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I foresee it coming, it keeps on ringing in my ears with series of flashbacks. It will happen like a speed of light in a vacuum. Most bitcoin holders will betray bitcoin one day, they  will see no value in bitcoin again, they will dump bitcoin and call it all sort of name, with all these i know there will be holders who will follow bitcoin till death apart. They will hold on no matter how tough things will be for our mother coin.My question is which side will you be?. LONG LIVE CRYPTO, LONG LIVE BITCOIN.

The crypto market is profit driven. The loyalty is directly proportional to the potential profit a coin can generate. So bitcoin is no exception here. I am a long time holder of bitcoin. I didn't sell off my holdings when the price was at 21k. I am not ready to sell of my holdings today as well. Because I belive there is potential.

The moment I stop believing that the potential is not anymore present in bitcoin. I will loose my interest in holding and sell of my reserve. So when someone says they are loyal to bitcoin not because of the potential profit but for the technology, I laugh silently. Till the time potential for profit is there, people will love even the technology. The moment all potential is gone, people will not think twice before dumping it. That's how the world crypto economy works.

The short term dumpers are long gone.  Bitcoin has by far the most dedicated holders out of any crypto coin.  This is what gives bitcoin's its immense strength and dominance.  Even the founder has billions of dollars he could of used just sitting in storage.  Sometimes its about more than just money!

The one who have bought bitcoin just to get some profit in the bull run will quickly sell whenever dump starts like first few month of this year.

Institutional investors and whales will sell when all were buying and buy when all are selling like right now. They are buying..

Early bitcoin investors and adopters sell some part of their coin at peak prices and hold remaining without getting affected by any market sentiment.

New investors are the one who loses heavily during dumps and they buy at peak prices.

So, when people dumps their coin varies in case of bitcoin and yes there will always be some sellers and buyers in the market which is normal. I don't think selling bitcoin for profit can be considered as betraying bitcoin.  ;D  

It can not be imagined when Bitcoin is on the mountain and everyone will sell the asset. Apparently, there are who want to buy it in a very large amount at that price. It may not be a beginner who is a big buyer. A new historical scenario will be created. And so on.  ;)

That is not betrayal! That is calles investments! If Bitcoin will lose its value in the future, isn't it only natural to dump it? Why will you hold on something that has no value? Nothing lasts forever. We should learn to accept that there are things we need to forget once it losses its value. For now, I don't see that Bitcoin's value will diminish. We are too far from it.

Agree with this. Those not loyal holders are gone just 2-3 months when the value of the bitcoin crashes. The remaining population of the holders right now are those serious on what they are doing and not just playing around.

Indeed, bitcoin fluctuations was a normal happenings in digital currency so we need to be more observant with its current trends. If a trader dumps his asset one day, the goal was reached already and its also an opportunity for other comers to buy the holdings. The holders isn't responsible for bitcoin to fall, but am confident day traders and other big fishes played the market merely dirty

i owe bitcoin nothing. its job is to serve my purposes. if it no longer aligns with my purposes then it's goodbye. anything that requires the sympathy and charity of its users does not deserve to thrive because the rest of the world sure won't put up with it either.

It doesn't matter if I am holding bitcoin or not, it matters what I support. I support bitcoin because of its technology and the features it provides. Nothing in the world will not replace bitcoin.

I think there's nothing wrong on those people who will betraying bitcoin because it's their lost, they are not a good users because they don't know what are they doing. They are not loyal so they don't deserve bitcoin.

It will always happen. When there's a pump, expect a dump is coming. This is how the market works. A true believer of bitcoin will never sell-off it's assets even for a million, instead he will use bitcoin as his native currency.

Was wondering the same but if they sell means someone bought and we have next holders

Its a natural things, when it got no more value people will start to dump it, most of the people appreciate bitcoin because of the value not because of the technology or the breakthrough, so once bitcoin losing its value people will jump to another coin to invest

well if you think this is a game and people are just bag holding and betraying things (which doesn't even make any sense) then feel free to  leave. nobody is holding you down and forcing you to continue to buy bitcoin and hold bitcoin with a gun to your head. sell your small amount of bitcoin and get out. we would be glad to buy it from you and add it to our stash.

I think most people buy bitcoins to make a profit, and it's very unlikely they do not want to sell when they see prices go up. But I myself think about bitcoin survival and other crypto money than I should have. I can still benefit from trading and investment altcoin, For me sacrificing bitcoin is too valuable than my selfish.

I will sell all my bitcoins when the price is good.What`s the point of HODLing your bitcoins untill you die.
It`s not about "betrayal",it`s about getting profits from bitcoin.One day, all the BTC users will find that bitcoin is no longer valuable for them or for anybody else.Of course they will dump it.So what?Life goes on.

if you foresee it then why are you here wasting time? go go go sell your bitcoin fast. my buy orders are waiting for you. :D

wow I never knew hundreds of thousands of people could coordinate this fast and perform the same act at the same time with this kind of speed. maybe we should use "bitcoin holders" to teach us how they coordinated with each other. we can use that in the world.
I also didn't know our exchanges are so advanced that can now handle that kind of traffic LOL

what is this? a cheesy soap opera on TV?

yeah, suddenly hundreds of thousands of people are going to wake up one morning and say "hay the only decentralized currency in the world has no value any more" LMAO

they are not called "holders" they are called idiots. people don't hold bitcoin for no reason, they invest in it and hold it because they know what bitcoin is, what it does and they know about its potential.
you, as a newbie, see a price drop and call it "tough times". but someone who knows what bitcoin is beyond its price knows that this is yet another discount on the way to mass adoption.

It is possible that the bitcoin holders would betray bitcoin because one of the factors is the price or the value of bitcoin in the market because it can affect them especially  gaining income that's why some bitcoin holder would transfer any crypto business that much higher compare to the bitcoin. But I think it depends of the people's loyalty to the bitcoin whether the price may go or high still you are committed to this industry. It is within their hands if they still continue bitcoin or not but if you are loyal enough to the bitcoin, I'm pretty sure that you are deserve to received  the best from it.

This market is quite "new", and when biggest whales see the opportunity to make money here, they will come, ALL OF THEM, We better to enjoy the market/profit before they will come.. cause probably one day there will be or much manipulation, or if they come massively, really low volatility.

I somewhat I agree with you on this. We are all in here for the profit but merely holding your bitcoin and not using it for transactions or not moving your bitcoin elsewhere won't help the bitcoin's performance in the market. We need not only to hold our bitcoins but also might as well use it so that there will be movement of the coin. Bitcoin's value depends on the acceptance and adoption of the people to the currency.

then with that logic price of anything else in any other market can crash because the blank-holders can "betray" blank. for instance gold price can crash (based on your logic) because gold holders can betray gold. or Google can crash and burn because Google share holders can betray Google and dump their shares!

do you see how dumb that logic sounds like when you stop focusing on the "bitcoin" part and focus on what you are really saying?

That will surely happen but everyone one of them cant decide to dump at the same time so its just a life circle, if dump we will still have another holdlers...

I do not think that will happen. Bitcoin holders will not betray Bitcoin. Bitcoin has only 21 million pieces, and already more than half of it is mined. Although Bitcoin is running low, it does not discourage investors from joining Bitcoin. I'll stay here because I'm sure BItcoin will still survive for the next 50 years. I will say long live BItcoin.

This opinion was make me thinking actually, I couldn't say not and I couldn't say yes either. Well, it's depends on each personality of the hodlers, some of them has loyalty and some of them are not.

Everyone  of them can never betray simultaneously since they don't  have same mind set and know each others... If one person dump we will still have another buyers to hold because btc is getting popular every day...

Do you see it coming? so how have you seen that? do you have a crystal ball?

How you ended up understanding the words betrayal = selling? There's nothing wrong in selling if you sold at profit and it's not betrayal.

So before you see it coming, it's already happening.

Its 100% holding side I am on! I never betray bitcoin and will not do it after seeing how much profits it has given me after it holding it tight and until the last moment of its hikes. I know how it works completely, and to be practical those weak hands are not here to stay because they never learn how the stuff works here and they never will try to learn it by themselves. This is the biggest reason I believe we see those dumpsters. They might be literate people in real world but in here they are nothing. Sure they will never hold until last moment.

