I was given negative trust by member Vod for an opinion and would like help

[qwk]

Vod's opinion is that your opinion indicates a mental deficiency (something I disagree with - I think you're just a troll

Even if he's just a troll (which I, too, believe to be the case), Vod's logic still applies.
Someone who "goes on the inter-webs to fool people into futile arguments" is clearly not trustworthy.
Hence, negative trust is well deserved.

you're likely to disregard e.g. proof of a Bitcoin payment.

Also a valid assumption.

[joerogers8]

Vod's opinion is that your opinion indicates a mental deficiency (something I disagree with - I think you're just a troll - but I appreciate Vod's warning nonetheless) and that you can't be trusted. That's really not a complicated concept. If you disregard all proof for Earth being round then (again - in Vod's opinion) you're likely to disregard e.g. proof of a Bitcoin payment.

This is such bullshit and a false analogy.
Just because he has a different line of reasoning on things we disagree with doesn't make him a scammer.

Actually that's very applicable here. joerogers8 has blatantly lied above that binoculars would make a ship reappear from below the horizon. That's provably (with actual binoculars, actual ship, etc - not some youtube video) false.

It's not a stretch to assume that joerogers8 could lie in a monetary deal too.

You can make the ship reappear when it disappears behind the water. It's simply going out of your perspective.  Once the ship is gone from your sight "perspective" if you use binoculars you can see the ship again.  It didn't go behind the big water curve.

Saying I will rip people off If state the obvious and give you a video to help you better understand that ships disappearing from view in no way shape or form have any bearing on earths shape.  It's outrageous.

Condemnation with out investigation is the height of all ignorance. 

I have seen no proof of what I'm being called out for,  Just jabs and ridicule.  If it's so ridiculous please help me out and give me definitive proof of a globular earth.  Along with an experiment I can do myself to prove it. 

I also believe this shows that Vod is simply attacking as he has no scientific knowledge on this and is simply spouting what he was told as a child.  There is no room for his red trust attack for this offense.  Vod knows what the red trust is to be used for and he is using it as a weapon when someone goes against his delicate world views.

It's a cowardly attack as he cannot debate the issue properly. 

[suchmoon]

You can make the ship reappear when it disappears behind the water. It's simply going out of your perspective.  Once the ship is gone from your sight "perspective" if you use binoculars you can see the ship again.

No.

I have seen no proof of what I'm being called out for,  Just jabs and ridicule.  If it's so ridiculous please help me out and give me definitive proof of a globular earth.  Along with an experiment I can do myself to prove it. 

It's impossible because you're flat out (pun intended) lying about such experiments.

[joerogers8]

You can make the ship reappear when it disappears behind the water. It's simply going out of your perspective.  Once the ship is gone from your sight "perspective" if you use binoculars you can see the ship again.

No.

I have seen no proof of what I'm being called out for,  Just jabs and ridicule.  If it's so ridiculous please help me out and give me definitive proof of a globular earth.  Along with an experiment I can do myself to prove it.  

It's impossible because you're flat out (pun intended) lying about such experiments.

Yes that is how your eyes work.  The video clearly shows this.  Your eyes can only see so far.  The bottom of the ship disappears first due to perspective.  Everything goes into it's vanishing point.  The video clearly shows this happening.  Hard to believe you don't understand this simple concept of the ship going behind the water curve then you pull out binoculars and wham it's there again.  Your not superman.  You cannot see forever.  If your eyes were stronger than your friends and you were sitting on the beach you would see the ship disappear at different times.  Go to the ocean and test for yourself.  You take binoculars and use them and then have your partner next to you without binoculars.  Compare and see if the ship disappears at the same time for both of you or at different times.  This will prove the theory you have brought to me showing the earth is round is utter bullshit.  This does not prove earth is flat or any other shape.  It just proves your brainwashed and incapable of changing stance even though your fundamentals should have changed with this new information.

