Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

[TwitchySeal]

Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who's wrong, Casino or Player?

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[TwitchySeal]

Game-Protect is a scammer!

ps. I just want to get negative feedback from Game-Protect. It seems like this is something every conscientious member of this forum should have.

This thread is the most entertaining thread I have read in this forum so far. (I am newbie so forgive me, havent seen everything)
I have to say its almost like these "real world" reality shows which you choose to watch just too see how stupid can someone be. (Same thing why I come back here time by time)

You now owe GP 20,000 Euro.

Congrats

[Foxpup]

And he's gone on another trust feedback spam spree, this time demanding that we "tell at what day and how the alleged scam happened". I finally decided to give in to his demands, because deep down I'm a nice guy and I enjoy giving people what they want.

[game-protect]

Game-Protect is a scammer!

Who did I scam and how?

[game-protect]

@ 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, asphyxiate, Astargath, Avirunes, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

Your partner in crime xtraelv investigated that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist!

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

[actmyname]

Calling it a donation doesn't make it a donation, just like how calling others braindead doesn't change the fact that you are merely projecting your pathetic insecurities upon others online, where you believe you can find fulfillment in your pseudo-anonymity.

[game-protect]

Calling it a donation doesn't make it a donation,

It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing!

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

[actmyname]

Cool. Where did h4ns say that he was donating?

[TwitchySeal]

Calling it a donation doesn't make it a donation,

It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing!

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Happy to see he hasn't gotten any 'donations' since Oct 2.  Good work everyone.

[xtraelv]

@ 1982dre, actmyname, addarmstrong, alexrossi, asphyxiate, Astargath, Avirunes, BigBoy89, bL4nkcode, bob123, bones261, cabalism, Captain Corporate, CASIO, ChiBitCTy, crwth, CryptopreneurBrainboss, DaveF, DiamondCardz, DireWolfM14, DreamerBT, eckmar, efialtis, examplens, Foxpup, Hakorede, HCP, Hhampuz, hopenotlate, iasenko, iluvbitcoins, Initscri, jimmyhate, JSRAW, Kalemder, Kevinn22, kruglikov, LeGaulois, LeonGhibli, LFC_Bitcoin, lighpulsar07, Lutpin, marlboroza, mindrust, Mirae, mocacinno, morvillz7z, mosprognoz, mu_enrico, NeuroticFish, nutildah, o_e_l_e_o, Pamoldar, pandukelana2712, PassThePopcorn, passwordnow, RHavar, rhomelmabini, robelneo, Rodeo02, Royse777, ScamViruS, sheenshane, Slow death,  squatz1, stompix, subSTRATA, suchmoon, SyGambler, TECSHARE, The Parmasist, TheUltraElite, TMAN, TwitchySeal, whitcher_sense, WinRateCasino, yahoo62278, yazher, yogg, Zwei

Your partner in crime xtraelv investigated that a legally binding agreement, let alone a written contract, does not exist!

1) UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

An offer;
Acceptance of the offer;
Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/

Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make any contracts.

Deliberately misleading. I already posted a full rebuttal to your denials.

Game Protect does not make any contracts. Contracts are only made with the enforcement foundation.

This is where you are wrong.

You deceived the h4ns by stating that he would get a refund by 30 June 2019.

Whether you believe this is a contract is irrelevant.

h4ns believed he was making a contract with you and as a result of the promise made by you transferred the funds.

Whether you like it or not - you made a contract with h4ns to send the 210 euro to the foundation.

Whether you get the 210 euro back from the foundation is irrelevant. You owe h4ns 210 euro.

How does Game Protect make money? What are the numbers?
The site is barely making enough money to cover expenses, with the monthly profit being about 300/month. The sites makes money from:

– Affiliate commissions.

– Monthly/yearly contributions.

– Individual orders for investigation and assistance.

How big is your team? What do they do and what are their backgrounds?
The number of participants varies depending on the cases and whether it includes lawyers, private investigators and IT experts.

I personally have good knowledge with regards to civil laws, criminal laws and private investigations.

Source: https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20191104234928/https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/

[Initscri]

~snip

I posted a PSA here about it with regards to his incorrect/potentially fraudulent use of the word "donation" here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198333.msg52971928#msg52971928

That should be red flag #1 for anyone doing business with GP. Anytime a company mentions the word "donation" in exchange for services they promise, run.

Besides, it's not legally enforceable. It's not a donation, it's a transaction. You wouldn't find a judge in the world that would side with GP on that one.

He says he "never promised anything" yet he literally made promises within his emails to h4ns.

Calling it a donation doesn't make it a donation,

It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing!

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Happy to see he hasn't gotten any 'donations' since Oct 2.  Good work everyone.

Did he change his address on the donate page now lol, I see no transactions.

[mu_enrico]

at what day and how the scam happened?

Allow me to explain the day when the scam happened and your modus operandi.

