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Date: Saturday, December 29
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:59 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/K3ulYcd.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jon Jones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones) (22-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/S1w8SqT.gif Alexander Gustafsson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gustafsson) (18-4) (Light Heavyweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Cris Cyborg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cris_Cyborg) (20-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Amanda Nunes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Nunes) (16-4) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Carlos Condit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Condit) (30-12) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Michael Chiesa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chiesa) (14-4) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/S1w8SqT.gif Ilir Latifi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilir_Latifi) (14-5) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Corey Anderson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Anderson_(fighter)) (11-4) (Light Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Chad Mendes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Mendes) (18-4) vs. https://i.imgur.com/UBReiZi.gif Alexander Volkanovski (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Volkanovski) (18-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/cYfFCTb.gif Andrei Arlovski (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Arlovski) (27-17) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Walt Harris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Harris_(fighter)) (11-7) (Heavyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Cat Zingano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Zingano) (10-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/UBReiZi.gif Megan Anderson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Anderson_(fighter)) (8-3) (Women's Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Douglas Silva de Andrade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Silva_de_Andrade) (25-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Petr Yan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Yan) (10-1) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif BJ Penn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BJ_Penn) (16-12-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ryan Hall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Hall_(grappler)) (6-1) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Brian Kelleher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kelleher) (19-9) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Montel Jackson (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Montel-Jackson-206717) (6-1) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Andre Ewell (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Andre-Ewell-204397) (14-4) vs. https://i.imgur.com/9MsDPHl.gif Nathaniel Wood (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Nathaniel-Wood-82395) (14-3) (Bantamweight)
https://i.imgur.com/fUuYOYZ.gif Uriah Hall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uriah_Hall) (13-9) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Bevon Lewis (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Bevon-Lewis-211153) (6-0) (Middleweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Curtis Millender (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Millender) (16-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/rElWYJ4.gif Siyar Bahadurzada (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siyar_Bahadurzada) (24-6-1) (Welterweight)

Other

- Tom Duquesnoy was expected to face Nathaniel Wood at the event. However, Duquesnoy pulled out of the fight on November 12 citing a rib injury. On November 30, Andre Ewell agreed to step in and fight Wood.

Thanks to the Puertorican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1160439/UFC_232:_Jones_vs._Gustafsson_2.html).

Interesting match up between Cris Cyborg and Amanda Nunes. Looking at the fight record and statistics for both fighters, Cris Cyborg is ahead of Amanda Nunes in terms of striking accuracy at 58% versus 51% for Amanda Nunes. Cris Cyborg is on a 10 fight winning streak while Amanda Nunes is just 7. Same with knockouts, Cris Cyborg is ahead at 17 while Amanda Nunes is at 11. Amanda Nunes is ahead at 7 first round finishes while Cris Cyborg only have 2.

Jon Jones to win by KO or TKO imo providing he’s been able to get himself fully fit & strong being off the old performance enhancing drugs ;D

He’s one of my favourite fighters so I really hope he’s sorted his shit out.

Jones vs. Gustafsson
 Gustafsson 3.43


Cris Cyborg vs. Amanda Nunes
 Nunes 3.25

 Michael Chiesa vs. Carlos Condit
 Chiesa 1.55

Ilir Latifi vs. Corey Anderson
 Latifi 1.66

 Cat Zingano vs Megan Anderson
 Zingano 1.81

https://degenbet.com/ufc-232-jones-vs-gustafsson-quick-picks/ (https://degenbet.com/ufc-232-jones-vs-gustafsson-quick-picks/)

^  I'm rooting for Gus but I just can't see how he wins vs Jones.  Jones is just too good.  Same with Nunes...  Cyborg is just too guy.  Lol.  ;D

Watch Gus vs. Jones 1, turn the sound off and tell me who won more rounds


Now watch round 1-2 of Jones vs Comier and the OSP fight both of which were after long times off.


Im giving Gus round 1 and maybe 2 based on Jones ring rust, Last fight was very close and he is the only person that has come close to putting jones in real danger.

Look at Nunes´build, her striking tech, she just needs to win 3 out of 5 rounds, when these take place with her on top for most of the round, no problem and she has enough power and take down skills to get it done, not to mention being able to stand with Cyborg.

Ok, I'll do that.  But Jones wasn't lying when he said he was partying during that time around the match vs Gus.  Tho I agree Jones didn't look that good vs OSP (maybe cos no roids)...  The Cormier one, I have to look again.

Anyway dunno...  Jones just has more tools.  And he has prolly already learned from the first fight.

As I much I want to see Gustafsson win this match his recent matches didn't show that he had improved at all since the last match against Jon Jones. Gustafsson somehow became an ok fighter but not an excellent one who will be dominating the light heavyweight division. Only way I can see him win is if he recognizes his mistakes between him and Jones and try to look on how to counter them because he really is eating up a lot of Jones' elbows and it was the game changer during the first match.

