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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.

This is true the لاonuses should be decreasing and the last phase should be less but, i think the reason for this is the  sales of tokens failed, and this will lead to a significant price drop after listing.

The purpose of those bonus is to make sales even at the last minute of that round. They are pursuing more people to buy their token at their sale because they want to sell out, as in total 100% sales for their token.

It's their strategy so that's why they create promotion like giving bonuses to the last round to encourage and attract more investors. Probably a desperate move if the bonus is near to the end of their IEO.

Yes this can be true but in the larger view it's a way to thank early supporters and make them also feel appreciated for believing in the project from the onset so lets look at it from that perspective as well

On marketing, this is a way to attract potential investors. So its really up to you to bite on it or just be wise and wait for the ICO/IEO before proceeding. But this is really a way to get investors and most of the time successful projects really did pay their angel investors. But the question is different if the project failed and didn't even reach their target price goal. So investors feel betrayed by this one.

Most people loves discounts and they want to take advantage of that.

You have not provided other important information here. It is a common practice to give discounts on token sales even if it is the last round. What you have to watch out is the amount of discount they give for each round. You mentioned 25% in the last round, is that higher or lower than the discount in the earlier rounds? If it is higher, then that sure is shady.

The big bonus given to investors is certainly to attract many investors to join. With a large bonus, investors will think of selling at IEO or ICO prices and get a profit of a percentage of the bonus. But there are many cases where listing prices are lower than IEO or ICO prices and this makes a lot of investors traumatized to join IEO or ICO

The strategy of adopting bonuses especially during token sales in not necessarily to deceive investors but rather to attract investors to the project. It only becomes alarming when the project gives out exorbitant percentage bonuses which in the end will affect the tokenemics of the project. Normally, the bonus rewards are reduced when the sales get close to the end hence, early investors enjoy the huge benefits.

thats right, bonuses will decrease the real price of any ICO or IEO project,,
and i think thats one from many reason why a lot of alts down the price after tradeable on exchange

to call it "deceive" that's a little rough, this is a marketing trick, you can learn marketing management then I'm sure you will often encounter such techniques. The bonuses issue is it profit or loss who knows? . I often find some people who know that bonuses are just marketing tricks, but what I am surprised is even though he knows that bonuses are sometimes detrimental to them but still they buy them, and he says there is a happy feeling that when you buy with a bonus appendage.

Correct! As long as they've announced their plans on giving discounts on their last round, its not an act of deceiving  because I believe it is
a marketing strategy to reward people who have joined the token sale even for the last minute. This strategy is so very common these days often conducted in commercial establishments which is comparable to a "clearance sale" designed to boost sales.

it doesn't matter to them because all they are trying to do is to scam more people and the closer they get to the end of their fund raising scam the more desperate they are going to get and as a result they have to start doing uncommon things that sometimes don't even make sense to "encourage" the newbie investors to finally get caught in their web of deceit and hand over their hard earned money.

Bonuses are often provided to early investors, as a reward for faith and devotion to the project. The only thing that can be confusing is that if a bonus is offered higher than in the previous round. Then it can be regarded as a step of last hope, and it is very exciting for those who have invested their money.

I get you,this is actually very weird you should stay away from such project because it looks like they are just trying to deceive people to invest in their project and once they meet their target i bet they will vanish into thing air,stay away

I think this is a desperate attempt to attract investors. This is not the smartest move, but maybe they have some kind of plan, although it is hard to believe. Such a move speaks more about their poor situation than about the fact that they are scammers.

Providing higher discounts at the last minute that could potentially damage investments by early investors? Investors and prospective investors during this stage should really think twice if it would really still be worth it to invest or continue to invest or hodl on to investments in such projects.

This kind of situation also managed on early investors. Because those are active in all the time they know how to market will move on further days. But some peoples are lose the hope, at the same time many of them face the continuous participation. I hope long term investors are always maintain the holding because long term growth is perfect on crypto investment.

It is true and the point is that projects cannot afford to giveaway their tokens for free. In such cases, early investors, that took advantage of this bonus, just sold all their coins which caused a dump. Not every project can recover from a hard dump.

They did that because they want to attract more investment and more participants to support their projects. I think that is normal because they will do anything to make sure the project can succeed in the future. But the truth is we don't know if they really give what they promise to the investors and the participants.

That project will look too suspicious, and it could be a scam at any time. Because after they get big money from the investor, they can run away without notice.

I hope that people are aware of this so they can decide to participate or not because I am sure that they don't want to waste their time to join in the wrong project. Besides that, there are many other projects that they can be joining so they can get what they want.

Well, this can happen but before investors decide to sell off their holdings, it means the projects begins to lose its value for them. It is very difficult for investors to sell off a project with good idea, working product, well structured strategies for development, team commitment etc. Thus, the project must always give investors reason to hold else, after receiving the bonuses, a major will follow.

