texas- as thats where I grew up and opened the account from, and evidently never got around to changing it. Still have a old texas DL around here somewhere. I'm about to punch holes in that claim unless, due to the San Madrid fault, Missouri moved 40 miles closer to Colorado, then I'll stand corrected. Come to think of it, I hope it's true, for note the state separating the two: http://endoftheamericandream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/New-Madrid-Fault-Earthquake-Zone.jpg Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 03:56:42 AM Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down. Black Arrow is responsive. Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping. Black Arrow is not perfect. I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are. The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst. For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date. At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi. ~TMIBTCITW Where is there evidence to support this? Up and up? Define where they have not been up and up and how that is somehow intentional and further how that caused a loss for the customers? Again Bobsag3 (Matt) answered your questions. He told you straight up when asked why he moved datacenters. How does his datacenter affect Black Arrow shipping? At this point there is nothing more than lack of communication and I don't see where anyone is trying to purposefully hide facts from those who pre-ordered Black Arrow products. Your time would be BEST spent on a company that has lied outright to the community. PG you can go FUCK yourself and your opinion about whether I am a fanboi for BLACK ARROW. I don't care about your opinion about my love or hate of Black Arrow products and the people associated with them. I am not a fan of people who basically side step their own TRUTH. You are such a person. That is what is circumspect in my mind about you and this new found focus on Black Arrow. Let me now play the J'ACCUSE GAME with you. Why are you not posting about BFL anymore? Be HONEST. Don't side step and dance about come out and tell us why? Why should anyone trust someone that doesn't come straight out with it? Can I speculate that you are now on Black Arrow and others as being paid off by BFL to do so? I reserve the right to call you a shill of BFL since you fail to comment about them further and they continue to rip off the community. Still waiting on the TX ID for all your donations as well. Still not posted with links to forums where you have indicated donations. See it is pretty easy to make threads that call people into question. I am pretty sure you put donations in and are an upstanding member of the community. But you are seriously misguided in this respect with Black Arrow or are you just trolling to get another free meal and a miner shipped? After you read the following, please keep in mind that I like my balls gently caressed, and my asshole teased with either index finger, while my dick's in your purdy mouth. I believe that it is the Tx ID, but Thomas would have to confirm. 48 hours? Are we in some sort of reality distortion field? It was way more than 48 hours, otherwise my payout would not be cut by 70% between two payments. I understand this is a risky business and people may get sick of whatever job they are doing, but saying these completely off the wall numbers is a bit disheartening. I do not ask for any compensation, but please don't let anyone say stupid shit like that. We were all here and this thread is a witness. I wish DZ MC a speedy recovery and successful future GBs since I am vested in them. Thanks.Here's some additional info from a PM from someone asking if there would be additional compensation for under performance on R15/16 and the move cross country: "bobsag3 says they were only down for 48 hours even while doing the move through Winter storm Hercules. The correct amount of downtime was closer to 72 Machines not working is not a hosting issue this is in reference to workers 2, 3 and 4 going down sporadically after January 2nd-3rd until a few days ago Issues with the hardware? That is because you moved it! It was hashing perfectly prior to the move, a solid 20btc in the previous 2 weeks. Yes difficulty went up, but we should have still seen at least 14 BTC for the period. The real reason is that the move was botched, plain and simple. It was poorly planned, poorly executed with no contingency or backup plan, plain and simple. You provided little to no communication and what communication you did provide was merely blaming someone else for your lack of planning and telling us to quit asking! You blamed everyone else and took NO responsibility. That doesn't fly in my book. Who moves hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment to a new facility that doesn't yet have power or an internet connection? Who orders parts to arrive on the very day that they are needed, such that when FedEx has a delay, THEY become the problem rather than taking responsibility for not ordering them sooner! This is all coming from "access to 5 world class IT experts who have built the largest public Bitcoin Miners Cooperative in the English Speaking world" and a "world class hosting facility". It is frankly insulting. Take a look at the pics of your "world class hosting facility" facility just "2 weeks" ago. It doesn't even look remotely ready for a move. Check out the extension cords running to the miners near the door, are those our KNC's??? The reality is that the hardware was most likely damaged by running on dirty generator power and it probably damaged most of it, no wonder you are having issues with the majority of it. But yet you blame KNC. Do they know the conditions it was ran in? I have 20% of this group buy and the bottom line is your haphazard approach to this move has cost me dearly, to the tune of approx $1500. This 40 mile move should have had less than 24 hours of downtime, and could have been done in 2-3 hours. I myself have done several moves in my career with millions of dollars of equipment much more sensitive, and kept downtime to less than a day. It can be done if you prepare and plan for it. You didn't plan nor prepare and it cost us all, and cost us dearly. It is a slap in the face to receive a $150 credit on hosting for your botched move. My 20% of that is $30. That is what I would have made with about 4 hours of hashing at the old facility. Lets see, down for 7 days and I get $30 and you call that fair? Please take responsibility for what really happened. It is the very least you can do. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg4528462#msg4528462 https://i.imgur.com/PCCXxic.jpg Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 04:41:26 AM Quote Taken literally, the title implies that a great fuss ("much ado") is made of something which is insignificant ("nothing"), such as the unfounded claims of Hero's infidelity and the unfounded claims that Benedick and Beatrice are in love with one another. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Much_Ado_Quarto.JPG/392px-Much_Ado_Quarto.JPG Or if you prefer. http://vuongtrinhan.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/don-quixote-windmill.png So no REASON for yet for your taking up this distraction versus actually saving people from BFL. Sad so much for TRUTH. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 04:50:05 AM All I know was that my Jallys were 6 months late. To me, whatever they claim, re-claim, counter-claim, fabricate and re-adjust has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. By the time they ship, 600 Mh/s won't get you 0.05 BTC per day, if you're lucky. You're better off buying whatever hardware you can get your hands on now for $2k, than waiting 3-6 months (if you're lucky) for a Monarch. If you've pre-ordered, you screwed yourself, and have nobody else to blame. Meanwhile millions are being absconded from this community by BFL. Why don't you focus on the real and immediate threats caused by BFL? Still no answer. Just a diatribe and more avoidance. