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It occurred to me today that with the market in this fragile state bounty hunters could end up ruining bounties and having this opportunity closed off to them in the future if the dumping continues as soon as the tokens are released and an exchange begins trading. The coins just cannot handle the dump at this time with the market so low and everyone so timid.  The projects will find a different means of promotion as paying us in their tokens will no longer be an option as it would harm the project to much.  

Thoughts?

firstly, hunters do not have so many coins that would be hard to dump. in the second, investors themselves will be dumped to a greater degree. because you can get 20-30% profit and re-buy at the bottom. and the bounty will not die because it is essentially a cheap labor force, it can get tougher by the rules but it will

I agree, in this market it is very difficult to collect money and the project for which it is necessary to raise money will not give the last money for advertising in other sources. and it's easier to make a bounty because they do not lose anything in case of a failure. And for many projects on the token the world does not hold, they use it only as an instrument in their platform and on the pricer they spit

the main idea of it will remain the same even if it is not called "bounty campaign". these shitty ICO coins have been the same for a long time even before ICOs were even a thing. they created premined altcoins then "airdropped" a lot of tokens to random newbies who then dumped them on the market and some bag held and some hyped it up desperately trying to make profit....

so don't worry about it so much, as long as the altcoin market is a pump and dump market and there are gullible newbies who fall for these schemes there will be airdrops. and there will be a lot of people who will dump them as soon as they receive them because they are experienced enough to know there is no future for these coins and they just last for short term.

With the current market situation, bounty hunters have faced their share of payment woes, but your reasoning does not stand true, as the need for bounty hunters will not subside but increase accordingly.

I think this is related to the cryptocurrency market. Now that the cryptocurrency market is in a downturn, many participants may be lost.

When you are engaging in a bounties campaigns you are promoting the developer coins. And you will surely be paid with the coins at the of the campaigns am not sure there will be an alternative payments to that.  Is left for you as a bounty hunters to select a credibly campaigns to participate in which will give you a reasonable returns at the long run.
The bounty programs can only get better though some modalities can be apply at times goes on.

i think dumb price because more than 1 factor....
And 1-2% alocation fund for bounty, i think not enough to make the token price dumb.
If that happen, surely just 1-2 weeks. After that price will be back to normal (if big investor not brutal selling)

I agree with you, I am also a bounty! Now it's hard to make bounty, ICO scam or so, the price is reduced too! So sad!

Obviously people do join bounties only for them to get some money and they don't usually care about that project and what that future holds. They are just in for the money.

The low price of Tokens should not be blame for the selling of tokens by the bounty participants because its only 1% to 2% of the total tokens sold are being distributed  so it is definitely not to big that the price would be in its lowest price (usually below ICO price). Usually hunters received their payment more than 1 to 2 months after the tokensale so it is not really the hunters but the market it self especially now that we are in the bear market.

I have noticed that most of the bounty campaigns that I joined that is scheduled to be delivered as of this month has been postponed due to the current market situation. The life of the token totally lies on the team whether they release the token now.

i think the same way too, with the fall of market, many holder token (not only bounty hunters) did panic sell and make conditions more worse.

many join as bounty hunters are not legit, they simply see this is a way to get free coin and dump to the market to make more money.

they have no interest whatsoever to really promote the ICO they join in.

All that you said is true, but it is actually the developer's own problem. If they can use BTC or ETH to pay these bounty hunters, their own coins will not be sold. But for them, the cost of paying for hard currency such as ETH or BTC is a bit high. How to pay the bounty in what way is a problem that needs to be solved urgently.

It is not fair to blame it all in the bounty hunters. Every ico or commonly ico only offer like a small fraction as a reward. Recently I see like 3% or even lower are allocated to rewards for bounty hunters. Most of the investors often blame bounty hunters are the main cause of failing ico when in reality we only receive a little fraction of the ico.

It's seems like that but in other way they are also plays a vital role in making the projects successful and hopefully for the bounty hunters they recognized the effect of early dumping even if it's below ICO price.

I agree with the above.Bounty participants do not have many coins.Not everyone wants to sell at a too low price.Bounty is very cheap for the company.

it is the nature of these tokens and nothing you can do about it to change that. anybody who has ever received one of these tokens or anyone who has bothered to look at the charts of the previous ones knows well enough that they all will get dumped big time and that means as soon as you receive these tokens you must sell them because that is the highest price you will ever get for these kind of token.

