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December 12, 2013, 08:36:40 PM |
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This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU. You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining. Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled. The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.
The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.
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December 12, 2013, 09:53:47 PM |
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You make it sound way harder than it is. I can build a rig from scratch in 2 hours including os load with steady hash rate no cuts, scrapes are any of the other FUD.
Using what cards? I find it is a pain in the ass sometimes trying to get different cards working together. I had a 5830, 2x5850, and a 6950 in my rig and I had to try a lot of different versions of Catalyst and cgminer before they all wanted to work properly. Then I tore that apart and am using 4x5850s and working on getting the parts for my other rig... put the 6950 in my sons computer so he can play stupid FFXIV I run 7970's right now and will be building my R9 290 rig as soon as the cards come. My 7970 rigs are all based on the same hardware from the mobo up so after I built the first the others were just imaged which is much quicker to setup. I plan on water cooling everything on the R9 and making it my mining showpiece
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Damnsammit
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December 12, 2013, 10:36:02 PM |
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You make it sound way harder than it is. I can build a rig from scratch in 2 hours including os load with steady hash rate no cuts, scrapes are any of the other FUD.
Using what cards? I find it is a pain in the ass sometimes trying to get different cards working together. I had a 5830, 2x5850, and a 6950 in my rig and I had to try a lot of different versions of Catalyst and cgminer before they all wanted to work properly. Then I tore that apart and am using 4x5850s and working on getting the parts for my other rig... put the 6950 in my sons computer so he can play stupid FFXIV I run 7970's right now and will be building my R9 290 rig as soon as the cards come. My 7970 rigs are all based on the same hardware from the mobo up so after I built the first the others were just imaged which is much quicker to setup. I plan on water cooling everything on the R9 and making it my mining showpiece Nice. I bet it isn't hard getting the newer cards to work together, but mix-matching 58xx, 68xx, 69xx, 78xx, etc. seems to be problematic at times. I like making rigs with all 5850s though. They are really energy efficient, and I can usually find them for $60-80 on Craigslist... just gotta hunt for em.
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Papacrusher
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December 13, 2013, 04:50:23 AM |
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I'm working on raising some funds to get in on this group buy. I'm not tech savvy enough for my own setup, so this should be a good fit for me and I expect the LTC value to increase as cryptocurrencies become more well known to average joes like myself.
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madpoet
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December 13, 2013, 11:42:37 AM |
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I stood up a 4x R9 280 rig yesterday. Took about $1900 in parts and a couple hours work but I admit I have a pretty decent knowledge of PC building. Without any real tweaks I'm hashing away at ~2800. So less than $1 a hash. You guys are asking basically double that plus the hosting and management fees and it's not coming online for a few weeks as the LTC difficulty really begins to soar over the next couple months. I think that you will struggle to ROI on this. Yes the hardware resale might ultimately push it into profitability but that's going to be a long road. I am not saying they won't do a great job with managing this as they do a great job with all their GBs but it just might not make financial sense.
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thomas_s
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December 13, 2013, 01:09:22 PM |
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Why does everyone keep bringing up R9 280x's? Our supplier is out of these and we can't find a reliable source of them. These are being made with R9 290x's
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madpoet
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December 13, 2013, 01:18:50 PM |
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Because the 280s are better from a cost/performance standpoint Same reason everyone wanted 7950s. Don't get me wrong the R290s are nice, they just are power hogs and you don't get the same ratio out of them. The cost of building with 290s makes it harder to ROI because the increased hash they give doesn't outweigh the premium you pay for them.
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Beastlymac
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December 13, 2013, 01:20:37 PM |
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Why does everyone keep bringing up R9 280x's? Our supplier is out of these and we can't find a reliable source of them. These are being made with R9 290x's
The 280x's are better cards. They only get 100kh/s less and they are $100-200 cheaper. They also use less power and produce less noise/heat.