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM Quote You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing. :-* You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned. Starting with... We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on. FACT! We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit: FACT! Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense. FACT! Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers. FACT! ~TMIBTCITW Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO. I understand now! Missouri doesn't have any buildings big enough to house your investomer's miners, in spite of Missouri having cheaper electricity cost than Colorado, something you used as a selling point to attract investomers. BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure. Building was purchased today! All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man <snip> Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks. BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away. Major Update! We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute. Major Update! We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute. Building acquired :) I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give concrete delivery. I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet. That'd be my recommendation Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures. I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup :). And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex. Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility: <snip> This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts. Shenzhen, China 11/26/2013 8:05 P.M. Departure Scan Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info? When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California. I will be shipping out from Central MO. Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately. I got ya covered :PBut yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347732.msg3723600#msg3723600 Quote bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri! Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum! And still upgrading his second facility: <snip> No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out. On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri: This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU. You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining. Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled. The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running. The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now. On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once. <snip> I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems. I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them. Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him? We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there :). ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012 We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come! BUILDING #3: Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying. This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time? ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 05:22:55 AM Care to respond to WHY you are not posting in BFL threads considering they are doing a lot more DAMAGE to the Bitcoin economy than Black Arrow at this point?
How does Matt's warehouse / hosting have anything to do with Black Arrow shipping units? Canard much? Would you not just get on teamspeak, gtalk or some other medium and get the answers and then report back here? I don't see anything here that is menacing for a Black Arrow customers. Again really what is the point? Other than to muckrake and sensationalize this well out of proportion. I suggest you would get a LOT more answers if you just started a voice chat and had an open dialogue with Matt. At this point you are really just trying to be the center of attention and not really resolving anything for anyone. Take the ego down an notch or a 100 notches get the answers you need from him directly and POST it here. I can't watch this obvious ego centered attack on Matt or others without doing the simple thing sitting down with the people and getting answers you need. Unless you are doing this for other reasons. How is Matt's record on shipping units and hosting? Is that not more RELEVANT a measure? I do believe there should be 100's of customers at this point that can attest to his trustworthiness. Again really there is evidence to support Matt as a person that has been trusted, has delivered so why exactly are we concerned with warehouse space? Is he not providing a service? Are those services being denied customers? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 05:39:06 AM Care to respond to WHY you are not posting in BFL threads considering they are doing a lot more DAMAGE to the Bitcoin economy than Black Arrow at this point? How does Matt's warehouse / hosting have anything to do with Black Arrow shipping units? Canard much? Would you not just get on teamspeak, gtalk or some other medium and get the answers and then report back here? I don't see anything here that is menacing for a Black Arrow customers. Again really what is the point? Other than to muckrake and sensationalize this well out of proportion. I suggest you would get a LOT more answers if you just started a voice chat and had an open dialogue with Matt. At this point you are really just trying to be the center of attention and not really resolving anything for anyone. Take the ego down an notch or a 100 notches get the answers you need from him directly and POST it here. I can't watch this obvious ego centered attack on Matt or others without doing the simple thing sitting down with the people and getting answers you need. Unless you are doing this for other reasons. How is Matt's record on shipping units and hosting? Is that not more RELEVANT a measure? I do believe there should be 100's of customers at this point that can attest to his trustworthiness. Again really there is evidence to support Matt as a person that has been trusted, has delivered so why exactly are we concerned with warehouse space? Is he not providing a service? Are those services being denied customers? I'll address this later, for I'm still working on this Denver bullshit, mkay? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 06:08:17 AM All I know was that my Jallys were 6 months late. To me, whatever they claim, re-claim, counter-claim, fabricate and re-adjust has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. By the time they ship, 600 Mh/s won't get you 0.05 BTC per day, if you're lucky. You're better off buying whatever hardware you can get your hands on now for $2k, than waiting 3-6 months (if you're lucky) for a Monarch. If you've pre-ordered, you screwed yourself, and have nobody else to blame. Meanwhile millions are being absconded from this community by BFL. Why don't you focus on the real and immediate threats caused by BFL? Still no answer. Just a diatribe and more avoidance. And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 07:00:40 AM Re: What Are Your Electricity Cost for Mining Bitcoins?
.061/kwhr http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_06_b Quote Missouri: 6.20 Colorado: 7.26 During this timeframe, Matt Carson had already moved from Building #1 to Building #2, 90 miles away from one another. From the information presented above (visit linked site), which one of the two states depicted do you believe was Matt's second facility located in? Hint: The name of the state consist of 8 letters. This question may or may not be on some future pop quiz. for the right price I would rent some script hash power from you :) ( give me a pm if your interested ) The problem is I don't think there is any way to make profits currently at 0.24 USD/KWh (corrected price). That is why is consider selling the hardware. I will follow up here, watch this topic. Thanks for your interest :) I pay .061 if im above 25kw usage (getting close!) Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 07:28:36 AM Which is worse?
