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What happened::
Hi,

I want to share my experience with game-protect.com

To start with, I was aware about the negative comments and accusations in this forum but as there was no one who had hard proof that this site/user was a scam (at least as far as I know) I decided to give him a chance.
I do a lot of betting not only at Asian books but also at soft books. Some of them are offshore-licensed in Curacao (BTW I'm the user lonnie55 from that screenshot TwitchySeal posted in #1006). Curacao is a place where from my experience at least 20-25% of the books are scam operations. To date, I was registered at more than 300 books, so occasionally I caught a book that didn't pay out but confiscated my funds. As there is no chance to achieve anything by reaching out to the licensors I asked Game Protect if he can do anything. I told him right from the beginning that I was not willing to spend any money in advance for his services which he was fine with. He offered me a no cure no pay-basis for most of my cases. The condition was that the amount in dispute was high enough (around 5 figures).

It happens back in July 2018 when GP forwarded my first ever case to a lawyer in Curacao. The lawyer from Curacao directly replied to me. I checked if the lawyer exists in reality and found proof that he does. That gave me a little bit of confidence.

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books. He offered me a 65:35 no cure no pay service on almost every case. The fact that he never asked for any money and that I was given the contact details of a real-existing lawyer gave me hope that his service might be legit.

It turned out I was wrong. In April 2019, for the very first time he asked for money. He said he could not apply a no cure no pay model to this specific case since the amount in dispute was too low for that. He asked for 5% of the amount in dispute which was €210. I told him that he knows my position and that I won't spend any money on this. He then said that he can't handle the case without charging a fee. Eventually I thought why not give him a chance after all. He never asked for any money in a time frame of almost a year. Curacao based books scammed me of a 6 digit amount in the past 8 years. €210 is just a drop in the ocean. So I thought f*ck it, let's give him a chance and I sent him the money

This is what he promised:

https://i.imgur.com/t6GY3og.png


He also said he will publish an article about that case. This article has yet to appear.

https://i.imgur.com/zTcNnmi.png


So June 30 passed and he didn't give me any update on my case nor did he refund the money. I've sent him a BTC address and a request to refund the money. He replied: "I handled many claims in the past months (including your other claims) and forgot about this one. However, there are some things in process and it makes sence (sic) to wait longer." I asked him "what kind of process?" and he answered "There are several things going on since the establishment of the foundation. A court case in regard to 1668/JAZ (same license like betmaster.com) was lodged 2 weeks ago. A court case with 365/JAZ claims (including your dobrobet and suprabets claims) will be lodged soon. A 65,000€ claim was successfully settled 2 weeks ago. Casino said duplicate account and canceled account balance and said final decision by management. After involvement of our lawyer they changed to "was an software error! LOL Lawyer is in conversation with different parties."

Of course at this point at the latest his behavior should have raised red flags. Nevertheless I still had the glimpse of a hope he could reach anything in only one of the many cases I had submitted to him, the foundation (of which I'm not sure it really exists as he never handed me out the contact details) or the lawyer.

However, as time passed with no updates from either the foundation or the lawyer and nothing beyond those "some things are in process"-statements from GP I started to consider that all this was possibly a show and the scam accusations were right. My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time. He said he had no money in his BTC wallet but needed €10 for a VPN. So this was actually the point where I lost my hope that he wasn't a swindler. I tried to test him and asked him i.a. for a phone number of the foundation but he ignored my request. I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification. He's not made any further comment on this. Four days later I've sent him a reminder. Yesterday I've sent him another email: "The fact that you don't answer means that you won't refund the money, right? I just want to remind you of your own words (as mentioned in your email sent on April 30, 2019 17:15 CET): "My activity either will lead to get your money from Bestmaster or you will get the 210EUR back 30 June 2019. I attached screenshot of 310 support tickets and I can assure you that we handle claims totalling $ millions and the chance that I will ruin the reputation of Game Protect for 210EUR is zero point zero." I don't blame you. I just want to learn if the accusations in the BCT forum were right, so that I can close the whole case."

But he didn't reply. Usually he replies with minutes or hours. Due to the fact he is actively posting in this forum right now whilst a) ignoring all of my emails for almost 7 days and b) not refunding my money either, I must assume that he is a scammer.

tl;dr
- I sent GP €210 for covering a processing fee which he promised to refund on June 30 in the event he isn’t able to recover my funds
- he didn’t return the money to date
- he stopped replying to my emails for almost a week



Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg52407790#msg52407790

Amount Scammed:
0.0448 BTC or €210 at that time

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

Proof of Payment:
https://www.blockchain.com/de/btc/address/1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m

PM/Chat Logs:
see above

Additional Notes:
I advise you to not deal with this user.

Sorry that you got scammed by lunatic- game-protect. I can understand why you gave him a try. It would be great if you can add a type-3 flag:  (This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.) against his profile so that others who are interested in or watches his profile knows about his untrustworthy behaviour.

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point. Thanks for your advice.

He's seen the thread and is now trolling around (https://archive.is/3CJah). 

If he hasn't already, he's probably about to try to convince you that he can still get all your money back, and he's not a scammer - there was a misunderstanding or he was too busy saving someone else way more money and if you just give him more time he can help you....as long as you stop calling him out in public.

I mean the fact he was asking for $10 in BTC from you should substantiate already that he blew away your money, which, in itself shows that he's an irresponsible business owner.

You never spend money that is conditionally placed, unless you have resources to back it up at a later date. I wouldn't doubt he may pay you back by luring someone else to give him money (and the same place may be where your money ended up - paying someone else for which he couldn't show results)

https://i.gyazo.com/4d43fdeff4bf283733493874f7f09bbf.png

Proof that Game-Protect requested funds sent to 1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m


Archive from April 26, 2019

https://i.gyazo.com/1194e9ff11c42d228600739c278b5f87.png

https://web.archive.org/web/20190426100950/https://game-protect.com/donate/


Addresses connected to GP:
BTC:
1AjYMbDmXdXaD1MnNiWP6o3WJd6Fbf56xx
19zkL9bAbmZjZq1sZgo3SpM9iZVeRajVL3
1LrPLP6nRtXGAoa8jKNmPYRsCcoGkVSJ7h
1Hfv5ahzBqHh5HE7tNAkWe1w9SzxVyK4DU
1LGkjSpN8xjb1PW4iYEQgSdnZdt1fMpwoY
1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m

ETH:
0x278C94216a89C59dFD91b7B09c30Edc70C3fb6F5
0x8e4D8c8AD6b96290781cDd0591640350B121B30A

Archived: http://archive.is/UCl6n

OP, I suggest you to create a red flag against GP, I will support the flag. Since it was a written contract with you, I would suggest you to go with flag type 3.

https://i.imgur.com/qzzrBLj.png

Start to create the flag against game-protect from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

I will tag him using this post reference and I hope in future no one else falls the victim of game-protect.

