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I was given negative trust by a legendary member named Vod.

It was given to me due to an opinion I had on the Flat Earth.  I'm surprised and shocked I would be given this negative trust for speaking my mind.  I feel like Vod is abusing his powers and attempting to shut down an opinion which he does not like or is threatened by. 

May I please have someone with rank and authority to look at what has transpired and advise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331

Thanks

Look.  If you believe the earth is flat, you have severe mental issues.  :/

You can't understand facts gathered over a thousand years - facts that you can verify yourself.

Can you understand what a contract means?
Can you understand your responsibilities in an agreement?

I am simply warning the community you are not wired correctly.  People can still deal with you if they take proper precautions.

I understand you think we live in a helio-centric world.  I do not believe what you believe as I have no solid proof.  All I can go on in my direct reality and that is that water is level and a vacuum cannot happen without a container.  I'm using my direct experiences in making my assumption and not appealing to authority to make my decisions.  You have decided to punish and insult me for my beliefs.  

It appears you have been doing great work in cleaning this board up of scammers.  Do you want to set the precedence on this board for negative trust to be thrown around every time someone dislikes an opinion?  I think this behavior hurts the forum in the long run.  

Your hurting people by doing this.

I make a challenge to you.  Prove the earth is a ball with scientific based proof.  Grab yourself the 10,000 challenge (I think its up to 50,000 now).  Leave the negative trust for me as I must be a looney.

If you cannot prove the earth is round and do not collect the 10k-50k in the challenge then kindly remove the trust. 

You do have proof.  The proof has been available for a thousand years.  You can verify the proof yourself.

Are you STUPID, or are you a LIAR?

Why the insults?

Your appealing to authority to make your decisions for you regarding the shape of the earth.  I'm using my direct reality. 

How about you show me your proof on earths shape since your very confident in your decision.  Enough so to insult and negative trust.

There have been many scientific experiments which prove we are not rotating.  There are also many locations on earth where the object your viewing should be behind the curve (8 inches squared per mile) and are visible.

Why does this threaten you so much?

Vod's opinion is that your opinion indicates a mental deficiency (something I disagree with - I think you're just a troll - but I appreciate Vod's warning nonetheless) and that you can't be trusted. That's really not a complicated concept. If you disregard all proof for Earth being round then (again - in Vod's opinion) you're likely to disregard e.g. proof of a Bitcoin payment.


Go to a large body of water (sea or large lake). Observe a ship. I did this when I was 8 or 9 so I'm sure you can do it.

It doesn't threaten me at all.  I'm just letting the community know you are a whackjob.  

There is no sense posting proof which has been validated infinitum a billion times over by people much smarter than I.  You can't understand it.  :/

Your appealing to authority to make your mind up for you.  We are all scientists.  Hence I am re-examining things and trying to prove things to myself.  

Your lack of evidence to support you helio-centric model + your insults towards me for attempting to think for myself as opposed to just letting the professionals decide for me is bad form.  You attacking someone for not taking the word of authority and trying things out on their own.  I never forced anyone.  I just laid it out there. What if all Bitcoiners just listened to authority?  The movement would never have begun.  

What if everyone starts negative trusting over opinions they disagree with.  I believe you are stretching the spirit of the trust system with this one.

I seem to be one of the first people you went after that were not outright scamming.  You have been quite busy cleaning the board of the scammers and I assume your arguments will be backed by the entire community as you have done more for the forum than me.  I just ask you one thing.   Consider not handing out anymore negative trusts for people opinions.  Can you imagine if we all start playing this game?  Then the scammers will be red trusting everyone for whatever reason just to get more stakes.  This post is setting the president for opinion based red trusting.

We will also stop learning at the point we cannot have differing opinions.  The opinions open the discussion and we can all learn from that.  

I will take my negative trust at this point and bow out of the back and forth.  

There is no lack of evidence.  There is no debate or opinion; at least not for 1,400 years.   ::)

Yawn...

Sorry one last one.

I'm talking about your evidence (as in Vod) not the authority your handing your power over to.  I think the Copernicus model is only 500 years old. 

I know I said I would stop.

If you see the ship "go behind the curve" in the ocean and it has totally disappeared it has only gone out of your perspective.  You cannot see forever!!!  