BFL or Black Arrow? Josh Z. or Matt C.? Seriously. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on February 11, 2014, 07:29:57 AM All I know was that my Jallys were 6 months late. To me, whatever they claim, re-claim, counter-claim, fabricate and re-adjust has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. By the time they ship, 600 Mh/s won't get you 0.05 BTC per day, if you're lucky. You're better off buying whatever hardware you can get your hands on now for $2k, than waiting 3-6 months (if you're lucky) for a Monarch. If you've pre-ordered, you screwed yourself, and have nobody else to blame. Meanwhile millions are being absconded from this community by BFL. Why don't you focus on the real and immediate threats caused by BFL? Still no answer. Just a diatribe and more avoidance. And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! LOL... he didn't PAY his bet. He is doing WEEKLY to shut you up. Nice. Oh my what a joke. Paid off silence. That just puts a nail in your credibility coffin right there buddy. No wonder we haven't had the DETAILS. Does anyone else think that stinks to high heaven? Being paid weekly to keep your mouth shut more like. Done dealing with this thread your payment arrangements with Josh speak volumes on what is really going on. That is an ignore till you stop taking a dive for coins. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 07:46:19 AM All I know was that my Jallys were 6 months late. To me, whatever they claim, re-claim, counter-claim, fabricate and re-adjust has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. By the time they ship, 600 Mh/s won't get you 0.05 BTC per day, if you're lucky. You're better off buying whatever hardware you can get your hands on now for $2k, than waiting 3-6 months (if you're lucky) for a Monarch. If you've pre-ordered, you screwed yourself, and have nobody else to blame. Meanwhile millions are being absconded from this community by BFL. Why don't you focus on the real and immediate threats caused by BFL? Still no answer. Just a diatribe and more avoidance. And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! LOL... he didn't PAY his bet. He is doing WEEKLY to shut you up. Nice. Oh my what a joke. Paid off silence. That just puts a nail in your credibility coffin right there buddy. No wonder we haven't had the DETAILS. Does anyone else think that stinks to high heaven? Being paid weekly to keep your mouth shut more like. Done dealing with this thread your payment arrangements with Josh speak volumes on what is really going on. That is an ignore till you stop taking a dive for coins. BTW, it's almost paid off, and Josh was kind enough to pay interest on the payback. I have a great idea! Why don't you start a thread consisting of calling me out on this? Make it self-moderated so that if I happen to stop by spewing vile, you can delete my posts. Deal? If not, I will, for the very first time in my going on three years on this forum, exercise the notify mod option. I can even make it easy for you so that you don't have to put much thought into said action. Entitle the thread: Bruno Kucinsaks aka Phinnaeus Gage aka TMIBITW is a Liar. For the OP, simply copy and paste this post. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have shit still to pen about Matt Carson before moving onto the other resellers and Black Arrow proper, et al. ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 08:09:36 AM Certainly won't be running at home, don't even think the service I have there would run this many cards ;D Electricity is cheap, no longer free but .08/kwh seems decent enough though. I've got cooling under control as well, but that's something I'd like to keep secret ;) It seems I've finally found a distributor that doesn't care about resale licenses and all the BS, don't know how many phone calls I've made today... .041 here :P hey what area are you from? those electricity rates are amazing. Until Matt Carson moved to Denver, a not so great place for his hosting. Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what Matt pays per KWH, but I'm pretty sure his investomers do. Why? I don't know! Maybe this? I should be able to honor any express shipping, just now it should be a great deal faster. [I hate UPS ground, never ever ever ever again] If barntech and customers would Like, I can test all board briefly before re-packing, but as far as broken board to to shipping, I will assist in anyway Barn would like me too. I in fact have a hosting option- I think I will be hosting ~30 boards for barn. PM me for a quote, but if you paid for shipping and want hosting, Im sure something can be worked out. What are you going to charge for hosting? %revenue or fixed costs per kwh per board etc? How would end users control the mining pools they attach to or will these devices connect to an internal system for revenue tracking? I'm moderately interested in this option especially for the first couple/few months where firmware may be getting more frequent updates and faulty devices are more commonly detected, I assume you would have a maintenance agreement in place with Barntech for this part? Thanks for the info in advance! Hosting is based on a flat $/ month, based mostly on KWH usage. Im not sure how end users would control them.. still working on both hardware and software solutions right now. The interm is I can give out teamviewer access to the requested machine. As for broken/faulty units, that will be up to Barn's discretion, Im sure he will answer when he wakes up. Anything software or hardware done to the units hosted has to have the Owner's explicit instruction to do so, for liability reasons. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 09:31:10 AM As promised, if the following post was deleted in Black Arrow's main thread, I said I would re-post here, so here it is.