Isn't it Gustafsson will be coming from a long lay out as well? He last fought Teixeira May 2017 if I'm not mistaken so both of them will ring rust. But I would have to agree with the majority here, I'm not seeing a upset here. We all know that Jones is a freak and the better fighter between the two.

Well i'm not sure about that..gustaffson's already proven himself a match for bones and jones has been through a lot of issues outside the octagon. Let's see if he's laser focused. Though agree with cyborg being too guy lol. And what's this? Bj penn's on  card? 😱

Also, the Swedish mauler Alexander Gustafsson cannot beat the real top 3 in the division. Jon Bones Jones, Anthony Rumble Johnson, and Daniel Fatman Cormier.

Notes.

--Montel Jackson aspired to wrestle in the olympics and found MMA when wrestling was briefly removed as an olympic sport. Could be a future prospect. Lost a close fight against Ricky Simon one of the more underrated and dangerous fighters in the division.

--Alexander Volkanovski trains out of City Kickboxing with Israel Adesanya, Shane Young and Dan Hooker. All of them have shown high level kickboxing I wouldn't count Volkanovski out even being a betting underdog. Volkanovski has also displayed good wrestling.

--BJ Penn didn't appear to have more than 1 round in him in his last fight with Dennis Siver. He tired quickly and didn't have much to show outside of a slim puncher's chance at ending things, against a guy also past his prime and not considered particularly dangerous.

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Main event.

Most assume the dominant super athlete of the past will show up in Jon Jones. My impressions are Jones deteriorated a little on his last comeback. Jones didn't look impressive in his comeback fight with Ovince St Preux. Jones took a lot more punches to the head in his last fight with Daniel Cormier than Jones would have absorbed in his prime.

Alexander Gustafsson is the opposite, his skills have shown improvement over time.

The fight could be closer than experts are expecting although its difficult to say how close given Jones being out so long and it being relatively unknown whether or not he has been taking care of himself during his USADA suspensions.

@bbc.reporter - Yeah I agree, he always fall short when fighting big names in the LHW.

@Hydrogen  - I don't see any improvement though after Gus first fight with Jones. It will be close again, but not that razor thin we have seen in the previous fight. I wouldn't say that Jones will dominate Gus but it's going to be a clear win for him.

Very interesting fight card. At best prices the double on the favourites in the main and co-main pays 0.9/1, not a million miles off a coin toss.

I find it tough to see Nunes’ path to victory over Cyborg. Just feels like Cyborg is a bigger better version of Nunes, which is tough on a Nunes because she is an excellent fighter.

The Jones fight is what is putting me off the double. Jones should have a mortal lock on GOAT status now, but has managed to find reasons to not be allowed in a cage recently. the first fight with Gus was close, however there were stories that Jones had not trained properly for that. But he is coming off another extended layoff, and he didn’t look great against OSP last time he had a break, so am I convinced we see Jones back to his best here, maybe he is but if this was his second fight back I would be more convinced.

On the undercard I am surprised the betting on Zingano v Anderson is so close. I know Megan will have the size advantage, but is she really going to be able to keep this fight on the feet against Cat? I Just don’t see it, I thought Cat would be a far bigger favourite and will definitely be my biggest bet of the night.

I got shocked too just when I thought BJ Penn already had enough on fighting in the octagon for good, he is still plans to fight with this time on a man who might even KO him in the octagon. BJ Penn already announced several retirements already which means he is indecisive whether or not he will continue to fight in the octagon. I love BJ Penn during his early years but I know a fighter who already got enough and had a good run, if he loses this one Dana White might step in and officially declare him unfit to fight in the UFC again and that is for his own good.

If you want specifics, I think Alexander Gustafsson's cardio has improved since his first fight with Jon Jones. Gustafsson got tired and faded in rounds 4 and 5. This allowed Jones to mount a comeback in the championship rounds and make a case for him ultimately winning the fight. I don't think Gustafsson will get tired or fade in the rematch the way he did in the 1st fight.

Gustafsson's boxing also seems improved. The uppercuts he hit Glover Teixeira with were better than what he showed earlier in his career. If I'm remembering right, Gustafsson may have trained his boxing with the Klitschko brothers before his 1st fight with Jones. Not certain who his kickboxing coach is @ this point in time but it does seem as if his hands are sharper.

In mixed martial arts, everyone is improving, evolving and getting better over time. There are many old champions like Ben Henderson, Renan Barao, BJ Penn who failed to keep up and were left behind. Jon Jones has beaten the odds thus far. He has been able to get away with a lot of things the average MMA fighters couldn't get away with due to his exceptional athleticism. But there could come a time when active fighters like Alexander Gustafsson will continue to improve to a point where the gap between them and the Jon Jones of the world shrinks noticeably.