Well, nothing is impossible. Even brothers betray brothers. But one thing I believe about Bitcoin is that every holder is driven by the potential and profit returns which is a common interest. Most Bitcoin holders are very passionate about Bitcoin. They all have this strong believe about its potential. Most of the people who could have dump bitcoin now have done that several years ago, and I don't see any further dumping now considering it stability and the level of acceptance now. It will be very difficult for the holders to betray a common interest which they are also beneficiaries of.

Dont see this happening because we have several people holding bitcoin and they will never dump at once since unless there is FUD

The number of people who hold a large amount of bitcoin buy more when the price drops, do you understand me?

Lol, funny. Bitcoin is just a currency it is just a tool, I cannot betray it since it is not my friend or relative. So if bitcoin would lose its effectivity and perspectives, definitely I would change it to be something else.

I sincerely agree.
The point of holding of true believers will bring NO END to crypto currencies. And when I say true holders, they are the one who believe in the technology and not directly to the profits it can give with pump and dump.

Yes there will be betrayers out there because they focus on rewards and when they can't earn easily, they get bored and just leave. I do not see any concept of cryptocurrencies in there.

I stay silet too. and for sure I will not regret any decision that I will make when it comes to holding my coins. I do make transactions but never see it as a source of money only. I have big hopes for it that is why I value its use.

I think it will not happen that holders of bitcoin will betray someday because they can earn also here in bitcoin. There is a humor about that but for me it is impossible because bitcoin is the reason why they can also earn.

I am agree with you, if the current owner betrayed, bitcoin and until sell bitcoin, if it happens there must be a next holder, but I hope the current bitcoin owner does not betray bitcoin.

Well time will really come that all of us here is gonna leave bitcoin especially if we found something that could brought to us bigger profit. As of now I can assure that I will not leave bitcoin as long as I get what I want. Leaving bitcoin is just a smart decision to do because you must always choose what's best for you.

oh come on! Why do you say that??? Holder will never betray Bitcoin.

Well technically we're really going to leave bitcoin someday. Don't be a hypocrite because that's the truth. We are in bitcoin because of the profit and time will come that other system will rise. When other system time has come then I'm pretty sure that we will exchange bitcoin for that because of more opportunities and bigger profit.

Everyone has his own limits for holding or selling BTC. If for an early adopter who might have bought BTC at a few dollars selling at 6k might be a fortune, for someone buying now BTC a good option would be fore sure to sell after/if BTC will value more than 10k.

Also, there will be people that will hold their BTC no matter what the price is for longer time (years). Personally, when I will decide to sell my holdings, I will never sell more than half.

In an instances I agree that could happen for some. As people now runs where they think is much better choices to be made. But I see myself still stepping the path I'm taking towards bitcoin no matter what happen. Perhaps I'll be on other cryptos but I won't leave bitcoin still.

Bitcoin users mostly not really wants bitcoin will used as global payments but they're just an investors who hunt for profits.
I think if bitcoin is not profitable anymore, they will leave bitcoin and that will the end of bitcoin

Obviously they will betray bitcoin if bitcoins not have any value again and i will stop investing too. For what doing investment when bitcoin no longer have values. This is investment sir, if you can gain from there then you will stay. But personally i hope bitcoin keep alive when i still alive.

You caa't benefit in hodling bitcoin itself. After all, many of us simply thinks that bitcoin is just a matter of money and profit and when a technology surpass it then it will be  the end for bitcoin.

Everything depends on many factors. If the price of bitcoin will stably grow higher, the number of holders will only increase.

In my own understanding, I believe people are here for bitcoin because everyone wants to earn profit as much as you can. Only time can tell as to when will bitcoin to continue it's journey. However, during this time, I am still optimistic that bitcoin will still continue to shine in the coming years and this will attract more people to participate in doing investment. Bear market will subside later and giving way for a bullish market someday were most of the btc supporters are waiting for that to happen soon.

I think that I want to live to both of them. I love bitcoin and also the cryptocurrency. Yes I know that bitcoin can help me to buy what I wanted, by earning profit similarly crypto world helps me to understand why I am here and the reason why I am here. Maybe someday if bitcoin will disappear in the crypto world, people will find an alternative currency which is similar to bitcoin.

It is normal to see a reason to be on the side of a particular cryptocurrency or another. Everyone is expected to make a wise investment decisions and pursue it. In any case, bitcoin will continue to be with us as the father of all cryptocurrencies and it will remain very useful.

I think holders can never betray bitcoin. They invest to earn money not to betray bitcoin. Bitcoin will never be gone in crypto world. It is for the holders if what they want for their bitcoin. We can buy, hold and sell our bitcoin if we want.

For me, bitcoin holder will not betray because bitcoin has a big part or rule in their lives. I know people will value bitcoin for it is the reason for having a good profit like financial stability.

It will definitely come to pass since people will not hold onto something when it actually lose it value. Investment is for you to maximize your profit if you are not gaining from it then why should you still continue.

Bitcoins are more likely to be speculative than using them for payment. So, you will easily recognize with the investors and business. They fully implement the plan and policies to maximize the profit generated. Because, that is the most important trait in business. That is not too difficult to understand.

Well it is not a form of betrayal. You should not think that way because bitcoin is more on like savings like you will pull off your savings when you need it. I do not think that you get the concept of investing bitcoin. Maybe you should do more study on the system and how it works. There are many opportunities that could be found in cryptocurrency especially bitcoin.

Bitcoin holders know the truth about bitcoin in a better way than the one who has been into bitcoin expecting profit alone. If they were with plans to betray, long back itself this could have taken place when top level people revealed some negative statements over bitcoin to defeat the growth.

I think, that will happen is bitcoin holders will get advantages from bitcoin, bitcoin holders will always store bitcoins in their lives as their most valuable asset.

maybe your mean is bitcoin holders will betray bitcoin when bitcoin will dying and dead?

bitcoin will not die, the bitcoin scarcity will make bitcoin more expensive, and will make bitcoin holders more trusting to bitcoin.

I very disagree. Most people have notes in their purses. The notes lose their value every second. Why do not they sell their notes till it hase some value? Because they like the technology (instant fee less payment).

Those loving economy - bitcoin price (without speculation) would = T / (M * V).
That is index of real expenditures / (total nominal amount of money supply in circulation * velocity of money).

You are right but I can't agree with your all prediction. No one knows what will happen in future. Bitcoin holders are a blessing for this crypto field. Lots of bitcoin holders are very very rich now through bitcoin. Bitcoin helped them a lot. Now they are holding bitcoin to gain more. They are already a millionaire,  they do not rely on bitcoin. So, I think most of the dumpers keep dumping their bitcoin but holders are not. They will hold bitcoin forever. This is my opinion.

Lol I won't! I would be happy to live the rest of my life on the tokens that I own at the moment without a need to sell them ever :)

Only if for speculative purposes

With how bitcoin give opportunities to earned then more people will continue to patronage this investment, can't tell if there's any limitations if flowing money are in stake, more risky investors and traders will played along and the mere fact that whales and rich people already inside this industry is really difficult to give limitations and for sure if we continue being positive outcome will be much better.

What I understand is that speculators (not holders) pump and dump the currency's price to make profit, but holders don't follow their movements, as they aren't focused in fast profit or trading, but long term gains... What could happen in my opinion is that one day, when BTC hit a really awesome price, these holders will start selling their coins and then Bitcoin would be negatively affected (could this be considered a betrayal?).

But at same time, the adoption will be high and the number of coins being sold (supply) would have enough public to buy them (demand) without hurting Bitcoin's price very much.

Perhaps the funniest post I have seen in recent times! Actually bitcoin holders are wise fellow who stay loyal to the network. When they betray and run away, then they have just loss real digital gold value. Having tasted the party of btc, it is difficult to part ways. This is just like a young domesticated Lion that was made to feed as humans, but the day it hunts on fresh blood, he will forever yearn for it.  

Most bitcoin holders will betray bitcoin, and only a small number of firm miners keep holding bitcoin, and these people will get huge profits.

Those selling bitcoin like a speed of light are traders who are not in for the long haul. But you have to understand that its how some investors play this game, they will sold off the minute they recognized the $$$ in their minds. And then rinse and repeat. But true holders will not make any adjustment because for them (us) bitcoin is a good investment specially if you are going to hold on it for long term. So I see no reason to whine about them, and you have to accept that fact as well and don't be emotional if you see them dumping bitcoins.

I have believed in BTC since last year and its not that Im going to betray it. The coin has all the potentials for it to be called a crypto and HODLing on to it till it hit the moon once again.