Bonuses aren't for cheating, it's just as an attraction for people investing in their projects. With that, investors will be happy if they get a bonus.
But it is very unfortunate that the bonus is very bad for the price of the token later. Because disposal will occur and prices will dump.

If the project is a scam, all they offer are all deceiving, but in general, bonuses are offered to attract more investors, it should not be viewed as a deceiving offer, if you don't like what they offer to you, just simply disregard them and look for other projects to invest.

With a big and growing competition in the market, it's expected that projects will be more aggressive in giving good offers just to attract investors, it might look desperate but that's their strategy and there are still some people who believes in them and seeds the bonus as an opportunity.

true but only if the bonus is legit becuase some are doing a false promotions but after you deposit a fund , you will found out the you still dont satisfy the requirment in order to get the bonus  .  bonuses on ico/ieo are okay if they dont interfere with the price of the tokens but if it does then it should be not implemented  . i thought bonues for ico's only occur on the early stages but its new to my eyes to see that there are ico that promotes last stage bonus .

There are many projects that run a regular cash campaign and after that the project dies and cannot be liquidated. I wonder what they do it for?

yes it is true, they do that to attract many large investments in their projects, if not so the company will also suffer losses and will not benefit from the project investors. therefore for the last 1 year I am not at all interested in investing in projects, especially ICO projects.

Bonuses or discount is just to bait people to buy more tokens from this project, so they tokens can sold out faster, this is one of trick that money-grabber project do. A excellent project no need to give bonuses or discount to the investor. Look at IEO on top tier exchange, no bonus no discount but it can sold out fast because it has a hype and people know it is a good project to invest...

25 percent to IEO participants? are we talking about investors?
If they will offer 25% discount to investors then its okay, this might be their last resort of having a sold out IEO.
But there was a tie before that i read a bounty which i didn't join because there is a rule statin that there will be additional 25% stakes per week if participate on public sale.

Its already the trend nowadays even in the real world like supermarkets
but lets get back on the bonuses its really the way to attract investors
but to make sure as an investor like me and the others , its up to us
to make sure that what we are joining is a legit company , and a legit
developers, most of the time we are being deceived remember, not all that
glitters are gold, so we must be very careful and look for those signs that
its not really a project but a scam, don't be fool by the bonuses and with the promises
always be careful

I think giving bonuses is a common practice in order for them to sell the tokens even further. It's use not just in cryptocurrency but also outside. I wouldn't really call it deceiving because it also benefits the early investors. It's just that in this cryptocurrency space, new ICO/IEO is not to be trusted fully. If that project you mention is a success, then it's a win for those investors.

If you have observed the crypto currency space; a summary of ieos are get rich schemes
Except for few rare exceptional successes in the space

I will implore you to get used to the disappointments; so you can enjoy the excitement as it comes forward

They do not know in advance whether their project will succeed or fail. They hope their project can be similar to many projects in 2017. Just create a scam project and run bounty, then they profit millions of dollars from ICO sales

bonuses are a powerful way to attract investors' attention, if an ICO or IEO project offers a 25% bonus, of course many are tempted to invest with them, but unfortunately a large bonus cannot replace returns to make up for losses. many projects currently offer a large bonus of 20% -30% just to fool investors, beware before investing in any project.

This is just a way to lure investors to the project and get to buy early. This doesn't in any way mean the project will be successful. In fact, I even prefer a project that sells cheap without bonus than selling with big bonus only to struggle to keep the price from crashing after listing in an exchange. But still, the team are scared that without bonus they may not attract enough investors.

The idea of Projects giving bonuses to investors is not that bad but if the bonuses are too huge or way too much then its very alarming,there is a possibility that the project is scam or pump and dump project,the aim of such projects is no other than the FUNDS.

Most times, excessive bonus kill the project, except the project has a very robust community and has good liquidity and therebye supporting the project for an organic growth. Although the major intent of any bonus is to get the attention of buyers who may think it's a good offer but actually a deadly one in the long run.

I think that a big bonus will not affect the project so much if the team will freeze the coins of those investors who received a bonus for a year or more.

There are bonuses given in the early stage of ICO so most of the interested people do buy them in the pre-ICO period and the new investors are nearly zero when the prices of token are maximum. In order to not to make the last stage of ICO useless and to attain the desired cap, projects do go with the bonus scheme even in the last stage. It doesn't really make a difference to the economics as the real price of token is the one with the highest bonuses.

They are only thinking of the funds that they are going to raise and not the consequences of giving to much bonus, it just encourages dumping, no wonder we are seeing peice lower than 50 to 90% because of the very huge bonus they are giving to late and early investors, in the end they are just harming their project.