In my opinion there is also room to claim the 5 BTC prize the scammer himself advertised here  Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769527.0)

But considering he scams for as low as € 210 don't think he is ever going to keep faith to that announcement.

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He was not even serious from the start is what I used to felt like earlier . But now I am confident to say that don't expect getting 5BTC from him who don't have €10 to buy a VPN plan and is asking someone who is his client to lend him that money.

Wonder how many clients he have asked for money in same manner. ::)

@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.

If you give him a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254), you actually have to promise to withdraw support for the flag if he repays you later.  So it's not like you are completely burning a bridge.

https://i.gyazo.com/1b86d11952ecd178740368f23a22b1cf.png

Thanks for letting me know, Twitchy. I will give GP 3 more days to answer.

Any answer as of yet? He's been offline since the 9th.

No, nothing

The shit things about @GP

He has time to responding/troll/asking at a gambling thread service ann, but not make a single reply about this case/problem by using his service. I also remind him to respond about this case, just curious what clarification he gave to us about this problem. Anyway if he doesn't make a single reply in email/thread in the next days better to make Type Flag #3.

@Game Protect, are you even willing to return my money?

He has been online posting in the last 24 hours and apparently has no time to respond to you. Create the flag already and move on with this.

Has he made any attempt to convince  you privately that he's been forbidden from addressing the issue publicly bc lawyerz/you just have to wait longer/it's out of his hand/the lawyers are all busy bc GP is so successful, why would they scam you?/etc...

That's what I was expecting.

No, he didn't contact me since. Neither via email nor via forum PM.

game-protect didn't take the introduction of flags well. That wave of retaliatory feedback he sent to all those who backed the flag was something else. Now that his account/feedback is about to change from orange to bright red, i wonder how he's going to take it?  ;D

@op do what yahoo62278 said, create the flag, he's been online and also reminded of this thread but apparently does not want to address the issue.

Fact that you should make a flag already, everyone here will support it probably.

Did you talk to the lawyer over the phone?

And this lawyer showed his lawyer's license?

And how can you be sure the lawyer was talking about curacao?

And at some point did you get to talk to Game-Protect.com over the phone?

I think you can already understand where I want to go with these questions


I still don't understand which foundation is this? I read what you wrote, to be honest I read it many times and I still don't understand what the foundation is?

The Foundation for the Representation of Victims of Online Gambling (lol)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184364.0

I PM'd you

You forgot to post the TX ID of the refund you're supposed to send to h4ns.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damage caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

h4ns did not sent it yet, so I do not have the TX ID at the moment!

Could you help me with a defamation case?  Someone said I was mentally ill and or brain dead on the internet.

Telling the truth is not defamation! ::)

It is only defamation if it is untrue.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191009230140/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.msg52408306
https://web.archive.org/web/20191009230214/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.msg52707844

It is a court that awards $ for defamation.  You cannot just demand that someone owes you 20,000€ because you claim they defamed you.

Claiming that someone owes you money when they do not can be considered a form of fraud.

No it's not! 

You now owe me $11,547.72

The proof is everywhere! :)



In the real world you can settle defamation compensation claims without court!

That's only when defamation claims are valid.

Posting a bad review due to a poor customer experience != defamation unless you can prove that h4ns posted something factually incorrect (to which you have been unable to prove)

If you are an online casino victim and this false and misleading scam accusation misled you to not engage Game Protect, please post in my thread:

===== GAME PROTECT - Online Gaming Consumer Protection ===== (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.0)

This is very true. I read the original post by h4ns, and it has a detailed story with screenshots and stuff. It seems clear to me that game-protect did not return the money to this user, even though game protect was supposed to do that. This looks like a scam, and it only supports the strongly negative trust that game-protect already has on this forum. If there are no counterarguments, no proofs than h4ns lied or offered misleading information, then it's not defamation. And besides, defamation is about spoiling reputation with fake information, whereas this seems to be the case of verifying bad reputation with true claims.

Where is the verification by police or authorities that I scammed h4ns for 210€ July 2019?

What would you say if Betcoin.ag defended themselves by saying "Where is the verification by police or authorities that cheated jasonoort out of the jackpot"

Did I open a scam accusation against Betcoin.ag that lead to Warning: Trade with exteme caution! and a scammer red flag above all their threads?

Despite of this, the documents Jasonort published confirm that betcoin.ag cheated him, whereas the documents and statements h4ns published confirm that I did not cheat him! ::)

Did h4ns withraw his 6 pending cases after his brain substantiated September 3rd that Game Protect is a scam / show?

So he had 7 cases total, first one submitted in July 2018?

Was anything accomplished that you can prove in the last 15 months?'

I don't think you did shit.

You are doubtless the schizophrenia king on bitcointalk.org! :D

The documents and statements proved you promised to repay h4ns. You failed to do so. Not only did you cheat him, you, game-protect or Game Protect of game-protect.com, are a scammer.

In the real world, to offer to give something back is not a scam! ::)


When?


When and how did I cheat him?

He asked you to refund him. You refused. You are a scammer.

h4ns himself confirms that I did not refuse his request! ::)

Closing his support tickets upon request is confirming his request and not refusing it! ::)


Who did I scam? How did I scam? When did the scam happen?

He asked for a refund. You refused to provide it. Instead, you threatened to file a lawsuit against him and with-held the refund as part of collecting imaginary monetary damages. You are a crook and the worst kind of leech the forum has to offer. Get the fuck out of here.

And I confirmed his request the same day September 3rd with closing his support tickets!


The 210€ were refunded the same day September 3rd!

Still waiting for this:

Holy sh** - I have stayed from that "game-protect vs bitcointalk community" thing since I signed up here a couple of months ago and didnt invest any time to see what its all about.

Now this is getting ridiculous though - you want to be seen as the savior and are not able to refund 210€ ? Hell, you are not even able to pay 10€ for a server?! Christ... Seriously, you better leave that forum here and start doing something real - go to work just like all the other people do. Everyone dreaming of the EASY money online but thats bullshit. Oh and I will now support the flag against you. To be honest I feel sad about you... :/ You are so pathetic and what you are writing from time to time is so low, its heartbreaking really...