People are driven by greed and whichever currency gives them the maximum returns and is the most beneficial for them they are going to choose that currency. You can't expect someone to be loyal to a currency for their lifetime. As long as bitcoin continues to innovate and develop I don't think it has to worry about this problem.

i think that only applies the people that jumped in the bitcoin hype train, thinking they can get rich vey easily and probably they are mostly gone by now since they got nervous when the price fell andsold eveything

exactly. newbies will only think that way but experienced bitcoiners can always handle the bad situation. They did already betrayed bitcoin because bitcoin did fail them to give a 100% huge profit , instead bitcoin gave them a 100% major downfall resulting for their investments to get crashed and now they do start to get panicked and loos all of they got.

But us experienced investors wont possibly betray bitcoin no matter what happen . whether in good or bad times , we are happily engaged with bitcoin.

This depends on the application of the BTC later, if it still retains its features and fixes the current disadvantages are not. But may later be a superior one and overcoming these disadvantages may be the BTC will be betrayed

Betraying of bitcoin will be very difficult to those that started it earlier Because they have great believe and lots hope in bitcoin investments besides they have gain a lot from it.  I think this will be applicable to the beginners because their purpose of coming to cryptocurrency to make huge profit over night seems impossible as the price of bitcoin is totally down for now, so they are disappointed and most of them lose their investments already that's why they will betray bitcoin.

This is impossible.  BTC is the future currency and now is the future.  I know you are confused and frustrated due to recent decline but this will end soon. BTC as well as other cryptocurrency will turn back and move forward.

Also, it should be called profit gaining. We can’t expect holders to hold bitcoins forever. They hold it to gain profit and the only way for that to happen is to sell it one day. They may even sell it even before the value goes down. Holders would probably dump their coins once the price has reached a certain amount which they are satisfied with and will give them a return of investment. It’s not betrayal and a man has got to eat.

I don't think so that you are correct, but I can't educate you, that is your own opinion and I'll respect you. All of us now, we don't know what will happen in the future with Bitcoin. But for me, there is, cryptocurrency will be the best in the future, there are already many companies are using cryptocurrencies nowadays.

The component you are referring to is only a small part of the Crypto market. In fact, ignorant people will often comment a lot and not pay attention to reality. Those who lamented on this forum have always shown that they have negative thoughts and that these are hardly successful.
Those who understand the true value of Crypto will calm down and hold onto it until its price goes up again. ;)

maybe someday bitcoin holder will betray bitcoin by selling their bitcoin because they already got the profit from it, but when the price of bitcoin is going low again i think they will buy again and hold that bitcoin until they got profit again. its normal right for the investor and trader to buy when the low and sell it when the high

No doubt about that. If someone decided to sell their bitcoin, their are still new investors who will buy some of it. We cannot control their minds and beliefs but as long as their is still bitcoin existing, their will still investors who will stay in this crypto world.

while bitcoin still benefits I think bitcoin will persist, and vice versa if bitcoin is no longer in trust then all can happen.
that's the reality.

I don't think so,
It's a natural process when someone wants to buy or sell his or her Bitcoin then he must choose the best time and procedure in order to get a good profit figure. So this should not be called decisive or betray according to my perception. This is a real matter of trading.

It might be true because a lot of us that are here are after the profits but I think most of us will realize slowly that it is really a working product. It will stay with us offering us convenience and even we stop trading it, we still use it because we will prefer it than the old fiat system.

Bitcoin will stay strong in next 5 years i am believe. Investor in cryptocurrency market believe bitcoin is the safest crypto in market because have big liquidity but if government start regulate cryptocurrency, I am believe many investor will divide their investment to others crypto and find coin that similiar with bitcoin

What is this discussion? sorry this is tickling and silly
what you say has much to say before, there are many economists say that the end of bitcoin is in this year. but the fact is that bitcoin is able to grow even more so the presence of bitcoin has been more than a decade. stop thinking silly and naive.

You think that all investors will remain loyal to bitcoin irrespective of how it grows. That will not happen also we may se other coins giving better returns and thus being picked.

For me you are a true bitcoin but the way you judge bitcoin is not necessarily all true and also cannot be said wrong ... because investors will still buy cheap prices and sell them when prices are expensive.

Big crypto holders hold bitcoin if market is downtrend also any kind of situation they hold but many biggest whales create panic situation when market is down & create panic seller so they can buy bitcoins in down market, I think many holders will betray but bitcoin future is bright so its look like impossible they hold till bitcoin death because they are experience and they manipulate bitcoin price from bulk buying and selling.

I will not throw Bitcoin because Bitcoin is my main key to working in trading on the Exchange.
regardless of the price of Bitcoin I will not sell it.

except maybe my family needed funds, like my mother was sick and had to be hospitalized.

If you a holder, the first thought you had before invest in bitcoin is all about the beliefs and the hopes for it.
I decided to hold not because of quick money but the future that bitcoin can provide to all of us. Because of this I would not  easily sell my coin which I think also for a lot of other people.
I also have discipline for holding which will hold me back from doing anything stupid to my investment.

I think that in one day bitcoin can not make a big increase or minus, it's not enough to keep it only one day. I would have kept it about half a year or a year, it would have grown very well and you would have earned good money)

No one betray if it will keep itself value at the end of. But it is money if we look basically. So if it is not any value no one keep it forever.

well it's natural to dump it, why would you hold something that doesn't have value to you. but i don't see bitcoin value will be gone

I think that it is not all about the holders or the sellers, i think that people need to understand for which purposes bitcoin has been created for, that is the only reason

smart bitcoin owners will keep it until the moment when it does not go up, the rest let them do what they want

Well, that's quite logical. The bitcoin is certainly a good coin, but everyone who holds it, has some plans for it. Everyone will wait for his price to sell it, after all, waiting for many years that bitcoin will become the currency of the whole world, is not logical. It is more logical to sell it and buy a car and a house to live in pleasure.

I want to see how BTC is becoming global digital currency. I don't sell my assets at all, just convert small parties to fiat for pocket money. In future everybody will understand real value of Bitcoin and digital world.

it is not called betraying. everyone is ready to sell when they see they are in big profit and for the healthy market it is necessary buy and sell in the market :)

That is just a forecast. But it's hard for me to do that. The real value of Bitcoin to date is probably everyone can know and have their own predictions about the future development of Bitcoin. If someone betrays Bitcoin then they are doing it all over the world because that would be bad for everyone, including me. I do not expect that to happen.

There are still many that believe on bitcoin potention itself, only people that just started that not sute about this. Of course it's very clearly what you should do if you're in both position. First option, bitcoin potention where it will has more value someday that makes bitcoin so far. Behind that bitcoin has base of technology that makes it stand in market in it high prices.

Well, for me, you cannot tell what others will do if ever bitcoin falls. The best thing to do is, for us users to help each other and help bitcoin grow and be spread. Let us also make things not just for us to simply earn but what we can do for bitcoin itself. Whatever happens it will always depend on how people will react. It does not matter what will happen in the future what is important is happening now. Let us hope for bitcoin's continuous growth and success in the future.

I will stay with Bitcoin to the end because I believe in the potential of technology and I understand that if I do not now support it, then in the future I will simply not figure out my money

Lol the real  holders of bitcoin has been supporting for how many years now,and yet the trust still strong I don't know where did you get this stupid idea but only weak and noob that pretended to be holder will betray bitcoin ,the rest of us will hold what ever happens,if this will end of losing our precious funds so be it but we will support this pioneering coin until the end

btc will always be my passion when in it comes to cryptocurrency and i will never betray btc.

I do not support that ideology. Bitcoin holders now are the real holders and then market plummeted, the people that sold off at huge loss are people that do not believe in Bitcoin. Now, the real and main holders are people holding bitcoin wether its for long term or for short term

The market has fallen for a long time, and many have left it. Bitcoin still has no sign of rebounding, who holds it started to doubt it and sell it. The number of people going Bitcoin is rising day by day, the number of people increasing is a damn.

I think almost everyone will do the same thing. that is, when prices rise dramatically, they will make dumb bitcoin by selling all their assets, without buying when the price is in progress. this cannot be said to be a sustainable investment.

We need something / something only when it is useful to us. Bitcoin too, people invest and hold Bitcoin because it can benefit everyone, because it has the potential to grow. When Bitcoin no longer benefits them, they will leave Bitcoin. Whenever Bitcoin is valid, people will still hold it. When Bitcoin is out of stock do you still hold it?

