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Title: solved Post by: Pichotklasa on January 06, 2019, 11:35:33 AM solved
Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 05:16:09 PM Did you peel the coin? Are you sure it's the same coin as drbitcoinve said he peeled?
Edits: Now reading TitanBTC sales thread again... Is there a private key on the physical coin at all? Quote Just a reminder, these are available in 2 versions: "2-factor Authenticated" (Each coin is registered to an email address, which can be changed at anytime. Access to the email is required to redeem) -OR- "Private Key included" (Just like Casascius coins, the only copy of the 30-digit private key is included underneath the hologram) This sounds like there's nothing "real" attached to the physical coin when choosing the "2-factor Authenticated" option. Doesn't sound like 2fa to me if there's only a single factor... And the "redeem code" doesn't really make it 2fa, but just 1fa. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 07:17:34 PM There is 2FA on it, and it is registered to my email with my password. Consider he's the one who sold me that coin, obviously it is the same coin. Did you peel the coin yourself? Peeled the coin to access the unique redeem key under the hologram? Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 07:38:31 PM Ofc not, it was peeled because he gaved me the infos and promised me to give me the physical coin later. But seems like you don't like to read. TitanBTC claim only the person who have the full infos can claim the coin. The previous owner don't have the email and password of the coin. Also the coin appear to be funded on their website but I can't sweep it. Waiting TitanBTC to answer So you bought a peeled coin and tried to redeem it? I'm trying to understand this situation, but it's not too easy. The previous owner don't have the email and password of the coin. Why did the previous owner peel the coin and then sell it as unredeemed? Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 08:00:23 PM Because based on the situation, he wanted to scam me for my money, and also use the value inside the coin. Why you asking dumb obvious questions. A scammer will always find a best way to scam. And that's a double way of scam if he can do it. Money from me, and if he trick somehow TitanBTC to sweep the coin without the email and password, he get double. Which part is not easy for you to understand and why you need to understand consider you are not form TitanBTC and your understanding is useless for me ? Yes he gaved me all the infos about the coin 2fa, I changed the password and email and secured everything except the physical bitcoin which is only a metal. I already explained that few times. You bought the coin knowing that the redeem code sealed by the hologram was not intact? Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: TitanBTC on January 06, 2019, 08:38:11 PM To Clarify this thread for everyone reading and give a bit of the back story, Pichotklasa is attempting a fishing scam and trying to claim ownership of a coin that he does not have possession of.
As a refresher, Titan Bitcoins were originally offered in 2 flavors: 1. Private key - in which the BTC private key was included underneath the hologram 2. 2-Factor-Authenticated - in which user's registered ownership on Titan's website and an additional ownership is required before redemption of the coin's BTC value The coin in question was a 2FA coin. We discontinued offering 2FA coins after a year or two, partly because it created an incentive for scammers like Pichotklasa to try to impersonate actual coin owners. In this case, Pichotklasa went so far as to setup a fake telegram account to chat with the coin owner and attempt to mislead the coin owner, as well as emailing the owner directly and impersonating myself and fabricating additional Titan Mint employees. Ultimately I was able to communicate with the actual owner and verify both their identity and that they currently owned the coin in question, and the value was redeemed as intended. We have humans in the loop for redeeming these 2FA coins and we are careful to ensure that BTC is never transferred to malicious bad actors like Pichotklasa. Email is best for resolving any security questions. guardians@titanbtc.com. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Rambotnic on January 06, 2019, 09:02:57 PM NEVER EVER trust someone else with your keys or rely on 2FA. 1 person getting scammed is bad...... A company closing/folding and being responsible for large amounts bitcoin that affects tons of customers is much worse!!! "Not your keys, not your bitcoins" Did we learn nothing from Proof of Keys or Andreas? Other companies that offer this: -Denarium -Infinitum Be aware!!! not my business but seems like minerjones were always right. not your private key not your coin. if that guy drbitcoinve managed to take money from op and also sweep his coin with some old infos, that would be some new 200iq scam... i don't know who is right and who is not, its not my business also, but if coin being resold as op is claiming, isnt the right thing for the one who help from your website coin to be used to require valid up-to-date proofs. it doesn't matter who can verify itself with his id, that's not even allowed and i am not sure do you have legal rights to request id's but, isn't that coin is verified by 2fa and few other details? i don't know that's why i am asking, don't get me wrong. because if the very first original owner of coin re-sell it and then try to scam it out using old infos for that, then that's huge security whole in your system and allow original coin owners to scam any buyer. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: TitanBTC on January 06, 2019, 09:44:12 PM I'm like 95% confident based on language patterns and grammar that you are just a shill account for the scammer, but on the 5% chance that you're not...