Here's the first fight between those two just in case some of you haven't seen it before.  It's prolly the FOT for that year or a close second.  :)

Anyway, enjoy.

UFC 232 Free Fight:  Jones vs Gustafsson 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKR65ZgT28

Maybe he was too inexperienced in the first fight and don't know how to phased himself that's why he run out of gas. He is also throwing uppercuts with the Jones fight but he was not hitting squarely because Jones keeps moving as opposed to Glover just standing with no head movements. That's why his uppercut is very evident on that fight. I remember he hits Glover 3 or 4 successively, Teixeira is a stationary target.

@Kemrait. What is phased?

@Hydrogen. Jon Jones also has improved his boxing. I reckon the biggest difference between his fights from before and the fight next week will be his hands. They will be faster, stronger and they will hit their targets.

My prediction is a doctor's stoppage on the 5th round because Alexander Gustaffson's eyes are closed shut courtesy of Jon Jones' boxing hehehe.

Here are highlights from Gustafsson's fight with Glover Teixeira.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWVdOq_5zZs

Gustafsson's punches seem to land with more impact and force than they did earlier in his career when he fought Jon Jones. You can actually see Glover Teixeira's head snap back from the force of the punches, which mostly glanced off Jon Jones head as they lacked the same type of commitment or body weight behind them.

I re-watched the 1st fight between Jones and Gustaf from the link tokeweed posted above. The kicks to the body Jones landed and the spinning elbows could be what caused Gustafsson to tire.

Those are the impressions I get. Feel free to agree/disagree.


I think Kemarit meant to type "pace himself" instead of "phased himself".

Don't know if Jones has improved his boxing. He does most of his damage with kicks and spinning elbows. He's never inflicted serious damage with punches in a fight that I know of.

One thing you have to understand is the cardio issues of Amanda Nunes, she always starts at a great pace and the volume goes down as the rounds progress, take a look at the fight against Valentina Shevchenko and you think Nunes can stand against Cyborg who is a well rounded fighter as well as a much bigger opponent than she has ever faced in her life and Cyborg has never displayed her ground skills as she is so dominant in stand up.

Jones is never a strong fighter with one punch knockout power and he is not physically that huge during those period, he won all of his fights with his fight IQ and nothing else, he is a junkie who takes coke and parties hard and the substances found in his system are just particles that is being used to cut coke, so the notion of using enhancing substance is just bogus. :P

Hehehe ok.

Also, Jon Jones has been training in boxing during his layoff from MMA. He said his hands have never been better in his entire career as a fighter in an interview.

Just a small tid bit of info for you guys thinking Jones could be suffering from 'ring rust'.  Gus actually is on a longer time not fighting than Jones.  Dan Hardy mentioned it in the video below...  Enjoy.  ;)

UFC 232:  Inside the Octagon - Jones vs Gus 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTyeenwluF4

The match between these two will be quite interesting, and there's a lot of mention of Jones suffering from ring rust, however I feel it shall not have a impact on him. I expect Jones to win this match, he definitely won't have it easy but in the end he'll be the victor. I also expect Nunes to win that sheer power shall definitely work in Nunes favour, it'll be disappointing if she doesn't win.

Update: Jon Jones tested positive for steroids. This UFC event is being moved from Las Vegas to california due to the nevada state athletic commission declining to license Jon Jones to fight @ the event.

Its been said by USADA that Jon Jones positive steroid test represents the same steroids that were in his body the last time he tested positive. His system hasn't completely cleansed itself of the steroids yet.

I can't believe this is happening. So much drama surrounding Jon Jones. Always.

^  Lawl!  But the show must go on.  I wonder how this affects Jones tho...  With all the anxiety and stress this causes him and his camp.

No fight or show would happen once they do make such decision in regards with drug test result but USADA proved about his innocence.

Can't believe that they even continued this fight to go on didn't Jon Jones' last fight overturned to NC as he tested positive for turinabol. This is obviously an unsportsmanlike thing to do as he is clearly on an advantage as he is using sports enhancement drugs. I am praising USADA for his previous 15 month ban but this one letting him still fight all jacked up is really not a reasonable thing to do. He obviously didn't learn anything from his previous penalty as he is still continuing the things that he got suspended in the first place.

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Now we all understand why u didn’t take the Wada test! U can be on rocket fuel,, I’ll still gonna finish u Jon!

Drama sells. And what the UFC needs is drama, media, and discussion. The fight lasts a few minutes, but all the repercussions of before and after last for days.

Can't wait to see the Jones / Gustafsson revenge. Jones deserved to win the first even though it was closer than many expected. For me Gustafsson had the first two rounds, Jones the last three after he adapted to Gus' boxing.
I want to see Jones in the heavies after this.