There's nothing impossible in crypto life but I believed it will be very difficult for bitcoin holders to betray it since its still the ruling and most profitable and secured coin in blockchain but on thing is sure. The moment all potential is gone, people will not think twice before dumping BTC That's how the world crypto economy works. But I don't pray or hope for this to happen.

I believe you are correct. When bitcoin loses its value, people who have been holding for years will eventually turn their back on bitcoin. I hate to admit it but there are more people who are just here for the money than who are genuinely here to help bitcoin grow. Many people bought bitcoin because of the hype and got influenced by other success stories.

Let them do whatever they wanted to do. That's how their story will be with bitcoin and even if they do, i believe that they will still come back again especially when they see that bitcoin is rising drastically again. It's better that way than really leaving crypto and became an advocate for others not to support bitcoin and cryptos.

anything can happen along with the needs of desires and progress in developments that will continue to progress rapidly the possibility of investors will look for opportunities and opportunities that will get profit

I totally disagree with this because holders have no option to betray with bitcoin rather they are the main user I think because they hold so that the value increase.

In business there is no traitor, only brave and cowardly. Profit or loss. That's all! If you go bankrupt because bitcoin then moves away from bitcoin and defiles the name bitcoin, it's a narrow mind. There is no introspection why go bankrupt or lose. On the other hand, many are fortunate to become millionaires because of bitcoin. How can?. Because bitcoin requires analysis, it requires an intelligent brain and requires courage to make decisions.

bitcoin many advantages its good technology

There always be someone who wants to believe. Some people will stay with btc after all.

It is hard to predict what will happend in the future.  For the bitcoin holders, they investee in bitcoin it means that they believe and support it so it is impossible for them to betray bitcoin. We dont want to waste of time to betray as we start to take a risk   and brave enough to trust cryptocurrency.

You stole the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I was thinking which is why I find it hilarious when so many investors actually preach in such a big way when they themselves happily sell their coins and tokens without thinking for a second when their portfolio value increases in a small or big way. Its all about the money at the end of the day, but I do appreciate the technology behind Bitcoin and I like what crypto is trying to achieve in this world.

I believe that bitcoin will remain strong despite many difficulties

it all depends on each user, maybe one day someone will betray bitcoin if they don't get the results from bitcoin, but for people who can still get results from bitcoin they will remain loyal to bitcoin.

Bitcoin holders will not betray bitcoin one day, they are betraying bitcoin already. Don't be surprise to know that people that say the worst things against bitcoin are bitcoin holders. They say some statement like bitcoin is a bubble, bitcoin is dead, it is over, bitcoin is an asshole.

Bitcoin is not a personal treasure to hodl until death, everyone has a price point at which they will cash out. This should not be considered betrayal as it is currently an investment more than a digital form of payment

i thought it is investment and people invest

I'm on neutral side, even bitcoin already help a lot into my life. But i will still think logically, if bitcoin don't have value anymore, so i will leave it. We can't keep fight what stream do, and we can only follow what will happen.

for me I just keep on holding coins even though it is still low in prices in the market will come as time is coming back at high prices. I still keep on supporting bitcoin because it's advantage in technology

LOL, this is very funny. The attention and loyalty paid to Bitcoin today is equivalent to its potentials and value today. But the thing is, if the value ever drops and doubt clouds its potentiality of regaining the masses' trust, people will eventually forbid trading it. It's only natural for people to stay away from investments that has zero value and no future promise of gains. But I don't wish that for Bitcoin at all. I really want it to remain relevant and widely accepted just like fiat money of today. And help the world's economic value.

I think this is not possible Bitcoin holders will betray bitcoin one day.Because those who are purely involve this crypto market they can not betray.Price low or high they doesn't matter.They invest their bitcoin ,time for thinking develop their future.

No it will never happen bitcoin is like gold and someday those who sell their precious bitcoins will surely regret if it will recover again next year and reach another record high Im a hodler and I will never sell my hard earned btc  no matter what just by listening into FUDS by different media.

people's opinions may be different, some even predict that bitcoin will be very high in value for the future, but there are also those who predict bitcoin will weaken in time! proven now at the end of 2018 the state of bitcoin is in a downward state!

bitcoin is the fruit of technology and this will not be changed from now to the future because technology is the driving force in all current community activities. I am optimistic that bitcoin will be legendary and invaluable later

Blockchain technology  behind bitcoin will enable it stand the test of time while some people are always after short term profits and encourages dumping hence leave while waiting for another opportunity to come, there also firm believers  that really hodl on in spite of all odd and who I believed will never betray bitcoin, they have been into it for a long time and have a long term foresight of bitcoin in fact theystill hodl on to it despite all the challenges faced by btc.

The bitcoin holders that would betray Bitcoin are largely those who do not believe in the Bitcoin potentials.
Those of us who believe in the huge potentials and benefits of bitcoin in the long run despite the present value will never betray bitcoin.

what do you think, do you expect them to stay aside, while the market just grabs another "coin" and moons it?

bitcoin hodlers are opportunists

this is true and i totally believe on it .  bitcoin hodlers will betray bitcoin one day when the time where bitcoins value will drop harder and wont recover anymore  .  this can also happen to atlcoin and token hodlers because if bitcoin could totally collapse , other cryptos are also affected because they are all connected to bitcoin  .

whats the point of staying is they were obsolete anyway? i am right ?   instead we humans will find another way to earn income and that is to invest again on other stable and more safer alternatives .

Every investor and traders are opportunists, if you are not one, you will not be able to earn.

We should not address all of them as opportunists because obviously, they are holding Bitcoins so they can be able to earn a profit. Why would they hold Bitcoin in the first place right? If they want to pump the price of Bitcoin, there is no way that they will not sell thay in a certain price.

So you are saying that you will never be selling your bitcoin even if it reaches a new all time high? Pfft... you are holding it mainly just for the profit. Not for using  it as a medium of exchange. We all know that. Why else would you be holding it? You will eventually cash out for fiat and run away with your profits, just like most of the other people.

Most people in this market are speculators, so there is no betrayal. In other words, the number of believers in Bitcoin is much smaller than that of speculators, more people chasing only money, not belief in Bitcoin.
The reason why Bitcoin can attract so many speculators is because of the ICO mythology last year. This myth has been shattered this year.

I do not agree that bitcoin should just be kept in our wallets. This is contrary to the main purpose of Bitcoin as a means of payment. This is only digital virtual money, and for a good growth of money their turnover is needed. If most people just keep Bitcoin in their wallets, it can be worthless. People just stop using it.

It wouldn’t will happen hahahaha bitcoin is everything altcoin maybe would be possible, but in bitcoin it’s probably will never happen
Maybe in some point yes bitcoin isn’t suit for keeping in out wallets but some of it just a little bit that we can use to pay our bills. MANY BITCOIN HOLDERS IS AROUND THERE I KNOW

I think there is no point of betraying bitcoin, specially when we already gain on it in so many ways. Maybe we have our different sight and opinion regarding crypto but I strongly believe that there are maybe only few people will have the courage to betray this bitcoin, because it is really a very helpful coin and it helps is a lot in terms of financial problem.

I don't know, is it betrayal if you decide one day that you will sell all your Bitcoins? Perhaps it is only if you commit to HODL it for eternity. But of course, you simply cannot do it. Later on, you will decide to sell them. I cannot predict as to the exact reason why. Perhaps because a BTC is already worth a million dollars, or perhaps because you are in need for some cash, or perhaps because it is already dying. Only time will tell. Although as of now, I cannot leave Bitcoin for certain reasons. One of which is that it has yet to blossom fully and I am committed to contribute to its success by having some and by using it accordingly.

Majority might dump as major bitcoiners (now a days) are just investors but as more and more authorities are either recognizing or accepting BTC as payment - Bitcoin is already mainstream.

You have a point and that might happen in the future due to the fact that there will be an advanced technology that could beat Bitcoin. The real question here is when?. Our technology is advancing so fast that in no time we'll be in an age where the computer is everything.

If the betrayal is defined as selling their assets, then it is a big mistake. precisely the purpose of all holders is to hold and sell it when the price is high? what I applaud from the holders is that they want to hold it and still believe even though the market is destroyed

Well, if you will be asking me and considering the price movements that is happening last year up until now, I'd rather keep my Bitcoins in my wallet for some time now rather than using them. The value of them right now is still low and I can't loss another profit if I will be using them. Holding also helps since it reduces the BTC on the circulation.