We follow an extremely rigid set of rules to defeat social engineering attacks. We have guaranteed the BTC value on our 2FA coins, and we take it very seriously. We successfully verified the owner of the coin in question before redemption, using a number of factors. We're also not done chasing down the details on the scammer in question. When we're able, we report these individuals to local law enforcement. We may have collected some identifying info on the individual in question and if it checks out, we'll be putting together a docket of evidence for attempted theft to be handed over to the relevant authorities. In short, we're here to serve the interests of our coin owners. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 10:04:47 PM 2. 2-Factor-Authenticated - in which user's registered ownership on Titan's website and an additional ownership is required before redemption of the coin's BTC value What exactly is in the physical coin? Just some code that you know, but nothing cryptographically meaningful? (If so, it's not really 2FA but 1FA...) I wonder why Pichotklasa can't answer simple questions like this: "did you peel a hologram and get the redeem code, or was it never in there". As I see it, it could very well be that the coin was sold redeemed without the buyer acknowledging that there should be a hologram in it... Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 10:13:07 PM P.S: to Anduck. No matter is none of your business, your questions were answered. learn to read. Sorry, but I don't see answers to my questions. Could you please answer again? I have a bunch of new Q's too if you don't mind. I'm trying to help you here. 1) Did you buy the physical Titan coin? Received it? 2) Was there a hologram in it? Was it intact? 3) Did you peel the hologram of the coin yourself? 4) Do you have the redeem code which is/was under the hologram? Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 10:18:20 PM P.S: to Anduck. No matter is none of your business, your questions were answered. learn to read. Sorry, but I don't see answers to my questions. Could you please answer again? I have a bunch of new Q's too if you don't mind. I'm trying to help you here. 1) Did you buy the physical Titan coin? 2) Was there a hologram in it? Was it intact? 3) Did you peel the hologram of the coin yourself? 4) Do you have the redeem code which is/was under the hologram? None of your business but feel free to read -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093771 1) The metal coin not, the full infos about using it yes. 2) I had only the infos from it so I could take control of it and change email and password. 3) obviously no 4) I do have ALL the infos not only redeem code but coin id, coin password, coin email. Then you've been scammed. The coin is a physical token, that's the real thing. All the infos you've received are only part of the 2FA thing. The physical coin has a redeem code in it, which is needed to redeem it. Titan's 2FA stuff is not enough.. Can you describe the process of transferring this 2FA stuff (coin id, associated email) to you? Also maybe you can provide titanBTC the info you've received? Though likely all that info is fake anyway if you've been scammed.. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Anduck on January 06, 2019, 10:25:12 PM The previous owner cannot provide full up to date infos to be verified as the current owner of it because only I can. How was ownership transferred? Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: teeGUMES on January 06, 2019, 10:33:53 PM The previous owner cannot provide full up to date infos to be verified as the current owner of it because only I can. How was ownership transferred? Pinky swear from what I can tell. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: Lesbian Cow on January 06, 2019, 10:54:25 PM In short, we're here to serve the interests of our coin owners. To that, can you update you website to show the Titan Tenths (Silver) you sold to be valid? For example, if you look up the cuties shown in the photo below, they do not verify on the Titan website. This is most frustrating! https://i.imgur.com/n2BzeTU.jpg?1 Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: TitanBTC on January 06, 2019, 11:59:50 PM In short, we're here to serve the interests of our coin owners. To that, can you update you website to show the Titan Tenths (Silver) you sold to be valid? For example, if you look up the cuties shown in the photo below, they do not verify on the Titan website. This is most frustrating! https://i.imgur.com/n2BzeTU.jpg?1 I thought those coin database updates were completed months ago. I'm terribly sorry about that! Yes of course. We'll have those updated on the site today. Please do feel free to email me with issues like this as well. I'm not available on the forums too often these days unless requested by a coin owner. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: Anduck on January 07, 2019, 02:47:38 AM Screenshot from the confirmation email -> http://prntscr.com/m3w8ec Can you verify that he link leading to legit TitanBTC website? Also please look at e-mail source as "from" field can be faked. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 04:28:38 PM Screenshot from the confirmation email -> http://prntscr.com/m3w8ec Can you verify that he link leading to legit TitanBTC website? Also please look at e-mail source as "from" field can be faked. You get that email when u change your coin email and password. If you don't know what to say don't say anything. I am not here to learn you stuff, I am here to report a scam. Now please stop spamming in my thread or I will start report your posts. Thank you. Even if you were in fact scammed you are a complete idiot. Many of the people here are asking questions to help get to the bottom of this and figure out whether you (the supposed buyer) or the seller was the scammer. These aren't just people that frequent the Scam Accusations board, we are actually buyers of thousands of coins that are often loaded with 1BTC+. If you were able to give out enough information and it were verified true then those of us from the COLLECTIBLES community would be able to put enough pressure on TitanBTC to make things right. Currently you're being labelled as a douchebag (look it up since English isn't your first language). None of us want to put up with your shit attitude anymore and you can now deal with TitanBTC alone, and it is apparent they have sided with the seller of the coin. Good luck in your endeavor alone. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: suchmoon on January 07, 2019, 04:41:33 PM I am not here to learn you stuff, I am here to report a scam. Your reporting isn't going well so far. If you're not a scammer then stop being an asshole to Anduck when he's trying to help you (trust me, I've been an asshole to Anduck and I know what I'm talking about LOL). It costs you nothing to answer the questions so it doesn't make sense to refuse help. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: TitanBTC on January 07, 2019, 05:00:59 PM Screenshot from the confirmation email -> http://prntscr.com/m3w8ec Can you verify that he link leading to legit TitanBTC website? Also please look at e-mail source as "from" field can be faked. His confirmation email from our website is likely legitimate. He obtained that info from the rightful coin owner usin social engineering tactics, by impersonating myself and acting as a representative of TitanBTC via emails with faked headers and a freshly created Telegram account. @Pichotklasa, If you've truly been wronged and I have somehow made a mistake, please file a report with your local police department including all evidence of your purchase and your travel to and from Peru, as well as any communication you had with the seller prior to and after making the purchase. I have multiple employees in Russia, and one in Ukraine, and I will have them communicate with your local authorities to verify the police report is complete and the evidence that was provided is authenticated. Once that police report is verified, we will consider the option that we redeemed the coin's value to the wrong party and transfer the BTC value of that coin to you once we've determined that we made an error. If you're in agreement with this process, then please confirm here that you will be working with us (Titan Mint) directly to resolve this issue. No further discussion will be entertained with you in this forum until you've agreed to involve law enforcement. If you've honestly been defrauded, then reporting that theft to the police and putting them in touch with us is the next step. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: TitanBTC on January 07, 2019, 05:01:35 PM @everyone else...
We're not infallible, but the evidence in this instance points pretty overwhelmingly to the rightful owner of the coin. Much of this evidence involves sensitive info which I am not authorized to share here, but they include verifiable transcripts and un-modified screenshots of the Social engineering activity as well as photos and videos of the coin, hologram, and redemption code. That evidence, combined with the timing of the communications and our IP logs indicate that Pichotklasa 1. Saw the coin owner's post here in the forum 2. Obtained the coin owner's personal info 3. Impersonated Titan employees to gain the coin owner's trust 4. Used that trust to obtain the coin's redemption info 5. Changed the coin's registration email using that information 6. Posted this thread Claiming to be the rightful owner Ultimately, with these particular coins, Titan Mint is the arbiter of ownership. Our system and the 2FA product itself was designed to automate that arbitration as much as possible. It's an expensive burden but one we take very seriously. If anyone has issues with our determination of ownership, they are welcome to contact us at guardians@titanbtc.com and we will respond as soon as possible. We'll work with all parties involved to find the best solution. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 05:10:25 PM Pichotklasa please provide picture of physical coin with peeled hologram. Thanks.