I think this matter is very sensitive. Since we don't know what is the movement of the project owner about promotions. ICO always allocate bounty pool in their target market plan and token allocation.

A way in which the projects can prevent massive dumping by both investors and bounty hunters is to lock the tokens for a X period of time. This wouldn't be a bad idea. Or pay out the investments in parts, so bounty hunters cant get it all at once and dump it in the market.

Bounty participants should not be blamed when a bounty campaign fails. if 1/100 tokens are dumped, how should it affect a project. Meanwhile not all participants do dump tokens given to them, this means that not even all the 1% of tokens are dumped.

I do not think bounty hunters are responsible for the increase in rate which tokens are dumped on the exchange since most projects allocates a little percentage of the total tokens for bounty exercise. Rather, the high bonus percentage which projects give private investors is one of the reasons why tokens are dumped on the exchange.

Now is really a difficult time for projects and, accordingly, for bounty campaigns, as it is very difficult for projects to raise funds under such market conditions, but I do not think that campaign bounties can disappear at all, because the funds allocated for their holding are relatively small. The market will recover, and everything will fall into place.

I agree with this statement , because there's no really such reason to be blamed for bounty hunters if what ever happened in the campaign.  'cause bounty hunter works only  on a campaign to promote the project, and in fact mostly didn't contribute on it for the progress which is the reason of participation is just to earn free tokens. So there's no way that bounty hunter should be blamed when there's a failure in the project.

If selling coins by bountyhunters hurts the project it is not fault of bountyhunters, it is fail of project. Because if market can't redeem this little amount of 2-3% of total coins this means that market is not interested in project or it is not ready to buy it for the current price because it is too expensive.
Also this type of advertisement will not die - it is free for developers and will always be in demand

This is true. I think that bounty hunters should stop being so greedy and selfish and not think of themselves for ones, but think of how their decisions affect the market condition of these tokens. They really need to cut down on this rubbish thing of always selling off their tokens immediately them get, and realize the effect that it has on these ICOs.

Dump is not caused by bounty hunters, their coins are just a little % of total so if a coin fall is not their fault but the bear market conditions

In my own opinion they have come up with that realization it is because of false hope. They cannot even decide it well and they cannot trust anymore it is because they have seen a low form in the market. Well that is a flow because in the market it needs a lot of strategies so that you can ride on.

As soon as the token will be listed in exchanges, bounty hunters would immediately sell their tokens in order that their hardwork will be paid off, we all know that this is just normal nowadays, because of the market situation, and we cannot blamed bounty hunters at the same time. My only suggest is that to lock up for some time the majority of tokens percentage.

The 2018 market is not good and the overall status of all ICOs after being listed at any major or minor exchanges has fallen. These bounty hunters are difficult to dumping because total bounty tokens only 1% -2% of total tokens. There is no better choice than bounty, you can't find thousands of people around the world working for you at a very cheap price.

bounty hunters do not want to sell their tokens cheaply, if anyone considers bounty hunter to be the cause of an ICO's loss then that person has been wrong in thinking, I think people who think bounty hunter is detrimental to a project cannot count well, I think bounty hunters are workers who are often treated unfairly.

Bounty is usually less than one-tenth of the total amount, and most of the time it only accounts for 1-3% of the total. How does this affect the entire project?

If I am going to run an Ico I will still launch a bounty campaign, one they are most cost-effective way to run a campaign, you will have to pya thousands dollar worth of Bitcoin and ethereum , these advertising company will not accept ICO' token to launch their campaign only bounty hunters will do that.

I think the projects handler sure know this threat pose by Bounty Hunters and some are quick and wise enough to arrest the situation. Some would have given it out to those who invested weeks before they give it to bounty hunters, that way, investors would have known what to do with it weeks prior as they know bounty hunters are sure coming to disrupt the market. Another could wait till most of the bounty hunters have dumped their coins after been given before they list on good exchange. So many way to get the Bounty hunters. I do not see bounty coming to an end because of this.

I think bounty's not going anywhere. Still, this is a good way to advertise your project. Probably the conditions will simply be tightened. The team that is serious about their project will find a way to make it develop normally and with the coins of this project, too, everything will be fine.

This 2-5% rercent of ICO bounty budget and hunters can dump price only in short term mean 1-2 month maximum and many other reasons can dump price:bad market,investors not believe and not buyers only sellers,project not yet complete they product,i think will need only lock bounty and airdrop tokens for all ico maybe to 1-2 month after ico end this can help to prices rise and not dump just started in exchanges.