OP is stating you did NOT pay him the 210€ back so you are saying exactly the opposite by the way. Oh no, you reduce the amount he is now owing YOU after a "defamating campaign"? LOL

This is a lie. If this was the case, it would have been the first thing you said instead of dancing around the issue for over an entire month. If this is the truth, provide us with the transaction ID of the refund payment you made.


We've been over this several times already, and you know the answer better than anybody.

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)


Still waiting for this:

That's not a refund by any definition of the word.


You will find all your answers in this thread, quite literally:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.msg52408306#msg52408306

Please quote the real world definition where it says that deducting claims from each other is not refunding?


Here is the contractional info I found:

"Who did I scam?"

h4ns

"How did I scam?"


"When did the scam happen?"

July 2019


If I would have scammed h4ns July 2019, then his suspicion would have been substantiated July 2019, but he says that his suspicion substantiated September 3rd, so according to h4ns a scam happened September 3rd and not July 2019 ???

You support the scam, so you need to know when the scam happened?

July 2019 or September 3rd?

How is it possible that there is no way for forum "members" such as game-protect to be banned? And others are being banned for "copying", which I also support but still...

@game-protect you really seem to be out of your mind and completely out of control

Just to clarify, you read the scam accusation and it convinced you that Game Protect scammed h4ns for 210€ July 2019?

Kind reminder

You are clearly out of your mind at this point. That's not how "real world definitions" work. Definitions aren't made out of a list of things a word isn't.

Besides, both sides of the equation are not equal claims. You took money from this person. You said you would refund it -- you lied. Instead of repaying them, you made up an arbitrary figure that you said was owed to you as an excuse to not have to follow through with your word. You are a thief and a scammer.

Real world definition for thief: A person who steals another person's property, especially by stealth and without using force or threat of violence.

What property did I steal and how?

Real world definition for scammer: A person who commits fraud or participates in a dishonest scheme.

How did I commit fraud?

This is the last reply you are getting from me on this matter. You are refusing to refund h4ns as you previously promised and have trashed what little was remaining of your reputation as a result. There's nothing more to be said.


You stole 210 euros from h4ns by promising to refund the money he paid to you and then keeping the money for yourself.


Real world definition of fraud (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fraud):

DECEIT, TRICKERY
specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right

You lied by saying you would give h4ns a refund. You didn't do this. You committed fraud, which thus makes you a scammer. There's nothing left to be said.

In the real world you can not steal something by promising something! ::)

Real world definition for stealing: Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

Real world definition for take: Remove something from a particular place.

I did not remove anything from h4ns! ::)

You stole 210 euros from h4ns by promising to refund the money he paid to you and then keeping the money for yourself.

You claim that I took BTC worth 210€ from h4ns's wallet without his permission?

Real world definition for stealing: Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

Do you have proof of my intention?

Is it ok to steal second base?

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actmyname investigated that a scam happened September 3rd!


Why you all support that a scam happened July 2019 while actmyname investigated that a scam happened September 3rd?

You should realize everyone here now know you are a scammer and no one is going to have their money stole by you.
Just give up.

How can you explain you are the least trusted member (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect) out of 2,682,725 member of this forum other than being a scammer?

I don't remember when I said I was investigating a scam which happened on September 3rd.

I also don't remember the relevance of my investigation in relation to all other members. I do not speak for all other users on the forum and neither do you.

You investigated that no scam happened September 3rd when h4ns asked to get the 210€ back, because I did not refuse?



When did a scam happen according to your investigation?

You stole 210 euros from h4ns by promising to refund the money he paid to you and then keeping the money for yourself.

I still do not see where I have said that the scam occurred on September 3rd.

Furthermore, h4ns did not state that you began scamming them starting from the date of September 3rd.

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If we prepend your system of beliefs to all our statements, then we shall find the present ever-present thereof ;)

With a rambunctious philosophy of living carpe diem even fishiness can be cast beyond the void. The date on the scam doesn't really matter, does it? This is some point that you really want to press, but we should totally toss it out the window.

You already agree that h4ns is owed 210€ regardless of how you like to twist linguistic semantics around.
Hence, clearly, you did not complete the case.
In this 'defamation campaign' h4ns accuses you of not returning the 210€. This is true, given that you have not done so.
Defamation by definition requires an untrue statement.

Retroactively incurring financial burden upon a client preliminary to the absence of substantial financial fulfillment to mitigate costs over a prearranged agreement is absolutely iniquitous.

1) In the real world you can not steal anything by promising something! ::)

Real world definition for stealing: Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

You see? Not one word about promising, hence promising is not part of stealing! :D

2) I refunded the 210€ September 3rd with reducing it from the compensation demand for damage caused by h4ns's defamation campaign.

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You all support that a scam happened July 2019!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

At what day did the scam happen and how?

The flag references a thread created in September.
The scam happened before. Why are you talking about July ?

How it happened ?
You do not remember that bitcoin transaction ?

https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/tx/88cea5e9935103e173e25483c1db298ab8ae7d9fa12e5572788134bb2cdb3c3f

You're nothing more than a crook and thief praying for people misery.
They got scammed on some gambling site, and that's not enough, you feel like it's a great idea to double their trouble by taking their coins after.
You're a scumbag.

Oooh and you think you are so clever with your word tricks.
Congrats chap, you're gonna go far kid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9-82oV2JE).

Now dance fucker dance. At least you are entertaining sometimes.

Because your extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account supports that a scam happened July 2019! ::)


Signature spammer does not have time to read the scam accusation he supports? :D

Again, at what day did the scam happen?


This transaction is confirmed by the network and is not a scam! ::)

Again, how did the scam happen?

Just re-read this thread, but sure yeah, stay in denial.
That's gonna help. :) Keep dancing.

Talk to you soon !

This thread says that h4ns substantiated that Game Protect is a scam September 3rd, after I asked him the second time if he can lend me BTC worth 10€.


But here it says July 2019 ???


Is September 3rd and July 2019 the same day in separate fantasy dream worlds? :D

Supporters please advise?

Yes, and ?

:D

Congrats. Clap clap.
Are you proud of yourself ? ???

Yes, I am able to hold h4ns fully liable! :)

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Defamation is legal by the laws of the country where h4ns is resident?

Making a bad review/posting a situation whereby you got scammed isn't defamation.

Learn to take criticism/admit when you're wrong.

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At what day did the scam happen and how?

https://i.imgur.com/WvAGaWD.png
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

Neither happened by 30 June 2019. So by July the amount owed by game-protect was in default.