EDIT : https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/12/23/18154355/ufc-232-jon-jones-tests-positive-trace-amount-turinabol-moved-to-california-one-week-out-mma-news


That's BS :
https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/Turinabol---16-hour-half-life:2755163

Yeah! I'll go for Gustaffson this time not because I don't believe on the strength of Bones but because I am now doubting whether if it is natural or not in his every battle (we all knew that Jones is not new anymore in performance enhancing drug issues). I can't wait for this battle, for sure this is going to be bloody.
She beats Rousey, remember? Nunes did not become a champion for no reason. I think she'll beat Cyborg ;D.

If he is in the heavyweight division he will be snatching up again the belt away from Daniel Cormier's waist again. No matter what division it is Jon Jones will still outclass Cormier in the Octagon his height and reach is always a disadvantage when it comes to facing a giant like Jon Jones not to mention that Jones' fighting style is always putting his opponent at a safe distance that is why Cormier hasn't been able to land some big strikes to him up until now.

The UFC moved the event from Vegas to LA.  So that means the show is going on and Dana White's not taking no other main event other than Jones vs Gus.

With all this sh*t going on with Jones and allegations of cheating, now I'd like to see Gus to win even more.  I won't back him tho...  Now that we know there's a possibility that Jones is juicing.

UFC 232:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7-4pLfF0g

Enjoy the video.

The dose is tiny. You couldn't manufacture a way to take such low doses. I don't believe that Jon Bones Jones is that stupid, this has to be a mistake of past turinabol intake, there is 0 evidence that it was done intentionally, and 0 evidence that it was re-ingested.

I have found this excellent post in Reddit in why even if the dose is tiny, the numbers don't add up:

@cellard. However, Jon Jones is that stupid. His checkered past shows everything about him as a person. Being a cheater who takes steroids before each fight is also within his capabilities.

Newsflash they all take peds. They just have protocols so that it doesn't appear in drug tests.
Jones probably got bad advice, that's why he got caught.
If there was tbol in his system, that's because he took it (and not one year ago lol), there's no way around it.

So the fight between Cris Cyborg and Amanda Nunes took almost a year in the making with Amanda Nunes taking a lot of time and giving an alibi about his supposed injury. Cris Cyborg also made an announcement that this might be her final with with UFC. Take note "final with with UFC" so does this means she might sign up with another promotions?

It's weird though, UFC is the best mixed-martial arts promotion right now, why would she left and sign for another promotion though? We would understand if she really went to go and retire for good but moving to a new promotional organisation is not a right move, in my opinion.

They all mostly used to take ped's.  But not anymore.  And there's prolly some in Jon Jones' matches that he didn't take them...  Like his first bout vs Gus?  ;D

So hell yeah he needs to take them now.  Lololol.

Not sure this is the right place to debate about this but peds are present in every professional sport.
Tennis players, runners, boxers, fighters, soccer players... all pro athletes take enhancement drugs.
Why ? Money, fame, glory... and because all others do. The same reason reason Chris Hemsworth does it before every Thor movie.
Remember that day Tyson bit Holyfield's ear ? He took something before that fight that made him go crazy. Well, all mma fighters take that specific drug before getting in the cage.  
They need drugs to get fit, drugs to get strong, drugs to heal faster, drugs to have more stamina and drugs to be enraged.
It's easy to do and easy not to get caught.

I reckon it has not been as easy to do with USADA around.

Also, there will be athletes who will be caught up from their doping days similar to what occured to Lance Armstrong.

I mean pace himself, LOL. Perhaps I forgot to take my daily dose of insulin when I replied.  ;D


I agree, but the whole scenario change again when Jones tested positive and I'm sure that his legacy will be tainted even if he win the rematch. Anyways, it was reported that the substance has no performing enhancing qualities,


https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/24/18155298/jon-jones-agrees-to-vada-drug-testing-ahead-of-ufc-232

Well regardless whether it's performance enhancing or not, it already tarnished what seemed to be a legendary career. Jon jones is a onr of a kind fighter let's all admit it. The kind of like anderson silva in his prime. But these issues with peds dragged the guys career pretty low.

Does anybody else feel the event is now less anticipated than it was a couple months ago?  I didn't even watch the promo vids and haven't been checking the line movements as much.

I think Jon Jones is def juicing with the UFC is covering it up...

Agree. All the hype around this fight has died down a little with all this juicing accusations. I already have some P2P bet on Jones in my favorite place, our local barbershop, LOL. Just another friendly bet and the winner buying rounds of beer. But he says that definitely Jon Jones has the advantage because of all the steroids in his system, LMAO. As far as UFC covering Jones asses, it could be, he is one of their cash cow so they need to protect him as much as they can.

Jon Jones is the worst scum you can meet. I don't know why White supports him so much. He is shame to sport and more than that to the UFC organisation. That tweet from Mark Hunt sums it all. The truth really hurts. My pick is Alexander Gustafsson and I wish him luck to send drug person in hospital.