Bounty hunters are not the problem. If you give away too much of your coin to bounty hunters then that's also a problem.

Yes, that's true, but it doesn't hurt too much. I just feel upset for all the prices of tokens that I have are so low. As a result, I can't sell it. Hopefully this will not continue to happen, and I can't if this continues.

Well, today, there are growing bounty hunters that follow the bounty campaigns. Many bounty hunters have their token rewards. However, some new bounty hunters may come in not good time as like this recently when the market is so bad. They get the tokens or coins with the very low rate on the exchange. It leads them sometimes to sell away their coins as soon as possible although in the low price. This is forced because they have entered in bounty to get money. But, I think it will depend on bounty hunters. Their decision may give small influence of the dump coin prices.

For me, i still believe and interested join and participation in bounty campaign, eventhough the market is not in good condition. Nowadays btc and most of altcoins in the market have already in the lower price and just increase slowly. So many projects that offering different coins make the new coins too difficult listed in the exchange or listed with small price. Because of that team and developer of the projects must active and use strategy to make their coins more valuable. In my opinion, joining the bounty campaign just to fill my free time and hopefully can earn money from that. If the coins that i get have not already valuable , so i just wait and keep it in my wallet until it can give advantages for me.

Shit ICO is the one ruining bounties and a contributory factor of the recent deep, hunters immediately sell their token if there is already an exchange, they grab the opportunity when the token has listed in a certain exchange because it is seldom to have due to overload scam ICO.

no of course bounty hunters get only 2 percent of all tokens, which is very small in fact, and I believe that if the coin is worth it, it will not be strongly dumped

bounty allocation is very low compared to other token allocations and it is goes to thousands of bounty hunters and the dump or the effect from those tokes for the token value is negligible for most of the ICOs.
Before bounty hunters dump on exchanges, ico investors dump because of this market conditions. token value can be controlled by the strong ICO projects, those projects dump some what but bounty effect is very less.

Well, it is quite possible that this will happen, but I think still with the fall of the market, many bounty hunters will simply leave the crypt and gradually the ICO will again begin to need them.

I think it's till fine to do a bounty campaign. we could collect our reward and keep them in the wallet and wait until the price is good to sell those rewards.
So there is hope that bounty hunter will also get enough income from doing a bounty campaign.

I think also like that all projects do not want to pay the bounties after their tokens enter the market for fear of dumping the bounties if they do not want to do so, do not use the services of the bounty
Boutny hanter also works costs like electricity and internet

no, I do not think that this will happen and I'm sure that a new wave of HYIP will soon come to the market and everything will be fine

People have participated in bounty companies even when the market was much worse than now, I do not argue that bounty hunters became too much. But we are to blame for this. Made a bunch of channels in the telegram, filmed a video on YouTube. Themselves invited a bunch of people, and now cry that too many participants in each bounty.

absolutely right and it is very risky in the future, maybe now they are still experiencing ease but in the next few years something difficult might actually happen :-\

Small workforce that was helping a project to be successful. Maybe not that they hurting their selves because they have their own budget to be payed of. Maybe it would be hurt for them if the project didn't pay them as they work as a project workforce and labor for a month or above. Well that's life there is no easy job though. You must work full force for you to profit.

I also hold this opinion. This sounds absurd when they say that because of hunters, the price of a token falls. And I also think that the bounty will exist as long as the ICO

Many bounty hunters doing this as their main job, so they need money to sustain the life. They will sell any tokens they received to fiat, so, you can't say that :D

Bounty hunters as you rightly said dump immediately token is listed but when you look closely you will believe with me that they are not the actual cause of the price drop. Many things are involved here, the current market condition, the team, private investors and the hunters are all responsible for the dump, so don't blame the hunters, I have seen many projects that locked bounty tokens for months but still the price is below the ico price, so tell me who are the cause in this scenario. You don't have to worry about the if you truly trust your project as a team

not a bounty hunter mistake, but the strategy of the project if they are smart, they can arrange a dump from a bounty hunter so it's not right so enjoy it ;D

Then they should have an option for bounty hunters to take 70% or 50% to bitcoin or Eth after the bounty campaign, most of the participants will definitely go for that option and some people that see its true value will prefer to have the tokens instead but no I can rarely see those campaigns that offer like that that's one of the resolutions if tokens are not an option up to this point or you can try campaigns that pays weekly with bitcoin.