I'm sure that the absolute majority of investors will give up Bitcoin if it completely loses its value. I see nothing wrong with that. We are all here in order to benefit from crypto currencies (of course, many of us are delighted with technology, but this delight is with technology, not with specific coins). If something more valuable and convenient than Bitcoin appears, the majority will begin to use and accumulate a new coin.
No need to overestimate the role of Bitcoin in our lives. This is just a step on the path to the development of crypto currencies, so it is impossible to attribute the word "betrayal" to people who are currently using Bitcoin, but in the future, if Bitcoin loses its value, they will start using another currency.

For every twelve, there is always a judas that's very synonymous with life, so it's shouldn't be new to us, even as we speak some many person's have pull out of bitcoin due to the bearish nature of the market now, but till death do me part, I stand with bitcoin.

Of course, its human nature but it wouldnt happen as quick as the OP
suggests "like the speed of light in a vacuum".

If it is to happen it would be gradual, not everyone will see or believe
the end is near. Look at 2018 and where the markets are now, some
have sold out believing the end is here but how wrong they are.

the crypto market is very unpredictable and requires special attention among all investors and those who have already failed on the exchanges. my opinion is that bitcoin will grow this year and up to 20 thousand dollars and will be on top.

Those who hold bitcoin will certainly always try to make a profit through the bitcoin investment they do. When they see the price of bitcoin tends to decrease sharply enough and allows them to suffer the risk of a large loss which in the end they sell the bitcoin they have is part of the investment strategy. There is always a price movement in every investment as well as bitcoin investment, and of course there will always be those who sell and surely there are also those who buy and there will always be those who faithfully hold the bitcoin they have for the same purpose namely how they can benefit through investment bitcoin. For me those who sell or even leave bitcoin and switch to other investments, it is not betrayal, but it is part of a strategy in an investment. And of course bitcoin will always be the best in cryptocurrency and in time bitcoin prices will definitely rise again high enough.

Seems like you are good in psywar mate,or reverse psychology lol

But this is one good question that enough for the pretenders here in crypto,those who keep on saying that they are a holder of bitcoin,but when theres a pice falling instantly panicking and selling their bitcoins.

But me,i will keep holding my bitcoin for another years before selling them off

I believe this is a typo, right? For I know the price briefly touched $20k, not $21k. Or did any exchange had it at that price? I might consider getting on that exchange. Please, do leave me the name of such exchange.

There is no such exchange platform will rise bitcoin of there own. It's just a typo. No need to think of it so deeply and it just happened on the year 2017. And actually it's just barely reached the $20,000.

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As for the OP, it will only happen if some random coin will be out for a while and have it an increased value larger than ETH. That's the only time to kill bitcoin on it's throne. Some traders as well as the markets will try to push that coin until bitcoin step down for being the number 1 digital currency.

yes, as we can see, the more here is the progress of bitcoin is very high. sometimes there are also many who are interested in bitcoin, even though prices are down, and that does not rule out the possibility that bitcoin is hated by people, because in reality many have searched for bitcoin.

Wow this sounds like there would be some sort of war between bitcoin dumpers and bitcoin holders.

There is really no obligation to hold on to bitcoin just because of believe everyone has the right to dump any time they choose to for reasons known to them and this won't mean they don't believe in bitcoin

I'm not going to sell all my bitcoins. But of course we all want to make a profit. I will sell some bitcoins when he grows up, but I will definitely keep some. After all, I believe that in the future we will be able to use bitcoin in everyday life and I would also like to be able to pay them somewhere.

True, When it has hit the all time highs I always cash out!
Only the bag holders  will be left at the end..

I think we will still get a lot of new investors in the coming years. Surely many of them will soon leave the market after a profit or Vice versa fail. But I also think that a significant number of people will stay and hold bitcoin for a very long time. After all, there are already those who hold bitcoin from the first days of its existence.

Typical invertors would let that happen because all investors want to gain a profit on what they invested and its not only bitcoin but in cryptocurrency. The loyalty of the investors depends on what potential profit that can give to the investors and how big they can make from it. I know some people who holds more even the price of bitcoin increased upto $20,000  because they foresee the upcoming higher value on it and gives more profit to them.

I'm on the side of common sense. All bitcoin holders are adult conscious people who certainly know where they invest their financial flows. It is important to understand that the way of bitcoin is very winding and there are many obstacles and barriers.

it is either you are a holder of bitcoin or you don't have bitcoin. i see no reason why a holder of bitcoin will betray bitcoin as the options are simple. either you hold bitcoin or you sell itto another holde who finds it more convenient for himself as an investor. the worst that can be done is selling it cheaper than supposed but then in such a case, one will have himself to blame.

Well when there are something better or more valuable than Bitcoin then people will find other coin, people are looking for the best coin to invest, so whenever there are chances to make more profit they will trade another coin, so I agree one day people could betray Bitcoin

not all . there will some remain because they will give respect to bitcoin  . they wont forget that bitcoin once gave them a better life .  sure they would try those new coins but they wont totally dump bitcoin as long as it is still profitable or as long as it still alive and kicking  .

i think there will be no coins better than bitcoin  because it is the superior crypto  .  there will only be new tokens that can be created thru ico and new forked coins but they cannot beat bitcoin .

you are right about this, I also have that same feeling that someday some bitcoin holders will get weary of the bitcoin fall in price and will dump it. But then i will say it is their loss if they do. For me i will hold my bitcoin no matter what happens to bitcoin price

if one day a dump occurs when high prices seem to have become something very ordinary because they also need money so they will sell the bitcoin to attract profits that can be obtained from the increase in the price of bitcoin, but don't be afraid they will buy again because they want to try get more profit from bitcoin.

You need to change your name to Dutch van der Linde  ;D

Never give up for all bitcoin holder, you can keep get profit because I have check always bitcoin could be on higher price, every time bitcoin could be raised and have higher price.

Well its quite common for hodlers to take what side most benefited them, we have our own way of thinking and we cant coerce anyone to follow us.

In my case I will stay whatever the market status is, I just go with the flow and ignore those who cant help me to become firm with my decision. If you are not just after money and you believe in the future of bitcoin then continue to hold because good things will happen after the correction.

You are missing something and that is ,if a bitcoin bag holder dump all his holdings people are the ones to buy the dump ,its literally just means of changing owners ,its not that bad as you think for a coin that's already so strong like bitcoin

based on your rhetoric, i think that'll happen only in a state of panic when everything - like ALL financial markets will crumble - or like in a doomsday type of scenario. that's fear of the unknown and you're scaring yourself.

in a regular economy, i think bitcoin works just the same way as fiat works. buyers will hold while some will sell. you won't hold it forever although you could but not everyone will do that. some will naturally sell some at one point because it's meant to be used!

it's natural for currency to flow through the economy; it's used to purchase goods and services and bitcoin and other crypto too should flow through the crypto-economy via the buying and selling of goods and services. it's a natural cycle. so your doomsday scenario could happen but only when all markets collapse due to a disaster of biblical proportions

You raised a valid point but I disagree that most bitcoin holders would betray bitcoin.
If you had said some, I would not have disagreed  with your assertions.
I believe those that will betray bitcoin in the future are those who do not have confidence and do not believe in the huge potentials of Bitcoin.
I am an ardent believer of bitcoin and Cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin if we see it as a tech, I doubt we will betray it, because it thought an easy way to transact online.
On the investment side, that depends on the market situation, when the price dump maybe it will cause a lot of panic but as long as there
are still people who are using bitcoin, I doubt it will be eliminated in the internet.

This is a big time innovation for our digital currency, from centralized to decentralized, so it should succeed.

It seems to me that whales are every man for himself. And the enemy is different. And for the above, coordinated actions of all manipulators and large holders are necessary. From all countries. It is unlikely that this could be. Everyone will pull the blanket over himself and try to shove the rest. Of course, you can create temporary alliances ... but again, the market is too international. Therefore, it is very difficult to control the BTS. (as opposed to some shitheads where the masters want the course to be manipulated).

Of course, this will not happen as quickly as the OP suggests. Even if there are real reasons for in order for Bitcoin to disappear forever, it will still happen gradually, in several stages. Whales will not allow Bitcoin to disappear quickly, as it is not in their interest. They will need to sell their bitcoins.

But the most important thing is that now there are no prerequisites for the collapse of Bitcoin.

I don't understand why some people have problem with hodlers. Everybody is not obligated to do what market whales want to do. They live in this crypto-community by their own attitude and not driven by the others. That's all it is.