Your fighting a fight that even people in the science community agree on.  Anyone with 5 bucks for binoculars can prove it.  

Water is level.  I can look at a sink, lake, ocean to see this.

Vacuum cannot exist without a container.

[yogg]

You posted your bounty about the flat earth in "Serious Discussions"... What did you expect ?
Why not "Politics & Society" ? Why not "Off-topic" ? How is that $10k bounty to prove flat-earth in any way related to bitcoin in a serious way ?

Water is level.  I can look at a sink, lake, ocean to see this.
Vacuum cannot exist without a container.

So is this the kind of reasoning we should also expect if, let's say, you make a sale with someone ?

Do you understand that, consequently to your beliefs, we question your ability to recognize a bitcoin payment.

Yet, you have not experienced the bits going into your wallet, you didn't see it. Everyone tells you to go look on the blockchain. But what for ?
You do not "appeal to authority" so what exactly should we expect from you ?

"Bits are electricity and I can look at a motherboard, CPU, but the coin is not there" ?

[morvillz7z]

Slightly off-topic,

I don't know if you had the chance to check the YouTube channel behind the $10k bounty. I have to say it was a really disturbing 30 minutes of browsing :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHMPXMWBrfA 

Personally, would not trust anyone who has anything to do with this, how to call it...flat-out nut job.

[suchmoon]

Yes that is how your eyes work.

LOL, right, this is quite a dilemma... Should I believe a deranged flat-earther or my own lying eyes.

But I appreciate your effort to make yourself look like an utter dunce and kudos to Vod for outing you.

[joerogers8]

You posted your bounty about the flat earth in "Serious Discussions"... What did you expect ?
Why not "Politics & Society" ? Why not "Off-topic" ? How is that $10k bounty to prove flat-earth in any way related to bitcoin in a serious way ?

Water is level.  I can look at a sink, lake, ocean to see this.
Vacuum cannot exist without a container.

So is this the kind of reasoning we should also expect if, let's say, you make a sale with someone ?

Do you understand that, consequently to your beliefs, we question your ability to recognize a bitcoin payment.

Yet, you have not experienced the bits going into your wallet, you didn't see it. Everyone tells you to go look on the blockchain. But what for ?
You do not "appeal to authority" so what exactly should we expect from you ?

"Bits are electricity and I can look at a motherboard, CPU, but the coin is not there" ?

Bitcoin payments have proof of transaction.  There is a TX id that all can see.  It is then confirmed by multiple people.

Give me your proof of a ball?  Why do you believe in the ball?  Your dumb ass cannot even give one shred of evidence for your belief. 

[joerogers8]

Yes that is how your eyes work.

LOL, right, this is quite a dilemma... Should I believe a deranged flat-earther or my own lying eyes.

But I appreciate your effort to make yourself look like an utter dunce and kudos to Vod for outing you.

Once again absolutely nothing.

I feel bad for you.  Your a bit to easy.  Everyone else let go of the ship around the curve bs after it was debunked.  Yet you continue the fight. 

[o_e_l_e_o]

I work with a pediatrician who refuses to see anti-vax families. Her reasoning is this: Vaccines are one of the most, if not the most, solidly proven medical intervention that exists, with all the scare stories about autism and the like completely and provably fabricated. Vaccines are the absolute foundation of pediatric medicine. The amount of evidence supporting their use is staggering. If the family don't accept something that is so obviously a fact, then they won't accept things that are less clear cut, as much of medicine is. If I can't trust them to be rational, then I want no part in their irrationality.

This principle applies here. The Earth not being flat is one of the most fundamental pieces of scientific understanding on the (spheroid) planet. If you don't accept something that is so obviously a fact, there is no telling what less clear-cut things you won't accept. If you believe that every piece of evidence that shows the Earth is not flat is fabricated, why won't you believe that a blockchain has been hacked, or a transaction isn't valid, despite all the evidence to the contrary?