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote I'm posting the following as a courtesy for a fellow Bitcoiner, sent to me via PM. If by happenstance it gets deleted, I will re-post it in my scammer tread. I will not post it there unless it is deleted from here. Quote Their T&C are in violation of hk law. Though funnily they try to claim that they aren't subject to hk law because their head office is in China but on their website's T&C it states that all disputes will be settled in hk court and under hk law. What a bunch of dicks. Maybe this will provide some help for people they are refusing to refund. According to The Sales of Goods Ordinance CAP 26 s12 of Hong Kong Law you are bound by the agree time constraints stipulated in the contract, failure to fulfill this agreement will be considered breach of the contract. Furthermore, Section 3(1) of the Control of Exemption Clauses Ordinance Cap. 71 states that unreasonable exemption clauses in a contract such as 11.7 and 11.3 of Black Arrow's Terms and Agreement are void and have no effect if: 1. The contract was formed by one party with the consumer having none or relatively no bargaining power in the constraints of the contract 2. There is no previous history of the two parties 3. The clause impacts on or affects other superseding Hong Kong Laws such as The Sales of Goods Ordinance of Hong Kong which protects consumers from the unfair trade practices. Then finish off your letter, with: Therefore I would like you to refund my order#XXXX immediately without further delay. If I do not receive my refund within 7 days I will be contacting the Consumer Council to lodge a formal complaint against Black Arrow Limited (Company Registration. 1520309). I also reserve the right to take any legal action necessary both in the Smalls Claims Court located in Hong Kong or overseas at my convenience and discretion. It is actually really easy to sue people in HK. You don't have to be a HK citizen but you do need to hire someone to represent you in Small Claims Courts (it can't be a lawyer so it is actually cheap to do). Small Claims Court If what you are claiming against a business is less than $50,000 HKD then you are eligible to sue them in Small Claims Court. Why is small claims court good? -lawyers are not allowed in small claims court -The person you are suing cannot counter sue you in small claims court. -You do not have to be a Hong Kong Resident to file a motion with the small claims court -If black arrow fail to show then you will win the claim by default -only transport costs can be claimed in small claims court. -no they can't hire someone from Jamaica and claim the flight as a cost (a Philippine company tried this with my fd and it got thrown out of small claims court) -Once you win, you are given a legal document (Writ of Fieri Facias) saying BA owe you this much in HKD$ -Then you can hire a HK government bailiff to come and collect anything from BA office that is in the value of the amount they owe you Imagine turning up to Black Arrow office in Wan Chai and walking off with a bunch of their PCs and some bitcoin wallets while being protected by the bailiffs and the HK police. How to file a claim for your money back in HK Small Claims Court: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/pphlt/html/sc.htm Online Forms: http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/forms/sc.htm Or maybe just make a formal complaint to this organisation: HK Consumer Complaints Council They recommend you file a complaint against the a local company if as a consumer you come across unfair trade practices, e.g . -goods or services not correspond to description; -delay in delivery; -dissatisfaction to service, http://www.consumer.org.hk/website/ws_en/complaints_and_advices/how_to_complain/howtocomplain.html Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 10:06:52 AM http://www.tradezz.com/corp_1136173_CardReaderFactory.htm
Quote Company Information Business Type : Manufacturer Year Established : 2008 Legal Representative : Alex Sovu No. of Total Staff : 5 - 10 People Products/Services : MSRv007 OEM, MSRv007 OEM demo Main Markets : North America Eastern Europe Western Europe Business Card Company Address : Broad Street Postal Code : RG1 Company Phone : 44-118-9255358 Company Fax : 44 Contact Person : Mr. Alex Berk Contact Person : 44-118-9255358 Contact Person : http://www.cardreaderfactory.com http://www.china-wholesale-cell-phone.com/c-cardreaderfactory-226206.html Quote CardReaderFactory is producing the best and smallest credit card readers in the world. Our magnetic stripe readers are the most reliable, user friendly, full featured and customisable that exists! Basic Information Company Name:CardReaderFactory Business Type:Manufacturer Product/Service(We Sell):MSRv007 OEM, MSRv007 OEM demo Address:Broad Street Brands:CardReaderFactory, MSRv007 Number of Employees:5 - 10 People Company Website URL: http://www.cardreaderfactory.com Ownership & Capital Year Established:2008 Registered Capital:Below US$100 Thousand Ownership Type:Individual (Sole proprietorship) Legal Representative/Business Owner: Alex Sovu Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: dogie on February 11, 2014, 10:58:22 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. I'm so tired of you trying to shit on every company ever. Look at the graph of hash rates, someone is delivering. Not everyone can be a scam. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 11:54:41 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. I'm so tired of you trying to shit on every company ever. Look at the graph of hash rates, someone is delivering. Not everyone can be a scam. If you're so tired, then why don't you put me on ignore. Surely, my voice isn't loud enough to influence anybody, is it? Meanwhile, enjoy the following pic taken at Matt Carson's datacenter. Bonus points awarded if you can spot IT and guess if IT was the first thing carefully packed when he moved(?) to Denver, CO: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/12455903795_9fbb60a237_c.jpg Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: dogie on February 11, 2014, 11:58:55 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 11, 2014, 08:38:33 PM From the desk of I Will Shit in Your Face and Make You Like It, I present proof that Matt Carson moved his datacenter from Building #2 back to Building #1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459340.msg5071442#msg5071442) via only the images below, for if you fucks can't clearly see that Matty Boy has lied not only on how many times he moved the datacenter, but also lied as to where your precious are being hosted, then you deserve to lose your precious bitcoins. Chances are, though, that I may help connect the dots if given a blowjob--or kindly ask, albeit I'd prefer the former.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3739/12333139944_b451f56ce4.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7420/12331657283_6acc3c5cba_o.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5476/12464782305_278bb101f7.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7307/12464650695_5922e9ff5d.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3812/11646258586_157e76cce9.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/12455903795_9fbb60a237.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/12464938215_807e43b4b8_z.jpg Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: sticky on February 12, 2014, 04:04:10 AM Gage,