They think that due to this hodlers the price is not moving but actually they dont know how the market is moving, Holding is one type of investment option which big players are doing for long term and they dont see daily as they know after certain time their investment will surely be x number of time profit giving.

Yes, you are correct, and don't be bothered by it because it's a free market. So being a holder doesn't have any obligations to the ecosystem. One thing though is that there are one group on the opposite side of the spectrum, they wanted people to used bitcoin as what the original vision of Satoshi is, as a payment system.

Bitcoin funded every "crypto."

It has been attacked for 10 years and still does what it was built to do.

Go value whatever you want but maximalists will exist as long blocks are being solved every 10 minutes.

HOLDERS OF LAST RESORT.

It's not betraying if someone starts to sell his bitcoin for the benefit of him. Why we are holding bitcoin? let's get real on what everyone thinks of bitcoin one day in the future. Everyone thinks of a better value and price of bitcoin in the future and when that time comes, you'll see many people starts to sell it as they/we will be satisfied with the current pricing. You aren't betraying bitcoin if you hold until the end and you can't just make a reference and call selling equal to betraying.

well, that may not be said to be a betrayal, because after all, they will definitely sell the bitcoin they have because of a need. in fact, even people who have a lot of bitcoins will use bitcoin for other things.

I just thought how to be able to benefit through crypto currency investment, for that if bitcoin is not yet possible to be able to get a profit, of course I will switch to Ethereum or other coins which in my opinion have great hopes of being able to get profit. And when bitcoin looks like it will be able to provide benefits, then I will switch to buying bitcoin, the fact that in investing everyone will always try to make a profit through the investments they make and will always see which of the coins is able to benefit, it is not a betrayal but it is part of the investment strategy.

I am not a fan of BTC. I understand that BTC has a number of problems. And this is an outdated cryptocurrency.
On the other hand, I am a fan of cryptocurrency. I see this potential. And I see the opportunities that cryptocurrency gives us.
BTC will die, fact. Nothing lives forever. But cryptocurrency is an idea. And ideas don't die.

They are coming true and in fact have already happened so many times, people keep dumping their Bitcoin the moment they saw they are losing their investment, this is the reason why we have this very low Bitcoin price and it will continue to happen.

You foresee? Do you mean you have some kind of psychic powers such as seeing future things before it will happen to existence? :o Woah that's a really creepy talent man LOL jk. ;D
As what I see you are just speculating on things that might happen to Bitcoin someday and I don't think that it will happen in the future because Bitcoin is one of the greatest things that happened to the internet and its technology is one of the best.

Too much speculations regarding bitcoin and in my own opinion we are not betraying bitcoin but in reality we are the ones betraying ourselves by creating FUD on this unique technology that is for free. No matter what we do bitcoin and its fundamentals will always be part now of the digital technology we must always keep in mind that bitcoin is only a segment of the blockchain technology. We are now in the age that artificial intelligence is moving forward because of blockchain technology. I guess the first thing to go will be the internet before the blockchain technology or I mean the blockchain technology will replace the internet.

That's hardly possible because, even if all holders suddenly decided to sell today, they price would go down enough to attract others who have been waiting to get in. Supply and demand is at work, as long as there is use for BTC, there would be demand and that in turn keeps it from "disappearing" from the market. Which is why I'm also not afraid of "whale dumps". Sure it will make the price fluctuate, which in turn makes it attractive. Same way as too fast a rise in price makes it unattractive and the price has to correct itself, quickly or slowly.

In the long run BTC should slowly (not quickly) gain value, because its limited in supply, and because more people know of it and want it.

Well I like your idea but OP has also different point of views. Base on my understandings that when bitcoin reaches the highest peak or go high a bitcoin will holder will going to sell and that is why OP has stating about betrayal. Actually it is not betrayal because this is not consider a drama. Cryptocurrency is a system for you to earn and in every business if you can make a profit already then you have to do on what is right.

Haha, it has happened now, bro, many have betrayed Bitcoin, for me those who manipulate the market causing unstable markets are real traitors because they don't think of the rules contained in bitcoin, they are like parasites that use this bitcoin decentralization system

I can’t really see that the people who choose to sell their Bitcoins are betraying Bitcoins. If they made a profit from there sale, they will most likely think about making a new entry point next time bitcoins goes on a longer bull run.
Bitcoin are made to be used.

strongly agree with what you say in your opinion on investment in crypto currencies investors must be clever to take advantage of every opportunity we will get in making a profit

Not only getting and reselling currency in their country and spending it and returning to look for it by following anything in this forum to spend it again.

If you have faith in bitcoin or any crypto, you will not give up on it. You will keep your faith that one day, the price of bitcoin will soon to rise again. As what happened way back 2017. The one who give up on crypto are the losers. LONG LIVE BITCOIN.  ;D

I will wait until the bitcoin price recovers. And this must happen, because this technology must be used all over the world. I truly believe that.

For me in particular, I strongly believe that bitcoin holders will not betray bitcoin because they know what bitcoin is all about,thus,they won't like to loose their precious digital asset.on the other hand, bitcoin has come along way in the past.Bitcoin has been subjected to every form of adversity and test,yet the hardcore holders never betray bitcoin at that time even though people never believed on bitcoin in the past. So,my point is ,if the hardcore holders never betray bitcoin at the time the world is ignorant of bitcoin, I don't think they will betray bitcoin now big companies have been working round the clock to trade bitcoin futures.
The hardcore holders are even preserving their bitcoin, waiting for the time bitcoin will hit $200000 to reap their reward knowing fully well that the prediction is achievable with small amount of bitcoin in circulation.

This is already happening, because the price of bitcoin is very slowly recovering and many do not withstand such pressure. But the true holders are still here and continue to believe in bitcoin no matter what. I'm one of them :)

I really like the idea of cryptocurrency technology and I would love to use it. And this belief helps me not to lose hope and continue to hold bitcoins despite all the price fluctuations lately.

Now in bitcoin are those who continue to believe in it. And I think that our expectations are not in vain and in the end we will see the cherished green market. And when the number of investors will increase again.

Many people are already betrayed bitcoin last year because their expectations have failed them .

 the price drop dramatically because btc hodlers sell thier coins at a loss and they totally betrayed bitcoin but some of us will remain to continue on what we have started  . I wouldnt ever betray bitcoin just because it dont recover for a long time  . i will only betray it if ever it turns out to be a huge bubble and scam us all  .

Bitcoin holder must be looking for profits and they will sell when the price getting higher. I dont think bitcoin come to zero because its real investment. Cryptocurrency and bitcoin market will survive for long time and i think it will be good for bitcoin holder

There will be more traders and investors who betray bitcoin and let them so real bitcoin enthusiast who have better understand about its potential and want to change the financial world for better can buy and make profits from such people and that is how the market works for any potential asset because there should be people who sell with assets for lower prices for others to buy and make profits and I know most understandable investors are waiting for that day until the rest betray

Maybe maybe not its an individual choice to make but i think the true holders wont give up rather i see it as an investment package hold and sell its good enough to make some good profits i hold still not betraying thanks

Bitcoin is not only an investment in cryptocurrency, it is also a blockchain technology. I think bitcoin will not be sold, those who have it, because it will be used as a convenient means of payment.

Those who sold their bitcoin last year were just small time bitcoin holders. Those who did panic selling will not affect the market cap of bitcoin because big time investors bought those bitcoins. The betrayal thing is not expected to happen to bitcoin in 5-year period.

If this day comes it will not be the holders betraying Bitcoin. It will mean that Bitcoin is not relevant anymore and did not make the effort to stay relevant. So some other crypto got in the way and become number 1 in the list of cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin already does not offer as much as some other coins, and the fees are not small. Bitcoin should make the effort to stay relevant otherwise this day will come sooner than we think.

Well, I believe that Bitcoin has grown so big that now it is the only thing that could destroy itself. Most of us are involved in speculation activities but that's not what Bitcoin is all about at its core. We must realise that Bitcoin has larger benefits to offer when using it as a payment system but we are not giving it a first priority which is a barrier in the growth of the crypto industry as well as the utility value of Bitcoin.

Personally, I will remain neutral, because I'm just observing the whole thing about crypto space at present. The only thing I believe is time will tell, but I don't think bitcoin will perish in short time.

I think that bitcoin still has a lot of loyal investors who stay with it even despite such strong price fluctuations. Although no one knows how bitcoin will develop further, maybe it will finally die and then we all have to be disappointed in it.