However - if you had paid back later I would have happily changed the feedback.

Requests were made for it to be paid. You didn't pay it to him. (Default - breach of contract)

The fact that you conduct yourself like a scammer by claiming that you have "paid it back" by making up an amount that you claim to be owed to you makes the chance of of me changing that feedback zero point zero percent.

Offset payments in the jurisdiction I live in are illegal unless there is prior written consent. So based on my cultural values and morals I classify you as a scammer.

The communication and interaction between GP and h4ns ended 30.04.2019?

The time for riddles has long gone.

1) h4ns made a clear case for the breach of contract tag which was supported by 40 DTs

2) you have not made a clear rebuttal and instead are attempting to confuse the situation with riddles and bullshit.
It doesn't work. It just makes it look more scammy.

If you are not able to answer my question, then you support a scam accusation without knowing what happened! :D

Only extremely mentally ill and or brain dead brains behave that way! :P

You have not answered any of my questions regarding your scamming - checkmate.

It is up to you to provide the answers - not us.

I never scammed anyone and therefore can not answer such questions!

If people asks you about you killed someone while you never killed anyone, you logically and obviously can not answer such questions! :D ::)

A)


B)

^^^

None of this suggests you didn't scam your customer. You said you were going to refund him. You lied. You are a scammer. Nothing else is pertinent to this matter.

I doubt you have any potential customers left at this point, but if you did, they would be wise to avoid you knowing this is what could happen to them should you take their money and they complain about your lack of progress afterward. You are telling them this could happen to them: you promise to refund them, don't, cut off communication with them, and then threaten to sue them when they complain about it online.

Based on the statements and documents published by h4ns you conclude that I scammed him?



h4ns does not want my further assistance:



Please quote where I threatened h4ns to sue him if he complain about it online?

That, and your own words. You acknowledged you owe this person money, and rather than repay them you made up a fictitious settlement amount to worm your way out of repayment.


It sounds like you decided for them they didn't want further assistance. You said you would refund this person. You didn't. You are a scammer.





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Too bad he didn't realize that you were actually talking about yourself.

Based on the statements and documents h4ns published, are you able to determine at what day and how the scam happened?


Please quote where I aknowledged that I owe this person money?

Also kind reminder:

I'm laughing at this, you really cannot be acting this stupidly on purpose. You must know exactly what you're doing. No-one would really be dumb enough to think that this qualifies as blackmail - it literally says in the "law" you quoted that there is a higher standard required for it to be blackmail than "give me my stuff back or I'll tell people you're a scammer". Not sure in what world that counts asa "reprehensible" or "sensitive evil"...

It looks like h4ns can be acting that stupidly on purpose to publicly extort Game Protect! ;D

You are just an amazing stand-up act in and of yourself. Perhaps it's time for a career change.

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You support that a written contract was violated around July 2019, please show the written contract?

You can't read.
There's no point to reply to you. You are a waste of time.

Keep on lurking for preys.
This is going to get more difficult with this :
https://i.imgur.com/XKGHFau.png

Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted) on this forum.
This is somewhat an achievement considering TradeFortress and Pirateat40 used this forum as well.

Congrats. Your mom must be so proud of you.

The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?

His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! ;D (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. :-\

The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?

If you click your mouse on the word 'here' in your scam flag, it's a link to all the details.  Just click your mouse on it.

Woah :o What an achievement indeed and it overlaps the 32-bit integer for more than a couple of bits.
Thanks for pointing that out.

True that, I saw the negative feedbacks piling up but have not noticed that the old system score on BPIP wasn't up to date.
We could speculate this is some kind of recognition among crooks; he does that with such an ease he could totally teach a "game-protecting" class.

1) In the real world, around July 2019 is not a day! ::)

2) In the real world, asking to lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam! ::)


3) Please show the written contract?

https://i.gyazo.com/c93468342382dcdf69fe53a0000ac19a.png

You wrote this, right? Writing this or things to this effect creates something with equivalence to a written contract in many jurisdictions, there have been court cases won over things scrawled on napkins before so an email with an explicit promise like that would definitely be upheld in a court.

You've already shown that you have no regard for the law except for stupid copy pastes that are irrelevant to the context of the situation, though.

Thank you for confirming that a written contract does not exist, because written contracts require signatures from both parties and I am not able to see any! :D

Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! :D

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Real world people who have studied law ask to lend BTC worth 10€ if they do not have any on hand! ::)

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The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts! :D

Please show the written contract? ;D

You don't get to be a weasel and not get griefed here. Sorry.

This is blatantly false. I have no idea whether you know that or not as it's 50/50 as to whether you do know that, but are just being deceptive, or whether you are simply just dumb.

There are plenty of jurisdictions in which promises made in correspondence or verbal agreement can be considered a written contract with or without a signature. And in the jurisdictions where it's not considered a "written contract", it can still be considered implied, and so you would still receive a red flag on this forum.

Arguing over the nuance of whether or not the contract was 'written' rather than as to whether or not you scammed him shows how much of a low-life you are.

It is all referenced here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0

It is all stated in the flag text:

https://i.imgur.com/twwJL7M.png

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

Everyone else in this thread understands it - except G-P

Well I do not believe that he does not understand. He is just another level stupid who thinks pretending is going to give him some edge. May be some day he will realize that for him the entire business is facing this reputation problem assuming the game-protect.com is a company.

From src: https://www.upcounsel.com/is-an-email-legally-binding


This has also been confirmed by the New York Supreme Court along with other courts around the world.

Src: https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/12/09/are-your-emails-enforceable-contracts/#78e9be184f8a


Simply the words "Game Protect wrote" within your email exchange is enough to be deemed a signature within the eyes of the law. Don't believe me, google it. There are countless cases around the world where *real* judges have deemed that email exchanges without formal signing are still deemed as valid evidence and are held up in the eyes of the law as contracts.

At the end of the day, if you want to argue the verbiage of BitcoinTalk, that's fine. But it still does not defeat the fact that you did not make h4ns wholesome with regards to your obligations towards him/her. Period. You scammed h4ns.

For written contracts the signatures of both parties are required! :P


New York law is not applicable! ::)


At what day and how?

Fine, you want a different country:

https://parissmith.co.uk/blog/even-emails-text-messaging-can-constitute-legally-binding-agreement/
https://www.icaew.com/archive/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-alert/2018-02/case-law-court-confirms-emails-can-create-legally-binding-contracts

The following obligations in EU law have to be met:

An intention by both parties to enter into legal relations
An offer by one of the parties which is capable of being accepted by the other
Acceptance of that offer by the other, and
A mutual promise by each to provide something of value to the other (known in law as 'consideration')

ALL of which are applicable to your email exchange with h4ns.