In all seriousness, why are you so invested in trying to reveal everyone as a scammer? If you were a customer of Minersource or Black Arrow, I would understand spending the time and effort to dig so deep and grasp at straws, but I can't figure out why you care so much? Honestly, whats your stake in this? All this hate and FUD might make sense if you had an actual interest in these companies, but it's starting to look like you are indeed working for someone with motive to bring these guys down. I don't know, maybe there is a legit reason behind it, but I'm just not seeing it. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 06:05:04 AM Gage, In all seriousness, why are you so invested in trying to reveal everyone as a scammer? If you were a customer of Minersource or Black Arrow, I would understand spending the time and effort to dig so deep and grasp at straws, but I can't figure out why you care so much? Honestly, whats your stake in this? All this hate and FUD might make sense if you had an actual interest in these companies, but it's starting to look like you are indeed working for someone with motive to bring these guys down. I don't know, maybe there is a legit reason behind it, but I'm just not seeing it. What's sad about your post is that you truly believe what you wrote. With your logic, every single person that's not a customer of some Bitcoin related entity that's not on the up-and-up shouldn't bother themselves with helping in the investigation to get to the bottom of things, is that correct? The legit reason, and there is no other motherfuckin' reason, is that I CARE!!! Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Dear Black Arrow, I hope that you find it in your heart o' hearts to forgive me, for I promise to play nice from now on. That said, would you be so kind as to sell me your vetting program? Regards, Bruno Kucinskas http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:o9-hDFe3Bi8J:www.hackforums.net/archive/index.php/thread-1210336.html+&cd=24&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Quote david105396 04-13-2011, 08:43 AM Dear readers, First i want to say sorry for that i haven't said anything on this forum. I usually keep a low profile at first when i join a forum so sorry for that. Anyway of to the point. Is there anybody that can bring down this site(http://www.maerlant-lyceum.nl). This is my school site and if somebody can bring it down for maybe 1 or 2 hours it would be awesome beacause then i would miss some tests tomorrow. Is someone could do this in about 3 hours time it would be great. But only do it if you want to help me and if you think you can't get in trouble. If it is to dangerous that you get cought please don't try. Already thanks and i will be more active on the forum now that i know people better here. Quote david105396 04-13-2011, 09:02 AM Lancappe sorry as i said at the moment i cannot pay people for stuff. i do really apreciate you for trying it. i really am sorry but thanks anyway. could you tell me how you did it though if you don't mind? The way I read it, theymos is going to be getting a phone call requesting some records, don't you think? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: goozman96 on February 12, 2014, 06:46:24 AM Any references to Alex Sovu have been removed from the thread and even David's post was edited to only mention Matt and not Alex.
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 06:59:58 AM Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations.
BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure. Building was purchased today! All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man <snip> Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks. BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away. Major Update! We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute. Major Update! We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute. Building acquired :) I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give concrete delivery. I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet. That'd be my recommendation Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures. I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup :). And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex. Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility: <snip> This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts. Shenzhen, China 11/26/2013 8:05 P.M. Departure Scan Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info? When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California. I will be shipping out from Central MO. Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately. I got ya covered :PBut yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347732.msg3723600#msg3723600 Quote bobsag3: Vetted Co-op member. World's lowest hosting fees for vetted miner hosting at a professional colocation hosting facility in Missouri! Official Black Arrow US Reseller and US Distributor for Drillbit Systems. New Pres. of our Mining Operations arm of our LLC. Providing R19 and R19B miners to the GB Forum! And still upgrading his second facility: <snip> No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out. On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri: This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU. You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining. Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled. The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running. The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now. On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once. <snip> I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems. I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them. Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him? We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there :). ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288012 We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come! BUILDING #3: Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying. This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time? ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 07:02:33 AM http://www.sitelerhakkinda.org/mukarrer/whois/988545
Quote Sahibi Alex Sovu 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom Nerden Alınmış: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Alan Adı: CARDREADERFACTORY.COM Oluşturulma Tarihi: 05-May-08 Bitiş Tarihi: 05-May-11 Güncellenme Tarihi: 10-Apr-09 Alan Adı Yöneticisi Bilgileri Sovu, Alex 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom 7727735427 Faks -- Teknik İletişim Bilgileri Sovu, Alex 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom 7727735427 Faks -- Alan Adı Sunucuları NS1.PIPEDNS.COM NS2.PIPEDNS.COM NS3.PIPEDNS.COM http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=cardreaderfactory.com&prog_id=GoDaddy Quote Domain Name: CARDREADERFACTORY.COM Registry Domain ID: 1465776527_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2013-01-18 00:12:03 Creation Date: 2008-05-05 20:34:33 Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-05-05 20:34:33 Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505 Domain Status: ok Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Merlion Holdings Registrant Organization: Merlion Holdings Limited Registrant Street: PO Box 964 Registrant City: Road Town Registrant State/Province: Tortola Registrant Postal Code: 1110 Registrant Country: Virgin Islands (British) Registrant Phone: +852.81990849 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: whois@cardreaderfactory.com Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Merlion Holdings Admin Organization: Merlion Holdings Limited Admin Street: PO Box 964 Admin City: Road Town Admin State/Province: Tortola Admin Postal Code: 1110 Admin Country: Virgin Islands (British) Admin Phone: +852.81990849 Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 07:08:31 AM Any references to Alex Sovu have been removed from the thread and even David's post was edited to only mention Matt and not Alex. You can have Matt confirm who I am. Or look at the ecointalk forum if you would like to check. You can have Alex or Matt confirm who I am. Or look at the ecointalk forum if you would like to check. In the image below, the edit time is in CST, my time zone here in Sandwich, IL. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7442/12474563864_f2a3fcdcdf_o.jpg Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 07:26:45 AM Amazingly, nary a person's concerned that Matt Carson blatantly lied about the location of his datacenter in Rolla, MO,... never moving it from facility #1 to facility #2, 90 miles away, as he so claimed, prior to now having it located in Colorado, supposedly.