Again, it boils down to UFC being in the business of making money. They are not going to admit that they like cuddling Jon Jones right now, but its obvious that they are protecting him, just like how they protect McGregor. But at the end of the day, we us fans really knows that Jones is a scum and a cheater. I can still remember DC saying that Jones is all fake. Now I believed that what DC is saying is true, that he is just showing as if he is a good guy but he is different persona behind the camera.

I haven't watched this one yet (but I'm going to after this post).  Let's see how all the juicing and the possible cover up is affecting Jones and how Gus could be having a field day out of this by making fun of Jones.  ;)

UFC 232:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7XQ2hXs-50

I live close to where John grew up. Big fan, sad to see the controversy. Hopefully, he can clear it up and continue.

^  Yup...  Sad.  But as Gus would say the fight must go on.  It's really generous of him to still go with the bout even if he's totally aware Jones could be juicing.  Maybe the UFC offered Gus more money...?  Lol.  ;)

Hey, do you think that it will affect Gus psychologically knowing that his opponent is juicing? I'm not really sure about the offer though, would it make sense for him to back out and waste the opportunity to make money? Maybe if he lost, he will claim that because Jones is juicing, lol.

Guys, stop thinking the "juice thing" will have any incidence on the fight because it won't.
It's just another fight for them, nothing extraordinary here.

Do you think its fair to fight someone who is on "juice"?

THEY ARE ALL ON JUICE FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086521.msg48899256#msg48899256

Wow! Good for ltc. I feel proud that it will be the first one who will sponsor a mix martial arts organization. I just wish that the logo of it will not only be printed on the canvas but also advertised personally by the commentators like Joe Rogan because it's a more effective form of persuasion :).

I don't feel the same way. Few hours left before the match starts and I'm excited to watch on how Gus will break the Bones ;D.

@NavI_027. Can I join you in your time machine? The main event is not starting for another 24 hours in normal time, I reckon. I would like to know the results ahead of time and make my bets hehehe.

@kenzawak. We heard you. However, why was Jon the only fighter caught by USADA in this event?

Who knows ?
Maybe his coaches gave him bad advice on what to take and when to take it or maybe it's Jones himself who didn't listen to them.

Maybe @NavI_027 lives on Asia and usually 1 day ahead so maybe he thought that fight is today.

@ kenzawak - Well if Jones took it himself then obviously he knows nothing about those PED's, hehehe. Probably they are all into steroids but for all the high profile athletes who have been tested Jones was so unlucky that he got caught the second time around.

Nope...  Not all of them.  Not all of them in the UFC at least, else we'd be seeing lots more being flagged left and right.  It's just Jones, who may have micro dosed recently for this event and Dana White covering it up.

Oh my, why do I keep arguing, it's hopeless ?
Let me explain to you how this works. These guys take everything, everything they can get their hands on in order to get an edge.
They have doctors, team members monitoring what they do.
They will only take short ester injections and oral drugs because they get out of their systems quickly. That's why they pass tests easily. And I'm not talking about the products that cleanse their bodies before the tests or products that are undetectable as of today.

I mean no disrespect but thinking that professional sports are "clean" is very naive. And we're talking about MMA here, a sport where you have to be strong, fast, resistant, ferocious, where you need to train a lot and where recovery and healing are very important.

White covering it up ? There is no covering up, it's out. And now everybody calls Jones a cheater... well he is just stupid enough to get caught that's all, he's no different from other fighters, they're all cheaters if you wanna go there.

Why are others not getting caught ? They're probably smarter than Jones.
There is more money in sports federations than in Anti doping agencies so athletes will always be one step ahead. Some athletes are probably taking peds that the anti doping agencies haven't even heard about, peds they won't be testing before a long time.
And who knows, maybe some of these guys get caught regularly but we never hear about it. You think there is no corruption when so much money is at stake ?

Micro-dosing ? No it's just that the tbol was almost out of his system at the time of the test. That's why the result was low.

Just enjoy the fight and stop thinking about this. The best fighter will win whatever was said the past few days.

^  Sure...  Everyone is taking something to get an edge, but not everyone is f*cking doping, else USADA, WHO COULD DETECT A PICO GRAM OF SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY, would be flagging way more athletes left and right than they are now.  Let that sink in first.

And let's just wait til the event is over...  I think there's more to the Jones' flagging than we're seeing now.

The half-life of a drug is the time it takes for the amount of a drug in your body to be reduced by 50%.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-the-Half-Life-of-a-Drug.aspx

Let's say Jones took a 100mg dose of Turinabol, the drug found in his system. Tbol's half-life is 16 hours.

16 hours after the drug administration, 50 mg of the drug remains in the body.
32 hours after the drug administration, 25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
48 hours after the drug administration, 12.5 mg of the drug remains in the body.
64 hours after the drug administration, 6.25 mg of the drug remains in the body.
80 hours after the drug administration, 0.39 mg of the drug remains in the body.