I think investors will remain loyal in bitcoin whatever happen to the market because they already gain from it since the beginning. Bitcoin is their business and they will not do betraying it.

I still prefer to be optimistic and believe that bitcoin is not dying, but simply experiencing a temporary crisis. The price will rise, I hope so, and so still remain committed to bitcoin.

To be honest this is one of the best posts that i’ve read here till now. It basically explains everything in very simple and clear way. Crypto market is literally profit driven and that’s an important fact, we can’t deny. For myself, i can say also i am a long time holder and i still believe that the market will be much better in future.

I think, in any market investor must be want to realizing their profits. Its very normal if investor selling their coin when the price reach their profits target. Some investor think long term and some think for short term and its very normal in any market or investment instrument.

To be honest, any Bitcoin holder or any coin holder for that matter will probably give up their coins one day.
It's because of the insane profits they are probably going to get, or seeing their money go down a waterfall lol.

In the end, if they really believed in the coin, they would at least hold some pocket change or put some of their profits back into the coin but I doubt it.
I would just run with the money and be done with it, but I still believe in bitcoin as a digital currency for the future, and some other coins too.

Just because of the big money it got popular in a very small time period, if it hasn't got such feature and serves similar to the traditional fiat none could have taken into consideration for usage. The demand keeps increasing as people come to know about the market and the profitability. In this regard, even if someone betray automatically the next set of users will travel for some time period. This will continue as a chain and such betrayal won't affect the bitcoin market and the network.

True believers of Bitcoin and the blockchain technology understands that this technology is the future of the world financial system and they will never betray bitcoin by selling off their coins. Once you believe and understand the purpose of something, no matter how things change you will still believe in the ideology of it. Those who sell off their coin are the people who are just in for the profit and have shallow mind about the crypto space.

How could you assure and say that Bitcoin holders will betray Bitcoin in the future? As for me, it is not. Because if they are truly a believer of Bitcoin crypto currency they will not easily let go of it but rather keep on using it because that would be our future in terms of financial and payment methods.

Of course, this will ever happen and I don’t see anything special about it. Cryptocurrency can be considered one of the types of business, and it has its own rules for making a profit. Bitcoin needs to improve and maintain its competitiveness, then it will always be the leader of cryptocurrency. People will use only the cryptocurrency that will be beneficial for this. Bitcoin in this regard will also not be an exception.

I agree with you although I do think that those who will start dumping Bitcoin because in their opinion, bitcoin is valueless are those who never believed in the potentials of bitcoin.
As for me, I will be on the side of those who keep holding no matter what is happening to bitcoin.

If ever the time comes that bitcoin will be surpassed and left behind by other coin, we can not deny that some investors will shift to other coins with more value than bitcoin, but there are also investors that are loyal to bitcoin and continue its suppprt for bitcoin , but the thing is could it really be happenning to bitcoin, I think that bitcoin will also find some innovations and technical improvements of bitcoin to prevent this negative things in the future, to stay as strong and number one coin.

yes I agree with you, not about who comes looking for profit and then leaves, but about who survives when the problem comes. because bitcoin has taught us about high loyalty and solidarity. however the condition of bitcoin we must be able to accept it and support bitcoin to be better in the future.

when someone sells bitcoins that they hold, I we are not a betrayal. well, indeed sometimes people stop using bitcoin for a while, but that can't be called betrayal, because buying and selling in bitcoin is normal. even when they sell at a cheap price. I always think like that.

Long live bitcoin, till now I don't think that sathosi nakamoto didn't think about future when he created bitcoin. Not all altcoin has real royal users but there are some which already have it but those royal users also Bitcoin royal users. People will not betray bitcoin because when they do it then no cryptocurrency that is trustable, any cryptocurrency will be useless. So people should become royal bitcoin users.

I think that you've personified the BTC maybe too much, like i understand that this is a coin in which all we believe that it's gonna have a great future and we hope that it's gonna rise again soon, but i think that all the people who work in this crypto world are more interested in the profit they can make and if BTC will be the one to solve their problems with gaining money then they will be loyal to Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is not a person who can be betrayed. It's an entity for some people it has value and for others it doesn't. It's operating in a free market where people buy and sell based on their opinion of it. If you think people are betraying bitcoin when they sell then then that patronises their opinion which they are free to express.

One day that will happen, even allowing new technology to be more effective than bitcoin. Because the development of technology is fast moving and changing, bitcoin has been present in the community for 10 years and mining will soon run out in the next few years, so it will make panic among the miners to earn less income. So, it's true that you said that.

There isn't any need for bitcoin hodlers  betrayal as it featured many viable properties and characteristics such as store of value, means of payment, trading it as a currency etc while many hodlers adopted it based on it usefulness thus bitcoin has come to stay and gaining more ground and hopefully in the next ten years btc will be well accepted.

If the price of bitcoin continues to fall and bitcoin holders feel threatened by the huge losses they can receive, of course they will eventually discard the bitcoins they have and switch to other investments that they consider capable of giving them profits. For this reason, so that bitcoin is not abandoned by many people and not betrayed by its holders, then bitcoin must be able to prove itself as the best crypto that can indeed benefit every holder. Because if a lot of people believe in bitcoin is finally lost because bitcoin is unable to fulfill the wishes of the holders, for me something is natural that someday bitcoin will be abandoned or betrayed by its holders.

Agree. There is no need for being a big fan or enthusiast here. Bitcoin is just a perfect tool, useful, long-lived, decentralized and so on. It is used by everyone, for saving money, for making deals (https://cryptodetail.com/10-ways-spend-your-bitcoin), obviously and inevitably. We just don't have anything better by now, with such a long history.

I think bitcoin will be betrayed by its owner himself at the time when the bitcoin is of no use anymore and is no longer used and makes his life destroyed

I had read some article that soon all Bitcoin will be mined already. What happen after that?  BTC will end there or still it will continue even no more miners, but I hope can transact when that times come, bitcoin is very useful

if the price of bitcoin is not good i think the bitcoin holder will betray bitcoin, because of the down price it will makes the holder and investor will stressful so i think for right now we should keep the price of bitcoin

There are many opinions that can think of Bitcoin nowadays because everyone doesn't feel happy with the price of Bitcoin today. Only can see something new that appears to make a big change back later.

Profits decide the mind. Currently most bitcoin owners believe that Bitcoin will bring them benefit

Bitcoin holders might betray it one day and that is undeniable if btc heads to hit zero because no matter what no one wants to loose there investments but it is something impossible to happen because bitcoin as a currency has a limited number of supply which significantly controls its price value not to decrease further so if bitcoin demand level doesn't decrease immensely there is no other way that it will loose its value of its holders   

Of course most of the holders are not happy with bitcoin prices and some are stuck without any choice because even if they sell there is a huge loss but I think even this current drop of bitcoin has a limit because bitcoin as a currency has a limited number of supply which really help to control its price level by avoiding significant drops so anyone who hold bitcoin should continue longer hoping things will change in the near future for the betterment of bitcoin

isn't that already an ordinary thing because that doesn't only happen with investments using real-world investment crypto currencies that will do that too

I think that the short term investors are already out from bitcoin and cryptos but what might concerne us is the fact that we still have a lot of big bags of bitcoin holders so this can drive the price in the next bull run.

I don't see anything terrible in that at some point the Bitcoin holders will sell them. Bitcoin is a technological breakthrough. At the moment, nothing new has been created that would overshadow this. But if in the future something real, more important and interesting than Bitcoin is created that will be of great importance for the world, then it will be absolutely normal for all of us to be interested in a novelty and in the course of time Bitcoin can turn just into history.

I think this is a natural thing if really there is no price for bitcoin they will throw away and make a bad oponi for bitcoin, and on the contrary they will make a good opinion for bitcoin if they make a profit. most people judge bitcoin because price is not because of the breakthroughs and technology created.

  Well, I suppose it's a kind of an overstatement. I believe that BTC holders will still continue to promote the coin

I think that stress is true, but if you betray we never know. because we also cannot predict the circumstances at any time so everyone's thinking is certainly different. because sometimes bitcoin goes down they are sometimes confused and panicked. while to avoid this, they back away from bitcoin. because it's no longer able.

People Holdings bitcoin for different reasons, Some of them were holding the bitcoins because of the fact that they were looking to make money in the short term or long term so they don't care much about the technology behind it they will sell it when they reach the desired profit and some other people holding bitcoin because they believe in technology and they want to see bitcoin as a future of payment system.