I completely believe in free speech, and so you are free to spam the forum with your ridiculous ideas. But Vod is equally free to call you out on them. I wouldn't have gone so far as to give you a negative rating, but I agree I wouldn't want to enter in to any dealings with someone so detached from reality. As trust is not moderated, your only hope here is to get Vod removed from DT. Good luck with that.

I would suggest that continuing to spam the reputation board with flat Earth nonsense is not helping anyone.

[OpenCryptoSystem]

I was given negative trust by a legendary member named Vod.

It was given to me due to an opinion I had on the Flat Earth.  I'm surprised and shocked I would be given this negative trust for speaking my mind.  I feel like Vod is abusing his powers and attempting to shut down an opinion which he does not like or is threatened by. 

May I please have someone with rank and authority to look at what has transpired and advise
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1053331

Thanks

I was given bad rep from vod tooo !!

He think he can treat others like shiet !!

He has no respect at all !!'
Not good like this !!

[o_e_l_e_o]

You are all wrong, Earth is not flat and it is not round. Earth's shape is actually one big...

...mushroom.

Ehh, explain this then:

[Lauda]

Leaving a red tag on someone just because you disagree with him is very wrong.

If they are objectively spreading false information over and over again, then it is very much right.
To be case-specific: You have to be a complete nutjob to believe the flat-Earth bullshit; they are similar to the anti-vaxxers gang (although the latter causes much more collateral damage). On the other hand, you have to be a nutjob to willingly transact with a flat-Earth believer if you don't have to.

[joerogers8]

Leaving a red tag on someone just because you disagree with him is very wrong.

If they are objectively spreading false information over and over again, then it is very much right.
To be case-specific: You have to be a complete nutjob to believe the flat-Earth bullshit; they are similar to the anti-vaxxers gang (although the latter causes much more collateral damage). On the other hand, you have to be a nutjob to willingly transact with a flat-Earth believer if you don't have to.

I think he is spreading false info.  Here is his record on negative trust.  Looks like there are over a hundred of us.  If we are serious about cleaning up the forum I believe this should be looked into.  

dewmist   2018-09-24   0.00000000   Reference   User is abusing forum rank and handing out negative trust for personal reasons.
dominusnk   2018-09-20   0.00000000      Liar and scammer harmed my trust telling lies
Red Fish   2018-09-16   0.00000000      Very low intellect, not to be trusted in any ways
OpenCryptoSystem   2018-09-13   0.00000000      What he think who he is?
I did not touched him !!
I do my own business here.
He labeled me as spammer but im not i work with many partners together and my partners are all happy with my work. I feel sorry for this Kid..
God will punish him one day!
polonez   2018-08-14   1.00000000      Amazing forum member! Strict, but fair!
asche   2018-08-07   0.00000000   Reference   Vod red tagged me.
After contacting him he told me to take the debate to the public, which happened in the thread in reference.

Even another DT took my side on the matter, but Vod never reacted again on my contact attempts.

I do not like the fact that Vod closes the way to communication and thinks he can unilateraly decide like he does.
xolxol   2018-08-07   1.00000000      IDIOT VOD,ONE OF THE FUCKERS IN THIS FORUM.

HE DOESNT TRUST ME BECAUSE I AM TELLING THE TRUTH BEHIND DT MEMBERS.