With many bonuses given by the team, of course, this becomes an   attraction for investors to invest in the ICO, but in the case of investors as if they do not think with a large enough number of tokens will make the price of these tokens dump in the market,, and this can also automatically cause they suffer losses and usually indeed with a large bonus that is not necessarily able to cover losses that can be obtained by investors.

to be honest that is true, the bonus is just a bait to attract the attention of investors to join in it. well maybe not all of them but in fact a big bonus would result in large losses. I no longer see real benefits when investing in ICO, I think investing in IEO is more profitable now.

I partially agree with you on this, I recently invested in an IEO and the team decided to conduct a buy back and the set the price a little bit high then what the price is on the stock exchange but with a high bonus up to 100% which means they are buying back at half of the price the set.

The bonuses are very reasonable I suppose. Each IEO project will definitely do a different promotion. In order for the coins to be sold 100%, at the end of the IEO they give a big discount. Indeed, if we think this will definitely have a negative impact, the price of the coin will definitely decline, when the investor sells the coin.

But it also depends on the potential of the project. If the project has a developer and a smart team in developing the project. I guess the coin price can return.

Honestly, when I see bonuses for IEO, I don't count them as bonus. Rather I count them as the ones I paid for during the IEO but I have to pretend like I get them for paying for little. Most time, bonuses don't make me feel like I'm getting some for free because I bought some.. Let me just say, Generally, bonuses are not real bonuses. They are just what you paid for.

Bonuses are made to attract more investors, thats what they think, but it has a negative effects to the price of the coin when its listed to the exchange, it could hamper a dump of price, due to large number of supply in circulation, but also it maybe a tactics for some developers to gather money and in order to scam investors, we never know, but we experienced it already.

with use of returns on calcultion as managing tasks with decision on buying of token from the ico scheme of works from developer, the extensive on works as exist might be as use with dependence on customs as investors to prepare of release on covering fees to wait as investment grows as the rise on difference with the price as drawing with the chart on market.

I think, there's no mistake for that bro. That just a marketing strategy like another conventional business. Normal people will more attracted when they got much bonus right? So it's same with IEO as well. as long as they prove their value, even with no bonus, ton of their token will be sold out.

Boom, it looks same, there are no price changes there, this is really a bad marketing strategy, this isn't even a strategy, it's more bullshit

If the developer and the team do that, I think that will makes the investor and the participants angry or sad because they cannot get the token as their rewards. Maybe by freezing, the token can prevent from the dump of the token price so the token can enter the market without having a trouble. But the bonuses will make people oversold the token because they think that is the free money for them so they can sell it with fast or still hold for more.

That's right, Bonuses are only a lure for buyers at the beginning of the project, and clearly that is not a strategy, because the name of the strategy must be able to benefit both parties, not just one party.

Principally all these icos or ieos should not have rounds as this is deliberate method to fool investors i believe there should be only one crowdsale and if the project is worth it no matter what it will still be able to raise decent funds so no need of multiple rounds.

Yeah, but that is not guaranteed to see the project can be a success after the ICO finish. Sometimes, the teams need to get more investor to come so they can have more money to fund the project. They don't mind to give more bonus to the investor because they can continue the project with more money.

But yeah, if the price after the ICO finish, the price cannot increase high, then the bonus will not worth anymore because the investor will not make more money from the bonuses. So they need to be patient to wait for the price itself and sometimes, that will need longer than they can be expected.

Right now, the ICO itself using many ways to attract the investor to come, but not all of the investor wants to invest in their project. The ICO project now does not work well anymore.

I try to understand the scenario you are painting but it kind of seems confusing and not clear enough to make a conclusion. All over the business world, companies give bonuses as a form of motivation for their clients to make more patronage but it does not necessarily means a form of deceit because its a win-win for the two parties involved based on their own analysis. It now depends on the buyer to do his own calculation to understand the marginal returns he would get should he embark on such endeavor.

You as an investor who have the opportunity to understand the dynamics and how the figures does not add up would be in a better position to make the investment decision compared to just an individual with basic mathematics would see it as something to take advantage of which is why the Black Friday sales is always massive day year in year out.

That is very true. I also think the impact on the project if it gives a bonus to investors with a high percent (%). It really affects the price at the time of distribution. Unless the project withholds the bonus given until the specified time.

Big bonuses are the reason why most project dump and fail, and then they blame it on hunters, now that we have IEo that does not involve hunters, we can still see that the same thing is what is happening here, nothing has still changed as hunters are still dumping their coins too, and I guess the parties involved never care anyway, because like you said, it is just a scam, they only use that bonus to attract them and that is all, people that will suffer it more in the future are future investors, they are the ones that will be using their money to keep paying these investors and even these developers profit.