I agree but I think it is just because the market is still in chaos. Maybe sooner when the market will return to a good state it will go back to normal, so maybe we will just bear it for time being until it goes back normally. As for the bounty hunters we are  still here to promote project but the problem sometimes is some project were scam.

An interesting theory and quite understandable, given the current situation of all bounties and bounty hunters. But I still hope that nothing like this will happen. Unless somehow the market will be restored and all projects will simply act in the old way, without being afraid of all further manipulations.

It's up to bounty hunters what they do with their tokens, personally I normally hold mine for atleast a couple of months. If the coin doesn't like bounty hunters dumping then they should pay in ETH/BTC.

I do not think that. The hunters have put a lot of effort to promote an ICO they have to get back to that reward. An ICO without a marketing community has a very low success rate. It is not possible to blame hunters completely because I think the bottom line is that the application of the ICO is practical or not.

Bounty budgets are usually 1% of total supply. Can anyone serious think that with 1% you can influence the price of a
token long term ? Bounty hunters have the right to with the rewarded  tokens what they prefer, some hold some dump them.
When dump happens, It is always a good opportunity to buy cheap tokens if it is a promising project.

You can't blame the bounty hunter , they don't have much coins to be able to make the market dumb , this is just because the market situations a downturn .

Bounty hunters are for the most part idiots thinking short term, spamming, cheating and then dumping their rewards...
If they keep on with this shit, projects will look somewhere else for promotion.

The bounty allocation for bounty hunters is so small to affect the price of an ICO. The one who dump it are the investors and the team of the project and blame it to bounty hunters. That is why they don't want to pay Ethereum and Bitcoin to bounty hunters because it is easy to notice who dump their holdings.

bounty will live, but with the arrival of people here pay a penny and will remain the most enduring

Bounty hunters should not be blamed when a coin price dumps, unless the project leaders allocate 50% to the bounty hunters their dump is meaningless. Pre-sale investors are the ones you should point the finger at

There have always been discussed measures to avoid dump, but the developers just don't care much or think it doesn't affect them enough, sometimes the number of bounties are not even 2% of the tokens that the ICO takes out, so I think the problem is exaggerated more than they should, they can also implement the option to pay in another currency, that has always been on the table.

I think many project are not raising required funding for their project and this is causing a lots of short term dumping and selling pressure is definitely coming outside of bounty hunters. For the bounty campaign, there is nothing to worry about, this is crypto!

Even if Bounty Hunters are working at their own expense where they could not be paid worth coins based on cumbersome dumps as trading started especially at this Dip. I believe the Projects managers can not wholly gain at this instance trying to secure other means of campaign for their projects. They will still need these hunters. Hence, this scenario has to be shared or bored equally between the two parties is my submission.

Well that is the your perspective about this issue. I believe it is not always true that bounty hunters are responsible for price dump, I have participated in quite a number of bounties that woukd decide not to reward bounty hunters on time and still the price will still dump really bad. And besides, bounty rewards are usually between 1 to 2 percent of the total tokens sold, which I feel is not too significant.

i believe that dumping is a big threat to the industry of bounty hunting. but if you think of it, the number of bounty hunters are not that rampant as what it is after the merit system in the forum(because of the merit system, new accounts will have difficulty in joining campaigns) meaning, the chances of dumping will be lessen because most of the hunters remained are the ones with higher rank and understanding in the forum and the market.

I think this applies more to investors since hunters don't have that many coins to drop. In addition, I think that the dumping of prices is not due to the fact that the hunters drop their tokens so quickly. Look at the price of tokens after entering the exchange is much less.

I personally am not happy about the way bounty hunters dump their coins as soon as they get hold of their bounty tokens but since no one can decide for another person what he or she should do with his or her coins, it becomes difficult to talk about it.

I think bounty has come to stay, whether people hold or dumped it immediately after been released to them.
But this is very wrong assumption that between 1-3% of these tokens would crash the market. What are you going to say about projects with no bounty campaigns like DaoStack, 0chain, Hybrid etc that have lost more than 80% of their ICO price

There is no better means of promotion than bounty. It is unlikely to be abandoned in the future. In fact, if it's not a fraudulent project, then he shouldn't be afraid that bounty hunters will lower the price of coin after going markets. Because if the project is good, then a small drop in price will not harm it.