VOD IS A TOTAL MORON,TOGETHER WITH THE PHARMACIST.
Exploit01   2018-07-30   0.00000000      A usless Troll F.B.I wannabe
Anduck   2018-07-29   0.00000000   Reference   Vod is dishonest and untrustworthy person. He lies about me and provides no proof/source/evidence of any kind for his claims.
He started harassing me when I did not remove my negative rating towards him and when I told him I don't specifically trust him.
After this, he blackmailed me, wanting me to remove my rating, and when I didn't, as a result he proceeded in the attempt to trash my reputation by leveraging his. Targeted harassment done by anyone is never acceptable behavior. Avoid doing any business with this person.
svennnny   2018-07-20   0.00000000      Scam buster excellent user we need more of those.
TradeFortress   2018-07-09   0.00000000      Harassment.
digaran   2018-07-08   0.00000000   Reference   Handing out positive trust for unknown reasons, I don't know why did Vod tagged actmyname with green trust after actmyname countered his valid negative trust? fuck me.
rcbclub   2018-07-01   10,000.00000000   Reference   strange ,just i got a negative feedback from Vod (Newbie with three posts asking to hold collateral for loans) .I think that fucking man against newbie and it is guseable he borned from his father penis and from his mother mouth.Before add my signed message he did his great job.Mothercode one Vod.Fuck your mother.
melina152   2018-06-28   0.00000000      He is a great person,a real person.I like him ,follow his activity.A solid man who is against scammer.Keep it up.
cryptoaeronet   2018-06-28   5.00000000      Great scammer.Do not trust this guys.
poutintsev   2018-06-21   0.00000000   Reference   Giving fake negative trust to people.
megatrend66   2018-06-17   0.00000000   Reference   This person is a likely book licking psychopat! Look at what he does all day! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

He ruins our business WITH TWO UNSUBSTANTIATED NEGATIVE TRUSTS to feed his excuse for existence while we give free knowledge to the community!
xSplit   2018-06-15   0.00000000      This guy is a pedophile and is trying to hide it

https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XS_Z6rZVnVMJ:https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255
zephyr_designs   2018-06-09   0.00000000   Reference   Misuses feedback
lswong   2018-06-08   0.00000000   Reference   Simply feedback negative trust for new member without warning or explanation to new member.

Brainless Member !
yokxashor   2018-06-07   0.20000000   Reference   WELL KNOWN PEDOPHILE! EVEN HIS EX COWORKERS REPORTED HIM AS A FUCKING PEDO. SEE THE REFERENCE LINK FOR DETAILS. HERE IS HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT https://twitter.com/lawrence_tech WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE REAL FACE OF FUCKING PEDO, WHO IS HIDING UNDER THE NICKNAME OF VOD HERE ON THIS FORUM.
redditguy   2018-05-25   0.00000000   Reference   Looking for reasons to give negative trust
szafa   2018-05-25   0.00000000      Negative.
Maurumedia   2018-05-23   0.00000000      Fat fuck trolling my shit.
Edal_JR   2018-05-21   0.00000000      Liar, with bought trust !
xSplit   2018-05-19   0.00000000      Shitposted my reputation for no reason beside his arrogance
octusnw   2018-05-19   0.00000000      is a scammer
emre1542   2018-04-11   0.00000000      Because we can basically talk stupidly to random people and no one would care about if we were right or wrong.
white.raiden   2018-04-02   1.00000000      Copy/Paster
Marrionbitcoin   2018-03-27   0.00000000   Reference   Vod is just giving away negative trust and asking for a donations. I don't who gives you the power to just give a negative trust and ruin our accounts. Also, pay attention to your posts that are not constructive and nonsense.
CreditSpecialist   2018-03-23   0.00000000      Telling me im "ripping people off with stolen documents." for no reason. Not reasonable legendary member for sure.
freeppleman   2018-03-20   0.00000000      scammer and spammer
Danos   2018-03-15   111,111.00000000   Reference   Proven pedophile and ponzi scheme scammer.
Check his untrusted feedback really well before trusting this guy
KurangKerjaan   2018-03-12   50.00000000      STOP FUCKING AMBUSING RED TRUST TO ME FUCK YOU
may142012   2018-02-27   0.00000000   Reference   Already got denied and locked the asking for loan thread, but this guy merciless gave me a negative regardless, fuck you.
BitcoinHome   2018-02-25   1,000.00000000      Bad man, painted the trust red for what I wrote to him in PM and asked for help
TheLordDSK   2018-02-25   0.00000000      Giving negative feedback to everyone he doesn't like, think every newbie is a potential scammer, shittalking fan, pedo and a fat perv who seat his ass on his mom basement watching tits and bitcointalk 24/7 year after year, fapping at underage girls pics. Can't believe he is still free and not in jail. Ignorant staff members trust him, everyone else hate him.
alia   2018-02-20   0.00000000      An invaluable member of BCT who is vigilant for scams and helps warn the community. Thank you!
heirinch   2018-02-10   0.00000000      Begging for merit
std1391   2018-02-04   0.00000000   Reference   negative trust only for asking check out my post?
so cruel!
more2much   2018-01-31   0.00000000   Reference   Gave me a negative trust for asking for a loan
TheWinnerBro   2018-01-30   0.00000000      Not going furthur into the matter and without knowing anything, he has given me a negative trust
BiiT MAster 666   2018-01-23   10.00000000      Sent nagetive feedback for nothing
Serenity_financial   2018-01-22   0.00000000      Call everyone scammers, without even explaining why
btcpepa04   2017-12-18   0.00000000   Reference   this men leave me an error feedback iam asking for loan
its not scam only asking for loan i said escrow not other sent
i heat this user he saud ###