Do I need to explain the images, or are you guys who's on Matt's Skype list cool with everything after tokin' on his hookah? (revisit pic if you missed it) Building #1: Purchased, but turned out to be a month-to-month lease: September 23, 2013 -- November 16, 2013 Building #2: November 16, 2013 -- December 30, 2013 NOTE: Images prove that #1 & #2 are the same exact building. Building #3: December 30 -- To Present Also, Matt Carson went into great deal of how he retrofitted the first facility, then same with the second facility, mainly pertaining to upgrading the electrical capacities of both. I wish I was able to lease out buildings on a month-to-month basis and have my tenants upgrade my buildings on their dime. If only I could find such a mark who just so happens to have a forum following who have more money than brain cells, thanks to being vetted by an anonymous escrow guy who operates a co-op outta Hawaii, of which was vetted by an anonymous AWOL escrow guy, also of Hawaii. I would be rich beyond my imagination. <snip> This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts. Now, he's in an even bigger warehouse in Denver, CO. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 08:27:30 AM To recap, bitcoiner investomers, having more money than brain cells, have entrusted a pseudo-vetted, hookah tokin', Black Arrow reseller Bitcoiner, who's been warned before about posting certain images on the internet, but didn't heed the advice, opting to show the world his hookah and Skype contacts, has now been shown that he, Matt Carson, a.k.a. Bobsag3, lied about moving his datacenter, yet, the guy who's called out all this to them, and future investomers, is labeled a fruitcake, and probably dons a pink tutu. <breathe>
The only saving grace is that there's probably no federal agency in the world looking at some hookah tokin' guy in Denver hosting bitcoin miners sourced from a Romanian once arrested and now sells card skimmers based in the UK using various alias possibly gleaned from stolen credit cards who vets then hires known hackers. <breathe, again> Not saying that that's a bad thing, nor not saying that that wouldn't happen in the future. Then again, it ain't my precious bitcoiners at stake based on renderings of vaporware. http://media.giphy.com/media/12h9ewRtIP3ohG/giphy.gif Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Justin00 on February 12, 2014, 09:20:29 AM sweeeeeet jesus
those pictures are a data centre ? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2014, 10:39:08 AM sweeeeeet jesus those pictures are a data centre ? Buddy, it's worst then you think. In fact, it's worst that I originally thought. And to think I did all this shit for free, conducting this discovery because I was probably trolled to help a couple fellow bitcoiners out, all the while literally having it stuck up my ass by fellow bitcoiners, some of which I've donated bitcoins to, and possibly tarnished my reputation. Who the hell would ever vet me now? Speaking of vetting, unfortunately the super-duper Hawaiian co-op will probably be the next entity to cease operations due to this major, major clusterfuck. There is no way in hell that I, nor any fellow bitcoiners worth their salt would have given Matt Carson light of day. Same true for that clown down in Tampa, among a handful of others vetted by them, all of which will be exposed in due time. Bottom line, there's not a single person that's associated with Black Arrow that I trust, and don't give a rat's ass if none of them, along with their fanbois, think that I'm the one that's a piece of shit. Suffice to say, anybody now requesting any refunds from Matt Carson, will NOT ever see a satoshi of their precious bitcoins. But don't worry, you won't ever see a Black Arrow product either. And you can take that to the bank. ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: bitmarket.io on February 12, 2014, 07:51:18 PM I believe Phinn as he has done significant investigating and picked up on the pattern of bullshit.
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Justin00 on February 12, 2014, 08:41:58 PM tbh...why do you bother investigating?
you've been here longer than me i think... tards gonna tard.. can't stop that :( someone could sell a piece of crap with a usb cable hanging out of it if the price is cheap enough... I suspect as long as that piece of crap included free shipping everyone would jump on said piece of crap. Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. sweeeeeet jesus those pictures are a data centre ? Buddy, it's worst then you think. In fact, it's worst that I originally thought. And to think I did all this shit for free, conducting this discovery because I was probably trolled to help a couple fellow bitcoiners out, all the while literally having it stuck up my ass by fellow bitcoiners, some of which I've donated bitcoins to, and possibly tarnished my reputation. Who the hell would ever vet me now? Speaking of vetting, unfortunately the super-duper Hawaiian co-op will probably be the next entity to cease operations due to this major, major clusterfuck. There is no way in hell that I, nor any fellow bitcoiners worth their salt would have given Matt Carson light of day. Same true for that clown down in Tampa, among a handful of others vetted by them, all of which will be exposed in due time. Bottom line, there's not a single person that's associated with Black Arrow that I trust, and don't give a rat's ass if none of them, along with their fanbois, think that I'm the one that's a piece of shit. Suffice to say, anybody now requesting any refunds from Matt Carson, will NOT ever see a satoshi of their precious bitcoins. But don't worry, you won't ever see a Black Arrow product either. And you can take that to the bank. ~Bruno Kucinskas Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Rawted on February 12, 2014, 10:23:20 PM This thread delivers. +1000 internets for Phinn's sleuth skills.
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Kouye on February 13, 2014, 12:24:31 AM Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. You're all wrong, there. We actually need more people like Phin - even though I was very disappointed and wanted to spank his butt after this JK-Dinner-Feast. He might be wrong, he might be harmful to some legit businesses. But he just states publicly known facts. Which should be harmless, right? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Vexatious on February 13, 2014, 01:07:49 AM This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second.