Luckily for me, aside the money that is involved in all these initial offering, I have never picked much interest again in joining it, I will rather wait till the project is fully operational.

I’m not sure it’s a bad thing, sounds more like a way to promote itself. But was crypto ever a home to nobility? Doubt it.

I feel that it is a great marketing opportunity to attract people to invest on the early stages, the only mistake that a lot of teams are doing is the ridiculous discount or bonus, so people would get twice as much tokens or get a 50 percent discount.

So long as the earlier bonuses was higher or equal to 25%, it's fine. But if they had no bonus, then changed the terms at the last moment so the last round provided a 25% bonus, then it's shady. Actually any changes at all to the terms after an IEO has started (unless its minor things) is kind of shady.

But bonuses in themselves isn't shady ... they are pretty common. But if I saw an IEO adding a big bonus at the last moment, I'd stay away -- all it tells me is that nobody is buying their coins and the devs are getting desperate.

Discount is something which a retailer can give on the product which he brought at a certain price. Here with projects, they themselves setting up a price and gives 25-50% bonus based on the levels. This is totally wrong and false information from projects.
I think its just a marketing strategy to sell the tokens, as investors get attracted or inclined to buy the tokens.

During the very strong activity of the ico company market two years ago, each project provided an average of 50% discount on the purchase of a coin to all investors.  Each investor sought to be among the borderline number of people who could buy coins during token sale.  If in previous years the discount on tokens gave good guarantees and opportunities for profit, today the 50 percent discount is more reassuring for investors, because in case of failure, he will not lose a lot of money, because he did not pay the full price for token.

The thing is the one OP told us is that an IEO is offering a discount on the last part of the sales.  It is kinda unfair for those who get in early, since it should be the early one who get a huge discount since they parted with their money earlier than the last buyer of the IEO.  

Probably that IEO does not met the needed funds on the prior batches then decided  to give a 25% discount on the last batch.  That sounds plausable on the developers side but it is very disappointing on the investors.  They could have adjusted the scheme giving more discounts on those who bought earlier adjusting the token sales count, and give the planned discounts on the target batch.  This will give both the early investors and the upcoming one a good deal.

the problem is that new projects should not attract investors with discounts and bonuses, but with a really good product that works or  by a very strong idea

Well most times this bonuses aren't to deceive people or investors but rather to attract more people to buy or participate in the sales but when the bonuses becomes too much the negative effect becomes higher than the positive. Also in cases like this, you find token dumping once listed, the dump would be coming from the excess bonus.

bonuses should decrease as token sales tends towards ending. however, sometimes the team can decide to make change strategy just to make sure they sell out their tokens. bonuses wont determine the project performance and success.

It isn't even exclusive to crypto. Just in general bonuses sort of deceive people. Companies make more money than they normally would selling more of something at less per item. So in total, they are spending more. The clever thing is, although they are spending more they are feeling better because they think they have got a good idea.

I even find myself buying more groceries then need because you get "6 for the price of 5" deals and things like that. So I too fall victim. But I am a knowing victim ^^

Definitely, bonuses are meant to deceive investors and people from either reading or researching about the purpose and aim of the project. Looking at the crypto ecosystem, people are more concerned about the profits they will make from their investment rather than understanding the true intentions of any crypto project launched.  The idea of the project should always be the main focus of any investor.

The current bonus rates are not that kind of dangerous for the team and investors, investors also invest in the project because they see a future perspective. Otherwise, choosing the project with the expected bonus amount per invested amount will deceive the people. The bounty hunters also have a contribution on the dump caused by both parties. I thought bonuses for ICO's only occur after the end of the token sale but it is fresh information for me to see the opinions by other investors which take the last stage bonus. After receiving the bonus tokens, investors shouldn't rush for selling these gift tokens. It is not true that all investors do the similar market trading, some investors also add the bonus tokens to their portfolio for protecting their initial investment amount.

Giving bonuses is part of the marketing strategies to attract investors but not an indicator that it will be a successful project unless it do better on the circulation along the market. Do not bother with the bonuses and focus on the purpose and the roadmap of the project. That will affect the supply on the market.

Bonuses are not intended to deceive investors. Giving out bonuses is a strategy adopted by every business not only cryptocurrency projects to boost sales. This is the main reason behind the bonuses projects offer during their token sales. And as the sales get to its close, the bonuses are lifted gradually hence it becomes an early bird catch tactics.

Indeed they are, and it's big red flag when you see absurd bonus amounts and on absurd times (like at the end of IEO).

Whenever you see such IEO, ignore it unless you like to throw your money in drain (you should send me, if that's the case).

Exactly! The early bird should catch the worm. In this setup, it seems the worm is reserved for the late bird. This is funny. Such arrangement is shady, if not an outright scam.