The theme is written contract and not binding agreements, but thank you for confrming that a legally binding agreement does not exist! :D

1) I never had the intention to enter into legal relations.

Despite of this, donations exclude legal relations by default.

Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.

2) I never promised anything

Did you not honestly read what I just sent. Emails can create legally binding contracts. A contract is an agreement. Look, I know your english isn't great, but if it isn't, you can't then over-analyze verbiage.

1) Good call sign of a scammer. "ITS A DONATION". Wow, you still created, within your email, a list of obligations for yourself. Besides, the very definition of what you are doing, I would argue, isn't a donation. Transactions aren't considered "donations" when in exchange for something, regardless of whether you'd like to call it a "donation" or not. For example, in Canadian law (which I assume would run the same as EU): "Thus, a gift is the voluntary and gratuitous transfer of property.[59] Furthermore, the donor must not draw any personal benefit, either directly or indirectly, in consideration for the transfer.[60] The gesture must be entirely gratuitous and a reflection of liberal intent on the part of the donor in regard to the donee."
2) This seems like a promise to me: http://i.gyazo.com/c93468342382dcdf69fe53a0000ac19a.png


With your edit, you literally just confirmed what I said. So you're making promises but saying you'll take "donations". That's scamming people. You can't say "I'll do this TASK for you, IF you make a donation" and then once you take the donation say "Well, because I SAID it was a donation, I no longer have to do TASK for you"

That's against the law mate. If you state, ahead of time, that the donation is in exchange for a service, it's no longer considered a donation. It's considered a legitimate, taxable BTW, transaction.

So you're honestly probably evading tax laws by calling them donations aren't you. Ah, that aught to get sketchy.

Here you are, calling everyone else criminals, when you're probably committing tax evasion yourself and you're committing donation fraud.

The theme is written contract and not what emails can create! ::)

Where is the written contract?

I just posted a damn link stating that in the EU an email can be considered a written god-damn contract.

Please... read...

_{https://www.icaew.com/archive/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-alert/2018-02/case-law-court-confirms-emails-can-create-legally-binding-contracts}
https://parissmith.co.uk/blog/even-emails-text-messaging-can-constitute-legally-binding-agreement/


This is Golden Ocean Group Ltd v Sagacor Mining Industries PVT Ltd and another [2012] EWCA Civ 265, UK.

IE, by placing your name or entity "Game Protect", that you take legal responsibility for its contents.

Id be hard pressed to find a judge that wouldn't run in h4ns' favour at this point.

In the real world it works like this:

- If Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, then h4ns's brain would have substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show around July 2019 and not September 3rd after I asked him if he can lend me BTC worth 10€ the second time! :)


- If the brain of a customer substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, then it would withdraw its 7 pending enforcement cases? :)

Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who's wrong, Casino or Player?

There are tons of "Scam" threads in SBR and other places where users call casinos and bookmakers scam - they are still getting their withdrawals processed, of course.

Game Protect - please resolve this with h4ns instead of grinding water - it's impossible to grind water so just stop it ... think about it for the sake of your business, and I'm saying it without any incentives whatsoever.

I am not able to see a written contract there, please quote it ???

I am not able to see at what day and how the scam happened, please quote it ???

h4ns says that his brain substantiated September 3rd that Game Protect is a scam / show, after I asked him if he can lend me BTC worth 10€, but asking to lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam in the real world ???


h4ns says that his brain substantiated September 3rd that Game Protect is a scam / show, after I asked him if he can lend me BTC worth 10€, but the red flag says around July 2019 ???

Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who's wrong, Casino or Player?

You now owe GP 20,000 Euro.

Congrats

And he's gone on another trust feedback spam spree, this time demanding that we "tell at what day and how the alleged scam happened". I finally decided to give in to his demands, because deep down I'm a nice guy and I enjoy giving people what they want. :)

Who did I scam and how?

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Your partner in crime xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) investigated that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist! :)


Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.


Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)

Calling it a donation doesn't make it a donation, just like how calling others braindead doesn't change the fact that you are merely projecting your pathetic insecurities upon others online, where you believe you can find fulfillment in your pseudo-anonymity.

It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing! :D

Cool. Where did h4ns say that he was donating?

Happy to see he hasn't gotten any 'donations' since Oct 2.  Good work everyone.

I posted a PSA here about it with regards to his incorrect/potentially fraudulent use of the word "donation" here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198333.msg52971928#msg52971928

That should be red flag #1 for anyone doing business with GP. Anytime a company mentions the word "donation" in exchange for services they promise, run.

Besides, it's not legally enforceable. It's not a donation, it's a transaction. You wouldn't find a judge in the world that would side with GP on that one.

He says he "never promised anything" yet he literally made promises within his emails to h4ns.


Did he change his address on the donate page now lol, I see no transactions.

- Disguising payments with the term "donation" (scam #5).

Dude... for fuck's sake. Just give him back the 210€. You wasted, in combination, probably days on this bullshit. Days you could have used to deliver newspapers and gain more than the 210€ in question. But instead, you chose to waste potentially thousands of € by arguing in a non-case.

Give him back his 210€, so we can finally end this ridiculous shitshow here and move on.

edit: sorry, language. But I have no idea how to put it more friendly.

xtraelx deliberately misleads the public with claiming that this email

https://i.gyazo.com/c93468342382dcdf69fe53a0000ac19a.png

is a WRITTEN CONTRACT! ::)

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.


Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)

Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who do you think is entitled to the funds in the players account, The Casino or Player?

Twitchy, I'm starting to think he's only trolling and trying to waste everybody's time. He's not accessible to logic and he's the worst kind of weasel I've seen, here.

He knows he's at fault, but there's no way to get anything useful out of this conversation. Many have tried, as this thread proves.

I don't think he's just a troll.  I think he's a Narcissistic Sociopath.
He's been doing this for over 3 years and actively trolling any active casino thread in gambling forum, looking for people he can convince to send him money.  He might actually think he's capable of helping them and doing all the things he promises.  I also think he get's genuinely angry every time someone calls him out.  Yesterday he left neg trust to 81 people.  Imagine what a pain in the ass that must have been unless driven by rage.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Sense of entitlement. ...
Exploits others without guilt or shame. ...
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.