Bitcoin is known to have much potential. Though, bitcoin is experiencing it’s greatest fall at this time but it still remains the most trusted. So, about its holders betraying it, I don’t really see that happening. I only see it holders spreading their tentacles and acquiring other coins, simply because of the current thread in cryptocurrency in general.

We have gain trust from investor as well as from the community. And so,  there is no reason that bitcoin holders will betray instead,  they could be more stronger and may gathered more investors.
Only those hopeless individuals will leave crypto and bitcoin. This is one of a great investment and people love as it satisfied their needs as well.

Short-term bitcoin investors see prices continue to decline, may shift their investment to altcoin. But they did not leave the crypto world.
They all wait for bitcoin to rise again to become the most sought-after digital currency, and will invest in total.

bitcoin will always offer a success, so if we don't follow the flow of technology we will be left behind by the advancement of technology.
 so the success enjoyed by bitcoin investors is a natural thing considering the initial struggle of the founders of crypto currencies,
 anyone who wants to keep abreast of the times, we must always make observations from this digital currency.

A lot of people are weak when it comes to these kinds of matters, however there are holders wherein will hold their bitcoin relentlessly on what the situation is, now those people are definite holders, they have trust in BTC and know when to sell off, a lot of holders know the potential and that is why they do not sell their holdings, not just yet, they wait for the perfect time to make profit out of it.

it is investment, not betrayal, and in my opinion it is a natural thing, not an insolent thing ... as simple as that, are you going to hold an item with no value?
we must learn to accept, that in this world nothing is eternal, so is the world of Bitcoin.

If bitcoin fails all altcoins will fail ,if people betrays bitcoin then it must be because of a newer ,better coin but still that can't kill bitcoin because we will still see new investors buying it while some are dumping it ,I guess its far from dying now,would have believe if you said this 4years back

Well, I think betrayal is not the word or term for it. As an investor, it would be normal to go after those coins that give you better returns and you can get for better value. If, one day, Bitcoin goes under and newer coins would replace it in the top of the food chain of the coins in the market, then it would only be normal for people who once held Bitcoin as the best coin to go after those newer coins that could grant them better returns. Same thing is true for the market, in general, if one finds a far better investment that can give better returns, then it's some may stay, but some may also try to get a breath of fresh air and move on to such new market. It's just the way things work in business these days.

What exactly does it mean they will betray it? Every investor is looking for the best investment that will give him profit. Today it's Bitcoin, tomorrow some other coin or asset but this is not betray. But this process is ongoing, some investors come, some investors leave but the issue is how are you thinking, long term or short term and what is your final goal. Not all investors will quit Bitcoin at the same time and to my opinion there will always be enough investors and users to keep it alive.

Bitcoin will always be sold and bought. If by selling it means being betrayed what else can we sell to profit when FOREX are the most liquid of all market. Bitcoin holders will wait same thing with what you do in stock market, you wait til your opportunity to profit in selling is there.

Yes, it will be logical to switch to another cryptocurrency, if everything is over with Bitcoin. BUT I don’t think that this will ever happen. This is very unlikely. How many years it has kept, there were ups and downs, but people still invest in Bitcoin. While the idea is alive, Bitcoin is alive too. So I know exactly which side I am on.

I don't think that all bitcoin users are holders, moreover even though they sell it doesn't mean they betray bitcoin?
everyone wants to profit in the bitcoin market right? so please be understand, if they sell and affect the market

This sentiment will occur if the crypto currency has reached its best era, there will be many important things that arise from various altcoins, and on the other hand, fiat also does not want to experience a decline in trust.

But I still believe that currency resilience and trust will continue due to historical factors and growing experience, so that bitcoin will remain a priority for all its holders.

Amazing so you have that kind of foreseeing the future, you have a premonition that many will betray bitcoin one day. Same as with the stock holders that have seen good money on their stocks.

They have to sell so that's not really a betrayal and no matter what the price of bitcoin I'll remain a holder of it and will keep on investing.

       Everything is about profit. Those who invest on the reason that they love technology, they are lying. The investment involves a sum of money that will generate profits in the future. This also applies to the Bitcoin investment. It is normal that when you feel that you will not have the benefit of withdrawing your investments. But the investment in Bitcoin is a long-term investment, and I think it's a great currency that in a few years will reach $ 100k.

First thing that drives the interest of most crypto users here is the ability to make profits. People become loyal to a coin and hold on to it because it as the potential to generate profit. Once that belief is no longer viable and the coin sees a continuous decline, investors and holders begin to sell off and look up to other coins on the market.

There are people who have completely lost faith in Bitcoin and they think it's a waste of time and money but I have seen so many people who still have hopes. They are sure that bitcoin value will get back to normal like it was in 2017. Most of the business mindset people know that it's all about being patient and I think they are right. It's funny how so many people bought bitcoins when their prices were high and now they are trying to sell them when prices are lowest. These are all just business tactics; one time the prices are low and another moment they are the highest. So I think Bitcoins users are never going to betray it no matter what. They know it will turn around any moment.

Most investors buy Bitcoin for the sole purpose of getting rich thanks to it. And it is quite justified. Under the conditions of our life, money is needed in all its spheres. Therefore, people have no choice but to constantly try to earn as much money as possible (but of course there are exceptions).
As long as Bitcoin will have value and it will be possible to earn money with it, people will hold it. But as soon as Bitcoin runs out and a new opportunity appears, most people will sell it. In this I see nothing wrong, this is life and the search for gains for the sake of survival. And it is impossible to call betrayal.

No one will betray as long as the market gives a positive response. Bitcoin is a merchandise product where prices always go up or down, in line with trade law. Depends on supply and demand.
So when the bitcoin holder leaves bitcoin, it's not a traitor but waits for the price to improve so that the trade becomes passionate and profits can be obtained.

I think there are many types of users and investments in bitcoin, many of them have different characteristics, some investors are easily panicked, impatient. some other investors strongly believe and are ready to hold with any conditions. this is a reasonable drama from the bitcoin market, thats why prices always go up and down, I don't call it that holder betray bitcoin

Indeed it will be if Bitcoin will not maintain its competitiveness. This is quite logical. We should not serve money, but money should serve  us. Bitcoin is still one of the forms of money, the original means of payment and all the laws of the market apply to it.
Cryptocurrency is constantly evolving, we do not know where tomorrow this development will lead us. People will constantly pick new and convenient forms of financial settlements.

I truly believe that everyone  will betray bitcoin sooner or later. The problem is that all the 'benefits' of bitcoin don't exist. They are not secure, transactions are not fast, and they are not anonymous. Their decentralisation, which was one of their selling points, worked so badly against them that they heralded potential chances at centralisation (thus making them even more pointless).

They were moved from a 'budding technological breakthrough' to a 'store of value'. Unfortunately they don't have any store of value - their value comes *solely* from the hope of them selling them to someone who hopes to sell them to someone else who will hope to sell them to someone else. Eventually someone will be left who has nobody to sell it to. Once you heard about them globally, you had already missed the boat.

I don't see it that way, mate, perhaps only the ones with inadequate knowledge on how Bitcoin works will sell off the Bitcoin and leave. I rather foresee huge number of investors joining the Bitcoin investment some few years to come. Governments are gradually accepting cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. Central Bank of India has authorized cryptocurrency and eventually, China will lift the ban on Bitcoin and this will cause a rise in price of Bitcoin.

- Exactly, one day people will give up bitcoin because as you say, it no longer benefits them, it only brings loss and despair, why they need to continue to maintain patience and hold it, we should look for another place to invest and make a lot of profit, which would be a more reasonable story. And this is not a betrayal, this is a story about benefits, this life is need of reality and need money, if Bitcoin has destroyed our belief with it, not even bring what we want and we have no reason to continue to stay with it

It is the normal think,one thing we can look at this time there are different types of people in this crypto market.when Bitcoin price decreases,they buy it.
anyone who wants to get more profits as soon as their buy it.
More cases are seen with the decrease in bitcoin value then they are started investing in other coins.but my opinion Bitcoin value increase/decrease depends on the investment trading everyone people.

I do not understand why you see holders in such a negative light, it seems that you are forgetting that bitcoin is an investment and if they are holding their coins that is because they are expecting that they will get some profit out of that behaviour, you cannot really expect that they keep their coins forever and that they do not use them while they have some needs, it is obvious that at some point those people are going to sell their coins but that is fine because when that happens that will probably mean that there are a lot more people adopting bitcoin and they will be willing to buy those coins.