It could only mean that the IEO has failed to attract investors in its early stages. To make up for the low turnout in the early phases of the IEO, and to hopefully cover up the needed funds for the development which is still highly unmet, they are banking much on their final phase. The huge discount offered in the last batch is their final hope to meet their desired funds. In so doing, they are putting their early investors in a disadvantaged position.

I can understand if a certain ICO/IEO give discounts during the initial rounds. I have seen steep discounts of up to 50% during the initial rounds. I am still OK with giving discounts in the last round, if there is not enough interest in the market to reach the soft cap level. But then, the price in the final round should not be lower than that in the initial rounds. For example, if the team decides to decrease the price in the final round from 100 Sat to 75 Sat, then they should make sure that those who had purchased the tokens during previous rounds at higher prices should be reimbursed for their additional expenses. What I am saying is that they can't keep the price at 75 Sat for the final round and 85 Sat for the initial rounds.

Only very few projects introduce bonuses for investment either through presale or IEO and still become succesful but now many new projects are just using bonuses to fool investors, i think project should only introduce better bonus offers if the project IEO Or presale is launch in altcoin bullrun time, this way bonuses wont hurt the project

Well they really deceive people why? because giving bonuses in order to attract new investors even the whole project is a shit or pump and dump scam. this would lead their investor's losses since IEOs are pretty much pump and dump after the token sale since the tokens are already listed in exchanges unlike in ICOs although this will a good strategy for the company if they have a managed to convince people that have a good project that promises a good outcome. I also think that bonuses will result only on more pump and dump as investors sold their tokens after the IEO and the exchange opens them.

I think the big bonus cannot be said as an indication of a pump and dump project. In IEO there are sometimes new projects that provide bonuses so that investors are interested in investing. Big bonuses are common in marketing new projects and I think the pump and dump project depends on the developer team, whether they will produce a product or not.

Those projects who are confident that they will be able to sell their coin will not give much bonus to early investors as they know it will also cause a dump if the early investors will decide to sell out for profit.  Most of the projects that gives big bonuses are not successful, though it's good that they give bonuses but this is not anymore attractive to majority of investors since it has become a norm to see bonuses that they can also avail in our projects.

When selecting the best project to invest, we look more on the people who manage and develop the project, bonuses and the likes is just a small factor that could affect the project, it's the team's capability which is more important.

the essence of the bonuses is to entice the interest of investors and definitely they will follow their path like zombies. at last, when the token is listed on an exchange they will then realised that they are cheated

Bonus up to 100 percent is really really bad trend. It is the trend of providing bonus during IEO or ICO, which largely contribute to dumping price of coins on exchanges. Investors are in hurry to sell off their coins bought with high amount of bonus, thus dumping their price. So this trend should come to an end for the growth of crypto projects.

Most likely there is a reason why they devs or project owners give it not just to deceive people but it also a complement for gamblers. But we need to be careful for this cause not all of them who are offering bonuses will have a good intention. However, it is in our part to evaluate their project either a thing to believe or a way to fool people which it mostly happens at this time.

Bonuses are normally reduced as the token sales near its end. There is every reason to be alarmed when the opposite of the story is experienced, thus when the projects decides to give huge and weird bonuses at the end of the token sales. This could be that the token sales is not going well with the project and that have decided to increase the bonuses to lure investors.

In a case where the bonus becomes extremely too much, it shows to me that the project itself has no value and the project just placed that value on it to be able to easily extract money from investor, and the way they will easily get to investor is to give them high bonuses, yes I agree with you that discounts are a way to help the project easily get to investor on time, but using huge discount when they know that it can easily crashes the market when investors dump it on exchange is a huge scam to me.

Huge scam in the sense that they deliberately did that so that the crash of the project can be accused on dumping and then the developer can exit the market easily, which is why you see most projects crashing and you see the team not even worrying about it at all.

Actually if I were an investor I would choose an IEO exchangd that doesn't have bonuses like Binance, well little bonus is okay but a huge may lead to instant dump due to investor's extra tokens. Take notice of some IEO which have unrealistic bonuses and when they launch during the trading price will not be so high inlike huge IEOs launchpad.

I have been cheated by a lot of ICOs / IEOs on bonus issues. Because of that, we should be careful when deciding on a project. Especially with the bounty hunter. What is really scary is that you took part and put a lot of effort into that project and what you got back was tricked. Be wary of such projects

I have always been against bonuses when it comes to icos or any other similar form of raising money, in my opinion the only fair way to distribute the tokens is to not set an arbitrary price for them and just give the tokens according to the amount of money that each investor put into the project, this way you get a real idea of what is the demand for that token and the possibilities of the token crashing will be very low.

But obviously the solution is too logical and most likely will limit the amount of money that projects can get out of investors and while this will be good for investors in general we know that developers want to get as much money as possible even if they do not need it.