If you pull out binoculars.  POOF.  The ship will be right back in focus and view able again.  Not behind the curve.  It was just out of your perspective.

The proof you used to state your belief  in ball earth should now be voided.  This is why you must disregard this "proof from authority" and experiment for yourself.  Only when you see for yourself will you know for sure.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSVrfw3znds

I have done these experiments.  Hence my view and confusion on what I was taught.  NASA still says the boat disappearing over the horizon is the proof.  I believe Archimedes wat the first one who proposed curve earth due to ship disappearance.  he of course had no binoculars to test his theory though.

Water finding its level always is another direct reality you have which goes against the helio-centric model. 

Vacuums with out containers (where does space start) is also something that goes against my direct reality. 

I would have to disbelieve myself and my reality to take on what the authority figures and professionals are telling me. 

A photon will continue forever until it is deflected.   You will either see the ship, or something in the way.   You can see forever.

When the ship disappears, you understand it's because of the curve of the earth.

This is such bullshit and a false analogy.
Just because he has a different line of reasoning on things we disagree with doesn't make him a scammer.

The trust system shouldn't be used this way, if you want to you could leave a neutral stating that the user believes the earth is flat.

Leaving a red tag on someone just because you disagree with him is very wrong.

@joerogers8 don't engage in a discussion whether or not the earth is flat, you will waste energy on tilting windmills
the discussion should be, whether or not it's right to leave negative feedback to someone for expressing a dissenting viewpoint

Although I respect Vod and everything he's doing on bitcointalk, I believe this act is very wrong.

There is something called atmosphere.  You cannot see forever on earth.  Your vision is limited.

I have posted video above debunking your ship disappearing evidence.

I'm fairly sure you have have no idea if a proton can go forever.  How would you prove that?  Your spewing your authority figures shit again with no real evidence.  Your simply spreading something you know nothing about.    How about some real evidence that you have come up with through your own scientific experimentation?

I apologize for making this into a flat earth debate in the wrong section however, I'm being black balled and red trusted by Vod for an opinion and it appears he has not even researched the flat earth or the ship behind the curve argument would have never came up.  Its the most basic of all the fallacies to disprove.  

Vod you getting ready to come over to the flat earth side and give this a real look?

Also I do not believe in the flat earth. I have been wrongly stating it as it's just easier.  I have no real idea on the shape but due to my experience with water I believe it is more or less flat.  I have no idea for sure.  The highest balloon footage by us normal people show a flat surface up to 120k feet.  

I'm in a remote part of the country and trying to design a balloon with my son to see if we can get it higher than the other amateurs.  We are looking for evidence of either side.  If I see the curve I will post the evidence and fight the flat earthers.   Vod has basically said homeschooling my son is the blind leading the blind and I'm basically a stupid fuck for screwing my kid up.  With real science for fucks sake.  Maybe I should just tell my son how it is instead of showing him.  

This shouldn't be a debate about Earth being flat, but a debate on the abuse of the trust system.

I agree but it shows Vod is giving his "opinion", red trusting people for giving theirs and has zero proof or real knowledge of anything dealing with the subject.  He got triggered by flat earth for whatever reason.  Debunking his claims shows the forum how wrong he is.

What if I get pissed off here and start red trusting everyone opinions on the forum?  Hell I could do a couple thousand a day if I put my mind to it.  May cause a real cluster fuck if the newbies hop on board.  It should also be totally ok for this to happen based on the precedence shown here.  I wouldn't do that nor would I retaliate against Vod with negative trust as I would be committing the same crime as him. 

I feel that this behavior by a senior person absolutely hurts the board in a time that things seem to be in flux. 

Yes.  Your "atmosphere" is actually particles of matter that deflect light.  As I posted.   A photon will continue forever until it is deflected.

Physics prove you wrong, as millions of people have already shown.

How vain are you that you need personal validation of something that everyone else already knows?

For such a strong opinion you have I'm surprised you are unable to provide any scientific data which proves the shape of the earth.  It's fairly obvious that you cannot do this and are ducking.  

I also saw in the other post you have given negative feedback to other people discussing flat earth.  We can now see you are triggered by this.  It must be very threatening to you.  