Wow. That's a lot. This outpaces even a very dedicated troll.
I'd say: check, check, check, check and check.
What I find most annoying is the fact that there is no way to start a meaningful discussion which could potentially lead to the solution of a problem. Usually, when there's a problem in this forum, people chime in, both sides of the story are presented and if things work out well, a solution is found*.

In this case, people try, and instead of just answering simple questions, GP keeps on harping on irrelevant details, such as certain dates in question (July? September?), made up accusations ("defamation campaign" lol), or his definitions of things (what is a contract? etc.), trying to come across like a smart ass while not contributing anything toward finding a solution. Like those annoying kids back in school which thought they knew everything better, while everybody in the room knew they don't.

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* I know that this certainly isn't always how it works, but it should serve as a good guideline for adults on how to solve a problem. Especially if the one accused has a "business" involved in the matter. Admitting being at fault here and giving back those 210€ would have saved him a ton of time and maybe even got him some reputation for doing the right thing. The question is, though, if he can even influence his own behavior if it's an actual personality disorder.

I have a theory.

GP is a scammer, first and foremost.
These threads are bad for building a con but it is still possible, especially if you try to obfuscate the truth and justify your wrongdoing.

By diverging the topic from anything substantial and by repetitively stating, "all of those who oppose me are inherently flawed," game-protect is attempting to pawn off the scam as a misconstrued situation.

GP has already laid the foundation for their scam system and thus to discard it so easily without attempting to vie for some more victims is the least logical thing to do.

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Think like a scammer and you will understand GP's mentality.

Who did I scam and how?

See? Feign ignorance, diverge conversation into split parts, and then deflect the smaller parts and hinge off meaningless trivialities.

It's all part of the manipulation of this discourse.

The thing is his foundation has been crumbling for over a year now and he seems to be failing miserably at attracting any suckers on this forum since everyone is constantly calling him out.  He's obviously broke and has received one payment to an address posted on his site in the past 2 months (BTC0.036).

He's definitely a scammer in reality, but it seems entirely possible that in his own mind he really believes that everyone else is stupid and he is very smart.  If you can't see this, you must be mentally ill.

Not a doctor, but it sure seems like he really could be a Narcissistic Sociopath or suffer from a similar personality disorder that affects all aspects of his life.  The way he manipulated get-paid into helping out Jenni by paying him is what made me start thinking this. 

These 81 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts publicly support that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019!


I asked them several times to show the written contract, but none of them was able to deliver! :D

I feel the necessity to warn the real world public about the dangerous of these 81 extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts, because if someone will be publicly false and misleading accused of having a criminal offense committed, they will support it! ::)

For example, if someone is publicly accused of having killed someone around July 2019, they will support it without having the proof and knowing at what day and how the killing happened! ::)

More like if I killed someone in the living room and they accused me of killing someone in the hallway, so I left them negative feedback.

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Yes… checks out, pretty much.

Btw, @GP, do you have any solid proof of the 81 users being braindead? I mean, this is a pretty serious accusation, and you surely don't want anyone to press charges on you because of your defamation campaign against them?  ???

Their extreme mentall ill- and or brain deadness is proven by their inability to show the written contract and say at what day and how the alleged scam happened!



Telling the truth is not defamation! ::)

LMAO, this quote from Sir Hhampuz:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

I want to merit the post above, but unfortunately, it's a trust feedback. ;D

Do you understand GP that Bitcoin is a chain of digital signatures? If you think you can get away with this scam after accepting payments with Bitcoin, pretending that it wasn't a written agreement, well... think again :)

This is not proof, this is you avoiding the confrontation.

How about we put the minor details aside for a moment and care about the content of the allegation? A few users already hinted you at the fact that there are plenty of jurisdictions which take no issue in considering such statements as some kind of implied contract. You had an agreement, didn't you?

On the other side, the way you're trying to weasel yourself out of the situation, especially the whole "there was no contract" thing, makes everyone aware that your statements cannot be trusted. I mean, think about it: you're confronted with your very own words, the foundation of everything happening thereafter between you and h4ns, and all you have to say is "well, I said it, but I have no obligation toward that"?? How shady is that?

A bit offtopic, but anyway: what I'm genuinely interested in is, what do you value your time at? Because the huge effort you put into not having to pay those back the 210€ outpaces the amount in question by far (if you don't value your time at zero, that is). How are all those posts worth not having to pay 210€??

If you just paid back h4ns, you'd have saved an enormous amount of time and you'd save some face.

But the more I think about what Twitchy wrote, yesterday, the more it appears to make sense.

I already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

Game Protect gladly invests a lot of time and money to hold a customer liable who commits several criminal offenses towards Game Protect.

Defamation

Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.0)


Extortion

If you were actually serious about this you would have just done it instead of saying you were going to do it a hundred times on a forum. Your reputation is completely trashed by your own doing. Just fuck off and get a real job as your game-protect business is finished.

Warning: Trade with extreme caution! shown at my profile and

Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.

shown above my threads and

Scammed a user out of >€200, also tries to spread rumours about dozens of people telling the whole world they are "extremely mentally ill" without a shred of evidence. Even if there was any evidence for a medical condition of most of the members he negatively tagged, this would be a private condition, and it certainly wouldn't be up to game-protect to post this sensitive information on a public forum. 

GP refuse to refund h4nz money and said the flag supporter lying about the contract between her and h4nz

Scammed a user out of >€200

GP scammed h4ns for 210 EUR. GP is a well-known scammer and a liar. See my Reference!

Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages of €210.00, on Sunday 30 June 2019, when he promised to refund that sum of money to h4ns (u=947454) for failing to provide the service promised on Tuesday 30 April 2019.

Scammed h4ns for 210€.

scammed h4ns for 210€; tells only lies and only knows how to deceive. They are not legal experts whatsoever.
Any BTC sent to this user is to be considered lost.

scammed h4ns for 210€.

Scammed h4ns.

Scammed h4ns for €210 also he can't pay for 10$ VPN. Don't using his service, if he cants pay 10$ for a VPN how he can pay for the lawyer

Scammer, not recommended to trade with game-protect
He/S has Scammed h4ns for €210. See reference

Scammed h4ns for €210.

Scammed 0.0448 BTC or €210 (at that time) from a user with the promise of giving his fake service. Do not buy his service and pay him upfront.

Scammed h4ns for €210, I wouldn't be surprised if more similar stories will soon come to light.

Scammed h4ns €210 which he promised to return by 30th June if he doesn't gets money back from Betmaster by then.

h4ns haven't got any refund from GP after GP failed to settle his case with Betmaster and get his money back.  

shown in my public feedback section is caused by this false and misleading red flag created by h4ns!