Also deep down this feels like a scam that involves two people that know eachother and think they can exploit Titan Mint 2fa coins. (honestly i hate the idea of a 2fa coin) Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 05:41:04 PM https://i.imgur.com/qdAcH5b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/utj7A0s.jpg I am very sorry but this was the biggest red flag out there and you should never have went through with a sale after seeing the peel / void showing through hologram. Social engineering of scams is only going to rise in the years to come and these are things you need to see through to avoid being taken advantage of. Your best bet now is to follow through with TitanBTC's advice and compile all the evidence you have and hopefully come to a conclusion with/without police or lawyers involved. As for future sales/instances like this.. after seeings these pictures I would not have left the meeting without having transferred the bitcoin to a wallet that I own. The holograms don't lie. The intent to scam/steal was right there. Don't ever trust just changing a username/password.. phishing and malware have lost a lot of people their coins aswell. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: Anduck on January 07, 2019, 05:51:41 PM Lets pretend that you own 2FA coin and you are second owner. One of the biggest issues here is that you do not have the physical coin (which is the real tangible thing in here) even though you say you bought it (with cash....). Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 05:52:00 PM Now tell me guys from your viewpoint because we may have different one. Lets pretend that you own 2FA coin and you are second owner. Will you feel responsible after securing the coin that someone get in thru the TitanBTC security ? Will someone can force you to wait, force you to hold or force you anything that prevent you from owning your funds from the coin you purchased? Who is the guilty ? The team which didin't follow their own security ways to unload the coin no matter they were manipulated with stories and old dated "proofs" that are not longer valid ? You as holder or they as people who offer you security for your money/coins? What fault have the second owner of the 2FA coin about they bypassing their own rules and letting previous owner with old infos to unload something that's not belong to him anymore ? How can someone force you to co-operate in any investigation except the local police ? Yes I will help him with information because I have nothing to hide and I am not the person who should be afraid of investigation, but that doesn't mean I should be forced or accept anything he telling me right? As current original owner of my coin all I want is access to it and nothing more. I want access to what is mine. If they provided someone else access to what is mine, they should refund what is mine because that's not my mistake. The scammer didn't break thru my security, he breat thru their own security. Don't get me wrong, I am totally fine with investigation and if TitanBTC needs my help he will receive it. But not before I own what is mine. Why ? Just because it is mine. Nothing more nothing less. It is not a redflag to buy something that you have secured. Something that the owner don't have access to. A circle metal piece don't give you any special access but only the sensitive information from i All the sensitive information belongs to me, and no one else have access to the coin email and password. This metal circle of metal cannot provide me more or less security than I had and than I have. Their 2FA coins are secured not only by 2FA but also coin email and password which they strictly require for unload. They are there for reason right? What evidence ? Do you read that the previous owner cannot complete the security checks to verify his up to date ownership ? I am the only one who can. They redeem requirement requires them, only I have them. That's the only valid security this coin provide you except the 2FA. I don't need police, I don't need lawyers, TitanBTC needs, he were scammed out of something which not belong to him. He gave access to something which is not his without requesting the up to date infos. Why you ignoring the fact that the smart scammer just bypass their security with setup no proof based story and with old infos ? Why I should need police consider I can verify my ownership and that I own 1bitcoin ? TitanBTC is responsible for his coin security, if there is something wrong with them, he needs to fix it not me ? He let the scammer took the bitcoin not me ? Why I should search anything else than the one who owns what's mine? I don't understand your viewpoint ? There is guide how you should unload your coin ( www.titanbtc.com/redeem ) and the scammer could not finish it because he don't have email and password. Simple as that. If someone of titanbtc let them in, how that could be my problem ? The portions of information that you figured were yours(when you changed them) and that you figured were safe are available to be phished or stolen through malware or social engineering. The only piece that is 100% completely private and secure is what is underneath the hologram. You do not have the coin and the person who sold you the coin peeled it and had access to that vital piece of information before you. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 06:21:43 PM -snip- But that's not something that TitanBTC require to unload your coin ? And the previous owner do not have access to the hologram? Thanks for your concern but your statements are not right. Take a look at titanbtc website what is required for 2FA coin to be unloaded. I am trying to explain from 2days that actually the old owner could provide only outdated infos and not a single actual one than the coin id and coin 2fa code. And that's far away from enough for you to prove you are the original owner, because if that was enough, this other case won't exist ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026181 I could be wrong here, but I believe you need the coin id / password / whatever the code is underneath the hologram correct? Please correct me if I am wrong, I have been trying to find this information from someone that has successfully redeemed one of these coins themselves. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 06:44:06 PM -snip- But that's not something that TitanBTC require to unload your coin ? And the previous owner do not have access to the hologram? Thanks for your concern but your statements are not right. Take a look at titanbtc website what is required for 2FA coin to be unloaded. I am trying to explain from 2days that actually the old owner could provide only outdated infos and not a single actual one than the coin id and coin 2fa code. And that's far away from enough for you to prove you are the original owner, because if that was enough, this other case won't exist ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5026181 I could be wrong here, but I believe you need the coin id / password / whatever the code is underneath the hologram correct? Please correct me if I am wrong, I have been trying to find this information from someone that has successfully redeemed one of these coins themselves. The previous owner can provide only coin id and coin 2fa, but not coin pass and coin email because he don't have access to them. He cannot provide also up to date picture of the hologram because it was destroyed for my own security as new owner so he could not use it in future for fraud. Sadly, that didn't help the case and he bypass the security even when he don't have all the sensitive infos. He had 2/5 of what is required coin to be unloaded Picho I am sorry if what you are saying is all true. As bitcoiners we need to always err on the side of caution. I myself have lost 20+ bitcoin due to scam investments and just random bullshit, BUT never once have I fallen for a peeled hologram. This is most likely going to be chalked up to a loss for you unless you can provide chat logs/plane ticket/cash withdrawal receipt to TitanBTC and even then it is tough because you don't actually have the physical coin itself. 2fa coins opened itself to this sort of social engineering scam and Titan Mint realized it and discontinued this line of coins, thank god. If you continue down this road of being a bitcoin coin collector and have questions about whether or not something is shady there are always those of us in the Collectibles forum that can spot a potential scam a mile away, just come in and ask. Drop the hostility towards us users, we are just trying to get facts right ( some of them own their own 2fa coins and want piece of mind aswell ). Also, paying cash screwed you over here aswell, hard to track, bitcoin we could have at least been shown a txid and confirmed what may have been a sale on the blockchain. Edit to add: As I said before, the most important piece of information is the coin 2fa code that is under the hologram itself, almost everything else can be phished/malware logged from your computer. The only solid offline portion in this whole ordeal is the 2fa code underneath the hologram and since drbitcoinve still is in possession of that, I believe this is why TitanBTC sided with him/her. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: Lesbian Cow on January 07, 2019, 06:59:14 PM pickachu, I just want to make sure I have this correctly.
1) You met in person to buy a loaded Titan 1.0 btc 2fa coin. 2) You paid the seller cash in person for the Titan coin. 3) You left that meeting without the coin. Are the above 3 steps correct and if so, why is #3 possible? Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 07:18:39 PM The original owner of this coin does not speak of selling his coin, only redemption of it. But Picho has pictures of it peeled and 2fa code showing. Why would pictures like this even exist unless scam attempt.
Edit: Can you show an email with intent to sell Picho? Without any invasive or private information showing. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 07:30:12 PM You dodge too many important questions for me to want to continue helping here.. im out.
