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Actually if I were an investor I would choose an IEO exchangd that doesn't have bonuses like Binance, well little bonus is okay but a huge may lead to instant dump due to investor's extra tokens. Take notice of some IEO which have unrealistic bonuses and when they launch during the trading price will not be so high inlike huge IEOs launchpad.
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September 17, 2019, 04:42:06 PM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
I have been cheated by a lot of ICOs / IEOs on bonus issues. Because of that, we should be careful when deciding on a project. Especially with the bounty hunter. What is really scary is that you took part and put a lot of effort into that project and what you got back was tricked. Be wary of such projects
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September 17, 2019, 05:50:57 PM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
I have always been against bonuses when it comes to icos or any other similar form of raising money, in my opinion the only fair way to distribute the tokens is to not set an arbitrary price for them and just give the tokens according to the amount of money that each investor put into the project, this way you get a real idea of what is the demand for that token and the possibilities of the token crashing will be very low. But obviously the solution is too logical and most likely will limit the amount of money that projects can get out of investors and while this will be good for investors in general we know that developers want to get as much money as possible even if they do not need it.
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September 17, 2019, 07:51:29 PM Last edit: September 18, 2019, 01:35:11 AM by mr_random |
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I agree with you that the offer of a large bonus does not mean that the project will succeed or the bonus you receive in accordance with the project agreement, I think a large bonus is like a trick to attract large investments in a project.
Huge bonuses are offered to attract more investors and this promotion will bring success in the IEO. If there are two kinds of the token sale, will you choose the token sale with bonus or without a bonus? Large investments can be a consequence of the offered bonuses by the team. Otherwise, the investors will not prefer to invest in the project in my opinion. That is unusual. The bonus usually given on the early stage of the sale. Most of ICO/IEO i know were running with no bonus at the end of period sale. We should be careful with the marketing strategies to invite more investors.
The early investors take the juice of the token promotional campaigns and these investors don't agree with the lock period of the bonus which gives on the early stage of the token sale. The marketing part is a big fiction by the team in order to encourage more and more investors. The famous people are hired by the teams for developing this rule but some projects failed hard on this way as I suspected.
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September 17, 2019, 10:23:06 PM |
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Actually if I were an investor I would choose an IEO exchangd that doesn't have bonuses like Binance, well little bonus is okay but a huge may lead to instant dump due to investor's extra tokens. Take notice of some IEO which have unrealistic bonuses and when they launch during the trading price will not be so high inlike huge IEOs launchpad.
This has made it bad at all times once trading commences, and I think that's the worst situations were about to face now. Definitely all investors mostly hesitated to join after hearing stories like that. Bonuses isn't bad for an IEO, but as a legit investor we beed to find it productive once the project launches finally at trading sites.
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September 17, 2019, 10:52:53 PM |
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Actually, every project that offers a bonus, of course they have thought in advance how the bonus they offer is not detrimental, so they designed it very well in order to attract investors by investors, so if I think the bonus is only limited to the lure, the edges are only an element of fraud. but this we rarely realize.
Call it a marketing strategy. The developer also wants to benefit from more fundraising for project development and other operations. Naturally, to attract the attention of investors by giving a number of bonuses, investors can get profits, as well as developers. All of this has been taken into account by the authorized team, for the sake of the smooth process.
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September 17, 2019, 11:36:19 PM |
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Large bunoses will only mean investors will receive large amount of token with less payment. Now if we look into this after exchange listing, these bonuses will be prone to dumping which will lead to price drops of the coin.
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September 17, 2019, 11:39:45 PM |
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I agree with you that the offer of a large bonus does not mean that the project will succeed or the bonus you receive in accordance with the project agreement, I think a large bonus is like a trick to attract large investments in a project.
If you study marketing then you will understand that its very normal and its one way to promote any products or services. We are fooled not just here but in real life as well. If you are investing just for the bonus then you will fail, invest on a good project even if there’s no bonus because its worth your money.