The funniest part of all your big evidence was debunked.  The ship behind the curve in the ocean.  LOL.  Your an amateur son.  It's on display for all to see.  You are unable to provide proper evidence for your position so you resort to name calling and appeals to authority.

Scientific method dictated that your proof must be provable, repeatable and demonstrable.  Bring it.  We can move this to the off topic if you wish.  I'm here to show everyone you don't know shit about this topic, your simply spouting the bullshit that s been fed to you and then becoming triggered by the entire topic. Then once triggered you use the forum as a weapon to fight your cause.  This is detrimental to the forum and can create an entire new headache for the administrators as everyone hands out negative trust to anyone they dislike.  

Prove to me anything.  Other than you are a bitch that cannot think for himself and attacks people with different opinions.

Actually that's very applicable here. joerogers8 has blatantly lied above that binoculars would make a ship reappear from below the horizon. That's provably (with actual binoculars, actual ship, etc - not some youtube video) false.

It's not a stretch to assume that joerogers8 could lie in a monetary deal too.

It appears I cannot.  :(

Even if he's just a troll (which I, too, believe to be the case), Vod's logic still applies.
Someone who "goes on the inter-webs to fool people into futile arguments" is clearly not trustworthy.
Hence, negative trust is well deserved.

Also a valid assumption.

You can make the ship reappear when it disappears behind the water. It's simply going out of your perspective.  Once the ship is gone from your sight "perspective" if you use binoculars you can see the ship again.  It didn't go behind the big water curve.

Saying I will rip people off If state the obvious and give you a video to help you better understand that ships disappearing from view in no way shape or form have any bearing on earths shape.  It's outrageous.

Condemnation with out investigation is the height of all ignorance. 

I have seen no proof of what I'm being called out for,  Just jabs and ridicule.  If it's so ridiculous please help me out and give me definitive proof of a globular earth.  Along with an experiment I can do myself to prove it. 

I also believe this shows that Vod is simply attacking as he has no scientific knowledge on this and is simply spouting what he was told as a child.  There is no room for his red trust attack for this offense.  Vod knows what the red trust is to be used for and he is using it as a weapon when someone goes against his delicate world views.

It's a cowardly attack as he cannot debate the issue properly. 

No.


It's impossible because you're flat out (pun intended) lying about such experiments.

Yes that is how your eyes work.  The video clearly shows this.  Your eyes can only see so far.  The bottom of the ship disappears first due to perspective.  Everything goes into it's vanishing point.  The video clearly shows this happening.  Hard to believe you don't understand this simple concept of the ship going behind the water curve then you pull out binoculars and wham it's there again.  Your not superman.  You cannot see forever.  If your eyes were stronger than your friends and you were sitting on the beach you would see the ship disappear at different times.  Go to the ocean and test for yourself.  You take binoculars and use them and then have your partner next to you without binoculars.  Compare and see if the ship disappears at the same time for both of you or at different times.  This will prove the theory you have brought to me showing the earth is round is utter bullshit.  This does not prove earth is flat or any other shape.  It just proves your brainwashed and incapable of changing stance even though your fundamentals should have changed with this new information.

Your fighting a fight that even people in the science community agree on.  Anyone with 5 bucks for binoculars can prove it.  

Water is level.  I can look at a sink, lake, ocean to see this.

Vacuum cannot exist without a container.

You posted your bounty about the flat earth in "Serious Discussions"... What did you expect ?
Why not "Politics & Society" ? Why not "Off-topic" ? How is that $10k bounty to prove flat-earth in any way related to bitcoin in a serious way ?


So is this the kind of reasoning we should also expect if, let's say, you make a sale with someone ?

Do you understand that, consequently to your beliefs, we question your ability to recognize a bitcoin payment.

Yet, you have not experienced the bits going into your wallet, you didn't see it. Everyone tells you to go look on the blockchain. But what for ?
You do not "appeal to authority" so what exactly should we expect from you ?

"Bits are electricity and I can look at a motherboard, CPU, but the coin is not there" ?

Slightly off-topic,

I don't know if you had the chance to check the YouTube channel behind the $10k bounty. I have to say it was a really disturbing 30 minutes of browsing :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHMPXMWBrfA  ::)

Personally, would not trust anyone who has anything to do with this, how to call it...flat-out nut job.