Its like you bought a key for a Lamborghini, meet up with a guy and he goes.. "yea heres the key its over there in the parking garage" .. "alright man seeya later thanks for the 250k." Then you walk down into the parking garage and your key opens up a Honda Civic. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: suchmoon on January 07, 2019, 08:32:12 PM No its not like that. The only important thing from that coin is the sensitive information not the physical metal coin itself. I didn't dodge any questions but provided everything requested. I have full control of the coin infos which is the only thing which person needs to claim his coin. Nothing else than all the sensitive infos matters. If a crime occurred then every little detail matters. If you're not comfortable sharing the details on the forum then you should do what TitanBTC suggested and file a police report. It's useless to post walls of text repeating the same thing over and over while avoiding questions. Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: suchmoon on January 07, 2019, 08:56:15 PM There is crime against TitanBTC not against me so far. If TitanBTC refuse to provide me what is mine, then it will be crime against me. I do not avoiding questions, I provide the very valid information about the case? I don't understand what your guys claims here are ? teeGUMES asked you about the e-mails that initiated the trade. I asked you for the date of the trade. You're ignoring these simple questions and others, and you're continuing to spam massive walls of text for no reason that I can see. It's quite simple really - if you want anything from this forum then accept when forum members try to help you, otherwise go to the police. What other options do you see here? Title: Re: TitanBTC is scam Post by: suchmoon on January 07, 2019, 09:20:44 PM part of email verifying me as owner of the coin were shown. That was not the question though. im not sure how come you saying my proofs and statements as massive walls of spam. There is very little "proofs". You're refusing to provide more. Your statements don't mean much and they certainly don't need to be repeated ad nauseum. I don't see also how can a members of this forum would help me ? Then stop posting. You already got a response from Titan - go to the police. Title: Re: TitanBTC frozen coin (Possible scam) Post by: teeGUMES on January 07, 2019, 09:25:55 PM P.S: to Anduck. No matter is none of your business, your questions were answered. learn to read. Sorry, but I don't see answers to my questions. Could you please answer again? I have a bunch of new Q's too if you don't mind. I'm trying to help you here. 1) Did you buy the physical Titan coin? 2) Was there a hologram in it? Was it intact? 3) Did you peel the hologram of the coin yourself? 4) Do you have the redeem code which is/was under the hologram? None of your business but feel free to read -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093771 1) The metal coin not, the full infos about using it yes. 2) I had only the infos from it so I could take control of it and change email and password. 3) obviously no 4) I do have ALL the infos not only redeem code but coin id, coin password, coin email. Then you've been scammed. The coin is a physical token, that's the real thing. All the infos you've received are only part of the 2FA thing. The physical coin has a redeem code in it, which is needed to redeem it. Titan's 2FA stuff is not enough.. Can you describe the process of transferring this 2FA stuff (coin id, associated email) to you? 2FA coins are handled by human hand after verification they didn't do. They didn't requested up to date coin password and email but old dated infos from the original owner who sold me the coin and scammed me and them. I didn't received a part of 2FA thing I received FULL info about the coin. Full details for redeem request so I can verify myself as the new owner. There is no half or part 2FA thing. I have the FULL infos and no one else. This physical coin have 2fa,coin id,coin password,coin email. The previous owner cannot provide full up to date infos to be verified as the current owner of it because only I can. If you want anything to be described to you, visit titanbtc website and you can see how a 2FA coin should be redeemed. Obviously they bypass-ed their own "security" by letting someone using the coin without valid up to date infos such as coin password and email, which is not my fault. The coin in question was overloaded with 2BTC. Not once do you talk about this. (You apparently paid him with a sack of cash for 1BTC) You have phished drbitcoinve and think you're a genius with this Scam Accusation but luckily in this case the information you didn't know was that the coin was overloaded with 2BTC. You socially engineered drbitcoinve through telegram pretending to be a representative from TitanBTC and I am sure that is how you were able to transfer ownership of the coin id and coin password to your own. You then probably manipulated him into sending the picture of the 2fa code underneath the hologram which you have showed us a picture of. Luckily for the actual owner there was previously a hold reservation on this coin due to the overloading of it. Get the fuck off our forum you scumbag. |