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Message me if you have any problems
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TonyAlmeida
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December 13, 2013, 01:28:56 PM |
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R9 280x is OOS everywhere I have checked
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TonyAlmeida
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December 13, 2013, 01:35:34 PM |
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I stood up a 4x R9 280 rig yesterday. Took about $1900 in parts and a couple hours work but I admit I have a pretty decent knowledge of PC building. Without any real tweaks I'm hashing away at ~2800. So less than $1 a hash. You guys are asking basically double that plus the hosting and management fees and it's not coming online for a few weeks as the LTC difficulty really begins to soar over the next couple months. I think that you will struggle to ROI on this. Yes the hardware resale might ultimately push it into profitability but that's going to be a long road. I am not saying they won't do a great job with managing this as they do a great job with all their GBs but it just might not make financial sense.
May I ask where did you purchased your R9 280x from? And what is your ROI estimate on this system? Thanks
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madpoet
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December 13, 2013, 01:43:08 PM |
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I bought them back on Black Friday when Newegg and others were blowing them out. I actually have 3 more new in box sitting on the shelf that I bought for a friend who didn't want them so I will be selling them off. ROI if LTC price holds reasonably steady should be 45-50 days.
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TonyAlmeida
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December 13, 2013, 02:08:04 PM |
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Thank you very much, Let me know the price of those R9 280x if you plan of selling them.
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hjlow
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December 13, 2013, 03:05:51 PM |
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in for 1 share, thanks 654ebdcff39c44460810018d6b5b9c6e784699a83a8705f80bcb39cad53c955b-000 mine some protoshares!
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rudyo
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December 14, 2013, 08:48:07 AM |
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Why does everyone keep bringing up R9 280x's? Our supplier is out of these and we can't find a reliable source of them. These are being made with R9 290x's
The comments are right, the 280x is a much better choice than the 290x. How many are you looking for? I have a decent supply of brand new Gigabtye R9 280x - GV-R928XOC-3GD REV2
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Stinky_Pete
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December 14, 2013, 12:58:51 PM |
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in for 1 share, thanks 654ebdcff39c44460810018d6b5b9c6e784699a83a8705f80bcb39cad53c955b-000 mine some protoshares! Protoshares is still CPU only.
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mikenz
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December 14, 2013, 04:38:37 PM |
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Ill take 1 share:
TxID f7b995f562629988780adacc0a04fdcd635923e731be90dcd6f79a7bd2ca8dc0
thx
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DyslexicZombei (OP)
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December 17, 2013, 08:22:44 AM |
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Thanks and Welcome Aboard!I've been away from the forums for a couple of days and I couldn't find this Round in the GB forum. I see that this Group Buy has been banished to the winter netherlands of the all in one Alt. coin forum by the mods. You'd think that with all the money they made that the mods would further organize the alt coin subforums to make even more money. == Hey fellow alt.coin fans! Why do I feel like I was sent to the Island of Misfit Toys? Don't they know that all that glitters is not Bitcoin?
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Tragter
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December 18, 2013, 02:58:00 PM |
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payout address #1206: LXqq66VGEWFtPaPgMKQfJBAZVLhSLVJ2s7
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testerx
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December 18, 2013, 11:27:14 PM |
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Why does everyone keep bringing up R9 280x's? Our supplier is out of these and we can't find a reliable source of them. These are being made with R9 290x's
It's much better from a khash per watt perspective to build a mining rig using 280x's as well as from a $ per khash perspective. Which is not so coincidentally why all the suppliers are out. It's also worth considering trying to acquire 7970 or 7950 cards as the 7970 and 280x are actually the same chip and the 7950 is a close second in mining favorability. I think a GPU mining rig could be a good idea but again this setup you guys have proposed is just not the right way to go about it, I know the 280x's are impossible to obtain right now but really I would be patient about this, with all the crypto currency prices tanking these cards will be much easier to obtain soon and in the meantime you can do more planning on how to build a serious crypt mining rig. If you want some suggestions on how to design a high end scrypt miner I'm sure we'd be more than happy to help with the build.
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December 23, 2013, 06:28:55 PM |
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any update on this? so many questions asked and other suggestions given. still on track?
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