hosseinimr93 (OP)
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September 07, 2019, 08:41:15 PM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
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ventelo
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September 08, 2019, 12:10:37 AM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
This is true the لاonuses should be decreasing and the last phase should be less but, i think the reason for this is the sales of tokens failed, and this will lead to a significant price drop after listing.
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jossiel
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September 08, 2019, 12:34:11 AM |
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I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ.
The purpose of those bonus is to make sales even at the last minute of that round. They are pursuing more people to buy their token at their sale because they want to sell out, as in total 100% sales for their token. It's their strategy so that's why they create promotion like giving bonuses to the last round to encourage and attract more investors. Probably a desperate move if the bonus is near to the end of their IEO.
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opeku
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September 08, 2019, 03:44:08 AM |
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Yes this can be true but in the larger view it's a way to thank early supporters and make them also feel appreciated for believing in the project from the onset so lets look at it from that perspective as well
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btc_angela
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September 08, 2019, 04:13:47 AM |
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On marketing, this is a way to attract potential investors. So its really up to you to bite on it or just be wise and wait for the ICO/IEO before proceeding. But this is really a way to get investors and most of the time successful projects really did pay their angel investors. But the question is different if the project failed and didn't even reach their target price goal. So investors feel betrayed by this one.
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rosezionjohn
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September 08, 2019, 04:24:28 AM |
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Most people loves discounts and they want to take advantage of that.
You have not provided other important information here. It is a common practice to give discounts on token sales even if it is the last round. What you have to watch out is the amount of discount they give for each round. You mentioned 25% in the last round, is that higher or lower than the discount in the earlier rounds? If it is higher, then that sure is shady.
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cahbagus555
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September 08, 2019, 04:34:27 AM |
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On marketing, this is a way to attract potential investors. So its really up to you to bite on it or just be wise and wait for the ICO/IEO before proceeding. But this is really a way to get investors and most of the time successful projects really did pay their angel investors. But the question is different if the project failed and didn't even reach their target price goal. So investors feel betrayed by this one.
The big bonus given to investors is certainly to attract many investors to join. With a large bonus, investors will think of selling at IEO or ICO prices and get a profit of a percentage of the bonus. But there are many cases where listing prices are lower than IEO or ICO prices and this makes a lot of investors traumatized to join IEO or ICO
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Jorge158
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September 08, 2019, 04:50:59 AM |
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The strategy of adopting bonuses especially during token sales in not necessarily to deceive investors but rather to attract investors to the project. It only becomes alarming when the project gives out exorbitant percentage bonuses which in the end will affect the tokenemics of the project. Normally, the bonus rewards are reduced when the sales get close to the end hence, early investors enjoy the huge benefits.
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September 08, 2019, 04:52:41 AM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
thats right, bonuses will decrease the real price of any ICO or IEO project,, and i think thats one from many reason why a lot of alts down the price after tradeable on exchange
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ufaiz50
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September 08, 2019, 05:15:32 AM |
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to call it "deceive" that's a little rough, this is a marketing trick, you can learn marketing management then I'm sure you will often encounter such techniques. The bonuses issue is it profit or loss who knows? . I often find some people who know that bonuses are just marketing tricks, but what I am surprised is even though he knows that bonuses are sometimes detrimental to them but still they buy them, and he says there is a happy feeling that when you buy with a bonus appendage.
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lobat999
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September 08, 2019, 05:35:09 AM |
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to call it "deceive" that's a little rough, this is a marketing trick, you can learn marketing management then I'm sure you will often encounter such techniques. The bonuses issue is it profit or loss who knows? . I often find some people who know that bonuses are just marketing tricks, but what I am surprised is even though he knows that bonuses are sometimes detrimental to them but still they buy them, and he says there is a happy feeling that when you buy with a bonus appendage.
Correct! As long as they've announced their plans on giving discounts on their last round, its not an act of deceiving because I believe it is a marketing strategy to reward people who have joined the token sale even for the last minute. This strategy is so very common these days often conducted in commercial establishments which is comparable to a "clearance sale" designed to boost sales.
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Red-Apple
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September 08, 2019, 09:38:35 AM |
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it doesn't matter to them because all they are trying to do is to scam more people and the closer they get to the end of their fund raising scam the more desperate they are going to get and as a result they have to start doing uncommon things that sometimes don't even make sense to "encourage" the newbie investors to finally get caught in their web of deceit and hand over their hard earned money.
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September 08, 2019, 09:41:42 AM |
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Bonuses are often provided to early investors, as a reward for faith and devotion to the project. The only thing that can be confusing is that if a bonus is offered higher than in the previous round. Then it can be regarded as a step of last hope, and it is very exciting for those who have invested their money.
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September 08, 2019, 09:53:03 AM |
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I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs. Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny. The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers. If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis. We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.
I get you,this is actually very weird you should stay away from such project because it looks like they are just trying to deceive people to invest in their project and once they meet their target i bet they will vanish into thing air,stay away
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NoirSuccubus
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September 08, 2019, 10:07:27 AM |
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I think this is a desperate attempt to attract investors. This is not the smartest move, but maybe they have some kind of plan, although it is hard to believe. Such a move speaks more about their poor situation than about the fact that they are scammers.
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September 08, 2019, 04:19:27 PM Last edit: September 09, 2019, 01:01:07 AM by ayoubouni95 |
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Providing higher discounts at the last minute that could potentially damage investments by early investors? Investors and prospective investors during this stage should really think twice if it would really still be worth it to invest or continue to invest or hodl on to investments in such projects.
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diazepam666
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September 08, 2019, 04:40:18 PM |
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Providing higher discounts at the last minute that could potentially damage investments by early investors? Investors and prospective investors during this stage should really think twice if it would really still be worth it to invest or continue to invest or hodl on to investments on such projects.
This kind of situation also managed on early investors. Because those are active in all the time they know how to market will move on further days. But some peoples are lose the hope, at the same time many of them face the continuous participation. I hope long term investors are always maintain the holding because long term growth is perfect on crypto investment.
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September 08, 2019, 06:28:10 PM |
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It is true and the point is that projects cannot afford to giveaway their tokens for free. In such cases, early investors, that took advantage of this bonus, just sold all their coins which caused a dump. Not every project can recover from a hard dump.
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pieppiep
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September 09, 2019, 08:56:48 AM |
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They did that because they want to attract more investment and more participants to support their projects. I think that is normal because they will do anything to make sure the project can succeed in the future. But the truth is we don't know if they really give what they promise to the investors and the participants.
That project will look too suspicious, and it could be a scam at any time. Because after they get big money from the investor, they can run away without notice.
I hope that people are aware of this so they can decide to participate or not because I am sure that they don't want to waste their time to join in the wrong project. Besides that, there are many other projects that they can be joining so they can get what they want.
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Jorge158
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September 09, 2019, 03:44:14 PM |
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It is true and the point is that projects cannot afford to giveaway their tokens for free. In such cases, early investors, that took advantage of this bonus, just sold all their coins which caused a dump. Not every project can recover from a hard dump.
Well, this can happen but before investors decide to sell off their holdings, it means the projects begins to lose its value for them. It is very difficult for investors to sell off a project with good idea, working product, well structured strategies for development, team commitment etc. Thus, the project must always give investors reason to hold else, after receiving the bonuses, a major will follow.
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