The flag is neither false nor misleading. It really doesn't matter if it seems false and misleading to you -- everybody else can see that it is neither of these things. It is the system working perfectly as intended.

Nobody owes you any further explanation of anything. You, however, owe h4ns 210 euro.

How do you know?


Correct. It only matters that h4ns committed several criminal offenses towards Game Protect based on the applicable real world laws and regulations! ;)


Yes, everyone with eyes and a functioning brain in its head can see that a written contract does not exist and therefore can not be violated! :P


Yes, the real world justice system works perfectly as intended. :)


False. Based on real world laws and regulations, if you publicly support that a written contract was violated around July 2019, resulting in damages, then you are obligated to show the alleged written contract on request! ;)  


False. I already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ :)

Hi. On behalf of h4ns I am willing to pay for the defamation damages. Please provide your lawyer's contact information so we can arrange this.

You do have one, right?

What a hilarious thread!

Added my support to the flags - it's been a while since I've had some neg-rep left for me by outed scammers....lol

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You publicly support that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019


Please show the written contract?

Please tell at what day and how the scam happened?

I am hereby declaring fees for use of my copyright, the name brand TECSHARE. This notice is to inform you of the licensing fee I will from now and perpetually be requiring to use my property "TECSHARE" in public. This fee for use shall only apply to the user known as "game-protect". Every time the user "game-protect" uses my copyright name "TECSHARE", they hereby consent to pay me $1000 in Bitcoin at current market prices, per instance of the use. This fee is to be paid upon demand. Further use of my copyright property "TECSHARE" constitutes acceptance of these terms. Usage of the copyright property "TECSHARE" more than 2 times in any 30 day period will also void all contractual consideration for "game-protect" to use the property and incur an additional fee of $5000 for every instance the copyright property is used after this threshold is breached. All rights reserved.

I totally agree.  My name is also included in this agreement.

Thank you for confirming that you are not able to show the alleged written contract and that you are not able to tell at what day and how the scam happened! :)

Thank you for agreeing to my contract. All of your considerations for this contract are now void based on your violation of this agreement. You now owe me $32,000.

I am demanding you pay the full amount to: 1Hz3HZT4v8qxtyYiRQ66UHTUSK3dKCnVMW

as per your contractual agreement at market rates. Thank you.

The below extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts persist to abuse the trust system with knowingly supporting the incorrect fact-statement that Game Protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, around July 2019, but are not able to show the alleged written contract!

And your answer is to leave a negative feedback to people suporting flags against you. Usually what people do when they're out of arguments.
Look like we're not alone to be "extremely mentally ill and or brain dead", better to look at your mirror. Maybe you can red tag yourself too?

$38,000 now. You do abide by your agreements don't you? Also, who is "The Parmasist"? Is he like a superhero with the powerful smell of Parmesan cheese? I am demanding immediate payment for your licensing fees and penalties. I have the contract right here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183189.msg53029231#msg53029231).

Don't forget to open up a flag against him for not honoring the contract.
Since game-protect is just a scammer and takes peoples money you will probably never collect but it's always good to make sure that everyone knows they are a scammer.
Just in case they missed all the other evidence.

-Dave

Who did I scam and how?

Let me refresh your memory. Again. You defamed me by writing lies on my trust page and caused me damage, I requested $40,000 compensation but you have ignored me therefore you scammed me.

GP's imaginary friend from mental institution. Doctor told GP that it is ok to have one.

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Please show the written contract?

There is no other way to describe your behavior. What do you hope to gain here by continuing this absurd ritual? Give it up and move on.

According to theymos, if they are not able to show the written contract, then they will be removed from the DT list! :)

And so, what?
Your reputation here is irretrievably damaged by your own actions, irrespective of who is on DT, or this flag.
Move on.

They have to be removed from the DT list! :)


How and by what own actions?

What do you hope to gain here by continuing this absurd ritual?

Please describe with content the alleged absurd ritual?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254;sa=showPosts

No, because we have already explained to you that the email exchange you had with h4ns:

1. Counted as a written contract in the eyes of the law (see previous posts about EU emails counting as contracts, etc).
2. Didn't include the word "donation" ~ and even if it did, it still would be unlawful ~

As such, we have demonstrated a written contract in effect (regardless if signatures were provided or not) and I'm rather certain Theymos would be more than satisfied with this.

Just because you don't want to believe the facts and you don't believe the law applies to you, doesn't mean everyone else has to play around your BS.

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.


Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)

See point #2 on my previous post.

The one who publicly commits several criminal offenses and causes an estimated damage of over 100,000€ to Game Protect while I have his identity obviously lost its sense of reality! :D

Substantiating that Game Protect is a show / scam because it asked you to lend BTC worth 10€ furthermore confirms it!

TITS or GTFO

This email is not a written contract! ::)

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.


Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)

You're a lying little turd.  Case closed bitch.

I wish people would just ignore you at this point.

>or you will get the 210€ back 30 June 2019.

Something's not right here...

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Oh, and just saying that you don't make contracts will  not get you out of one. You are playing a game of semantics.

Saying that I do not make contracts will not get me into one! :D


But you are right, you can not get out of non-existing written contracts, because you are not in! :D

I think you can make more money as a clown than spamming your signature! ::)

I've already explained it to you: the contract doesn't have to be legally binding to be acceptable evidence for the purposes of this forum. To us, it is a written contract that was violated. We don't care about what it is to you. Now that you've scammed get-paid of the whole jennirae case, there should be no doubt in anybody's mind that you are indeed a scammer, if there somehow was before.

Thank you for confirming that a written contract does not exist and is only a hallucination by extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts! :D

So email = binding contract (written) in variety of cases. If you have an agreement and you have your names on the bottom of the email, this email acts as a binding contract which = a written contract. If you have noted somewhere in the email that the separate written contract will be issued to confirm any agreement, then the email won't have the same weigh as a binding (written) contract.
Some food for thought.


Source > https://www.lplegal.com/content/when-email-becomes-binding-contract

@ extremely mentally ill and or brain dead

US laws are not applicable! ::)

Despite of this, your brain is not able to understand the law you quoted! ::)

For example, it says sometimes and not that emails are a legally binding agreement by default! ::)

Despite of this, it depends on the circumstances if an email can be considered as a legally binding agreement! ::)

For example, Game Protect does not make contracts by default and therefore it is by default excluded that a written contract was made! :P

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.


Real world legal aspects: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation) Donations are given without return consideration.


Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! ::)

You state you will give back the money, but you didn't . And It's written, fact. You lied that you will give the money back, fact. Lying your customers = you should not be trusted.
Broke a written agreement = written contract.
Misleading the customer to donate money = scam.
Totally busted - throwing sh!t on the others who pointed out the facts.

This is not a courtroom it's just a simple forum, everyone on the DT has its own way to interpret the situation, that is why we are soon many to balance around common sense.
You just crossed the ethical line and everyone just saw that.

What you think you gonna achieve by insulting the others? Nor respect for sure. You lost mine long ago, but I don't have you on my ignore list.

@ extremely mentally ill and or brain dead

You are either sleeping or are too stupid to read text, but the BTC worth 210 were given back long time ago:

h4ns to GP 100,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 99,790€ :)

Great stuff, finally getting somewhere here - so as you are admitting you owe the user €210 then you should pay that amount to him, once paid you will have your case for defamation of character as you will of fulfilled your end of the bargain and be in a far greater legal position to move forwards with your case against the user.

see some progress in this thread at last, pay the man what you owe - the sue him for what you believe he owes you. This isn't a used car lot where you get a discount of the total of the new car by bringing in an old banger for part exchange to discount the price.

@ extremely mentally ill and or brain dead

If you would have the slightest idea about legal things you would not spam your Fortunejack signature for cents! :D

legal things? not a term that any lawyer/solicitor/barrister I have ever spoken to has used.

but as above you have admitted to owing €210 to OP and you are claiming that OP owes you damages, should you pay OP then you will be well within your rights to sue OP if after payment he continues with your claimed defamation of character.

However you have not shown payment, OP has not posted that you have paid him either. Call me mentally ill if you wish, or brain dead - but as I am typing right now It is proof my brain isn't dead.

I will tell you a secret sweet cheeks, just because you do not agree with someone it does not make them mentally ill, in the same vein just because you think you are right it does not make it true.

BTW - if those pictures in investigations are actually true, I would say if we ever met it would only take me about 12 pints of beer to agree to tongue punch your fart box - looks wise you ain't that bad, mentality - well you are the one who needs the mental asylum

I do not think I am right, I know that I am right! :)

That is the huge difference between Game Protect and extremely mentally ill and or brain dead nonsense shit posters like you! :D

Yet you are the least trusted member (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect) out of 2,706,088 as of today users of this forum....but maybe, as an old wise man I know uses to say, the important thing is to be convinced of what we say  ::)

The trust of who did I breach and how?

How is brain wash nonsense shit related to the real world online gambling consumer protection entity Game Protect?

Game Protect acts based on real world laws and regulations and not based on brain wash nonsense shit! :D

I do not think I am right, I know that I am right! :)
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You could tell me that its raining, I wouldn't believe you.. even if I was getting wet I would assume you were just pissing up my back.

why does it not enter into your head that the majority of the forum is right and you are wrong? do you have issues admitting fault?

And the real world doesn't trust you! As simple as that.
Evidence is your trust rating being the worst amongst more 2 million real world persons using this forum.

And yet... that is all you spew in pretty much each and every post you make on this site. "Nonsense shit".

Your silly semantic games and "fingers in ears"-type denial of reality don't make you right... and you know it. But no doubt, you'll wait a few more days... give everyone another round of red trust for being "brain dead", claim you "don't make contracts"... and "only accept donations"... and that you "refunded h4ns" by ever so graciously deducting that 210 euro from the amount you're magically claiming as damages in your made up little defamation fantasy...

Here's some truth for you... that isn't a refund. It isn't even close to be being refund. Since you're so fond of definitions:


You didn't give it back or repay it... therefore... NO REFUND has been made. His claim is good... as is the flag.

So, stop making yourself look like a twat with all your stupid games and arguments and just give him his 210 euros like you promised you would in the email you wrote to him (which by the way... in spite of your protestations otherwise IS classified as a written agreement).

Don't bother repeating all your "nonsense shit" about contracts and donations and refunds... we've all seen it... multiple times... and it's still just as incorrect as the first time you posted it.

Over 500 real world online casino claimants trust us and submitted its claims to Game Protect! :)

Some of them already received its claim with our assistance. Without our assistance they would not have seen a penny!

That is the real world truth, whether a bunch of extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts like it or not! :D

prove it please - your words mean the grand total of fuck all here

...and you beg h4ns for 10 euro  ...liar.

Are you an online casino victim and

"Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Check their trust page to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution."

shown above all my threads and "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" shown at my public profile mislead you to not engage Game Protect?

Please inform Game Protect as legal action will start soon?

Add me to the case please.

Seeing as you can’t refund €210 and come across as one of those special kind of retards who couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse even with $100k in your pocket I am 100% sure nothing will happen

By all means, same with TMAN, if you need my information for the suit, feel free to get in touch.

But I should clarify, IF there is a suit lodged against myself in a legal manner (not your BS blackmail), expect a counter-suit for loss of income for the more than 10+ negative trust accusations that were actually unfounded (including child harm accusations). These trust accusations were sent to my profile purely on the basis of retaliation for even remotely questioning the validity of your service.

I have documented all of the negative reputation you have sent me (with screenshots) since you went and removed most of them.

See, criticizing the validity of a service due to natural flaws, your professionalism, etc: It's not defamation.
Saying someone abuses children without any shred of evidence is defamation.

This isn't any of my business but game-protect, you are wrong.  The legal definition of a gift is:

"A gift is the voluntary transfer of property or funds to another without receiving anything of value in return and without conditions attached while both the giver and the recipient."

https://definitions.uslegal.com/g/gifts/

If you are demanding a gift in exchange for a service, it is not a gift.  It would be considered payment and that is a consideration, thus the contract is valid.  The courts would see through this scheme right away.  Furthermore, the e-mail is legally binging.  No legitimate court would find otherwise. 

In the college admission scandal a few months ago, the parents 'donated a gift' to the coaches charities in exchange for having their students admitted into their college.  How did that turn out for them?

And before you argue that this is the US definition instead of the UK, this is a basic principle of Roman Law, from which both English and US Laws are derived from.  That is why the legal systems are similar across the West and the law in the UK (in this case) is the same as the law in the US.

P.S. You aren't as smart as you think you are.

I asked the tax office if professional internet sports bettors have to pay incomre tax.

Few weeks later the tax investigation contacted me and asks for the personal details of h4ns.

Does not look like it was a good idea to publicly defame Game Protect! :D

Well , it wasn't a good idea for you to scam h4ns aswell.
H4ns you should really consider taking legal actions against game-protect.