^  And then what...?

It's not a residue from one year ago lol and we have no idea of the amount he took (tiny or not). He just fucked up his timing, that's all.

^  Exactly what I'm saying!  I'm hearing Jones is allegedly micro dosing Mibolerone which is usually cut with Turinabol which then explains why he had small traces of it in his system.

Anyway, all this, is from what we're seeing right now.  Let's wait til the event is over...

From what I understand, UFC is trying to portray Jones as not doing this "micro-dosing", what was found out was just a residual from his previous failed doping test. Maybe this is the cover up of sort or damage control on their cash cow. lol.

Everybody is on drugs these days it's only a matter of being smart and able to cover it up. Lance Armstrong was doping, all bodybuilders are on steroids, recently one of them got a fatal heart attack at the age of 26. I read about it like a week ago.

Gustafsson is having his fun:

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The event will be a double doping match:

Amanda Nunes is fighting again. I love the way she fight and those lockdowns are impressive. Though betting with her means having less winnable on our water than betting with cyborg, I would still be on the side of Nunes.

At some point the rules against doping will have to be completely modified. And a much greater tolerance would be implanted. Today it is very unlikely that there is a champion fighter who has not made regular use of prohibited substances.

He is having his fun because Alexander Gustafsson knows that he can beat a steroid using Jon Jones because he almost did in their 1st fight, which was very possible that Jon was doping.

Yeah the whole thing is extremely strange. If USADAa can detect ridiculously small particles, then we would get "false positives" all over the place. Even real false positives, since anyone that eats meat could potentially be eating tiny amounts of hormones like trenbolone or clenbuterol for instance.

Actually we just recently had the Canelo case in which he was busted with clenbuterol, and Canelo said it could have been some meat he consumed in Mexico... all of these athletes travel around the globe and eat in many countries, so even if some are bullshitting, there will be legit cases and USADA would catch all of that.

Strange but lets admit it, we are all watching anyway.

What a night.

Jones destroys Gus and claim the vacant Light Heavyweight again. Nunes upset Cyborg and wins the featherweight belt. I thought Cyborg has the upper hand in the striking but Nunes came up blazing, both hands caught Cyborg and that overhand right was perfect to end the fight.

Damn. Amanda Nunes makes Cyborg looks like an amateur in the cage. Let's see her impressive resume:

- Chris Cyborg (:51, Round 1)
- Shevchenko (twice)
- Ronda Rousey (:48, Round 1)
- Meisha Tate (3:16, Round 1)
- Sarah McMann (2:53, Round 1)

What a record. As expected, Jones wear his new "gear" (no pun intended  ;D), as the new LHW champ. Ryan Hall defeated BJ Penn with a beautiful submission (heel hook), news report says that Penn's knee pop-up, I guess its time for him to retire.

Incredible night of fight and i am really furious by the way in which Cyborg approached the fight, Amanda Nunes was swinging with her eyes closed and Cyborg got smacked left and right, aggression cannot win fights and Jon Jones proved that with his incredible knockout of Alex, with a patient approach in the first two rounds and his aim was to score points for the judges and the third round stopped him as he promised, any more rematches for Jones and i am predicting a knockout, his fight IQ is out of the charts and i really hope he does not get into trouble anymore and i would like to see him fight often this year.

After everything I saw and heard I can only come up with the conclusion that the UFC organisation is led by faggots and drug addicts with clown Dana White on the top. Such disrespect towards the legends of the sport has never seen before.

I agree. I don't know if Cyborg has a strategy or if the complexion of the game really changes once she was hit in the face by Amanda. I thought she is the better striker, but Nunes somewhat beat her to the punch. As for Jones, what do you expect? his fight IQ was flawless, everyone thought it will be a close fight specially what Alex has shown in the first fight. I would agree that it's time for BJ Penn to quit, this is a new era, no need to damage himself.

I just got amazed how dominant Amanda Nunes was in the fight she KOed Cris Cyborg under a minute and she looked already beaten up before that. Whatever happened is Cris Cyborg didn't really look like a champ last night she didn't know what to do when Nunes started landing punches on her face. Just like what I said earlier BJ Penn losing is an inevitable thing to happen and this loss was obviously something to be ashamed of as it was his first ever submission loss and he didn't even reach a 2nd round to prove anything in the Octagon. I think it is his time to call it quits with MMA.

Yup.  Her resume looks waaay better than Cyborg's.  Cyborg mostly won vs bums (except Holly Holm).  Lol.

Anyway...  I guess that settles it between Jones and Gus.  I feel Jones needs a tougher challenge at HW vs Cormier.  I'd def back Cormier as the underdog.