You do not really understand how this works right? The icos do not really care about it, they are getting all of that promotion for tokens that have no value yet and those tokens were completely free for them to create, there is no better way to promote their project and if that means that investors lose money then that is just the way it is, this is a free market and you accept the risks that comes with investing in coins with nothing behind them.

What makes you feel bounty hunters are the only ones that dump and that investors do not dump. As a matter of fact, considering the pool that is allocated for bounty, i do not think the token would dump. There are even times that bounty hunters hold what they have.

I bet the current state of the market is the reason why most projects are failing to cash out their bounty tokens to hunters. Most hunters, like me are very desperate to obtain their bounty tokens. I would advice dev team of projects should be considerate when it comes to payment of bounty projects. If they do not wish for their token to lose value. what about they consider locking the token for some period of them after distribution to await the recovery of the market

In my case it does not really hurt. Because I only do bounty hunting as partime job. Also for my investment in cryptocurrency, I have used my extra money and knew that losing sometimes is part of the deal when investing.

This have always been the case at times, Most of us hunters Dump our tokens immediately after receiving payments, which is not a good thing to do. Unless you do not believe the said project has a future in the market, free to sell them

How then to explain falling of a coin after a vykhd on the exchange when tokens for a conclusion of hunters are blocked. Who on yours sells tokens?

normally bounty hunters do not have so many coins to make significant dump on market. investorsare the pople who thingk that it will dump with the bounty token release and they can buy back later more tokens from the ETH or BTC if they sell before or during bounty token release.

I can hardly believe that 3-5% of all coins sold can shake the cost. If the project is good, then its price will increase after entering the stock exchanges, even if the entire industry is going to decrease.

I think the bounty will never end. This is the only working way to create advertising for the project. And the more so, bounty hunters do not neglect to participate in the bounty, since this is the best way to get the project tokens for free.

Not even the hunters dumped it all, if the project is really usable and supports are there the bounty dumped will just be eaten up, developers need to
have a good allocation funds and knows how to counterpart the situations, just like what you have said it is just a small portions of the entire market
sales so it wont hurt the value if its a real one and not just relying with pumped and dumped trading style.

I don't think they can handle that. All projects are planned in advance. They know that the bounty hunters will sell all their tokens so the project owners will buy all the tokens. They do not devalue and undermine the value of that ICO project, but investors are just buying their tokens at low prices.

This is especially true for all of those tokens that give huge bonuses to the people that invest very early, those people have no incentive to keep holding their coins because if they sell their coins at ico price then they will obtain 10% and in some cases up to 40% of profits just by selling their coins, in fact they can sell for a price lower than the ico price and still obtain profits, something that no one else can do.

The volume of bounty token is not enough to dump a project, I have involved in many campaigns that delay in paying bounty hunters and yet it got dump. Investors and even some project team that are not trust worthy are part of the problem.

Bounty hunters are not the one dumping tokens most times. We first need to know that there is no much confidence in the market and even investors are alway ps ready yo dump in other to reduce their loss.

Everybody in the game has the me me me mentality, they don't think far ahead otherwise we wouldn't see the huge selloffs that happen after most terrible bounties. There are a few bounty hunters that completely ruin the system for everybody, and may eventually lead to ICOs not running bounties anymore due to the massive risk of abuse.

On average a project only spends 1-2% on bounty campaigns, so bounty hunters can not influence market prices. And bounty hunters have worked to get the coin or token so they have the power to decide whether to sell or not.

I am sure that the coins that have bounty hunters are not enough to bring down the cost. I think investors themselves sell and underestimate the value of coins. The General state of the market and the project itself also plays a role.

All of us are facing difficult times in crypto space, indeed. But I would not blame bounty hunters for what are they doing. In my opinion, they have barely the power to move the price drastically. Some of us are not interested in selling tokens under the ICO price as well. Depends a lot. I would say that the irrational fear has infected mentality of investors and they are willing to short their tokens while playing a hazardous game of people´s attention.
Bounty hunters are (I think) doing their best to not let managers wipe out their stakes. Many of them spend hours doing some type of asks just to come with -90% what they expected they would have. Well, it seems like bounty hunters hurt themselves psychically by doing bounties, basically  ;D.

there are more recent news about the bounty hunter, the total supply allocation for the bounty is burned, because the project in the ICO period does not reach hardcap, their reason is to avoid dumping on the market, always like that the bounty is made a scapegoat

Yes I think so and we can't blame bounty Hunter because the price of crypto are always fluctuate and that's normal phenomenon in crypto world. Not all bounty Hunter sell their token immediately after they received the  token, a lot for them hold it because they are also want to get more profit.