LOL, right, this is quite a dilemma... Should I believe a deranged flat-earther or my own lying eyes.

But I appreciate your effort to make yourself look like an utter dunce and kudos to Vod for outing you.

Bitcoin payments have proof of transaction.  There is a TX id that all can see.  It is then confirmed by multiple people.

Give me your proof of a ball?  Why do you believe in the ball?  Your dumb ass cannot even give one shred of evidence for your belief. 

Once again absolutely nothing.

I feel bad for you.  Your a bit to easy.  Everyone else let go of the ship around the curve bs after it was debunked.  Yet you continue the fight. 

I work with a pediatrician who refuses to see anti-vax families. Her reasoning is this: Vaccines are one of the most, if not the most, solidly proven medical intervention that exists, with all the scare stories about autism and the like completely and provably fabricated. Vaccines are the absolute foundation of pediatric medicine. The amount of evidence supporting their use is staggering. If the family don't accept something that is so obviously a fact, then they won't accept things that are less clear cut, as much of medicine is. If I can't trust them to be rational, then I want no part in their irrationality.

This principle applies here. The Earth not being flat is one of the most fundamental pieces of scientific understanding on the (spheroid) planet. If you don't accept something that is so obviously a fact, there is no telling what less clear-cut things you won't accept. If you believe that every piece of evidence that shows the Earth is not flat is fabricated, why won't you believe that a blockchain has been hacked, or a transaction isn't valid, despite all the evidence to the contrary?

I completely believe in free speech, and so you are free to spam the forum with your ridiculous ideas. But Vod is equally free to call you out on them. I wouldn't have gone so far as to give you a negative rating, but I agree I wouldn't want to enter in to any dealings with someone so detached from reality. As trust is not moderated, your only hope here is to get Vod removed from DT. Good luck with that.

I would suggest that continuing to spam the reputation board with flat Earth nonsense is not helping anyone.

I was given bad rep from vod tooo !!

He think he can treat others like shiet !!

He has no respect at all !!'
Not good like this !!

Ehh, explain this then:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/936006123383021568/KY-RRo2D_400x400.jpg

If they are objectively spreading false information over and over again, then it is very much right.
To be case-specific: You have to be a complete nutjob to believe the flat-Earth bullshit; they are similar to the anti-vaxxers gang (although the latter causes much more collateral damage). On the other hand, you have to be a nutjob to willingly transact with a flat-Earth believer if you don't have to.

I think he is spreading false info.  Here is his record on negative trust.  Looks like there are over a hundred of us.  If we are serious about cleaning up the forum I believe this should be looked into.  

dewmist   2018-09-24   0.00000000   Reference   User is abusing forum rank and handing out negative trust for personal reasons.
dominusnk   2018-09-20   0.00000000      Liar and scammer harmed my trust telling lies
Red Fish   2018-09-16   0.00000000      Very low intellect, not to be trusted in any ways
OpenCryptoSystem   2018-09-13   0.00000000      What he think who he is?
I did not touched him !!
I do my own business here.
He labeled me as spammer but im not i work with many partners together and my partners are all happy with my work. I feel sorry for this Kid..
God will punish him one day!
polonez   2018-08-14   1.00000000      Amazing forum member! Strict, but fair!
asche   2018-08-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod red tagged me.
After contacting him he told me to take the debate to the public, which happened in the thread in reference.

Even another DT took my side on the matter, but Vod never reacted again on my contact attempts.

I do not like the fact that Vod closes the way to communication and thinks he can unilateraly decide like he does.
xolxol   2018-08-07   1.00000000      IDIOT VOD,ONE OF THE FUCKERS IN THIS FORUM.

HE DOESNT TRUST ME BECAUSE I AM TELLING THE TRUTH BEHIND DT MEMBERS.