What a great event!
I was a bit disappointed with Gustafsson, I expected better from him. He had a lot of time to prepare for that fight but he didn't show much improvement. Jones is just out of this league. His fighting is so unorthodox and unpredictable, so much fun to watch.
I usually don't watch womens' fights but I had to make an exception for this one. Lots of energy there, in the octagon and in the crowd. This was the real main event.
I also enjoyed the Chiesa / Condit fight with all those grappling exchanges. Very interesting to watch.
But the best fight for me was the Mendes / Volkanovski one. It was war. A couple of times, I thought Mendes was gonna take this one.
Overall, a fun night.

^  Yup Mendes vs Volkanovski was awesome...  It was the fight of the night (deservingly).  :)

So...  Any prospects for LHW to challenge Jones?  I don't think there's anyone else except Cormier.  Lol.  

I don't want to see another rematch with DC. Plus he already relinquished his LHW prior to the fight and Jones said he doesn't want to fight DC in HW.

I was hoping to see more by Gustafsson, but what can I say? Jon Jones is too good. He did exactly what he needed given what happened on the first fight. He neutered Gustafsson's superior boxing skills by using his long range, tons of kicks, too much wear and tear on the body, Gustafsson was crippled by the end of the second round. He surprised him with the takedown and then it was over.

DC has nowhere to go right now. What can he do? He was called out, I think we'll see a rematch in LHW or HW.

Sooner or later I think as much as we don't like to see a trilogy between the two, we will eventually see them fight again. I don't see anyone at LHW that can remotely beat Jones. The closest is Gus but we have seen what he did. Perhaps Jones will go up to HW and challenge DC and prove he is one of the greatest. Amanda Nunes is a monster though, I was shocked that she didn't even gave the Cyborg any chance, and that overhand right was the killer, first time we have seen Cris Cyborg being dominated like this for a long time.

Amanda Nunes only needed 51 seconds to finish this fight that took 1 year in the making. Based on the recent interview of Amanda Nunes, she prepared a lot for this fight and did not just accept the fight if she is not 100%. Cris Cyborg on the other hand might have taken for granted this fight but after this fight, I don't think she will retire as she announced earlier.

Looks like Amanda really prepared and very positive that the outcome will be on her favor. Just look at the weigh-ins, she is laughing and enjoying every moment specially when she won the fight. As if there's no real pressure on her shoulder. Miesha Tate says that she is the hardest puncher she ever face and this fight proves that. I also don't think that Cris Cyborg will retire as well, she will go back to the drawing boards and a re-match is possible.

@peter0425. Read the news sometimes. Dana already said that there will be no rematch because Amanda Nunes dominated Chris Cyborg. He would be creating a different storyboard if the fight was so close, however. But we have what we have hehehe.

It's possible there will be a rematch but soon. I read an article that Cyborg wants an immediate rematch from Amanda Nunes as she said "of course"
but Dana White don't think this is the right time. He's figuring out what's next for Cyborg before the rematch. I would like also to pay to have the their rematch soon not immediately.

 

Anyone watch the Preliminary fight BJ Penn vs Ryan Hall? It's the 6th straight loss for Hall of Famer BJ Penn and its the first time that BJ Penn was defeated via submission. I think its about time that BJ Penn retires. he has nothing to prove anymore. He may have a lot of fights left that his body can withstand but the younger generation of fighters nowadays are different from his era when his name is one of the feared fighters in the octagon.

I reckon that was not what the message that Dana White was giving during the post fight interviews. There will not be a rematch for Cyborg and Amanda Nunes, saving that Cyborg proves herself worthy.

In any case, it will take a much later time than soon. Did you watch the fight? Would a rematch of that fight sell? It will not, I reckon.

I think he got injured as well as Ryan Hall was one of the best in this kind of submission. I think majority of us here agree that it's time for BJ Penn to retire, Nothing more to proved as he cemented his legacy and I'm sure he also made tons of money so no need to push his body and fight younger generations.

Maybe if Cris Cyborg went on another winning streak then absolutely they will have to face each other again. Of course there is the money factor as well, if there's a potential to make good profits down the line then why not?

There was a video circulating lately that showed Cyborg take a nasty fall from a trolley, that was right before her fight with Nunes, so it's not impossible to think that the damage from the fall impacted her ability to fight.

I mean let's be realistic, Cyborg is an absolute monster, before this fight there was no reason to suspect that Nunes would dominate her in such a fashion. Since this was a relatively quick defeat, we can reasonably assume that Cyborg either had a bad day, or Nunes got particularly lucky. I really doubt that Nunes would dominate her again.

That being said, Nunes is also a beast, so I imagine the next fight will be more competitive.

It's either Cyborg was affected by that trolley incident or she just grew old overnight, we will never know the reason behind. I also think that there's no need for a rematch at this point. And as far as I can remember, Cyborg has only 1 fight left in her contract so I doubt we will a rematch unless Dana signs her to a new contract that will make the fight possible in the future.