Do you know how many tokens are given to bounty hunters? Of course that cannot be used as a benchmark that those who cause prices to be destroyed because only a small part of the total supply is available and remember that not all bounty hunters do what you think because I believe there are still many bounty hunters who continue to hold tokens from the results for a long time even more than 1 year so the project with a token fee will not experience a loss because the dev has got the results from the sale of the ICO they did.

It is already obvious that this is happening. So many stupid and not knowing people are just starting to bring down this market and much more. All the hayatt get easy money, think that here you can just come and rip off the jackpot. No one wants to work and understand how everything happens. I think that soon we will come to what will have to pay to take lessons in the bounty.

Bounty hunters are blamed of all of this because investors do not want to think that they made a mistake when investing in that ico, they prefer to blame those that they see as guilty of making the price to go down because they got their coins without paying for them, what they do not seem to get is that bounty hunters did not got those coins for free, they work for them so they paid for those coins even if they did not paid money.

It it is a promising project there should be a huge demand for the tokens and they will grab that 1% of total supply
 what hunters get. And I am sure hunters will not sell their tokens either (at least not all)

I actually agree with you. I think the bounty hunters don't have much influence in making the price situation on the market. It is precisely the top big investors, who can do a little price shift. It is unlikely that the bounty hunter affects prices in the market. Confuse! ???

  I think this question is incorrect. The organizers of the generosity company can slow down the flow of coins to the exchanges in many ways, they can enter the exchanges with a long delay after the end of the bounty, in a word , the rate of the new token can be regulated only by the team, the only exception is 100% issue of tokens to the exchanges simultaneously. After that, nothing but real supply and demand will be able to manage the new token.

I would like to see bounty programs weed out more of the folks who just spam social media. Quality over quantity.

Of course yes, but the market factor of being a dump is not always caused by the hunters, the most influential factor is market conditions, as the current downward trend is so strong that it is very influential on any altcoin including tokens that have just come out of ico.
currently there are new regulations, JR cannot join the signature campaign and this is good. because I think that most of them don't care about the rules.

I understand your concerns but the owners of the ico probably prefer to have as much publicity out there as possible, for them it is way better to have a lot of quantity even if it's very low quality than to have high quality but low quantity, I know that in a perfect world we will prefer quantity but since most icos are trying to obtain as much money as they can in order to develop their projects then they prefer to get as many impressions in social media so they can raise the awareness of their project among the community.

So maybe this is one of the reason of the delaying destribution of the reward  tokens , this may give favor to the investor and this is a good move for the ICO , though its the rights of all bounties to dump their tokens anytime when it is already sellable in the exchange so lets give respect to it.

Bounty hunters do not have what it takes to cause a dump to any project. I do not know, most times when a coin dumps, the first thing that occur to some people is that bounty hunters cause it. Whereas i have seen newly listed coins dump, despite bounty hunters not paid. Investors most times cause dump. They would dump all they have, expecting the price to fall more,so that they can buy back.

My dear OP, I just want you to understand that it isn't bounty hunters that dump but rather the investors. I am aware that some bounty hunters dump their tokens right after listing on exchanges but the fact is that the majority of dumps are from the private sale investors who are giving higher bonuses for buying the tokens. These people dump their tokens and invest in other projects. This is what is really happening.

The bounty hunters make money from the electronic money campaigns. But they are not always successful. They hurt themselves when pursuing the campaign without good results. I often see some non-pay campaigns.

the problem with investor are they can't wait to earn profit. they want to see their investment to grow right away. if the project is really promising then dumping of coins is not a problem because it will eventually recover. many bounty hunter do campaign for a job and a source for their daily needs and they sell if they got their reward. ICO teams can stop giving bounty but we know bounty campaign have good effects especially to projects that don't have background supporting them.

Stop blaming Bounty Hunters for coin dumps. The people who are dumping are those that bought in the private and presales because of the massive discounts. If you don't want to see your coin get dumped don't offer 30% to 80% discounts without adding a hold period. Bounties rarely exceed 3% of the coins sold and are mostly around 1%. That is not enough to drop the price. There is also nothing stopping companies from paying the bounties in Ethereum or some other coin rather than the tokens of the project.