When I pre-ordered an X-1 in December I had plenty of doubt then as well, but I made the conscious decision to do it anyway. My calculation at the time was a pure risk/return calculation that had nothing to do with mining. I was OK with the mining projections, even if they were late (which seemed to be the common complaint regarding pre-orders) but my concern was with the legitimacy of the company and the whole operation. When I first started thinking about it, there was no re-seller in the US so I would have had to order from BA directly. I had to wait a few days to get paid, then transfer the money to the exchange, then wait three more days for it to get there. Well by the time my $300 made it to the exchange, BA changed their order policy from being able to buy 1 X-1 to 10 X-1's. So I was SoL, I couldn't afford one now!!! No big deal, I got some BTC. But then Minersource came along and said, "Hey! We can sell just one, buy from us!" So I decided to check out their site, filled in the personal information to create an account, went to the order page, and placed the order and it said to expect an email with payment details and instructions. The e-mail said to "contact matt@minersource.net to arrange manual bitcoin payment. I sent him an e-mail and I waited. And I waited. A few hours later I get an e-mail from: Quote halo3rockm@gmail.com; on behalf of; Matt Carson [matt@minersource.net] 1 X1 Ordered .344BTC Total, Payable to: 1E996GUR3TqgpL2rC7khXKL7YmfwMSM15a Upon confirmation of payment, order will be submitted to Order Q. It didn't seem very professional to me at all and my doubt meter went up more. I googled the gmail address and found the E-bay mark against him from a few years back, but nothing else. Still, I remember getting that sense that something seemed just a little off. It was then that I made the risk/return calculation. I figured it was only three hundred bucks and I knew there was a good chance I was just throwing it away. And that was the question I asked myself, is it worth throwing away $300 for a chance at mining some bitcoins with the cheapest pre-order available from a company I felt was a little off? And I just did it. And crossed my fingers the risk would pay off. Then a few weeks later came the news of the "move to the new data center" and my order is no longer on the live site but stuck in the archive site. And I knew then that I threw my money away. Sure I held out a little hope, I am human after all, but when they announced the delay, I just gave up. Then good ole PG came along. :) I appreciate the work you do over there, even if the posts are getting deleted (and how the fuck is that, in and of itself, not a glaring clue for people anyway??? *shakes head*). If you reach even one person who was about the pull the trigger and didn't, that's a win. But there is nothing you can do to save some people from parting with their money, even when they have been informed. People forget to do their due diligence because we've been hand held for so long, that's all. Some lessons are tough to learn, but absolutely necessary... I know that I won't get my BTC back, even though I have requested a refund, but that's because an informed decision I made turned out to be a bad choice. I can live with that. Unfortunately many other people can't and so they call FUD on you instead. It's easier to believe the lie than face the consequences of the truth. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: dogie on February 13, 2014, 01:14:48 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: jimmothy on February 13, 2014, 01:17:16 AM This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second. Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Kouye on February 13, 2014, 01:19:24 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. This whole instant love story is very dubious, but it probably requires a brand new post. This one is about MattCarson&associates. Please create a new thread to discuss about the magic that turned away PG from BFL obvious scams. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Vexatious on February 13, 2014, 01:34:51 AM This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second. Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature. CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front. So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: jimmothy on February 13, 2014, 01:43:50 AM This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second. Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature. CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front. So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL "CEX.io: A bad idea if you think you can use it to mine." Should be their new slogan. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would advertise such a service you know will not return profit on its investors. As for your post it really only consisted of "BA is bad mmkay" Serious question: Have any of you armchair sleuths tried contacting verisilicon (The people making the chips for BA)? Surely you would be able to dig up some shit more convincing than what you have done so far. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: goozman96 on February 13, 2014, 01:59:45 AM This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second. Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature. CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front. So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL "CEX.io: A bad idea if you think you can use it to mine." Should be their new slogan. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would advertise such a service you know will not return profit on its investors. As for your post it really only consisted of "BA is bad mmkay" Serious question: Have any of you armchair sleuths tried contacting verisilicon (The people making the chips for BA)? Surely you would be able to dig up some shit more convincing than what you have done so far. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 13, 2014, 04:21:57 AM Quote Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Tomatocage on February 13, 2014, 04:35:06 AM Quote Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014. wat Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 13, 2014, 04:39:47 AM And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking! First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. Tell us more about your arrangement please. Because I already answered it, but Alex Sovu/Alex Berk deleted the posts, but luckily for those that don't understand satire, this... Haha... troll city! Not a single one will actually take the bet. It's all about trolling, not telling the truth! Go away no one likes you here. God forbid people like Christian "Xian" Antkow and Darin "Bicknellski" Bicknell (the man who can't even make an ASIC board when other supply ALL of the technology, then tries to tell people who actually make the technology how to do business. The very height of asshattery.) actually tell the truth in their posts! It makes much more fun drama to make things up constantly lie about everything. And, to think all my posts were deleted off of Black Arrows thread due to me trolling. Matt Carson's post is definitely a troll post, of which nothing similar to what I've ever posted, I don't recall. Hey Josh, I got these fuckers believing that you're paying off that bet to me in weekly installments--plus interest. Also, keep that secret among ourselves about that arrangement I made with you to stay out of the BFL threads till at least you pay off your debt to me in full. ::) Also, tell Jody and Sonny I said hi, and my family is doing fine. MOTHERFUCKER!!! Thanks to this post I'm quoting, I just realized that I stood up for (or behind, no pun intended) Darin during that major blowup between you and him, and that fucker is sticking it up my ass big time over at the Black Arrow threads. Now, I'm really pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (key stuck) ~TMIBTCITW Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 13, 2014, 04:58:35 AM Quote Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014. wat Seriously! At one time, that was ~1.25M+ USD of my own money I couldn't use. Today, it's only about half as much, but I'm pretty sure I could do great things for myself and family then the person who's kindly currently holding it for me. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Justin00 on February 13, 2014, 08:34:49 PM nah i wasn't saying what he was doing was wrong.. I know he does help out people with his findings which is good..