VOD IS A TOTAL MORON,TOGETHER WITH THE PHARMACIST.
Exploit01   2018-07-30   0.00000000      A usless Troll F.B.I wannabe
Anduck   2018-07-29   0.00000000   Reference   Vod is dishonest and untrustworthy person. He lies about me and provides no proof/source/evidence of any kind for his claims.
He started harassing me when I did not remove my negative rating towards him and when I told him I don't specifically trust him.
After this, he blackmailed me, wanting me to remove my rating, and when I didn't, as a result he proceeded in the attempt to trash my reputation by leveraging his. Targeted harassment done by anyone is never acceptable behavior. Avoid doing any business with this person.
svennnny   2018-07-20   0.00000000      Scam buster excellent user we need more of those.
TradeFortress   2018-07-09   0.00000000      Harassment.
digaran   2018-07-08   0.00000000   Reference   Handing out positive trust for unknown reasons, I don't know why did Vod tagged actmyname with green trust after actmyname countered his valid negative trust? fuck me.
rcbclub   2018-07-01   10,000.00000000   Reference   strange ,just i got a negative feedback from Vod (Newbie with three posts asking to hold collateral for loans) .I think that fucking man against newbie and it is guseable he borned from his father penis and from his mother mouth.Before add my signed message he did his great job.Mothercode one Vod.Fuck your mother.
melina152   2018-06-28   0.00000000      He is a great person,a real person.I like him ,follow his activity.A solid man who is against scammer.Keep it up.
cryptoaeronet   2018-06-28   5.00000000      Great scammer.Do not trust this guys.
poutintsev   2018-06-21   0.00000000   Reference   Giving fake negative trust to people.
megatrend66   2018-06-17   0.00000000   Reference   This person is a likely book licking psychopat! Look at what he does all day! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

He ruins our business WITH TWO UNSUBSTANTIATED NEGATIVE TRUSTS to feed his excuse for existence while we give free knowledge to the community!
xSplit   2018-06-15   0.00000000      This guy is a pedophile and is trying to hide it

https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XS_Z6rZVnVMJ:https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255
zephyr_designs   2018-06-09   0.00000000   Reference   Misuses feedback
lswong   2018-06-08   0.00000000   Reference   Simply feedback negative trust for new member without warning or explanation to new member.

Brainless Member !
yokxashor   2018-06-07   0.20000000   Reference   WELL KNOWN PEDOPHILE! EVEN HIS EX COWORKERS REPORTED HIM AS A FUCKING PEDO. SEE THE REFERENCE LINK FOR DETAILS. HERE IS HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT https://twitter.com/lawrence_tech WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE REAL FACE OF FUCKING PEDO, WHO IS HIDING UNDER THE NICKNAME OF VOD HERE ON THIS FORUM.
redditguy   2018-05-25   0.00000000   Reference   Looking for reasons to give negative trust
szafa   2018-05-25   0.00000000      Negative.
Maurumedia   2018-05-23   0.00000000      Fat fuck trolling my shit.
Edal_JR   2018-05-21   0.00000000      Liar, with bought trust !
xSplit   2018-05-19   0.00000000      Shitposted my reputation for no reason beside his arrogance
octusnw   2018-05-19   0.00000000      is a scammer
emre1542   2018-04-11   0.00000000      Because we can basically talk stupidly to random people and no one would care about if we were right or wrong.
white.raiden   2018-04-02   1.00000000      Copy/Paster
Marrionbitcoin   2018-03-27   0.00000000   Reference   Vod is just giving away negative trust and asking for a donations. I don't who gives you the power to just give a negative trust and ruin our accounts. Also, pay attention to your posts that are not constructive and nonsense.
CreditSpecialist   2018-03-23   0.00000000      Telling me im "ripping people off with stolen documents." for no reason. Not reasonable legendary member for sure.
freeppleman   2018-03-20   0.00000000      scammer and spammer
Danos   2018-03-15   111,111.00000000   Reference   Proven pedophile and ponzi scheme scammer.
Check his untrusted feedback really well before trusting this guy
KurangKerjaan   2018-03-12   50.00000000      STOP FUCKING AMBUSING RED TRUST TO ME FUCK YOU
may142012   2018-02-27   0.00000000   Reference   Already got denied and locked the asking for loan thread, but this guy merciless gave me a negative regardless, fuck you.
BitcoinHome   2018-02-25   1,000.00000000      Bad man, painted the trust red for what I wrote to him in PM and asked for help
TheLordDSK   2018-02-25   0.00000000      Giving negative feedback to everyone he doesn't like, think every newbie is a potential scammer, shittalking fan, pedo and a fat perv who seat his ass on his mom basement watching tits and bitcointalk 24/7 year after year, fapping at underage girls pics. Can't believe he is still free and not in jail. Ignorant staff members trust him, everyone else hate him.
alia   2018-02-20   0.00000000      An invaluable member of BCT who is vigilant for scams and helps warn the community. Thank you!
heirinch   2018-02-10   0.00000000      Begging for merit
std1391   2018-02-04   0.00000000   Reference   negative trust only for asking check out my post?
so cruel!
more2much   2018-01-31   0.00000000   Reference   Gave me a negative trust for asking for a loan
TheWinnerBro   2018-01-30   0.00000000      Not going furthur into the matter and without knowing anything, he has given me a negative trust
BiiT MAster 666   2018-01-23   10.00000000      Sent nagetive feedback for nothing
Serenity_financial   2018-01-22   0.00000000      Call everyone scammers, without even explaining why
btcpepa04   2017-12-18   0.00000000   Reference   this men leave me an error feedback iam asking for loan
its not scam only asking for loan i said escrow not other sent
i heat this user he saud ###