Well, i do not attribute the entire dumping of a coin to bounty hunters although most bounty hunters contribute to the dumping. Remember, the tokens allocated for the entire bounty program of a most projects is just a small percentage of the entire tokens created (1% to 10%). The rest of the percentage is distributed across ICO, future use, team.
This should give you a clue that the team and ICO participants hold the largest portion of the coins and are the major contributors to the massive dump of a coin in disguise.

I don't see bounty programs ending anytime soon. But I like to choose bounties from projects that I believe in so I dont have to dump.

You are a bounty hunter, the signature campaign is a part of the bounty, isn't it? Then how can you say Bounty hunters only dumped? Bounty hunters get only 2% Of coins, right? Is it too much according to 100%? Do you think every hunter dump their coin? No, you are in wrong way as everyone says bounty hunters dump coin, don't listen, try to talk yourself first.

I think it's not like that. Bounty hunting is a previledge and as a bounty hunter you should be patient about what is and how much tokens and coins that is being rewarded to you. In the first place it is not a job, it is only depends on us if we accomodate our time doing bounty for full time or part time, but nevertheless we should be aware that the given tokens is only few percent of the project. It is stated by the project.

Let's wait for the bitcoin will rise in order to have a good project the investor needs a booming market for now patience is the key.

When the market was new and hunters were not much, the tokens or reward price was very good. But in present , there are so many hunters , so many coins an so many scammer which increases the hope of hunters from nothing. And hope is very dangerous thing.

I think they are, they expecting too much from the bounties they had partcipated ,  they rather be excited to receive their tokens and once they are, they gonna immediately dumped it, instead of doing it I think it is better for them to wait for another big exchanges where their tokens can be listed so that they can have bigger profits if it will be pump.

Those 1-2% who have the bounty hunter certainly are not enough to dump the price down.
The whales are currently playing with the market and duppen determined himself to buy tokens cheap.

Don't forget there are some also a bounty hunter who hodl their tokens more than 1 years because they see project future its nice . So not all you say is true. Some bounty hunter are still interesting and waiting project future their token.

right, I also feel everything you feel, the same sadness.
but we can't be one of the people who give up, because we are a bounty hunter then we must be able to understand the current market situation.

They only harm the fact that they are ready to take up work, I do not look at the amount of payment. Even $1 you give them, will still go to perform the job.

This is what we all should be mindful. A lot of the bounty hunters have taken bounties as an alternative since they couldn't found a job.

Those guys are not making anything look horrid when they do their advertising..they know how to make the money.

there is a project that doesn't use a bounty. we don't know what the reason. but if the more and more ico is failed, then it doesn't rule out the possibility that if one day the bounty will disappear. therefore, before all is lost we must be able to use it well to make a profit.

We are not sure if they would choose other option to pay bounty hunters but it is indeed possible. bounty hunters are the ones who are selling first before investors, because investors are looking forward in holding than selling immediately upon recieving tokens and as it is being listed on exchangers. If this would continue I won't be surprise that ICOs would choose fiat way or payment to bounty hunters.

I disagree. In my opinion, the bounty tokens are just a portion of the whole token allocation of the ICO. Thus, it would not have an effect on the coins price for long term. We always blame bounty hunters on the low price assuming that they are the ones selling, but if you check the order on the exchange, there is no way that all of the tokens sold are coming from bounty hunters, the volume is just high. Do the math before pointing your fingers. Just saying.

Till there exists ICO, there will be bounty campaigns. Many projects will fail and many will succeed but the bounty culture will keep continue because it's the cheapest and easiest way of marketing. Also I don't think ICO could be stopped, it's crypto they will find their way to the market.

It's sadenning that bounties hunters usually and have been receiving the blame each time a token dumps after listing while the huge private investors who receive bogus bonuses and dump once they can are never blamed. Most of the time bounty hunters usually receive their tokens weeks to months after the investors have received their and started trading it but the hunters still end up being blamed for the investors actions.

the bounty can not disappear, it's really cheap labor, some projects can not even pay what they promised, and then they blame the bounty hunters for destroying cops on the stock exchange, but that's not true, even if all the tokens to collect that have bounty hunters , this is a very small amount, but the project teams can ruin their tokens, so this will all live!

Well, they should continue, because that will make them not to be satisfied with what they have. They will continue to dump whatever reward they receive and it will amount to nothing.

Bounty hunters are not the only ones who dump coins, the investors in the coins dump as much as bounty hunters. The fact is that everyone is trying to make profit and to do that you have to take advantage of the best times to sell the coins. Bounty hunters are selling because they do not want to miss the best prices to take make the most money.