On 30/04/2019, you lured h4ns to pay 210 EUR and to participate in your extortion attempt. Ignore the foundation bullshit, and clearly, your strategies were about extortions via article and email (scam #1).

Game Protect via email:

So first they could ignore, but later decide to get rid of the article.

Too bad, on 30/06/2019, your extortion efforts were not producing any results.

You then asked for more time, and hopefully, they (Betmaster.com) would decide to get rid of the article, bribe you, and you then can give some portion to h4ns.

However, h4ns then realized he was being suckered and decided to post here.

-Fin-

Hmm.. let's see bitcasino.io and sportsbet.io are your next targets, aren't they?

Note (edit):
- Article about betmaster was never produced (scam #2);
- There is no guarantee that the extortion money will be sent to GP clients; and
- h4ns never received the 210 EUR back (scam #3).

- h4ns never received the 450 EUR (lie #4).

- Disguising payments with the term "donation" (scam #5).

[allyouracid]

Game Protect does not make any contracts.

Dude... for fuck's sake. Just give him back the 210€. You wasted, in combination, probably days on this bullshit. Days you could have used to deliver newspapers and gain more than the 210€ in question. But instead, you chose to waste potentially thousands of € by arguing in a non-case.

Give him back his 210€, so we can finally end this ridiculous shitshow here and move on.

edit: sorry, language. But I have no idea how to put it more friendly.

[game-protect]

xtraelx deliberately misleads the public with claiming that this email



is a WRITTEN CONTRACT!

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);

Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.

4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract

Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such!

[TwitchySeal]

Lets say a player gets frustrated with a casino for some reason and calls them a scam on a forum. (happens all the time)

Do you think the Casino has the right to just take the players money from their account, cancel any withdraws and just keep it and tell the player the funds were being deducted from $10,000 that the player now owes the Casino?

What would you say to a Casino that did this?

Who do you think is entitled to the funds in the players account, The Casino or Player?

[allyouracid]

Twitchy, I'm starting to think he's only trolling and trying to waste everybody's time. He's not accessible to logic and he's the worst kind of weasel I've seen, here.

He knows he's at fault, but there's no way to get anything useful out of this conversation. Many have tried, as this thread proves.

[TwitchySeal]

Twitchy, I'm starting to think he's only trolling and trying to waste everybody's time. He's not accessible to logic and he's the worst kind of weasel I've seen, here.

He knows he's at fault, but there's no way to get anything useful out of this conversation. Many have tried, as this thread proves.

I don't think he's just a troll.  I think he's a Narcissistic Sociopath.
He's been doing this for over 3 years and actively trolling any active casino thread in gambling forum, looking for people he can convince to send him money.  He might actually think he's capable of helping them and doing all the things he promises.  I also think he get's genuinely angry every time someone calls him out.  Yesterday he left neg trust to 81 people.  Imagine what a pain in the ass that must have been unless driven by rage.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Sense of entitlement. ...
Exploits others without guilt or shame. ...
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.

[allyouracid]

I don't think he's just a troll.  I think he's a Narcissistic Sociopath.
He's been doing this for over 3 years and actively trolling any active casino thread in gambling forum, looking for people he can convince to send him money.  He might actually think he's capable of helping them and doing all the things he promises.  I also think he get's genuinely angry every time someone calls him out.  Yesterday he left neg trust to 81 people.  Imagine what a pain in the ass that must have been unless driven by rage.

Wow. That's a lot. This outpaces even a very dedicated troll.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder

I'd say: check, check, check, check and check.
What I find most annoying is the fact that there is no way to start a meaningful discussion which could potentially lead to the solution of a problem. Usually, when there's a problem in this forum, people chime in, both sides of the story are presented and if things work out well, a solution is found*.

In this case, people try, and instead of just answering simple questions, GP keeps on harping on irrelevant details, such as certain dates in question (July? September?), made up accusations ("defamation campaign" lol), or his definitions of things (what is a contract? etc.), trying to come across like a smart ass while not contributing anything toward finding a solution. Like those annoying kids back in school which thought they knew everything better, while everybody in the room knew they don't.

* I know that this certainly isn't always how it works, but it should serve as a good guideline for adults on how to solve a problem. Especially if the one accused has a "business" involved in the matter. Admitting being at fault here and giving back those 210€ would have saved him a ton of time and maybe even got him some reputation for doing the right thing. The question is, though, if he can even influence his own behavior if it's an actual personality disorder.

[actmyname]

I don't think he's just a troll.

I have a theory.

GP is a scammer, first and foremost.
These threads are bad for building a con but it is still possible, especially if you try to obfuscate the truth and justify your wrongdoing.

By diverging the topic from anything substantial and by repetitively stating, "all of those who oppose me are inherently flawed," game-protect is attempting to pawn off the scam as a misconstrued situation.

GP has already laid the foundation for their scam system and thus to discard it so easily without attempting to vie for some more victims is the least logical thing to do.Think like a scammer and you will understand GP's mentality.

[game-protect]

GP is a scammer, first and foremost.

Who did I scam and how?