Huge bonuses are offered to attract more investors and this promotion will bring success in the IEO. If there are two kinds of the token sale, will you choose the token sale with bonus or without a bonus? Large investments can be a consequence of the offered bonuses by the team. Otherwise, the investors will not prefer to invest in the project in my opinion.


The early investors take the juice of the token promotional campaigns and these investors don't agree with the lock period of the bonus which gives on the early stage of the token sale. The marketing part is a big fiction by the team in order to encourage more and more investors.  The famous people are hired by the teams for developing this rule but some projects failed hard on this way as I suspected.

This has made it bad at all times once trading commences, and I think that's the worst situations were about to face now. Definitely all investors mostly hesitated to join after hearing stories like that. Bonuses isn't bad for an IEO, but as a legit investor we beed to find it productive once the project launches finally at trading sites.

Call it a marketing strategy. The developer also wants to benefit from more fundraising for project development and other operations. Naturally, to attract the attention of investors by giving a number of bonuses, investors can get profits, as well as developers. All of this has been taken into account by the authorized team, for the sake of the smooth process.

Large bunoses will only mean investors will receive large amount of token with less payment. Now if we look into this after exchange listing, these bonuses will be prone to dumping which will lead to price drops of the coin.

If you study marketing then you will understand that its very normal and its one way to promote any products or services. We are fooled not just here but in real life as well. If you are investing just for the bonus then you will fail, invest on a good project even if there’s no bonus because its worth your money.

To be sincere, the bonuses are only to deceived people but a marketing strategy used by almost all project or company and it the investors that needs to have adequate knowledge to select aa future promising project. However, we can only say a project deceive people when new bonus is high than the previous bonus.

Now there are a lot of projects that are aimed at bonuses that they offer to lure people.
After which people find themselves deceived.
Despite the fact that they honestly complied with the conditions.
I think it’s very important to check the developers to start trusting them.

Bonuses can quickly turned into profits most of investors loves to get this from introductory projects, it's a rewards from taking the risk participating by funding the project, most cases those early investors sell out after the token being listed to any exchange causing for the value of the coin to be dumped. Though this offers captured investors attentions but from the situations right now, things are being analyze and wise investors are not easily being fallen from this move by the developers.

Not only the bonuses for big investors during the private sale but also the size of fund allotted for bounty, anything above 5% can be too generous. Market condition ATM does not give such chances for any project to give too much bonuses if you are sure your product and tokenomics could generate profits for any investor either in the long or short run.

Honestly any IEO giving bonus at last round doesn't make any sense. It makes early investors of the IEO regret why they bought early, thinking they took advantage of early rounds IEO bonus. I think giving bonuses at early stages which reduce as stages progress is cool, the reverse is not OK.

Only a project with intention of scamming investors will give more bonus to last round of their sales, it means they desperate and only want to sale more tokens no matter how cheap because they have no more use for the tokens

Exchanges with more assurance of better returns, such as the big ones among others do not offer bonuses. Instead, they just simply sell at the price they feel is suitable. Bonus or no bonus, it does not add anything, rather it might bring more doubt about the project.
If the team is sincere in what they are offering, there is no need for bonus.

Offering bonuses in the last round, the project eliminates all the privileges that early investors should receive, people who invested in the first rounds are privileged investors, and it always has been.
The project discredits itself by offering additional bonuses at the very end.

This is what they use in deceiving investors. Juicy bonuses. If only investors will open their eyes to the truth that these projects are only trying to lure them into a false sense that they are being prudent. Many times the projects have not even begone operations. That is why they lure investors with bonuses instead of an already working platform.

Most of ICOs/IEOs teams are trying to raise as much as they can by using any kind of tricks to convince people, lol :)
They care about their funds collected, not about investors' ROI.

If they only try to raise money not concern on the future of the project, they could give a big bonus to attract a lot of investors.
That's not good, but at this time, they cannot fool investors anymore since most of them are just doing an ICO which has already become obsolete now.

People are already investing in IEO and for scammers, they need to invest money in an IEO to apply for a listing and the site itself will not easily approve as they will also do their own evaluation based on the requirement, so I'm happy with this new platform, we can get rid of scammers.

You correctly noticed the manipulation of price and bonuses in some IEOs. Recently, I often see various kinds of manipulations and this undermines confidence in many projects and in IEO as a whole. I drew attention to the fact that some projects do not even manage to build SoftCap, perhaps this method of fundraising will die soon like an ICO and a new concept will appear.

investors might be with interest on offers as referring shifts on number with bonus to gains on extent as collecting with use of returns and collects of profit on decision as expending parts of sums with resource on possession.

as far as I know, a big bonus is one of the attractions for investors, I mean if the project offers a large bonus, many investors will certainly join in it. but the fact is not like that that a big bonus will only bring big losses. maybe at this time only IEO is listed on a large exchange, which gives a real bonus from every project listed there.