Asking for loan for obvious ponzi. Recent history of questionable posts.

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This list goes on for quite a while.  Please check out his profile and see if you believe this is an asset to the forum or if he needs to be looked into. 

[o_e_l_e_o]

Breaking news: Busted scammers sometimes leave retaliatory feedback! Forum shocked at this revelation!

[Lauda]

Leaving a red tag on someone just because you disagree with him is very wrong.

If they are objectively spreading false information over and over again, then it is very much right.
To be case-specific: You have to be a complete nutjob to believe the flat-Earth bullshit; they are similar to the anti-vaxxers gang (although the latter causes much more collateral damage). On the other hand, you have to be a nutjob to willingly transact with a flat-Earth believer if you don't have to.

I think he is spreading false info.  Here is his record on negative trust.  Looks like there are over a hundred of us.  If we are serious about cleaning up the forum I believe this should be looked into.  

Are you seriously trying to use retaliatory, non-trusted, negative feedback (which is in 99% of the cases objectively false) as an argument while replying to a user which is one of the top contenders for the highest number of such received ratings?

[joerogers8]

Breaking news: Busted scammers sometimes leave retaliatory feedback! Forum shocked at this revelation!

Read them!

Go to the flat earth off topic thread and check the trust rating from all the people participating in the conversation.  I'm not the only one who is being unfairly targeted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.0

[philipma1957]

Look.  If you believe the earth is flat, you have severe mental issues.  :/

You can't understand facts gathered over a thousand years - facts that you can verify yourself.

Can you understand what a contract means?
Can you understand your responsibilities in an agreement?

I am simply warning the community you are not wired correctly.  People can still deal with you if they take proper precautions.

Vod  if you can prove the idea behind the movie matrix is true the world could be flat. Or any shape.

If you can prove the idea behind the movie matrix is false  the world is most likely round.


Since both you and I know you can not prove the matrix to be false or real  you might consider lifting his red trust number.

My take on it is I choose to believe:

 the matrix does not exist
 that what I see is what I get ie round earth
 that it does not matter much one way or the other since I am only making a guess as to what to believe

[marlboroza]

heirinch   2018-02-10   0.00000000      Begging for merit

You begged that JM to give you merit, Vod? You should have known better. 

You are all wrong, Earth is not flat and it is not round. Earth's shape is actually one big...

...mushroom.

Ehh, explain this then:

Your picture is photoshopped. There are no stars on picture and t-rex has much smaller hands.

I am sorry to tell you, but you have been brainwashed.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Your picture is photoshopped. There are no stars on picture and t-rex has much smaller hands.

I am sorry to tell you, but you have been brainwashed.

It's clearly a velociraptor you heathen! And there are no stars because he ate them, duh.