I think the most current allocation for bounty participants is around 5% of the coins created.
and that is very little to move coins into dumps.
all you have to know now is that the market is currently in a period of correction, so don't ever blame the bounty participants for falling coin values.

the bounty hunter is indeed often once things get that bad. because often the bounty hunter get paid late. even often also extended project. until they have to much longer do improvements.

Even though I do bounties myself as well, I prefer it if bounty hunters we get paid the coins say one month after investors, so that will give a chance a little bit for the new projects to start trading and as investors PAY money from their pockets, they should have first run on the exchanges. It is true that most bounty hunters dump. I saw this happen to money token, it killed the price as soon as it entered the exchanges, as all the bounty dumpers dumped everything. I think we should be paid for our work after the investors get their tokens, I think that would be a win-win situation for everyone, including the price as well.

I agree. And aside from that dump, there are also other ways a bounty hunter can ruin a project like making advertisements that is wrong information of the project, could be also dangerous.

The honest truth is that bounty hunters are not to be b;lamed in any of the problems facing the crypto market as regards to dumping. because these people work alot to promote the project with just 5-10% of the project token allocated to them. Believe me the Developers are the problem here because most of them tend to become greedy.

you can not blame the bounty hunters for dumping token because there are many hunters that do hunting as the only means of surviving and by the way even though bounty hunters dump token so also the investors  and their are hunters like me that do hold my reward especially when I see the project has alot of potentials. I have witness in the past where team and advisor of token deliberately dump token in order to bring down the price and the team denied it.

Without rigorous research, no rigorous selection or no compliance with campaign requirements, bounty hunters will hurt themselves when they do not get results.

Hunters dump but the team of the project can control this if truly they know what they want to achieve. I have participated in many project where bounty hunters token were locked for period of time to prevent massive dump of token and Also I have witness situations where dev do not list token on a centralized exchange except for idex and some other dumping ground and the bounty hunters were selling on this dex at very cheap price after a long period of time the team list token on good exchange and there were no dump because the hunters had already sold their token cheap on dex.

I believe it is not bounty hunters who dump token price, as after the bounty has finished, they hold only small amount of pool. Their people are investors who get tokens in pre-sale for a very cheap price.

I think the way out is for the project to pay bounty hunters with Ethererum or bitcoin to keep their coin from not being dumped. Some projects use the same method and  their coin survive and it is doing well in the market as we speak now. I can see how paying with Ether will harm their projects but it will protect them and their investors. I agree with you that the hunters attitude is bad and highly inimical to themselves. How i wish it can be controlled but how can you even tell somebody not to sell his token.

I think I have to disagree with the idea. I think this is how it goes, as a bounty hunter we may assume the token payments as our salary for the projects so whenever there is a chance to sell in a more higher value, a bounty hunter then will grab the opportunity. It is given that if there is a high price offer in the market, dumping will occur and that is not just because of bounty hunters but the holders of token in bulk. Let us take note that the allocated tokens for the project is not that high so the dumping technically is not due to bounty hunters.

Project pay out in tokens because they really do not want to spend much to achieve the promotion of their project and bounty is an easy way to go. So, paying in other digital currency defeats that objective. I would say the best thing to do in such scenarios is to either lock the bounty participant’s token for a long time until the market has developed to some certain extent.

However, let us not forget that bounty participants always have just very little of the total amount at the end of it all, and I would not say bounty hunters are the major culprits of driving down the market value, but would rather state that, this is an act of whales to just drive out the weak hands out of the market at lower price.

Bounty hunters will always just remain the smaller part of the puzzle and the bigger investors will always have the part to play when it comes to driving the price lower. Actually, this is because they are mostly after the little percentage that is available with some of the gullible bounty hunters who are weak hands as they tend to dump at a very low price since a whole lot of them usually do not take their time out to even know the ICO price in the first place, and for the fact that this is a bear market, it makes it so easy for whales to achieve, so in a way, anyone who is selling lower than ICO price is actually dumb and hurting him or herself.

As a rule, bounty hunters are paid not so many tokens so that they can destroy a particular project.  And such part-time will be alive while there is ICO!

Bounty hunters don't have much control as they have only 1 to 2% of the total bounty and not all hunter sell their coins immediately on listing. In my opinion, those who got a good bonus in pre-sale comes to sell their coins and it affects the price as they have a lot of coins.