In disagree with you on that my friend, lots of bonuses where given for example for early birds
but the only reason why the price never reach a certain level or the coin disappear is because of the holders also
sometimes , they dont know how to hold coins they own, they tend to sell it immediately, because they
think only of profit , that they dont know that it will bring down a coin

I feel sad when many bounty hunters promote fraudulent, bogus projects. Promoting blatantly, there is no evaluation of the project that makes investors confused and lose money on current IEO and ICO projects. Besides, the bounty hunters are very pitiful, when they work for a long time and receive nothing.

Of course, it's win-win for the project, on the one hand, it will sell their tokens, on the other, it will bring liquidity on the exchanges from their investors.

It is not fair to early investors, but that is all. IEOs/ICOs are doing much more shady things than you can imagine. Fake team members, fake followers, fake whitepaper, fake history and much more.

It is indeed funny mate, bonuses are meant to be reducing along the line while the last stage ends up zero. However, I see this as a desperate method that is, they want to make it appealing to investors so they can buy up which then exposes their weakness. I see such IEOs as this type a questionable one, good IEOs don't sound desperate like this, rather they sell off owing to either what they are offering or the exchange it is taking place on. Also, an IEO offering this type of bonus will only end up dumping more when investors starts selling.

It's your job to determine the authenticity of the documents they are presenting, with proper research, I think you'll be able to make the right judgement.
Good IEO are popular, so you'll not have hard time evaluating the project as we also have a lot of online reviews from reputable sites, but you don't only concentrate on one site as they could be bias, we cannot avoid that since we are all dealing with money here, people serve money and they can be dishonest.

It also depends on a number of exchanges to implement IEO. For large exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex, ... there will certainly be no discount because those are potential projects, we can only buy in private pools at a higher price.
For projects with big discounts, be careful when buying it because when discounted too much, that's certainly not a good token.

Any last minute discount is a scam it only shows their failure to raise money during their IEO. I saw a project who raised a little about $200 on exchange during their IEO. Because the public don't get to know all this, it's really bad to fall for any sort of discount from any IEO.

partisan with the business might collects of different use with reference on entrance with the past terms of attains on field with the forum, as defining with one on option as expecting with returns on exceed and work with similar plan on projects with the crypto finance.

You can say whatever you want to say about bonuses and don't get me wrong I am not in support of the abuse of bonuses but the main goal of these developers doing ICO/IEO is to raise money and they w ill do whatever they can do in their capacity to achieve, and the most common thing is to offer bonuses to attract investors, even if the price start dumping immediately after IEO

Agree. The projects that offer last-minute discounts are lousy projects with no participants. I would never be interested and involved in those projects

Bonuses are created to gather more investment.
As we are on the situation of this community and the place of the market prices.
More bonuses are created just to get more people to buy on their sales. this is normal.

Well its part of their strategy to gain more investors coz 25% bonus is still a good deal. Its normal that they creat this bonuses to raise more funds that can be use for theproject development and it's still up to the investors if they will bite the deal.

Bonuses are use not to deceive people but to ain more people on a project to invest.
YES, we have seen so many offers and yet some project failed.
WHY? we need to defeat the scared from scam project we need to be legit and many project team want to be successful, they offer huge discount just to get it so what is bad about that?

Getting the bonus is an advantage for the investors because the trend now is the coin will drop its value when its traded in exchange, so even if it will drop, they won't loss a lot compared to investors who were not able to get a bonus.

This bonus offers are usually given to early investors, usually it's not fixed, there's a certain period for a certain bonus type is offered.
Lastly, if this is to deceive bounty hunters, big projects which are successful now, giving bonuses in ICO are also deceiving projects?

Back then it was about marketing now it's deceit!!
It's even worse when they offer high bonus percentages on whatever you invest in the project which is shameful....with all these deceitful strategies  it's now my first sign of which project to avoid when am picking out the good projects. You can't just give out free money like that, what happened to scarcity??? These guys give crypto a bad name if you ask me :(

Well this bonus will be more likely adds to the dumping of cryptos. If without bonus the coin is already dumped below initial price then if the coin have a bonus as huge as 25% it will be dumped even further so there's actually no point of giving away bonus other than making their coin less valuable.

What if these bonus received wallets transfer the additional amount to the listed exchange and the buy-side of the order book gonna be cleared after huge dump of the price? The pre-sale stage bonuses are not going to be used for HODL in my opinion, these bonus tokens have a special target which is not usually used for brick walls in the pump after the pump. Scam projects can look like the same of the legit project but there are a lot of deal-breaking issues that deceive both bounty hunters and the loyal investors in the project. If the team can't apply the solution in the bad times, holding the tokens of the project will not worth the lost hope which is unrecoverable.