I'm no expert in Womens' fights but it just looks to me that Cyborg was surprised with the tactics Nunes used, going all in right form the start.
If you're not 100% ready for this kind of assault, this can happen to anyone. It may not happen again if there's a rematch but it was not luck, you gotta be ready for anything in a fight. Look at Fedor when he got his losing streak, he was a bit overconfident and didn't expect some of the moves that made him lose. In MMA, you can't afford to lose your focus.

^  Cyborg knew exactly what she was getting into vs Nunes unless she was delusional.  I mean look...  Who has Cyborg fought before Nunes?  They were mostly bums (with the exception of Holly Holm and maybe Evinger?).

Btw...  Cain Velasquez vs Ngannou confirmed for 335.  So stoked!  :)

335 ?
Yeah I'm curious about N'gannou. I thought the guy was all hype at first (that fight against Derrick Lewis was horrible) but I'd be happy to be proven wrong  (I'm French).
I guess it will all depend on Velazquez, if he is in shape or not. We'll see if he's still one of the top heavies or not. He's supposed to be the better of the two.

^  I guess he is.  Even if Velasquez wasn't at 100%, but somewhat near it (70% - 80%), I think he'd still win vs Ngannou.  And if he thought Miocic's wrestling was tough, wait til he's vs Velasquez.  Lmao.  Ngannou won't last the whole 5 rounds imho.

Ngannou has the physical power to dominate the heavyweight division. However in the words of Conor McGregor, precision beats power, timing beats speed.

This Ngannou guy I think it's not too bring ring IQ wise. He has power, but he doesn't know what to do with it. He needs to improve his overall game. The extreme case of this is The Black Beast, that guy is just hilarious, has no idea how to fight but has insane power. Those guys can randomly win a title fight but are never consistent. I always stay away from gambling when these guys are involved since its a crapshot.

I agree. We all know how Cain's wrestling in his A-game. And I don't see Francis winning unless he hit Velasquez with a lucky shot. Although it's interesting to see if he is going to be affected by ring rust because his been out for about 2 years, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah! That would be a great factor. Cain is no longer in shape and it surely takes a lot of time for him to become once again. We all knew that Ngannou is a hard puncher (It's very obvious based with his physique ;D) and if he hits Cain then probably he will break in due time. However, I've already watch lots of fights where wit wins over power (like on Lesnar vs Mir) so it still not impossible for Cain to beat Ngannou — size doesn't matters all the time.

LOL. We have seen what Francis is made of specially with Stipe took him down. Now multiple that when he fights Cain Velasquez. And if the fight lasted more than 2 rounds then it will be difficult for Francis as we all know that Cain is relentless and will try to wear him down. Cain also has a good stand up game so it's really difficult fight for Francis here, not unless he improves his defense, doesn't tire fairly quick or got lucky.

^  And 'sea level Cain' could KO Ngannou any time of the day imho.  Velasquez is the numero uno HW fighter in the UFC ever!  IMHO.  :)

Excuses. Each fighter who has believed that they would not lose always look for a way out to change the public's perception of the loss. It was similar to Joanna Jedrzejczyk's situation after her loss to humble Rose Namajunas. Joanna gave excuses then she got the rematch. However, what occured in the rematch?

He's right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXwPdYRx70

 ;D

It's looks like Jones will be fighting again. But it's not Daniel Cormier:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/7/18171866/jon-jones-vs-anthony-smith-set-for-ufc-235-pending-nsac-license

It will be Anthony Smith set on March 2. Does he have a shot at Jones? I don't think so.

For those interested, Jones passed the test the day of the fight. No more picograms.
There goes the theory that those were from last year.  ;D

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/10/18177162/jon-jones-ufc-232-drug-tests-come-back-clean

"Test results have come back clean for fight night drug screenings administered to Jones by USADA and the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) on Dec. 29 in relation to his UFC 232 rematch against Alexander Gustafssson. CSAC executive director Andy Foster confirmed the news to MMA Fighting on Thursday following an initial report by ESPN.

Jones’ test results came back free of any picograms of the M3 metabolite, the same longterm metabolite of oral turinabol that was discovered in Jones’ system in three different drug tests since Aug. 2018 and ultimately prompted the UFC to uproot UFC 232’s entire event from Nevada to California on less than a week’s notice."

Good for him because he can now clean his name and erase the doubts of all the MMA enthusiasts and co-MMA fighters to him. I hope he now really realized the consequences of doing illegal stuffs like that in his career and finally stop from doing it once and for all.

Ok, at least we heard that he is cliean, but I'm sure that there are still a lot of doubters out there.


https://mmajunkie.com/2019/01/jon-jones-revels-ufc-232-drug-test-clean

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Regarding his next opponent though, no disrespect, but I don't see him dethroning Jones here. Yes he is on a 3 fight winner streak, but two of those wins are against wash up fighters (Rashad and Rua).

For those who are interested to bet, Jones open up as a 13-1 favorite. Lol.