i was just asking why he bothers after 3 years ? take the people in the active miner thread. that ken guy could come in and post an update saying "hello" and the clowns will convince themselves after 8 pages that "hello" somehow translte to "i'm getting XXnm chips and they will be ready soon" obviously that was slightly exagerated :] but still... forum has reached critical retardation levels and now newbie restrictions gone its only going to get worse. Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$. You're all wrong, there. We actually need more people like Phin - even though I was very disappointed and wanted to spank his butt after this JK-Dinner-Feast. He might be wrong, he might be harmful to some legit businesses. But he just states publicly known facts. Which should be harmless, right? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Kouye on February 13, 2014, 08:57:37 PM nah i wasn't saying what he was doing was wrong.. I know he does help out people with his findings which is good.. Once again, (and I'm sorry for this OT post, Bruno, feel free to shoot a PM and I will delete it), I disagree.i was just asking why he bothers after 3 years ? take the people in the active miner thread. that ken guy could come in and post an update saying "hello" and the clowns will convince themselves after 8 pages that "hello" somehow translte to "i'm getting XXnm chips and they will be ready soon" obviously that was slightly exagerated :] but still... forum has reached critical retardation levels and now newbie restrictions gone its only going to get worse. When I joined, about a year ago, there were MUCH more people getting scammed, at least in marketpace and lending subs. It's maybe a wrong feeling, but it seems to me that efforts have made those places safer. I agree we still need to improve on mining sub, though. There are means to acheive this, though, all we need is some strong voice as Tomato currently operating in lending/scamming, dedicated to issuing warnings in the mining sub. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Justin00 on February 13, 2014, 09:10:47 PM that is seriously crazy talk...
lending section is basically useless now. you see how quickly the scam section fills up each week ?? A yr or two ago it was just "blah blah scammed me" thread and I don't remember seeing close to the amount of scam accusation threads. securities has always been very degenerative... but now their are a small amount of decent ones so I agree that is slightly better. strong voice doesnt do anything when people can just sign up with tor over and over ( all tho this has been addressed now i think??).. people only get banned if they annoy theymos... forums gets hacked into every month.. noone cares... All the changes need to come from the top. Tomatocage does a gr8 job as well and he has defnetly stopped people getting scammed and should continue what he does... but unfortunately if that was all it took the scam accusation section wouldnt be getting filled up constantly each week right ? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Rawted on February 14, 2014, 04:13:05 PM Sahibi Alex Sovu 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom Might have to pop in. Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place). Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 15, 2014, 06:43:17 AM Sahibi Alex Sovu 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom Might have to pop in. Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place). According to Matt Carson, Black Arrow's office is no longer located in Reading. It's located at some secret location in London. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: djtriggz on March 01, 2014, 01:05:55 AM you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..
Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: MrPiggles on March 01, 2014, 04:10:07 AM Sahibi Alex Sovu 6-8 Market Place Reading, Berkshire RG1 6QJ United Kingdom Might have to pop in. Heading to Reading next week and I used to work on Station Road (which connects to Market Place). http://www.beoffices.com/servicedoffice-locations/south-east/reading Doubt you'll find anyone Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: notbatman on February 20, 2015, 01:59:17 PM you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet.. Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: XinXan on February 20, 2015, 07:54:45 PM you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet.. Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: notbatman on February 20, 2015, 09:38:06 PM you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet.. Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: greenlion on March 01, 2015, 04:25:26 PM Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow :D never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care. Whose sockpuppet is this? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: notbatman on March 01, 2015, 07:39:53 PM Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow :D never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care. Whose sockpuppet is this? Well he seems to think I deserve to be scammed for complaining about being scammed, sound familiar? ... Note: The discounts for future orders are offered only to customers who have believed in us and continued to support us. This will not be offered to customers who requested refunds and to a small minority who abused or threatened any member of Black Arrow Team. Quote blackarrow: Posted 05 February 2015 - 06:41 AM http://ecointalk.net/topic/2306-compensation/#entry23372 ... have been keeping a list of customers who have been abusive will absolutely not receive any compensation. ... Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: notbatman on March 03, 2015, 01:20:12 AM Could someone put these annoying Blackarrow theards into one. It is fucking annoying with the whole site flooded with black arrow threads. Btw. if you get scammed I'm sorry for you however if you flood the whole forum with your annoying posts, I hope you get scammed again ... oh yeah and who is blackarrow :D never heard of them anyways ...sounds like mycoin ... no one knew it and no one should care. Whose sockpuppet is this? Well he seems to think I deserve to be scammed for complaining about being scammed, sound familiar? ... Note: The discounts for future orders are offered only to customers who have believed in us and continued to support us. This will not be offered to customers who requested refunds and to a small minority who abused or threatened any member of Black Arrow Team. Quote blackarrow: Posted 05 February 2015 - 06:41 AM http://ecointalk.net/topic/2306-compensation/#entry23372 ... have been keeping a list of customers who have been abusive will absolutely not receive any compensation. ... I didn't directly say you deserve to be scammed. However, if you look in this forum and there is only a whole page of blackarrow or whatever theards it is really annoying. Now it is fine. If they scammed you sue them. Really who the fuck are you a new user coming in here and talking shit to people who lost thousands and thousands of dollars to a fucking scam? I'd call you a fucking loser but it's me that's lost. :( Wipe the jizz off your chin and get fucking lost. Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: Bicknellski on March 15, 2015, 06:39:56 AM Quote You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing. :-* You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned. Starting with... We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on. FACT! We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit: FACT! Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense. FACT! Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers. FACT! ~TMIBTCITW Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO. Where are you now Matt Carson? Title: Re: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged Post by: goozman96 on March 15, 2015, 06:47:13 AM Quote You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll. First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing. :-* You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned. Starting with... We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on. FACT! We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit: FACT! Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense. FACT! Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K. who, by the way, is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers. FACT! ~TMIBTCITW Where the hell are you getting that I moved so many times? Also the move, along with location #1 and location #2 are fully leased and paid for by Miner Hosting, not any COOP, so technically no permission of any sort was required. I needed to move for capacity reasons, as need far outstripped capacity available in MO. Where are you now Matt Carson? https://www.facebook.com/Borito4 |