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September 18, 2019, 06:39:19 PM |
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To be sincere, the bonuses are only to deceived people but a marketing strategy used by almost all project or company and it the investors that needs to have adequate knowledge to select aa future promising project. However, we can only say a project deceive people when new bonus is high than the previous bonus.
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September 18, 2019, 06:57:16 PM |
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Now there are a lot of projects that are aimed at bonuses that they offer to lure people. After which people find themselves deceived. Despite the fact that they honestly complied with the conditions. I think it’s very important to check the developers to start trusting them.
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September 18, 2019, 07:06:59 PM |
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Large bunoses will only mean investors will receive large amount of token with less payment. Now if we look into this after exchange listing, these bonuses will be prone to dumping which will lead to price drops of the coin.
Bonuses can quickly turned into profits most of investors loves to get this from introductory projects, it's a rewards from taking the risk participating by funding the project, most cases those early investors sell out after the token being listed to any exchange causing for the value of the coin to be dumped. Though this offers captured investors attentions but from the situations right now, things are being analyze and wise investors are not easily being fallen from this move by the developers.
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September 18, 2019, 07:13:00 PM |
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Not only the bonuses for big investors during the private sale but also the size of fund allotted for bounty, anything above 5% can be too generous. Market condition ATM does not give such chances for any project to give too much bonuses if you are sure your product and tokenomics could generate profits for any investor either in the long or short run.
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September 18, 2019, 07:22:38 PM |
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Honestly any IEO giving bonus at last round doesn't make any sense. It makes early investors of the IEO regret why they bought early, thinking they took advantage of early rounds IEO bonus. I think giving bonuses at early stages which reduce as stages progress is cool, the reverse is not OK.
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September 18, 2019, 07:29:17 PM |
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Only a project with intention of scamming investors will give more bonus to last round of their sales, it means they desperate and only want to sale more tokens no matter how cheap because they have no more use for the tokens
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September 18, 2019, 07:42:29 PM |
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Exchanges with more assurance of better returns, such as the big ones among others do not offer bonuses. Instead, they just simply sell at the price they feel is suitable. Bonus or no bonus, it does not add anything, rather it might bring more doubt about the project. If the team is sincere in what they are offering, there is no need for bonus.
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September 18, 2019, 08:18:07 PM |
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Offering bonuses in the last round, the project eliminates all the privileges that early investors should receive, people who invested in the first rounds are privileged investors, and it always has been. The project discredits itself by offering additional bonuses at the very end.
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September 18, 2019, 08:19:21 PM |
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This is what they use in deceiving investors. Juicy bonuses. If only investors will open their eyes to the truth that these projects are only trying to lure them into a false sense that they are being prudent. Many times the projects have not even begone operations. That is why they lure investors with bonuses instead of an already working platform.
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September 18, 2019, 10:40:16 PM |
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Most of ICOs/IEOs teams are trying to raise as much as they can by using any kind of tricks to convince people, lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They care about their funds collected, not about investors' ROI.
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September 18, 2019, 11:22:49 PM |
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Most of ICOs/IEOs teams are trying to raise as much as they can by using any kind of tricks to convince people, lol ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They care about their funds collected, not about investors' ROI. If they only try to raise money not concern on the future of the project, they could give a big bonus to attract a lot of investors. That's not good, but at this time, they cannot fool investors anymore since most of them are just doing an ICO which has already become obsolete now. People are already investing in IEO and for scammers, they need to invest money in an IEO to apply for a listing and the site itself will not easily approve as they will also do their own evaluation based on the requirement, so I'm happy with this new platform, we can get rid of scammers.
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September 20, 2019, 08:24:55 AM |
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You correctly noticed the manipulation of price and bonuses in some IEOs. Recently, I often see various kinds of manipulations and this undermines confidence in many projects and in IEO as a whole. I drew attention to the fact that some projects do not even manage to build SoftCap, perhaps this method of fundraising will die soon like an ICO and a new concept will appear.
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