Asking for loan for obvious ponzi. Recent history of questionable posts.

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This list goes on for quite a while.  Please check out his profile and see if you believe this is an asset to the forum or if he needs to be looked into. 

Breaking news: Busted scammers sometimes leave retaliatory feedback! Forum shocked at this revelation!

Are you seriously trying to use retaliatory, non-trusted, negative feedback (which is in 99% of the cases objectively false) as an argument while replying to a user which is one of the top contenders for the highest number of such received ratings? :D

Read them!

Go to the flat earth off topic thread and check the trust rating from all the people participating in the conversation.  I'm not the only one who is being unfairly targeted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.0

Vod  if you can prove the idea behind the movie matrix is true the world could be flat. Or any shape.

If you can prove the idea behind the movie matrix is false  the world is most likely round.


Since both you and I know you can not prove the matrix to be false or real  you might consider lifting his red trust number.

My take on it is I choose to believe:

 the matrix does not exist
 that what I see is what I get ie round earth
 that it does not matter much one way or the other since I am only making a guess as to what to believe

You begged that JM to give you merit, Vod? You should have known better.  >:(

Your picture is photoshopped. There are no stars on picture and t-rex has much smaller hands.

I am sorry to tell you, but you have been brainwashed.

It's clearly a velociraptor you heathen! And there are no stars because he ate them, duh.

That is what they want you to think.

This is weird to me. The earth is Not Flat dude. There are tons of proof.

1. the existence of moon and how we perceive it
2. horizon!
3. Just by verifying the stars location
4. shadows of buildings or even sticks on the ground

I will give you a few articles to read. I don't think anyone in their right mind can deny this:

1: https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round#page-12
2: http://crosstalk.cell.com/blog/seven-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round
3: http://theconversation.com/how-to-reason-with-flat-earthers-it-may-not-help-though-95160
4: https://www.vox.com/2018/4/28/17292244/flat-earthers-explain-philosophy
5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WjyTV98lg

Good luck bro.

You should change the thread title to something more accurate like:

"I was given negative trust by member Vod for being too stupid to understand reality and would like help"

Part of the problem in society today is that we allow self incredulity to be passed off as opinion as is exampled very clearly with our OP!

This thread makes me laugh. I remember when one of the NBA Superstar also believing that "Earth is Flat" AFAIK it's Kyrie Irving.

YES! The Horizon. If the earth were flat it wouldn't exist. duh.

We could see for miles and miles. Oh wait, oh no! The fog will prevent us from seeing beyond the horizon. That pesky fog that always seems to block our views of the rest of the earth! Its a Fogspiracy! I tell you its the Fog that's behind everything bad.

I personally think that people who truly believe the earth is flat need a negative rating and to be locked in a psychiatric hospital.

I left you positive trust some time ago based on a pattern of logic and intelligence. I wonder why people are not going apeshit over that opinion?    ::)

https://i.imgur.com/59eCBpS.jpg

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Where do you draw the line between an "opinion" and something that is objectively a lie?