Bonuses or discounts, let's say it's the language of marketing to attract investors. If the project is good, market interest has increased which makes the value of tokens / coins higher, it becomes a reward for investors, ROI is achieved. Conversely, if it turns out that market interest, consider it even, the important thing is that BEP is not missed. See? this is a kind of symbiotic mutualism, of course with the note that this is for a real project. So it is very important to do the analysis. Fake projects usually offer very high bonuses, this is because of less interest. You need to remember, projects with quality tokens or coins will usually demand a lot so even if there is no bonus it will still run out.

I think that will be the responsibility for the developer and the team because they need to control the price from the dumping of the investors or the participants. They need to know how to control the price and if they cannot do it, then they can let the market decide. But if the project is strong enough to handle the dumping of the price, the project will survive and will pass the hard situations. They will have a chance to increase the price in the future, especially if the market has risen again.

They give the bonus to the early investors because they want to attract more investors to participate in their project. But that will no need if they know how to maintain their project to succeed in the future.

Honestly, I don't think it is actually meant to deceive people, I think it is a way of attracting more people but I think that strategy isn't really good, with so much bonuses, this is because too much bonus could lead to the dump of a project especially when listed on an exchange with low volume. Once a project has a good road map, I mean the white paper, backed up a professional team, then it will sell itself.

The short-term effect of giving too much bonus is the risk of falling token prices below ICO / IEO becoming greater. With a large bonus, the initial investor can sell tokens below the ICO / IEO price and still make a profit even if it is small.

You're right. I think it is fair to indicate bonuses for the purchase of tokens long before the start of sales. And so that in future IEO conditions do not change. In this case, we can talk about an honest sale of tokens. When the conditions change during the IEO itself, this indicates the dishonesty of the organizers.

a big bonus just to attract the attention of investors. New entrants are often tempted by large bonuses on project offers, but the results are not the same as what they have offered in the beginning. my advice, don't be too tempted by big bonuses and be more selective before you invest in a project.

Big bonuses should be from big projects like IEO projects from binance or okex, these type of projects will still manage to survive even after the big bonuses to investors due to successful fund raised on big exchanges, there will be enough volume and liquidity

High bonuses are enough to ruin a project. A wise invest won't fall in this bonus trap for sure. A few days ago, I saw a 50-60% bonus on StableDex IEO! Seriously? Onlybfool people will invest there and they will cry or regret later for sure. People shouldn't run behind high bonus, they should follow only a good project, if you don't find a good project for investment, then invest in bitcoin.

I sort of agree. It is like a marketing strategy. It is definitely there to muddy the waters a bit. Perhaps they have found it sells more coins? I think that people who are early adopters do deserve a discount though so a progressive ICO sale makes sense to me as long as they have a working project/idea.

That's the usual procedure when it comes to giving bonuses, early investors will receive a bigger bonus and it will reduce as the nearing to the end of crowdsale. You agree with it that it's only to deceive people which is wrong because we cannot generalize it, there are projects that's intention is to scam people, they are the ones who are making deceiving bonuses because they want to raise more money so they can disappear with big money.

It's still happening, so we need to be careful but if the project is legitimate based no our research, receiving a bonus is an opportunity as this would give us an advantage when it comes to selling in short term, as long as the project will succeed.

I do not think that there is any bounty hunter that would want to deliberately promote a horrible project when they know that a scam project will not only extend to the investors alone but also to the so called bounty hunter because they will never pay them too at the end of their promotion, so who would want to engage in the scam project.

I only blame bounty hunters because they don’t research on these projects before promoting them, and they just pick the project randomly to invest in based on what their instinct tell them, and when it comes to scammers, instinct does not work here, because if we judge them based on their whitepaper, a lot of whitepaper that we see are copy and paste, so we cannot know through that, but other method that is very effective to select this projects is still a mystery.

The more bonus it has, the less value in the future if it listed on exchange.
Unless they have great and solid project, the token price won't increasing in the future. Bonus must be given to early investors only.

Crypto bonus is not scamming or deceiving it will be given to people who are working hard and who know how to make quality post. As people are there with crypto since years and they are deserving bonus they good workers. But all people should be careful before getting in any site as some of them are scamming they will only show you green garden better stay careful while investing.

One of the negative effects of the amount of bonus given during the token sale period is the decrease in the price of the token when the initial listing. But in my opinion the price will ultimately depend on the project, whether it will produce a product of interest or not. If the project is good, I think investors will accumulate tokens when the price falls below the ICO / IEO price

This is true. The bonus or rewards should decrease with the end of the IEO, otherwise the coin will loses its value.