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Note: Picture may not be completely accurate, but you get the general idea.

You have rights to your opinion!!

But why its so important to know if the earth is flat or not??

To be honest i dont care !! All i want is to smoke my sigaret drink good wine...or good whisky, and counting money and making money and thats it.


I dont care about politics , flat earth or laws.
This flat earth not important for me


Why we even talking about this ??

I think we should appreciate the fact that the OP himself told us that what he is believing is just an "opinion". It is hard for a flat earther to say those words as they really think that the Earth is flat and an existence of a circular earth is just what they call a fiction for them. But I agree to what others have said that people who are believing in a flat earth have severe mental health issues, because for one you won't even be a flat earther if you are open to facts being given by normal people. A flat earther simply denies the science involve to prove a fact and will just simply believe to what they think is real without any logical explanation behind it. With that being said I too am with Vod if he doesn't trust any flat earther in the forum.

The problem with believing in a flat earth is deeper. If you are not familiar with what they believe, they literally think space is not real, all the other stars/planets, everything is a lie and a hoax. They think gravity doesn't exist, some of them think the sun is small and close, others (notbatman) claim the sun is a holographic projection and it's not just fake, it's a hoax made by some unknown group to ''control us'' and keep us away from God. There is no end to their fabrications, when you believe that almost everything we know is a complete lie, you are certainly mentally ill.

People who can think different ways are dangerous for others!
If we undestood one thing what is wrong we will undestood about whole picturee, that will lead the world in to complite chaos.
In order to maintaine peace we must keep some % of population in complete stupidy :)

If we dont there will be massive civil unrests, waking ups , and wars !!
We want quiet and nice life so we have to keep others in stupidy :)

So thats why is so important to say someone is grazy who is waking up.

Im allready waked up my mind is aware everything, but i dont care about to spread my knowledge for free !!

I use this knowledge for my own good :)
And thats great feeling i feel like i am god :)
Many wolfes who play game that they are stupid lambs are funny to me watch :D

I dont care about this truth, more wrong and fraudlent everything is the more money guys like me can make :)

If you wake up dont shout this to the world.... just keep the knowledge yourself and use this for your own good.

Oh believe me I somehow am familiar with the situation that is why I have said they are not open to facts and is close minded about the whole debate. Also they are here reasoning out that this whole Earth being rounded is a one big cover-up being done by the government in order to fool people that there was a moon-landing, satellite stations, and other space projects that never really existed and is just one big hoax done by the government. If that is really true I don't know what really is the motive behind it if there is one, hearing it from a flat earther is a crazy thing to absorb in your brain.

They have their own flat science in their fantasy world.

Problem with flat earthers is they don't believe in scientific proofs nor any kind of proofs. Whatever you do, they will say it is made up, video is fake etc and they will troll you with their nonsense. As OP is flat earther, no matter what evidence you give them they will say it is not true,  therefore 10,000$ offer is not real or valid, not to mention number of people who are lured into this discussion. This isn't really something to discuss. It is like discussing is red color red or green.
It is green, end of story  ::)

there's an easy way (but very costly) to prove the earth is a 'ball'
go sign up, pay the fee and hop on SpaceX program, I think that's the name I heard in the news
you will go on a trip in a rocket spaceship and will be able to see the earth from outer space :P

It is rocket in studio. They won't leave studio. Try harder  :P

SpaceX will fly Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa as the first ever private tourist to the moon (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/18/spacex-japan-billionaire-yusaku-maezawa-first-tourist-to-fly-to-moon.html)
I first saw it on tech news on tv but there are already a few online websites with news about it
are you saying they are not actually going to launch the real spaceship to the space?
I'm a bit confused now :-[

I'm confused if you're being sarcastic about marlboroza's sarcasm.

http://i66.tinypic.com/aww4uw.jpg (https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/93d0xu/first_moon_landing/)

How can you be so sure yourself that we aren't just living in a computer simulation like the matrix.  Even notable figures such as Elon Musk and Neil Degrasse Tyson believe we are living in a computer simulation run by aliens.

That mean that the earth doesn't even exist in the first place.

They say it's possible - which it is.  We can't prove we are not.

However, we can prove we are not living on a flat earth.